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Talk:Spider-Man (Marvel Zombies) - Revision history 2015-06-02T17:53:27Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.15.1 Leperchaun: /* Dead or un-dead? */ 2007-01-01T03:37:22Z <p><span class="autocomment">Dead or un-dead?</span></p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>== Weight explanation ==<br /> <br /> The reason that Spider-Man (Zombie) and Spider-Man (Peter Parker)'s weight are so different is because the zombie had several body parts missing. [[user:sononsj]]<br /> <br /> LOL! ;) --[[User:ComiX-Fan|ComiX-Fan]] 01:47, 16 April 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> But what about all of the eating he did. [[User:marvels|marvels]] 08:35, 20 April 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> True, But isn't he missing half his stomach ? [[User:david andrews|david andrews]] 10:07, 20 April 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Hmmm, I guess the handbook will have to explain everything that is missing from or added to him. [[User:marvels|marvels]] 14:21, 20 April 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == universe ==<br /> <br /> Does this have a universe designation like the other alternate universes?<br /> --[[User:pete|pete]] 09:48, 17 April 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Yep, it's Earth-2149 as per the Alternate Universes Handbook. --[[User:ComiX-Fan|ComiX-Fan]] 09:51, 17 April 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Should we update the universe to Earth-2149, or just leave it as a marvel zombies universe? --[[user:Liqiudviper|Viper]] 12:15, 17 April 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> But, does Spider-Man have the same history, the bio mention Ben Reilly. [[User:marvels|marvels]] 14:24, 17 April 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I created the article and I wondered about that, too. I will delete that. I used Kaine, Ben, ect. because the real Spider-Man had those "relatives". From my understanding, their history is exactly the same up to the zombie incident. However, the books did not state this, which is why I will delete it. [[User:sononsj|sononsj]] 19:17, 17 April 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I recently added the "conversation" from Marvel Zombies #5. What do you guys think? [[User:sononsj|sononsj]] 23:01, 19 April 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Dead or un-dead? ==<br /> <br /> I see that Spider-Man (Zombie) is in the Deceased category but are zombies not un-dead ?<br /> I know this isn't really important but it just bothers me to think if he is classed as un-dead should he be placed in the People who used to be dead but aren't anymore category or was he ever dead ? [[User:david andrews|david andrews]] 00:14, 21 April 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Yes, he is technically un-dead (I even made up a lame joke about it in the discussion pages) but I don't thimk they'd go through the trouble of creating a new category. I know a few people you could talk with if you're serious about a new category. [[User:sononsj|sononsj]] 00:20, 21 April 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> No its ok I just wanted to see if that was right , Maybe they'll create a ZOMBIE category when there are more profiles made on the marvel zombies. [[User:david andrews|david andrews]] 09:08, 21 April 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> If enough zombie bios are created, I'll personally create a category. --[[user:Liqiudviper|Viper]] 15:24, 21 April 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I have been planning to make several for some time, and if that cate-gory (get it, cate-''gory''?) is created, maybe we could put that [[Zombie]] guy in it to, though he wasn't part of the Marvel Zombies series. [[User:sononsj|sononsj]] 15:31, 21 April 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I just created a new [[Venom (Marvel Zombies)]] bio. What do you think? I'll be creating more soon. [[User:sononsj|sononsj]] 20:29, 21 April 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> It's good, I see you've included my beginning (taken in context from zombified Mr. Fantastic himself), anyway, you've put in the bio killer "I", best remove it quickly before the moderators get the scent of fresh meat. --[[user:Liqiudviper|Viper]] 20:56, 21 April 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Uh, I think zombies can be classified as walking dead, so deceased should be ok(it's not a big deal if it has already been changed). [[User:marvels|marvels]] 21:04, 21 April 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> The characters from zombie world have NEVER interacted with the Earth-616 characters. If the Ultimate universe characters aren't placed in the main categories why would you put the MArvel Zombies characters there??? Where's the logic???? The Zombies have their own category, that is enough until they expand outside of it, isn't it??? -- [[User:IRISH4869|IRISH4869]] 03:10, 20 May 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> We need clear definitions for each category. We'll work on that. While Spider-Man's category has the various incarnations of Spider-Man (2099, House of M, Ultimate) and includes Spider-Girl (MC2), a category like "Heroes" and "Villains" should be reserved for 616 only. As for "Horror", this universe is pretty unique in being so focused on the horror genre, the mods agreed that the Zombie-verse should be included here. It's not black or white - and again, we need to put some guidelines up top in each category's Talk page.--[[User:MikeFichera|MikeFichera]] 00:06, 21 May 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Zombies are the un-dead end of story. Spider-man is the best profile on the "Zombies profiles" the other are ok though<br /> <br /> == Beginning ==<br /> <br /> Yeah, Viper, I did use your beginining. I don't mean to copy your work, but I was wondering whether it would be okay to put that beginning in all the up-coming zombie bios, to be more organized. If that, for any reason, is a problem, then I'll change the beginning in the Venom bio because that was the only reason I put it there. [[User:sononsj|sononsj]] 21:00, 8 May 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Yea, I took it from Marvel Zombies anyway. What was the purpose of your earlier edit? --[[user:Liqiudviper|Viper]] 21:11, 8 May 2006 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I created a line seperating the dialogue and the rest of the article. [[User:sononsj|sononsj]] 22:43, 8 May 2006 (EDT)</div> Leperchaun
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First Look: Universal Music's "Six String" Guitar Game for iPhone
Universal Music Group has debuted a new Guitar Hero-like music simulation game for the iPhone. Priced at $4.99 and available in the App Store right now, it's called Six String [iTunes link].
The emphasis is on a more realistic and deeper guitar-playing experience than you get in other music games, though it's still not quite like the real thing. The game comes with licensed UMG songs by artists like Bon Jovi and Tom Petty. It even includes a song by The Scorpions ("Raised on a Rock") from an album that won't hit shelves digital or otherwise until March 23.
There are two game modes: Practice Mode and Studio Mode. Practice mode gives you feedback on how accurate you are in hitting notes. Studio Mode turns off those hints and replaces them with status bars that measure your progress. If you make too many mistakes, you're kicked out of the song.
We played the game for a while today, and our impressions are that it's one of the better music games for the iPhone. It won't be as fun as playing Rock Band on the Nintendo Wii with your entire family, but it's a worthy distraction, and that's what mobile games are supposed to be.
How You Play
I played electric guitar in a Blues band professionally for two years. Thanks to that experience, I can tell you that while Six String is not too much like the real thing, it feels like a closer approximation than Guitar Hero. That's despite the lack of a guitar peripheral — not that I'm complaining that there's not one (you wouldn't want to carry around a peripheral with your phone, obviously!).
Six String feels more like a real guitar because the mistakes you make are similar to the ones you'd make on a real guitar — with one hand, anyway. The game simulates the strumming and picking hand and has you using the touchscreen to either strum, tap or hold each individual string (or a group if strings) in correct time as the notes come up. It works well and it feels a little bit like you're actually playing music when you're getting it right.
The game also prompts you with chord changes on harder difficulty levels, but you perform them by tapping with the same fingers you use to play the strings. If you miss notes or chord changes, the music is digitally altered to sound a bit off. It doesn't sound very realistic, but you can tell what you're doing wrong. As with Guitar Hero, the skills of real guitar players won't translate here or vice versa. But that's not really the point, because it's a fun game to play.
When you complete a song, you're given detailed stats and feedback. You can share them with friends through the online service described below.
Online Features
The game comes with six songs: Bon Jovi’s “You Give Love A Bad Name,” Tom Petty’s “Runnin’ Down A Dream,” Fall Out Boy’s “Thnks Fr Th Mmrs,” Peter Frampton’s “Show Me The Way” and Orianthi’s “According To You.” If you tire of those, you can buy more in the included music store. Each new track costs $0.99. If you'd like, you can buy the same songs on iTunes from within the app. You can also watch music videos or download ring tones.
Six String connects to a social gaming service called Plus+. You can share your top scores, compete for a spot on the leader boards and check on any friend's status. UMG put some Twitter and Facebook integration in the mix, too. It's similar to the Feint network that's used by several other iPhone games out there.
Do you have a favorite music game for the iPhone? Head down to the comments below to fill us and the other readers in!
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Android Phones Pinpoint Snipers
The military has high-tech equipment to track sniper fire, using microphones carried by soldiers or stationary mics mounted at strategic points. Now that technology is getting shrunk so it can be used in the hands of civilian bodyguards with Android phones.
A team of computer engineers from Vanderbilt University, led by Akos Ledeczi, has developed an inexpensive piece of hardware and related software to turn an Android smartphone into a sniper finder. The Vanderbilt team described the new system at the 12th Association for Computing Machinery/IEEE Conference on Information Processing in Sensor Networks in Philadelphia earlier this month.
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They built a sensor module that is about the size of a deck of cards. When a shot is fired, the sensor picks up the sounds and logs the exact time. The sensor then sends the data to a smartphone via a Bluetooth connection. If any other smartphones in the local wireless network have similar modules, the location of the gunshot can be pinpointed by the timing of the sounds’ arrival. It’s a similar idea to the ShotSpotter, a system used in Seattle to track locations of shooting incidents.
There are two versions of the system. One uses a single microphone per module, but requires at least six separate phones to accurately calculate the location of the shooter. The second setup has four microphones in each (slightly larger) sensor module, but needs only two separate phones to locate the sniper.
The sensors make use of a distinctive feature of gunshots: they produce two bangs. One is from the muzzle of the gun, as the gases propelling the bullet expand and create a shock wave. That sound wave goes out in all directions, and it is shaped like a sphere.
Bullets make a second sound. As they are usually moving at supersonic speeds, it is a small sonic boom. The sound wave is conical, with the bullet at the point of the cone.
Timing when the two sounds arrive at the microphone can give a good idea of where the shot came from, and when that data is taken from separate locations, it allows for triangulating the sniper’s position.
Using the sonic boom form the bullet allows the microphones to “hear” the shots over longer ranges. Janos Sallai, a research scientist on Ledeczi’s team, told Discovery News that at larger distances, the spherical wave from the muzzle is distorted by obstacles on the ground. That’s one reason people have a difficult time figuring out where sounds like gunshots are coming from.
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The microphones in a phone, he added, wouldn’t work. “Originally we were thinking of the phone mic, but the sampling rate wasn’t enough,” he said.
In addition, the noise cancellation that most phone makers build into them so that you can have a conversation in a crowded restaurant or outside, gets in the way.
Civilian bodyguards could use these sensors to protect dignitaries, with each member of a team equipped with a sensor module. If a shot were fired, the guards could track where it came from and help local police track down the shooter. Sallai added that the Secret Service has shown a lot of interest in this system and has even called for proposals.
Photo via iStockphoto, DeanMillar
This article originally published at Discovery News here
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Engineer Isaac Clarke is sent to repair the Ishimura, an immense mining ship, but he arrives to find a living nightmare-the ship is a floating bloodbath, the crew unspeakably mutilated and infected by an ancient alien scourge.
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Somebody else has to have noticed that questions that get hit by the nuclear downvote warhead are usually related, whether directly or peripherally, to PHP.
I'd assert also that part of this downvote storm happens because PHP is often people's first language, and is often self-taught in early stages. Furthermore, I'm certain that there is a better way to deal with such questions than downvoting them into oblivion and leaving unpleasant, sarcastic comments.
The best way I can think of to deal with questions like this would be to immediately recognize that you're dealing with a question with a known fundamental flaw: the writer's broadly incomplete knowledge of the language, and of programming in general. You might be thinking that that statement is a little harsh, but anecdotally, I started using PHP when I was about 14. If I'd known SO had existed then, I'd probably have earned myself a posting ban within less than a week with all of the low quality crap I'd have posted. PHP was my second language, and I was using it long before I had any sort of structured programming education. I'd imagine that a significant portion of early PHP users, such like those who ask questions like those currently being discussed, are in a similar situation.
So anyway. Step one is to read the question, and search not only for the problem, which will likely be obvious, but also for The Problem (the underlying misconception or lack of knowledge that led to the asking of the flawed question) which will be hidden between the lines. The second would be to address both problems, with special emphasis on The Problem. A good way to do this might be to keep tried, tested, and well-informed PHP tutorials on hand, as well as recommendations about good style and good practice.
Remember that new developers are like children: the things that influence their early style will create habits that will be very hard to break later; it's imperative, for their future as developers, that they be guided towards good practices that promote structured development and maintainability, as well as readability and safety and testability and a host of other things, and that a lack of guidance will have a similarly destructive effect on their ability to adapt to better practices later.
For what it's worth, it helps to remember that you were all the same way once; guideless and directionless, adrift in a sea of bad practice and sloppy code that if you went back now and tried to read it, it would make you cry blood. I still occasionally run into code I wrote back then and man, it's horrid.
Things to come away from this question include:
• Every time you downvote a question without explaining why, god teaches another 14 year old that PHP exists but doesn't explain how to use it
• Constructive criticism is good
• People can learn if you teach them, even those with really dumb questions
• You were a noob once too
Excessive hostility during larval stage maims and deforms developers, but proper care cultivates talented ones who don't write code that makes people want to vomit.
1. When I see a dumb question, even if I don't downvote it, I usually comment on it, trying to say something constructive that might explain what's missing or why other people are downvoting. I think everyone should explain themselves if they downvote something, it makes correcting the problem much easier. You can only please the masses if you know what they want.
2. When you identify a question asked by a fledgling programmer with a flawed understanding of a language, you should put a little effort into correcting their understanding. It can make a big difference in their output.
3. Those who can, if you see such a question, consider searching for a duplicate and voting to close, rather than downvoting it. If applied frequently, this method will teach users to search for their question before they ask it, especially if you add a comment like "You should search for your question before posting it because chances are it's already been asked."
1. How do you deal with questions that fit this description?
2. Do you enjoy downvoting bad questions? I sort of do (but I make sure to explain why). Be honest.
3. Since PHP seems to specifically exhibit this issue more than other topics, what are some objectively good PHP learners' aids; tutorials, practice guides, examples, etc?
CAOP stands for "closed as of posting", i.e. the question was open when I included a link to it, and has since been closed.
The accuracy of my claims of bias has been questioned. Rudimentary statistics, considering ONLY THE FIRST PAGE of each tag (statistics over wider periods of time may vary)
NDQ: Number of Downvoted Questions
RDUQ: Ratio of Downvoted to Upvoted Questions (treats each question as 1)
TD: Total Downvotes (on all downvoted question)
Tag: NDQ: RDUQ: TD: Notes:
PHP 7 3.5 25 subject in question. many downvoted questions.
Python 2 0.2 4 random language tag. opposite trend.
multithreading 4 0.5 22 random niche tag. a few really bad questions.
mysql 8 1.0 13 related tag. 5 of 8 downvoted are also tagged PHP
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closed as not constructive by jmort253, Toon Krijthe, Rory, jonsca, ChrisF Sep 14 '12 at 11:28
It might be important to recognize that PHP is not exactly a well-liked language, and that "targeting PHP devs early" might help change it into something better in the long run. – Wug Sep 12 '12 at 20:13
Can you give some examples of questions like this? – Andrew Whitaker Sep 12 '12 at 20:14
Do you have any examples you can point to? – user146551 Sep 12 '12 at 20:14
I bet many of these downvotes come from the infamous PHP chat room =) – jadarnel27 Sep 12 '12 at 20:15
Everyone was a new programmer. But not everyone demands all the code to be delivered to them on a plate hidden behind a scrag bush – random Sep 12 '12 at 20:17
Have you got any statistics to compare relative down-voting behaviour across tags? I assure you I down-vote bad questions regardless of tag, I am non-discriminatory like that. – Martijn Pieters Sep 12 '12 at 20:18
This question makes a lot of assumptions. I think you'll have to justify some of them before we can have a constructive discussion. – Pops Sep 12 '12 at 20:19
Have you considered that PHP is pretty high on the list due to the relative competence of the questions/answers provided rather than a general hate of PHP. All languages have their -10+ voted questions. However, if the average quality of an q/a then can't you expect more downvotes; for whatever reason. – ben is uǝq backwards Sep 12 '12 at 20:31
You sure picked five insanely hard examples to defend...good on you for trying to stick up for them, but I doubt you'll get traction with this question if you don't find better examples. – user7116 Sep 12 '12 at 20:32
Aaaand 4 of the 5 questions as examples are now closed. – Daniel DiPaolo Sep 12 '12 at 20:38
@DanielDiPaolo: what a shock. I guess I'll have to search for others. Even the instagram one, which I'm sure would have at least been answered if it had been asked about python or C#. My point wasn't that these were great questions that didn't deserve criticism. It was that the kind of criticism they got doesn't help at all. – Wug Sep 12 '12 at 20:42
...Because PHP. – GEOCHET Sep 12 '12 at 20:54
@PeeHaa Ooooh, I'm telling! – jadarnel27 Sep 12 '12 at 21:03
@Wug PHP has an ingrained culture of developers who are not willing to put any effort in. Some of these are new developers asking dumb questions in the same way that everyone did occasionally, but far more of them are repeat/serial offenders. You can tell the (dare I say it?) real developers who show up in the PHP tag from a mile off. They ask questions with code samples. They post actual error messages. They use descriptive question titles. They don't ask you to spoon feed them. They read the answers properly before saying "it doesn't work". – David X. Random Sep 12 '12 at 21:40
@Wug ...but my (not very well expressed) point is that those people, for the most part, get what they deserve. From my observations as someone who roams the purple hills of the PHP tag, brand new users who ask bad questions get "Welcome to SO, please read the FAQ/how to ask pages" comments and the like, and do not get the instant influx of down/close votes. Repeat offenders, however, do not get the same treatment. And those people don't learn, either - they inevitably get banned from asking questions and wind up in PHP chat, asking the same poorly researched RTFM questions. – David X. Random Sep 12 '12 at 21:52
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Stack Overflow is a question and answer board, not an instructional site to teach people how to program. It's not that we enjoy downvoting; we are fixing the signal-to-noise ratio for the site.
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Speak for yourself. I thoroughly enjoy issuing a well-deserved down vote. :p – Andrew Barber Sep 12 '12 at 20:21
If you want to fix the S/N ratio, use the close button, not the downvote button. – Wug Sep 12 '12 at 20:25
@Wug Both are tools we have that we can use. May I suggest it's our decision when to use either (or both)? For example, I'm strongly considering down voting this question, but I would not consider voting to close it. – Andrew Barber Sep 12 '12 at 20:26
@AndrewBarber: Downvotes are different on meta. I know I'm playing the devils advocate and that this question will be downvoted and I don't care. Someone should do it now and then, its good for you. – Wug Sep 12 '12 at 21:00
@Wug Actually, my down vote here would be for exactly the same reason as on many of those I do on Stack Overflow; lack of proper research. – Andrew Barber Sep 12 '12 at 21:01
Not sure what you mean by that. Perhaps you mean my brief eyeballed collection of data for 4 or 5 tags? I'll be updating this with a significantly more in depth set of metrics later tonight, generated from the API via a script. Or maybe you mean the fact that the questions really are bad? That's kind of the point of my question. Perhaps you missed a paragraph? – Wug Sep 12 '12 at 21:05
How do you deal with questions that fit this description?
Downvote and close them, with an explanation of course and a "summer of love" appropriate welcome comment. This will hopefully teach the asker that the type of question they've asked is not a good fit for StackOverflow and improve their behavior in the future.
You are not providing the user a service if you don't do this, in my opinion. Eventually they'll come across users who will take this action, so the sooner they are taught the correct type of question to ask and how to ask it, the more they will get out of the site, and the more valuable they will be to the community.
I enjoy improving the quality of the site, whether that's through downvotes, closing questions, editing questions, or answering questions. So with that in mind, yes, I do enjoy downvoting bad questions because I hope it will ultimately improve the quality of StackOverflow.
Not sure because I'm not a PHP expert. But in the and tags we have similar issues with new users. I always direct them to MDN. I'm sure there's a similar resource for PHP out there.
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@OP php.net contains pretty decent information for any user. – PeeHaa Sep 12 '12 at 20:52
It's been claimed that the javascript and jquery tags do not suffer from this bias as much as PHP does. I haven't checked this and I'm not going to until later, but why exactly is it that new PHP users tend to get singled out more often? perhaps there are simply more of them? – Wug Sep 12 '12 at 21:09
@Wug saying "I'm not sure if there's a bias yet, but why does the bias exist?" doesn't make much sense – Brad Mace Sep 13 '12 at 14:32
@Wug seeing as it's presumably mostly fellow PHP users doing the downvoting and closing, I don't really see the problem? – Pëkka Oct 7 '12 at 6:25
Almost everyday there is a new question posted about:
• a basic error with string concatenation
• a syntax error in a query because the data was not escaped
These questions already have lots of duplicates, and it is very easy to find the answer by just reading the PHP manual here and there
Note: YES, I do know mysql_* functions are deprecated. But so many beginners use them that they should end up on the help page for mysql_query if only they did some simple research first.
So, my point is: I don't see a problem downvoting and closing very basic questions whose answer is easily found just by reading the PHP manual!
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Not exactly sure what you are trying to achieve with this post, but you seem to think people that are following the [php] tag are more willing to downvote questions. Or you notice that [php] questions often get lots of downvotes.
Well as a follower of the [php] tag (among other tags) I can tell you the PHP tag produces just so many crap. And if a question is crap I really don't mind to downvote it without any remorse. I don't think I get a particular good feeling about downvoting often, it's the opposite. It makes me a little sad because of the fact there is so much crap that deserves a downvote.
A downvote is not an action of hostility. It is an action of housekeeping / quality assurance.
Although I do agree with you that a comment is the nice thing to do, but you have to keep some things in mind:
• SO has chosen to NOT make this mandatory. I.e. any user may or may not add a comment when downvoting. This is the way SO wants it to be. You may agree or not, but the fact is: Comments are not mandatory for downvotes period.
• Even doing "the right thing" and comment when you downvote. OP still wouldn't like it in some cases and goes on a downvoting spree to "get back". Even when both the comment and the downvote are justified
• Some downvotes should be clear to OP without any explanation if they only would have taken the time to: Read the faq, read the How to ask page or plain simple common sense.
I'm all for correcting of understanding of a language. That is if the misunderstanding is not something OP could have simply found out by reading into some documentation him/herself. Or when OP doesn't just give some set of requirements and yell canihaztehcodez.
100% agree. When there are dupes close vote as dupe. However when there are 10.000 exact dupes already to be easily found on SO I say downvote and close as dupe. And after it is closed delete it. If there are already 1000s dupes it shows a lack of research of OP (which imho deserves a downvote).
So now to your questions:
How do you deal with questions that fit this description?
Downvote when they deserve it without even blinking with my eyes (yes I'm an ice-cold downvoter) :) And close vote if it cannot be salvaged. Leave a comment if OP could fix it and add it to my list to check later for improvement.
No it makes my a sad sad panda.
Since PHP seems to specifically exhibit this issue more than other topics
PHP is a easy language to start in "coding". Hence everybody just starts doing stuff without reading any documentation, without doing any research. Besides this fact there will always be lots of people trying it out (e.g. new users). And besides this [php] has a nice community who tries to keep it tidy / tries to do housekeeping. Which is a good thing imho. Basically [php] attracts a lot of crap (I think more so than most other tags) and the fact that you see a lot of downvotes makes two things clear:
1. php produces crap
2. the community around the php tag are serious about cleaning op SO
There are a lot of terrible tutorials on the web which is a serious problem for PHP. THe ultimate source for PHP is the official manual which is maintained by the community and is a very good resource on most topics. Also there is another community driven resource here called PHP: The Right Way.
Since you also have a tl;dr:
Crap questions should get the downvotes they deserve. There is no bias for [php] only for low quality posts.
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Optimally, you'd be 100% correct, but if you were 13, and you asked a question, and it was downvoted to like -6 in 3 minutes and nobody posted anything explaining why, would you see that as hostility? This post is calling attention to a problem that seemingly extends far beyond SO (the fact that much of php development is subjectively crap). I'm trying to point out that the way to transform the perpetrators of said crap into something less crappy probably doesn't involve alienating them (intentionally or otherwise) and that if PHP is to be considered not crap, real effort is probably needed. – Wug Sep 12 '12 at 21:23
If you are 13 you are not allowed to have an account on SO. Even if 13 year olds were allowed to make an account on SO I wouldn't change my habits one single bit. If a question deserves a downvote it gets a downvote. Whether it is from a 13 year old, some php guru or some hot chick. It gets what it deserves. When people ask their first question they have to tick a checkbox stating they have read and understood the "How to ask" page. Which in most situations should prevent spitting out crap in the first place. – PeeHaa Sep 12 '12 at 21:26
You can post without having an account. – Wug Sep 12 '12 at 21:28
Either way I just found out you are allowed to signup from 13 years old. MY point still stands. Why would the community not use the tools the have because someone is young? Should we just let the entire community go down the drain because we may hurt somebody's feelings? – PeeHaa Sep 12 '12 at 21:30
I think your opinion of how to help the community differs from mine. I understand that downvotes help make a point, but I co-assert that explanation of opinion is a much more concrete way to help. It's tedious helping newbs like this, but keeping a watchful eye for untrained developers and responding accordingly with General Known Good Advice and/or links to Known Good Resources such as php.net, stackoverflow's PHP chat, or other places talented PHP devs congregate, will help them learn by example. Nobody said fixing the PHP community would be easy or fun. – Wug Sep 12 '12 at 21:37
It's ok if you have a different opinion. It's a free country (unless you are from the USA ;) ), but judging on the voting in this thread the community doesn't really agree with your opinion. Again this is also fine. Still a free country (unless from the USA). – PeeHaa Sep 12 '12 at 21:38
Have you heard about quantum romneyism? :D nytimes.com/2012/04/01/opinion/sunday/… – Wug Sep 12 '12 at 21:39
@Wug Looking it up now :) – PeeHaa Sep 12 '12 at 21:42
Just wanted to highlight this question asked earlier today, which sort of highlights the main reason Stack Exchange doesn't make comments mandatory on downvotes. – jmort253 Sep 13 '12 at 3:57
To the extent that PHP gets more downvotes than other tags, I think it can be easily explained by the proportion of inexperienced users asking bad questions, most of which could have been answered by a quick search.
The default state of public internet sites is useless garbage. Sites that aren't garbage are constantly trying to go back to being garbage. They want to be garbage, the law of internet gravity pulls them towards it: it's their natural resting state. Countering this downward force and preventing sites from becoming garbage requires the constant exertion of moderator energy (M) along an opposing vector. If we start making exceptions to the site's standards, it's only a matter of time (and not that much time) before the weight (W=N+T+S) of the noobs, trolls, and spammers brings it down.
If the site is going to keep the experts who provide the answers interested it must constantly work to maintain some quality standards. If some people can't handle negative feedback, that's their problem. They will not be missed.
At least I have chicken
QED, no sympathy for bad questions.
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what the fck am I reading lol *edit also, the post isn't about surrendering and becoming garbage. It's about long run working to make the PHP development community not as much of a steaming heap as it currently is. Also +1 for the very informative diagram. – Wug Sep 12 '12 at 22:54
This is the most comprehensive theoretical explanation of the Internet that I have ever read, and I predict it will one day be taught in classrooms. In the interest of scientific clarity, however, you should explain in more detail what the brown smeared segment in your illustraion represents. – Pëkka Oct 7 '12 at 6:02
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I've been banned, because I got a handful of downvotes in a row. I've become quite a fan of Stack Overflow, but this is annoying.
I think there is something wrong with this filter.
An automatic filter is in place to ban questions and/or answers from IP addresses or accounts with a history of extremely poor posts.
Three bad questions in a row and I'm out? I would argue they are as valid as any other questions out there.
One question was about tracking UITouches in a dictionary in iOS.
It was closed with the notice
ambiguous, vague and incomplete? Difficult to tell what is being asked here? Seriously.... the admins have to be more careful.
By that standard most questions would have to be closed.
Stack Overflow describes itself as following:
As stated clearly in the about links on every page, the Stack Exchange web sites are question and answer sites, not help forums. This implies that all posts are expected to have some value for later visitors too."
80-90% of all questions have no value for later visitors. So on the one hand, Stack Overflow doesn't want debates and general questions, on the other hand questions should not be too specific?
In detail:
I received some downvotes for my question on Scripting a GUI with Javascript and it was closed. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13351211/javascript-gui-functionality However a simple answer would have been to say that there are libraries such as http://www.cappuccino.org/ which solves this. Why should be this not a good question? The other one was on django and printing the request. I can see why people downvoted it. And that's it. I have 48 answers, 19 questions, a handfull of downvotes and .. I'm banned. Why?
The question hasn't been answered and the thread has been closed. The question was: how is it possible that I get banned because of two questions? I can't address the issue of deleted questions, after learning about them after the fact, can I? Also, there is no indication how can I fix the issues with the closed questions. The whole thing doesn't make any sense. From my 19 questions only 2 were downvoted. -16 downvotes, but no one cares to explain the details. Overwhelming negativity. This is supposed to be the help section of the site? Very helpful. Yuck.
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considering the admins have got nothing to do with closure.. not sure what they have to be careful about – Sathya Nov 27 '12 at 11:10
banning people because of a couple of downvotes is a bug. Just go ahead and edit anything you like. Do whatever you want, close threads, edit posts and be happy about yourself. But this is not helpful at all. – RParadox Nov 27 '12 at 11:13
Are you sure you don't have deleted questions? THat's usually what triggers the ban. – Pëkka Nov 27 '12 at 11:18
Out of your 19 questions, 4 have ended up being closed. 2 somewhat significantly downvoted. And not many upvoted. Though, if that's all there is (no deleted questions for example) then you can't be in all that deep. Improve your content, get some upvotes in the process and you should be good to go. – Bart Nov 27 '12 at 11:18
That would be good to know. Banning people so easily it not a good idea. How about an info message first? – RParadox Nov 27 '12 at 11:19
Well, each time your question gets closed there's a message indicating what's wrong. And downvotes should send a message as well. True, this does not necessarily hint at a ban (and early warnings have been discussed here before) but it certainly hints at something needing improvement. – Bart Nov 27 '12 at 11:20
My questions are perfectly fine, except 1 or 2 out of 19. I have been able to answer them, after putting in more research, but they could have been easily answered. So, please, don't just assume you're right. – RParadox Nov 27 '12 at 11:23
I don't assume anything. The system looks (afaik) at the hard facts of the status of your questions and its votes. If you feel something is unfairly closed, address that constructively. If it was justifiably closed, but you feel you can address the issue, do so and perhaps flag for a mod to take a look and perhaps reopen. Rightfully downvoted, but you think you can improve it? Go ahead. There are many things you can do to get out of this. – Bart Nov 27 '12 at 11:25
Well, how about changing this absurd filter and giving me more information? Interesting to see how a community addresses issues. – RParadox Nov 27 '12 at 11:27
@RParadox if you got banned unfairly, I sympathize, but you have to understand that this ban is the most important thing protecting users' sanity on Stack Overflow. We are very, very fond of the mechanism. And usually, it turns out that there are way more than just 2 or 3 out of 20. Your tone doesn't help matters either. – Pëkka Nov 27 '12 at 11:28
@RParadox All I'm saying is that (even with the filter unchanged) there are many things you as a user can do to get yourself out of this. Some of which are also clearly stated in the answer to this question. If that is not decent community support then I don't know what is. – Bart Nov 27 '12 at 11:30
Why do you believe it is me who did something wrong? I asked perfectly valid questions, and if SO believes there are not good enough, well I say goodbye. – RParadox Nov 27 '12 at 11:33
Let's give this one last try: the system afaik looks for signs of problems. Downvotes, question closures or a significant number of deletions might signal that a user is not great at asking questions. This might trigger a ban. If any of the factors mentioned are unfair in your opinion, address them. Perhaps all it takes is for an unfairly closed question to get reopened. Or for a question you deleted to be undeleted. Perhaps you do need to put in some effort and improve what you've contributed. Or you can assume all you've contributed is excellent and wait until you're blue in the face. – Bart Nov 27 '12 at 11:38
for info about what you should do now for your ban to be lifted. meta.stackexchange.com/a/147081/195231 – Sahil Mahajan Mj Nov 27 '12 at 11:43
The Javascript GUI question was closed as "not constructive" because it essentially asks for recommendations or (a list of) libraries that fit a certain scenario. Such questions are not on-topic for Stack Overflow. Btw: may I suggest you stake a step back for now, let things cool down a bit and then come back. You're not being very constructive even though we're practically trying to help you out here. Anyway, I've said what I could say. Good luck with the rest. – Bart Nov 27 '12 at 11:46
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Questions don't get closed automatically. They are closed by the community. It takes 5 votes from the community to close a question. Questions can also be closed by a single vote from a moderator, but that can be triggered by a question being flagged for moderator attention.
