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re tracing license plates of bdi cagers curtis jackson cjackson adobe com wrote the driver had looked over at me casually a couple of times i know he knew i was there oh okay then in that case it was attemped vehicular manslaughter he definitely wanted to kill you all cagers want to kill bikers that s the only explanation that i can think of hesh
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for sale husqvarna te for sale model husqvarna te enduro model year engine cc four stroke extras ignition for easy starting suspension by aftershock custom carbon fiber kevlar skid plate quick steering geometry stock epa legal and quiet exhaust system bark busters and hand guards motion pro clutch cable price contact denis concordel e mail denis apldbio com mabell work home i am selling my trusty husky hopefully to buy a husaberg this is a very good dirt bike and has been maintained perfectly i never had any problems with it it s a four stroke valves liquid cooled engine it is heavier than a stroke but still lighter than a honda xr and has a lot better suspension ohlins shock husky fork than the xr for the casual or non competitive rider the engine is much better than any two stroke you can easily lug up hills and blast through trails with minimum gear changes the ignition and the carefully tuned carburation makes this bike very easy to start starts of first kick when cold or hot there is a custom made carbon kevlar light pound wrap around skid plate to protect the engine cases and the water pump the steering angle has been reduced by degree to increase steering quickness this with the suspension tune up by phil douglas of aftershock multiple time isde rider gives it a better ride than most bike plush suspension responsive steering with no head shake so if it is such a good bike why sell it gee i want to buy a husaberg which just a husky but pounds lighter and a tad more
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thanks for the speeding ticket advice i d like to thank everyone who took the time to respond to my post about fighting my ticket many of you wrote to say that you have successfully fought and won your case in court others lost due to the cop outright lying to the judge about the circumstances surrounding your ticket while one fellow lost because the judge just didn t appear to be in the mood for such foolishness several of you suggested that i obtain a book called fight your ticket the general theme from those who said go for it was to be prepared i should do as much research as possible go back and review the scene transcribe what happened to tape or paper use any witnesses that may have been around have a list of questions to ask the cop and or the judge and to be positive and assertive i am innocent until proven guilty gulp a few people suggested trying to get my court date changed as this might trip up the arresting officer he may not show up if the date is on his day off or if he feels knows that he doesn t have a chance to win against you one individual stated that an officer could be an expert witness and if he says i was speeding then by damn i was speeding another says that i must have been paced or clocked with a radar gun lots of good suggestions and ideas from you all i ll let you know what happens after the big day peter d nesbitt air traffic controller pnesbitt mcimail com oakland bay tracon
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re mail order if you get good service from a shop or they regularly have merchandise in stock you need or they have a knowledgable and or friendly sales staff or if for whatever other reason you would like to do business with them which will in the aggrigate keep them in business and available to fill your future needs but they charge more for an item than another store you can usually purchase the item in the store of your choice and pay the lowest legitimate price being offered elsewhere sounds pretty lame to me let me see if i understand now your friends charge you extra just how much do you usually have to pay for a little friendliness seems like you re being serviced by some friendly sales people robert emmons never hesitate to sacrifice clarity calcshop inc and maintainability to save precious remmons holonet net picoseconds during program execution
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bmw r rally bbbbbbbb mm mm ww ww bb bb mm m m mm ww ww b b mm m m mm ww w ww bbbbbbbb mm m m mm ww w w ww bb bb mm m mm ww w w ww bb bb mm mm ww w w ww bbbbbbbb mm mm ww ww press release to all bmw riders subject rally time is here from bmw club of northern california bmw er rally may u s memorial day weekend san francisco bay area th annual bmw er rally sponsored by the bmw club of northern califronia will be held at the quincy california fairgrounds from may included in the pre registration fee at gate are star camping field events and trophies two dinners rally pin door prizes poker run vendor displays fun run english trials and live music playing throughout the weekend plus extras like hot showers tours a concourse d elegance and more this is first time in the er rally s year history that the event is being held in quincy and according to pat gardner rally chairman the er rally s continuing growth and the need for a larger and more complete facility led us to quincy plus we can get there on either of our two most favrite highways highway which goes through the feather river canyon or up from the south via the northernmost part of the gold country s highway day passes will not be available and non bmw rider must be a pre registered guest of a bmw rider the quincy fairgrounds is located on california state highway two miles south of downtown quincy for pre registration forms and additional information write doug hubbard bmw club of northern california norman court fremont ca or telephone us additional notes this is a not for profit event and riders do get their monies worth whether you ve ever attended a rally before or not this is the one to make the only problem has been that there are so many activities that attendees have to choose one over another quincy is a beautiful campground lots of grass and little dust for folks who have been to previous er rallies at mariposa quincy has lots of space all of it flat so room is not a problem there are buildings and such available if there is a change in the weather also the people of quincy are going all out to welcome us registration will begin on thursday of course there are always early arrivals who will show up monday or tuesday the registration fee pays for camping thursday through monday days there will be a tour friday with the main events beginning saturday sunday evening will be the awards ceremony for members of the various clubs club awards will be based on registration declaration of affilitation there will of course be the usual awards for oldest male and female rider betting needed to win and youngest rider they get cheater permits at and greatest distance one up two up and all the usual things
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re its still cold but in article apr linus mitre org cookson mbunix mitre org cookson writes i tend to keep my bedroom window open during the winter and have woken up to find frost on my bedspread but i still get cold below about f usually on the part that sticks out of the bottom of my helmet maybe it s time to get a noj quiet rider cool i conjure up this image of bd in doonesbury so dean how long have you been sleeping with your helmet on rich bemben dod rbemben timewarp prime com triumph bonneville x fear not the evil men do in the name of evil but heaven protect us from the evil men do in the name of good
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re recommendation on duc i have a line on a ducati gts model with k on the clock runs very well paint is the bronze brown orange faded out leaks a bit of oil and pops out of st with hard accel the shop will fix trans and oil leak they sold the bike to the and only owner they want and i am thinking more like k any opinions out there please email me thanks it would be a nice stable mate to the beemer then i ll get a jap bike and call myself axis motors tuba irwin i honk therefore i am computrac richardson tx irwin cmptrc lonestar org dod r
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safe driving prcatices in article apr news columbia edu rdc cunixf cc columbia edu robert d castro writes in article rbpc d n netcom com rbp netcom com bob pasker writes cjackson adobe com curtis jackson writes my solution is never to ride next to a car the only thing between you and them is space keep as much as possible take this one step further never dilly dally in that rear of either side of a cage when you pass make it as positive as possible and if you can t pass fully at least make sure that if you attempt it you can make the driver aware of you by at least getting into his area of vision this also applies to merging into another lane after making a pass do it as positively as possible and what i try to do is look in the rear view and then over my shoulder and after i ve done that accelerate into the lane so that you have a speed cushion should you have missed seeing a potential bdi that s trying to do the same thing as you or worse ie he may have been behind you saw you made the pass successfully but you aren t going fast enough to suite him so he tries to go around you on the right ride with four eyes rich rich bemben dod rbemben timewarp prime com triumph bonneville x fear not the evil men do in the name of evil but heaven protect us from the evil men do in the name of good
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re april was re faq what is the dod in article hpfcso fc hp com jld hpfcso fc hp com jeff deeney writes in rec motorcycles viking iastate edu dan sorenson writes last year i believe it was jeff deeney posted what i ve since come to recognize as the ultimate april fools posting ever it wasn t particularly nice of him as several people were quite fooled and very worried about him but i can t fault the effectiveness based on numerous inputs most of them unprintable i deemed it time for a kinder gentler april not that i didn t have something really sick and twisted ready to post perhaps next year personally i think jeffy poo was still smarting more from the third degree burns he suffered after april st last year rather than the supposed burns that he suffered in the joke granted i was one of those people that were taken in by it and i was certainly concerned and then pissed at him for pulling such a thing which i made known to him but then again for an april fool joke i would also go on record as saying that it was the best orchestrated one i ve ever seen and it certainly sucked a lot of people into believing it sick twisted who in this group could ever be accused of such a thing i tip my twisted lid to thee jeffy rich bemben dod rbemben timewarp prime com triumph bonneville x fear not the evil men do in the name of evil but heaven protect us from the evil men do in the name of good
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observation re helmets grf dropped my shoei rf off the seat of my bike while trying to rock it onto it s centerstand chipped the heck out of the paint on it so i cheerfully spent on a bottle of testor s model paint and repainted the scratches and chips for minutes then while it was drying i realized that i was out of smokes and that my cage is not currently running so i had to take my bike down to the store not wanting to mess up my paint job i said well heck i can just use my old helmet this is your standard el cheapie openface i didn t notice a big difference when i switched to the shoei but switching back was really bad doesn t fit worth a damn too wide in the sides too short front to back with a faceplate it s still bloody windy with the shoei i normally ignore the face shield until i get up to about ish with this one taxiing to the end of the driveway was too smegging much wind the question for the day is re passenger helmets if you don t know for certain who s gonna ride with you like say you meet them at a church meeting yeah that s the ticket what are some guidelines should i just pick up another shoei in my size to have a backup helmet xl or should i maybe get an inexpensive one of a smaller size to accomodate my likely passenger
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re ggrrrrrr cages double parking motorcycles pisses me off in article castle ed ac uk wbg festival ed ac uk w geake writes the banana one isn t imho ultra sticky labels printed with your favourite curse are good even our local hospitals use them instead of wheel clamps putting one about a size on each window of the cage so what s your local hospital s favorite curse blaine gardner evans sutherland bgardner dsd es com
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flashing anyone hello all on my bike i have hazard lights both front and back turn signals flash since i live in nj and commute to nyc there are a number of tolls one must pay on route just before arriving at a toll booth i switch the hazards on i do thisto warn other motorists that i will be taking longer than the seconds to make the transaction taking gloves off getting money out of coin changer pocket making transaction putting gloves back on takes a little more time than the average cager takes to make the same transaction of paying the toll i also notice that when i do this cagers tend to get the message and usually go to another booth my question is this a good bad thing to do any others tend to do the same just curious o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o rob castro email rdc cunixf cc columbia edu live for today kz ltd phone for today you live dod nyc new york new york usa rc tm
