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re european m c insurance i moved to sweden and i have to take all the tests again written and road even though i had a valid us license for some years of course i became a resident and could drive on my us license until i became resident don t know about italy it s different in the eec
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re camping question in article bnr ca npet bnr ca nick pettefar writes back in my youth ahem the wiffy and moi purchased a gadget which heated up water from a v source it was for car use but we thought we d try it on my rd b it worked ok apart from one slight problem we had to keep the revs above any lower and the motor would die from lack of electron movement on my lc rz to any ex colonists i replaced the bolt at the bottom of the barrel with a tap when i wanted a coffee i could just rev the engine until boiling and pour out a cup of hot water i used ethylene glycol as antifreeze rather than methanol as it tastes sweeter roger collier uk sun com o o o o sun microsystems h coventry england u dod gsxr l keeper of the gsxr list
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re aerostitch or piece in article apr vax cit cornell edu na vax cit cornell edu writes request for opinions which is better a one piece aerostitch or a two piece aerostitch we re looking for more than well the pc is more versatile but the pc is better protection thanks in advance nadine i would be scared of trying to fit the one piece when i got my two piece i got the jacket in and the pants in just due to my manly man of an athletic build kind of thing no laughing please seriously i m not trim and the pants would have been way too big also i don t think the piece does provide better protection if i m wrong i ll be swiftly if ever so gently correct by the net pansies of knowledge as they like to call themselves regards jack waters ii dod i don t fear the thief in the night its the one that comes in the afternoon when i m still asleep that i worry about
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re countersteering faq please post leavitt cs umd edu mr bill writes mjs sys uea ac uk mike sixsmith writes mjs also imho telling newbies about countersteering is er counter productive mjs cos it just confuses them i rode around quite happily for years mjs knowing nothing about countersteering i cannot say i ride any differently mjs now that i know about it i interpret this to mean that you re representative of every other motorcyclist in the world eh mike rather presumptive of you imho in my humble opinion leavitt cs umd edu mr bill writes leavitt the time to learn countersteering techniques is when you are first leavitt starting to learn before you develop any bad habits i rode for leavitt five years before taking my first course msf erc and learning leavitt about how to countersteer it s now eight years later and i still leavitt have to consciously tell myself don t steer countersteer old leavitt habits die hard and bad habits even harder mjs sorry bill but this is complete bollocks you learned how to countersteer mjs the first time you rode the bike it s natural and intuitive sorry mike i m not going to kick over the can you not countersteer over mph stone that one s been kicked around enough for the sake of argument i ll concede that it s countersteering sake of argument only mjs msf did not teach you how to countersteer it only told you what mjs you were already doing and there s no value in that i didn t say there was no value all i said was that it is very confusing to newbies there s a big difference in knowing what s happening and how to make it do it especially in the extreme case of an emergency swerve and just letting the bike do whatever it does to make itself turn once i knew precisely what was happening and how to make it do it abruptly and on command my emergency avoidance abilities improved tenfold not to mention a big improvement in my normal cornering ability i am much more proficient knowing how to countersteer the motorcycle rather than letting the motorcycle steer itself that is when i remember to take cognitive command of the bike rather than letting it run itself through the corners whereupon i return to my original comment better to learn what s happening right from the start and how to take charge of it rather than developing the bad habit of merely going along for the ride bill you are kidding yourself here firstly motorcycles do not steer themselves only the rider can do that secondly it is the adhesion of the tyre on the road the suspension geometry and the ground clearance of the motorcycle which dictate how quickly you can swerve to avoid obstacles and not the knowledge of physics between the rider s ears are you seriously suggesting that countersteering knowledge enables you to corner faster or more competently than you could manage otherwise mike i m extremely gratified for you that you have such a natural affinity and prowess for motorcycling that formal training was a total waste of time for you assuming your total training hasn t come from simply from reading rec motorcycles however of the motorcyclists i ve discussed formal rider education with have regarded the experience as overwhelmingly positive this regardless of the amount of experience they brought into the course ranging from minutes to years formal training in this country as far as i am aware does not include countersteering theory i found out about countersteering about six years ago from a physics lecturer who was also a motorcyclist i didn t believe him at first when he said i steered my bike to the right to make it turn left but i went out and analysed closely what i was doing and realized he was right it s an interesting bit of knowledge and i ve had a lot of fun since then telling others about it who were at first as sceptical as i was but that s all it is an interesting bit of knowledge and to claim that it is essential for all bikers to know it or that you can corner faster or better as a result is absurd formal training is in my view absolutely essential if you re going to be able to ride a bike properly and safely but by including countersteering theory in newbie courses we are confusing people unnecessarily right at the time when there are far more important matters for them to learn and that was my original point mike
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re drinking and riding norman hamer maven eskimo com wrote what is a general rule of thumb for sobriety and cycling a couple of hours after you feel sober or what should i just work with if i drink tonight i don t ride until tomorrow i generally find that after two or three decent hits of nitrous my riding improves enormously drinking is silly your breath smells it costs lots of money and the pigs can detect it with their machines no works for me try it nick the like wow um far out er biker dod concise um errr m like um er lud nick pettefar contractor large currently incarcerated at bnr maidenhead the united kingdom npet bnr ca bmw k rs kay pres pbwasoh uk bs
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re where s the oil on my k going in article c dlvo j skates gsfc nasa gov tim intrepid gsfc nasa gov tim seiss writes after both oil changes the oil level was at the top mark in the window on the lower right side of the motor but i ve been noticing that the oil level seen in the window gradually decreases over the miles i m always checking the window with the bike on level ground and after it has sat idle for awhile so the oil has a chance to drain back into the pan the bike isn t leaking oil any place and i don t see any smoke coming out of the exhaust my owner s manual says the amount of oil corresponding to the high and low marks in the oil level window is approx quart it looks like my bike has been using about quarts miles the owner s manual also gives a figure for max oil consumption of about oz mile or l km my question is whether the degree of oil consumption i m seeing on my bike is normal have any other k owners seen their oil level gradually and consistently go down should i take the bike in for work i m asking local guys also to get as many data points as i can it s normal for the bmw k bikes to use a little oil in the first few thousand miles i don t know why i ve had three new k bikes and all three used a bit of oil when new max maybe quart in first miles this soon quits and by the time i had miles on them the oil consumption was about zero i ve been told that the harder you run the bike within reason the sooner it stops using any oil charlie smith charlie elektro cmhnet org kotdohl kotwitdodl kspi dod doh ama moa ra buckey beemers bk ohio v bmw k lt r gs pd r triumph tr columbus ohio usa
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re internet discussion list in article qc f ad moe ksu ksu edu bparker uafhp uark edu brian parker writes hello world of motorcyles lovers soon to be lovers i have started a discussion list on the internet for people interested in talking bikes we discuss anything and everything if you are interested in joining drop me a line since it really isn t a list what we do is if you have a post you send it to me and i distribute it to everyone c mon join and enjoy huh did this guy just invent wreck motorcycles curious minds want to know charlie smith charlie elektro cmhnet org kotdohl kotwitdodl kspi dod doh ama moa ra buckey beemers bk ohio v bmw k lt r gs pd r triumph tr columbus ohio usa
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re internet discussion list in article qc f ad moe ksu ksu edu bparker uafhp uark edu brian parker writes hello world of motorcyles lovers soon to be lovers i have started a discussion list on the internet for people interested in talking bikes we discuss anything and everything if you are interested in joining drop me a line since it really isn t a list what we do is if you have a post you send it to me and i distribute it to everyone c mon join and enjoy on second thought maybe he didn t invent wreck moto he s trying a round about way to figure out the dod theme song one faq coming right up charlie smith dod doh kspt o o there s nothing quite like the pitter patter of little feet followed by the words daddy why am i locked outside o o
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re bikes and contacts in article apr news columbia edu scs cunixb cc columbia edu sebastian c sears writes in article apr linus mitre org cookson mbunix mitre org cookson writes in article c ckp c d news cso uiuc edu cs a dcl nxt cso uiuc edu cs student writes i have a quick question i recently got a bike and drive it often but my one problem is the wind messing with my contacts i have gas permeable how about a full face helmet with the face sheild down works for me actually this doesn t always work for me either i have wind that blows around inside my rf some and it ll dry my eyes out get dust in them eventually unless i m also wearing sunglasses inside my helmet i too usually wear sunglasses inside my full face helmet to keep dirt wind out of my contacts mumble mumble mumble charlie smith dod doh kspt
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re looking for a maintenance manual for honda cb in article apr wam umd edu buffalo wam umd edu duncan d sterling writes if anyone thinks that touring on a cb is pushing the envelope try a twin my local honda dealer says that my honda dream was commonly referred to as a serious touring bike when it first came out maybe there is something in the water around here what s the problem here back in i rode a puch from paris to barcelona and back that was a two stroke and back then it was representative of the size of bikes on the road a was considered a big bike and the superbikes of the day were cc or cc anything bigger was real rare charlie smith dod doh kspt nothing in the water mais voulez vous un peu du melange
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re ggrrrrrr cages double parking motorcycles pisses me off evelyn wells on the apr cst wibbled once again this morning i pulled up to the designated motorcycle parking area only to find a cage pulled up behind the bikes if people don t double park cars why do they do it to motorcycles never mind that rhetorical question i know why they do it what i want to know is what can i do about it carry pieces of paper that say don t park your car in the motorcycle area call the cops wait until they emerge from the building and berate them until they beg forgiveness does anyone else have this problem and what do you do about it evie i don t know if you have a local branch where you are but the preferred method over here is to phone the ira and tell them about the car and that it belongs to an mp who is on a northern ireland government committee an hour or so later and the car is no longer a problem it s best not to park too close to it though nick the vengeful biker dod concise oxford plastic m lud nick pettefar contractor large currently incarcerated at bnr maidenhead the united kingdom npet bnr ca bmw k rs kay pres pbwasoh uk bs