I've looked through all of your closed questions with an eye on quality, and found that I agree with the closure in every case. With one exception, they were closed either for being off-topic or for being non-constructive. The one exception was an exact duplicate.
Here's an example of one of your closed questions:
I've been using Emacs for a couple of weeks now. "As of right now (23 June 2008), a checkout of GNU Emacs has 1,112,341 lines of Lisp as well as 346,822 lines of C." I know Emacs does a lot of things and is a vast project. How much of the emacs code is just text editing? What is in mainly in those 1.5 million LOC?? By comparison jEdit jumped up to 150k LOC after a stable release, growing to almost 500k. I'm sort of playing around with the idea of programming my own text editor from scratch, more as a fun project.
I would have voted to close this as well for being off-topic or non-constructive. As stated in the FAQ, SO is for practical, answerable questions about programming. In other words, one thing that SO is not is a place to carry on a general conversation. SO is not like a blog or many other web sites in that regard.
This question isn't practical or answerable because it is conversational, it doesn't ask a single specific question, and it doesn't seek a single, definitive answer. It is a solicitation for general opinion or consensus, and reads like a question posted to an internet forum.
Stack Overflow isn't an internet forum, it is a question & answer site. The scope of what is on-topic here is fairly narrow in that regard. This is something that many newer members don't understand at first.
Don't take the closures personally, and don't consider the ban to be arbitrary. Do be open-minded however, and consider the possibility that although you think your questions are "good questions", that's not the only parameter used to decide if a question has a place on Stack Overflow.
Edit Your edit asks,
I received some downvotes for my question on Scripting a GUI with Javascript and it was closed. Javascript GUI functionality However a simple answer would have been to say that there are libraries such as http://www.cappuccino.org/ which solves this. Why should be this not a good question?
This type of question should be closed, because it is asking a question in the form of, "I need a library that does XYZ, can you recommend one?" Questions like this are basically shopping recommendations, and are off-topic at SO.
Now, if you had found one such library on your own and had trouble integrating that library in to your project, questions about how to solve those problems might be on-topic.
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Well, fair enough. However, you haven't considered my point really, which is that this mechanism is way too strict and that the explanation of the ban is poor. From the 4 questions which were closed, this one I agree with is not good. You picked the easy one, because the javascript GUI question is a much more difficult case. If a question such as "is there a library which does XYZ" can be clearly be answered why should it be invalid? The third was a duplicate and the fourth was clearly unwarranted. I don't think you really considered my arguments about this process. – RParadox Nov 27 '12 at 12:21
I've already commented on the Javascript GUI case. It is not-constructive. Library recommendations or any such recommendations are not on-topic for Stack Overfow. – Bart Nov 27 '12 at 12:26
Shopping questions are off topic because there are often many "right" answers. If you read the FAQ youll find that this type of queston is explicitly mentioned as a question not to ask. – John Dibling Nov 27 '12 at 12:28
Well then you will have to close 1000s of those shopping questions, such as stackoverflow.com/questions/3692840/… . If somebody asks, who do I do XYZ in language ABC, somebody might mention that there is a library for doing XYZ. Libraries and languages are sometimes indistinguishable. In Lisp a library is an extension of the language. Most of what of programmers do and most of the questions on SO is about libraries. Consider the standard libraries of languages. – RParadox Nov 27 '12 at 12:33
I do vote to close shopping questions wherever i find them. They are all off topic. – John Dibling Nov 27 '12 at 12:35
You explicitly ask for libraries with certain properties. This is off-topic. However, if you have a good on-topic question to which the answer is a specific library, that is just fine. That said, we have a significant number of questions coming in each day. Some that should be closed might slip through the cracks. And the site evolves over time. What was once on-topic might no longer be. Don't take that as an excuse to ask questions which are not on-topic. – Bart Nov 27 '12 at 12:36
Also bear in mind that because SO is largely moderated by the community it is also not a perfect model of its own policies. Many bad questions slip through. Were only human, and volunteers at that. – John Dibling Nov 27 '12 at 12:38
This is all doesn't explain why SO is excluding users judging on very few datapoints. Being treated like a troll, because I asked about a library? What a joke.... – RParadox Nov 27 '12 at 16:57
I think you're referring to the automatic mechanism which banned you. I can't really speak to that because I'm not a mod, and I didn't code that mechanism. However, I would speculate that the mechanism wasn't triggered because of a single question being closed, but because of the sum total of your activity. – John Dibling Nov 27 '12 at 17:09
Look at the stats. 2/19 questions downvotes, 2/49 answers. Do you (SO) really want throw me off the site, in all seriousness? And then you want to argue that this makes sense? This is insane... – RParadox Nov 27 '12 at 17:23
@RParadox Did you by now attempt anything to improve your situation and have the ban lifted? Any of the various options we've told you about or explained to you in the linked questions? And btw, the stats are: 2 questions with a significant number of downvotes. 4 questions closed. And perhaps (but confirmation is pending on that I guess) deleted questions. But still, you can't be in deep. With a bit of effort you should be able to get yourself out of it. – Bart Nov 27 '12 at 17:29
Yes I have read the info. The questions can't be improved. They can be ignored and deleted, but if they violate the policy what more is there to be said?? Also I can't even see my deleted questions. I should undelete my questions? Why? I asked 19 questions and some of them very not so great. You want to ban everyone who asks two stupid questions in a row? – RParadox Nov 27 '12 at 17:37
If we really wanted to "throw you off the site," we wouldn't be having this conversation. Bart and I at least have spent hours of our time trying to discuss this with you. Does that suggest to you that we want you gone? You seem to be looking at the actions of an automatic, pattern-seeking, impersonal banning mechanism and taking it personally. – John Dibling Nov 27 '12 at 17:42
Okay, appreciated. However, SO should change the filtering algorithm, because it sucks pretty badly. If 30-50% of questions are downvoted I could understand but 2/19 downvoted and 4/19 closed. I would thought the anwer would be: sure there must be something wrong with the system, because we usually don't throw out our users just like that. Make the ban temporary, or install a warning, before banning. Don't just ban people for no good reason. – RParadox Nov 27 '12 at 20:21
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This is a pretty simple one. Pressing the backspace key (my preferred method of going back a page), while on the edit page of a review, leaves the review queue.
The expected behavior is that I will return to the review I was just on, instead of exiting.
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This is actually the case for all inline-editing on the site, not just via review.
While perhaps unexpected, I'm not sure there's a straightforward solution. Most of the page stays intact, while only the post is replaced with the edit UI. As for whether this constitutes a new browser history state, it seems borderline.
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Fair enough. It'd be tricky to add a new browser state - and after all, it's just one key. I'll change. – Emrakul Jan 18 '13 at 1:43
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How about a "Snowbird" badge for migrating X number of questions to SF or SU?
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I would surely have gold in this area of activity. I upvote you. – Bill the Lizard Aug 27 '09 at 17:42
Excluding moderators of course =) – juanformoso Aug 27 '09 at 17:43
@Juan: D'oh! X( – Bill the Lizard Aug 27 '09 at 17:46
Moderators shouldn't get any badges. They're moderators, ffs. BRB, adding another question... – Won't Aug 27 '09 at 17:46
@Will: Yes, remove as many moderator incentives as possible. We don't want them to be encouraged. ;) – Jeff Yates Aug 27 '09 at 17:47
They have the power, now we have to let them have perks as well? – Won't Aug 27 '09 at 17:49
(-1) for the reasons described in my answer – devinb Aug 27 '09 at 18:33
declined for both devinb and andrew's reasons. – waffles Oct 14 '11 at 0:27
@waffles: I'd decline this because it is a stupid idea. Who the heck thought this was a good idea? Sheesh. – Won't Oct 14 '11 at 14:36
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There aren't badges for "closing questions" because it would cause a stampede of questionable closes. People who are closing things just to get the badge.
Migrating a question is just a particular type of "close", no more or less worthy of a badge than the other reasons to close. It should not get a specialized badge unless each close reason gets its own badge. And, giving each close reason its own badge would just incentivize people to close everything they can see, in order to get the badges.
Closing is not something that should need any incentive. It is a desire to clean up the site that causes us to close questions.
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No badges for helping keep the site clean. Good one. – Won't Aug 28 '09 at 16:51
You hit it right on the head Will, I'm anti-clean. – devinb Aug 28 '09 at 17:32
What about people treating programmers.SE as a toilet bowl? Would they get the "plumber" badge?
I don't think that migration in particular needs encouraging. Closing questions in general may be worth rewarding, however.
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Would be cool but, playing devil's advocate, might overly encourage the rep-whoring. You gotta get to 3000 before you can (in a trackable way) help to migrate questions to other sites.
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It's already an incentive to get over 3000 the other perks. This wouldn't weight that much more. – perbert Aug 27 '09 at 18:12
I do agree. Again, just playing devil's advocate. – squillman Aug 27 '09 at 18:45
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In a blog post called "Learn Perl" on his blog, "Content Considered Harmful", Jonathan Rockway writes:
As an aside, Stack Overflow's reputation system is slowly killing the site. In an effort to gain reputation points, people are answering questions that they admit to not knowing the answer to. It seems like every answer in the Perl section starts off with the phrase, "I don't know Perl, but..."
Do you think the above observation is correct? If yes, is the reputation system at fault? What could be changed to fix this?
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Yeah... "Nobody goes there no more; it's too crowded!" -- Yogi Berra – Robert Cartaino Jul 13 '09 at 13:58
without actual examples it's hard to take the criticism seriously. It's just hand-wavy "because I said so" – Jeff Atwood Jul 13 '09 at 13:59
Here's some examples just for fun... in reality this has only happened 3 times and in one case by a very respected user. stackoverflow.com/questions/650396/… – Ian Elliott Jul 13 '09 at 14:14
Don't know if your posting this here has changed their status, but all three of those answer have negative votes; that suggests to me the system is working. – Timothy Carter Jul 13 '09 at 14:21
They've always had negatives :) I was never suggesting the system wasn't working, merely pointing out the only cases where "I don't know perl but" was used. – Ian Elliott Jul 13 '09 at 14:24
I can provide examples where similar "I don't know X but..." answers have received upvotes and/or been accepted, which balances things out significantly. – Jon Skeet Jul 13 '09 at 14:24
Yes there are several of those that I found Jon. I wasn't trying to suggest the system was broken, just pointing out the only cases where the original authors argument could be validated. I agree with the general consensus that everything is working as it should in this regard. – Ian Elliott Jul 13 '09 at 14:28
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BS, really. There have been plenty of times that I answered a question about a programming situation without knowing the specific language being discussed. I have enough experience with algorithms that I can offer information about how to solve the problem, even if I don't know the exact syntax.
In the spirit of full disclosure, it would simply be a nice courtesy to start my post with, "I do not know Pearl, but..."
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@rcar s/Pearl/Perl/ unless it was a joke. – Sinan Ünür Jul 13 '09 at 14:13
Uh, yeah... a joke. Let's go with that. Hehe – Robert Cartaino Jul 13 '09 at 14:24
i got that it was a joke, if that makes you feel better – Kip Jul 13 '09 at 14:32
;-) all in good humor – Sinan Ünür Jul 13 '09 at 23:22
If your question gets answered, then upvote and hurray, all is well with the world.
If the answers provided are wrong, then don't reward them for being idiots. Eventually the correct answer will bubble up to the top.
This entire site was based off the reputation system and without it, you would have a serious decline in the number of people who stick around every day answering dozens of questions.
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I think it's more a side-effect of the expertise included in the community. Stack Overflow has a lot of qualified people answering questions for .NET and other Microsoft technologies, because it was seeded from readers of two Microsoft-centric blogs. It also has qualified people answering questions on other topics, but not quite as many. Therefore, questions on the other topics may not get answered quite as quickly.
Now, if someone who works primarily in C# notices an unanswered Perl question with an obvious mistake, they are likely to post their solution. But because they don't work in perl every day they may qualify their answer a bit, because maybe they're missing something subtle.
The genius of Stack Overflow is that this isn't a bad thing. If they're right, the original asker does a facepalm and gets their answer faster. If they're wrong, the answer gets voted down (or at least not voted up) and no real harm is done.
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I would not say very Microsoft-centric, at least in my case. Somewhat, enough to be a bias, but I moderately object to "very" – Jeff Atwood Jul 13 '09 at 13:57
Bad Joel, bad! 'Very' is a word I use a lot, and I'm working on removing it from my writing anyway. – Joel Coehoorn Jul 13 '09 at 13:59
Very very bad Joel! – XMLbog Jul 13 '09 at 14:04
I am very disappointed. – Jeff Yates Jul 13 '09 at 14:29
Who wants to wade through 6 answers by people posting because they want to hear themselves talk? If you don't know Perl, maybe don't say anything until a few minutes have passed... – jrockway Jul 13 '09 at 21:31
I've answered Perl and Python questions with a sort of "Treat this answer with caution, I'm not a Perl/Python expert, but..." Heck, I've even answered Ruby questions in that way.
By answering the question, you're giving the OP something to try or investigate. Not a lot of harm done if it's wrong, but great if it happens to be right and you were using educated guesswork.
I think the benefits outweigh the downsides, but I do think it's a good idea to express your own self-doubt in the answer, so that if it doesn't help quickly the OP won't waste a lot of time on it.
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Wait: you've answered Ruby questions by saying, "I'm not a Perl expert, but <insert answer here>"? – Telemachus Jul 13 '09 at 15:10
Isn't it a well established fact that a language fully embeds its full grokking in Jon Skeet's brain merely by Jon reading a question related to that language? – DVK Feb 19 '10 at 14:51
I read the blog post by Jonathon, I frequent the Perl tag, and I really don't know where he's coming from.
• First of all, the particular example he's talking about follows Damian Conway's Perl Best Practices: using $_ whether it's "understood" or not. Conway reasons that it is not clear which functions take $_ as a default argument, so one suggestion is to always be explicit. Despite that I disagree with a fair amount of PBP (and Conway never wrote it to be the One True Standard), I would never consider its recommendations "an example of doing it wrong". 1) Conway put so much thought into it, and 2) he really got the ball rolling as far as examining if there are common flaws that make Perl as unreadable as some of its reputation suggests.
• Second, I haven't really seen that many accepted answers that begin "I don't know Perl, but". The case mostly happens with "cross-posted" questions with a number of language tags, as when somebody asks "does LanguageX have Perl feature Y?" And in many of those cases, there are NO answers yet from the more established Perl experts, so I don't see wanting to be helpful as reputation panhandling.
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All fair enough - except that I'm not sure that Perl golf is the right place to worry about best practices. – Telemachus Jul 13 '09 at 14:41
@Telemachus: I believe that's all part of Jonathon's hasty take. Searching "[perl] golf ucfirst", returns no hits. The search google.com/… only turns up links to "What's the point of Perl Golf?" question. In addition, the examples that I've been able to scare up never overtly mention golf. There are reasons to write compressed expressions that have nothing to do with "golf". That's his take, so PBP and golf don't fit, then it's possible that it never was intended as golf. – Axeman Jul 13 '09 at 15:42
The [golf] tag has been renamed to [code-golf]. meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2850/the-great-tagging-reorg/… – Brad Gilbert Jul 13 '09 at 22:27
If you really want Perl golf questions you could use this url stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/perl+code-golf but most Perl Golf questions usually become Code Golf stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/code-golf – Brad Gilbert Jul 13 '09 at 22:30
As I mentioned in my post, I think code-golf on a site where people can't even build the simplest programs on their own is inappropriate. But, there are many posts that begin, "Golfing this down..." that don't golf the code down very well. That annoys me. – jrockway Jul 14 '09 at 18:53
Reputation is what drives SO. There are trade-offs in such a system. One of the downsides is that sometimes people will just post BS to try to get a few points here and there. However, the fact that others are motivated to provide better answers (for more reps) and even more others are motivated to vote on answers (you even get a badge for voting ;-) means this downside is reduced drastically compared to the UseNet or other web sites.
There is no system in which everyone will behave perfectly (however it is defined). SO's rep system helps promote better answers (and consequently, better answerers as well, but that is a side effect) regardless of how people behave.
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"Reputation is what drives SO": Disagreed. There are (should I say "have been?") plenty of active forums out there that don't have any kind of reputation whatsoever. Sure, reputation boosts SO participation but is hardly what drives SO. Take SO in some other industry (even with reputation) and you'll see it fail in most of them. Reputation, along with other factors, such as the style of questions, answers, tags, comments are what make SO unique but none of them are the driving force behind SO. I think the real driving force are the traits of people in the programming community. – LeakyCode Jul 13 '09 at 17:18
Programmers are also people. As such, they are also influenced by incentives. How many programming forums are there with 87,500 users and where you can get meaningful answers and those answers can benefit future seekers of wisdom. Now, the subject matter helps because most programming related issues, as opposed to those related to the law, economics, politics or even fashion modeling, have clear, concrete answers, but the incentives provided by the reputation system are what drive SO. – Sinan Ünür Jul 13 '09 at 22:01
The site has existed less than a year and has gained huge popularity since its launch. The notion that anything is "slowly killing" StackOverflow is laughable.
As to appropriateness of answers, this is an open site, with free flow of contributions, by design.
"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government, except all the others that have been tried." -- Winston Churchill
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By "slowly killing" I mean, "becoming yet another place where people can quickly get wrong answers to their questions". – jrockway Jul 13 '09 at 21:34
I wrote the article in question. I stand by my general observations, but the points about reputation brought up here are excellent. There is not much reputation to gain from answering questions incorrectly but quickly, and yet people do it anyway. I wonder what is causing this effect; there seems to be no gain, but I guarantee you that if someone asks a Perl question, there will be 5 answers in 5 minutes that are all wrong. It is interesting and confusing. (As to how this kills the site, I know a number of people who are active contributers in the Perl area who are just turned off by this. The see a question, formulate an answer, and then see six slightly-wrong variants. This just makes them mad, and they move on to something less frustrating. It happens to me, for sure.)
Also, some people noted that the golf example from my article was not referencing any one specific post on SO. That's true, but there is a lot of stuff in the Perl section that starts, "Golfing this down a bit, ..." and then they proceed to do a poor job golfing it down. Again, shutting up would be a lot better than posting, don't you think?
This annoyed me enough to blog about it, even if it's not every post.
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I think examples are in order. Now, I know nothing about Ruby, but I did answer a Ruby question once: stackoverflow.com/questions/1009280/… (notice I am shameless ;-) – Sinan Ünür Jul 13 '09 at 23:09
If they are wrong, down-vote them. I would go ahead and just post the answer, regardless of how many answers there are. Actually if you are a well known Perl programmer, you will be more likely to get voted up, even if your answer is not the best one. – Brad Gilbert Jul 13 '09 at 23:42
Thank you very much for participating. I hope you'll take some time to point out a few examples, preferably of different kinds. For instance, I expect there are many "I don't know Perl, but I know regular expressions, so I'll answer", but fewer, "I don't know Perl, but I know how C++ does libraries so I'll answer a CPAN question". – John Saunders Jul 13 '09 at 23:45
Also, I took a quick look at three [perl] questions. None of them had "I don't know perl but". If the author wants to make his point, he should give examples.
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examples speak much louder than anything else, anyway – Jeff Atwood Jul 13 '09 at 13:55
Anyone want to say the reason for a downvote on this? I actually did take the time to look, and I actually saw what I saw. Where's the room for dispute? – John Saunders Jul 13 '09 at 14:02
-1 for telling someone to provide examples and not providing any yourself. – GEOCHET Jul 13 '09 at 14:11
The first link has a -2 post that started like "I don't know Perl..." – Lance Roberts Jul 13 '09 at 15:38
Rich, examples of what? You wanted links to three Perl questions without "i don't know perl?" Really? – John Saunders Jul 13 '09 at 21:02
Which first link? The blog post? I don't see a link in the blog post. Can you post it and/or show me where I missed the link? – John Saunders Jul 13 '09 at 21:04
What difference does it make? It's not my problem if everyone gets bad Perl answers on SO. – jrockway Jul 13 '09 at 22:58
I don't know Perl, but....
Seriously, I spend my time in C# tag where I feel the answers to good, specific questions are quite good, and bad answers are quickly pointed out. For tags with less traffic I believe it would be more likely for this to become an issue. However, I believe, in that case, that the issue lies with the voting and not with the reputation system itself. If you don't know answer is correct/helpful, then you shouldn't be upvoting it.
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People don't get Jon Skeet-like levels of rep from "I don't know ****, but..."
Plus if anything: the problem would be in people upvoting mediocre or bad answers, not in having a rep-system per se.
As mentioned in some of the other answers, not knowing for sure if the answer is correct for that specific programming language doesn't neccesarily make it a wrong answer since not all questions are language specific.
Though, they can't guarantee knowing the right answer the first few times, after getting rep from these subjects they won't keep saying they don't know it if their previous answers were correct. Problem solved if you ask me.
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Reputation is a pain until you get about 50, and can up/down-vote and comment, and I think that early speed bump is the biggest problem with rep.
Regarding "I don't know Perl...", sometimes you can spot errors in the approach taken, or the implementation of an algorithm, without needing to know the language's syntax, or libraries. I answer questions on Server Fault with an approach that will work on any Unix, when a platform specific answer would be better, but not portable.
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I think the time before you hit rep 50 or 100 is good as it helps to hone ones SO skills; proper questions, proper answers. I don't think it's a problem, I think it encourages better content – Jeff Yates Jul 13 '09 at 14:31
I agree that it teaches you how the site works. It also separates the dedicated from the curious passers by. That means you have to have seen the value in the site before you put in the effort. – pgs Jul 13 '09 at 14:57
It's not an issue. If the answer is incorrect or too vague, people should down-vote that answer. That's the reason the voting/rep system works so well, it almost guarantees the best answer will be the highest or one of the highest voted answers.
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Nonsense. If you don't give a good answer, you don't get substantial reputation. Somebody could fool a couple people, but you're not going to get a reputation of considerable value by falsely claiming to know answers to technical questions.
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Why the downvote? – Jonathan Sampson Jul 13 '09 at 13:53
Just make a greasemonkey script to show that you are always on top with +10. – GEOCHET Jul 13 '09 at 14:05
Thank you Rich B. You brighten my SO experience. – jjnguy Jul 13 '09 at 14:11
@jjnguy: To be fair, I brighten everyone's SO experience. – GEOCHET Jul 13 '09 at 14:28
@Rich B: Flames may be bright, but flaming people != brightening. – Hilarious Comedy Pesto Jul 13 '09 at 14:34
The reputation system works just fine. The Perl is a lie.
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Is there a Stack Overflow address for mobile? or a Stack Overflow application for mobile?
I love Stack Overflow and would like to browse, reply and ask questions from my mobile without the need to load the standard site, but with a lighter one (for example, m.stackoverflow.com).
Does any of this exist?
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marked as duplicate by Grace Note, juanformoso, Ladybug Killer, Jon B, jjnguy Jul 23 '10 at 13:46
Should move to meta – Noel M Jul 23 '10 at 13:34
@Grace, yup, my bad. – jjnguy Jul 23 '10 at 13:46
There is a blackberry client in developpement on stackapps.com there is also an iPhone and Android version. – Michael B. Jul 23 '10 at 14:07
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http://stackmobile.com/ is one
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Have a look at StackMobile.com. It is a read only mobile optimized version of the Stack Exchange sites built on the Stack Exchange API.
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What do you think about adding the earned badges summary in the user profile?
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I'm aware that badges summary is pretty pervasive in several sections of the sites like Users tab, Questions and Answers.
I think that this information could be useful if someone is visiting the user profile from a comment, where badges are not reported.
Check this navigation pattern:
1. reading a questions/answers
2. find an hilarious comment
3. click on the user link
4. check who that guy/girl is* and his/her profile with badges
5. can't find that information
6. search user with Users tab
Personally I've stumbled into this pattern several times and from an usability standpoint, I'd like to see the badges summary in the user profile.
The same pattern can be applied to the Top Questions section where badges are not displayed. enter image description here
What do you think?
*Ok I know, Jon Skeet is not a great example here
this is now completed!
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+1 for using Jon Skeet as an example here. – jmort253 Feb 5 '11 at 2:45
Who is Jon Skeet? – Closure Cowboy Feb 12 '11 at 21:21
This would be nice, especially since the news users page will show users with rep weekly/monthly etc without the badge summary unless you hit all. – gideon Apr 2 '11 at 11:18
@ Closure Cowboy- see answer no. 3. – noawithouth Feb 2 '13 at 20:40
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up vote 5 down vote accepted
We will address this in a future user page redesign.
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and I guess the planned way of addressing it is different enough to justify [status-declined] instead of [status-deferred] ? – Daniel DiPaolo Apr 20 '11 at 20:26
@Daniel updated – Geoff Dalgas Apr 20 '11 at 20:30
That would be a great summation line for the badges shown at the bottom of the user profile page.
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up vote 10 down vote
I think it is time to revisit this question again. I have just answered this question Should the sportsmanship badge be awarded multiple times? and to provide more info, I was interested to know how many silver badges HRH Jon Skeet had.
Well, I duly went to /users, where HRH has permanent residence. The new user card shows more details, but no badge summary (I cannot recall if it had, before the change).
That's cool - let's click through to the user profile - no dice.
This is getting tricky, I choose one of HRH's answers - still no dice (I happened to pick one of the first questions showing, which was a CW).
At this point, it just feels stupid and frustrating - how hard should it be to see someone's badge summary? With the user profile being expanded vertically far below the 2nd column, surely the badge summary can sit snugly there?
Q: Hey officer, you have 4 stripes - is that a high rank?
A: I don't know, we rank by salary, not stripes
The analogy is that while badges decorate and in some cases mean more, salary is what brings home the bacon.
Which is better?
Rep 10k, Badges 1 G, 2 S, 17 B
Rep 5k, Badges 4 G, 10 S, 6 B
I don't know, but I would like to see both carry equal prominence in all places.
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I also don't see why not. If the site's code is reasonably well written, it shouldn't be much more work than a single method call, and it's got to be a reasonably efficient method to call, since it appears on every page header, so it shouldn't add too much system overhead. Granted, it's never going to be the highest priority thing to change, but for the amount of work involved, surely it could be slipped in? – Spudley Mar 12 '11 at 16:48
@systempuntoout Thanks :) I just got past 2000 and I love being able to do more with the privileges. But give it another couple of weeks, I'll slap another 500 on this question. – RichardTheKiwi Mar 19 '11 at 8:42
thanks for the multimillionaire Bounty :) – systempuntoout Apr 5 '11 at 6:37
The badges are listed in detail on the bottom of the user profile page, so in my mind a summary at the top is not needed.
Your example of navigation based on comments is valid, but I would assume the majority of the time people click on a user profile, they do so from a question, answer, or user page. All of which contain this summary already.
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You expect to count Jon Skeet's badges instead of seeing a ready summary? – RichardTheKiwi Feb 18 '11 at 3:08
@cyber, Jon Skeet's badges are already totaled on every one of his posts, edits, and on the user page. So you see the total before you click on his profile for the detail. – jzd Feb 18 '11 at 3:32
The million dollar question is - since it's so pervasive, "why not?" Do you have something against it? – RichardTheKiwi Feb 18 '11 at 3:40
@cyber, I guess the reason why not is that it is necessary. There are plenty of other features that do increase usability that I would like to see completed instead of working on this request. – jzd Feb 18 '11 at 11:37
Since this is meta where we discuss and propose stuff, is there an alternative site/queue for lower priority feature requests? Btw, you're also saying, why have the reputation in gigantic font on the user page. reduce its size by just 1 and put the badge summary under it. – RichardTheKiwi Feb 18 '11 at 11:46
@Cyber, I like the size on the font. And since the badge summary is next to a large majority of the links to the user profile, I think it is not needed on the user page. So I propose we don't make this change at all. – jzd Feb 18 '11 at 12:28
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Submitted by Valay 1011d ago | news
Metal Gear 25th anniversary will have “exciting announcements”, “industry will be shaken”
Kojima Productions Report podcaster Ken Mendoza hyped up the upcoming proceedings on the latest episode by saying there will be “a lot of exciting announcements.” (Industry, Metal Gear, PS3, Xbox 360)
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Whitefeather + 1011d ago
Really looking forward to this, I'm hoping for an MGS5, MG 1 n 2 remake, Old Snake n Raiden in PSABR and ummm a surprise because that's all I can think of.
SnakePayne + 1011d ago
it's will be MGS5..
Whitefeather + 1011d ago
There will be 4 announcements not just one.
CaJuaLFeatPuFF + 1011d ago
It's MGS5
Capt-FuzzyPants + 1011d ago
I usually don't care, but do you have a problem with using the word "it." Cause you made the same mistake on another comment on this page. Just sayin.
Ayway, I hope the remake MGS1. I've never played any Metal Gear games, but I'm interested in them. I didn't get the most recen cause it doesn't include the first one and I want to play all of them in order, since I'm told the story is intricate and can be confusing. So hopefully it gets remade.
sikbeta + 1011d ago
"MGS5 = WII-U Exclusive" -> trollface...you mad?.jpg
Must be MGS5 multi no doubt, there is nothing bigger than that coming from Konami...
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BiggCMan + 1010d ago
What are the dates for the US?
BlackPrince 42 + 1010d ago
A next generation MGS5 will probably get an announcement trailer. Kojima has been saying he wants to show off the Fox Engine, so that seems most likely.
jeseth + 1010d ago
MGS5 PS Exclusive. Please be so.....that abortion MG Rising makes me worried of a MGS multiplat game!
A MGS5 game on 360 now would be like 17 discs anyways ... why even bother?
2v1 + 1010d ago
is mgs4 for 360
zeeshan + 1010d ago
The MGS4 was probably the last PS3 exclusive MGS game. I pretty sure that the announcement will be of MGS5 for Wii U, PS3 and 360. I don't care if it requires Konami to put the game on multiple disks for 360. The quality should be nothing short of what we saw in MGS4.
I hope that 360, Wii U and PS3 gamers will get to go on another fantastic adventure with Solid Snake!
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doogiebear + 1010d ago
ALL I CARE ABOUT IS GETTING A NEW MGO (Metal Gear Online), he just recently shut down its servers so fans of it are heartbroken. We need it to come back or at least a new one. Other than that, we dont care. I love the mgs campaigns, but i love me some mgo too.