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re stolen aarghhhh in article apr microunity com ericm microunity com eric murray writes watch out often when some scumbag steals the cover that means that they were or are looking to steal the bike in my case i had a faded cover stolen off a bmw r rs that was stashed in an apartment carport and not visible from the street they evidently decided the beemer wasn t worth stealing but did try the next night to steal a honda hurricane parked in the next apartment building a neighbor heard them wheeling it out and called the cops i know this is just setting myself up but this is actually one of the things that is really good about bmw bikes from all accounts i ve heard practically no one steals bmws probably it is similar for moto guzzis and other relative exotics since there isn t a large demand for parts and the bike would be much easier to track down it seems that the most stolen bikes are harleys and cc jap sport bikes jonathan e polito internet jpolito encore com encore computer corp kildaire farm rd cary nc usa voice fax
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re bikes with big dogs in article apr galaxy gov bc ca bclarke galaxy gov bc ca writes in article apr cua edu wendel cua edu writes has anyone ever heard of a rider giving a big dog such as a great dane a ride on the back of his bike my dog would love it if i could ever make it work post of the month actually i ve seen riders carting around a pet dog in a sidecar a great dane on the back though sounds a bit hairy to me yeah i m sure that our lab would love a ride he s the type that sticks his head out car windows but i didn t think that he would enjoy being bungee corded to the gas tank and lbs or squirming beast is a bit much for a backpack ok who s done it i ve bike like jody levine dod kv got a you can if you pf jody p levine hydro on ca ride it toronto ontario canada
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v max handling request hello there ican anyone who has handson experience on riding the yamaha v max pls kindly comment on its handling
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re motorcycle detailing tip in article apr bnr ca mbeaving bnr ca writes don t you just hate when the speedo and tach on your bike start to cloud over from all that nasty sunshine the detailing tip of the week is to use rubbing compound moisten a rag apply some rubbing compound and work into the translucent previously transparent material after a few minutes of working on the plastic face the dial or plastic face will be clear once more will not work for glass a couple of other tips make a habit of parking the bike so that instruments are facing away from the sun meguiar s mirror glaze plastic polish plastic cleaner cue canned product plug roise sumax seattleu edu linda roise writes ok for a novice question is there anything that will clean a face shield and also remove abrasions so that one can see through it better what you want are meguiar s mirror glaze plastic polish and plastic cleaner they are very mild abrasives meant to remove scratches from plastic for fine scratches just use the polish for bigger ones start with the cleaner and finish with the polish the stuff is bucks per bottle at most auto or motorcycle parts stores don t choke over the price too much since both bottles will probably last you years the stuff works great on plastic watch crystals and compact discs too blaine gardner evans sutherland bgardner dsd es com
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hard copy hot pursuit yo did anybody see this run of hard copy i guy on a katana got pulled over by the police i guess for speeding or something but just as the cop was about to step out of the car the dude punches it down an interstate in georgia ang then the cop gives chase now this was an interesting episode because it was all videotaped everything from the dramatic takeoff and mph chase to the sidestreet battle at about mph what happened at the end the guy who is being relentless chased down box the cage with the disco lights slows a couple of times to taunt the cop after blowing a few stop signs and making car jump to the side he goes up a dead end street the kat although not the latest machine is still a high performance machine and he slams on the brakes of couse we all know that cages especially the ones with the disco lights can t stop as fast as our high performance machines so what happens the cage plows into the kat luckily for this dude he was wearing a helmet and was not hurt but dude how crazy can you get yeah we ve all went out and played cat and mouse with our friends but with a cop how crazy can you get it took just one look at a zx who tried this crap to convince me not to try any shit like that although the dude collided with a car head on at mph the kawasaki team colors still looked good just a few scratches like no front end inch long engine and other minor scratches if you guys are out there please slow it down i not being an advocate for the cages especially the ones that make that annoying ass noises but just think the next time you punched it whether you have an all mighty zx or a i can do it ninja just remember a kid could step out at any time peace ride kinda safe warren have suzuki will travel wcd uxa cso uiuc edu what s the big deal about riding one of these i m only going annie robotech
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re wanted advice on cb custom purchase in article apr linus mitre org cookson mbunix mitre org cookson writes in article apr acs ucalgary ca parr acs ucalgary ca charles parr writes my mechanic once commented that the dual range transmission was pure junk one mans opinion i had a friend in pittsburgh who had a cb c with the dual range tranny on it he usually only used the economy range to get an overdrive sixth gear out of it he had miles on it when it was stolen it was recovered shortly after that repaired and for all i know it s still going strong the cb c was a shaft driven overbore version of the cb and was made for exactly one year yep head and base gaskets are very expensive helluva bike a data point chris behanna dod h d fxwg wide glide jubilee s red lady behanna syl nj nec com cb t baby bike disclaimer now why would nec zx needs a name agree with any of this anyway i was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs
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re tangentially re live free but quietly or die in article apr rd hydro on ca jlevine rd hydro on ca jody levine writes impertinent stuff deleted am i showing my canadian university ness here of does anyone else know what i m talking about i ve bike like jody levine dod kv got a you can if you pf jody p levine hydro on ca ride it toronto ontario canada there you go again you edu breath poser university ness indeed leave that stuff to us professionals henry prange biker professional edu breath physiology iu sch med blgtn dod bmwmoa gsi ride r gs rx conv cage explorer cage the unifying trait of our species is the relentless pursuit of folly hypocrisy is the only national religion of this country
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re boom hubcap attack in article speedy engr latech edu speedy engr latech edu speedy mercer writes i was attacked by a rabid hubcap once i was going to work on a yamaha twin a k a the vibrating tank when i heard a wierd noise off to my left i caught a glimpse of something silver headed for my left foot and jerked it up about a nanosecond before my bike was hit hard in the left side when i went to put my foot back on the peg i found that it was not there i pulled into the nearest parking lot and discovered that i had been hit by a wire wheel type hubcap from a large cage this hubcap weighed about pounds the impact had bent the left peg flat against the frame and tweeked the shifter in the process had i not heard the approaching cap i feel certian that i would be sans a portion of my left foot anyone else had this sort of experience not with a hub cap but one of those lumber yard delivery trucks made life interesting when he hit a dip in the road and several sheets of sheetrock and a dozen gallon cans of spackle came off at mph it got real interesting for about seconds or so had to use a wood mallet to get all the dried spackle off me the helmet and the bike when i got home thanks to the bob tail kenworth between me and the lumber truck i had a path to drive through he made with his tires and threw up the corresponding monsoon from those tires as he ran over what ever cans of spackle didn t burst in impact a car in front of me in the right lane hit her brakes did a and nailed a bridge abutment half way through the second the messiest time was in san diego in was on my way back to the apartment in ocean beach on my sportster and had just picked up a shake burger n fries from jack in the box and stuffed em in my foul weather jacket when the milk shake opened up on nimitz blvd at mph nothing like the smell of vanilla milk shake cooking on the engine as it runs down your groin and legs and people waiting in back of you to make the same left turn you are there are only two types of ships in the navy submarines and targets xs lh dod next raise richard pierson e vnet internet fist iscp bellcore com uunet uunet bcr fist include std disclaimer my opinions are my own i don t shop in malls i buy my jeans jackets and ammo in the same store
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re boom hubcap attack in a previous article speedy engr latech edu speedy mercer says i was attacked by a rabid hubcap once i was going to work on a yamaha twin a k a the vibrating tank when i heard a wierd noise off to my left i caught a glimpse of something silver headed for my left foot and jerked it up about a nanosecond before my bike was hit hard in the left side when i went to put my foot back on the peg i found that it was not there i pulled into the nearest parking lot and discovered that i had been hit by a wire wheel type hubcap from a large cage this hubcap weighed about pounds the impact had bent the left peg flat against the frame and tweeked the shifter in the process had i not heard the approaching cap i feel certian that i would be sans a portion of my left foot hmmmm i wondered where that hubcap went dod darkman the significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them albert einstein the eternal champion
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re v max handling request in a previous article ba ntuvax ntu ac sg says hello there ican anyone who has handson experience on riding the yamaha v max pls kindly comment on its handling you re kidding right this is flame bait in the extreme v max handling har har har har dod darkman the significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them albert einstein the eternal champion
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contact person for boots would anyone out there in dodland be able to help me out in giving me a contact to purchase a pair of military air borne combat boots d in size these boots so i have read here on rec moto are calf height boots that use only velcro for enclosure i have phoned around and nobody seems to carry such an item i admit i have not gone into the deepest bowels of nyc yet for the search but i have made some calls to several of the bigger army navy type stores with no luck anyone out there know of a place that does carry such an item as well as does mail order any help would be appreciated o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o rob castro email rdc cunixf cc columbia edu live for today kz ltd phone for today you live dod nyc new york new york usa rc tm o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o
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re hard copy hot pursuit in a previous article wcd uxa cso uiuc edu daniel warren c says yo did anybody see this run of hard copy no i don t watch that bu sh t the kat although not the latest machine is still a high performance machine and he slams on the brakes of couse we all know that cages especially the ones with the disco lights can t stop as fast as our high performance machines so what happens the cage plows into the kat so does this mean the cop is at fault for rear ending the bike you know following too closely and reckless driving dod darkman the significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them albert einstein the eternal champion
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re v max handling request in article apr ntuvax ntu ac sg ba ntuvax ntu ac sg writes hello there ican anyone who has handson experience on riding the yamaha v max pls kindly comment on its handling i ve ridden one twice it was designed to be a monster in a straight line which it is it has nothing on an fzr in the corners in fact it just didn t handle that well at all in curves but hey that s not what it was designed to do my two cents alan