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re bikes vs horses was re insect impacts f jonathan e quist on the thu apr gmt wibbled in article txd able mkt com com txd esd com com tom dietrich writes in a previous article egreen east sun com ed green pixel cruncher says lots of things none of which are quoted here in article rgu usenet ins cwru edu ai cleveland freenet edu mike sturdevant writes you think your average dirt biker can jump a foot log how about an log that is suspended about off of the ground for that matter how about a log that is suspended off of the ground oh ye of little imagination you don t jump over those that s where you lay the bike down and slide under jonathan e quist the nice thing about horses though is that if they break down in the middle of nowhere you can eat them fuel s a bit cheaper too nick the hp biker dod concise oxford giddy up m lud nick pettefar contractor large currently incarcerated at bnr maidenhead the united kingdom npet bnr ca bmw k rs kay pres pbwasoh uk bs
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re extraordinary footpeg engineering in article apr csdvax csd unsw edu au exb csdvax csd unsw edu au writes okay dod ers here s a goddamn mystery for ya the stud on the side of the bike that clunked when i turned was absent i m fairly sure it was there before the event in fact the thread in the hole in the footpeg was perfectly intact with no evidence of something having been forcefully ripped out of it only moments previously okay all you engineering types how the f k do you explain this how can you rip a tightly fitting steel thread out of a threaded hole in alloy without damaging the thread in the hole you can t knock a threaded stud out from its hole without destroying the threads also part of the stud would still be in the hole therefore the stud was not in the hole before you touched something down on that side of the bike dr doom
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re countersteering faq please post egreen east sun com ed green pixel cruncher writes in article zen sys uea ac uk mjs sys uea ac uk mike sixsmith writes egreen east sun com ed green pixel cruncher writes all of us that argue about gyroscopes etc throughly understand the technique of countersteering including all the ones who think that they countersteer all the way through a corner the underlying physics are a different matter and need not be taught to beginners agreed countersteering the technique should be taught for only with understanding of the technique can one develop maximally effective emergency avoidance manuvers this is really the only thing we disagree on maybe we should agree to disagree i still think that telling newbies to steer left to turn to the right is unnecessarily confusing when they ll do it anyway if they just get on the bike and ride the damn thing i know exactly what s happening it s those other gits that haven t a clue me too understanding the physics of traction is fine but i cannot see how detailed theory like that has any place in a motorcyle training course all you need to know is that maximum traction is obtained with the tyre just beginning to slide against the road then we are in violent disagreement while what you state is true it is insufficient to form a traction management policy available traction increases with applied normal force ie traction available to the front wheel increases as weight shifts under braking forces and correspondingly decreases at the rear thus a technique of applying both brakes and easing off the rear and increasing pressure on the front can best be learned with an understanding of weight shift and available traction jeez ed when you started talking about traction management policies i thought you were making some weird reference to looking after railway locomotives the official line here though i do have my doubts about it is that the front brake is applied first followed by the rear brake the idea being that you avoid locking up the rear after weight transfer takes place in practice i suspect most people do what you describe saying brake until the tire just begins to slide is next to useless advice to a newbie he has to go out and slide the tire to find out where that is it also gives him zero information from which to develop a braking technique that changes as the braking and corresponding weight shift develop if you don t slide the tyre you have no way of knowing whether you ve achieved maximum braking or not i m not suggesting that you should always aim to brake as hard as you possibly can but if you want to find the limits of the machine you have to go beyond them in any case for maximum braking if as i suggested you aim to keep both wheels just on the point of sliding then you ll be doing exactly as you suggest
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re new to motorcycles in article apr alw nih gov gregh niagara dcrt nih gov gregory humphreys writes what is buying a bike going to do to my insurance i turn in about a month so my parents have been taking care of my insurance up till now and i need a comprehensive list of costs that buying a motorcycle is going to insure i live in washington dc if that makes a difference it depends on the bike once you ve found a bike you re interested in call some insurance companies for rates some bikes are much cheaper to insure than you might think my ex only costs me year in st louis i m any recommendations on what i should buy where i should look for it for a first bike i recommend cc s or less and a bike short enough to get both feet on the ground when you stop the one piece of advice everyone will give you is to take a motorcycle safety foundation rider s course see a dealer for details in some states completion of such a course can give you a break on insurance it will also teach you to ride properly from the beginning so you won t learn any bad habits good luck riding a motorcycle is the most fun you can have naked or otherwise alan
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re insurance discount erik asphaug x asphaug lpl arizona edu wrote unless some insurance agent offers a multi vehicle discount they do this all the time for cars assuming that you re only capable of progressive offers multi vehicle discounts good prices too imho tony tony jones ant cray com uunet cray ant cmcs codegeneration group software division cray research inc f lone oak drive eagan mn
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re first bike in article forqfa iuzmatnmz andrew cmu edu james leo belliveau jbc andrew cmu edu writes i am a serious motorcycle enthusiast without a motorcycle and to put it bluntly it sucks i really would like some advice on what would oh for a second i thought this was a posting by ed green bruce clarke b c environment e mail bclarke galaxy gov bc ca
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re fortune guzzler barred from bars that s okay he s perfectly welcome to come to scotland you know
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re new to motorcycles gregory humphreys gregh niagara dcrt nih gov wrote greg i m very new to motorcycles haven t even bought one yet i was in the same position about you how do you learn if you ve never ridden i took a class put on by a group called the motorcycle safety foundation in california they might have something similar in washington try calling a motorcycle dealer in your area and asking it s a good first start on how to ride a motorcycle correctly
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re traffic morons in article uupcb compdyn questor org ryan cousineau compdyn questor org ryan cousineau wrote nmm from nielsmm imv aau dk niels mikkel michelsen nmm subject how to act in front of traffic jerks nmm the other day it was raining cats and dogs therefor i was going only to nmm the speed limit on nothing more on my bike this guy in his bmw was nmm driving meters behind me for meters and at the next red light i nmm calmly put the bike on its leg walked back to this car he rolled down the nmm window and i told him he was a total idiot and the reason why nmm did i do the right thing imho you did the wrong thing you could have been shot or he could have run over your bike or just beat the shit out of you consider that the person is foolish enough to drive like a fool and may very well act like one too just get the heck away from the idiot if the driver does something clearly illegal you can file a citizens arrest and drag that person into court it s a hassle for you but a major hassle for the perp john stafford minnesota state university winona all standard disclaimers apply
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re insurance and lotsa points in article apr adobe com cjackson adobe com writes i am very glad to know that none of you judgemental little shits has hey pal who re you calling litte tony tony kidson pgp key by request voice morgan towers the cat has had to move now e mail in order morgan road as i ve had to take the top tony morgan demon co uk bromley off of the machine tny cix compulink co uk england br qe honda st dod compuserve com
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re shaft drives and wheelies on apr gmt xlyx vax cit cornell edu said is it possible to do a wheelie on a motorcycle with shaft drive yes but the rear wheel comes off the ground not the front see it just hops into the air figure john stafford minnesota state university winona all standard disclaimers apply
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re traffic morons in article stafford stafford winona msus edu stafford vax winona msus edu john stafford writes in article uupcb compdyn questor org ryan cousineau compdyn questor org ryan cousineau wrote nmm from nielsmm imv aau dk niels mikkel michelsen nmm subject how to act in front of traffic jerks nmm the other day it was raining cats and dogs therefor i was going only to nmm the speed limit on nothing more on my bike this guy in his bmw was nmm driving meters behind me for meters and at the next red light i nmm calmly put the bike on its leg walked back to this car he rolled down the nmm window and i told him he was a total idiot and the reason why nmm did i do the right thing imho you did the wrong thing you could have been shot or he could have run over your bike or just beat the shit out of you consider that the person is foolish enough to drive like a fool and may very well act like one too just get the heck away from the idiot if the driver does something clearly illegal you can file a citizens arrest and drag that person into court it s a hassle for you but a major hassle for the perp john stafford minnesota state university winona you can t make a citizens arrest on anything but a felony all standard disclaimers apply
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re paris dakar bmw touring mike johnson mentorg com mentor graphics sw boeckman rd software support corporation wilsonville or framework products division
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re shaft drives and wheelies in a previous article xlyx vax cit cornell edu says mike terry asks is it possible to do a wheelie on a motorcycle with shaft drive no mike it is imposible due to the shaft effect the centripital effects of the rotating shaft counteract any tendency for the front wheel to lift off the ground dod darkman the significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them albert einstein the eternal champion
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re first bike and wheelies in a previous article jbc andrew cmu edu james leo belliveau says anyone i am a serious motorcycle enthusiast without a motorcycle and to put it bluntly it sucks i really would like some advice on what would be a good starter bike for me i do know one thing however i need to make my first bike a good one because buying a second any time soon is out of the question i am specifically interested in racing bikes cbr f gsx r i know that this may sound kind of crazy considering that i ve never had a bike before but i am responsible a fast learner and in love please give me any advice that you think would help me in my search including places to look or even specific bikes that you want to sell me thanks the answer is obvious zx d dod darkman the significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them albert einstein the eternal champion