Whitefeather + 1010d ago
He didn't do it, Konami did.
Who + 1010d ago
I agree.
Me, along with many buddies (most of which I met through MGO) miss it! I hope they bring it back maybe as a standalone?
After the recent trophy patch, the way the wording was for the MGO data was a little suspicious. I mean, there were so many warnings about the MGO data being deleted before installing the patch, then afterwards, 'The MGO data has been deleted' or something to that effect. It was like a shot to the face. I just hope it was foreshadowing some form of MGO that can start anew with better servers and log-in system.
There is no other game I can find that can replace or even match the gaming experience I've had with MGO. I wish I'd taken pictures.
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WeskerChildReborned + 1010d ago
I most likely think MGS5 will make a showing.
NonApplicable + 1010d ago
I don't want to be a downer but, whenever Kojima Productions has an announcement, it's always dragged out... and over hyped.
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Drithe + 1010d ago
When Kojima speaks ... the world listens!
doogiebear + 1010d ago
Then gets dissapointed because he over hypes every announcement before it's made.
How will mgs "shake up the whole industry?". I LOVE MGS and MGO, but that statement is bold considering that one company's game is unlikely to have an effect on other game companies.
UNLESS: He were to say it was coming for PS4. That could possibly shake up the entire industry only because an announcement like that would be the first ever SHOWN ps4 game and the first legal official announcement of a PS4.
But other than that, I dont see how 1 game will shake up the Rest of the industry.
jwatt + 1010d ago
Metal gear Movie
RustedMan + 1010d ago
Metal Gear Solid....on a calculator!
SlavisH2 + 1011d ago
mgs4 for xbox and wii U
Paragon + 1011d ago
wenaldy + 1011d ago
Not sure if trolling
PoSTedUP + 1011d ago
unfortunately he isn't because i thought the same thing, it's rather intelligent because that's the only thing we can think of that will "shake" the industry, think about it. that or MGS5. i really hope it's not true so Please disagree with me. but honestly that is the only thing i can think of and it's worrying me, im almost sick..
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BlackPrince 42 + 1010d ago
Not likely, there's too much data in MGS4 to make it into an Xbox game. It'd end up being 5-6 discs for a four year old game that probably wouldn't shift as many units as a new game.
It wouldn't be worth the effort.
MrBeatdown + 1010d ago
An announcement of a next-gen MGS would be a big deal, regardless of which next-gen platforms it's on.
The first actual footage of something targeting that next-gen hardware would be pretty damn huge.
Something like that is the only thing that would actually "shake the industry" if you ask me. It actually has industry-wide implications. It means it's time for the industry to start showing what we all know is happening behind the scenes. Either that, or it's some revolutionary change (at least to Kojima) to the MGS formula.
Something as simple as a port of a four year old game isn't that big of a deal. It's just an excuse for fanboys to argue, not a reason for the whole industry to take notice.
But then again, these things are usually overhyped. Kojima could be announcing a new collection of MGS-themed stickers.
SnakePayne + 1011d ago
yup, one of announcements will be metal gear solid 4 subsistence for x360 & pc.
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BigStef71 + 1011d ago
Lmao Kojima said it is never coming out on 360
S-T-F-U + 1011d ago
He also said MGS2 was the last MGS. Here we are waiting for the fifth...
Neoprime + 1010d ago
If this is a way to get MGO2/Metal Gear Online 2 back online i'm all for it.
MasterCornholio + 1011d ago
I guess 360 owners will have to change loads of disks.
Anyways on a more serious note I don't think that MGS4 will come to any other platform.
I expect Kojima to announce the following.
1. New character for All Stars
2. Zone of Enders 3
3. MGS5
4. A new game for the Vita based on the Metal Gear franchise.
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SPARDA_426 + 1011d ago
Thats would be the perfect announcement, and then showcase the games during TGS, this would make this year historic.
Old McGroin + 1011d ago
Jeez, "people" like you still resort to the lazy having-to-change-disc trolling attack on the 360? That's pretty sad.
One bubble eh?
Revolver_X_ + 1010d ago
@Old Mcgroin
Sad that its fact? Xbox Disc hold 10GB, but can only use 9GBs. Hideo had to postpone MGS4 because the 25GB blu ray disc was too small. MGS4 uses a 50GB blu ray disc, this translates to a 5 disc Xbox game. Microsoft will not cover costs after 2 discs. So disc 3-5 would come out of Konami's pocket. Not profitable. All this was talked about when MGS4 came out. How quickly they forget. By all means keep dreaming.
mynd + 1010d ago
Wasn't Final Fantasy XIII larger than MGS4 on the PS3, just sayin.....
rezzah + 1010d ago
that wouldn't be a good thing for Konami.
If a game requires 3 disc or more, the production of that third disc + will come out of the publisher's pockets.
mynd + 1010d ago
Production of all the discs come out of their pocket, what on earth are you talking about?
Are you referring to the myth in regards to Rage and royalties?
""It was a simple kind of miscommunication. Microsoft does not charge a royalty per disc, but there is a cost of goods that goes along with manufacturing."
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Septic + 1010d ago
At least 360 owners wouldn't have to wait an age for mandatory installs.I'd prefer the 10 second it takes to change discs any day.
rezzah + 1010d ago
So it was a misunderstanding all this time huh.
DeletedAcc + 1011d ago
Hahahaa!!! Sorry but kojima loves the ps3 ( and her bluray drive )
Eat THIS!!!!
j-blaze + 1011d ago
"kojima loves the ps3"
lol Kojima isn't ND....Kojima simply want to FOCUS his work on one system to make his games, but this will change now and he'll bring his next game be it Metal Gear or any game on MS console, Nintendo and probably PC this sure this will burn those fanboys including you, just wait for the news!
oh and take a look at this:
oh as for the awesome bluray... i would rather swap discs than waiting half an hour for the game to install then wait five minute for installs between every chapter -__-
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Wintersun616 + 1010d ago
Umm, you could do that, if you even owned a PS3. Except that it's a 15 minute install once, or 2 minute installs between the 5 chapters. Why don't you get your facts straight before you start spewing your BS the next time, m'kay?
NastyLeftHook0 + 1010d ago
If you want metal gear solid 4 buy a ps3. its simple.
AmkOwns + 1010d ago
Get a ps3 bud, (it's like me asking to bring Mario or somthing on ps3 pffft like that will happen..)
SAE + 1010d ago
won't happen even if kojima want it because xbox360 uses dvds , mgs5 would take at least 30gb .....
DaThreats + 1011d ago
MGS5 PS3 exclusive
Locksus + 1011d ago
Unlikely. Hideo Kojimas said at MS' E3 2009 conference that they'll be bringing the MGS franchise to the Xbox so MGS5 will probably be multiplatform.
BigStef71 + 1011d ago
When he said that he said he was talking about the next mgs installment which was supposed to be rising when it still had the mgs name. Even that douche Don Mattrick tried to make it seem snake was coming to 360 and hideo responded "Don I didn't say anything about solid snake"
Do u have source of him actually saying that? If that is the case why was mgs4 never released on 360?
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SnakePayne + 1011d ago
sadly, it's will be multiplatform & kojima said that so don't try to tell us some of your bullsh*t
the game will be multiplatform.
hell yea.
Locksus + 1011d ago
@BigStef 71
They've already brought MGS HD collection to the 360 and MGR is coming.
They're not bringing the MGS4 to the 360 because it doesn't have bluray so it would take far too many discs and Sony and KojiPro might have an exclusive deal on MGS4, I don't know.
But they've already brought multiple MGS games to the 360 so why stop here? It's not a PS exclusive franchise anymore and they'll make more profit by going multiplat.
Locksus + 1011d ago
Seriously guys? care to even explain why you disagreed with me?
Oh, is that the sound of butthurt I'm hearing?
BigStef71 + 1011d ago
Ok one of those games is last gen and the other is not even being made by Kojima himself. Kojima had to use a full 50GB dual layer for mgs4 so what makes you think that he would not have to do the same for mgs5 which could possibly be a bigger and that means if its on 360 then we are talking about a shit ton of discs. Also the game would be dumped down like FF13 and FF13-2 were since it would be multiplatform. I know the new game would use the fox engine which was built for multiplatform but that doesn't mean the game itself will be. Just look at the gears of war series only on 360 built on a multiplatform engine. So I have to disagree with your response. I personally think mgs5 will be a ps3 exclusive cuz kojima loves playstation and every major mgs game has come out exclusively or first on the playstation consoles
abzdine + 1011d ago
bringing Metal Gear and not SOLID.
It was MG: Rising he was talking about after it was called Metal gear SOLID: Rising and he said himself he didn't SAY ANYTHING ABOUT SOLID SNAKE during that same conference.
don't talk without proof
Locksus : You say yourself MGS4 is exclusive PS3 because of space issues. Do you really think MGS5 will require less space ? I really doubt it.
I'll even say that what will shock the industry is that MGS5 will be made with Naughty Dog's help after Kojima went to pay them a visit last month.
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ALLWRONG + 1011d ago
Metal Gear is multiplat, get over it.
Genmu + 1010d ago
he said RAIDEN
when the retard that talk for the m$ conferance said " so mr kojima,do will we finally see snake on the xbox ? "
kojima DIRECTLY cut his speech and said " whoah wait a minute,no snake,i never mentioned snake "
go check the conferance again.
TheMasterShake + 1010d ago
have you ever heard of MGS Rising, thats what they showed coming to xbox.
YodaCracker + 1010d ago
That Snake exchange between Don Mattrick and Kojima was obviously scripted.
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1Victor + 1010d ago
I disagreed just for fun .
anyway most likely it will be Z.O.E 3 we been awaiting that since forever
abzdine + 1011d ago
that will for sure shake the world.
Kojima was very excited about the PS3/Vita interaction and he wanted to make something using that feature.
I have high hopes the next MGS will be PS3 exclusive.
Genmu + 1010d ago
and he had an exclusive interview with gamespot (search it)
when he was working on project ogre,and was talking how he cant wait to work ps3/vita interaction.
NastyLeftHook0 + 1010d ago
It was done with metal gear solid 4, why not 5?
Paragon + 1011d ago
I would definitely like to see a MGS5 announcement.
No-Kill, Stealth, Cutscenes, etc.
More Metal Gear Solidness. *Dons Bandana*
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Moby-Royale + 1011d ago
*hands you a cigarette*
*leans in and whispers* Cigarettes can be harmful to your health.....
*scampers away*
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Paragon + 1010d ago
*Leans on tombstone*
This is good... isn't it?
*Sits there*
*Cigarette drops*
Omega Zues + 1011d ago
It may be the Enders project. Hes been working on it over a year now.
NexGen + 1011d ago
Yes, because it makes total sense to announce ZoE during metal gear's anniversary.
Moby-Royale + 1011d ago
Oooooo kitty's got CLAWS!
The Great Melon + 1010d ago
I'll take another Zone of the Enders over MGS. Heck if it isn't ZOE, I hope Kojima is doing something completely new. We need to give him a chance to make another iconic franchise. Gamers and publishers are stifling him by incessantly talking only about MGS.
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Summons75 + 1011d ago
MGS5 featuring Big Boss in a game bigger than MGS4 please =] Can never get enough Big Boss
NYC_Gamer + 1011d ago
Can't wait to see the new engine in action
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TopDudeMan + 1011d ago
Sounds good.
refocusedman + 1011d ago
Mgo as a psn and xbla stand alone download.
TheColbertinator + 1011d ago
Would love to play MGO on Live.
CaJuaLFeatPuFF + 1011d ago
Metal Gear Eva: Striptease Of the Patriots LMFAO
CaitSith + 1010d ago
Edit: Don't know why you got disagrees. It made me smile, at least. xD
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xXBlondieVanHarlowXx + 1011d ago
I'm shaking already!! O_O
ame22 + 1011d ago
“Industry will be shaken”, my heart can't take it anymore.
LOL_WUT + 1011d ago
Ck1x + 1011d ago
Why would the industry be shaken by a MGS5 announcement? Unless this is Kojima's last game or last Metal Gear game, I don't think anything else will shake the industry really... He was quoted awhile back saying that he wanted to move on to other things. Who knows what he has planned though!
ScubaSteve1 + 1011d ago
hopefully its a 25th anniversary collection like they did for the 20th anniversary
Romudeth + 1011d ago
MGS5 with new protagonist?
turgore + 1011d ago
Hmmm...what could shake the industry ? Maybe they will show the fox engine in depht
DeletedAcc + 1011d ago
Metal Gear Solid 5 with Fox Engine @__@
(ps3 exclusive of course!)
SAE + 1010d ago
maybe , just maybe a pc port too with mods >.< , or mgs5 for ps4 which would make everyone excited because they are using fox engine which will need a powerfull console to make a special game ...
just a guess ...
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Soldierone + 1011d ago
I think it'd have to affect the entire industry. So perhaps the Fox Engine will be available to other developers? Or something to do with similar motives? I highly doubt he has anything to say about a new console.
Perhaps he is showing off Vita/PS3 things that haven't been done just yet, who knows.
ab5olut10n + 1011d ago
would be cool if they made their engine available, very cool. i'd like to see more devs license their tech. it certainly couldn't hurt the industry.
Sizzon + 1011d ago
Awesome, can't wait to see/hear what it is!
DigitalAnalog + 1011d ago
MG1 & MG2: Solid Snake Remastered.
ab5olut10n + 1011d ago
MGS remastered would kill in so many ways
StayStatic + 1011d ago
I so want this , heard rumours it will be MSG5 , not like they are going to start releasing the story in sequential order now lol , to hell with logic :D
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USEYOURFIST + 1011d ago
Mgs5 ps4 launch title lol, i think the shake the industry quote is probably overhype and the announcment is actually MGS5 with continuous crossplay on the vita
DivineAssault + 1011d ago
I hope they do a MGS5 w PS Vita integration.. maybe Kojima will be working with other dev teams & announce a new groundbreaking IP.. Who knows? But ill be watching
AlienLion + 1011d ago
Shaken, not stirred.
SierraXraySeven + 1011d ago
Really hoping for the game about the Cobra Unit's exploits before MGS3 that didn't come to fruition.
THamm + 1010d ago
A new all co op Metal Gear for current gen consoles, Also a peek at MGS5 for next gen. Grey Fox chapter in Rising for pre orders or dlc
zFEARLESSz + 1010d ago
MGS5 announced for PS3/VITA, there you go the next MGS title coming to multiple platforms.
feraldrgn + 1010d ago
A MGS game for the PS3 & Vita to utilise Cross-Buy.
That'd be nice & get a few more Vitas out there.
jperez96 + 1010d ago
As nice as that would be, i think it'd be better to just be vita exclusive because people wont buy it just for ports.
Hicken + 1010d ago
Why is it that any time someone brings up a bonus for the Vita, people go, "No one will buy it JUST for X?"
Seems like they always "conveniently" forget that there's X, Y, Z, Q, T, L, A, R, and O as well. I mean it's got or will have half the freakin alphabet, but everything else disappears when one letter is talked about. Sheesh.
So maybe they won't buy it "just for ports." But ports, exclusives, features, PS1 classics, and so on? Maybe, just MAYBE that'll be enough to get some people interested?
nukeitall + 1010d ago
"Maybe, just MAYBE that'll be enough to get some people interested?"
That is what Sony is hoping for! However, it doesn't seem to be working and this time PS Vita don't have the brand power to save them like the PS3.
ado908 + 1010d ago
Now Metal Gear solid 5 has to be announced damn it. Also I hope the game does't turn multi platform and the game gets gimped. But then again Kojima never fails to impress with the metal gear solid franchise so I trust him multi platform or not.
urwifeminder + 1010d ago
I never liked his work i respect it but not my thing hate stealth gaming.
RyuX19 + 1010d ago
And we are supposed to care why?
urwifeminder + 1010d ago
Well everyone else is entitled to an opinion but i guess i dont really care ok hes a god fixed.
RyuX19 + 1010d ago
I'm just wondering why you felt the need to comment if you don't even like him. I don't think he is God I'm not an MGS Fanboy, but I don't understand why someone would go to an article just to say that you didn't care for this person's work especially if you don't even care for the genre.
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New Assassin's Creed comic will hint at franchise's future
India-set Brahman comic book features "extremely strong hints" about where the franchise is headed after ACIV: Black Flag. (Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag, Culture, PC, PS3, PS4, Ubisoft, Wii U, Xbox 360, Xbox One)
jameson12345 + 678d ago
Eh....maybe its time for a break for a couple years after black flag. Maybe like 2 years or so. Its starting to get stale. Yearly games can destroy the greatest of franchises.
ApolloTheBoss + 678d ago
Should have took a break after AC2.
theWB27 + 678d ago
What would that do? The games each have a 2 or 3 year dev cycle. Ubisoft has already stated they have 3 Assassins Creed in development as we speak.
The author says most likely Black Flag, next years release, and the year after that. It's my fav franchise so keep it coming.
phantomexe + 678d ago
@ theWB27 same man i love the series. It's be hard to pick between AC or uncharted. I buy anything AC that fills in the bigger story from books or comics.
3-4-5 + 678d ago
Futuristic Cyber Assassins Creed 2178
Neanderthal Assassins Creed lol
Biohazard8860 + 678d ago
If it gets stale to you just don't buy it.
Mr_Nuts + 678d ago
It was already hinted at in AC3 with it's ending
Juno is now free and wants to control the world...we now need to find a way to stop her
With AC4 where the present missions are now optional thats been thrown out the window. They should of kept Desmond around for this but looks like you would have to play his father now. Hell it's not even hinted that we'll deal with the Juno situation in AC4
Why is it they do AC4 with a subtitle, don't give any thought to that kind of ending they left us with in the present timeline and then talk about where it could go in the future. I still believe this is basicaly what Brotherhood and Revelation was to AC2, just Connor was so bad we play his grandfather instead. They only called in AC4 because they would get more sales that way
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mgszelda1 + 678d ago
I agree with just about everything u said, except I liked Connor.
He cared about revenge and his ppl above all else
Megatron316 + 678d ago
revive prince of persia already instead of making an assassin which imitates him, please for gods sake what a disgrace you are becoming. PoP made you now you are going to bastardise it??
CrossingEden + 678d ago
-_- yes, prince of persia created ubisoft, in fact, prince of persia developed itself, not the other way around, and no other ubisoft game can take place even remotely near the same "time period" as prince of persia without being considered a bastardization, this is your logic
pr0t0typeknuckles + 678d ago
i really hope this doesnt happen,it would be like a slap in the face to pop fans,we already got a crappy mobile game,and forgotten sands wasnt very good either,but now assassins creed is becoming prince of persia wtf ubisoft.
phantomexe + 678d ago
already preordered mine...I love the AC world they have created. The AC novel forsaken was great and really fills in the events before and during AC3. The comics are great as well and i wish they do more.
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Pearl Abyss confirms to be planning a console release for Black Desert, but development hasn't even started yet. (Black Desert Online, PC, PearlAbyss, PS4, Xbox One)
Festano + 560d ago
It 'a good opportunity to make known this game also allows users to ps4 and Xbox1.
MazzingerZ + 560d ago
It will be ready first on PS4, I wonder if they will hold the release until the X1 version is ready?
christocolus + 560d ago
Huh? Where in the article was that stated?
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DeadlyFire + 560d ago
I doubt it will take them long. Look at Planetside 2, Warframe, Blacklight and so on for PS4. Took them less than a year to build/port a PS4 version from their code. Well PS2 is still in development, but its launch comes out sooner than Driveclub I believe.
Chrono + 560d ago
Those are from companies that are experienced with console gaming though.
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True. It's a lot more than just getting the game up and running. The controls and menus have to optimized for the console experience.
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(猿飛一族, Sarutobi Ichizoku)
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The Sarutobi clan (猿飛一族, Sarutobi Ichizoku) is an influential clan from Konohagakure. It has produced several notable members who have held positions of high authority, such as Hokage, and membership in the Twelve Guardian Ninja. All known members have also been observed devotees of the Will of Fire.
Not much is known of this clan but to strengthen the unity between the Akimichi, Nara, and Yamanaka clans, it has become a tradition that a member of the Sarutobi clan give each of the members of the current Ino–Shika–Chō trio special earrings when they swear their oaths.[1] Several members were also seen during the Fourth Shinobi World War in the battle against Madara, Obito Uchiha, and the Ten-Tails. They used the Fire Release: Great Flame Technique to quickly dry the quicklime which was covering the beast.[2]
Great Flame Technique
Members of the Sarutobi clan using Fire Release.
The Sarutobi are famous for their high willpower, and exceptionally strong shinobi. All the members which have been shown fighting — with the exception of Konohamaru who has only done so in the anime[3] — have displayed the ability to use Fire Release nature transformation.[2] The members of this clan seem to be able to easily master high-level techniques, as Hiruzen became revered as the "God of Shinobi", and Konohamaru managed to learn A-rank techniques, such as the Rasengan, at a young age.
Other Notable Clan Members
• During the Fourth Shinobi World War, a group of Sarutobi clan members attacked the Ten-Tails by super-heating the cement-like substance which the beast had been trapped in.[2]
• Sarutobi means 'monkey jump': 'Saru' () is the character for 'monkey', and "Tobi" () is the character for "jump".
• The clan name 'Sarutobi' (as well the name of Hiruzen's father) comes from the famous ninja, Sarutobi Sasuke.
• Sasuke Uchiha was given the name of one of the clan's members in the hope that he would grow up to be a great shinobi just like him.[4]
1. Naruto chapter 533, page 12
2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 Naruto chapter 612, pages 12-13
3. Naruto: Shippūden episode 234
4. Naruto chapter 500, page 11
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Carol Thatcher
In 2005 Carol Thatcher won I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here!
The BBC is considering the future of Carol Thatcher as a contributor after she was reported for using racist language during a private conversation.
Backstage at The One Show, the former prime minister's daughter referred to a tennis player as a "golliwog".
A spokesman for the 55-year-old, who has contributed to the show for three years, said the comment had been "an off-the-cuff remark made in jest".
The BBC said the matter was being discussed "as a matter of urgency".
A BBC spokesman said: "The BBC considers any language of a racist nature wholly unacceptable. We have raised the issue with the individual concerned and are discussing it as a matter of urgency."
Thatcher's spokesman told The Times she made the remark in a conversation with the show's presenter Adrian Chiles in the green room and it was "meant as a joke".
"Carol never intended any racist comment," he said.
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"She made a light aside about this tennis player and his similarity to the golliwog on the jam pot when she was growing up.
"There's no way, obviously, that she would condone any racist comment - we would refute that entirely. It would not be in her nature to do anything like that.
"It is disgusting that we've had a leak of private conversations in the green room - the BBC has more leaks than Thames Water.
"Carol is mortified that anyone should take offence at a silly joke. She has summarily apologised."
According to press reports, the comment was made during a conversation about the Australian Open tennis tournament, in reference to a player who had recently been knocked out of the men's singles draw.
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Treatment would be based on cells taken from the baby's own bone marrow
Newborn babies with brain damage could be treated by stem cell therapy using cells taken from their bone marrow.
Researchers told the BA Festival of Science they successfully transplanted human foetal cells from bone marrow into the brains of newborn mice.
Dr Huseiyn Mehmet of Imperial College hopes to use the technique to replace dead tissue in the brains of babies.
He said they could also be cooled, as this seemed to delay the natural cell death that follows brain injury.
Cooling therapy
There are several causes of brain damage in newborn babies.
Babies born at term can have the blood supply to their brain broken off, called hypoxia, when the umbilical cord becomes wrapped around their necks. This can result in debilitating injury to the brain.
A national study has also shown that babies born before 30 weeks have an 80% chance of some form of neurological deficit.
The researchers, led by Dr Mehmet, showed that human foetal stem cells could integrate into the brains of mouse foetuses which are still in the wombs of their mothers.
Transplantation of foetal stem cells could be combined with cooling therapy, which seems to slow down the advancing process of cell death following brain injury.
"The idea would be that when babies were born you would cool them, saving many of the cells," Dr Mehmet said.
"By reducing the body temperature by 3C over 12 hours, we get a substantial improvement in animal trials and now initial clinical trials.
"Later on you could take out some of the bone marrow, tweak it so you trigger some differentiation in the brain cells' lineages - not all the way, of course.
"Then depending on what that individual's deficit is you can then transplant some of the stem cell lineages into the brain."
Cell difference
Foetal stem cells are the equivalent of adult stem cells except that they are taken from the newborn.
They differ from the embryonic stem cells which can form all the cells in the body of an organism.
When tissue is damaged, cells around the damaged area start to die through a natural process of attrition called apoptosis.
This occurs because the dead cells in the damaged area no longer provide them with the survival signals they require to survive. Cooling could be effective in slowing down this process.
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Hidden Powers of Your Mouse
You use your mouse for just about everything: you drag, you drop, you highlight, you scroll. But even if you click your mouse a thousand times a day, I bet I've got a few secret mouse tricks you've never heard of.
Click Tricks
You surely know that double clicking highlights a word, and you might even know that triple clicking highlights a paragraph. But have you ever wanted to select a column of text in a Word document, without getting all the text to the left and right of it? Here's how you can: Hold down the alt and left mouse button (on a Mac, option-left mouse), and drag the cursor over the section you want to select. The coolest thing about this trick is that the text you are selecting does not even need to be formatted as a column for this to work.
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Scroll Tricks
Most mice have a scroll wheel. Sure, it takes you up and down on a page, but in combination with other keys, it can do much more:
• Scroll sideways: In many versions of Excel, holding down the shift key while scrolling will take you sideways. That's super helpful in a big spreadsheet.
• Scroll wheel as back button: In most web browsers, if you hold the shift key while using the scroll wheel, it works like the back button: You can fly through all the sites you've recently visited. (Some mice have side buttons that work like back and forward buttons in your browser, too.)
• Scroll to zoom: Holding ctrl and scrolling lets you zoom in or out of the page you're viewing. Ctrl-scroll up zooms you in; ctrl-scroll down zooms you back out. On a Mac, this trick will zoom in and out your whole screen, not just the document you're in.
Windows-Specific Tricks
While most of the tricks I've listed so far work in either Windows or Mac OS, here are a few that are specific to Windows machines:
• To maximize a window: drag the title bar to the top.
• To minimize all windows except the active window: "Shake" the title bar. Then if you want to restore all the windows you just minimized with this shortcut, just click again on the title bar of the window in view.
• To view two windows in a 50-50 split: Drag the title bar of one document to the left edge of your screen, then drag a second document to the right edge; they will snap into position in a nifty side-by-side view.
Bonus Sneaky Trick
Suppose you want to walk away from your hyper-secure work computer for a few minutes and not have to re-log in when you get back. Sure, you could change the sleep settings, but this idea is much more clever: Set your mouse on top of your analog watch or a clock. The mouse tracks the second hand's movement and it tricks your computer into thinking you're still busy working. Of course, there are valid security reasons for NOT using this trick, but I still think it's cool that it works.
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SAN FRANCISCO — Wikipedia has gone dark as part of a protest over legislation in Congress intended to crack down on online piracy.
The English version of the online encyclopedia shut down at midnight.
The Web site will be inaccessible for 24 hours to protest the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), introduced in the House of Representatives, and the Senate version, the Protect IP Act (PIPA).
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This article reports on the resurgence of classical and Christian education in the United States. This education has been especially popular with evangelical homeschooling mother-teachers. It seeks to cultivate the biblical virtues of truth, goodness, and beauty through contemplating scripture. The curriculum relies on the ancient Trivium tools of knowledge, understanding, and wisdom in order to do this. The inquiry seeks to examine the contexts surrounding a mother-teacher's classical and Christian educational practice guided by two questions: (1) Why and how does an evangelical homeschooling mother-teacher use classical and Christian tools? (2) What are the possibilities and challenges of classical and Christian homeschooling for an evangelical mother-teacher? This curriculum is illustrated with the portrait of April Greene, an evangelical homeschooling mother-teacher of two preteen boys. April enacted agency through the complex and dynamic development of her children and herself. April engaged the Trivium using bricolage, making educational meanings by picking and choosing from available resources and tactics to suit her purposes of intellectual and Christian identity formation. She moved beyond the borders of the official curriculum to create unofficial practices as well. These choices allowed her to negotiate the requirements of evangelical identity and the fact that living and leading in the world may require some knowledge of popular culture. April experienced possibilities related to classical and Christian curriculum, pedagogical tools, and mother-teacher identity. Classical and Christian education also presented a number of difficulties for April regarding cost, time, child agency, perspective taking, isolation, and gender burden. April's identity and agency as a mother-teacher reflected her intense devotion. She struggled with competing roles and expectations while thriving on the unique challenge of becoming an evangelical homeschooling mother-teacher.
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The interactions between dominance status, feeding rate and growth in rainbow trout, Salmo gairdneri Richardson, were analyzed using published data on experimental populations. There was a positive correlation between metabolic expenditure and food intake in both dominant and subordinate fish, but dominants obtained a greater intake for a given expenditure than did subordinates. Subordinates that adopted a high–return/high–cost foraging strategy actually expended more energy than they acquired, whereas those that minimized energy expenditure obtained a net energy gain. This led to the surprising finding that the growth rate of subordinates was negatively correlated with food intake.
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2. Continuing as a professional cricket player for the United States Salman Ahmad
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• My favorite aspects of biology are evolution and human physiology.
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• I really enjoy solving problems, especially word problems. Math has always been one of my favorite subjects.
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• I am not very worried about the class at the moment. The math so far has been pretty dense, but I have taken four years of computer science, so I am not worried about the computer aspect of the class.
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Baptists are a variety of Evangelical Protestantism. Baptists claim 90 million members worldwide, approximately seventy percent of which reside in the United States.
Historical origins
Baptists cannot trace their denomination's beginnings to any one founder. Most reputable historians teach that John Smyth and Thomas Helwys, two Englishmen connected to the separatist movement from the Church of England, gave this group its general ideas, though. Smyth and Helwys disagreed with the Church of England on doctrines such as infant baptism (hence the name Baptist), ecclesiastical authority, and church-state relations, among other things. Since the separatist movement was persecuted by the English government, Smyth exiled himself to the Netherlands and established the first Baptist church there in 1609. Helwys, however, stayed in England and started the first English Baptist church two years later. Today, this schismatic group is referred to as the General Baptists. Years later, though, the Particular Baptists, who shared a more Calvinist theology, arose. They offically emerged in 1644 with their London Confession of Faith.
Some also believe the Baptists got their start from the Anabaptists. However, this is unlikely, due to the fact that Baptists and Anabaptists disagree on many issues (such as practices and doctrines relating to church discipline and pacifism).
Another view known as Landmarkism teaches that the first Baptists were the discples of St. John the Baptist. This, however, is extremely unlikely as Baptism espouses many doctrines that developed either in post-schism Catholicism or in other Protestant sects, more than a millennium after Christ. The most notable denomination that holds this view is the American Baptists.
Since there are at least sixty-five Baptist bodies with no structured ecclesiology, it's hard to precisely define their doctrines. Nevertheless, there are some points common to all Baptists. For example, most adherents place strong emphasis on the independence of the individual person ("individual soul liberty"), independence of the each church, affirmation of the believer's baptism, and distinctively American concepts such as freedom of religion and separation of church and state.