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re rejetting carbs mark kromer on the thu apr gmt wibbled in an article rtaraz bigwpi ramin taraz wrote does the amount of exhaust allowed to leave the engine through the exhaust pipe make that much of a difference the amount of air fuel mixture that a cylender sucks in tries to suck in depends on the speed of the piston when it goes down and the pressure in the cylinder at the end of the exhaust stroke with a poor exhaust system this pressure may be above atmospheric with a pipe that scavenges well this may be substantially below atmospheric this effect will vary with rpm depending on the tune of the pipe some pipes combined with large valve overlap can actually reverse the intake flow and blow mixture out of the carb when outside the pipes effective rev range now my question is which one provides more resistence as far as the engine is conserned resistance that the exhaust provides or the resistance that results from the bike trying to push itself and the rider two completely different things the state of the pipe determines how much power the motor can make the load of the bike determines how much power the motor needs to make v ark fzr pilot zx payload rd mechanic you re welcome well i for one am so very glad that i have fuel injection all those needles and orifices and venturi and pressures it s worse than school human biology reproduction lessons sex always made me feel a bit queasy nick the simple minded biker dod concise oxford tube rider m lud nick pettefar contractor large currently incarcerated at bnr maidenhead the united kingdom npet bnr ca bmw k rs kay pres pbwasoh uk bs
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re should liability insurance be required in article tcora b gator pica army mil tcora pica army mil tom coradeschi writes in article apr walter bellcore com fist iscp bellcore com richard pierson wrote lets get this no fault stuff straight i lived in nj when nf started my rates went up alot moved to pa and my rates went down alot the nf came to pa and it was a different story if you are sitting in a parking lot having lunch or whatever and someone wacks you guess whose insurance pays for it give up yours bzzzt if it is the other driver s fault your insurance co pays you less deductible then recoups the total cost from the other guy gal s company there s a fancy word for it which escapes me right now and pays you the deductible or you can go to the other guy gal s company right off just takes longer to get your cash as opposed to state farm who cut me a check today on the spot for the damage to my wife s cage the word is subrogation seems to me if you re willing to wait for the money from scumbag s insurance that you save having to pay the deductible however if scumbag s insurance is scum insurance then you may have to pay the deductible to get your insurance co s pack of rabid large fanged lawyers to recover the damages from scum insurance s lawyers sad but true call it job security for lawyers later chris behanna dod h d fxwg wide glide jubilee s red lady behanna syl nj nec com cb t baby bike disclaimer now why would nec zx needs a name agree with any of this anyway i was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs
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re bikes with big dogs in article apr cua edu wendel cua edu writes has anyone ever heard of a rider giving a big dog such as a great dane a ride on the back of his bike my dog would love it if i could ever make it work thanks wendel cua edu on the back might be tricky but here in boulder there is a guy that can always be seen with his golden retriever in the sidecar of course the dog is always wearing wwii style goggles no joke nick coburn dod ama cbr cbr coburnn spot colorado edu
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re ducati opinions wanted frankb sad hp com frank ball writes godfrey digiorgi ramarren apple com wrote the ducati model is essentially a reduced displacement which means it weighs the same and is the same size as the with far less power it is produced specifically to meet a vehicle tax restriction in certain markets which makes it commercially viable it s not sold in the us where it is unneeded and unwanted as such it s somewhat large and overweight for its motor it will still handle magnificently it just won t be very fast there are very few other flaws to mention the limited steering lock is the annoyance noted by most testers and the mirrors aren t perfect the ducati model is essentially a reduced displacement which means it weighs the same and is the same size as the with far less nope it s lbs lightrer than the power and less brakes a single disk that is quite impressive with two fingers on the lever much to beth s horror i lifted the rear wheel about in a fine randy mamola impression as such it s somewhat large and overweight for its motor it will still handle magnificently it just won t be very fast there are i have a feeling that it s going to be fast enough that beth will give a few liter bike riders fits in the future very few other flaws to mention the limited steering lock is the the steering locks are adjustable annoyance noted by most testers and the mirrors aren t perfect beth sees fine out of them i see of them filled with black leather concours sophisticated lady tom dietrich cc sportster ol sport for sale dod sr spike the garage rat ama queued for an m fssnoc two jousts and a gather big fun kspt ma bell cool as a rule but sometimes e mail txd able mkt com com h lewis disclaimer com takes no responsibility for opinions preceding this
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dot tire date codes i just mailed this i noticed a in long cut in the tread of the rear tire on my vfr the cut is only about as deep as the tread block and looks like it only scratched the rubber at the base but the weird thing is it s way over on the edge where i haven t scuffed the tire in yet my questions are how dangerous is this should i replace the tire right away and if i should since the cut is on the unscuffed portion and the tire only has about mi on it what do you think my chances of getting it replaced under warranty are to the nedod mailing list and jack tavares suggested i check out how old the tire is as one tactic for getting it replaced does anyone have the file on how to read the date codes handy thanks dean dean cookson dcookson mitre org dod ama the mitre corp burlington rd bedford ma kotnml kotb the road is my shepherd and i shall not stop vfr f sam eliott road hogs mtv bianchi limited
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re fat boy versus zx new math in article pimfd cre agate berkeley edu robinson cogsci berkeley edu michael robinson writes in article c v s mcz ccu umanitoba ca klinger ccu umanitoba ca jorg klinger writes in apr bnr ca npet bnr ca nick pettefar writes manual velcro on the mar wibbled but is greater than or is greater than or no is the best of all no no no it should be obvious that is the best number by far last year was hot but with the improvements to this year there can be no question hell my dad used to have an old that would beat out today s without breaking a sweat well in the twisties anyway this year s is just too cumbersome for practical use in anything other than repeating decimals remember the good old days when hexadecimals and even binaries were still legal sure they smoked a little blue stuff out the pipes but i had a hex that could slaughter any decimal on the road sigh such nostalgia regards charles dod rz within the span of the last few weeks i have heard elements of separate threads which in that they have been conjoined in time struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing gourd unknown net person
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re drinking and riding in article c wkbp b w eskimo com maven eskimo com norman hamer writes what is a general rule of thumb for sobriety and cycling couple hours after you feel sober what or should i just work with if i drink tonight i don t ride until tomorrow interesting discussion i limit myself to one standard serving of alcohol if i m going to ride and mostly unless the alcohol is something special fine ale good wine or someone else s vsop i usually just don t drink any but then alcohol just isn t really important to me mainly for financial reasons at least one of the magazines claims to follow the aviation guideline of no alcohol whatsoever within hrs of riding a company bike don t remember which mag though it was a few years ago regards charles hicc dod rz within the span of the last few weeks i have heard elements of separate threads which in that they have been conjoined in time struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing gourd unknown net person
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re for johs dhhalden no last un wvnvms wvnet edu writes ducati uue quuncd ver by theodore a kaldis begin cut here cut here part mg nh c m av i nyr h v x e afkin apyt c li t this gif was great i have it as the backdrop on my apollo thingy and many people stop by and admire it of course i tell them that i did it myself it s far too much trouble to contact archive sites to get stuff like this so if anybody else has any good gifs please please don t hesitate to post them is the bra thing still going nick the idiot biker dod concise oxford no bras m lud nick pettefar contractor large currently incarcerated at bnr maidenhead the united kingdom npet bnr ca bmw k rs kay pres pbwasoh uk bs
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re camping question sanjay sinha on the apr gmt wibbled thanks to everyone who posted in my previous quest for camping info another question well not strictly r m stuff i am looking for a thermos flask to keep coffee hot i mean real hot of course it must be the unbreakable type so far what ever metal type i have wasted money on has not matched the vacuum glass type any info appreciated sanjay back in my youth ahem the wiffy and moi purchased a gadget which heated up water from a v source it was for car use but we thought we d try it on my rd b it worked ok apart from one slight problem we had to keep the revs above any lower and the motor would die from lack of electron movement it made for interesting cups of coffee anyhow we would plot routes that contained straights of over three miles so that we had sufficient time to get the water to boiling point this is sometimes difficult in england good luck on your quest nick the biker dod concise oxford m lud nick pettefar contractor large currently incarcerated at bnr maidenhead the united kingdom npet bnr ca bmw k rs kay pres pbwasoh uk bs
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re why are there no turbocharged motorbikes in north america in article apr skyfox howp skyfox writes i just got to thinking why don t manufacturers still make bikes with turbos etc because they add a lot of expense and complexity and make for a less reliable and less controllable bike as an extreme example the cx turbo cost as much as a mike hailwood replica ducati david edmondson davide dcs qmw ac uk queen mary westfield college dod guzzi le mans this means the end of the horse drawn zeppelin
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re what is it with cats and dogs james bessette jimbes cbnewsj cb att com wrote in article hplsla hp com kens hplsla hp com ken snyder writes ps i also heard from a dog breeder that the chains of bicycles and motorcycles produced high frequency squeaks that dogs loved to chase ask the breeder why they also chase bmws also cam chain mike mike mitten gnome pd org emory pd org gnome ama dod irony is the spice of life bianchi backstreet suzuki gs gl the revolution will not be televised
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re boom hubcap attack from speedy engr latech edu speedy mercer i was attacked by a rabid hubcap once i was going to work on a yamaha twin a k a the vibrating tank when i heard a wierd noise off to my left i caught a glimpse of something silver headed for my left foot and jerked it up about a nanosecond before my bike was hit hard in the left rest deleted anyone else had this sort of experience dod technician dr speed not student stolen taglines god is real unless declared integer i came i saw i deleted all your files black holes are where god is dividing by zero the world will end in minutes please log out earth is full please delete anyone you can actually hubcap attacks are fairly common most cagers being too incompetant to reinstall them properly after changing tires or to check them after collisions luckily few are as heavy as the one that got you al moore dod don t forget the immortal swap file read error you lose your mind