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re shaft drives and wheelies xlyx vax cit cornell edu writes is it possible to do a wheelie on a motorcycle with shaft drive no it s not possible to countersteer either for the humor impared p pphhhhhtttttt concours sophisticated lady tom dietrich cc sportster ol sport for sale dod sr spike the garage rat ama queued for an m fssnoc two jousts and a gather big fun kspt ma bell cool as a rule but sometimes e mail txd able mkt com com h lewis disclaimer com takes no responsibility for opinions preceding this
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honda cbr for sale for sale honda cbr hurricane i bought the bike at the end of last summer and although i love it the bills are forcing me to part with it the bike has a little more than miles on it and runs very strong it is in nead of a tune up and possibly break pads but the rubber is good i am also tossing in a tankbag and a kiwi helmet asking or best offer add hits newspaper and micronews interested parties can call during the day and in the evenings no later than pm
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re traffic morons in uupcb compdyn questor org ryan cousineau compdyn questor org ryan cousineau writes nmm from nielsmm imv aau dk niels mikkel michelsen nmm subject how to act in front of traffic jerks i ve found that an effective strategy is to flash my brake light by pumping the pedal you will obviously need a bit of free play in your brake pedal to do this it seems that even the most brain dead idiot can usually discern that a flashing red light directly in front of him her it may mean that something is wrong i see one thing wrong with your strategy the boy who cried wolf jorg klinger gsxr if you only new who arch eng services lost horizons cr i think i am umanitoba man ca the embalmer it anonymous squidonk
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re cb c with flames out the exhaust in article apr research nj nec com chris behanna behanna syl nj nec com writes in article apr bnr ca dave dal farra gpz bnr ca writes reminds me of a great editorial by bruce reeve a couple months ago in cycle canada he was so pissed off with cops pulling over speeders in dangerous spots and often blind corners that one day he decided to get revenge cruising on a factory loaner zzr test bike he noticed a cop had pulled over a motorist on an on or off ramp with almost no shoulder being a bright lad he hit his bike s kill switch just before passing the cop who happened to be bending towards the offending motorist there by exposing his glutes to the passing world with his ignition system now dead he pumped his throtle two or three times to fill his exhaust canister s with volatile raw fuel all it took was a stab at the kill switch to re light the ignition and send a flame in sargeant swell s direction i wonder if any cycle cops read cycle canada although i agree with the spirit of the action i do hope that the rider ponied up the or so it takes to replace the exhaust system he just destroyed the owner s manual explicitly warns against such behavior for exactly that reason you can destroy your muflers that way later chris behanna dod h d fxwg wide glide jubilee s red lady behanna syl nj nec com cb t baby bike disclaimer now why would nec zx needs a name agree with any of this anyway i was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs ya fat chance the offending rider was a moto journalist those guys can sell hundreds of bikes with one stroke of the pen and as such get away with murder when it comes to test bikes one way or the other it was probably worth the early expiration of one mufler to see a bone head get his butt baked dave d f it s true they say that money talks when mine spoke it said buy me a drink
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how to buy a first bike etc there have been a lot of posts lately about i wanna buy my first bike is a gsxr zx cbr fzr a good bike to learn on etc i think i m going to put together a faq on buying a new bike ravi used to post one all the time bruce clarke b c environment e mail bclarke galaxy gov bc ca
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stuff for sale is gone thanks to all who responded the three items electric vest aerostitch suit and scarf are all spoken for gary gary wasserman a completely irrational attraction to bmw bikes interleaf inc prospect place hillside ave waltham ma grw ileaf com x fax dod
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re new to motorcycles in article apr alw nih gov gregh niagara dcrt nih gov gregory humphreys writes i only have about to work with so that would have to cover everything bike helmet anything else that i m too ignorant to know i need to buy the following numbers are approximate and will no doubt get me flamed helmet new but cheap jacket used or very cheap gloves nothing special motorcycle safety foundation riding course a must that leaves you between and depending on the accuracy of my numbers to buy a used bike get it registered get it insured and get it running properly i d say you re cutting it close perhaps if your parents are reasonable and you indicated your wish to learn to ride safely you could get them to pick up the cost of the msf course and some of the safety gear early holiday presents or whatever those are one time well long term anyway investments and you could spend your money on the actual bike insurance registration and maintenance curtis jackson cjackson mv us adobe com hawk gt maxim dod kotb black lab mix studley doright collie golden george there is no justification for taking away individuals freedom in the guise of public safety thomas jefferson
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re fortune guzzler barred from bars in article c qtvl m dartvax dartmouth edu russell p hughes dartmouth edu knicker twister writes in article apr bnr ca npet bnr ca nick pettefar writes with regards to the pub brawl he might have a history of such things just because he was a biker doesn t make him out to be a reasonable person even the dod might object to him joining who knows if he had a history of such things why was it not mentioned in the article and why did they present the irrelevant detail of where he got his drinking money from i can t say exactly who is at fault here but from where i sit is looks like we re seeing the results either of the law going way out of hand or of shoddy journalism if the law wants to attach strings to how you spend a settlement they should put the money in trust they don t so i would assume it s perfectly legitimate to drink it away though i wouldn t spend it that way myself david karr karr cs cornell edu
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re fortune guzzler barred from bars david karr on the tue apr gmt wibbled in article c qtvl m dartvax dartmouth edu russell p hughes dartmouth edu knicker twister writes in article apr bnr ca npet bnr ca nick pettefar writes with regards to the pub brawl he might have a history of such things just because he was a biker doesn t make him out to be a reasonable person even the dod might object to him joining who knows if he had a history of such things why was it not mentioned in the article and why did they present the irrelevant detail of where he got his drinking money from i can t say exactly who is at fault here but from where i sit is looks like we re seeing the results either of the law going way out of hand or of shoddy journalism if the law wants to attach strings to how you spend a settlement they should put the money in trust they don t so i would assume it s perfectly legitimate to drink it away though i wouldn t spend it that way myself david karr karr cs cornell edu we heard about this from a newspaper article journalists and editors always pick out the most interesting and sensational facts for our delectation as the editor of the sun once said we never let the facts get in the way of a good story you must have noticed how motorcyclists get treated by the press they thrive on hysteria ignorance sensationalism and one upmanship unfortunately there s not enough salt to keep taking a pinch of nick the cynical old biker dod concise oxford leaky new gearbox m lud nick pettefar contractor large teneo tuus intervallum cuurrently incarcerated at bnr o o npet bnr ca bmw k rs kay maidenhead the united kingdom o pres pbwasoh uk bs ask not for whom the bell tolls it tolls for you it s time to get up
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re so that s where the oil in my k went tim intrepid gsfc nasa gov tim seiss writes just wanted to say thanks to everyone who sent me e mail or posted a reply to my question on the oil consumption in my k s so what did you decide joe senner joe rider cactus org austin area ride mailing list ride rider cactus org texas splatterfest mailing list fest rider cactus org
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the best of times the worst of times note this is not about the l a or ny times a few times a year a funny thing happens the bike engine runs perfectly completely smooth not that it runs poorly normally but on these days it is exceptional my theory is that the air density and moisture content of the air are such that i get complete combustion needless to say it puts me in a great mood the mood lasted for about miles heading north on the freeway about a mile or two south of the my throttle stopped responding and i was between lanes nothing to do but make my way over lanes to the shoulder initially by gliding then by pushing at least traffic was heavy enough so that cars did not mind stopping for me turned out to be a screw unscrewed inside my mikuni hs carb i keep hearing that one should keep all of the screws tight on a bike but i never thought that i had to do that on the screws inside of a carb at least it was roadside fixable and i was on my way in hardly any time death is life s way of telling you you ve been fired r geis paul blumstein paulb harley tti com dod abate ama hog doh kd laa marc arrl platypus qrp arpci naswa lwca rcma cala transaction technology inc santa monica ca
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re type spesifications cb vfr gt etc vidar olaf solberg vidaros dhhalden no wrote can somebody tell me what all the letter spesifications on motorcycle models really mean example what means the c the b and the r in honda cbr or the v s g l and p in suzuki vs glp honda a v designates a v engine street bike vf for v vt for v twin cb is a street bike with an parallel twin or inline cylinder engine r used to mean race bike but is now also used to mean sport bike cl was for the old steet scramblers street bikes with high pipes cm was a custom street bike cr is dirt only two strokes xl is dual purpose bike xr was dirt only four stroke but now can be a dual purpose bike if it has an l as a suffix gl is a touring bike frank ball ur m frankb sad hp com work hewlett packard fax home valley house drive it xt seca f pl rohnert park ca kc wug law ama dod i m the nra
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re hell mets in article apr freenet carleton ca aa freenet carleton ca lloyd carr writes in a previous article maven mavenry altcit eskimo com norman hamer says if i don t end up replacing it in the real near future would i do better to wear my totally nondamaged face dot rated cheapie which doesn t fit as well or keep out the wind as well or wearing the shoei rf which is a lot more comfortable keeps the wind out better is quieter but might have some minor damage wear the rf even after a few drops paint chips it is far better than no helmet or a poorly fitting one i ve had many scratches bangs which have been repaired plus i m still confident of the protection the helmet will continue to give me only when you actually see depressions or actual cracks using a magnifying glass should you consider replacement this is not good advice a couple of years i was involved in a low speed getoff in which i landed on my back on the pavement my head helmeted hit the pavement with a clunk leaving a couple of dings and chips in the paint at the point of impact but no other visible damage i called the helmet manufacturer and inquired about damage they said that the way a fiberglass shell works is to first give then delaminate then crack this is the way fiberglass serves to spread the force of the impact over a wider area after the fiberglass has done its thing the crushable foam liner takes care of absorbing hopefully the remaining impact force they told me that the second stage of fiberglass functionality delamination of the glass resin layers can occur with no visible signs either inside or outside of the helmet they suggested that i send them the helmet and they would inspect it including x raying i did so they sent back the helmet with a letter stating that that they could find no damage that would compromise the ability of the helmet to provide maximum protection i suspect that this letter would eliminate their being able to claim prior damage to the helmet in the event i were to sue them the bottom line though is that it appears that a helmets integrity can be compromised with no visible signs the only way to know for sure is to send it back and have it inspected note that some helmet manufacturers provide inspections services and some do not another point to consider when purchasing a lid ken franklin they say there s a heaven for people who wait ama and some say it s better but i say it ain t gwrra i d rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints dod the sinners are lots more fun y know only the good die young