Orthodoxy disagrees with Baptists on:
Church authority
Baptists are part of the "congregationalist" heresy, meaning that they don't have bishops or any traditional ecclesiological structures. Instead, Congregationalist church governance gives autonomy to individual local churches in areas of policy, polity and doctrine. Baptist churches are not under the direct administrative control of any other body, such as a national council, or a leader such as a bishop or pope. Administration, leadership and doctrine are usually decided democratically by the lay members of each individual church, which accounts for the variation of beliefs from one Baptist church to another. Such a system allows for each person to decide independently to believe whatever they wish, making it effectively impossible for a single Tradition or the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church to be preserved. Also, Baptists ascribe to a doctrine called the "priesthood of all believers." This notion states that every Christian has direct access to God and the truths found in the Bible using his own rational faculties, without the help of a priest to cleanse the noetic faculty to see the Light of Christ. Thus priests are made into mere church leaders or financial managers, not guides of Christian life as the presiders of the Divine Liturgy.
Baptists firmly believe in sola Scriptura (Scripture alone). Properly understood, this is the concept of Scripture as a unified whole, utilizing literary critism called "historical Biblical scholarship," which was pioneered in the late 19th century, while rejecting the previous two millennia of commentaries by the Holy Fathers. Orthodoxy, however, knows Holy Tradition to hold and interpret the Bible within itself. Like all Protestants, Baptists reject the deuterocanonical books of the Old Testament, considering them to be less than divinely inspired. Biblical inerrancy is yet another common heresy among fundamentalist Baptists.
Baptism, commonly referred to as believer's baptism among Baptists, is an ordinance that according to Baptist doctrine plays no role in salvation. That is, the act of baptism does not actually save a person or cleanse him from all his sins. Instead, it is merely an outward observance, properly performed only after salvation, which occurs when a person professes Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. This completely opposes Orthodoxy, which regards baptism as a real supernatural transformation, through which the believer dies and rises again with Christ in a very real manner.
Through Anabaptist influence, Baptists reject the practice of pedobaptism, or infant baptism, because they believe parents cannot make a decision of salvation for an infant. Related to this doctrine is the disputed concept of an "age of accountability" when God determines that a mentally capable person is accountable for their sins and eligible for baptism. In contrast, reason and mental capacity are not essential factors in either Orthodox baptism or Holy Communion. This "tradition" arose from the legalistic, overly rationalistic theology of the Roman Catholic Church, which puts the rational intellect above all else, whereas Orthodoxy places the noetic faculty above all.
Baptists, like nearly all Protestants, hold a sola fide soteriology. This is an interpretation contrary to the Fathers, placing central emphasis of a Calvinist reading of Ephesians 2:8 ("For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God"). Their interpretation states that a person must only willfully repent of sin, accept the substitutionary payment of his own sin by faith in Christ's death, and declares that Jesus is Lord in order to attain salvation. Like most Western Christians, there is a dichotomy placed between "faith" and "works." Thus, any mention of the necessity of "works" such as fasting, prayer, or charity being necessary or even helpful for the soul are anathema. Consequently, theosis is an alien concept to Baptists. Their theology leaves little or no room for improvement after conversion, much less an individual's struggle to free themselves from the passions and live an increasingly godly life.
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Dairkal wrote:
The halfling wipes the fruit from his face and says a bit angriliy "Oh for Desna's sake this is ridiculous. I will not stand around being pelted by fruit" With that moves into melee range.Move action to put me right in front of the dazzled goblin
Dairkal; Please go ahead and take you standard action, and attack I assume, to go with you move action.
Good hitting!
Female Human (Sorcerer 1) HP 8/8 AC 13
Haley blinks and lifts her hand to meet her gaze, clearly astonished.
At the arcane academy in Magnimar they had done their best to teach her the ways of magic, but her instructors were never pleased with her progress. She had been able to muster the slightest of cantrips through her studies, but her attentions were always on the window and the blue open sky that remained beyond it to do anything greater.
THIS was all together different! This magic seemed to run through her veins and no amount of memorized arcane lingo seemed to rival the pleasure she felt from its presence. This was not power she manipulated and controlled, no, this was more intimate. Despite the pitched chaos around her, Haley's lips tilt in a genuine smile. Right now- if never again, she would become fire itself.
Haley boldly moves to 17i
With the air hazy around her palms from the gathering heat, Haley lifts her hands towards the goblin directly in front of her and a gout of flames rush forward with intensity. The tattoos on her skin fade for but a moment as the spell rushes forth, then seem to cool back towards their original color and form in the aftermath.
Haley casts Burning Hands. Reflex save of DC 16 for half damage. Flammable materials burn if touched. Burning items can be extinguished as a full round action
2d4 ⇒ (3, 3) = 6 Fire Damage
Male Halfling Swashbuckler 4
is that a charge attack? I can normally only move 20ft for bein small
Dairkal wrote:
i forgot about the 20 foot movement. If you want to do a double move you can charge or bull rush. Go get 'em!
I'll see if I can get anther post in tonight to get the gobs another swip at y'all. Heee heeee
Female Dwarf Oracle (Stone) Lvl 3 23/23 HP , AC 18 flatfoot 14/touch 11/ CMD 14/Cmb+3
The she-dwarf once again snapped off another bolt,aiming for one of the beady red eyes that glittered at her in the gloom. Her other hand tapped the reloading lever,sliding a third bolt into position.
1d20 + 1 + 1 ⇒ (10) + 1 + 1 = 12Attk gob at i15.
1d8 + 1 + 1 ⇒ (5) + 1 + 1 = 7Damage
When her shot missed yet again due to the little beast's unceasing wriggling,she snarled. Deciding not to waste another bolt,she slung the ranged weapon back over her backpack. She snatched up her sharpened maulaxe with it goblin beanbag charm and twirled it.
She cracked her neck and stamped forward,Mohawk bobbing.Little worms won't hold still for 6 blasted seconds! she thought.
Move to i17.
Male Halfling Swashbuckler 4
1d20 + 5 ⇒ (3) + 5 = 8 Charge attack Dair stumbles a bit on his rushed attack and misses the goblin.
Where the hells is my luck with the dice? I am usually much better than this!
DM-PC: Masao
Masao utters a Tian curse under his breath.
Trained to focus and commit wholly to a fight, he draws his katana and charges the apple throwing goblin.
Charge and attack to g16
1d20 + 4 + 2 ⇒ (7) + 4 + 2 = 13 Attack
1d8 + 4 ⇒ (4) + 4 = 8 Damage
He silently hopes no one heard his curse, as his Sansei would be upset he lost his calm.
Two of Dairkal’s Angels are having frustratingly bad luck connecting with conventional ranged tactics. The tattooed sorcerer finds fulfilling satisfaction with the application of arcane arts.
Gob reflex save 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (4) + 2 = 6
Haley watches the goblins skin burn and blister as his clothes ignite in enthralling crackling captivating flame. It screams a cry of pain that sound common to most, Haley hears detail that only arise from the sweet embrace of flame igniting nerve endings then incinerating them.
Masao and Draikal charge at the Gob only to find a charred corps with a face locked in eternal anguish.
E’Terah, I moved you to i16, as Haley also wanted i17. If you want another spot, no prob, just pick another, even if it’s a square or so more that your movement allowed.
The Dazzled goblin continues to swing it’s dogslicer franticly in the air trying to connect with the Halfling that charged before it.
You no longshankz! You’sa scranny runt runt! Me’so mak’a nuggetz ou’ta you’sa! AYEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Attack 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (17) + 2 = 19
Damage 1d4 ⇒ 3
Outch! The fetid creatures filthy makeshift weapon slices the skin on Dairkal causing a bleeding wound.
The Goblin that had failed to catch the umbrella on fire, sees the roaring flame that just erupted. So single focused with his intent, he does not notice (or care) that his former companion fuels the fire. Or sees the group of longshanks surrounding the flames.
He picks up the large umbrella by it’s pole and proceeds to run at the fire to throw in on.
BON FIREZ! Yheeeeeeeeeee!
With a mighty grin, he arrives next to Masao and throws the cloth and wood item onto the burning goblin.
• Male Halfling Swashbuckler 4
I can't see the map via my cell, but I was goin after the Dazzled goblin, yet you said he was an extra crispy mess. Or am I just confused?
Female Half Elf Ranger HP 8/12 - AC 14, touch 12, flat-footed 12
Alaren seeing the dazed Goblin slice at Dairkal she drops her longbow by the barrel hoping it will not be set on fire. She runs to Flank the Goblin standing in front of Dairkal while pulling her Elven Curved Blade.
Move to L15 - to Flank the Goblin
She yells in Goblin. In Goblin
Goblins chew and Goblins bite. Goblins be dead before night.
Her voice is lyrical but sounds scratchy and off key. She winces at the sound of the Goblin language coming from her mouth.
Gripping the polished and beautiful elven curved blade in both of her hands she elegantly slices the air following through with all her power. She is aiming for the Goblins little neck hoping to decapitate it.
1d20 + 2 + 2 ⇒ (3) + 2 + 2 = 7
damage 1d10 + 1 ⇒ (10) + 1 = 11
Wow I can't seem to hit anything! Maybe should have stuck with the bow.
Dairkal - I think iron dice mis-typed I can see the map and you are in from of the dazed Goblin. Masao and E-Terah is in front of the other Gob.
Dairkal wrote:
The dazzled one is still up. He's directly in front of you.
The apple lobbing gob that gave you the black eye is the toasty critter.
Male Halfling Swashbuckler 4
Dair let's out a yelp when he gets cut, then tries to return the favor 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (17) + 5 = 22 for 1d4 + 1d6 ⇒ (2) + (5) = 7
There we freakin go!
Why are the smallest always so brave? This has been asked when conversations have turned to Halflings for countless generations.
The diminutive swashbuckler unleashes a flurry of slashes at the Goblinoid creature before him, slicing deep ribbons through it's greenish grey skin.
It lays dead at Dairkal's feet.
• Two down. One left alive.
• Female Human (Sorcerer 1) HP 8/8 AC 13
At first the only sound Haley can hear is the rush of fire through her veins and her heartbeat, but no, this sound beats louder and far more ancient than her own. Like wardrums in her temples, like thunder beneath her breast, the heartbeat of something old and terrible and...
She blinks away the sensation. She hears the last agnozied groans of the burning goblin and an emotion that is both triumph and pity overwhelm her. The heat leaves her hands and her tattoos darken. Guilt and remorse has doused the last embers.
She sees a dogslicer catch Dairkal, however, and concentrates hard enough to conjure up a cantrip.
Dracoris' Eh Tor' Lakora, No No, Kalora de...uhm...Dazoria!
Haley Casts Daze on the remaining goblin. DC 14 Will Save to Negate
Move to g14.
Screw it. Casts Guidance on herself
The she dwarf watched one of the little menaces go up like a struck tindertwig at the tattooed girl's smoldering hands. She strode briskly around its screaming,shrivelling form as it writhed in its death throes lest it set her alight in its thrashing.
The second went down to the halfling,who leapt upon it in a flurry of stabbing blades,rapier and dagger sticking into its filth-crusted green-gray flesh. Grunting her approval,she focused on the last.
She saw the last remaining goblin Yank up an umbrella and charge over to its burning companion,teeth chattering in obvious glee at the carnage. Snorting,she slapped a free hand over her heart and a faint flash of scintillating gold aura outlined herself.
Guide me hands against these little vermin!!
As the golden wash of guidance flows over E'Terah, the rest of the Angels and Dairkal watch as Masao takes a practiced slice at the remaining goblin at his side.
Masao Katana attack 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (2) + 4 = 6
Knowing other warriors surround him, he stifles a verbal curse as his blade fails to slice the crazed creature.
Haley’s cantrip washes over the fire crazed goblin
Gob will save1d20 - 1 ⇒ (19) - 1 = 18
So focused is it with it's intent to burn the world that Haley's cantrip fails to grab at what little senses the creature has.
And yet . . .
Somehow. Someway.
Haley still managed to imprint herself on the goblins fragile concentration.
Looking up, it's eyes loose their glassed over gaze and it sees for the first time the adventurers standing around. It's gaze locks with Haleys.
Leaping over the now smoldering embers of goblin bones and flesh, it runs at Haley scratching with long broken and jagged nails.
1d20 + 2 ⇒ (6) + 2 = 8
It manages to entangle a nail in Haley's garment, but no bodily damage is done.
Echoing in the distance you continue to hear goblin song
<Chase the baby, catch the pup.
Bonk the head to shut it up.
Bones be cracked, flesh be stewed,
We be goblins! You be food!>
*Translated form goblin
• Time for a goblin beatdown, me thinks!
Touch of Acid Attk plus Guidance and HATRED1d20 + 1 + 1 + 1 ⇒ (12) + 1 + 1 + 1 = 15
Damage 1d6 + 1 ⇒ (4) + 1 = 5
Snarling out an oath that resembled the growl of a angry hound,the she-dwarf made a fist with her free hand. It started to hiss and smoke,white wisps rising from it as what appeared to be salt started to bubble up through the leather of her glove.
Rearing back as the manic little beast hurled itself at the tattooed girl with ragged nails raking uselessly over her clothing,she slapped it upside the head with a heavy open palm and slathered the hissing alkaline salt across its wrinkled face. Flesh started to bubble and blister instantly.
She bared her teeth in vicious triumph.
FINALLY! !!!
Alaren feeling frustrated by her lack of striking a Goblin, steps toward the remaining goblin and strikes at it with her Curved Elven Blade. Move to J16
Damage 1d10 + 1 ⇒ (7) + 1 = 8
Watching the Dwarf's strike the Goblin, Alaren lessens her blow as she realizes the Goblin is already severely wounded.
She continues to hear the echoing Goblin Song and is disturbed by how it continues without the Goblins in front of them.
She looks at the Goblin and questions it: In Goblin
<How many of you are there? What are you doing here? Why are you here?.>
She looks about at the carnage the Goblins had created in front of the Newly Finished Temple.
Perception check: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (18) + 8 = 26 Looking for any additional Goblins in hiding.
Female Human (Sorcerer 1) HP 8/8 AC 13
In all of her 18 years of life on Golarion nothing had ever charged her in anger before. So when the goblin rushed forward with his ragged nails eager for her throat she found it impossible to react.
Her cantrip had failed, most likely do to her own verbal stumblings with the spell- how proud her instructors back home would be- and the goblin came on with a frantic whorl of murder in his oversized eyes.
But with all the ferocity of a landslide the she-dwarf collided with the goblin from the side, her palm coated in a haze of hissing white that ate at her attacker's face. The goblin's momentum shifted violently and his slashing fist moved wildly along the thin fabric covering Haley's midriff doing no real damage but tearing the cloth.
Half a moment later the slender blade of the elf connected from the other direction and,like the precise strike of a sand adder, struck green flesh in a blur of motion.
A light spray of blood dotted Haley's face, neck and shoulder who remained motionless during the swift and brutal exchange.
She blinked. The sound escaping her lips soft and miserable.
Haley takes no actions this turn.
The pinned goblin looks quizzically at the half-elf speaking it's language.
Alaren wrote:
She looks at the Goblin and questions it: In Goblin
It responds Burnz it. Burnz it’z all! We allz here’sess. Allz uf uz. Hehh heh *glerp* *keff*
It’s flesh and vocal cords melt away as the she-dwarf displays a fearsome attack against the creature. It drops.
Five strangers. Brought together by the promise of festive revelry. All standing in a circle of carnage. Their bright clothes now torn and blood splattered. Peace ties long discarded and trampled into a scorched earth.
The halfling stands with a blackened eye, swelling near to the point of closure. An open wound slowly oozing blood. The rest, although tattered, burnt and bloodied seem uninjured.
At least physically.
A moment.
A calm.
As the totality of the scene is unfolded, mild chaos still rules the streets.
All about, townsfolk still run and flee. Down one alley a goblin leaps off a roof in an attempt to land on a victim but misses. It’s neck breaking causing it’s head to awkwardly face the wrong direction.
Across the street a goblin throws a lit torch at a fleeing mother. Before you can react, the torch lands on another goblin and lights his armor on fire. The mother gets away.
Perhaps the worst is over.
Perhaps this nightmare is passing.
Alaren, ever attentive, is the first to hear it.
A boom.
A fire.
South of the Temple entrance sits a cart. On the cart is the fuel for the evenings planned bonfire.
A goblin warchanter commands three warriors who have lit the cart afire.
There target? The entrance to the newly rebuild Temple!
The warchanter sings
Burn the town. Burn it all.
Burn all longshanks, big and small.
All will die. All be dead.
Goblins, goblins, burn their heads!
UPDATE Map E
The steps the the Temple entrance are seen on the east side of the map. The warchanter is the eastern most goblin (not by the cart)
Alaren looks at the Goblin as it chokes out its last words. Looking alarmed - she translates what she has heard to the group. They are here to burn the entire town. An entire Goblin tribe. Her brow furrows in disbelief of what has happened. This glorious day has suddenly turned very bad.
She looks at the chaos as it unfolds around them. Then she hears the boom and her head snaps toward the sound. Seeing and hearing the warchanter sing, she looks at the group around her.
They are going to burn it all. We have to help stop them.
Alaren runs up to the small tent closest to the start of the Goblin's Bon Fire move to O21 and ducks behind whatever cover is available. She hopes the others will help and prays to Densa for some luck.
Alaren draws on what little sorcerer blood there is in her vains and ice particles and freezing air shoots from her hand and hits the Goblin with the widest smile. Goblin at R24
Damage: 1d3 ⇒ 2
She hopes to distract the Goblins from the Bon Fire. With a little luck the towns people will help to at least put out the fire or they will be rebuilding the temple again.
I did not spell it out exactly, but a roud or three passed during the calm reflective period in my last post. If anyone wanted to do some quick little thing (heal, retrieve weapon etc), just state so in your post.
My thinking was to keep the primary action going and let the commentary exist as a separate dialogue. Similar to the flashbacks before.
Aas you were . . .
GM Iron-Dice wrote:
Aas you were . . .
In the brief calm period Alaren goes and retrieves her Bow and returns her eleven blade to its scabbard.
E-Terah shook the caustic salt from her hand along with bits of the goblin's face. She frowned at the carnage of burning buildings and fleeing townsfolk and goblin insanity. She sea one clamber onto a roof with a dogslicer it its teeth and attempt to leap on a man's back only to break its neck on the street.
Another goblin streaked after a terrified woman clutching a squalling baby,chattering excitedly.Before she could take a step into that direction to help,the harried woman promptly skidded around a corner when it lobbed its torch at her back. She vaulted over another goblin.that halted in surprise as her skirts fluttered over her head before it caught the torch in its face and promptly lit,freaking out and running out in circles.
Yet another had a small puppy viciously tearing into its back,hanging on and shaking its grubby patchwork armor and rags as it shrieked like a tea kettle in abject fright while it wheeled in a dizzy circle.
This town is pathetic if this is how they deal with gobs. They should have dogs and horses loosed to scatter the little turds. And stone buildings. To my knowledge,stone doesn't catch fire so readily. the she-dwarf scowled at the various scenes that unfolded around her.
She gave acknowledging glances at the four other individuals standing with her. The only ones who actually attempted to stop the goblins instead of just fleeing. None of them,herself included,had had any real effectiveness due to the goblins manic movements.
When she heard the tell-tale sound of flame going up,and saw the flash,she spotted the source quickly: four more goblins maneuvering a blazing cart of wood straight at the newly constructed temple!
Her eyes narrowed behind her spectacles as she recognized the female warchanter begging them on---and the source of that annoying noise. She couldn't understand the lyrics but the rhythm was familiar enough.
Grunting,she hooked her maulaxe onto her belt. She saw the half-elf hurry towards them,fingers moving in a somatic spell and the glitter of frost. She clapped a hand over her heart,casting the glowing glow of Guidance over herself once again,and took out her crossbow once more.
Ducking past the other three,treading over the corpses of the goblins uncaring,she waddled towards the cathedral in a charge.
Cast Guidance on myself . Equip crossbow.Double move toward goblins. Move to R19.Attack Goblin at R 24.
Once she reached the temple's steps,she raised her crossbow and snapped it off at the nearest goblin.
1d20 + 1 + 1 + 1 ⇒ (16) + 1 + 1 + 1 = 19Guidance +Hate
1d8 + 1 ⇒ (5) + 1 = 6
A moment prior
Feeling her curse slide away despite the situation,since she was out of battle now,the she-dwarf cleared her throat loudly.Addressing the other four people,which consisted of a half-elf female,a halfling male with a blackened eye,a female human girl,and a male human of noticeably exotic descent,she held up a still smoking hand.
Oi.Let's get this out th' way. Name's E-Terah Deepheavy,as you c'n see,Imma dwarf and a farmer fr'm outta town. I'm also an oracle an' as all oracles are,I'm cursed.In. battle or times o' stress an' excitement,I can only speak and hear th' Tongues o' th' Earth. Also known as Terran. So,I'm not actually ignorin' you if'n you talk to me an' I don' reply. Anyway,Imma go kill me some gobbies!
Female Human (Sorcerer 1) HP 8/8 AC 13
A moment prior
Haley's fingers touch her cheek and they come away speckled with rust colored blood. The goblins, she assures herself, not her own. However, someone has been hurt, and when she sees the halfling's wound she rushes to her new friend's side.
Dairkal! What did those little monsters do to you? Haley finishes tearing off the strip of fabric the goblin snagged, revealing tanned skin and more spiraling tattoos along her flat stomach. She dabs at his bleeding wound having no real knowledge of healing and convinced he must be on the brink of death.
Those..those goblins shouldn't be here. The walls are high! This is a day of faith and the Gods have seemed to have given them leathery little wings to fall upon us.. She glances up at the new temple and feels anger touch her. How could benevolent deities allow such a thing to happen on a day dedicated to them?
Haley turns her attention to the other defenders who have circled about. She hears E-Terah's gruff introduction and tilts her head in greeting. The elf, Alaren, gathering her weapons just off to the right. A silent Tian swordsmen in the shadows.
It is good to meet you all..despite the circumstances. She gives a slight smile of relief as Dairkal's wound doesn't seem as serious after the pressure and brief cleaning. I'm Haley. Haley Kindel. And I hope that..
Female Human (Sorcerer 1) HP 8/8 AC 13
Back to the action!
She senses the fire even before it erupts and the sensation cuts off her introduction. She stands as smoke rises and the high pitched chanting begins again. The goblins aren't finished yet it would seem.
Her fear burns away, suddenly and unexplainably, her courage bolstered by the nearby flames. Her fists clench, cherry red fingernails digging into her palms.
Haley's youthful face takes on a look of defiance. Well if the Gods won't help then so be it. Let's burn these little bastards to ash and let THEM sort it out when we are done!
Haley moves to 18o trying to use the stage as cover
Uttering cantrips had failed her earlier, but what if she could combine her kindred bond with the flame and the results of such a spell? Instead of relying on the words of power, Haley attempts to manipulate the flames around the goblins, urging its burn so that the thick smoke billowing from it will fill the lungs of the closest goblin and send it into a fit of painful coughing.
Essentially, Haley casts Daze on the middle goblin. DC 14 Will Save to negate
A moment prior
Alaren walks back to the group with bow. Alaren takes the tattered remenace of her peace tie that had been attached to her eleven blade and pulls back her long black hair into one long swath of hair hanging down her back.
She slightly tilts her head as the dwarf introduces herself, watching the fascia Mohawk Boyce with her words. She gives a brief smile as the Dwarf says she is going to kill some gobbles.
She watches as Haley finishes dabbing at the Halfling's wounds. He did get hit by the Gobbling but it could have been worse.
I am Alaren. I was on my way to explore some ruins near by and stopped for the day's festivities. Wish the gods would provide a little better outlook for the ending festivities. Appears this hoard o Goblins are set on burning down Sandpoint.
As they hear the explosion - Haley's word trail off
see action above
As these strangers begin the slow dance of friendship, with the most basic of introductions, the crisis continues.
Fire. Goblins. Warchanter. Temple.
Danger. Townfolks. Destruction.
Alaren retrieves her bow and sprints to cover behind a table. Reveling she also possesses arcane talents she lets loose a frosted ray, striking the southern most goblin.
Injured Gob has red outline
E’Terah charges forward attaining a better vantage. Loosing a bolt she strikes the goblin squarely dropping it like a rag doll to the earth below. One less to maraud the town.
Haley’s actions, much like those of Aralen, show a headful caution to the dimwitted creatures ability to damage others as she seeks cover at the stages corner. A pinch of lint, a movement of the hand and muttered phrase cause the smoke to billow and gather around the eastern warrior goblin.
Gobs will save 1d20 - 1 ⇒ (5) - 1 = 4
Chocking and gagging at the backlash of soot in it’s eyes and lungs, the goblin spins in circles waving both hands about screaming Smokez! *kefff*Smokez! I kill *chaa*you’sa. Die nast’ez *keff*smoke’sa!
The dazed goblin will be unable to act on it next turn, being so occupied with the smoke cloud
• Masao and Dairkal’s turn left to go. The Gobs. The warchanter looks on, assessing and chanting.
<Longshanks fight then longshanks die.
Shove a dagger in their eye.
Twist, twist, into their brain
Make it hurt, give them pain!>
MAP Update F
I slightly adjusted who hit what goblin to maximize your turns. I figure in linear play everyone would have spread out the damage once each gob was hit and not piled up on a single one.
• Male Halfling Swashbuckler 4
A moment before
Now that he's got a moment to rest, Dair presses a hand to his side where he's bleeding. Thankfully, the wound wasn't that bad, but it still hurt like hell.
Then Haley was there, and her gentle ministrations made the pain that much less. He smiles at her "Thank you, you're very kind"
Upon hearing her words against the gods the little man frowns "Don't be so quick to assume the gods have abandon us, after all, as bad as this attack is, are we not here to beat it back?" He says, with a touch of seriousness in his voice.
As the others gather nearby, he introduces himself as well "Name's Dairkal and I am a juggler, performer, magician and storyteller."
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Elsewhere in Sandpoint . . .
In a dark alley, in a scrambled maze of streets, feet stop running. Deep heavy breathing is the only movement. Cries and screams echo in the distance.
Then the familiar crackling orange glow of torch light rushes in, illuminating a green face with bloodlust eyes. The goblin has found him and approaches. Sniffing, or sensing him as prey. Whatever those damn crazed abominations do.
The man's clothes are cast in shifting refrain by the approaching torch. No longer the clean tailored straight lines of a uniform. Tattered, dirty and soaked with sweat and blood as they are now.
From the other side of the alley a young couple dart in. Lovers perhaps. No matter at this time. Seeing the light, they cry out. Who’s there. Oh please, please can you help us. The gobs are on out trail. Help us please.
The clever gob, easily distracted, now advances on the couple. The man also scrambles towards the couple. He now has a plan. Yes, a good plan thinks to himself. Here, this way. I can save you. I’m with the town militia.
The goblin squeals in delight. Goblins burn and goblins bite! Three longshank faces be my snack tonight!
The young girl screams at the goblins song. Even without understanding the language, the tone is terrifying.
The man reaches the couple moments before the goblin. A glint of steel where there was none before. A slender blade swipes the air. I have a way out. I always have a way out. the man assures.
Stepping between and behind the couple, he slashes at their ankle tendons, drooping them to the floor.
There goblin. Feast on those. That should keep you busy for a bit of time.
The man runs from the alley and the echoing screams it emits. He’s safe. He’s safe now. Just as he was safe when he fled the carriage a fortnight ago. If he can survive this, he can survive anything. The former carriage driver continues to weave his way around sandpoint. Always safe. Always with a plan.
Female Human (Sorcerer 1) HP 8/8 AC 13
That song! Like a twisted nursery rhyme, the goblin's song seems to feed their mayhem like lamp oil on a wild fire. Just past the billowing smoke and the fury of Alaren and E-Terah shrieked one of the sources of that terrible cadence. It had to be silenced, Haley decided, even if for a moment.
Stepping out from behind the safety of the stage to better gain sight of the rising flame between them, Haley gives in to the new presence in her bloodline that has awaken so fiercely. yes.. It seems to utter. Burn it all down.. And, at that moment, perhaps she would if she could..
Instead, A Phoenix takes shape and lifts itself from the makeshift pyre on wings of sparking light, its beak opens but it's war cry is the pop and fizzle of an elaborate firework.
It spreads it's wingspan out over the goblins below, stinging but harmless sparks falling like rain on their bulbous heads, THEN- It arches and streaks like a dart directly towards the war chanter trailing light behind it.
Haley casts Snap dragon fireworks. DC 16 Will to negate. Dazzles!
1d4 + 2 ⇒ (3) + 2 = 5
The crazy little gobbles need a chance to take a turn before the PC's unlease whoopass again. I've got a busy day, so it may be late afternoon of early evening before I can channel their will into actions.
• PC’s continued
GM-PC Masao
Masao’s training in war kicks in. Seeing the warchanter, he knows that striking down a leader will break down moral among the ranks. He charges at her holding the katana parallel and steady with the ground in a deadly lance charge.
double move to p20
• Goblins turn
The eastern warrior turns and spins, waving wacky wonky flying flaying fists at the smoke choke he cant revoke.
The southern most goblin, having been injured, seeks justice from the closest longshank it sees. It’s torch waving circles above it’s head the gob runs at Alaren jumping up on the table she’s using for cover. Burnz your hair. Burnz your head. Goblin fire makes you dead! it screams in common.
1d20 + 2 ⇒ (12) + 2 = 14 Attack with flaming torch
1d4 ⇒ 2Melee damage
1d2 ⇒ 1Fire damage
Alaren head jars, and the whiff of burnt hair reach her nostrils.
The warchanter growls at the charging samari. Griping his whip, she takes a step forward and utters a charm. Pee you pants. Split your sides. Laugh out loud before your diez!
Masao feel the urge to spontaneously burst-out in hideous laughter.
Masao will save DC 12 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (4) + 1 = 5
Masao drops to the ground, griping his side, a giant Jocker grin plastered on his face. And his pants? Yea, there wet.
• PC's. GO!
• Male Halfling Swashbuckler 4
Dair moves down near the umbrella, and bushes, using the cover to vanish Moves to N24. 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (12) + 11 = 23 Stealth
Forgot to post the updated map link
updated map link
Alaren watches in horror as the Goblin she hit with the Ray of Frost jumps on to the table in front of her and screams for her to Burn. She screams when the torch hits her on the head and sets fire to her hair.
She screams in pain as the fire begins to singe her hair. She grasps at her side for the waterskin and pours it contents over the top of her head. Now mad and dripping wet the half elf takes two steps back from the Goblin in front of her move to O19 .
She takes an arrow from her quiver and notches it in her bow. She takes aim at the Goblin on the tale yelling in common. Usual for a Goblin. She releases the arrow. As it takes flight she screams in Goblin - DIE!
1d20 + 3 ⇒ (11) + 3 = 14
Damage: 1d8 ⇒ 4
E-Terah let out a horrified gasp as Alaren's cascade of ink-black locks caught for when the goblin she had struck with magic frost retaliated by bashing her over the head with its torch. It cackled gleefully as the poor half-blood's hair flared and her pained scream. She then extinguished the flare with a waterskin.
Then she backpedaled,drawing her bow and notching an arrow. Screaming angrily,she snapped it at the torch wielding goblin.
She saw the halfling dart over to some bushes lining the street and vanish. She sneered,thinking he fled.
Then she saw the quiet human with the odd sword attack the warchanter,missing badly. The female gob sang something in her scratchy voice and suddenly he collasped to laugh violently,a wet patch spreading on his pants and the smell of urine.
She leveled her crossbow at the warchanter. She had to go.