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re gpz runs like a bitch i tried mailing you but your domain seems not to exist can t even get sinet slb com to admit to knowing about geco anyway here we go in article q kq innjl griffin orpington sgp slb com you wrote subject gpz runs like a bitch anyone have a cure for sub zero running probs on a gpz anything below revs and the bike wants to cut out all the time the recommended cure in the bike mags seems to be to switch off the engine for a minute to thaw the ice but this is obviously not mutch of a cure mine has had the kawasaki heated carb mod but the problem persists i ve covered the rad which makes the bike run warmer and moves the problem down the temp scale a degree or two has anyone tried a dynojet kit on the or getting desperate different carbs or the fuel injection off the gpz have you talked to kawasaki maybe they did another version of the upgrade kit got to be worth a phone call did you do the carb mod or did you buy it secondhand from someone who said that it had been done is that orpington in kent if so have you heard of the ogri mailing list which i run its an email list for bikers in the uk and interested parties available live or as a daily digest let me know if you want to subscribe good luck dave david edmondson davide dcs qmw ac uk queen mary westfield college dod guzzi le mans this means the end of the horse drawn zeppelin
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where can i afford a goldwing mirror searched without luck for a faq here i need a left aspencade mirror and honda wants for it now if this were another piece of chrome to replace the black plastic that wings come so liberally supplied with i might be able to see that silly price but a mirror is a piece of safety equipment the fact that honda clearly places concern for their profits ahead of concern for my safety is enough to convince me that this my third wing will likely be my last in the mean time anyboby have a non ripoff source for a mirror keith smith keith hydra unm edu
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latest socal rides southern california ridelist please send me any updates to this ride list remember only street rides that are open to all bikers are posted please inc phone for further info also send me your e mail address if you want mailed copies of this list i suggest calling first to make sure that info is current if you find out further info please let me know i strive for accuracy but cannot be responsible for errors e mail address paulb harley tti com c d coffee donuts mx live music f d food drinks available changes since last posting address at end of posting apr th annual laughlin nv river run rides to the run from points all over socal concerts poker runs parties etc etc this is sponsored by the southern calif harley dealer assoc but all bikes are welcome reservations are only at any socal harley dealer river run hr hotline discount room reservations or concert tix tues sat a noon p apr nd annual racing memorabilia show sale art prints photos lithos models books apr scma route tour apr scma trac a gypsy tour a in santa monica john lane apr tax time run for the money abate pins prizes games f d raffles free if you join s in a v twin city brea canyon rd walnut manny apr rd annual gwta loma linda children s hospital benefit run free c d start hot dogs etc finish s in a skip fordyce motors indiana ave riverside apr mma state overnighter frazier park or apr nd yuma prison run mailin gate camping or apr paso robles clean sober run paso robles fairgrounds apr shamrock s rd annual scenic byways tour starts routes s in a simi valley honda l a ave or cycles parts w baseline san bernadino picnic bbq lake hughes apr mra chap e poker run a american legion south d st peris steve hill may ama grand nat l dirt track series race pomona fairplex or may kpfk s fm centerstand radio show and the car show will broadcast live from autobooks etc w magnolia av burbank carshow starts noonb centerstand pm may abate poker run east end of bucklin park imperial valley s in a includes food entertainment barbara may pmc th annual greenhorn tour or may song dog ranch spring rally overnight camping at this famousmotorcycle campground mx all you can eat or drink bbq dinner sunday bkfst person reserve by april song dog ranch rt new cuyama n of ojai keep trying this number may bsa owner s club spring ride castaic landing may album release celebration helmet laws suck by billy gordon the blue rockers la vida hot springs to n to lambert east miles on left special guests mx raffle may st annual spring round up rodeo abate many bike games f d pins raffle s in starts a games noon ea couple free if you join robbies restaurant hwy btwn perris lake elsinore george or susan allen or melanie may mc swap meet orange county fairgnds costa mesa may la cnty mc swap meet may christian m c assn socal rally first assembly of god church nisqually rd victorville bob quintard may mother s with the most may th annual mc awareness day abate p american legion hall gardena bl crnr normandie gardena mx vendors raffles games etc free w pin f d doc or carol or dieter may blue knights th annual benefit ride starts cycle parts west san diego harold crosby may run for the wall la to dc lv a or a from ta truck stop where i i meet in ontario camping motels available at each night s stop rides ends up at the vietnam veterans memorial wall in washington dc bikes are expected to meet there call rod coffey alt info send p h to john anderson deer creek way paso robles ca or call him may long beach mc parts exchange lb veterans memorial stadium may us mc jamboree tulare cnty fairgnds tulare ride in mc show benefit poker run sun mx raffles games starts noon on friday under free for under may blazing saddles tour scma may ariel owners club annual event greenfield ave la chuck walton jun fun in the sun ride mma bakersfield jun class act tour jun silver eagles run palomar san diego jun ventura swap show by the shop ventura fairgnds jun rd annual summer solstice poker run pig feed abate ea couple free if you join pig roast games raffles mx swimming pins s in a swallows inn i ortega hwy san juan capistrano earl rick jun mma s bike fest mariposa fairgrounds hwy to hwy e go miles mx camping available trade show f d games advance gate info tix jun hope house benefit run scma jul bike show accessories unltd jul abate christmas in july jul beach ride to benefit the exceptional children s foundation jul abate old timers poker run jul th annual unicoastal ride and joust starts all over the west coast and goes to pine glen campground near mammoth lakes for a or day weekend of fun with the usenet personalities your fond of flaming to get on the mail list contact joust request harley tti com jul iron horse poker run jul nd annual national ride to work day jul quaff m c mt palomar th annual overnighter la jolla campgrounds jul th annual summer food run abate jul mc swap meet orange county fairgnds costa mesa aug accessories unltd ride aug hot august nights poker run aug tour scma area b aug song dog ranch summer rally overnight camping at this famous motorcycle campground classical mx all you can eat or drink bbq dinner sunday bkfst person reserve by aug song dog ranch rt new cuyama n of ojai keep trying this number aug vets benefit run trac a aug mma chicken roast camarillo park sep th annual flags classic juarez mexico to southern alberta canada person received by frank weed or try sep abate s golden state rendezvous a fri noon mon mid state fairgrounds paso robles sep iron horse rocket run sep black gold poker run taft mc sep redwood run sep bonanza tour shamrocks oct mc swap meet orange county fairgnds costa mesa oct song dog ranch fall rally overnight camping at this famous motorcycle campground mx all you can eat or drink bbq dinner sunday bkfst person reserve by oct song dog ranch rt new cuyama n of ojai keep trying this number oct scma grand tour oct easyriders motorcycle rodeo antelope valley fairgrounds hwy n to ave i exit right lancaster oct nd annual griffith park sidecar rally mineral springs area of the park doug bingham oct mra chap e ride nov love ride to benefit the muscular dystrophy assoc sponsored by glendale h d san fernando rd glendale nov toy key run scma area b nov mc awareness day abate nov accessories unlimited posse ride dec mc swap meet orange county fairgnds costa mesa dec hathaway children s center toy run ongoing events notices hd swap meet show santa fe springs drive in alondra blvd p rd thurs ea mo fee note that in april it was moved to free seminars every saturday luftmeister inc long beach tune in centerstand a radio program for motorcyclists every saturday from pm on kpfk fm parents w out partners mc club meets nd sat a at cocos brea rd colina road in diamondbar a new mc club for women only is forming diamonds and pearls marc motorcycling amateur radio club meets a nd sat denny s e th st santa ana net p weds on info ray or bonnie addresses follows camp from or fwy go north on azusa ave hwy to 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bmwmoa controversy in article rider uucp joe rider cactus org writes vech ra msstate edu craig a vechorik writes good ol boys that have been there too long while i agree with you that the current board is garbage voting you in would simply be trading one form of trash for another do the opponents of your selections get equal time yo joe why don t you post what you really think if there are any rational bmwmoa folks left out there may the rest of us please have a brief summary of the current state of affairs in your esteemed organization together with an historical outline of how you got to the above contretemps points will be deducted for shouting or bulging veins in the temple area pete ahrens
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re ggrrrrrr cages double parking motorcycles pisses me off in article lsp mginnud cash cs utexas edu mcguire cs utexas edu tommy marcus mcguire writes however this has nothing to do with motorcycling unless you consider the vw a bike however this has nothing to do with motorcycling unless you consider the amazona a bike keith hanlan keithh bnr ca bell northern research ottawa canada
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re bmw battery keith hanlan on the wed apr gmt wibbled in article apr ra msstate edu vech ra msstate edu craig a vechorik writes if i remember correctly the reason that bmw s come with those expensive and relatively worthless short lived varda batteries is cause bmw owns a controling interest in that battery manufacturer what s wrong with the bmw battery i ve never had problems and i know numerous people that are still using the original battery in there year old beemers kay my k rs still has her original battery in she s ok nick the sufficiently well charged biker dod concise oxford m lud nick pettefar contractor large currently incarcerated at bnr maidenhead the united kingdom npet bnr ca bmw k rs kay pres pbwasoh uk bs
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re why are there no turbocharged motorbikes in north america in article c j n hy dcs qmw ac uk davide dcs qmw ac uk dave edmondson writes as an extreme example the cx turbo cost as much as a mike hailwood replica ducati so if i can scrounge up a good looking cx turbo will someone trade me an mhr duc for it jeff earls jearls tekig pen tek com dod kottg kotspt wmtc ama fj millennium falcon squid factor klr thumpy hit the button chewie han solo there ain t nothin like a mph sweeper in the idaho rockies me
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re uh der whassa deltabox in article unisql uucp ray unisql uucp ray shea writes can someone tell me what a deltabox frame is and what relation that has if any to the frame on my hawk gt that way next time some guy comes up to me in some parking lot and sez hey dude nice bike is that a deltabox frame on there i can say something besides duh er huh deltabox tm is a registered trademark of yamaha used to describe their aluminum perimeter frame design used on the fzr and fzr in cross section it has a five sided appearance so it probably really should be called a pentabox dave tharp dod you can t wear out davet interceptor cds tek com mra an indian scout k s indian chief ahrma or its brother the chief r s tr b ama they re built like rocks r velorex nsu max to take the knocks bmw r compulsive it s the harleys that my employer has no idea joiner give you grief
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re motorcycle security i saw his bike parked in front of a bar a few weeks later without the dog and i wandered in to find out what had happened he said somebody stole m damn dog they left the harley behind dave tharp dod you can t wear out davet interceptor cds tek com mra an indian scout k s indian chief ahrma or its brother the chief r s tr b ama they re built like rocks r velorex nsu max to take the knocks bmw r compulsive it s the harleys that my employer has no idea joiner give you grief
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tickets advice is worth what you paid i can t think of another subject that generates as much contradictory advice as traffic laws and their enforcement everybody s got an opinion and is dead certain they are right yet acurate information is extremely difficult to come by the dmv doesn t know cops don t know your traffic school instructor doesn t know the vehicle code only tells part of the story judges choose to interpret the laws in a wide variety of ways and the public at large i seldom hear any advice that doesn t disagree with something i ve experienced if you don t believe me i suggest you get a copy of the vehicle code study it and then sit in on a day or two of court and see what really happens read fight your ticket too but don t miss the little section at the end where it says your chances are lousy and you re basically screwed as you may have guessed i m pretty down on the system here in california i ve carefully prepared for court bringing witnesses and revealing serious holes in the officer s story only to be slapped with the maximum allowable fine plus assessments of over the message clear that the judge does not appreciate john q public trying his own cases so here s my advice when you find yourself with a ticket take traffic school if you can if it s a serious matter get a lawyer a lawyer can present the exact same case as you the difference is the sentence paul thompson apple computer