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re ok so i was a little hasty in article apr megatek com randy megatek com randy davis writes in article speedy engr latech edu speedy engr latech edu speedy mercer writes in article jnmoyne moustic lbl gov jnmoyne lbl gov jean noel moyne writes what does dwi stand for i thought it was dui for driving under influence so here what does w stand for driving while intoxicated actually i beleive dwi normally means driving while impaired rather than intoxicated at least it does in the states i ve lived in this was changed here in louisiana when a girl went to court and won her case by claiming to be stoned on pot not intoxicated on liquor one can be imparied without necessarily being impaired by liquor drugs not enough sleep being a total moron all can impair someone etc i m surprised this got her off the hook perhaps dwi in lousiana is confined to liquor lets just say it is dui here now dod technician dr speed not student stolen taglines god is real unless declared integer i came i saw i deleted all your files black holes are where god is dividing by zero the world will end in minutes please log out earth is full please delete anyone you can
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header paint it seems the miles of trailering in the rain has rusted my bike s headers the metal underneath is solid but i need to sand off the rust coating and repaint the pipes black any recommendations for paint and application of said paint thanks axel
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re rgv and posing in article dsd es com bgardner pebbles es com blaine gardner writes in article speedy engr latech edu speedy engr latech edu speedy mercer writes in article spam maths adelaide edu au amydlak spam maths adelaide edu au adam mydlak writes squid deleted helment laws vary from state to state in my state louisiana it is the law i personaly would not go feet on a bike without one law or no law a helment will save your life i ll go feet but i draw the line at i ll see your and raise you doug rinckes drinckes tssc wlg nec co jp new zealand tssc ltd bmw r s bmw r indian a
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type spesifications cb vfr gt etc can somebody tell me what all the letter spesifications on motorcycle models really mean example what means the c the b and the r in honda cbr or the v s g l and p in suzuki vs glp i wanna distribute this in our club magazine i want lists of all types but i already knows about harley thanks in advance vidar vidar o solberg norway rock hard ride free we are the proud the few and the true metallibashers
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re honda cb f for sale i wanted to let people know that this motorcycle has been sold thanks for your inquiries dave schultz
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re boom dog attack several years ago while driving a cage a dog darted out at a quiet intersection right in front of me but there was enough distance between us so i didn t have to slow down however a nd dog suddenly appeared and collided with my right front bumper and the force of the impact was enough to kill that scottish terrier apparently it was following the st dog henceforth if a dog decides to cross the street keep an eye out for a nd dog as many dogs like to travel in pairs or packs i ve yet to experience a dog chasing me on my black gl i which has a pretty loud oem horn not as good as fiamms but good enuff but the bike is large and heavy enough to run right over one of the smaller nippers while the larger ones would have trouble getting my leg between the saddlebags and engine guards i d def feel more vulnerable on my trump as that d be easier leg chewing target for those mongrels if there s a persistent dog running after bikers despite complaints to the owner i wouldn t be adverse to running over it with my truck as a dogs life isn t worth much imho compared to a child riding a bike who gets knocked to the ground by said dog and dies from a head injury any dog in the neighborhood that s vicious or a public menace running about unleashed is fair game as road kill candidate graeme harrison gharriso hpcc corp hp com dod
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help which bikes are short help i ve got a friend shopping for her first motorcycle this is great unfortunately she needs at most a seat this is not great so far the only thing we ve found was an old and unhappy looking kz so it s time to tap the collective memory of all the denizens out there anybody know of models old models and used bikes are not a problem with a or lower seat and since she has to make this difficult she would prefer not to end up with a cruiser so there s bonus points for listing tiny standards i seem to remember a thread with a point similar to this passing through several months ago did anybody keep that list thanks gregory bean dod bean ncar ucar edu in fact everything s got that big reverb sound
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re cb c with flames out the exhaust from article c quw btq ux cso uiuc edu by mikeh ux cso uiuc edu mike hollyman hi i have an cb custom that i just replaced the cylinder head gasket on now when i put it back together again it wouldn t idle at all it was only running on cylinders and it would backfire and spit flames out the exhaust on the right side the exhaust is mac i bought new plugs today and it runs very rough and still won t idle i am quite sure the fine tune knobs on the carbs are messed up i checked the timing it was fine so i advanced it a little and that didn t help i assume the carbs need to be synched can i buy a kit and do this myself if so what kit is the best for the price any other suggestions i dont think its the carbs that are out i would suspect that the cam timing is out as you say that you had the head off that would make sense to me ian just my emu s worth ian deeley whatever you do will be school of engineering insignificant but its very university of sussex ooo important that you do it england anon
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re extraordinary footpeg engineering in a previous article exb csdvax csd unsw edu au says okay dod ers here s a goddamn mystery for ya today i was turning a degree corner just like on any other day but there was a slight difference a rough spot right in my path caused the suspension to compress in mid corner and some part of the bike hit the ground with a very tangible thunk i pulled over at first opportunity to sus out the damage some deleted barry manor dod confused accidental peg scraper check the bottom of your pipes barry suspect that is what may have hit i did the same a few years past thought it was the peg but found the bottom of my pipe has made contact showed a good sized dent scratch believe you d feel the suddent change on your foot if the peg had bumped as for the piece missing contribute that to vibration loss yep the same thing happened to me on my old honda twinstar mike maser dod squid rating pinetree rd sidney b c can hopalonga twinfart yuka yuka excess v l j wish list tridump mucho guzler burley home thumpison or bimotamoeba work mmaser sirius uvic ca joke of the month what did the gay say to the university of victoria indian chief news rec motorcycles answer can i bum a couple bucks
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re ok so i was a little hasty in article speedy engr latech edu speedy engr latech edu speedy mercer writes in article jnmoyne moustic lbl gov jnmoyne lbl gov jean noel moyne writes what does dwi stand for i thought it was dui for driving under influence so here what does w stand for driving while intoxicated actually i beleive dwi normally means driving while impaired rather than intoxicated at least it does in the states i ve lived in this was changed here in louisiana when a girl went to court and won her case by claiming to be stoned on pot not intoxicated on liquor one can be imparied without necessarily being impaired by liquor drugs not enough sleep being a total moron all can impair someone etc i m surprised this got her off the hook perhaps dwi in lousiana is confined to liquor randy davis email randy megatek com zx pilot uunet ucsd megatek randy dod but this one goes to eleven nigel tufnel spinal tap
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looking for movies w bikes folks i am assembling info for a film criticism class final project essentially i need any all movies that use motos in any substantial capacity ie fallen angles t h d the marlboro man raising arizona etc any help you fellow r m ers could give me would be much preciated btw a summary of bike s or plot is helpful but not necessary thanx erc c eric sundheim csundh ursa calvin edu grandrapids mi usa hondo vfr f dod
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traffic morons nmm from nielsmm imv aau dk niels mikkel michelsen nmm subject how to act in front of traffic jerks nmm the other day it was raining cats and dogs therefor i was going only to nmm the speed limit on nothing more on my bike this guy in his bmw was nmm driving meters behind me for meters and at the next red light i nmm calmly put the bike on its leg walked back to this car he rolled down the nmm window and i told him he was a total idiot and the reason why nmm did i do the right thing nmm yours truly nmm niels mikkel well sounds great to me when i have a real bdi cager tailgating me i ve found that an effective strategy is to flash my brake light by pumping the pedal you will obviously need a bit of free play in your brake pedal to do this it seems that even the most brain dead idiot can usually discern that a flashing red light directly in front of him her it may mean that something is wrong the two problems i d see with your strategy is that the red light may change before you can get anything meaningful out of your mouth or the occupant s may take exception to your opinions and demonstrate such physically on you or your now parked bike admittedly the latter is a slim chance but it would be enough to give me pause slmr a sometimes you get to be the windshield sometimes the bug computer dynamics bbs hst v vancouver bc canada easy access low rates friendly sysop
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new to motorcycles hello everyone i m new to motorcycles so no flames please i don t have my bike yet so i need a few pieces of information i only have about to work with so that would have to cover everything bike helmet anything else that i m too ignorant to know i need to buy what is buying a bike going to do to my insurance i turn in about a month so my parents have been taking care of my insurance up till now and i need a comprehensive list of costs that buying a motorcycle is going to insure i live in washington dc if that makes a difference any recommendations on what i should buy where i should look for it in dc as i imagine it is in every other state ok ok we re not a state we re not bitter you take the written test first and then get a learners permit however i m wondering how one goes about learning to ride the bike proficiently enough so as to a get a liscence and b not kill oneself i don t know anyone with a bike who could teach me and the most advice i ve heard is either do you live near a field or do you have a friend with a pickup truck the answers to both of which are no do i just ride around my neighborhood and hope for the best i kind of live in a residential area but it s not suburbs it s still the big city and i m about a mile from downtown so that doesn t seem too viable any stories on how you all learned thanks for any replies in advance greg humphreys wq meant to do that damn autoindent greg humphreys this must be thursday i never national institutes of health could get the hang of thursdays gregh alw nih gov arthur dent