1d20 + 1 + 1 ⇒ (1) + 1 + 1 = 3Attk
1d8 + 1 + 1 ⇒ (3) + 1 + 1 = 5Dmg
Male Halfling Swashbuckler 4
I'm pretty sure my moving above was my prior turn, yes? So I can attack this new turn? Maybe?
Dairkal wrote:
You get a move and an attack, or double movement. Also a free action, such as speaking, and often an extra five foot step.
Here's a good link
Male Halfling Swashbuckler 4
Yea, I know, I meant that I think I'm down a turn, as I believe this is the second round of combat. First round I moved into position and stealthed. Now, on round two, I can attack. I think
Male Human Samurai 1
all. My apologies for the delay in running Masao. RL slapped me like a giant punting a halfling. I can manage taking over next round.
Male Halfling Swashbuckler 4
Dair darts out of the shadows and attacks the warchanterAttacking from P22, so I am flanking with Masao. 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (3) + 6 = 9
Can I choose farmer as a profession?
Haley’s festive fireworks fly at the warchanter.
Warchanter save 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (5) + 6 = 11
It waves it’s hands at the colorful display as if to dismiss them. Instead the goblin leader shrieks out and pulls back hands blackened with burn marks.
Curses upon you longshanks! Yezzzzzz curses aplenty!
it does not even notice the mohawked she-dwarfs bolt strike into the wall behiend it.
Alaren's arrow misses the target and she decides to scoot back 10 feet to gain some distance from it’s fiery torch.
The goblin on the table, having the attention span of a . . .um . . .goblin, sees the samurai griped in hideous laughter and does not even attempt and attack of opportunity on the ranger scooting backwards on her rear.
Dairkal sneaks up behind the table dancing gob and slices out, striking only air as the creature shifts position at the last moment.
The little goblin lays down prone on the table and with a squee of delight pokes his torch at the cackling longshank.
1d20 + 2 + 4 ⇒ (6) + 2 + 4 = 12
Even in Masao's undignified condition he is able to avoid the creatures attempt.
As the smokey daze begins to clear from the goblin next to the cart (t23) it sees the spectacle of the samurai and it's fellow gob poking him with a fire stick. Inspired, it also lets out a squee and throws it’s torch as Masao.
1d20 + 3 + 4 ⇒ (20) + 3 + 4 = 27
OHHH! It’s a perfect hit. The torch lands directly on the most flammable exposed cloth area of Masos undergarment. Whoosh it goes up in flames.
Damage 1d4 ⇒ 1 (1d4 ongoing until extinguished)
Another squee emits from the warchanter. The trio of sounds could issue visions of elephants blowing damaged brass instruments in an echoing cavern. These goblins are having a grand ‘ol time enjoying their victory over the longshanks.
Wiping watering squee juice form it eye, the warchanter spies the dwarf in the open and focuses the squeeing sounds into a wave of mind clouding energy.
Daze at E’Terah. DC 11 will save to negate
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• Dairkal's Angels turn
The she-dwarf casted another golden glow of Guidance over herself,tapping her chest. Then she raised her crossbow once again to snap of the last remaining bolt in the case at the warchanter.
1d20 + 1 + 1 ⇒ (2) + 1 + 1 = 4Attack
1d8 + 1 ⇒ (8) + 1 = 9
And again she missed its bobbing head. She spat in disgust at her aiming skills.
E-Terah saw the giggling warchanter focus on her,sending a wave of distorted heated air from the fire washing over her...
1d20 + 3 + 1 ⇒ (7) + 3 + 1 = 11Will Save+ Guidance
Female Human (Sorcerer 1) HP 8/8 AC 13
Her precious fire had become the enemy.
In the hands of the goblins, the sacred flame had become nothing more than a tool of clumsy application. The little monsters treated it like a caged beast that they could whip into a mild frenzy...they did not see the majestic and purifying essence of the flame like she did. This, above all else, made her angry in a way she had never felt before.
Licks of it had scorched Alarens hair and a spiraling wave of flickering hot was rushing up the length of the Tian's arm. This had to end.
Moving forward through the madness of battle, Haley began to summon every last molten reserve of magic from her bloodline. As she past Masao she spoke out loud to the fires that climbed him like a siege tower attempting to slow their hunger and make it easier to put them out. You had to let them hear you, these flames, for whispers would not coax them.
Be still and know your true enemy. She purred. I have need of you! Haley tried hard to keep any desperation from her tone.
With the heat gathering in her hands becoming almost unbearable, she approached the war chanter and her nearby goblin companion. Lifting her hands before her in a motion that was both a wild release and a pleasurable exchange, she poured the last of her power into her spell and a crashing wave of flame washed towards the goblins with white hot intensity.
Haley moves to T21. She casts her final spell of the day, Burning Hands, targeting the two goblins in the cone! DC 16 reflex for half. Flammable materials catch on fire.
2d4 + 2 ⇒ (4, 2) + 2 = 8 Fire Dmg
Alaren still smelling burnt hair from her head looks around at the chaos created by the Goblin Warchanter. Masos is on the ground now on fire. E-Terah looks as mad as a dwarf can possibly be as she just missed the Warchanter again. Haley's tattoos are again becoming visible after the effects of her last spell recede. And Dairkal looks almost as upset as the Dwarf as he again misses the Goblin.
She takes the water skin still in her hand and pours the remaining water on Masos hoping it is enough to extinguish the fire on him before he gets burned more than he already is.
Alaren thinks about what she had learned about Goblins while out searching the Thassilon Ruins. She had always just avoided them and did not pay much attention beyond picking up their language from a distance. Much good that is doing her now.
Alaren moves next to E-Terah Q19
And again takes an arrow and notches it in her bow. She takes aim at the Goblin Warchanter.
Again a prayer to Densa to guide her bow true to its target, she releases the arrow.
1d20 + 3 ⇒ (9) + 3 = 12
Damage: 1d8 ⇒ 4
The arrow goes to the left as the Goblin Warchanter watches the fire in Haley's hands.
Male Halfling Swashbuckler 4
Annoyed. That's how Dairkal felt, as he and this new allies kept missing the goblins. He was confident they would win the day before long, but these stupid little creatures were just so aggravating. It would make him happy to finally put them down.
He decided he needed some guidence here. So far, his blade struck true only once, though twas a good blow. He whispered to his goddess "Desna guide my blade" and struck again 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (17) + 6 = 23 for 1d4 + 1d6 ⇒ (3) + (3) = 6. Attacking the warchanter.
Spotting the spell attack from the warchanter E’Terah steels her will and fends off the effects. Unfortunately that same concentration caused her eye to wander from it’s target and her bolt flies wide of it’s intended target.
Alaren knowing first hand the sizzle of goblin fire extinguishes the growing blaze on Masao’s garb. Her once soft and feminine brow takes on the look of rough chiseled stone after loosing another arrow and seeing poor results.
Haleys resolve hardens as she sets to end these fiery devils abuse of her beloved flame. Seeing an opening, she moves into a tactical position.
A word. A motion.
Suddenly there is silence. The air compressed and heated so no sounds can travel. Then.
Fire. Heat. Flame. Smoke. A cone of blazing relief escapes the young sorcerer engulfing it’s prey.
Warrior reflex save 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (16) + 2 = 18, Warchanter 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (8) + 6 = 14
The gob warrior stands on the edge of Haley's vengeance and is able to dodge the brunt of the effect becoming slightly singed in the process. The warchanter however takes the fiull brunt of the incantation. Fire hitting from the front then reflecting off the wall to enshroud it in intense burning heat. Flesh wrinkles; shrinks; blisters. Turing to ash before dispersing into the undulating waves of heat. When the fire retreats a smoldering husk slumps where the brazen warchanter once stood.
The warrior however, still breaths. Though just so. When attempting to right it's self from the table it's blackened frames convulses. A rapier blade protruding from it's ribs.
Dairkal steps back, sliding the blade out from the dead corps. He delivered the killing blow.
• The burning hands fire clears. All those squares are clear for PC movement
• Only the gob warrior at t23 remains alive. He is injured.
• The cart still burns in place. Not currently moving or any danger to nearby structures.
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NOTE: Continued on page 3, post 101
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Female Human (Chelaxian) Wizard (conjuration) 2
"Oh!" Corinna replies. "I'll try. Um...." She approaches the pony skittishly, darting in to grab at its lead at a speed and angle virtually guaranteed to startle it. "Nice horse," she tells it nervously, tugging at the rope half-heartedly. "You want to go home, don't you? I'm sorry," she tells the Small riders. "I'm not used to animals that aren't summoned."
Handle Animal 1d20 ⇒ 3 I'll assume that even with that abysmal roll, the pony will know what to do even if Corinna doesn't. ;)
"Nice! Maybe Ameiko has something at the Rusty Dragon for us;" she tells Walthus, "I think you have a good chance to find a free bed at her inn - she loves to hear stories; and from what I've seen here, I think you have quite a one to tell."
"Thank you," Walthus says. "Thank you all." He hand the house key to Corinna, who locks up. Then you set out back along the trail the way you already came.
Aago Perception: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (14) + 6 = 20
Blue Rajah Perception: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (11) + 3 = 14
Corinna Perception: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (13) + 1 = 14
Gilfroy Perception: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (8) + 6 = 14
Malan Perception: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (16) + 4 = 20
Melon Perception: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (17) + 6 = 23
As is often the way with these things, going back feels shorter (although it really takes virtually the same amount of time). Walthus dozes most of the time and has to be watched to make sure he doesn't fall off the pony.
You pass over two of the bridges and are nearing the third, the one where the goblins ambushed you on your way in, when notice a freshly killed marsh rabbit lying on the trail in plain view. The body has been torn apart.
To the west, at the extent of your vision, you catch a glimpse of a humanoid figure silhouetted by the setting sun. It turns and disappears into the brush, heading away from the party.
Aago moves to the front as they finally make their way back to Sandpoint, though he isn't looking forward to returning to Ameiko's without any significance accomplishments. As he sees the rabbit, he frowns and moves forward to take a closer look.
Perception: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (12) + 6 = 18
Female Human (Chelaxian) Wizard (conjuration) 2
"Oh! The poor bunny!" Corinna murmurs.
Aago Belwas wrote:
Perception: 1d20 + 6
The rabbit is in multiple pieces, but still identifiable as a rabbit. No parts of it appear to have been eaten; instead, something has simply torn it apart and dropped it on the trail.
"Whatever did this wasn't hunting for food. This is an act of cruelty." Aago looks away from the rabbit. "Are any of you skilled in the study of tracks?"
"I am," Walthus says, feebly raising his arm. "I don't think now's a good time to follow them though. It could be a trap. We should keep moving."
"I was actually thinking more along the line of finding out what kind of creature did this. Goblins would certainly fit but I'd prefer to be sure it was them rather than something else entirely."
Aago shrugs. "Either way, it's a warning to be watchful."
Walthus nods. "A good point. I'll see what I can figure out. Can somebody help me down?" Assuming somebody does, he gets down off the pony and begins carefully going over the ground around the dead rabbit, peering at blades of grass and examining the wet dirt.
Walthus Survival: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (19) + 4 = 23
I have just discovered, to my surprise, that Walthus does not have any ranks in Survival. He only has his Wisdom bonus, ranger bonus, and favoured terrain bonus. For someone who lives in a dangerous swamp, acts as its warden, and offers services as a guide, this seems like a strange oversight. I may choose to revise his skills. For the moment though, at least he got lucky on the roll. :)
After a few moments, he stands back up. "Well, it definitely wasn't goblins. However, it was humanoid and barefoot with three toes on each foot. Roughly the size of you big folk. It went off to the west."
Female Human (Chelaxian) Wizard (conjuration) 2
"Three toes?" Corinna asks in surprise. "Like a bird?" Knowledge (local) to identify what could make such tracks? 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (9) + 8 = 17 Are we waiting on Melon to tell us what she noticed that the rest of us didn't, or is it not important enough for us not to move on? LoreKeeper wasn't around all weekend, apparently.
EDIT: Ah, just read the Serpent's Skull thread. Still, I've been holding off wondering if Melon was about to tell us something important before we stepped in to a trap. Are we okay to go forward?
Corinna Valdemar wrote:
"Three toes?" Corinna asks in surprise. "Like a bird?" Knowledge (local) to identify what could make such tracks? 1d20+8 Are we waiting on Melon to tell us what she noticed that the rest of us didn't, or is it not important enough for us not to move on? LoreKeeper wasn't around all weekend, apparently.
Yes, we certainly are ready. I haven't actually been waiting for anyone specific. I've just been really busy as well, so haven't had a chance to move things forward much. :) If Melon wants to comment on what she saw, she is welcome to do so retroactively; it's not likely to change your decision to press on.
Walthus points out the footprints to Corinna so she can get a better idea of what the foot looks like. It's a long, thin foot, with three long toes. Alas, she's not aware of any creatures that would fit.
Walthus climbs back up onto the pony. "Whatever it was, it's gone now. We should get going."
The remainder of the journey out of the swamp is uneventful. It's a relief to be back on solid ground again. The oppressiveness of the swamp seems to melt away as soon as you step onto the Lost Coast Road. Your vision seems less hazy, the temperature seems more comfortable, and there are a lot fewer insects buzzing around. Apart from the insects, you're pretty sure those are just products of your imagination, but it feels nice nonetheless.
The sun is low on the horizon when you draw close to Sandpoint and reach the trail that leads to the Valdemar manor.
Does Corinna wish to go to the manor, or are you all going to head straight back into town?
Minutes to late! Hah!
Melon nods, "Whatever it was, I think it left. There was a strange figure, about my size far to the west. Three toes. That's odd." She inadvertently looks down. "Toes are odd in themselves. I mean. Look at them. Do they serve any purpose really?"
Female Human (Chelaxian) Wizard (conjuration) 2
Corinna hesitates at the fork in the road, glancing up the trail toward the Valdemar manor and at at the position of the sun in the sky. "Do you need me in Sandpoint tonight? I assume that the Rajah and Gilfroy can see the Warden safely to a healer, but someone needs to tell the Sheriff what happened -- about the faceless stalker." She clearly wants to be sure the message is delivered properly but is also leery of the thought of walking back from Sandpoint to the manor by herself after dark.
"I'll speak to the Sheriff while the others see about getting the Warden his healing." Aago promises.
Female Human (Chelaxian) Wizard (conjuration) 2
"Thank you ... Aago, was it?" Corinna replies warmly, offering her hand to the oversized man. "Buck up, Warden; you're almost there. Fare well, all." She watches them go a few more paces up the Lost Coast Road before turning and making her way quickly toward Valdemar Manor.
Male Human Cleric 1; AC 14; Hp's 9/9
"Good day to you as well, Corinna." He nods in farewell.
"C'mon Gilfroy. Let us see the good Warden to Father Zantus."
"Right. We'll be by bright and early for you tomorrow, Corinna, have no fear. A good night of peaceful sleep to you."
Gilfroy takes up the reins and steers Umbral towards the cathedral.
Corinna turns down the trail to the Valdemar Manor while the remainder of the group continues on to Sandpoint. The road leads first past the Rusty Dragon as it enters the town.
Aago heads to see the sheriff, while the Blue Rajah and Gilfroy take Walthus to the cathedral (Aago can actually travel with them most of the way, since their destinations are fairly close together).
Where do Malan and Melon go? I'll wait a bit for the answers before detailing what happens at each location. And no, Melon can't be everywhere. :)
Malan goes with the Warden to see Father Zanthus.
Aago smiles and offers his hand to Corinna in return. "That's right. A good eve to you, lady."
He makes his way off to the Sheriff, already dreading such a lackluster report but determined to get it over with.
Aww - don't make me reveal that Melon is actually two! Twin sisters that like to mess with people :)
Melon breaks off from the group. "Okay, good luck Walthus. See you guys later, at the Rusty Dragon, okay?" She takes the latest possible turn to get to the inn without actually having to backtrack. "Tomorrow we go again!"
Corinna is the first to break away from the group as she heads to the Valdemar manor. Melon is the second; she heads into the Rusty Dragon as the group passes it. The others remain together as they cross the town. Then Aago splits off to visit the sheriff, and the remaining head to see Father Zantus.
Things seem to have calmed down somewhat when Corinna arrives at the manor grounds. The gate remains in its wrecked state, but there is a town guard now standing there and watching over it. He nods at Corinna as she passes.
She is met by Mrs Hasmel as she enters the manor. "Corinna, my dear," she says, taking Corinna's coat for her. "I'll let your uncle know you've returned. I trust you're all right?"
Mrs Hasmel doesn't give Corinna much chance to reply before heading off into the manor to find Corinna's uncle. He arrives shortly after, with her "Aunt" Alil following behind. He crosses his arms over his chest. "Well?" he asks in a tone that says, "Tell me how you screwed up."
The Rusty Dragon is doing fairly brisk business this evening. Virtually every table is occupied by people talking animatedly. There's too much chatter for Melon to tell the specifics of any one conversation, but it's clear everyone's talking about the same topic: the goblin attack on the Valdemar and Scarnetti manors.
Across the room, Ameiko waves to Melon as she heads behind the counter and into the kitchen.
"There's one of the ones who went after them!" someone calls out. Suddenly, all the faces turn to look at Melon expectantly. There's a very brief moment of silence before the noise erupts again, this time everyone trying to yell out questions at Melon:
"Did you catch the monsters?"
"Is it true they ate all the dogs in a vile ceremony?"
"I heard the goblins were transforming the dogs into giant monster dogs for an attack on Sandpoint! Did you stop them?"
And so on...
The Sandpoint Garrison is quiet when Aago arrives. There is only a single guard on duty at the entrance. "Sheriff Hemlock has gone off-duty for the evening," he tells Aago. "However, he'll want to hear what you have to say. I'll go get him." The guard hurries off, leaving Aago to wait in the entrance area.
Several minutes later, the guard returns with Sheriff Hemlock. "What's the news?" he asks.
Blue Rajah, Gilfroy, Malan:
The three of you arrive at the Sandpoint Cathedral with Walthus. You help the halfling down, then head inside. You are met almost immediately by an acolyte who takes you through the main building, past the shrines of the six gods, and to the residential and office buildings on the other side of the cathedral. He takes you to a small sitting room and bids you wait a moment.
Less than a minute later, Father Zantus arrives. "Greetings, my friends," he says. Before anyone can reply, he has already noticed why you are here and is moving over to Walthus. "Warden Proudfoot, yes?" He bends down by the halfling.
"Proudstump, yes," Walthus corrects him.
"Proudstump, my apologies. What has happened?" Father Zantus begins to examine Walthus.
"A faceless stalker from the marsh nearly blood-sucked him to death before we arrived. It got me, too, but I had back-up, so it wasn't as bad. We're hoping you have the magic needed to get him back on his feet quickly." A smile flashes across his face. "I'm sure Lord Valdemar would be willing to make the appropriate donation so that we may better able do the work necessary to secure his home against further goblin attacks."
Aago smiles and shakes the Sheriff Hemlock's hand. "It's been a momentous day. We reached the warden -- Walthus -- without much trouble, aside from a minor encounter with a few goblins who shot fireworks at us. Most of them ended up fleeing us after we fought them, though I did throw one into the river."
The lightness of his tone gives way to graveness as he goes on. "At the warden's house we encountered something that looked exactly like the warden but was not. He -- it -- tried to send us away but it was clear that something was wrong. When we did refused to leave it abandoned the pretense and revealed itself to be something unnatural. Walthus calls it a Faceless Stalker. It feeds on people's blood."
"Walthus came out of his house after we slew the beast and explained that he'd been attacked by it and forced into hiding. He has been gravely injured so we brought him back to Sandpoint for the ministrations of Father Zantus. Assuming that the Father can restore him, we'll be departing again tomorrow for the goblin village, with Walthus as our guide."
Female Human (Chelaxian) Wizard (conjuration) 2
Gilfroy Fezziwig wrote:
*koff* Bluff check? You must not know Corinna's uncle very well. ;)
Corinna's face burns at Alil being part of the judgment being passed upon her. "Well, Uncle," she replies, trying to put a positive sheen on the day's affair, "we did find some goblins -- with fireworks -- but they weren't the ones who took the dogs, I don't think. The Sheriff sent us to Warden Proudstump who was to guide us, but the Warden had been attacked by another sort of creature -- a faceless stalker, he said it was -- and was too weak to lead us into the swamp so we brought him back to Sandpoint to receive some attention from a healer. And, well, I'm afraid that's really all we were able to do today. Most of our time was spent in traveling there and back. I must admit, there's really very little hope of recovering the dogs alive, even if we had found the goblins right away. So ... I'm not really clear on what you wanted us to do exactly, if we did find them...." She trails off.
Male Human Cleric 1; AC 14; Hp's 9/9
Rajah shoots Gilfroy a stern look for that last bit he threw out there. Turning his attention back to Father Zantus, "What the good Warden needs, Father, is restorative healing. As Gil said, the creature nearly drained him to the point of death." Looking to the weakened halfling then back to Father Zantus, "Can you help him, Father?"
"Monster dogs? That one is new, I haven't heard of that one," Melon entertains the thoughts of mostly any of the wild rumors; but then settles in to explain - once somebody offers to buy her a drink - "We've run into one of their groups, along one of the bridges on the new fishing trail. They definitely had some of those weird fire cracker things - good thing they know as much as I about how to use those, which is to say, not much. I got this scar from that fight, look here."
"After that we pushed on to the Warden's cottage. And we found Walthus there - except not. Some strange rare creature had stolen Walthus' appearance and was parading as him. Was only luck really that it showed its true colors when we tried to help it out. Was a tough one that, nearly took out the little gnome that was with us. Gilfred Fuzzywig."
"We did find the real Walthus afterwards, nearly bled to death days before from when the thing initially ambushed him. We helped him back here first, he should be with the clerics by now, here in Sandpoint. We decided to come back for today, and go again tomorrow - armed with more knowledge of where to go and what to watch out for."
Once Father Zanthus begins to administer to Walthus, Malan excuses himself and goes to the Rusty Dragon.
Blue Rajah, Gilfroy, Malan:
Father Zantus looks quizzically at Gilfroy, then frowns. "Lord Valdemar? Ethram can barely get out of bed, and even if he could, he's never been one to donate money to the cathedral unless all the other families donate an identical amount. No, my friend, if you want my help, all you need do is ask, but I don't appreciate an attempt to pass on debt to someone else, even if you disapprove of that person's way of life. I doubt you've even met Ethram Valdemar, so why so quick to bear him ill-will?"
Turning to Rajah, he says, "I can help. I will make him comfortable for the evening and will see to it that I have the proper spells prepared for tomorrow so that I can speed up his recovery." He turns to Walthus. "If that is okay with you, of course, Warden."
Walthus nods. "Thank you, father."
Malan excuses himself and heads off.
Sheriff Hemlock eyes widen at the talk of blood-sucking monsters. "I'm glad that Walthus has survived," he says. "He's a good man, if a little strange at times. You'll do well to have him as your guide tomorrow. I fear it's likely too late for the dogs, but hopefully you can find out what the goblins are up to. Thank you for taking this risk on behalf of Sandpoint. We are in your debt." He shakes Aago's hand again. "Get yourself a good rest tonight."
Does Aago head back to the Rusty Dragon next?
"I wasn't actually expecting you to do anything," Belven says tersely. "I was expecting Shalelu to. However, she apparently has something more important to deal with, something that has nothing to do with Sandpoint, of course. So much for our protector." He shakes his head and frowns. "Then she compounds it by sending a group of amateur adventurers in her place."
He looks over Corinna. "And just what do you think you're doing accepting such a charge from her? A muddy marsh is no place for a Valdemar!"
"He has a point, Corinna," Alil says, with an infuriating smile. "Just look at your clothes. They're filthy. You really should change into something cleaner. I'll have one of the servants bring you some dinner to your room, if you like."
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Corinna flushes with embarrassment as she twitches her bedraggled hems to cover her muddy shoes. What a day not to have prepared prestidigitation! She had thought she was done with traveling dust when the carriage arrived in Sandpoint.
"To be fair, Uncle," she cajoles, "it's not as if Sandpoint pays Shalelu for her protection. We all merely sit back and wait for her to save the day. And she did send her apprentice. He seemed quite competent. I believe he would have gone on to take care of the goblins all by himself if he hadn't been concerned about seeing the rest of us back to town safely with the injured Warden. I'm sure he'll make quick work of the goblins tomorrow. And you oughtn't to blame Shalelu for conscripting me. It's just ... everyone seemed to assume that I was coming along. It was all a misunderstanding, but I'm back safe now." She offers him a hopeful smile.
"Actually, I was referring to Corinna's uncle Belvin, and if you don't bear such a man ill will, apparently you haven't met him. Wouldn't know a good painting if it bit him in the...well, it's neither here nor there. If you're one of the decent folks of the cloth who don't only help people in need when they're also in gold, then I apologize and thank you for your help."
Aago bids the sheriff good night and makes his way off to the Rusty Dragon.
Blue Rajah, Gilfroy:
"Ah, Belven," Zanthus says with a nod. "He is hardly Lord Valdemar. I understand a bit better now. However, my point remains. Attempting to pass on debt to someone whose ways you disapprove of is merely sinking to their level, and I do not appreciate it, even in jest. As for that debt, however, there are forms of payment other than gold. Warden Proudstump here has provided many services for Sandpoint over the years. He has more than paid his debt to me."
He stands up. "If you'll follow me, Warden, I'll show you to a place you can rest for the night." Walthus nods and Zantus turns to Gilfroy and the Blue Rajah. "Good night, gentleman. You did the right thing bringing the warden here. I wish you the best of luck in your endeavours tomorrow." He shakes their hands and then leads Walthus out of the room.
Back to the Rusty Dragon?
Belven frowns. "A misunderstanding." He throws his hands up in exasperation. "A misunderstanding you apparently did nothing to correct! You couldn't just say, sorry, you're mistaken? Instead, you just wander along with them because they mistakenly believe you're going with them? Did they actually teach you anything at that school you've been attending? I thought you had to have brains to get in there!"
Alil places a hand on Belven's shoulder. "Belven, go easy on her. You're just distraught from the day's events. I'm sure Corinna realizes her mistake, right Corinna? She'll go get cleaned up and nobody will the wiser."
"And I don't appreciate people who are too stuck up to have a sense of humour and feel it necessary to point out what they perceive as other people's character flaws, but I don't like to point out other people's character flaws, so I just won't say anything," Gilfroy says after Father Zantus has left.
"Let's get out of here," he says to Rajah quite huffily and stomps out of the office.
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"I'm not 'attending' any more. I'm on staff now; I'm...." She gives up. She knows there is no discussion with her uncle once he has made up his mind about a situation. "I'm sorry, Uncle ... and Aunt," she says tightly. "You're quite right. A muddy marsh is no place for a Valdemar. And I certainly don't want to cause any more disruption than I already have. I'll be quite content to dine in my room." The one you used to be happy to visit when you were pretending to be my friend, she finishes in her mind with a spiteful glance at Alil.
Everyone except Corinna:
The crowd continue to pester Melon with question until Malan shows up sometime later, at which point they pester him as well. Aago is next to arrive, and then Gilfroy and the Blue Rajah. For the most part, the crowd seems supportive of your actions, although a few express annoyance that the goblins have yet been brought to justice.
Ameiko brings you all a round of drinks and some stew. "On the house," she says. "Least I can do to repay your efforts today."
Alil nods and smiles. "I'll have your dinner brought up right away. Come on, Belven, let's leave Corinna to tidy up." She drags Corinna's uncle away.
It seems that Alil's definition of "right away" is a bit non-standard as it takes nearly an hour before the food actually does show up. However, that gives Corinna time to clean up a bit and settle in her room.
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Corinna starts up the stairs, wearily, a dull throb of a headache starting behind her temples. She'd felt better in the swamp with that collection of strangers than here in her own home. As she reaches the top of the flight, she pauses a moment and looks down over the railing. Ten years ago, she had been hiding here to eavesdrop on the conversation among the family below, her face puffy and tear-streaked after Uncle had dragged her home from the alleyway outside the Rusty Dragon. She'd heard his angry raised voice, her mother's tears, and one low, terse statement that had seemed to end all debate, that no one, not even her mother, had an answer for, a phrase that had stayed in her mind all those years: Blood will out.
"A muddy marsh is no place for a Valdemar," he'd said. But I'm not really a Valdemar, am I, Uncle? Not completely. And you've waited all these years for my father's shoe to drop.
She pushes open the door to her room and speaks a light cantrip. Even as quickly as the arcane light begins to glow, she still barks her shin on a rocking horse and sits down to rub the ache away as she strikes a tindertwig to fire the oil lamp. The room is cluttered with old toys. As the youngest child in the house, all the cast-off playthings had been put into her room. It had been thrilling when she was young, like living in a toy store, but as she had grown up, there had been no younger Valdemars in the house to pass them down to, and they had simply stayed. A few of her aunts had married and had children, but they were out of the manor and in their husband's homes. Perhaps if Alil has a child, they'll take some of these things out, she thinks, but quickly dismisses the idea. Any child of Alil and Belven will warrant brand new toys, not Corinna's castoffs.
She shoves aside a dollhouse to make room to open her bag and pull out clean robes. Examining the grime on the ones she has taken off, she decides not to put them out for the servants to wash; it will be quicker to simply learn prestidigitation in the morning and clean them herself. She drapes them over the rocking horse, runs a brush through her hair to get out the tangles and any lingering twigs, and sits down on the narrow bed to look out the window. Across the harbor, she can see the twinkling lights of Sandpoint. She wonders how the little Warden is doing and if the near-giant -- Aago -- remembered to tell the Sheriff about the threat posed by the faceless stalkers. She wonders if everyone is sitting around the Rusty Dragon, laughing and having a good time. She wonders if Alil will remember to send her dinner up or if she'll have to sneak down to the kitchen to scrounge for a sandwich.
After thanking Ameiko for the drink and the stew, Aago laughingly holds court in a corner of the tavern, embellishing the story of the firework wielding goblins and the mysterious face stealer, making the tale quite a bit larger than life but in a friendly manner, praising his each of his companions in the telling.
Malan does not give much information to the questioning crowd. He refers them to whatever Melon has already told them. Once Aago makes his entrance, Malan fades into the background and observes.
At the Rusty Dragon, the crowds do eventually stop their ever-continuing questioning once you've denied all the various rumours (the most creative one is that this is just the first step in a goblin plan to starve the residents of Sandpoint by removing all their feed animals; however, the goblins are too stupid to realize that dogs are not feed animals). At last, things begin to quieten down, and the townsfolk slowly return to their homes. Ameiko offers any of you who don't have anywhere else to stay a room for the night on the house.
At the Valedmar Manor, Corinna settles down to sleep, no one else from her family coming to visit her.
The morning is bright and sunny. The sky is clear and blue, with only a hint of cloud to the south. Those of you who stayed at the rusty dragon find a hot meal waiting for you when you come downstairs.
Those at the Rusty Dragon are awoken early (dawn has just broken) by high-pitched whooping and hollaring, as well as light-weight galloping in the hallways. Incessant pounding begins on Rajah's door. RAJAH! OPEN UP!!"
Rajah (or whoever opens their door first) sees Gilfroy, half-dressed and face red with excitment practically bouncing off the walls. He rushes over, pointing vehemently at his head.
"Look! LOOK!! Look at it!" he shouts, holding a few strands of hair in his hand. "It's BLUE again! I'm not dying anymore!! Yippee!!!" and he throws himself up at whoever it is in a huge bear hug.