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re bike sold over net miles away in article hplsla hp com kens hplsla hp com ken snyder writes any other bikes sold long distances out there i d love to hear about it i bought my vfr from a guy in san jose via the net that s miles according to my odometer mark andy living in pittsburgh bought his rz from a dude in massachusetts or was it connecticut axel
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re observation re helmets in article mavenry altcit eskimo com maven mavenry altcit eskimo com norman hamer writes the question for the day is re passenger helmets if you don t know for certain who s gonna ride with you like say you meet them at a church meeting yeah that s the ticket what are some guidelines should i just pick up another shoei in my size to have a backup helmet xl or should i maybe get an inexpensive one of a smaller size to accomodate my likely passenger if your primary concern is protecting the passenger in the event of a crash have him or her fitted for a helmet that is their size if your primary concern is complying with stupid helmet laws carry a real big spare you can put a big or small head in a big helmet but not in a small one ed green former ninjaite i was drinking last night with a biker ed green east sun com and i showed him a picture of you i said dod go on get to know her you ll like her the grateful dead it seemed like the least i could do
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re dot tire date codes in rec motorcycles cookson mbunix mitre org cookson writes to the nedod mailing list and jack tavares suggested i check out how old the tire is as one tactic for getting it replaced does anyone have the file on how to read the date codes handy it s quite simple the code is the week and year of manufacture rich sturges h nswc carderock division w i speak for no one else and listen to the same
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re bike sold over net miles away in article hplsla hp com kens hplsla hp com ken snyder writes any other bikes sold long distances out there i d love to hear about it i bought my moto guzzi from a univ of va grad student in charlottesville last spring mark cervi cervi oasys dt navy mil w dod mgnoc moto guzzi sp ii what kinda bikes that a moto guzzi what s that its italian mark cervi carderockdiv nswc code annapolis md cervi oasys dt navy mil w
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re bikes and contacts in article apr skcla monsanto com mpmena skcla monsanto com writes michael manning must be that blockhead of yours the gargoyles are the only thing that work for me michael menard p s when you showin up at highland house we ll compare sunglasses let s see how the weather is saturday or sunday it sucks today what time is good you re welcome to give any of the ones i have a try as for the gargoyles if you want mine you can have em i think the bridge of my nose holds them too far from my face same deal for the two of my friends who tried them for people who use them with a full face helmet all bets are off sorry if they fit you well and took my complaint personally yes the oakleys are much more desirable squid attire also the gargoyles aren t that ugly even in my opinion or i wouldn t have tried them michael manning mmanning icomsim com nextmail accepted flstf fatboy ducati ss
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re bikes contacts lenses radial keratotomy in article c fi h ew rice edu jcn rice edu writes i was going to try radial keratotomy but they want over per eye that s a lot of contact lenses and sunglasses and a lot of money if they make one tiny mistake o jeff nichols also if they don t get it exactly right or your eyes change again contacts to correct for it are out of the question this is due to the strange conical shape your cornea takes after the surgery michael manning mmanning icomsim com nextmail accepted flstf fatboy ducati ss
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re ducati opinions wanted in article qhm mbs news ysu edu albion h bowers ak yfn ysu edu writes oh yeah at mph in the quarter is such a slug come on when was the last time you used your s max power peak i think maybe you should ride one first before passing judgement there is a lot more than just maximum acceleration i really didn t mean to imply that my ninja was any better than a duc i have to talked to a few duc owners ss owners in particular who say that the power is something less than overwhelming that said i would love to have a ss i guess i should have been a bit more specific if you have something that weighs that same as the go for the extra cubes i think that fact that i own a gtv shows that i don t care about maximum power it s no slug though to the exclusion of everything else the note and the handling are more important to me i just bought a ninja because i couldn t afford a duc didn t mean to ruffle any feathers i ll probably be getting a ss next year mark mark s burnham markb wc novell com ama dod alfa romeo gtv ninja
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re rejetting carbs in article jburney hydra nodc noaa gov jburney hydra nodc noaa gov jeff burney writes if we are only talking about stroke i think i can understand exhaust pulse affect in a stroke the intake valve is closed on the exhaust stroke and the gas is pushed out by the cyclinder i guess there is some gas compression that may affect the amount pushed out but the limiting factor seems to be the header pipe and not the canister meaning would gases so far down the line the canister really have an effect on the exhaust stroke do the gases really compress that much for discussion purposes i will ignore dynamic effects like pulses in the exhaust pipe and try to paint a useful mental picture unless an engine is supercharged the pressure available to force air into the intake tract is atmospheric at the time the intake valve is opened the pressure differential available to move air is only the difference between the combustion chamber pressure left over after the exhaust stroke and atmospheric as the piston decends on the intake stroke combustion chamber pressure is decreased allowing atmospheric pressure to move more air into the intake tract at no time does the pressure ever become negative or even approach a good vacuum at the time of the exhaust valve closing the pressure in the combustion chamber is essentially the pressure of the exhaust system up to the first major flow restriction the muffler note that the volume of gas that must flow through the exhaust is much larger than the volume that must flow through the intake because of the temperature difference and the products of combustion in the last years the japanese manufacturers have started paying attention to exhaust and intake tuning in pursuit of almighty horsepower at this point in time on high performance bikes substitution of an aftermarket free flow air filter will have almost zero affect on performance because the stock intake system flows very well anyway substitution of an aftermarket exhaust system will make very little difference unless in general the new exhaust system is much louder than the stocker on older bikes exhaust back pressure was the dominating factor if free flowing air filters were substituted very little difference was noted unless a free flowing exhaust system was installed as well in general an engine can be visualized as an air pump at any given rpm anything that will cause the engine to pump more air be it on the intake or exhaust side will cause it to produce more horsepower pumping more air will require recalibration rejetting of the carburetor dave tharp dod you can t wear out davet interceptor cds tek com mra an indian scout k s indian chief ahrma or its brother the chief r s tr b ama they re built like rocks r velorex nsu max to take the knocks bmw r compulsive it s the harleys that my employer has no idea joiner give you grief
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re drinking and riding personally i follow the no alcohol rule when i m on a bike my view is that you have to be in such a high degree of control that any alcohol could be potentially hazardous to my bike if i get hurt it s my own fault but i don t want to wreck my katana i developed this philosophy from an impromptu experiment i had one beer at in the evening and had volleyball practice at i wasn t even close to leagle intoxication but i couldn t perform even the most basic things until this made me think about how i viewed alcohol and intoxication you may seem fine but your reactions may be affected such that you ll be unable to recover from hitting a rock or even just a gust of wind i greatly enjoy social drinking but for me it just doesn t mix with riding max enjoyment eric
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got my bike was wanted advice on cb c purchase thanks to all of you who gave advice on the cb custom as recommended i had the bike compression tested compression was a little low but very even across the four cylinders psi they said that it was tested a little cold so that would explain the low numbers around does this sound right otherwise the bike looked great no signs of road rash and no rust this bike looks great it is now in the shop getting tuned and new tires i am opting for the metzler me and me tires thanks to those who posted this other thread this bike is big compared to my other bikes sure is alot harder to load on a trailer than the kdx was i should be road legal tomorrow i am ignoring the afforementioned concerns about the transmission and taking my chances being a reletively new reader i am quite impressed with all the usefull info available on this newsgroup i would ask how to get my own dod number but i ll probably be too busy riding jamie w burnside o o jburnside ll mit edu c
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what about no fault insurance companies sure seem to go for no fault coverage since the majority of accidents are the cagers fault doesn t this imply that we would have to pay much higher rates under a no fault system with a cars only system it seems to make sense on the surface take the legal costs out of the system but it looks like motorcyclists would get screwed michael chuck bain meb icdfs ca boeing com semi loud pipes save lives
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re rejetting carbs now i am jumping into the middle of this thread so i may not know what y all been talking about but i have a few comments in rec motorcycles davet interceptor cds tek com dave tharp cds writes unless an engine is supercharged the pressure available to force air into the intake tract is atmospheric at the time the intake valve is opened the pressure differential available to move air is only the difference between the combustion chamber pressure left over after the exhaust stroke and atmospheric as the piston decends on the intake stroke combustion chamber pressure is decreased allowing atmospheric pressure to move more air into the intake tract at no time does the pressure ever become negative or even approach a good vacuum there are a number of other factors that are very important the three biggest being air velocity air momentum and shock waves velocity stacks have been used for years and are now being used inside of stock airboxes on a number of bikes at a tuned engine rpm the stacks can greatly increase the speed and thus momentum of the air rushing in air momentum is critical in getting good air intake the momentum of the air stack outside the combustion chamber will force its way inside long after the piston has begun its compressive up stroke shock waves are used to induce air intake and to prevent fresh air from escaping out the exzhaust ports shock waves are the product of expansion chambers or any other means of presenting a wall opening or closing to the air in motion beyond this i am lost in the mystery of how they design for shock waves rich sturges h nswc carderock division w i speak for no one else and listen to the same
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re observation re helmets in article mavenry altcit eskimo com maven mavenry altcit eskimo com norman hamer writes grf dropped my shoei rf off the seat of my bike while trying to rock it onto it s centerstand chipped the heck out of the paint on it so i cheerfully spent on a bottle of testor s model paint and repainted the scratches and chips for minutes the question for the day is re passenger helmets if you don t know for certain who s gonna ride with you like say you meet them at a church meeting yeah that s the ticket what are some guidelines should i just pick up another shoei in my size to have a backup helmet xl or should i maybe get an inexpensive one of a smaller size to accomodate my likely passenger my rule of thumb is don t give rides to people that wear a bigger helmet than you unless your taste runs that way or they are family friends gee reminds me of a dancer in hull just over the river from ottowa that i saw a few years ago for her i would a bought a bigger helmet or even her own bike or anything else she wanted there are only two types of ships in the navy submarines and targets xs lh dod next raise richard pierson e vnet internet fist iscp bellcore com uunet uunet bcr fist include std disclaimer my opinions are my own i don t shop in malls i buy my jeans jackets and ammo in the same store