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re happy easter in article qt jo fj vtserf cc vt edu ranck joesbar cc vt edu wm l ranck writes hey i wasn t picking on morgan they use old technology that s all i said there s nothing wrong with using old technology people still use shovels to dig holes well you really can t dig a hole with a stock shovel you at least need some performance mods like stroking and cams besides it s real bad on the rear tire dave svoboda svoboda void rtsg mot com i m getting tired of concours mmmmmmmmmm beating you up dave rz ring ding woops you never learn ama dod cog chicago beth bruiser dixon
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re happy easter in article apr i isc com jeq lachman com jonathan e quist writes in article tekgen bv tek com davet interceptor cds tek com dave tharp cds writes in article apr i isc com jeq lachman com jonathan e quist writes rolls royce owned by a non british firm ye gods that would be the end of civilization as we know it why not ford owns aston martin and jaguar general motors owns lotus and vauxhall rover is only owned by honda yes it s a minor blasphemy that u s companies would on the likes of a m jaguar or sob lotus it s outright sacrilege for rr to have non british ownership it s a fundamental thing i think there is a legal clause in the rr name regardless of who owns it it must be a british company owner i e ba can sell the company but not the name kevinh hasler ascom ch
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dod books anyone around here read this yet does anita have a number title software measurement for dod systems recommendations for initial core measures anita d carleton et al subject software engineering computer programming management author carleton anita d author carnegie mellon university software engineering institute publ pittsburgh pa carnegie mellon university software engineering institute p tony these opinions are nothing but my own and i may not even want them antonio salerno the heart the liver the spleen the pancreas all antonio j salerno att com these miraculous organs work in total darkness david letterman
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re motorcycle detailing tip in article apr hemlock cray com ant palm cray com tony jones writes a note to users of plexi fairings if the light hits some of these just right they become a giant magnifing glass and will melt a hole in your guage pod dod technician dr speed not student stolen taglines god is real unless declared integer i came i saw i deleted all your files black holes are where god is dividing by zero the world will end in minutes please log out earth is full please delete anyone you can
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re ggrrrrrr cages double parking motorc an apartment complex where i used to live tried this only they put the thing over the driver s window so they couldn t miss it a friend damned near wrecked on the way home one night her vision blocked by the sticker i suggested to the manager the enormous liability they were assuming by pulling that stunt she claimed it was the driver who was at fault for illegally parking in the first place that would probably be good for a laugh or two in court before they found her liable for serious seems to me that the driver was driving the vehicle visually impaired isn t that like not scraping ice and snow off your windshield and such say that s another thing that bugs me why don t people scrape their damn windows i ve seen people driving cars with barely the driver s half of the windshield cleared nothing else cleared this seems pretty stupid and isn t there something probably varies state to state that says a certain percentage of the glass must be clear oh well brad thone systems consultant systems service enterprises st louis mo c bt wuvmd wustl edu c bt wuvmd bitnet
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re fortune guzzler barred from bars in article apr reed edu mblock reed edu matt block writes assuming david didn t know that it can be done one legged i too would in new orleans la there was a company making motorcycles for wheelchair bound people the rig consists of a flat bed sidecar rig that the wheelchair can be clamped to the car has a set of hand controls mounted on conventional handlebars looks wierd as hell to see this legless guy driving the rig from the car while his girlfriend sits on the bike as a passenger dod technician dr speed not student stolen taglines god is real unless declared integer i came i saw i deleted all your files black holes are where god is dividing by zero the world will end in minutes please log out earth is full please delete anyone you can
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re countersteering faq please post in article mjs zen sys uea ac uk mjs sys uea ac uk mike sixsmith writes formal training is in my view absolutely essential if you re going to be able to ride a bike properly and safely but by including countersteering theory in newbie courses we are confusing people unnecessarily right at the time when there are far more important matters for them to learn and that was my original point mike while i agree with you on that formal training is essential for safe riding i disagree strongly with your original point the point of formal training must be to prepare riders for the road preparedness is in my opinion to know as much as possible so to exclude some aspects of riding a bike in a course is wrong imho now to countersteering in particular countersteering is something that must be trained a common reaction among new bikers or bicycle riders in an emergency situation is to steer the motorcycle like a bicycle as we know this makes the motorcycle go in the direction opposite to what was intended needless to say this is dangerous i have a specific example a rider in a left turn the rider thinks he she is to close to the right shoulder of the road and tries to steer the motorcycle to the left by pulling the left handle and pushing the right handle the motorcycle straightens up and goes off the road a worse scenario the same rider same turn in the middle of the turn the rider sees a truck coming towards him her the panicking rider tries to steer the motorcycle away from the truck and crashes right into it the main function of a riding course is to teach how to avoid emergency situations and what to do if in one thus the knowledge and training of countersteering is imho a must in any riding course staal idt unit no
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re help which bikes are short in rec motorcycles bean ra cgd ucar edu gregory bean writes help i ve got a friend shopping for her first motorcycle this is great unfortunately she needs at most a seat this is not great so far the only thing we ve found was an old and unhappy looking kz i had a kz and thought it was the best bike i ve ever ridden and mind you i ve ridden many bikes i seem to remember a thread with a point similar to this passing through several months ago did anybody keep that list you must be mistaken no thread in this group has ever had a point seriously there are many short bikes out there what style bike and how much money does she have my so is and rides her cb or my hawk gt with ease most cruisers are low slung ysr s are real short too rich sturges h nswc carderock division w i speak for no one else and listen to the same
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re insurance and lotsa points cjackson curtis jackson cjackson adobe com writes cjackson i am very glad to know that none of you judgemental little shits has cjackson ridden driven when too tired sleepy hungover angry or distracted cjackson in the last years why if you had then you might be just as guilty some of us not so judgmental little shits don t drive ride when we re impaired i stopped doing that sort of thing when a good friend of mine got killed by a drunk driver who failed to stop for a red and drove through the side of her volvo in his caddy then again i suspect most of the responsible adults on the net don t bother posting in flame wars on rec moto cjackson there is no justification for taking away individuals freedom cjackson in the guise of public safety thomas jefferson he also owned slaves kept some as forced concubines and had enough resources to do what he wanted without fear of reprisal then again he also smoked dope jet netcom com j eric townsend r r dod hafta kill you this is my fun account work email goes to jet nas nasa gov you got to put down the ducky if you wanna play saxophone skate unix or die boyo
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shaft drives and wheelies is it possible to do a wheelie on a motorcycle with shaft drive mike terry virago
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re type spesifications cb vfr gt etc in article c sk d c p srgenprp sr hp com frankb sad hp com frank ball writes honda a v designates a v engine street bike vf for v vt for v twin so how about my honda hawk nt it s a twin but not called a vt curtis jackson cjackson mv us adobe com hawk gt maxim dod kotb black lab mix studley doright collie golden george there is no justification for taking away individuals freedom in the guise of public safety thomas jefferson
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re more moa stuff like the ra from what i ve seen in my years as an moa member most of the folks in the ra are also in the moa i guess it s called covering all the bases to get some idea of what is really happening how else does one think the ra gets all the juicey news about what s happen inside the moa nihilism isn t for everyone not that it really matters craig vechorik bmw moa ambassador and ya i finally sent my bucks into the ra too real bmw s have two wheels politically correct statement dod
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electricty sigha trying to figure out a way to put a halogen beam on my cb t are there any easy ways to do this i e a slip in bulb replacement was told by a guy at the bike shop that my not damn near bright enough incandescent beam might be caused by a perma low battery so i went and picked up this cheapo motorcycle battery and charging system tester hook it up to the battery it s got lights on very good charge start the engine to test the charging system and it doesn t even register it s supposed to light or lights if everything is ok but it stays down at the same point as just the battery my question here is if indeed my charging system is just plain messed up how the heck is the battery staying fully charged i d think it would be darned near dead from supporting my lights etc do the cb t s have a problem with their charging system are they just generally slower charging than what is normal for bigger bikes is there an easy fix for this happy noise put miles on my bike this weekend finally got myass an endorsement which is really good because my cage just quit running worth a damn and i won t have money to repair it until the first and the weatherman says bright and sunny all week chance of rain on friday big grin bugs in teeth
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good reasons to wave at each other one of those morning just getting the coffee in me thoughts waving at other bikers makes more sense than just hey how s it going nice to meet you on the road have a good ride if you re watching for other bikes to wave to it means your attention is on the road where it should be and you re more likely to see cages it keeps you in the habit of watching really carefully for bikes when you re in a cage this is a good thing
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re happy easter kevinh on the tue apr gmt wibbled in article apr i isc com jeq lachman com jonathan e quist writes in article tekgen bv tek com davet interceptor cds tek com dave tharp cds writes in article apr i isc com jeq lachman com jonathan e quist writes rolls royce owned by a non british firm ye gods that would be the end of civilization as we know it why not ford owns aston martin and jaguar general motors owns lotus and vauxhall rover is only owned by honda yes it s a minor blasphemy that u s companies would on the likes of a m jaguar or sob lotus it s outright sacrilege for rr to have non british ownership it s a fundamental thing i think there is a legal clause in the rr name regardless of who owns it it must be a british company owner i e ba can sell the company but not the name kevinh hasler ascom ch i don t believe that ba have anything to do with rr it s a seperate company from the rr aero engine company i think that the government own a stake unfortunately they owned a stake of jaguar too until they decided to make a quick buck and sold it to ford bastards this is definitely the ultimate arthur daley government nick the cynical biker dod concise oxford leaky gearbox m lud nick pettefar contractor large teneo tuus intervallum cuurrently incarcerated at bnr o o npet bnr ca bmw k rs kay maidenhead the united kingdom o pres pbwasoh uk bs