Aago wakes to the uproar in the hallway, looks around wildly for the trouble and then, recognizing the gnome's voice, flops back down onto his bed.
He lies that way for several minutes before sighing, throwing back the covers and swinging his legs off the bed, dressing slowly with a number of bonecracking yawns.
Delaying as long as he can, Aago waits until the sound in the hallways dies down before leaving his room and heading downstairs to the common room to break his fast.
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Corinna wakes early, studies her spells, and uses prestidigitation to clean her robes and muddy shoes from the previous day. Between getting settled back into the house when she arrived and the excitement of the previous day, she hasn't yet had a chance to talk to her mother about the reason for her visit and the decision she is trying to make. Perhaps she can catch her before everyone goes down for breakfast. She walks quietly down the hallway and knocks quietly at her mother's bedroom door. "Mother? It's Corinna. May I come in?"
Malan opens the door to his room in response to Gilfroys clamor. He's wearing a silk shirt and comfortable britches from last night as if he hasn't slept. He is about to shut the door when Gilfroy notices him and runs up to Malan saying something about blue hair. "Yes. It is marvelous. Now I am.." Malan staggers backwards as Gilfroy jumps up and gives him an excited hug. He looks for someone to help. His relief at seeing Aago poke his head out flattens when Aago quickly shuts his door again. Gilfroy continues on without note to Malan's discomfort for what seems an eternity to the young elf. Eventually, though, he does convince the short fellow that it is time for breakfast and they should go to the common room.
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Going to assume her mother is in and not lying dead in her bed murdered by goblins or something. It's not my intention to make a lot of extra work for you, playing all the Valdemars; I just wanted her to talk to her mother before the party heads back into the swamp and didn't have time to type the whole thing this morning. It was more of a placeholder.
Corinna lets herself in and smiles at her mother's reflection in the mirror where she is sitting pinning up her hair and finishing her toilette. She drapes herself over the foot of the bed and rests her chin on her hands, looking around the room. If Corinna's room is stuck in permanent childhood mode, her mother's is no less frozen in time, albeit at a later stage of development. The frilly pillows trimmed with lace and ribbon and delicate glass and china figurines belong to the teenaged girl whose evolution into a respectable and prosperous wife ended suddenly twenty-seven years ago when she conceived a child without a husband. As a girl, Corinna had thought her mother's room glamorous; now that she has been out on her own, she finds it unutterably sad, especially when she considers her own unintentional part in her mother's tragedy.
"Mother," she begins, "there's a reason I came back -- other than to see you, of course. I've been thinking about ... making a change. The Academae's been wonderful; I couldn't have gotten a better education, but Korvosa ... it's not like Sandpoint. A lot of the people there -- people in the Conjuration school...," she trails off, not knowing how to explain to her mother the sorts of devil-summoning and pursuit of power that she had grown used to without shocking her. "I'm just not sure I want to stay there," she amends.
"There's another school, in Magnimar. They're not as good, not near as good in conjuration, but I think I could get on there quite easily, with an Academae education, probably with more responsibilities and a higher rate of pay. And I was thinking...," she pauses timidly, "perhaps after I got settled, you could come and stay with me. They say Magnimar is lovely; they call it the City of Monuments, you know. You could ... we could both have a fresh start there."
She sees her mother start to reply and breaks out again nervously. "Mother, I don't say a word against Uncle. You know I couldn't; he's been so generous to me ... to both of us. But you've lived your whole life here -- not even in Sandpoint, which is confined enough, but in this house! And I know," she lowers her voice cautiously so as not to be overheard by anyone outside in the hallway, "it must grate on you to see that little social climber Alil, who used to curtsey and call you ma'am, made head of this household and take precedence over you at family occasions. I know you've," she lowers her eyes to the bedspread as she makes even a veiled reference to her own birth, "made mistakes, but after twenty-seven years, surely your penance has been paid. I can't promise you anything like this house, but we could get along nicely in a little flat, couldn't we? There's a lovely garden right by the school for walking in. I know you've never intended to leave Sandpoint, but please at least tell me you'll think about it."
Male Human Cleric 1; AC 14; Hp's 9/9
Already having awokened at dawn, Rajah is startled by Gilfroy's antics. Quickly rushing to the door, opening it, and stepping out into the hallway, "Gilfroy! What in The Dawnflower's name...," he stops as he notices Gilfroy hugging Malan. Raising an eyebrow and then chuckling, "I must confess; this is a scene I truly believed I would have never lived to see!" He says with a smile.
"Yeah, you wish," Gilfroy replies good-naturally as he descends the elf. Wait, that just made it worse!
"All the excitement yesterday, I need some more. We have to get to the goblin village. Let's get moving!"
No worries about the family stuff! I actually really enjoy these kinds of things. :)
Corinna's mother looks at her with sad eyes, but smiles broadly. "Of course I'll think about it," she says. "Indeed, I've often though of Magnimar and what it might be like to live there." She looks away suddenly, back at her mirror, her smile vanishing. "Your uncle wouldn't approve though," she says sadly.
Before Corinna can say anything about her uncle, her mother looks at Corinna's reflection. "Now don't say anything about your uncle. He has a lot on his plate, and many things to consider. No doubt, he would secretly love to be rid of me--and you as well--but that, in itself, could cause scandal, and he won't let that happen to the family. They are things of such little consequence, really, but he is so caught up in them. You should feel sorry for him."
She begins to make tiny adjustments to her hair, all of them completely unnecessary and clearly done out of nervous habit. "As for Alil...well...she achieved what she set out for, I suppose, didn't she? Must give her some credit there." She frowns and begins unpinning her hair entirely. "She's wilier than she pretends. I am glad your education has gone well, Corinna. You have a chance to make more of yourself than any of your family, even though they will never realize or acknowledge it. We can at least take comfort in that."
Everyone except Corinna:
After Gilfroy thoroughly embarrasses Malan, you all gradually make your way down for breakfast.
"What's all the noise?" Ameiko asks as Malan first arrives. She doesn't give him a chance to reply before she passes by and into a back room, only to re-emerge moments later with a basket of bread. She moves about full of energy, as if she's been up for hours, although if she has, you have to wonder when she found the time to sleep!
She carries the basket to a man standing across the room. He's a tall, Varisian man with a goatee, large earrings, and several gold necklaces. He wears fine travelling clothes and carries a sword on his belt. "Don't eat it all at once," Ameiko tells him as she hands him the basket.
He laughs. "Oh, it'll be eaten all at once," he says and gives her a light kiss on the forehead. "You know they'll devour it in a flash. I'll be lucky to get a piece."
Ameiko turns to Malan and the others who are now arriving behind him. "Malan, have you met my old friend Sandru Vhiski?"
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I'd like to propose something to make finding PFS groups easier. Currently if you live in between venture officers listed in the guide it can be a little tricky and possibly offputting to ask around to where the games are, as VC's tend to cover some pretty huge and and always intuitive swaths of territory.
When you report a game it comes with a location. That location gets saved somewhere . This part already happens.
What would be nice is if you can input your location and see where past games have taken place and how long ago they were to see where/how active the groups are and who's playing. If you see that there was a PFS at Bookend Comics last week there's a good chance of an active group. If you see there was a game played there last year you know there might be a group you can dust off.
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That is all
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Whats the best way to hold/organize all of this paperwork? Between boons, Characters, ITSs, chronicle sheets, redacted project bluebook reports, my multiple small binders with plastic covers system is starting to get a little stressed out. Whats an alternative... besides a filing cabinet on wheels with a padded top that converts into a bench?
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Is the sensor on a magical trap part of the trap that can be detected and disabled, or do you need to be able see the sensor itself to detect the trap or reach the heart of the trap itself through the sensor field somehow to disable it without setting it off?
All too often i see dms trying to be clever and placing the Trap around the corner, or under something so that the trap can't be approached without going through the sensor. The problem is that it completely negates the ability to detect and disarm traps that are supposed to have perception and disarm dcs.
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Grrr de'Bonaire. Kitsune
Concept: Run into someone's square and pile hit penalties on them like crazy, then evicerate them with multiple sneak attacks.
I'll be starting this guy off at level 3 anyway for fox shape, so he doesn't have to work before then.
1st: Urban Barbarian 1 Feat: Feat: Pirhana strike (retrained)
2nd: Mouser swashbuckler 1
3rd: Unchained rogue (vexing dodger) 1 Feat: Foxshape. Start play.
4th: Urban barbarian 2 Lesser beat totem
5th: UC Rogue 2: Rogue talent replaced by archetype. Combat expertise
6th: UC rogue 3:
7th: UC rogue 4: Feat: Improved trip. Rogue talent:Uncanny dodge. Rogues edge: Climb.
8th: UC rogue 5
9th: UC Rogue 6 Feat Extra rage Rogue talent ninja trick wall climber
10th:UC Rogue 7
11th: UC rogue 8 Feat?? Rogue talent??
Str 7
Dex:17 (22 in fox form)
Con 14
Int 13
wis 14
Chr 13
Gear Priorities : agile amulet. Wand of mage armor.
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Limb-Climber (Ex):
When adjacent to or in the space of a corporeal creature at least one size category larger than herself, a vexing dodger can climb that creature's body with a successful Climb check against a DC equal to the target creature's CMD. Although the vexing dodger is holding on to the creature, this action isn't a grapple; it doesn't provoke attacks of opportunity from the creature, and neither the vexing dodger nor the creature she climbs gains the grappled condition. While the vexing dodger is on the climbed creature, the creature takes a penalty on attack rolls against the vexing dodger equal to the number of sneak attack dice the dodger possesses.
This ability replaces trapfinding.
What kind of action is this to use? Standard because you're making a kind of grapple thingy or a part of movement because you're climbing?
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So, I was at a con this weekend and completely missed Baltimore going up in flames apparently. What happened?
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Gregarious (Ex) Even among your own kind, your gift for making friends stands out. Whenever you successfully use Diplomacy to win over an individual, that creature takes a –2 penalty to resist any of your Charisma-based skill checks for the next 24 hours. This racial trait replaces agile.
I cannot for the life of me figure out what this does.
There's no opposed check for charisma based skills, its just a DC
When you charm someone its a charisma check to goad them, not a charisma based skill check.
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A GM may apply credit for running a scenario, module,
or Adventure Path in any of the same ways a player can, and
must follow the same rules as a player when applying credit
to a character.
So does that mean that, like a level 1 who had played as a pregen 3-7, I could apply it to a level 1 character?
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Does the feat Extra item slot require a 3 intelligence to take?
Note: The Animal Magic Item Slots table found on the inside front cover of the book is not legal except under the following conditions. First, an animal companion, familiar, or bonded mount, may choose one slot listed under its body type when taking the Extra Item Slot feat (this feat may be taken multiple times, each time selecting a different available magic item slot based on the creature's anatomy). Second, access to specific magic item slots may be granted at a later date by another legal source.
Argument that it does require a 3 int: Its not on the list of feats animal companions can take without 3 intelligences. The additional resources statement changes how the feat works, but not how one gets access to it.
Argument that it doesn't require a 3 int: access for them is granted by the above additional resources statement
The feat is clearly intended to be taken by animal companions. From the animal archive "This section presents new feats for animal companions and familiars, as well as for PCs that make use of these animals"
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We all know that it can be a little hard for each character to get the spotlight time, or customize the adventure for them the way you can in a home game. One of the things I like to do at the start of the adventure is let their introduction say more about them than what they look like by having them do/react to something.
So, how do you go about letting the players introduce their characters in interesting ways? Something to chivy them into a better description than 5th level fighter with blond hair?
What is your character doing at the ungodly hour that the venture captains look for them? The scene where kirk wakes up with blaring rock music, bottles of tequilia and two aliens in bed tells you a lot about him in a short period of time. Are they already up and praying/going for their 5 mile run? Jumping out the window as the jealous husband comes home? Just dragging themselves in from a night of partying?
If doing a travel montage ask the the player for an obstacle or encounter they're particularly well suited for and how they overcame it
If the adventure starts off in a particular location, ask what they did to wind up there. Why someone's in detention in the archives says a lot about them.
Start off with a cinematically resolved combat: no daily abilities are used, no spells are actually burned, but it still gives your party members an idea of what you can do so they can adjust their tactics accordingly (and know when to duck)
Venture captain ____Sending you on the adventure____ is ____emotion_____ with you. Why?
Hmmm. Need to make a pathfinders against humanity card deck for this...
Meal time. Is your character a caydenite with a liquid lunch? A tree hugging elf snacking on granola, or eating pork limbs right off the stick?
Holiday: it takes a little work but golarion has a lot of holidays. Pick the one closest to the real life date and see how the characters celebrate it.
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Dolomite: Dwarven Arcanist (Blade adept)
A mountain dwarf from the frozen north. His Grandmother was killed trying to kill a monster plaguing the Raptor scale people. A botched resurrection attempt by their shaman put her soul in her axe. Dolomite has joined the pathfinder society in hopes of learning enough arcane lore to fix the problem himself, because that's the only way to do it right.
And there's no way he's explaining this to grandpa.
Str 17
Dex 8
Con 18
Int 15
Wis 9
Cha 5
Traits: Accelerated drinker, Magical Lineage shocking grasp (boring but practical)
1st: Tribal scars: Raptor scale (+6hp and 5 feet of movement)
3rd: Weapon Focus: Dwarven Axe (Boring, but I need every +hit I can get)
5th: Hardy
7th: Intensify Spell
9th: breadth of experience?
The basic plan: I'm going to be hit anyway. May as well have the HP for it until I can throw up Mirror Images.
I really don't care if the build is optimal, just good enough to have some fun with. I'm deliberately picking a bad archetype just to see what I can do with it.
Spells: (Axe works as an arcane bond to pull something out of the spellbook 1/day)
Infernal healing
Shocking grasp
Mage armor
expeditious retreat
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I have plans for the Magusy arcanist dwarf that bashes people in the face with a giant dwarven axe of electrical zappyness.
Can he cast shocking grasp, grab the axe in two hands and then try to cleave someone's head off with the axe?
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It would be handy to have all of a players scenarios played listed on one page, as well as the current page broken up by character. Sometimes you want to see if you've played a scenario and clicking through all the characters can take a while if you're addi.. erm. Have a lot of experience.
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Those of you playing online may have noticed that the layers for the maps lately have gotten hard to extract.
Something i noticed by accident is that if you have a map in acrobat and zoom it in and out a bit, it takes the map longer to crop up the layers than the background. So if you zoom in, zoom out, and hit print screen before the layers pop up, bam, clean map. Just paste it into paint and you're good to go.
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Are red dragons and other creatures with fire resistance subject to other heat related environmental effects?
Under lava it states
Immunity or resistance to fire serves as an immunity or resistance to fire, lava or magma. A creature immune to fire might still drown if completely immersed in lava
But there is no similar clause under Heat dangers. Technically a red dragon is fine dog paddling in a lava pool but still gets fatigued on a hot summer day.
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Changes to Crane wing and corners with reach weapons
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Odd question, is there an existing terminology for the ways different things are related, ie, not related, causal, correlated, two things caused by the same source etc?
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Ran Fuligin here through 3 sessions of PFS.
Clicky name for full build.
I was mildly annoyed at how few of the items are usable at low levels. They have a maximum number of points allowable in them that, when you do the math, means you can't use them at first level.
The basics:
Int and dex based character enchanting a kurki to be an agile weapon.
Play was pretty much where I expected it to be. I'm a very meh self buffing fighter with a pretty good skill selection.
Level 2 playtest
Slave pits of Absolom
Fight 1: Ran around back of the bar nothing to see here
Made ok use of the Int to diplomacy trait to
Fight 2: Puddle jumpers.
A couple rolls of 1 for automatic misses. When not rolling 1's , does enough damage to drop or seriously injure a few mooks. Takes a few good hits thanks to some good rolls.
Fight on a ship: Walk up and whack for 6 damage or so a round. Nothing really exciting in the combat here. The mobility from the self enchanted sandles is pretty good for flanking though.
Prince of Augustana
The psycomancy isn't as sexy as I thought it would be: only being able to look at an item for 1 day per level means you're not really getting the history of the item.
Skills are pretty useful during the investigation.
Thugs: Whack an injured thug. Drop a thug. This seems to be my niche.
More thugs! Whack a thug. Drop a thug. Suck the soul out of a thug. What? He wasn't going to make it anyway.
Dretch fight!
Some good rolls from the monsters got him pretty beat up despite his AC. Gets in a few whacks for 5-6 points of damage before the two handed fighter destroys everything.
Dark waters:
Some cool backstory. It would be nice to psycomancy objects to get more information, but the backstory is 10 years old now, so psycomancy can't do anything.
Gardener: We don't murder hobo this one.
Waterbug: LEAPS into the water and stabs down on it for some pretty good damage.
Swarms: Yay for burning hands. Being able to cast with full hands is kind of a nice option.
Ghoul fight: We pushed the elf into the cooridoor as a meathshield. Nat 1 on the use magic device for the infernal healing. A few misses around the sides, then a useful burning hands to torch the last one (should have done that sooner)
Ghast fight: Got blinded. Used the extra movement power to leave. With some distance started shooting elemental ray to moderate effectiveness.
Overall impression: the versatility is ok and useful, but hard to take advantage of so far.
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New FAQ on stat stacking
Do ability modifiers from the same ability stack? For instance, can you add the same ability bonus on the same roll twice using two different effects that each add that same ability modifier?
No. An ability bonus, such as "Strength bonus", is considered to be the same source for the purpose of bonuses from the same source not stacking. However, you can still add, for instance “a deflection bonus equal to your Charisma modifier” and your Charisma modifier. For this purpose, however, the paladin's untyped "bonus equal to her Charisma bonus (if any) on all saving throws" from divine grace is considered to be the same as "Charisma bonus (if any)", and the same would be true for any other untyped "bonus equal to her [ability score] bonus" constructions.
Happy dance
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Every pregens terrible...
The wizards spellbooks thinner than the the sharp edge of reality
with valeros dual wielding calling miss is mere formality
The one to pick I fear I must prognosticate
with cons that low i doubt at all they can coagulate
Why anyone would play a toon this bad remains a mystery
I can't believe you'd tolerate them in your character history
with Merisiels lack of social skills you will achieve
a little less p a then if you'd maxed out ranks in basket-weave
That I'd rather eat an otyug may speak to my neurology
but the saranite is limited to healing methodology
the thought of picking any one of them's unbearable
Harsk is bad beyond the worst but every pregens terrible.
(and this is why i souldn't listen to xkcd while on the forums)
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You do not exist for you.
you were not made for you.
You were made as a means to an end. Namely your DNA made you to make more dna.
Thats it. That is as deep as life goes. That is the alpha and the omega.
Life is not nice to the individual. It doesn't care if you're happy, sad, hungry, full. Whatever gets the dna spread is what it uses.
Something goes horribly wrong? So what. The individual is meaningless to DNA. evolution is a system where "something went wrong, so you live only to know pain and death" is a feature.
Lifes "plan" for you is to keep cranking out babies. If that encourages you to cheat, stay with an abusive spouse, or to get into a relationship you're going to regret, doesn't matter.
To make matters worse, the plan is made with million year old assumptions. DNA does not change nearly as fast as society. As far as the DNA is concerned, its cranking out a machine to survive in a hunter gatherer tribe slash extended family with spears and clubs.
If that sounds like a bad way to live in a world of nuclear weapons,internet nation states and individual rights... you're right. Its one thing when the sociopathic indifference to non relatives has you invade the next tribe over, kill the men and rape the women. It becomes something entirely different when the people in charge of deciding to attack don't actually have to face the slings and arrows themselves.
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You can click the profile to see the build so far. I made a wild empathy focused druid just to see if I could, and she's now knocking on 9th level. Lot of good role playing with this one, even if there were a few times I wished for the raw power of my other druids, toning down the power has its upsides too.
1st: Spell focus conjuration
Human: Augment Summoning
3rd: Vermin Hearted
5th: Fast empathy
7th: Ooze whisperer
Greater wild empathy Would seem to be a shoo in, but there's a few problems with it even after the errata: There are no elementals, fey, or lycanthropes with an int score low enough to fall for wild empathy. Vermin hearted is miles and away better for vermin. I don't think I've seen a plant monster in PFS that wasn't rocking the intelligence of the paladins at least. Finally the +2 insight bonus is superceded by the +4 insight bonus off of the zoic fetish.
Harrowed (recently cleared for legality) and harrowed summoning would be a little more OMPH to the summons, and playing with a tarot deck seems fun.
Moonlight Summons: Getting through DR cold iron can be handy. I'm just worried about the ones that are DR cold iron AND good.
Natural spell: Usually by the time she's doing the "Turn into an earth elemental, 5 foot step down" escape trick she's out of spells anyway.
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Undersized Mount:
Prerequisite(s): Ride 1 rank.
Benefit: You can ride creatures of your size category, although encumbrance or other factors might limit how you can use this ability.
Normal: Typically a mount suited for you is at least one size category larger than you.
PFS FAQ on mounts:
As a paladin or cavalier, what mount can I have?
As a paladin, your divine bond mount must be at least one size category larger than you starting at 1st level. If you’re a Medium PC, your mount must be Large. If you’re a Small PC, your mount must be at least Medium. You may only select a mount from the listed mounts on page 63 of the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook unless another source grants access to additional creature choices. As a cavalier, you may select a mount from those listed on page 33 of the Advanced Player's Guide. No additional mounts are legal in Pathfinder Society Organized Play except when granted from another legal source.
Currently, the Undersized mount feat won't work for paladins and cavaliers (for whom the feat was probably intended) because of the PFS rules about mount sizes. Can PFS characters with the mount class feature taking this feat get mounts of their size category anyway?
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The checkout procedure has more than a few bugs.
Its not immediately obvious what you're supposed to press when you're done. The big squares saying steps 1 2 3 don't look like something you're supposed to interact with.
The line for your credit card info is above the line for your address. You enter your credit card info, enter your address and... the site deletes your credit card info.
The box for "select address" keeps popping up even with an address entered. It covers the aforementioned 1 2 3 box preventing you from advancing the process.
A lot of the items ship from different places apparently, resulting in some pretty high shipping charges. 5 dollars shipping for a 10 dollar character folio that I tried to combine with another order seems a little nuts.
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This item is going to be problematic. Its basically an all day, no save daze attainable at mid level PFS. As daze doesn't come with any actual descriptors, I don't even know if anything would be immune to it.
Three times
per day, the wearer can spend a
standard action to purposely miss an
opponent, performing a dramatic feint
that causes that opponent to lose its Dexterity bonus to AC
until the wearer’s next turn. If a swashbuckler wearing the
cloak of feinting performs the superior feint deed or uses
this cape’s ability, the opponent is also dazed until the start
of the swashbuckler’s next turn.
Superior Feint (Ex): At 7th level, a swashbuckler with
at least 1 panache point can, as a standard action,
purposefully miss a creature she could make a melee
attack against with a wielded light or one-handed
piercing weapon. When she does, the creature is
denied its Dexterity bonus to AC until the start of the
swashbuckler’s next turn
Superior feint doesn't even use up a penache point. All you have to do is keep one in your pool (which is SOP anyway)> so swashbuckler moves up, declares a miss, and the big bad is auto dazed for the party to wale on. Every single time, no roll, no save.
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Once per day, the wearer can
activate it; when she does, the
plume provides her with 1 panache
point that can be used for that deed. Once used, the plume
appears wilted and bedraggled until its magic is replenished.
... except that this item never references a deed to be "that deed"
Is it basically an extra penache per day?
Does it need to be attuned to a specific deed ?
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How prominent are the pew pew lasers in this one? I know its the background/macguffin but now much does it show up in the scenario?
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Let me see if i have this strait?
Half elves can take human,elf, or half elf favored class bonuses because they count as both and because of this post
Half orcs can take half orc and human bonuses (but not orc because everything orc is banned)
This post means that Aasimar with scion of humanity, which normally could take alternate favored class bonuses can't, despite most Alaternate class bonuses being in the advanced players guide
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So, with This post we have some guidelines for how Aasimar and Tiefling grandfathering works. Played characters need to be played as aasimar/tieflings, DM credit should be declared aasimars/tieflings.
So, for those of you who don't have a notary in your gaming group, this thread exists to provide a time stamped proof positive record of your native outsideryness.
Aasimar (Idylykin)
Born 7/20/14
Played in The devil you know I
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Ooze Whisperer
Source Dungeon Denizens Revisited pg. 18
You have a special bond with slimes and oozes.
Prerequisites: Wild empathy class feature.
Benefit: You may target oozes with spells and special abilities that normally only affect animals as if the oozes were magical beasts with Intelligence 1, though they gain a +4 bonus to their saving throws. You may use wild empathy to influence oozes as easily as you influence magical beasts with Intelligence 1.
1) The hyper literal reading of this is a contradiction: if something affects only animals then it by definition won't affect magical beasts.
2) The ability works on anything that affects both animals an magical beasts. Which is a pretty limited list. All i can find is
Wild empathy (specifically called out as working)
Handle animal oddly enough (Special: You can use this skill on a creature with an Intelligence score of 1 or 2 that is not an animal, but the DC of any such check increases by 5. Such creatures have the same limit on tricks known as animals do.)
The Carry companion spell (remember those snot wads you could buy in the super market vending machines? you have one!)
and last and most hillariously: Pup shape You turn the ooze smaller, and absolutely adorable.
3) The ooze is affected as if it were an animal (so charm animal, dominate animal etc) Most important for speak with animal. I like making the dm impersonate an ooze.
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A giant, winged humanoid tries to hammer in one end of a banner into the masonry walls of the meeting hall. After a few taps, he hits his thumb, grumbles something in ancient osirioni, and simply presses the nail into the wall with his thumb. He repeats the process on the other side, letting the banner reveal
Welcome Scarab sages
a smaller sign beneath reads "Under new management"
He smiles and walks to a shadowy corner of the room, giving free access to the steaming plates of Ful Medames, Mulukhiya, and Feseekh. The latter has a vial of antitoxin next to it, just in case.
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I was watching a crash course video on literature (because i really liked their history series) and one idea they had was that authorial intent doesn't matter, its the symbolic resonance that the reader gets from the reading that matters.
But if this is true then there should be no value in symbolism that you personally don't pick up on. If we're going to go existentialist, why does it matter if some literary critics and professors see that symbolism? Its hard to say that its objectively there if some people see it, some people don't, and the person who wrote the words somehow missed it.
Mild swearing diagram to illustrate the problem
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Litany of righteousness
Why is this an inquisitor spell if inquisitors don't have an aura? Raw you can't even pick up the aura with the feat to get this to work.
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Scenarios are not sold in print. They exist not just as PDFs, but ONLY as PDFs. Many of the constraints of print that make it harder to get into DMing and more difficult to run a game but there's no discernible reason for that to be the case.
• Give me the stat blocks
On a gaming table, I have the scenario, a bunch of minis, a pizza, dice, soda, markers, minis, pens, pencils, paper for initiative, minis, rulebooks and dice. The second to thing i want is to add a bestiary or two to the juggling act of things in front of me.
The absolute last thing I want to do is to have to template the monsters manually on a sheet of paper that's going to vanish into my geek bag along with Jimmy Hoffa. Its not just the time that this saves prepping but how much easier to run when I don't need to switch between telling the story and fighting the monster. Less work for DMs= More Dms.
• Give me the stat blocks on one page
In destiny of the sands 3, between the stat block, a picture, and a map someone/thing's stat block is spread out over three pages. Thats a lot of flipping back and forth to do during a fight scene.
But people DO print these things out...
-Yes they do. But currently they usually also print something off of the shared GM Prep Drive or the monsters off of the SRD. Making the scenario 3 pages shorter means i need to print out 4 more pages of stuff.
Dare to cut loose your earthly bonds and soar
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It seems this season a lot of the scenarios begin by having the venture captain hand you off to a faction head. (weapon in the rift, Fate of the fiend, Destiny of the sands III) This can be confusing for new players getting a flurry of names in. Is there any function to these people being there at all or can they be written out entirely?
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Thank you for that. It makes it so much easier to download than finding something on an ever growing list.
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Apsu is listed as a legal deity in the inner sea world guide.
Faiths of purity says that he doesn't have human followers.
But James Jacobs has said repeatedly that faiths and purities is in error.
He does indeed grant spells. He's no different than any other deity in that regard.
The bit about him not granting spells was a complete and total error that slipped through to print.
That's a complete error. Apsu grants spells. His domains are even listed in the Inner Sea World Guide (although there's an unfortunate error there)...
His domains granted area Artifice, Good, Law, Scalykind, and Travel.
In fact, the fact that Apsu can grant spells is one of the reasons I devoted one of the two new domains introduced in that book to Scalykind.
Apsu, in other words, grants spells SO HARD that I had to write new rules for granting spells.
There are humanoid paladins of Apsu (and if you read the question, it specifically addresses the "he only gives spells to dragons argument Linky
The line that says "...except cleric or paladin, for Apsu does not grant spells..." should be blotted out with a big thick black pen. I recommend a sharpie, since that stuff covers up anything.
It's a strange error
I honestly can't say why that line got in there, to tell the truth. It sneaked by the developers, who probably should have scrubbed it from the book. Things like that get by now and then.
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It goes crane style---> Crane wing---> Crane riposte
Can people bailing on crane wing and crane riposte also swap out crane style?
Many people took crane style in order to get crane wing and crane riposte. Now that crane wing and crane riposte have changed can they also trade out crane style or do they need to spend PP for that? I realize that crane style itself did not effectively change, but as a feat tax for something many people no longer want its fundamental purpose has.
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Girlscout sells cookies outside of pot dispensary. Makes a mint
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1) If i am a spell caster I will have multiple spell component pouches
2) If I am a divine spell caster i will have multiple spell component pouches and multiple holy symbols, and multiple holy symbol tattoos on easy to display parts of my anatomy
3) I will have a contingency plan for grappling.
4) I will not be a one trick pony. Like the players, I will have some means of overcoming unusual challenges the players may throw at me, including a swarm of bees.
5) If I am fighting to the death I will have clear motives for doing so.
6) If melee i WILL have a back up weapon in case my main one is sundered.
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Some pretty damning claims are coming out against North korea including outright concentration camps and deliberate mass starvation.
Are these true or *casts summon goblin* some capitalist plot?
If so what can/should we do about it?
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The bridle of tricks Bridle of tricks " can be placed on any animal or magical beast with an appropriate shape to wear a bridle (creatures with unusual anatomies may be affected with GM discretion)". For PFS does this mean
A) Only horses, mules, and Donkeys (a la horseshoes)
B) Any animal listed as having a head slot available on the chart from the animal archive
C) Any animal that has head slot listed on the chart and has taken the extra slot: head feat.
D) Something else.
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The ancient Osirian temple of Cayden Cailean found!
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Part I
Few things require as much DM adjudication as the diverse and wonderful world of animal companions. Part class feature, part PC, part NPC, Animal companions, their actions and abilities exist in a nebulous intersection of rules, player control, and DM control. So its no surprise that organized play has its own rules about how these non humanoid pathfinders function in the party.
The druid for basic information about your companion. It is very important to note that the animal you see here IS your animal companion species. If the ability isn't listed here then your animal companion doesn't have it. If for example, the bestiary lion gets a stealth bonus in tall grass while your animal companion lion does not because its not a listed ability
The feats spelled out here as animal companions count as access for those feats, so your animal companion can take say improved natural attack even if your druid can't.
Handle animal skill . Very important to point out that the DC to push a critter is 25. The DC to get an animal to do a trick it knows is 10. These are regardless of the DC's listed next to the trick, which are only the difficulty of TEACHING the critter the trick.