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re ggrrrrrr cages double parking motorcycles pisses me off in article apr dsd es com bgardner pebbles es com blaine gardner writes in article castle ed ac uk wbg festival ed ac uk w geake writes the banana one isn t imho ultra sticky labels printed with your favourite curse are good even our local hospitals use them instead of wheel clamps putting one about a size on each window of the cage so what s your local hospital s favorite curse may your skin stick to a frozen bed pan may your apple juice be mistakenly drawn from the urinalisys lab there are only two types of ships in the navy submarines and targets xs lh dod next raise richard pierson e vnet internet fist iscp bellcore com uunet uunet bcr fist include std disclaimer my opinions are my own i don t shop in malls i buy my jeans jackets and ammo in the same store
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re contact person for boots in article apr news columbia edu rdc cunixf cc columbia edu robert d castro writes would anyone out there in dodland be able to help me out in giving me a contact to purchase a pair of military air borne combat boots d in size these boots so i have read here on rec moto are calf height boots that use only velcro for enclosure i have phoned around and nobody seems to carry such an item i admit i have not gone into the deepest bowels of nyc yet for the search but i have made some calls to several of the bigger army navy type stores with no luck anyone out there know of a place that does carry such an item as well as does mail order any help would be appreciated currently there are no velcro jump boots as issue in the military there are two other kinds one is made my cochran and sell for in either the clothing sales store or us cavalry price match at the cav store the second co is also sold but somewhat cheaper in design actually they don t care what you wear as long is they are eyelets high there is another boot called a tankers boot this has similar construction to a wellington boot except for the boot shape and has straps that wrap around for tightness nice boots there are only two types of ships in the navy submarines and targets xs lh dod next raise richard pierson e vnet internet fist iscp bellcore com uunet uunet bcr fist include std disclaimer my opinions are my own i don t shop in malls i buy my jeans jackets and ammo in the same store
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re should liability insurance be required if i have one thing to say about no fault it would be it isn t there are only two types of ships in the navy submarines and targets xs lh dod next raise richard pierson e vnet internet fist iscp bellcore com uunet uunet bcr fist include std disclaimer my opinions are my own i don t shop in malls i buy my jeans jackets and ammo in the same store
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re motorcycle security in article tekgen bv tek com davet interceptor cds tek com dave tharp cds writes i saw his bike parked in front of a bar a few weeks later without the dog and i wandered in to find out what had happened he said somebody stole m damn dog they left the harley behind animal rights people have been know to do that to other bike riding dogs cats and racoons there are only two types of ships in the navy submarines and targets xs lh dod next raise richard pierson e vnet internet fist iscp bellcore com uunet uunet bcr fist include std disclaimer my opinions are my own i don t shop in malls i buy my jeans jackets and ammo in the same store
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re should i buy a vrf mark n bricker mnb cs rit edu wrote i am in the market for a bike and have recently found a honda vrf at a dealership the bike has about miles and is around it has had two previous owners both employees of the dealership who i have been told took very good care of the bike i have two questions is this too many miles for a bike i know this would not be many miles for a car but i am unfamiliar with the life span of bikes is this a decent price i am also unfamilar with prices for used bikes is there a blue book for bikes like there is for cars thanks for any advice you can give mark mark k is not too many miles on a vfr i sold my well maintained vfr with k miles on it and the engine was in mint condition all that the bike needed was steering head bearings and fork bushings and seals the guy who bought it had a mechanic pull the valve covers to look at the top end do a compression check etc he confirmed it was mint as for price seems a little steep i bought my with k miles on it a year ago and in absolutely cherry condition for there is a bluebook ask your bank or credit union for the going price i ve seen a couple of ads for vfr s in the dollar range they all said low miles mint condition but i didn t actually go look at them a vfr is a very sweet bike and will last you forever if you maintain it at all one thing to look for btw is a soft front end if my vfr is any indication at k miles the fork springs were totally shot progressive springs fixed it right up good luck k e n ken snyder ms loc un hewlett packard co lsid lake stevens instrument div soper hill road gte tn everett wa un ix kens lsid hp com
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re should i buy a vrf mark n bricker mnb cs rit edu wrote i am in the market for a bike and have recently found a honda vrf at a dealership the bike has about miles and is around it has had two previous owners both employees of the dealership who i have been told took very good care of the bike i have two questions is this too many miles for a bike i know this would not be many miles for a car but i am unfamiliar with the life span of bikes is this a decent price i am also unfamilar with prices for used bikes is there a blue book for bikes like there is for cars thanks for any advice you can give mark k e n ken snyder ms loc un hewlett packard co lsid lake stevens instrument div soper hill road gte tn everett wa un ix kens lsid hp com
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re ggrrrrrr cages double parking motorcycles pisses me off reading all you folks things to do to illegally parked cars made me wonder who s going to carry cinder blocks on a bike or is ready to do serious damage key carvings etc to a cage then i had an idea chain lube isn t just for chain s anymore it seems more reasonable to me no permanent damage but lots of work to get off don t ask me how i know use it anywhere the windshield the door handles in the keyhole etc what a nasty mood i m in it s raining again k e n ken snyder ms loc un hewlett packard co lsid lake stevens instrument div soper hill road gte tn everett wa un ix kens lsid hp com
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re bikes vs horses was re insect impacts f in a previous article npet bnr ca nick pettefar says jonathan e quist on the thu apr gmt wibbled in article txd able mkt com com txd esd com com tom dietrich writes in a previous article egreen east sun com ed green pixel cruncher says lots of things none of which are quoted here the nice thing about horses though is that if they break down in the middle of nowhere you can eat them and they re rather tasty fuel s a bit cheaper too per gallon bushel perhaps unfortunately they eat the same amount every day no matter how much you ride them and if you don t fuel them they die on an annual basis i spend much less on bike stuff than amy the wonder wife does on horse stuff she has two horses i ve got umm lesseee bikes i ride constantly she rides four or five times a week even if you count insurance and the cost of the garage i built i m getting off cheaper than she is and having more fun imho go fast take chances mike s
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re more dod paraphernali js from stafford vax winona msus edu john stafford js in article pppnrinnitg cronkite central sun com js doc webrider central sun com steve bunis wrote js js how about a decal of thicker vinyl js how about a geeky temporary tatoo i mean why should the js rubs be exempt from a little razzing that s sick i want you make em up i promise to order i wannabe badtothebone the cheesy live to ride eagles are sitting on my shelf waiting for the big ride down the coast it now looks like we may hit points farther south than expected how do i get in contact with bay area denizens replies to address below me n charlie will be along in early or mid may seriously i like the idea of temporary geekys geekies geekae geekii it fits the whole dod image it sounds bad but it s really worse ryan cousinetc yamaha vision xz black pig of inverness live to ride kotrb ajs c s king rat to work to dod i d be a squid if i could afford the bike flame to ryan cousineau compdyn questor org vancouver bc canada live js js john stafford minnesota state university winona js all standard disclaimers apply slmr a if lucas built weapons wars wouldn t start either computer dynamics bbs hst v vancouver bc canada easy access low rates friendly sysop
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re motorcycle courier s jl ns subject re motorcycle courier summer job i d like to thank everyone who replied i will probably start looking in earnest after may when i return from my trip down the pacific coast the geographical feature not the bike ryan cousinetc yamaha vision xz black pig of inverness live to ride kotrb ajs c s king rat to work to dod i d be a squid if i could afford the bike flame to ryan cousineau compdyn questor org vancouver bc canada live slmr a have bike will travel quickly very quickly computer dynamics bbs hst v vancouver bc canada easy access low rates friendly sysop
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re live free but quietly or die in article qegpf d i sixgun east sun com egreen east sun com ed green pixel cruncher writes i know it sounds ludicrous for a biker to advocate restrictions on biking in a biking forum don t you mean former motorcyclist roid
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re riceburner respect in article apr megatek com randy megatek com randy davis writes the rider pilot i m happy i ve had such an effect on your choice of words seth t was a time when i could get a respectable response with a posting like that randy s post doesn t count cause he saw the dearth of responses and didn t want me to feel ignored thanks randy i was curious about this dod thing how do i get a number roid
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re riceburner respect in article oxz b w w cellar org craig cellar org saint craig writes no anyone who is a true rider with the real riding attitude will offer a wave weather they are on a harley or on a honda or some other bike inless they have a serious case of my bike is better than your and you re too low to be acknowleged this you ll find is the case with most of the harley riders out here where i am however i still give them a wave and ride secure in the knowlege that i m a better persob than they are huh roid
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re recommendation for a front tire in article c hrxj ace unix amherst edu nrmendel unix amherst edu nathaniel m endell writes ken orr orr epcot spdc ti com wrote in article c g hv cs unix amherst edu nrmendel unix amherst edu nathaniel mendell writes steve mansfield smm rodan uu net wrote yes my front tire is all but dead it has minimal tread left so it s time for a new one any recommendations on a good tire in front i m riding on an almost brand new me a in back steve mansfield the system we ve learned says we re equal under la w smm uunet uu net but the streets are reality the weak and poor will fall suzuki gs e let s tip the power balance and tear down the crown dod educate the masses we ll burn the white house down queensryche speak the word the best thing is to match front and back no given that the a perfect is such a good tire just go with that one the me a perfect is a rear the match for the front is the me laser dod k o ama orr epcot spdc ti com yeah what he said nathaniel zx dod am yes you definitely need a front tire on a motorcycle grin
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re how to act in front of traffic jerks in article qmvutinn he lynx unm edu galway chtm eece unm edu denis mckeon writes in heavy traffic i slow down a bit mostly so i have more buffer zone in front to balance the minimal buffer behind but i also often find that the jerk behind will notice traffic moving faster in other lanes switch into one of them and pass me which is fine because then i can keep a better eye on the jerk from behind while looking ahead rather than from in front while splitting my attention between ahead and the mirrors this is pretty damned complicated i just make a back off motion with my hand arm and the second or third time even the most braindead cager backs off if they don t back off then i find a way to get the hell out of there the cager is either psychotic drunk or just a complete asshole in any case i don t want to be anywhere near and especially not in front curtis jackson cjackson mv us adobe com hawk gt maxim dod kotb black lab mix studley doright collie golden george there is no justification for taking away individuals freedom in the guise of public safety thomas jefferson