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re the best of times the worst of times in apr ttinews tti com paulb harley tti com paul blumstein writes note this is not about the l a or ny times turned out to be a screw unscrewed inside my mikuni hs carb i keep hearing that one should keep all of the screws tight on a bike but i never thought that i had to do that on the screws inside of a carb at least it was roadside fixable and i was on my way in hardly any time you better check all the screws in that carb before you suck one into a jug and munge a piston or valve i ve seen it happen before matthew
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cobra locks i was posting to alt locksmithing about the best methods for securing a motorcycle i got several responses referring to the cobra lock described below has anyone come across a store carrying this lock in the chicago area any other feedback from someone who has used this thanks for any info steve in article r innraj shelley u washington edu basiji stein u washington edu david basiji writes incidentally the best lock i ve found for bikes is the cobra lock it s a cable which is shrouded by an articulated hardened steel sleeve the lock itself is cylindrical and the locking pawl engages the joints at the articulation points so the chain can be adjusted like handcuffs you can t get any leverage on the lock to break it open and the cylinder is well protected i wouldn t want to cut one of these without a torch and or a vice and heavy duty cutting wheel steve bunis sun microsystems dod st itasca il ama kz
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so do any xxxx i mean police officers read this stuff i was just wondering if there were any law officers that read this i have several questions i would like to ask pertaining to motorcycles and cops and please don t say get a vehicle code go to your local station or obvious things like that my questions would not be found in those places nor answered face to face with a real live in the flesh cop if your brother had a friend who had a cousin whos father was a cop etc don t bother writing in thanks
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re looking for movies w bikes in article csundh ursa csundh ursa calvin edu charles sundheim writes folks i am assembling info for a film criticism class final project essentially i need any all movies that use motos in any substantial capacity ie fallen angles t h d the marlboro man raising arizona etc any help you fellow r m ers could give me would be much preciated btw a summary of bike s or plot is helpful but not necessary easy rider harleys drugs rednecks new orleans mad max violence dod wanna be s time rider honda thumper time travel on any sunday documentary about dirtbike racers great the great escape steve mcqueen nazis rebel without a cause james dean future dod ers i think the last two are right they are old movies i haven t seen in years dod technician dr speed not student stolen taglines god is real unless declared integer i came i saw i deleted all your files black holes are where god is dividing by zero the world will end in minutes please log out earth is full please delete anyone you can
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re so do any xxxx i mean police officers read this stuff in article apr iscnvx lmsc lockheed com jrlaf sgi msd lmsc lockheed com j r laferriere writes i was just wondering if there were any law officers that read this i have several questions i would like to ask pertaining to motorcycles and cops and please don t say get a vehicle code go to your local station or obvious things like that my questions would not be found in those places nor answered face to face with a real live in the flesh cop if your brother had a friend who had a cousin whos father was a cop etc don t bother writing in thanks i just gotta ask what are these questions you want to ask an active cop working on your dod qualfications b dod technician dr speed not student stolen taglines god is real unless declared integer i came i saw i deleted all your files black holes are where god is dividing by zero the world will end in minutes please log out earth is full please delete anyone you can
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re route suggestions in article qmm dinnnlg cronkite central sun com doc webrider central sun com steve bunis chicago writes e i i e after this point the route is presently undetermined into pennsylvania new york and back to chicago by suggestions if you do make it into new york state the palisades interstate parkway is a pleasant ride beautiful scenery good road surface minimal traffic you may also want to take a sidetrip along seven lakes drive just off the parkway for the same reasons plus the road sweeps up and down along the hills with sweeping turns under old forest canopy mitch corrado bell communications research dec mdc panther tnds bellcore com wreck mad vax the code warrior
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re new to motorcycles in article apr alw nih gov gregh niagara dcrt nih gov gregory humphreys writes hello everyone i m new to motorcycles so no flames please i don t have my bike yet so i need a few pieces of information any stories on how you all learned i ll tell you my story as an example of what not to do early in i took some riding lessons from my college roommate on his old honda cb t he had taken the msf beginner s course so i actually learned some of what i needed to know to ride i proceeded to buy a beat up honda cl for and a helmet and rode around wearing this and a cotton windbreaker then i decided to invest in a full face helmet first smart move sometime around then i also passed my road test on may i got caught in a rainstorm on my way home from a mile trip entering the town where i lived a rather urban suburb i had to stop suddenly for a red light that i noticed too late skidded the rear tire out and was ejected face upward into the oncoming lane of traffic fortunately for me the oncoming traffic was also stopped for the same red light otherwise i might have slid under a car and been killed now this is anecdotal evidence to be sure but i later took the experienced rider course from the msf and saw that earlier training could have helped me greatly in your case the need is even greater since you have nobody to help you practice even the most basic stuff as i did so my advice is to take the msf beginner s course first thing i wouldn t even buy a bike until you ve taken the course unless you happen to pick up a real good deal and can store it someplace until you re ready to use it i only have about to work with so that would have to cover everything bike helmet anything else that i m too ignorant to know i need to buy while you re waiting to take the course it might take a few weeks in dc as i recall there were always waiting lists in boston could you save up some more money to start out right say for riding gear plus the cost bike plus maybe guess to a mechanic to make sure the machine is safe assuming you economize by buying some old beat up machine from a private individual plus insurance plus registration and licensing fees plus the course you re looking at maybe not including the bike itself and a reserve for ongoing maintenance what is buying a bike going to do to my insurance i turn in about a month so my parents have been taking care of my insurance up till now and i need a comprehensive list of costs that buying a motorcycle is going to insure i live in washington dc if that makes a difference i pay about insurance now upstate ny but it was closer to in boston more urban for decent insurance including substantial coverage for liability which you want unless you plan always to be poor i d guess dc is more like boston than like a rural area ergo more expensive any recommendations on what i should buy where i should look for it there used to be annual buyer s guides in the usual motorcycle magazines i found those helpful in getting an idea of what new or recent models might be available you could probably look through past issues to size up what used bikes might be available my first bike was years old when i bought it so i went on my friend s advice instead also look at the bikes that you see people riding or that are parked on the street i basically settled on my present bike by noticing that there were a lot of high mileage bmw s running around and they were generally set up the way i wanted nothing wrong with talking to various dealers in your area or visiting showrooms dealers in the boston area at least when i was shopping were very nice about letting you look around their showrooms and quoting prices for bikes that weren t the latest models hence cheaper although i ended up buying both bikes in private sales david karr karr cs cornell edu bmw r dod also bmwmoa nra aclu et al
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re help which bikes are short in article apr ncar ucar edu bean ra cgd ucar edu gregory bean writes help i ve got a friend shopping for her first motorcycle this is great unfortunately she needs at most a seat this is not great so far the only thing we ve found was an old and unhappy looking kz look for a happier looking kz suzuki used to have an l designation for example my former boss had a gs l which had a seat a couple inches lower than the regular gs but it was certainly no cruiser david karr karr cs cornell edu bmw r dod also bmwmoa nra aclu et al
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re bike for sale in ma usa in article apr zorro tyngsboro ma us jd zorro tyngsboro ma us jeff derienzo writes i ve recently become father of twins i don t think i can afford to keep bikes and babies both babies are staying so of the harleys is going xlhd mi hey it was my wife s bike well that was pretty uncalled for no smile is our harley manhood feeling challenged jeff derienzo this is where i wanna sit and buy you a drink someday temple of the dog sea bass sears scs cunixb cc columbia edu dod stanley id yamaha xs f bmw r s toyota runner nyc ny
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msf program where could someone mail me the archive location of the msf program for an ibm right thanks this is where i wanna sit and buy you a drink someday temple of the dog sea bass sears scs cunixb cc columbia edu dod stanley id yamaha xs f bmw r s toyota runner nyc ny
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re story lynn pacesetter com lynn e hall writes allowed yes there is a god no open containers on the street was the signs in the bars yeah right the or so cops on hand for the couple of thousand of bikers in a block main street were not citing anyone the street was filled with empty cans at least feet deep in the gutter the crowd was raisin hell tittie shows everywhere can you say party and still we wonder why they stereotype us erc whacha mean we ifin they whom ever they are want to stereotype me as one that likes to drink beer and watch lovely ladies display their beautiful bodies i like that stereotype if you were refering stereotype to infer a negative you noticed we didn t rape pillage or burn down the town we also left mucho bucks as in money with the town me thinks the town likes us least they said so lynn hall nos bros
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re traffic morons in article c shd lh athena cs uga edu ahatcher athena cs uga edu allan hatcher wrote you can t make a citizens arrest on anything but a felony i m not sure that s true let me rephrase you can file a complaint which will bring the person into court as i understand it a citizens arrest does not have to be the physical detention of the person better now john stafford minnesota state university winona all standard disclaimers apply