The monkey See Monkey do Blog - Which , among other important information, clarifies that your ape animal companion will not use a manufactured weapon for you. Please respect his or her right to choose their own natural weaponry. It also spells out that raising a critters intelligence to three does NOT mean you can stop making handle animal checks.
According to the guide to organized play, You can only have one combat animal active at any time. This makes archetypes and multiclassing options that grant you multiple companions less viable in organized play.
The PFS FAQ on critters
• Animal companions can't activate magic items
• Animal companions are limited to the more restrictive of either [neck+barding+Slots Gained from Extra Slot feat] or The animal archive chart
• Snakes Cannot wear armor (and barding stitches are banned)
• In a slight difference from the Monkey See Monkey Do Blog, animals can learn to understand a language by putting a point in linguistics rather than getting one automatically
• Animals with a 3+ int CAN use Ioun stones
• Your companion does gain extra tricks for having extra intelligence
Mergy's Blog on animal companions Notes that critters need to know the flank and aid trick from the animal archive to use aid another or to go out of their way to flank. One minor note about the animal not learning extra tricks is in error.
A few Random Points and less frequently asked questions
This information from this thread is compiled in the following Google Doc:
Druid's Log: Animal Companions
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Almost every developer has to answer questions from business side like:
Why is going to take 2 days to add this simple contact form?
When a developer estimates this task, they may divide it into steps:
• make some changes to the Database
• optimize DB changes for speed
• add front end HTML
• write server side code
• add validation
• add client side javascript
• use unit tests
• make sure SEO set-up is working
• implement email confirmation
• refactor and optimize the code for speed
• ...
These maybe hard to explain to a non-technical person, who basically sees the whole task as just putting together some HTML and creating a table to store the data. To them it could be 2 hours MAX.
So is there a better way to explain why the estimate is high to a non-developer?
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I upvoted your question because it is the best answer to itself. – JohnFx Feb 13 '11 at 15:38
Exactly. Tell them the deets one time and then maybe they'll understand the specifics... Do it one time and maybe they'll shaddup about the details next time... – Agile Scout Feb 13 '11 at 23:55
possible duplicate of Getting non-programmers to understand the development process – gnat Jun 10 '13 at 22:08
You think it's hard to explain this to non-technical people? Even technical people don't get it! – congusbongus Jun 11 '13 at 6:32
Slapping them with a large trout and screaming at them to bow down before your technological might is certainly more fun but I think the bullets are actually a pretty good idea. – Erik Reppen Jun 14 '13 at 4:38
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You've just done it in your question.
Split the task into the individual steps and give estimates for each one. This will show that you've considered all the options and (hopefully) covered all eventualities.
If the timescales are too great you can then discuss what parts (e.g. e-mail confirmation) aren't need in this case with concrete data rather than just trying to cram a quart into a pint pot.
Do this often enough and you'll hopefully teach them that there's usually more to a development than meet the eye at first glance.
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I typically take it one step further and put it into Microsoft Project. It's something professional they can take to their bosses and you can list out the time for each (preferably in hours) and then show all the steps involved. It's much harder for them to argue about individual tasks taking 4 hours and adding up to a week. If you have tasks listed that take days or weeks try to break them up into smaller tasks. – Daniel Knoodle Feb 13 '11 at 15:20
@Daniel - I suppose it depends on how "formal" you need to get, but Project (or equivalent) does look more professional. – ChrisF Feb 13 '11 at 15:23
Indeed I agree on the formalities being more than needed for some cases. It's all about which option gets less push back and how far up the ladder it has to go. Personally I use project to schedule house chores.. lol – Daniel Knoodle Feb 13 '11 at 18:34
There's a saying, "You can't fit ten pounds of (crap) in a five-pound bag." Your job is to show that the task is ten pounds and they're asking to have it in a five pound timeframe.
The only thing you're missing is the time estimates. Put a time estimate on each task, and show how all these things add up together to the estimate you provide. Don't allow any estimate to be larger than 4 hours. If you have any task where you say "a day" or "10 hours", then break it down into smaller subtasks.
2h make some changes to Database
2h add front end HTML
write server side code
4h input validation
4h database inserts
2h add validation
2h add client side javascript
use unit tests
2h client-side tests
3h server-side tests
2h make sure SEO is setup is working
2h implement email confirmation
2h optimize DB changes for speed
2h refactor and optimize the code for speed
Now you've got an itemized bill of the costs. All told, that totals up to 27 hours of work.
You can now show this to your customer and say "These are the things that must be done, with the cost of each." Use the word "cost", because time IS a cost, and management understands costs. Explain that you could possibly drop the two optimization tasks on the end, but they'll have a negative effect down the road, and they're only 15% of the total estimate.
Also make sure that you explain what your hours/day is, realistically. For example, if you're called on to do tech support, or maintain databases, or whatever, figure that into your estimate. Don't say "Well, I can do 7.5 hours a day of good coding" because you probably can't. It's probably more like 5 or 6.
Then, most importantly, track your progress. Say that you can do 5 hours per day of coding. Then you should be able to knock off the first two tasks (in my example) on Monday, finish the third and start the fourth on Tuesday, and so on. Make a checklist that shows this, so that you can show them on Wednesday when they come by and say "How's it going are you still going to be done by the end of Friday?"
See my slides for my talk Preventing Crisis: Project Estimation and Tracking That Works that I gave at OSCON a few years ago. Look at slide 21, "Planning the week". There's also a sample velocity chart.
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Five or six hours good coding per day? Must be nice! – JUST MY correct OPINION Feb 14 '11 at 10:41
Listing out tasks is just about perfect, but keep in mind that tasks that make perfect sense to an engineer make very little sense to a non-technical person. For example, in the list above, I know that "optimize DB changes for speed" may be one or several time consuming tasks that include profiling the code, running it an looking for slow points, reviewing it with experts, or throwing it through a set of pre-defined tests specific to the product. And then you probably have several hours if not days of pounding your head on your desk while you try to find a way to fix the areas that are too slow.
But you might have lost your project management on the word "DB" if not the word "optimize".
I generally express this stuff to project management in terms of BIG steps with words that describe risk in terms of the business. Taking your list, I'd boil it down this way if I was talking to my project management:
1. First, there's two parts to this thing - the web page that the user sees, and server that does the heavy lifting. Both parts need to be there for this feature to work.
2. The first part will be to craft a web page that makes sense to the user (add front end HTML, add client side javascript). The key here is that the web page has to look like it's part of this product, it has to operate in all the browsers we support and is has to be slick. This what the user sees, so if it looks bad, the user will will think our product is bad. Developing this and then testing it will take X days.
3. Next, there needs to be stuff underneath the web page doing the work. In this case that means insert description of feature here (maps to - make some changes to Database, write server side code, implement email confirmation, add validation, use unit tests). I can't just throw this together. If the code is developed and then tested, we risk causing damage to the data of ALL the users. That means that a simple new thing could damage the product's reputation across the board - even for users who aren't using this particular feature. Our development practices cover this - we do plenty of testing to make sure that won't happen - but that means I've got to plan in the time to test it properly. That will take me Y days.
4. Speed is a big deal in our product. If stuff doesn't happen fast, users will think that the product is no good. So after I write all this stuff, I need to go through the work and make sure that it's up to par in terms of performance. This is a big deal in web stuff - if people see a site become slow, they will quickly turn to a different product to meet the same need, because it's really hard to see the difference between slow and broken. That kind of work typically takes Z days (optimize DB changes for speed, refactor and optimize the code for speed)
I would avoid any estimate that is less than half a day. They are going to have to trust, at some level, that you know what you are talking about. And if they really think that it'll only be 2 hours, then invite them to sit with you for 2 hours while you walk them through exactly what 2 hours looks like in the life of a SW developer - then do a coding 101 class for about 2 hours, to show exactly what all has to be considered to even begin to solve the problem.
Most important is the following things:
• Buy talking most about customer perception and product usage, you're coming part way to speaking their language - the language of $$ - the point is, if the code is hacked together in a shoddy way, you will eventually loose business - if not on this feature, then on some subsequent feature when poor development practices have rendered it impossible to extend the code.
• Set out a sequence of events. The next non-technical question will be "if we got more developers than you, would this happen faster? If so, if it will take 40 hours to make this, can 40 people make it happen this afternoon?" The answer, of course, is "NO! ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND??". But that's not the best one. The best one is that there's a logical sequence of steps here. Thing B can't be done until thing A is in place (if you haven't written any code, you can't really optimize or test it...). Thing A and A' could be done together though, so if they could spare that smart guy over there you could shave the time down from a week to 4 days, and if they can guarantee the awesome test support, then you could probably get to 3 days. There's usually some space for wheeling and dealing on that - but make sure you bargain for stuff that will actually help.
• Focus on risk and be prepared to be told that some risks are worth it at this time. That's what the business guys get paid the big bucks for - figuring out what risks are worth taking. For example, if speed to market out weighs poor performance because your company has enough cash in hand to stage a ridiculous number of servers in the short term, then you may get told to skip all that stuff in step 4 (the code/database optimization). That's their right - it's just your job to explain the risks inherent in that decision.
• However, if you don't trust these folks, do get a confirmation in writing - it doesn't have to be confrontational, just a quick email saying "here's what I think we discussed, here's what I'm not doing, here's the risk. I'm going to do it now, so let me know if you disagree... if I don't hear from, you I'll assume this is the right way to proceed". Given that product management can be the center for short term memory loss, this is pretty helpful for everyone.
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Ask them:
How would you do it? Which modules would you change? How many lines of code? What are the security implications? Any changes to the database schema? If you make any change to the DB, how many files are affected? How long did it take to add the last form? What is the average (arithmetic mean) for adding a form? What was the longest? I'll estimate it will take one minute less than the longest. If you don't know how long it took to add the last N forms, then this estimate is only guaranteed to be accurate to one order of magnitude.
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Variable names can be written in many ways, but the most common that I'm familiar with are:
• thisisavariable,
• this_is_a_variable, and
• thisIsAVariable.
Which of these are preferred, and why?
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Some programming languages or frameworks have their conventions about variable naming.
I believe that more important than the way you name variables is to be consistent and stick with certain style during a project. This becomes extremely important within a team, where the code must be easily understood at first sight by anyone who reads it.
IMHO the rest is a matter of taste.
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Hi, sorry to barge in so late. The answer is good on its own, but I often run into the following dilemma about conventions. Let's say a project is using several components devised in multiple frameworks/languages. Some of these frameworks by convention use camel case and some use underscores. Should we prioritize being consistent throughput the project or sticking to the specific frameworks' conventions? – Greg Kramida Aug 22 '12 at 18:53
Personal I prefer camel case. The most important is that you can read the variable name and it's meaning. And because of that I think it does not matter if you use undercases or camel case. Only your first example (thisisavariable) is a bad way I think beacause it is heavy hard to read!
Generally it depends on your programming language!
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Agreed. With his first listed convention, how does one know whether ihaveagirlfriendwhoishot should be "[...]who is hot" or "[...]who I shot"? – Craige Feb 22 '11 at 15:51
Sometimes I prefer underscore when you have to deal with acronymns in variable names.
For instance, suppose "My YAQRT team" is a meaningful variable name.
1.) MyYAQRTTeam -or-
2.) MyYaqrtTeam -or-
3.) my_yaqrt_team
Which is best? I prefer number 3. Although I like camel case, when you have acronymns, it just makes things difficult to read.
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someone should upvote this more because i feel the same – ColacX Aug 3 '14 at 10:54
Bjarne Stroustrup claims the underscore naming is the most readable according to some research. I' not sure which research he is referring to, but obviously, words separated with blanks are most naturally readable compared to other styles.
As for typing, unfortunately the underscore style loses the case a bit: _ is not the most convenient symbol for typing, requires both hands to be involved.
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It depends on the programming language. Underscores are the preferred naming convention in Python. Camel case is the preferred convention in C#.
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I'd say the first kindofvariablenames should never be used.
Anything else can be used depending on the environment. Not only your own choice matters here, but also the language and the libraries styles. Languages may have explicit style guides. Libraries may have ad-hoc naming, but you'd better take it into account as well.
For example, if you write under Windows in a language with strict typing, where API functions are NamedLikeThat and soDoTheirArguments, it seems logical to follow the trend and use camel case with type prefixes. In the same way, if you write under Unix in a language with weak typing, a typical_call(may_look, like_that) and it's also fine.
There is no universal truth here, everything goes as soon as it's readable and everyone agrees. You can extend the rules in any way you like. I for example have this aged habit of naming local parameters starting with underscore, so that for example a C++ constructor may look like this:
C::C(const int _iCount) : m_iCount(_iCount) { }
and find it very convenient.
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The specifics don't really matter as long as everybody agrees.
I would choose one that allready exists:
• to help the adopting to new people on the team
• there is no need to invent the wheel yourself
• you might get tooling support to check and refactor
Most coding standards are for a specific language and make a distinction between the type of variables. (private, public, static etc.) so you can tell what kind of variable it is by just looking at the name.
For c# examples look at this blog post for different coding guidelines for c#.
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The preferred one is the one of the language and libraries you are using. It's important to have a consistent style, and adhering to the used environment prevents mixing different styles. Though not every language has such a dominant style (C++ comes to mind). In these cases it's purely personal preference. Just agree on something and stick to it.
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This totally depends upon mutual agreement by team members. After all, code is meant for developers, reviewers, auditors and other team members, and hence needs to be clean, easily modifiable and ambiguity free. Variables have little scope for any particular class or function and are expected to have some meaningful name. As long as variable conveys its intension, case remains nominal. And hence any approved standard can be used and followed during development.
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All of them are preferred. It just depends on who you ask.
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QUANTIFYING A LIE. The new print issue of the Prospect features a disagreement in the letters page between Todd Gitlin and Alan Abramowitz over the question of just how often the meme "Al Gore claimed he invented the Internet" appeared in the American media during the 2000 campaign. Since the media�s war on Gore is something I�ve written about before for the Prospect, I thought I�d settle this dispute.
(Before we get there, of course, let�s just make it clear: Al Gore never said he invented the Internet. In an interview with CNN on March 9, 1999, he said, �During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.� This comment was plainly about his service in the Congress in the 1980s, when Gore was in fact the chief advocate for providing the funding that would transform the Internet from a tiny network linking a few university research facilities into the benevolent provider of shopping opportunities and Paris Hilton videos we enjoy today.)
In his review of Eric Boehlert�s Lapdogs: How the Press Rolled Over for Bush, Gitlin quoted Boehlert saying that �more than 4,800� news stories during the 2000 campaign made reference to the phony Gore-invented-the-Internet meme. In his letter to the Prospect, Professor Abramowitz says, �a Lexis-Nexis search reveals only 19 mentions of the 'Gore-invented-the-Internet' charge in major American newspapers between January 1, 2000, and Election Day.� Responding, Gitlin writes: �when I did [a search] just now, Lexis-Nexis turned up neither 4,800-plus entries, nor the 19 that Professor Abramowitz found, but 445.�
They�re obviously not doing the same search. The meme is captured in the phrase �invented the Internet� -- in 2000, it showed up in jokes, in Republican ads, and in numerous asides from reporters. So the best search would simply be on stories mentioning Al Gore, and using the phrase �invented the Internet,� with both present and past tense covered. The complete search string should be �Al Gore and (invent the Internet or invented the Internet)�.
We�ll search both the Lexis-Nexis �All News� file, which includes everything there is, and "Major Papers," and we'll search just in 2000, as they did, and also go back all the way to Gore�s original CNN interview in March 1999. The results:
Major papers, January 1, 2000 to November 2, 2000: 503
Major papers, March 9, 1999 to November 2, 2000: 740
All news, January 1, 2000 to November 2, 2000: 1724
All news, March 9, 1999 to November 2, 2000: 2625
How did Abramowitz come up with his number? My suspicion is that he actually searched on the phrase �Gore invented the Internet,� and perhaps limited his search to "Major Papers."
The point always to come back to is this: First, Gore made a perfectly accurate statement that was twisted by Republicans into something he never said; second, the lie about Gore was taken by reporters as a symbol of what they already believed to be true about Gore; third, it was then repeated so many times that everyone just assumed it to be true; and finally, it had a severe impact on Gore�s electoral fortunes. I�ve done analyses of 2000 opinion data, and after you control for party identification and race, the strongest predictor of vote choice was not any issue, but whether voters thought each candidate was honest. They thought Gore wasn't, and that Bush was. How quaint it all seems.
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A Party with Pirattitude
Question: What do some disgruntled pirates do when they want to advocate for more privacy rights and government transparency?
Answer: They form a political p-ARRR-ty. (For those of you who don't get pirate humor, well, I'm sorry.)
In honor of the SOPA protest day, I thought I'd point everyone to the Massachusetts Pirate Party. According to its Facebook page, the party wants to "open up government, defend your privacy" through copyright reform and abolishing patents. A fairly specific agenda, but the pirates are only one of 21 third parties in Massachusetts, explains an article in the Cape Cod Times
According to the article:
Out of the nearly 4.2 million Massachusetts voters who registered for the 2010 elections, 52 percent, or 2.16 million, were unenrolled. Around 1.53 million, or 36 percent of voters, registered as Democrats. Eleven percent, or 474,798, were Republicans and 15,857, or 0.38 percent, were Libertarians.
Another 8,438 Massachusetts voters, or one-fifth of 1 percent, choose other political designations. The largest such designation is the Green-Rainbow Party, with 4,949 voters, more than one-fifth of them in Middlesex County. At the other end is the New Alliance Party, with two registered voters in Middlesex County.
Not exactly a huge contingent no matter how you slice it, but with the widespread dissatisfaction with our political leaders, it wouldn't be surprising to see more local third parties cropping up around the country. I've contacted the Pirate Party's "first officer," but so far have yet to hear back.
In the mean time, the article is worth a glance. I don't want to spoil the surprise or anything, but there's also a Pizza Party—somehow, it's only got one member.
Pirate Party Vs. Pizza Party - So...forming a political party is very easy. Dissatisfaction is one of the strong reasons for new parties cropping up in the locality. Thanks for the Article details. Cafe Dilara
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1. Is there a shift to “active nanostructures”?
It has been suggested that an important transition in the long-run trajectory of nanotechnology development is a shift from passive to active nanostructures. Such a shift could present different or increased societal impacts and require new approaches for risk assessment. An active nanostructure “changes or evolves its state during its operation,” according to the National Science Foundation’s (2006) Active Nanostructures and Nanosystems grant solicitation. Active nanostructure examples include nanoelectromechanical systems (NEMS), nanomachines, self-healing materials, targeted drugs and chemicals, energy storage devices, and sensors. This article considers two questions: (a) Is there a “shift” to active nanostructures? (b) How can we characterize the prototypical areas into which active nanostructures may emerge? We build upon the NSF definition of active nanostructures to develop a research publication search strategy, with a particular intent to distinguish between passive and active nanotechnologies. We perform bibliometric analyses and describe the main publication trends from 1995 to 2008. We then describe the prototypes of research that emerge based on reading the abstracts and review papers encountered in our search. Preliminary results suggest that there is a sharp rise in active nanostructures publications in 2006, and this rise is maintained in 2007 and through to early 2008. We present a typology that can be used to describe the kind of active nanostructures that may be commercialized and regulated in the future.
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Active nanostructures; Active nanotechnology; Bibliometrics; Trends; Prototypes; Science and technology trends
2. How interdisciplinary is nanotechnology?
Journal of Nanoparticle Research 2009;11(5):1023-1041.
Facilitating cross-disciplinary research has attracted much attention in recent years, with special concerns in nanoscience and nanotechnology. Although policy discourse has emphasized that nanotechnology is substantively integrative, some analysts have countered that it is really a loose amalgam of relatively traditional pockets of physics, chemistry, and other disciplines that interrelate only weakly. We are developing empirical measures to gauge and visualize the extent and nature of interdisciplinary interchange. Such results speak to research organization, funding, and mechanisms to bolster knowledge transfer. In this study, we address the nature of cross-disciplinary linkages using “science overlay maps” of articles, and their references, that have been categorized into subject categories. We find signs that the rate of increase in nano research is slowing, and that its composition is changing (for one, increasing chemistry-related activity). Our results suggest that nanotechnology research encompasses multiple disciplines that draw knowledge from disciplinarily diverse knowledge sources. Nano research is highly, and increasingly, integrative—but so is much of science these days. Tabulating and mapping nano research activity show a dominant core in materials sciences, broadly defined. Additional analyses and maps show that nano research draws extensively upon knowledge presented in other areas; it is not constricted within narrow silos.
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Nanotechnology research activity patterns; Nanotechnology trends; Nanoscale science and engineering; Interdisciplinarity; Bibliometrics; Science mapping
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Perl::Critic::Policy::RegularExpressions::ProhibitUnusedCapture - Only use a capturing group if you plan to use the captured value.
Perl regular expressions have multiple types of grouping syntax. The basic parentheses (e.g. m/(foo)/) captures into the magic variable $1. Non-capturing groups (e.g. m/(?:foo)/ are useful because they have better runtime performance and do not copy strings to the magic global capture variables.
It's also easier on the maintenance programmer if you consistently use capturing vs. non-capturing groups, because that programmer can tell more easily which regexps can be refactored without breaking surrounding code which may use the captured values.
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This policy will only recognize capture groups referred to by these variables if the use is subscripted by a literal integer.
This policy will not recognize capture groups referred to only by these variables, because there is in general no way by static analysis to determine which capture group is referred to. For example,
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Everything You Need to Know about XML
What an excellent little book!
In a scant 96 pages, Eckstein and Casabianca have managed to present everything you need to know to get up and running with XML. After the obligatory review of what XML is and why it's needed, as well as definitions of some of the key concepts of XML technology, the authors launch into a concise, though comprehensive, discussion of DTD (Document Type Definition) design and construction. A DTD specifies the overall structure and content of a valid XML document; it specifies the elements a document can contain as well as the allowed attributes of those elements. Element declarations, entities, and attribute declarations are well covered here, and the examples are clear and unambiguous.
The authors then embark on a discussion of XSL (Extensible Stylesheet Language). The two XML technologies that fall under this rubric are XSLT (Extensible Stylesheet Language Transformations) and XSL-FO (Extensible Stylesheet Language, Formatting Objects). Because XSL-FO is not yet a very mature technology, little attention is paid to it. However, the coverage of XSLT is the richest part of the entire book.
Essentially, XSLT allows you to transform one XML document into another XML format; for example, from a custom XML DTD to XHTML for display in a browser. It converts one set of tags into another set of tags via a mapping in a template file. And XSLT ends up being much more than a way to map tags to tags: the authors illustrate the looping and conditional constructs of XSLT that allow you to program simple logic into the transformation process. After several clear examples of XSLT, the authors provide a long reference section of XSLT elements. It would have been nice if the book contained a long example illustrating the proper use of several of these elements in a stylesheet, but you can get the gist just by looking at their generic, element by element, definitions.
XPATH is the next topic of discussion. XPATH actually underlies the transformation process in XSLT by providing the syntax that locates each node in the document to be transformed. As such, XPATH is sort of a "regular expression" technology of XML. XPATH also provides the direction or "axes" in which the document and its nodes should be traversed, as well as some built-in functions that can be used to do such things as count the number of nodes in a branch of the document, search and compare strings, return the sum of the numerical values contained in a set of nodes, and so on.
So the simple looping and conditional contructs of the XSLT elements, coupled with the rich syntax of XPATH used to locate and otherwise manipulate node values in an XML tree, make XSLT a very powerful tool for data formatting and transformation. Again, one long example illustrating as many of these distinct technologies as possible would have been enlightening.
The last part of the Pocket Reference is dedicated to a discussion of XPointer and XLink - technologies that allow for the interlinking of XML documents. As the authors point out, this is essentially the same as the use of anchors and internal links within HTML documents. Use of these technologies basically allows for the linking of one section of a document to another section, either in the same document or in an entirely different one. It's interesting to note that XLink provides for linking from a single link to multiple targets.
With this book O'Reilly has added yet another winner to their fine catalog. As with other O'Reilly publications, the writing style is eminently readable. The typographical conventions used consistently throughout the book make even a quick scan visually informative.
Finally, as the authors note in their introduction: "Some XML-related specifications are still in flux as this book goes to print. However, after reading this book we hope that the components that make up XML will seem a little less foreign."
As far as this reader is concerned, the authors have admirably achieved their objective. I recommend this book highly for those who want to incorporate XML technologies into their Web applications.
XML: Pocket Reference, 2nd Edition
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I used to install percona's mysql build by their deb package. However, recently I bought a linode vps and want to do some customizing. Seeking for configure options is failed and can not find useful information from their blog or in tarball package.
Who can help me?
More best practices is appreciate.
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Follow the instructions on http://www.percona.com/docs/wiki/release:start to set up your APT sources (you may have already done this), then do
apt-get source mysql-dfsg-5.0
to download the source package. Inside the source package, the configure options are in the file debian/rules. Edit that, and then rebuild (with dpkg-buildpackage for example).
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Thanks, and I found the information output by ./configure --help is useful. – AntiGameZ Jan 14 '10 at 7:54
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I am currently running Xampp for a dev server on Windows 7. It has Apache, PHP,MySQL and some other stuff all in one simple exe package for windows and works great. My version currently has PHP version 5.2.9 and the new version of Xampp comes with PHP 5.3.1
I would like to use the newer PHP but I do not want to update everything else. So how would I install the newest version of PHP in windows?
Also on the Xampp page there is another extension download for Tomcat 6.0.20 I am not sure what Tomcat does can someone explain?
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PHP on Windows is essentially a couple of dll files, an ini file and an extension directory. You can have unlimited versions of PHP on your machine, what matters is which version your webserver (in your case with XAMPP, Apache) uses.
Firstly download the latest version of PHP from www.php.net, install it in, for instance, C:\Program Files\PHP.
In your Apache conf file (Something like C:\Program Files\XAMPP\Apache\Conf\httpd.conf) edit the following section so it suits your new PHP installation:
LoadModule php5_module "C:\Program Files\PHP\php5apache2.dll"
AddHandler application/x-httpd-php .php
# configure the path to php.ini
PHPIniDir "C:\Program Files\PHP\php.ini"
See the PHP installation docs for more.
Calling phpinfo() from a test script will also help you pinpoint any ini files that are in weird places (Windows directory, Apache Directory etc...)
Tomcat is an Apache extension for running Java, safe to assume you don't need it!
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I have a Dell Poweredge 840 and the moment it boots up it's fans are roaring full bore regardless of how little usage there is on it - idle speed is 100%. I am running windows server 2003 r2. The processor is a Intel(R) Celeron(R) D CPU 3.06GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 6 Stepping 5]. I have been digging through the documentation on power management, but this server doesn't seem to have any (aside from the monitor and the drives). Does Dell have some power manager app for stepping this model (I can't find one)? Can any of you give me any tips to save power on this thing?
I know business owners are not supposed to care about tree hugger things like power usage but I do. Thanks in advance
I messed around with powercfg and it appears that hard disk and processor throttle power management are not supported (only monitor turn off). Can this be? Forgive me but it seems like my windows 98 system had better power management than this. I am wondering if there is a consumer version bios that is available for this board - even a hacked version.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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If you are concerned about the fan speed (and noise) consider this. On my Poweredge 2500, the only way I've found to control the fan speed is to adjust the temperature thresholds. If the maximum temperature is too close to the current reading, the fan spins faster trying to cool it off. When you raise the maximum temperature, the fan relaxes. So check to see if your thresholds are set too low.
Of course, if your thresholds aren't set too low, then you have a separate issue regarding cooling.
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OK now that piques my interest. Where did you adjust that? My Bios has no power management section at all. – Praesagus Sep 4 '10 at 16:02
Marking this as the best answer since there really wasn't an answer for this one. – Praesagus Oct 4 '13 at 20:19
You may want to try updating the BIOS of the server. I have had multiple Dell products have a very similar issue and a BIOS update has fixed it.
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I thought I had done that, but double checked and ... doh, first rule in problem sloving make sure the drivers and bios are up to date. Unfartunately it does not seem to give me any more options either in bios or windows power settings. Any utilities you know of that might help? – Praesagus Sep 4 '10 at 16:01
At this point if you are not seeing any improvement you likely have some type of hardware issue. – Patrick Sep 5 '10 at 19:32
PE's really go full speed (and others servers too) when they boot, but they go down after the OS boot up or, in the case of a a open chassi, several minutes.
If the fans aren't going down at all, it may be sign of a deeper problem with the OS or even hardware. Unfortunately I am not used to windows servers so I can't answer on that.
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Assuming that the fan speed is directly related to the power consumption of the server as a whole is probably an incorrect assumption. That being said, most Dell servers I've worked with run the fans at full speed during post and reduce the speed once the post process has completed. They will increase in speed based on temperature and load. If the fans run at full speed constantly then you have a problem. If they don't then I think what you're seeing is normal.
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Good point correlating the fan speed to power consumption. And you are also right in that I exaggerated my fan speed. It does not run at the 100% "post" speed all the time but does maintain a constant roar - especially compared to all my other computers. Any suggestions about managing the power? Thanks – Praesagus Sep 4 '10 at 16:06
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I'm replacing a Windows Server 2003 based DNS server (for an office LAN) with a new Windows 2008 based server. The old DNS server used the internal IP address of our Netgear router as a forwarder, but this doesn't work with the Win 2008 server.
Is there another address I should be using instead of the router as the forwarder? Currently I've just copied in the DNS server addresses of our ISP from the router settings which seems to work, but I guess these could change any time.
Some forums suggest using / as forwarding servers - is this correct?
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Not that this answers your question but I personally wouldn't use my router as a forwarder and I wouldn't use my ISP as a forwarder either. If you're set on using forwarders my suggestion would be to use Google's public DNS servers, and
BTW, I've had no problem adding those two ip addresses as forwarders in W2K8 DNS.
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I'm using a forwarder as that's how the old DNS server was set up, and as I've never set one up before I was copying its configuration. Is there a better way to resolve external addresses if not using a forwarder of some kind? – Nick Oct 6 '10 at 13:38
You could just use the root hint servers, which are "installed" and "enabled" by default. Barring any funky configuration on your part, external name resolution should work out of the box with no need to configure forwarders or make any other modification to the DNS server. – joeqwerty Oct 6 '10 at 14:01
Ok, looks like I didn't test the out of the box configuration before I fixed / borked it. Will go back over what I've done, thanks. – Nick Oct 6 '10 at 14:33
Glad to help... – joeqwerty Oct 6 '10 at 15:09
Unborked! Just deleted all the forwarding server entires.. Thank you – Nick Oct 6 '10 at 16:02
How do you mean it doesn't work? Can you ping the router interface? what errors are you seeing? When you mean forwarder do you mean default gateway? what does your routing table look like?
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Doesn't work as ping/tracert cannot resolve external addresses. I can ping the router. The router is the default gateway on both old and new DNS servers. It is also set up as forwarder on the old DNS server - this works, which is why I tried adding it as forwarder on new DNS server (forwarder properties tab differ a lot between Win Server 2003 and 2008 though) – Nick Oct 6 '10 at 9:46
That is odd, are old and new servers in the same subnet, got the same mask/DG etc? have you disabled the 2008 firewall temporarily? – Chopper3 Oct 6 '10 at 9:55
Yes, same subnet/mask/DG. Disabling Firewall makes no difference. When I add the router IP as forwarder Win 2008 cannot resolve the FQDN which could be the issue (Win 2003 seems happy with just the IP) – Nick Oct 6 '10 at 10:01
Contact your ISP's techsupport and ask them for the IPs of the DNS servers they use. They will be fastest and closest to you.