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re choking ninja problem in article apr kuhub cc ukans edu starr kuhub cc ukans edu writes i need help with my zx a i put supertrapp slip on s on it and had the carbs re jetted to match a set of k n filters that replaced the stock airbox now i have a huge flat spot in the carburation at about thousand rpm in most any gear this is especially frustrating on the highway the bike likes to cruise at about mph which happens to be rpm in sixth gear i ve had it tuned and this doesn t seem to help i am thinking about new carbs or the injection system from a gpz does anyone have any suggestions for a fix besides restoring it to stock starr kuhub ukans cc edu the brain dead ted nugent it sound like to me that your carbs are not jetted properly if you did it yourself take it to a shop and get it done right if a shop did it get your money back and go to another shop bennett leve v sabre i m drowning throw orlando fl xl me a bagel hoggle hoggle bleve peora sdc ccur com
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airhorns on an fj review for those of you who are thinking about fiamms you might also want to think about airhorns i just installed a set of bosch air horns ordered from dennis kirk pg of the latest catalog on my fj they are rated at db at meters i installed them using gage wire from the battery to the relay to the compressor to ground my stock horn connectors fit the relay pins just fine i soldered the connections to the relay and compressor and used a crimp type battery connector and an inline amp fuse connector from napa i installed the compressor just forward of the fuse box in the front fairing by tie wrapping between the steering head frame and the black steel tube frame used to support the front fairing you have to remove the front fairing to do this but it fits outside of the frame but inside the fairing on the two vertical supports just in front of the fuses depending how tight your fairing follows the frame you should be able to fit it somewhere in the fairing the compressor is about in diameter and about long the relay mounted on the front of the steering head frame it is small so there should be plenty of good places for it i found a perfect place for the horns that required only tie wraps to mount the horns fit inside the front fairing frame and stick out on either side just in front of the air scoops but behind the turn signals the back of the horns point back towards the center of the bike and come real close to where the gas tank connects to the front part of the frame there is just enough room to the outside to allow full lock to lock clearance and there are nice cut outs in the frame for the back of the horn to go into the short horn is even with the fairing and the long one sticks out about an inch or so but it is really not that noticable unless you look closely they end up pointing down slightly and maybe degrees from straight ahead perfect for those cagers trying to change lanes into you if you have any other questions about the mounting email and i can try to explain better if your bike is not red then you may want to paint them first how do they work you ask they are very very very loud they sound more like a european sports car than a truck but a vast improvement over stock i have used them at least daily since installing them and the amp fuse has not blown yet although the duration of the horn blasts have been short i ve repeatedly scared the shit out of my friends with them even though they know that i have the horns they still jump they are perfect for keeping the pedestrians on the sidewalk the bottom line is they work are loud enough to cause pain and suffering to those stupid lane changing cages as well as take a few years off their lives and are relatively easy to install on the fj ymmv tjk fj with get out of my way horns that looks like a suit you d fight a fire in comment about the aerostich
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buying advice needed i am looking for advice on buying a susuki gs e does anyone out there know about any inherent flaws the bike may have or problems i should look for what about insurance rates is this bike blacklisted also as a person who has never ridden a motorcycle yet is buying a to start off with am i crazy i have been told by some people to start out small and by others that i am lage enough to handle an right off from the start pounds because some others might be a tad bit small oh yeah one more question anybody in the chicago area know of any good instruction schools or programs where i could get aquanted before i just go buy one and kill myself getting it home thanks brian p s please email me direcly because i do not get much of a chance to read your group thanks again
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re countersteering faq please post in article apr rd hydro on ca jlevine rd hydro on ca jody levine writes we all seem to be in agreement that there are two explanations for why one can use the handlebars to lean a moving motorcycle the question is is one of the effect dominant and which one is it the idea would be to design an experiment which would seaprate the two characteristics and see which effect produces a similar result to the one with which those of us who have bikes are familiar as you point out the experiments would be difficult but we know enough about the physics of the situation to do some calculations there are in fact three effects contributing to leaning the bike over to begin a turn gyro effect causing a torque which twists the bike over contact patch having shifted to one side causing bike to fall over contact patch being accelerated to the side causing a torque which twists the bike over take an average bike rider average bike wheel and at speeds of and mph say calculate how much twist of the bars would be needed to produce say degrees of lean in say seconds by each effect alone my guess is that at slow speeds is dominant and at high speeds is dominant and at all speeds contributes not far off bugger all relatively speaking by the way a similar problem is this how does a runner who wants to run round a corner get leaned into the corner fast is there a running group where we could start counter footing arguments and have them all falling over as they tried to work out how they go round corners chris malcolm cam uk ac ed aifh department of artificial intelligence edinburgh university forrest hill edinburgh eh ql uk dod
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re kawasaki ae for sale included in thas sale is a cover the cover is not sold separately the trailer is not being sold pat
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info on sport cruisers i m looking for a sport cruiser factory installed fairings full half hard saddle bags cc and above and all that and still has that sporty look i particularly like the r rs and k rt or s or any of the k series bmw bikes i was wondering if there are any other comparable type bikes being produced by companies other than bmw thanks for the info jae jae cmu edu
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re boom dog attack azw aber ac uk andy woodward writes better still reverse this sequence then hit the bugger under accelleration to stabilise yourself i hate things that attack me if the dog thinks you have run away it has established dominance over these funny noisy sheep things and will attack every bike that comes along for the fun of it if you can hurt the bugger it learns that it is below bikes in the peck order and you may have saved the life of a future biker whose evasive action to avoid the dog might otherwise put him under a truck never avoid a dog for the dog s sake only you re own i hate to admit this but there does seem to be some sort of twisted logic to this approach it s the bikers against the world and the dogs are just another worthless adversary so remember to wear at least calf height leather boots in case the dog gets lucky and sinks his teeth into your attacking foot and go for the gusto if that dog doesn t retreat from the street with his tail between his legs next time you see it then you really haven t done your bit for all your fellow bikers this also applies in cages sorry i can t go this far a dog against and armored cage just doesn t seem like a fair fight if the dog is out of control it is a menace to all road users and no compunction should be felt if ensuring your safety means the destruction of it s after all it is forcing the game not you after all it is a dog eat dog world dave
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more moa stuff like the ra ok so we ve got a hotly contested bmwoa election and some inept leadership my question is the history of the bmw organization that lead to the formation of the bmwra was there something going on in the oa years ago that precipitated the formation of two competing owner s groups just to stave off flames i m a relatively new member of both groups and besides a difference in the slickness of the magazines it seems the major difference is that the ra guys seem to have more fun art art campbell artc world std com compuserve com dod real bmws have just two wheels in my opinion there s nothing in this world beats a vincent and a redheaded girl richard thompson
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re happy easter ranck joesbar cc vt edu wm l ranck writes nick pettefar npet bnr ca wrote english cars rover reliant morgan bristol rolls royce etc talk about harleys using old technology these morgan people really like to use old technology i think their suspension design hasn t changed since they went from wheels to back in the s and it s not like they had reached the pinnacle of good design at that point either well if you want to pick on morgan why not attack its ash wood frame or its hand bent metal skin just try and get a replacement i thought the kingpost suspension was one of the mog s better features karen black
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dogs i m a biker and a dog lover first and foremost i want to mention some common sense if it s a choice between injuring killing a dog or getting yourself injured killed there is only one rational decision only the most insane animal rights kook would put the dog first second it s useful to learn how to read a dog s body language how you react to a dog who is chasing you because he thinks it s a game and that you re playing with him is completely different from how you react to a dog which has hostile intent third it s useful to learn how to present yourself to a dog dogs are social beasts and recognize a domination submission hierarchy to a dog there are two types of fellow creatures that which he dominates and that which dominate him you need to unambiguously represent yourself as being of the latter class you are god you are easily angered and your anger is terrible but god is also amused by one who properly submits to his dominance and may even on rare occasions dispense a kind word a kind word or even oh joy oh rapture unforeseen a dog bisquit now how does that all relate to biking well first it s a good idea to assume that most dogs who chase motorcycles do so because they think it s a game and not out of overt hostility the msf suggestion is a very good one when you see the dog coming slow down so he determines a particular place of interception just before you and he reach that spot punch the throttle so that when he reaches it you re already long gone dogs take a few seconds to react to new input and definitely cannot comprehend the acceleration that a motorcycle is capable of with a hostile dog or one which you repeatedly encounter stronger measures may be necessary this is the face off first and there is very important make sure you never face off a dog on his territory face him off on the road not on his driveway if necessary have a large stick rolled up newspaper etc something the beast will understand is something that will hurt him stand your ground then slowly advance your mental attitude is that you are very angry and are going to dispense terrible punishment the larger the dog the greater your anger dogs will pick up anger just as they can pick up fear and since you and he are not on his home territory it may suddenly dawn on the dog that perhaps he is on your territory and that you are prepared to fight to the death most dogs will decide that it is a good idea to retreat to their own territory where there is at least a home advantage they ll also observe that you are satisfied by that retreat gesture of submission and thus they have escaped punishment the interesting thing about dogs is that body language communicates a great deal to them the more effective you are at communicating body language the less you actually have to do after years with my pound beast i ve learned a few tricks i think