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re bmw moa members read this from article c px n kw murdoch acc virginia edu by cdw t dayhoff med virginia edu dances with federal rangers in article rider uucp joe rider cactus org writes cdw t dayhoff med virginia edu dances with federal rangers writes i m going to buy a bmw just to cast a vote for groucho i thought you were gonna buy a bmw for its superior power and handling yes but the i was just a tad out of my price range obmotowashing is it just me or does everyone cut their finger s on the evil cotterpin tm lurking somewhere in the dark recesses of the back end of the bike when giving the prized moto a bath i seem to slice the pinkie of one hand or the other every time both of them this time ride safe send me your old moa rags y all cliff weston dod seca ii i thought it might be cool to have the whole bike done in powder coat like maybe a black undercoat with neon splatter or something brian w simmons it s you beemers have no ec tm jeff campbell n wxs r frog sarvax cmhnet org
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re shaft drives and wheelies in article r ja dpa news ysu edu ak yfn ysu edu john r daker wrote in a previous article xlyx vax cit cornell edu says mike terry asks is it possible to do a wheelie on a motorcycle with shaft drive no mike it is imposible due to the shaft effect the centripital effects of the rotating shaft counteract any tendency for the front wheel to lift off the ground this is true as evinced by the popularity of shaft drive drag bikes john stafford minnesota state university winona all standard disclaimers apply
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re cobra locks in article r b rinnale cronkite central sun com doc webrider central sun com writes i was posting to alt locksmithing about the best methods for securing a motorcycle i got several responses referring to the cobra lock described below has anyone come across a store carrying this lock in the chicago area it is available through some dealerships who in turn have to back order it from the manufacturer directly each one is made to order at least if you get a nonstandard length standard is i believe any other feedback from someone who has used this see below in article r innraj shelley u washington edu basiji stein u washington edu david basiji writes incidentally the best lock i ve found for bikes is the cobra lock it s a cable which is shrouded by an articulated hardened steel sleeve the lock itself is cylindrical and the locking pawl engages the joints at the articulation points so the chain can be adjusted like handcuffs you can t get any leverage on the lock to break it open and the cylinder is well protected i wouldn t want to cut one of these without a torch and or a vice and heavy duty cutting wheel i have a long cobralinks lock that i used to use for my harley she doesn t get out much anymore so i don t use the lock that often anymore it is made of articulated steel shells covering seven strands of steel cable it is probably enough to stop all the joyriders but unfortunately professionals can open it rather easily freeze a link break frozen link with your favorite method hammers work well snip through the steel cables which i have on authority are frightfully thin with a set of boltcutters for the same money you can get a kryptonite cable lock which is anywhere from to thick steel cable looks like steel rope shielded in a flexible covering to protect your bike s finish and has a barrel type locking mechanism i don t know if it s adjustable but my source says it s more difficult to pick than most locks and the cable tends to squish flat in bolt cutter jaws rather than shear model all bets are off if the thief has a die grinder with a cutoff wheel even the most durable locks tested yield to this tool in less than one minute fyi i ll be getting a krypto cable next paycheck later chris behanna dod h d fxwg wide glide jubilee s red lady behanna syl nj nec com cb t baby bike disclaimer now why would nec zx needs a name agree with any of this anyway i was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs
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re a point for helmet law is a point for mc b in article prcrs prc com terry prcrs prc com terry cunningham writes i know of no law either on the books or proposed that bans motorcycles from any place that i want to go to many private places ban bikes for example the famous mile drive at the monterrey peninsula and i have stayed at resorts that sported a no motorcycles allowed sign at the entrance and there have been public places call the ama and ask for jim bensberg sp or any one else in their legislative office they will recound the many public places that they had to bring to court to reverse their ban on bikes that includes everything from public parks to full cities there are probably a few fights on their books as we now speak that is another good reason to donate to their legislative fund death is life s way of telling you you ve been fired r geis paul blumstein paulb harley tti com dod abate ama hog doh kd laa marc arrl platypus qrp arpci naswa lwca rcma cala transaction technology inc santa monica ca
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re cobra locks you may find it useful this is a repost the original sender is at the bottom cut here article of rec motorcycles path scrumpy bnrgate corpgate news utdallas edu hermes chpc utexas edu cs ute exas edu swrinde mips pacbell com iggy gw vitalink com widener eff ibmpc cug pipex unipalm uknet cf cm cybaswan eeharvey from eeharvey cybaswan uucp i t harvey newsgroups rec motorcycles subject re best way to lock a bike message id cybaswan uucp date jul gmt references jul usenet ins cwru edu lines these are the figures from the performance bikes lock test taken without permission of course the price is for comparison all the cable locks have some sort of armour the chain locks are padlock and chain each lock was tested for a maximum of ten minutes secs for each test bj bottle jack cd cutting disc bc bolt croppers gas gas flame the table should really be split into immoblisers for a while and lock to somethings for a short while to make comparisons type weight bj cd bc gas total price kg sec sec sec sec sec pounds arm folding cyclelok bar abus steel o cable flex oxford cable revolver abus diskus chain arm folding cyclelok bar abus extra u lock cobra cable ft abus closed chain shackle kryptonite u lock k oxford u lock magnum disclock disc n a n a lock abus hb u lock mini block disc n a n a lock pretty depressing reading i think a good lock and some common sense about where and when you park your bike is the only answer i ve spent all my spare time over the last two weeks landscaping trashing the garden of my and two friends with bikes new house to accommodate our three bikes in relative security never underestimate how much room a bike requires to manouver in a walled area anyway since the weekend there are only two bikes and no he didn t use his abus closed shackle lock it was too much hassle to take with him when visiting his parents a minimum wait of weeks if they don t decide to investigate for the insurance company to make an offer and for the real haggling to begin abus are a german company and it would seem not well represented in the us but very common in the uk the uk distributor given in the above article is michael brandon ltd oliver crescent hawick roxburgh td bj tel the uk distributors for the other locks can also given if required don t lose it ian ian harvey university college swansea too old to rock n roll eeharvey uk ac swan pyr too young to die gs e
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countersteering sans hands so how do i steer when my hands aren t on the bars open budweiser in left hand camel cigarette in the right no feet allowed if i lean and the bike turns am i countersteering is countersteering like benchracing only with a taller seat so your feet aren t on the floor rick
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re shaft drives and wheelies in article apr vax cit cornell edu xlyx vax cit cornell edu writes is it possible to do a wheelie on a motorcycle with shaft drive mike terry no at least that s what i told the nasa rent a cop that stopped me because he swore i was lifting it up he didn t completely buy the part about water in the carbs either phil stone new address pstone well sf ca us r st motorcycles ok
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re route suggestions in article apr porthos cc bellcore com mdc pyuxe cc bellcore com corrado mitchell writes in article qmm dinnnlg cronkite central sun com doc webrider central sun com steve bunis chicago writes e i i e after this point the route is presently undetermined into pennsylvania new york and back to chicago by suggestions if you do make it into new york state the palisades interstate parkway is a pleasant ride beautiful scenery good road surface minimal traffic you been a while since you hit the pip the pavement at least until around exit is for sh t these days i think it must have taken a beating this winter because i don t remember it being this bad it s all breaking apart and there are some serious potholes now of course there are also the storm drains that are in your lane as opposed to on the side of the road talk about annoying cost saving measures as for traffic don t try it around on weekdays outbound rush hour happens inbound too as there are many bdc s mitch corrado dec mdc panther tnds bellcore com this is where i wanna sit and buy you a drink someday temple of the dog sea bass sears scs cunixb cc columbia edu dod stanley id yamaha xs f bmw r s toyota runner nyc ny
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re hell mets in article mavenry altcit eskimo com maven mavenry altcit eskimo com norman hamer writes having talked to a couple people about helmets dropping i m getting about don t sweat it you might think about replacing it and the other don t ride with it go without a helmet first is there any way to tell if a helmet is damaged structurally i dropped it about feet to cement off my seat chipped the paint didn t seem to screw up the actual shell i d bet the price of the helmet that it s okay from feet or higher maybe not if i don t end up replacing it in the real near future would i do better to wear my totally nondamaged face dot rated cheapie which doesn t fit as well or keep out the wind as well or wearing the shoei rf which is a lot more comfortable keeps the wind out better is quieter but might have some minor damage i d wear the full facer but then i d be way more worried about wind blast in the face and inability to hear police sirens than the helmet being a little damaged also what would you all reccomend as far as good helmets i m slightly disappointed by how badly the shoei has scratched etc from not being bloody careful about it and how little impact it took to chip the paint and arguably mess it up period looking at a really good full face with good venting wind protection i like the shoei style kinda like the norton one i saw awhile back too but suspect i m going to have to get a much more expensive helmet if i want to not replace it every time i m not being careful where i set it down well my next helmet will be subject to it fitting well an agv sukhoi that s just because i like the looks my current one is a shoei task and it s getting a little old and i crashed in it once a couple of years ago no hard impact to head my hip took care of that if price was a consideration i d get a kiwi k i hear they are both good and cheap christ i don t treat my head as carefully as i treated the shoei as far as tossing it down and i don t have any bruises on it be mildly mildly paranoid about the helmet but don t get carried away there are people on the net like those you mentioned that do not consistently live on our planet regards charles dod rz within the span of the last few weeks i have heard elements of separate threads which in that they have been conjoined in time struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing gourd unknown net person
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re countersteering faq please post in article apr cs cornell edu karr cs cornell edu david karr writes in article mjs zen sys uea ac uk mjs sys uea ac uk mike sixsmith writes no no no no all i am saying is that you don t even need to tell people the technique of countersteering cos they will do it intuitively the first time they try to go round a corner some will and others will steer with their tuchuses i don t know how much the teaching of countersteering in the beginner course really helps the tuchus steerers i was one i guess that i always steered a bicycle that way and i only got the hang of countersteering in normal riding after the course i could do the countersteering swerves in the course no problem but i only started using it in my normal riding when i decided that my turning at speed off ramps and the like was a lot more difficult that it should have been i knew how it works although that s currently up for debate definitely knew that it works as i could do it in swerves but only figured it out later in my normal riding just a data point i think that it s not a bad idea to bring the idea up but it s best to let everyone tuchus steer for the first lesson or two so they can learn to shift gears before they have to worry about proper handlebar technique countersteering in fact my experienced rider course instructors claimed that they could get on behind a new rider and make the bike turn to whichever side they wanted just by shifting their weight around even when the operator was trying to turn in the opposite direction i admit i ve never actually seen this i have in our beginner course we had passenger training sometime during the lesson the instructor would hop on the back of the bike and the student would take him for a ride if the student did not give the instructor the you are a sack of potatoes passenger speech the instructor would steer the bike and make a general nuisance of himself it was amusing to watch i m just happy that it didn t happen to me i ve bike like jody levine dod kv got a you can if you pf jody p levine hydro on ca ride it toronto ontario canada
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re question about helmets in article qmnp inn v mojo eng umd edu oconnor eng umd edu mark o connor writes on the other side of the fence i owned a bieffe off road helmet took what i would consider a minor fall and had visible damage to the shell yes the helmet did its job but the damage impact ratio was scary i own bell moto now have taken impacts on order of twice the bieffe impact we do this frequently in mx and don t even have a scratch on it after two seasons my recommendation is to buy high quality gear ymmv when your helmetted nogin hits an immoveabe object there are only four things to dissipate the energy the immoveable object the helmet shell the helmet liner the rider s head the rider s ego ok five assuming that the helmet head assembly takes the same impact if the shell cracks in one case then in the other the liner must be dented or the head gets jiggled if it s the the liner that s dented the helmet is just as toast as if the shell were cracked it won t absorb energy form an impact in that area if it s the head that s getting jiggled maybe the new gear isn t of as high quality after all i ve bike like jody levine dod kv got a you can if you pf jody p levine hydro on ca ride it toronto ontario canada
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re ok so i was a little hasty in article speedy engr latech edu speedy engr latech edu speedy mercer writes in article jnmoyne moustic lbl gov jnmoyne lbl gov jean noel moyne writes ok hold on a second and clarify something for me what does dwi stand for i thought it was dui for driving under influence so here what does w stand for driving while intoxicated this was changed here in louisiana when a girl went to court and won her case by claiming to be stoned on pot not intoxicated on liquor here it s driving while impaired that about covers everything i ve bike like jody levine dod kv got a you can if you pf jody p levine hydro on ca ride it toronto ontario canada
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re wanted advice for new cylist in article c r ey mq srgenprp sr hp com blaisec sr hp com blaise cirelli writes i m thinking of buying a motorcycle whenever i tell people this i usually get an answer like why do you want to do that my brother sister cousin knows somebody who had a motorcycle and now they are brain dead as a result of an accident so the question i have is how dangerous is riding it s exactly as dangerous as it looks you re hard to see and have little protection keeping out of trouble means knowing your limits keeping your machine in good shape and being able to predict and make up for every stupid move that drivers make out there we deal with it because it s fun but staying alive takes a conscious effort i ve bike like jody levine dod kv got a you can if you pf jody p levine hydro on ca ride it toronto ontario canada
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re insurance and lotsa points in article apr bcars a bnr ca keithh bnr ca keith hanlan writes in article news duke edu infante acpub duke edu andrew infante writes well it looks like i m f cked for insurance i had a dwi in and for the beemer as a rec vehicle it ll cost me almost bucks to insure year now what do i do sell the bike and the car and start taking the bus that way you can keep drinking which seems to be where your priorities lay i expect that enough of us on this list have lost friends because of driving drunks that our collective sympathy will be somewhat muted look guy i doubt anyone here approves of drunk driving but if he s been caught and convicted and punished maybe you ought to lighten up i mean it isn t like most of us haven t had a few and then ridden or driven home we just didn t get caught and i can speak for myself and say it will never happen again but that is beside the point in answer to the original poster i d insure whatever vehicle is cheapest and can get you to and from work and suffer through it for a few years til your rates drop and don t drink and drive i had one friend killed by a drunk and i was rear ended by one totaling my bike bent frame and only failing to kill me because i had an eye on my mirror while i waited at the stoplight regards charles dod rz within the span of the last few weeks i have heard elements of separate threads which in that they have been conjoined in time struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing gourd unknown net person
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re dogs in article c pntm co cbnewsj cb att com car cbnewsj cb att com charles a rogers writes this tactic depends for its effectiveness on the dog s conformance to a psychological norm that may not actually apply to a particular dog i ve tried it with some success before but it won t work on a charlie manson dog or one that s really really stupid a large irish setter taught me this in my yard apparently his territory one day i m sure he was playing a game with me the game was probably kill the very angry neighbor before he can dispense the terrible punishment what a dog weighs lb maybe at max you can t handle it you have i presume thumbs grapple with it and tear it s head off sheesh even a trained attack dog is no match for a human we have all the advantages regards charles dod rz within the span of the last few weeks i have heard elements of separate threads which in that they have been conjoined in time struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing gourd unknown net person
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re shaft drives and wheelies in article stafford stafford winona msus edu stafford vax winona msus edu john stafford writes on apr gmt xlyx vax cit cornell edu said is it possible to do a wheelie on a motorcycle with shaft drive yes but the rear wheel comes off the ground not the front see it just hops into the air figure john stafford sure you can do wheelies with a shaft drive bike i had a bmw r rs that was a wheelie monster of course it didn t have the initial power burst to just twist it into the air i had to pop the clutch i also had to replace front fork seals a few times as well the fairing is a bit heavy to be slamming down onto those little stantion tubes all the time but let me give you fair warning i trashed the ring pinion gear in the final drive of my k i assume doing wheelies and this was no cheap fix either there is some kind of slip device in the shaft to prevent it from breaking unfortunately it didn t save the gears on the topic of wheelies the other day i saw a kid on a big hurricane do a stoppy or rear wheelie man he had the rear end on this bike up about feet off the ground at a traffic light i don t recommend these activities anymore now that i m an old guy with kids of my own but it looked damn impressive if you can t keep both tires on the ground at least have em pointed in that direction cheers b
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re insurance and lotsa points in article apr iscnvx lmsc lockheed com jrlaf sgi msd lmsc lockheed com j r laferriere writes now now keith just calm down what are you some prohibitionist prick the point of andrew infante s posting was obvious to solicit suggestions pertaining to the cost of insurance and the like i don t care if you are madd or sadd or whatever keep it to yourself we d all appreciate that well simply put drinking is irrelavent driving drunk is indefensable and unforgivable there is a large differnece but then with an attitude like yours i expect you ll be dead soon i just hope you don t take a human being out with you dave svoboda svoboda void rtsg mot com i m getting tired of concours mmmmmmmmmm beating you up dave rz ring ding woops you never learn ama dod cog chicago beth bruiser dixon
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re new to motorcycles in article apr adobe com cjackson adobe com curtis jackson writes in article apr alw nih gov gregh niagara dcrt nih gov gregory humphreys writes i only have about to work with so that would have to cover everything bike helmet anything else that i m too ignorant to know i need to buy the following numbers are approximate and will no doubt get me flamed helmet new but cheap jacket used or very cheap gloves nothing special motorcycle safety foundation riding course a must wow courses in georgia are much cheaper for both the list looks good but i d also add heavy boots work hiking combat or similar think peace alan alanf eng tridom com kotbbbb gsxr j ama dod pgp key available
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strange experience hi i t was very nice out yesterday in the burgh so i rode my bike to my gynecologist appointment when he came in to do the exam he noticed my helmet sitting on a chair he got excited and picked it up and started asking all sorts of questions about bikes and dealers in the area and the msf course apparently he rode a friends for a while years ago and recently the bug to ride caught him again needless to say i had never before talked about bikes so much in such a position if ya know what i mean chris hogan ch c andrew cmu edu cb soft as the massacre of suns by evening s sabres slain emily dickinson
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re good reasons to wave at each other in article mavenry altcit eskimo com maven mavenry altcit eskimo com norman hamer writes one of those morning just getting the coffee in me thoughts waving at other bikers makes more sense than just hey how s it going nice to meet you on the road have a good ride if you re watching for other bikes to wave to it means your attention is on the road where it should be and you re more likely to see cages it keeps you in the habit of watching really carefully for bikes when you re in a cage this is a good thing the down side is that when i m in my cage i have on numerous occasions slammed my hand into the rolled up window in an effort to wave at a passing biker ow the beav mike beavington bellnorthernresearch ottawa ont canada dod seca seca rz seca suzuki seca turbo v sabre gts can t afford the mbeaving bnr ca parking spaces we don t need no steenkin parking spaces
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harley davidson mailing list an email taste sensation anyone interesting in a mailing list for harley davidson bikes lifestyle politics h o g and whatever over members from countries make it may subscribe by sending a request to harley request thinkage on ca or uunet ca thinkage harley request your request to join should have a signature or something giving your full email address do not rely on the header from field being useful to me this is not an automated listserv facility do not expect instant gratification the list is a digest format scheduled for twice a day members of the harley list may obtain back issues and subject index listings pictures etc via an email archive server server access is restricted to list subscribers only ftp access real soon other motorcycle related lists i ve heard of not run by me these addresses may or may not be current stroke strokes request microunity com dirt dirt request zygot ati com european listserv frigg isc br com racing race request formula corp sun com digest request formula corp sun com short riding short request smarmy sun com wet leather listserv frigg isc br com it climbs the hills like a matchless cause my honda s built really light brian wilson honda honda
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