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misc buying info needed hi i have been thinking about buying a motorcycle or a while now and i have some questions is there a buying guide for new used motorcycles that lists reliability how to go about the buying process what to look for etc is there a pricing guide for new used motorcycles blue book also are there any books articles on riding cross country motorcycle camping etc is there an idiots guide to motorcycles any related information is helpful please respond directly to me thanks a lot jordan
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draining battery i have a problem with the battery on my honda cb nighthawk every week or so it is dead and i have to recharge it i ride the bike every day the battery is new and the charging system was checked thoroughly and it seems fine my suspicion is that it is draining somewhere do you have any idea about what is causing this problem please help since my mechanic and me are clueless ljubomir
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re riceburner respect in rec motorcycles klinger ccu umanitoba ca jorg klinger writes in apr icomsim com mmanning icomsim com michael manning writes most people wave or return my wave when i m on my harley other harley riders seldom wave back to me when i m on my duck squids don t wave or return waves ever even to each other from what i can tell when we take a hand off the bars we fall down the problem is that squids and badassbikers can t recognize each other s waves when you re riding a cruiser you wave by lifting two or three fingers of the left hand without first removing that hand from the handlebar when you re riding a crotch rocket you lower the left hand to about ankle level palm forward and call that a wave generic bike riders actually seem to raise the hand entirely off the handlebar and wave it around so it s easy to tell when they re waving chris
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re lane sharing in ca in three years of riding in the cities of san jose santa clara and sunnyvale i never came into any conflict with the local police over my lane splitting habits all three of these cities were listed earlier as being anti splitting in one way or another i can t say whether this was due to luck police kindness or there not actually being any ordinances against it in these cities so i continue revco
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re boom dog attack ryan cousineau compdyn questor org ryan cousineau writes my previous posting on dog attacks must have generated some bad karma or something i ve weathered attempted dog attacks before using the approved method slow down to screw up dog s triangulation of target then take off and laugh at the dog now far behind you this time it didn t work because i didn t have time riding up the hill leading to my house i encountered a liver and white springer spaniel no relation to the springer softail or the springer spagthorpe a close relation to the spagthorpe viking actually the dog encountered me with intent to harm interesting dog collision story deleted what worries me about the accident is this i don t think i could have prevented it except by traveling much slower than i was this is not necessarily an unreasonable suggestion for a residential area but i was riding around the speed limit i worry about what would have happened if it had been a car instead of a dog but i console myself with the thought that it would take a truly insane bdi cager to whip out of a blind driveway at mph for that matter how many driveways are long enough for a car to hit mph by the end i eagerly await comment my driveway and about half my neighbor s driveways are long enough to do a good clicks mph for the velocity impaired if we wanted to granted i live in the country however i ve seen neighbors whip out of their driveways at the above mentioned mph quite a bit they claim they can tell that there s noone on the road for quite a ways this despite having nearly been hit myself by one of them while driving a chev x and twice taking my speed bicycle over the hood of a car that had pulled out saw me then stopped same driver same car about two months apart obmoto the scary relevant part is that these people and i live on the type of twisty two lane that we all favor for riding and i know damn well that they can t see me on my bike not if they couldn t see me in my pickup ryan cousinetc yamaha vision xz black pig of inverness live to ride kotrb ajs c s king rat to work to dod i d be a squid if i could afford the bike flame to ryan cousineau compdyn questor org vancouver bc canada live slmr a he s hurt dammit jim i m a doctor oh right computer dynamics bbs hst v vancouver bc canada easy access low rates friendly sysop there s nothing like the pitter patter of little feet followed by the words hey you re not my daddy sorry i had to do it just once dean woodward you want to step into my world dean fringe rain com it s a socio psychotic state of bliss virago guns n roses my world dod
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re insurance and lotsa points in article news duke edu infante acpub duke edu andrew infante writes well it looks like i m f cked for insurance i had a dwi in and for the beemer as a rec vehicle it ll cost me almost bucks to insure year now what do i do sell the bike and the car and start taking the bus that way you can keep drinking which seems to be where your priorities lay i expect that enough of us on this list have lost friends because of driving drunks that our collective sympathy will be somewhat muted showing great restraint keith hanlan keithh bnr ca bell northern research ottawa canada
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re ducati opinions wanted in article qmnga s q news ysu edu ak yfn ysu edu albion h bowers writes in a previous article bgardner pebbles es com blaine gardner says i guess i m out of touch but what exactly is the ducati a v twin desmo or is it that half a v twin with the balance weight where the nd cylinder would go a second for a isn t bad at all sorry i should have been more specific the ss ran the quater in the last small v twin duc we got in the us and the is a pantah based v twin was the sl pantah and it ran a creditable modern carbs and what not should put the in the high s at btw fzr s ran mid s and the latest crop of japanese s will out run that it s hard to remember but but a new goof will clobber an old kz handily both in top end and roll on technology stands still for no one not too hard to remember i bought a gs new in it was rd place in the speed wars behind the cbx xs eleven with a mile and horses that wouldn t even make a good these days then again i paid for it so technology isn t the only thing that s changed of course i d still rather ride the old gs across three states than any of the s i guess it s an indication of how much things have changed that a second didn t seem too far out of line blaine gardner evans sutherland bgardner dsd es com
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re riceburner respect in article apr cbnewsm cb att com shz mare att com keeper of the tude writes huh roid on a completely different tack what was the eventual outcome of babe vs the bad mouthed biker later chris behanna dod h d fxwg wide glide jubilee s red lady behanna syl nj nec com cb t baby bike disclaimer now why would nec zx needs a name agree with any of this anyway i was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs
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re happy easter karen black karen angelo amd com wrote ranck joesbar cc vt edu wm l ranck writes nick pettefar npet bnr ca wrote english cars rover reliant morgan bristol rolls royce etc talk about harleys using old technology these morgan people really like to use old technology well if you want to pick on morgan why not attack its ash wood frame or its hand bent metal skin just try and get a replacement i thought the kingpost suspension was one of the mog s better features hey i wasn t picking on morgan they use old technology that s all i said there s nothing wrong with using old technology people still use shovels to dig holes even though there are lots of new powered implements to dig holes with bill ranck bill ranck vt edu computing center virginia polytchnic inst state univ blacksburg va
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re bmw moa members read this karr cs cornell edu david karr writes get the organization to act on it is easy to say but says little about what one really can and should do what the organization actually will do is largely determined by the president and directors as far as i can see that s what makes it so important to vote in an election of officers if i remember right i heard that in the last election only of the members actually cast votes i wonder if the current board and their friends and relatives make up of the membership i certainly plan on staying with the club long enough to vote and to see the results it does strike me that the bmwmoa is a lot less politically active in the state and national arenas not infighting than other m c organizations should we change this or just join the other groups that already are in politics i wouldn t support the moa becoming politically active in that sense the ama already knows how to do that and i d rather see the moa support the ama in a manner that the ama needs i think that more could be accomplished from one strong front rather than two not neccessarily coordinated ones joe senner joe rider cactus org austin area ride mailing list ride rider cactus org texas splatterfest mailing list fest rider cactus org
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re bmw moa members read this vech ra msstate edu craig a vechorik writes i wrote the slash two blues for a bit of humor which seems to be lacking in the moa owners news when most of the stuff is i rode the the first day i saw that i rode there the second day i saw this i admit it was a surprise to find something interesting to read in the most boring and worthless mag of all the ones i get any body out there know were the sense if humor went in people i though i still had mine but i dunno i think most people see your intended humor i do i liked the article you seem to forget that you ve stepped into the political arena as well intentioned as you may intend something you re walking through a china store carrying that on your head everything you say or do says something about how you would represent the membership on any given day you don t have to look far in american politics to see what a few light hearted jokes about one segment of the population can do to someone in the limelight obmoto i did manage to squeak in a reference to a joe senner joe rider cactus org austin area ride mailing list ride rider cactus org texas splatterfest mailing list fest rider cactus org
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re bmw moa members read this cdw t dayhoff med virginia edu dances with federal rangers writes i m going to buy a bmw just to cast a vote for groucho i thought you were gonna buy a bmw for its superior power and handling joe senner joe rider cactus org austin area ride mailing list ride rider cactus org texas splatterfest mailing list fest rider cactus org
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re ducati opinions wanted i spoke to a sales dweeb in x a ducati dealer here in blighty and he had nothing good to say about them it appears they are waaaay underpowered basically it s the with a cc engine and there have been some quality problems rusty frame save your pennies buy the
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re bmw moa members read this i first heard it about academic politics but the same thought seems to apply to the bmwmoa the politics is so dirty because the stakes are so small who cares i get my dues worth from the ads and occasional technical articles in the news i skip the generally drab articles about someone s trek across iowa if some folks get thrilled by the power of the bmwmoa they deserve whatever thrills their sad lives provide btw i voted for new blood just to keep things stirred up henry prange physiology iu sch med blgtn dod bmwmoa gsi ride r gs rx conv cage explorer cage the four tenets of all major religions i am right you are wrong hence you deserve to be punished by me
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re extraordinary footpeg engineering exb csdvax csd unsw edu au wrote okay dod ers here s a goddamn mystery for ya oh goody i love a puzzle watson the games afoot today i was turning a degree corner just like on any other day but there was a slight difference a rough spot right in my path caused the suspension to compress in mid corner and some part of the bike hit the ground with a very tangible thunk i pulled over at first opportunity to sus out the damage stuff deleted okay all you engineering types how the f k do you explain this how can you rip a tightly fitting steel thread out of a threaded hole in alloy without damaging the thread in the hole is this some sort of hi tech design thingo let me guess you were making a left turn correct the edge of the stud contacting the road caused it to turn and unthread itself if you had been making a right turn it would have tightened the stud bill ranck bill ranck vt edu computing center virginia polytchnic inst state univ blacksburg va
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