Make sure they are accessible from the windows server behind the NAT first of course. and openDNS are known and working servers, but they might not be quote as responsive as the ones the ISP is using, simply because they are probably farther away
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as dynasny has suggested, you can also check your router's config and it will show you what public dns it is being assigned by your ISP, you can use those as forwarders, and ofcourse,, - HTH – rihatum Oct 6 '10 at 13:27
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I have a dedicated server and I am using the install wizard via WHM to install an SSL certificate.
I have the following keys:
• Certificate key
• RSA private key
• CA certificate
I paste these three elements into the wizard along with the domain, IP address and username but I get this error:
SSL install aborted due to error: Unable to save certificate key.
Certificate verification passed
Have I missed a step?
I have given it another go to make sure I am copying and pasting the info correctly and I am now getting the following error:
SSL install aborted due to error: Sorry, you must have a dedicated ip to use this feature for the user: username! If you are intending to install a shared certificate you must use the username "nobody" for security and bandwidth reporting reasons.
Even though I am using a dedicated IP address, I am getting this problem.
I thought I would also add that this SSL certificate has been installed on a shared hosting environment with my previous hostig provider. The account with them is still active, however the domain and its contents now reside on the dedicated server - could this cause problems?
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The installation was failing because I let WHM read the certificate and prefill the user details. The 'user' field needs to be nobody if the server you're installing on only has one IP address. Once I had set the user to be 'nobody', the certificate could then be installed.
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I have an internal intranet application as a exe file (win32, written in Delphi).
I regularly update it with new features and patches.
Many people are accessing the same exe (using it with remote desktop).
In Windows Server 2003 to replace the file I just needed to:
rename the old file, copy the new file.
This is not possible in 2008 anymore since because of same caching the new file doesn't work. It runs but then there are problems (probably linked to the way Delphi uses the exe resources). The only way is to close all the users sessions and replace the file.
May you suggest a method that works? Simple if possible? Is it possible to disable this caching? Or any other trick that allows me to replace a file (without changing the full path).
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Yes it is a duplicate but I was hoping for some other suggestion. By in win2003 i achieved the correct result, and it was saisfing for me. – user193655 May 10 '11 at 15:21
And now Windows is enforcing proper procedure for great justice. – Chris S May 10 '11 at 15:24
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As an alternative, you could create a new launcher that never changes. It will read which version of the executable to start, and start the updated version.
So if the end-user shortcuts point at filename.exe, then that is what you would name your launcher, the launcher might read the file filename.versions, then execute filename.version.exe.
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I did launcher and it works great, launcher simply reads from ini file the path of the exe to run so I use "oddfilenames" like "Application20130112_v1.exe" and I rule. I just need to write in the ini file the correct path. – user193655 Jan 9 '13 at 8:43
Schedule a maintenance window and replace the file when there are no users working with it. Just because Server 2003 allowed you to get away with doing something the wrong way, doesn't mean 2008 should.
The part where you mention this:
is the right way to go about it.
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I guess if you use UPX compressor, you'll be able to remove the executable. Once the .exe is decompressed on the ram.
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How can i force a user to save all his/her files to a specific folder on the machine?
Clients are using: XP, Vista, and 7
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One user, or every user in the domain, or every user in a mixture of domains, or only certain users? – EightBitTony May 14 '12 at 16:48
we dont have domain installed yet, only workgroup, it is going to be on every PC on the workgroup – Skystar3 May 14 '12 at 16:53
I don't know that there's a way to force them to save to a specific location, but there is a way with Active Directory and Group Policy to restrict them from saving to other locations. With AD and GP you can hide and/or restrict their access to the local drives and redirect their My Documents folder to a network share. – joeqwerty May 14 '12 at 18:05
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You can use folder redirection in Group Policy to set everyone's "My Documents" folder to a standard location (local folder or a network share).
Since most programs save to My Documents by default, this would cover most of your needs.
owever, it won't prevent a user from explicitly picking a different location. To deal with that, you should be limiting write permissions.
Are your users local Administrators? If so, shame on you. You'll need to cut that out. If they are regular users, by default they should be prohibited from writing to most "system wide" locations. Depending on how rigid you want to be, you may need to lock down further. You can set file permissions by right-clicking on a folder and going to Properties->Security. You can also script something with the cacls command.
You should probably try implementing folder redirection and log in as a standard user and see where you can/can't save files. Always test something like this before you implement it system wide.
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Here is how I would do it. In XP (Vista and 7 should be similar). Go to start, run, mmc. File, add/remove snap-in, under standalone tab click add, select computer management (local) click ok. Expend computer management to local groups and users, users. After you add a user you'll be able to click on properties and select each user home path and that by default will force to save things there. Hope this helps.
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you'll have to do to each individual PC. – George May 14 '12 at 18:01
and user as well. – George May 14 '12 at 18:28
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I am using Fedora 17 and am trying to access a remote machine (running Fedora 15) using its hostname which isn't working. The machine is right next to me on the same switch as my machine (so they are both on the same network with the same subnet and everything). When I was running Windows (7 32-bit) on my machine I could access the other machine no problem but now that I am running Fedora 17 that's not the case. Is there an additional daemon or something that I need to be using in order for this to work?
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closed as too localized by Michael Hampton, Magellan, Iain Nov 5 '12 at 9:02
Do you have dns set up on the fedora machine? – Decado Oct 14 '12 at 17:51
Both machines should be using the company's internal DNS servers but that is a good point. I will check to make sure this is the case when I am in there tomorrow. What you said made me realize that I need to check a few more things since I am no longer tied to their AD. – Aaron Oct 14 '12 at 18:02
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Some questions.
Can you resolve any external site from the F17 system.
If yes, then can you ping the F15 system by ip and then by hostname. Collect 5 iterations and pastebin please.
If it is working with ip but not with hostname, can you add the hostname and ip address of the F15 system into the /etc/hosts file and then try pinging. Please ensure the proper syntax is followed.
If still not pinging, I would rather see tcpdump. tcpdump -s0 -i ethX -w /tmp/tcpdump_hostname.pcap host
If still can't find anything, then I will compare with tcpdump with IP address ping working.
Obviously, I expect you have checked the interface configuration files first and they are working.
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I can resolve anything internally and externally by IP (including the F15 system). I'm going to check on a few things tomorrow when I have access to the machines since I just remembered I am no longer tied to the AD at work. If everything checks out I will get back to you. – Aaron Oct 14 '12 at 18:08
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This ended up being an internal specific issue. It had to do with the way our network at work was setup and how both of my Linux machines weren't on the domain. Everything has been resolved now!
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What exactly is the CPU Average field in VMM 2012 showing me?
I'm running Server 2008 R2 with VMM 2012. My server has 2x16 core CPUs installed.
An example virtual machine has 4 virtual processors, and shows 20% CPU usage. Is that:
• 20% of the entire system's available CPU power?
• 20% of 4 of the 32 core's CPU power?
• 20% of one core's CPU? (in which case it could go as high as 400%)
• Something else entirely?
How can I tell how much of the entire system's CPU power is being used (all 32 cores)?
Edit: Well, I can tell for sure it's not 20% of the entire system's CPU power - since the entire server's CPU averages add up to well over 100% right now.
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I can only answer this at a guess, but generally CPU usage reporting at a hypervisor is of its allocated resources. So if you have assigned 1 vCPU then it's 20% of that. (i.e. your 2nd option). Same with its RAM usage, it's only the % of allocated RAM, not the total system RAM. – Mark Henderson Nov 20 '12 at 3:40
On further investigation I think that it's on drugs. I did a test and loaded a VM with Prime95 to load up its entire CPU allocation. In the Hyper-V console I see 12% (which is the total allocation/total available), indicating that it's showing the total used out of the entire system. But SCVMM is showing 0%. So I don't know what to make of that... – Mark Henderson Nov 20 '12 at 4:05
I've asked another question to try and nut it out: serverfault.com/questions/450352/… – Mark Henderson Nov 20 '12 at 4:20
Very much agreed that vmm is on drugs...but I still want to know what it thinks it is reporting :) So if I open Hyper-V manager on the vm server, 100% on a 4 proc VM means 100% of the 4 assigned cores, correct? – Grant Nov 22 '12 at 0:37
This article seems relevant: blogs.technet.com/b/scvmm/archive/2010/04/07/… if you want to test if what it says is accurate – Grant Nov 22 '12 at 0:40
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For a Hyper-V guest, the VMM console shows CPU Average as the “%Guest Run Time” counter of “Hyper-V Hypervisor Virtual Processor(_Total)” counter set. This also relates to any limit in percent set on the Processor setting under settings for the Hyper-V guest.
E.g. If you have a guest with a 4 core CPU and 50% VM limit and the utilization as shown from inside the guest OS is 100%, the VMM console would show this as about 50%. However, if you look in the Hyper-V console it would show about 25% as the Hyper-V console relates to the host CPU usage (the host in this example would have 8 cores).
Source: How SCVMM Determines CPU Average Displayed in the Admin Console
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I am using Nagios Core with Nagiosgraph and had only enabled graphing for cpu usage for a while. This worked fine, but now i wanted to add some more services (for example memory usage). The new services are not working (no rrd data is generated). The Nagiosgraph site only says "no data available" and I get no error in apache log, nagiosgraph.log or nagiosgraph-cgi.log.
The new services are standard services (nsclient++ MEMUSE for example) and of course they are included in the map file. If I execute the checks manually, it shows also the perfdata.
I added the services by enabling the "graphed-service" use. Did I miss something?
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The Problem was a corrupt map file. It did not work for all services for some reason (even though there were mappings for them). However, replacing it and switching the server language to english worked. I had to do that, because perfdata returned values with commas like 5,32 instead of 5.32, so there was a perl error for conversion to float.
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I'm trying to compile PHP 5.3.21 on Ubuntu 11.04. I keep getting the following error:
I searched for the location for libXpm.a and libXpm.so and both of them are in /usr/lib. So I then update --with-xpm-dir to --with-xpm-dir=/usr/lib in my configure script, but I still get the same error. I've also installed libxpm-dev and a host of other dependent libraries, but still I get the error.
Below is the entire configure script:
I'd really appreciate some assistance.
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I was able to solve this by changing the settings of the specific configure options below:
This ensured that /usr/lib would one of the main locations that would be searched for required files.
It worked ok after this.
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it worked on CentOS 6.2 as well – user176967 Jun 7 '13 at 11:31
this doesn't always work, many times you need to symlink, more here: bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=65016 – Evan Jan 7 '14 at 9:59
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How can I open ports tcp 5222 and udp 5222 on a centos 5 box running with cpanel,
I've tried doing it through iptables then when i've restarted the tables it freezes and timesout when i reload it seems that the iptables have reverted to what they were at before.
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closed as off-topic by Jenny D, Sven Apr 15 at 8:27
Admin panels are off topic (see this for some reasons). The community has decided that we want to close both old and new questions when such an admin panel is relevant (link 1, link 2). – Sven Apr 15 at 8:27
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You need to check what firewall you're running, on cPanel servers, it's common that apf or csf are running, type "csf" or "apf", if you get an answer for apf, I can't help you, never used it.
If you get something like csf help, edit /etc/csf/csf.conf and modify the TCP_IN and TCP_OUT variables and then issue "service csf restart".
If you get nothing for all those, you might just have a saved set, check out and see if there are any rules at /etc/sysconfig/iptables
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hi, this is great, turns out i have csf and that worked within seconds of me changing it... thanks for the fast response – Neil Ashley Hickman Aug 4 '09 at 20:01
Sounds like your method of connecting is getting cut off. How are you going about it? If it's by SSH, then you'll also need to open tcp/22. VNC uses 5900 for display :0, 5901 for display :1, etc. I'd also allow anything from interface "lo"; this ensures that the localhost can talk to itself, thereby enabling things like X and the font server, assuming you're using the GUI. It will also enable mysql, smtp, and other services. I haven't used postgresql, but I'm fairly sure it will use the same method.
The method of updating iptables you're using seems sound, otherwise.
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I am running a website on an Amazon ec2 instance running the default Debian linux. I set up a cronjob to copy the site files, take a database imprint, and zip them up. I want to keep the file archives in the same directory as the bash script itself, which is located somewhat deep within /var/www/[a new directory]/[a new directory]/[etc]/. I created a mysql user that can only read and dump the database, but cannot write to it.
The script is as follows
CURRDATE=$(date +"%Y-%m-%d__%T_%p")
# I first copy the files so I can stick a database imprint in the same directory
cp -r "$SITEPATH/" "$CURRPATH/"
mv "$CURRPATH/html" "$TEMPDIR"
mysqldump -u "$MYSQLUSER" -p"$MYSQLPASS" "$MYSQLDB" > "$TEMPDIR/BackupDB_$CURRDATE.sql"
rm -rf "$TEMPDIR"
I set this with crontab, and it works perfectly, except for one problem - the archive ends up in the ~/root folder (I set up the crontab with the root user).
Is there a way to get this archive to spit out in the same directory as the script, the $CURRPATH variable?
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CURRPATH is not the directory the script is in, it's the working directory that the script inherited from its parent process; for cron jobs, this is the home directory of the account it's running under (i.e. ~root). If you want the directory the script is in, use CURRPATH=$(dirname "$BASH_SOURCE") instead.
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Thank you very much!! – Nicholas Finch Jul 5 '13 at 6:12
@NicholasFinch if this works, don't forget to accept the answer, and perhaps vote it up if you feel it warrants it. – EightBitTony Jul 5 '13 at 6:27
I do not have enough of a reputation to vote it up - would otherwise do so gladly :) – Nicholas Finch Jul 5 '13 at 8:34
Also - please excuse my obvious ignorance on this matter - what do I press to 'accept' the answer? – Nicholas Finch Jul 5 '13 at 8:39
@NicholasFinch: You should see a check mark next to the answer. Click on it to mark the answer as accepted. Also, see BashFAQ/028 regarding script locations. – Dennis Williamson Jul 5 '13 at 11:52
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I have a script running under a non-root user which, under certain conditions, should restart apache httpd.
What would be the simplest way for me to allow the user to do that?
I'm using Ubuntu Server 8.04 LTS.
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Short answer:
Using visudo, add the following to your sudoers file, replacing username with the proper username:
username ALL = /etc/init.d/apache2
If you want to not have to type in a password before you do this, use the following:
username ALL = NOPASSWD: /etc/init.d/apache2
After this, the 'username' user can execute sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start (or stop, restart,etc)
Long answer: You'll likely want to setup a separate user for this if you haven't already, and then configure the /etc/sudoers file to allow a user or group to execute the command you want.
For example, to allow the user 'ben' to execute all commands as root prompting for a password, you would do the following:
ben ALL= ALL
To allow 'ben' to execute only one command (like say, rm), you would do the following:
ben ALL= /bin/rm
If you are running a script as a user and don't want to prompt for a password, you'll want to use the 'NOPASSWD' option like so:
ben ALL=NOPASSWD: /bin/commandname options
You can do the same thing for groups by prefixing group names with a percentage sign, like so:
%supportstaff ALL= NOPASSWD: /bin/commandname
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Short answer: sudo.
The call would look similar to the following: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
Easiest is to use visudo to set up the /etc/sudoers file. See man sudoers and man visudo for details.
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OP said about doing it through a script- the script won't be able to enter a password so this answer won't make any sense. – Matt Fletcher Dec 12 '14 at 12:57
Same applies to the accepted answer. – Zayne S Halsall Dec 13 '14 at 13:48
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I have a server running Windows Server 2003. Nobody uses the internet from this machine. If I go to C:\Documents and Settings\(user)\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files and right-click for Properties, it tells me there is over 4GB in 24 files and 6 folders. The only files shown are 2 cookies created in 2007. I've set it to "Show hidden files and folders" and turned off "Hide protected operating system files". My specific questions:
1. How do I see what's out there?
2. How do I find out where it's coming from? I don't think it's Explorer.
3. How do I periodically clean out the folder without doing it by hand?
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Not 100% certain about the first two questions, but there are lots of options for #3. I personally use CCleaner to scrub the cruft from the family PC automatically once a day. If you run it by hand, it should give you list of files found, depending on the function you're using.
For #1 you could also try running "dir /s" while standing in that "Temporary Internet Files" from the command prompt.
For #2 it could be from any software that does automatic updates (such as Adobe Acrobat viewer, Sun's Java, and MS's own Security Essentials and Automatic Updates). This is just a guess, as I'm not 100% certain where these apps store their downloads.
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Thanks, dir /s is showing everything. The large files are created by a program I wrote that runs on the server - it will probably lead to another question on Stackoverflow. – Mark Ransom Dec 3 '09 at 17:48
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Comment: Re:Amazing (Score 1) 207
IT WOULD BE AWESOME if some CS got into lower education.
It would, although they'd probably taint it in peoples' minds, teaching it as a part of a mathematics course, or something. Looking back, a lot of my high school geometry course was similar to some of my theoretical computer science classes.
It is maddening the damage Slashdot has done to Computer Science
Slashdot is a minor player. The smallest TV news networks have larger audiences. Mainstream media and industry have done more to add a second definition (the one that you disagree with) to "Computer Science", in the minds of the public. Human language in general is stuck in a kind of out-of-control feedback loop, and that's one reason that we end up with islands of population-specific argot. It's useful for those groups to have more concrete definitions of words to use among themselves. I suppose that "Computer Science" acts as a kind of shibboleth; if you take it as a synonym for "Information Technology" instead of "The science of computability, computation, and information theory", then obviously you aren't a computer scientist.
Comment: Re:You know what would REALLY motivate kids? (Score 1) 207
Why would a CS grad want to be a software developer?
Because it pays better than academia.
They should have studied software development and programming.
Programming is useful as a tool for studying computer science, so it tends to be something that CS grads learn, to varying degrees. The software development process can be learned on the job. Companies look for CS degrees to mean "software developer"; I don't see many job postings around me for someone who has a SW Dev degree or certification. It's less of a fight to just major in CS and learn to apply the theory to practical engineering problems than it would be to convince a company that they don't actually want a CS grad.
That's like an MD hoping to get a job as a medical tech
More like a biology major trying to get a job as a doctor, IMO.
Their ideal employment will have little to do with coding.
I know two flavors of CS grads: Those who want to get jobs as academics and do teaching or research, and those looking to bend the purpose of a CS degree to get a programming job. In theory, it's a terrible fit. In practice, it's quite workable. After all, if one has the capacity to work out a clean mathematical proof, then one also has the capacity to build a clean piece of software.
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I've waited minutes for ART to do its thing on a singular package
I've never seen that, but I can't say that it's unbelievable. On my device though (admittedly, a much faster phone), it's always taken under five-ten minutes to ART-compile about 150 apps, and the idea that invoking each of those 150 apps one at a time would cause a similar amount of JIT compilation has always sounded reasonable to me. Since it seems to work in my case, I haven't really looked into it.
Also, you sound a lot like the folks responding to those who question memory management on Android: "It's taken care of automatically," they say. "You can't do anything to improve it," they further proclaim.
I've seen too many memory leaks to try to claim that it couldn't be improved upon.
Can we compute the increased carbon emissions of this, including wear-and-tear due to increased battery aging and decreased lifespan (which more and more means death to the entire device)? Man-hours wasted staring, waiting for devices to compile their own apps?
It's better than JIT on Dalvik, which all non-Lollipop versions of Android would be using. You're complaining about compiling once, when the program is first installed. How about compiling once per time that you run the program? ART provides a net benefit over that scheme.
Comment: Re:Windows? (Score 1) 108
Ah, yes. The OS that notifies my wife to reboot her phone daily, to avoid memory leak problems that haven't been fixed since she bought it. The OS that requires her to convince herself that "No, I'm not as interested in that app as I thought", because it's not available on the app store and has no alternatives available. The OS that goes into reboot loops if her phone goes out of range of a cell tower. Yes, I've used Windows Phone. If it worked properly more often and had a better app ecosystem, it would be a perfectly useable phone OS.
Comment: Re:Here's why it's better than an S6 or iPhone 6 (Score 1) 108
The version of mathematics where there's a $200 version of the phone, and they specified a $700 phone as the comparison. At least some versions of the Galaxy S6 are $700 when purchased off-contract, and the iPhone 6 seems to be around that price too.
Comment: Re:Quite the Opposite (Score 1) 270
by khellendros1984 (#49754161) Attached to: Ask Slashdot: Career Advice For an Aging Perl Developer?
If every manager needs to know the job of the underlings, how in the world would they ever get the time to get any management done.
My manager has told me "Software development isn't rocket science. I don't see why investigating a bug takes so long." She also hasn't done any development work herself, despite having a computer science degree. She went almost directly into a PM role out of college and doesn't have a frame of reference to understand her employees' work. She hasn't ever been able to understand what her employees are doing, what's reasonable in terms of timeframe for a feature or bug to be completed, doesn't know the product well enough to even know which part of it her team members are working on, etc.
In contrast, my previous manager was promoted up from the ranks of the developers. She was amazing to work for, because she always made her team's jobs easier, and understood what we were working on (in a broad sense, not down to the deep details, of course).
Knowing their jobs isn't the same thing as taking the time to do their jobs. A manager should manage, but they should know what their decisions mean to their team members. To my current manager, a flurry of e-mails means work is being done, and she expects a constant flow of e-mail to go around her team. I've been chastised in her office several times for not communicating enough while working through bugs on a piece of code that no one else on the team has experience with. I explain to her which bugs I've fixed, which I am still working on, and which features I've implemented. Doesn't matter. No e-mail means no work, because that's how her world works: E-mail and meetings mean decisions are being made and work is being done. No e-mail or meetings == black hole where nothing is happening.
If I needed a manager that knew my job better than me in order not to feel bossed around by a dummy, I'd be looking in vain forever.
Ditto. I know my work better than my manager. That's basically by definition, except for in a very upside-down project. But if I say "I've got the fixes for these 3 bugs in, and I'm working on these 4 others", and I get a reply like "OK, but what are you actually doing?", you'll have a hard time convincing me that I'm not working for an idiot. They don't know my job, don't understand what their employees are doing (even in abstract), and don't belong in a management position over a team until they understand what it is that they're managing.
Comment: Uh oh (Score 2) 270
by khellendros1984 (#49748325) Attached to: Ask Slashdot: Career Advice For an Aging Perl Developer?
If you're over 40 and you don't know how to answer that question based on past experience, I think you're in trouble. Picking up new languages, frameworks, APIs, and what have you are just par for the course. Those things have been a constant in every development job I've had. If a language is related to something that I already know, then within a few weeks, I may be writing some Perl-ish looking Python and becoming more comfortable using constructs that don't appear in Perl very quickly.
Comment: Re:Duration of disconnection (Score 1) 198
by khellendros1984 (#49678355) Attached to: What Might Have Happened To Windows Media Center
Thin of the resources an offline Google Now or Siri would need.
Parts of that wouldn't be feasible (notes coming in about sports scores, news items, what have you), but keeping a local database to correlate locations, time, and all that? Sure, you could do that. Ditto with the voice recognition, especially if it's limited to a certain set of vocabulary that's useful for on-device management of your alarms/calendar/contacts.
but you wouldn't expect to navigate offline, with live traffic data, without a net connection.
I wouldn't? That's what I've got a Garmin with radio traffic updates for. I bought it before I had a smartphone, and it still works as well as it did when I got it.
Or you couldn't cast your IDE from your tablet to your PC without a net connection.
Oh? I can't host an AP from my laptop, run a VNC or RDP server there, and connect from my tablet? Or run VNC on my tablet and access it from the laptop? I'm not sure what you're claiming, because the most direct interpretations of your post have counterexamples.
Comment: Re:Offline functionality (Score 1) 198
by khellendros1984 (#49678303) Attached to: What Might Have Happened To Windows Media Center
Well, useless for anything that needs internet, sure. I can't check email or browse a webpage, but I can program, write, play games, listen to music, watch movies, etc. I mean, it's not like you're using Steam for all your games, Spotify for your music, and Netflix for your video, right?
Comment: Alternatives (Score 1) 47
by khellendros1984 (#49674725) Attached to: Open Source C++ ClanLib SDK Refreshed For 2015
SDL and SFML are both pretty cool and have large development communities. I haven't used Allegro or Clanlib, but Clanlib's features seem especially close to SFML's (based on examining the API). Allegro has been around for over 20 years. SDL for 17, Clanlib for 16, SFML for just about half of that.
It raises a question in my mind: If Clanlib had been out for that long in 2007, providing a C++ game programming library and being well-known enough to be included in at least one book, then why was there a perceived need for SFML? Was it just a marketing/popularizing failure on the part of clanlib's developers, or was there some technical shortcoming in Clanlib at that time? If the latter, has the shortcoming been corrected? In short, why exactly should we be excited about a new release of Clanlib?
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I am able to both read and write cell values using Apache POI. When reading, I evaluate first so that I get the correct values. My use case requires that I read a sheet, replace a few values in the sheet, then read another portion of the sheet that contains cells that depend on the cells I just replaced.
A1 contains a formula: =B1+C1. B1 contains 2 and C1 contains 3. When I evaluate A1 I correctly get 5. Now, if I replace, with POI api, C1 with 10, I would expect that when I read A1 again I would see 12. I don't... A1 now evaluates to null.
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It seems like your question is answered in Apache POI documentation (under 'Recalculation of Formulas')
Basically it suggests something like:
Workbook wb = ...
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It looks like my issue was not that at all. When replacing the cells, I was using sheet.creatRow(r) versus sheet.getRow(r). – andyczerwonka Nov 16 '12 at 22:44
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I am getting this error whilst trying to send emails through gmail -
Net::SMTPAuthenticationError (530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first. pw17sm4922458lab.5
app/controllers/contact_controller.rb:11:in `create'
I have tried loads of different things but to no avail, below is my settings from production.rb
# Change mail delvery to either :smtp, :sendmail, :file, :test
config.action_mailer.delivery_method = :smtp
config.action_mailer.smtp_settings = {
address: "smtp.gmail.com",
port: 587,
domain: "bizmodev.com",
authentication: "plain",
enable_starttls_auto: true,
user_name: '******.*****@gmail.com',
password: '********'
# Specify what domain to use for mailer URLs
config.action_mailer.default_url_options = {host: "bizmo.co.uk"}
Any help on this matter would really be appreciated.
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Does this help - productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/apps/Sm16T9DPJ5Q – PinnyM Nov 20 '12 at 14:59
Sorry PinnyM, didnt help this time ;) – Robbie Done Nov 20 '12 at 15:19
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OK fixed it, basically I installed sendmail on my VPS and then restarted Apache and it now works -
Ubuntu Sendmail command line install
apt-get install sendmail
Hope this may help someone in the future...
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you can enable starttls like this:
config.action_mailer.smtp_settings = {
:enable_starttls_auto => true}
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I have tried that but is still bombed out? – Robbie Done Nov 20 '12 at 15:12
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I have a 3-tuple data set (X,Y,Z points) that I want to plot using R.
I want to create a surface plot from the data, and superimpose a contour map on the surface plot, so as to create the impression of the contour map being the "shadow" or projection from the surface plot. The contour map is to appear below the surface plot.
My data set looks somewhat like this:
Axis | Data Type
X | Date value
Y | Float value
Z | Float value
How can I achieve this?
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I just saw that you pointed out one of your dimensions is a date. In that case, have a look at Jeff Ryan's chartSeries3d which is designed to chart 3-dimensional time series. Here he shows the yield curve over time:
chartSeries example
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As I understand it, you want a countour map to be the projection on the plane beneath the 3D surface plot. I don't believe that there's an easy way to do this other than creating the two plots and then combining them. You may find the spatial view helpful for this.
There are two primary R packages for 3D plotting: rgl (or you can use the related misc3d package) and scatterplot3d.
The rgl package uses OpenGL to create interactive 3D plots (read more on the rgl website). Here's an example using the surface3d function:
z <- 2 * volcano # Exaggerate the relief
x <- 10 * (1:nrow(z)) # 10 meter spacing (S to N)
y <- 10 * (1:ncol(z)) # 10 meter spacing (E to W)
zlim <- range(z)
zlen <- zlim[2] - zlim[1] + 1
colorlut <- terrain.colors(zlen,alpha=0) # height color lookup table
col <- colorlut[ z-zlim[1]+1 ] # assign colors to heights for each point
rgl.surface(x, y, z, color=col, alpha=0.75, back="lines")
The alpha parameter makes this surface partly transparent. Now you have an interactive 3D plot of a surface and you want to create a countour map underneath. rgl allows you add more plots to an existing image:
colorlut <- heat.colors(zlen,alpha=1) # use different colors for the contour map
rgl.surface(x, y, matrix(1, nrow(z), ncol(z)),color=col, back="fill")
In this surface I set the heights=1 so that we have a plane underneath the other surface. This ends up looking like this, and can be rotated with a mouse:
3D surface plot
scatterplot3d is a little more like other plotting functions in R (read the vignette). Here's a simple example:
temp <- seq(-pi, 0, length = 50)
x <- c(rep(1, 50) %*% t(cos(temp)))
y <- c(cos(temp) %*% t(sin(temp)))
z <- c(sin(temp) %*% t(sin(temp)))
scatterplot3d(x, y, z, highlight.3d=TRUE,
col.axis="blue", col.grid="lightblue",
main="scatterplot3d - 2", pch=20)
In this case, you will need to overlay the images. The R-Wiki has a nice post on creating a tanslucent background image.
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Thanks very much Shane. I think this is a very good starting point. Incidentally, you may have noticed that one of the axis is chronological (i.e. date). Do I need to do any manipulation before attempting to plot, or will R (or indeed the rgl package), handle the dates correctly? – Stick it to THE MAN Dec 13 '09 at 17:44
Hi Shane, thank you very much for your help. You have given me sufficient ammunition to get stsrated with. If I encounter more specific problems, I will be back here with a more specific question. I will mark your answer as accepted. – Stick it to THE MAN Dec 14 '09 at 11:13
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Say, I have this in one of the controllers:
def show
case current_user.role
when 'manager'
render :text => 'Manager view!'
when 'admin'
render :text => 'Admin view!'
The thing is, that instead of 'render', of course, there's a bunch of code and it all stops look pretty very fast. Also, I have some other actions in my controller, which have to perform differently for each of the user roles. What's the best way to refactor it without having to write some sorts of 'ifs' and 'cases' in the action's body? I'd like to have 2 files - one for each of the user roles; or at least two different actions.
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if the 2 variations are significantly different and must be invoked from the same controller, you could use an around_filter and dispatch the controller.action_name to one of 2 classes that inherit from the same base.
if the 2 variations aren't so different that they require forking, ifs should be fine...
for the dispatching, it could be just a generic class that inherits from a base class. you can have a switch in your filter that creates the right object based on the role, then finally send(“#{action}”) on the object. i would only do that if the variations are so different that they merit 2 derived classes.
now aside from generic classes, you could also use the handy Components w/the render_component method. in most cases the overhead of dispatching to a component controller would be rather negligible. (this is kind of like a server-side transfer (Server.Transfer) in .net.)
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Could you specify the dispatching and inheritance part? What would it look like in this case? I'm not sure. – snitko Dec 25 '09 at 3:48
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I'm planning to develop a webservice, and I like to try the RESTful architecture. The issue is that I don't know if the service is adequate for it, or it is better to use SOAP.
The service is about downloading some data from the server to a device on the local computer. The data will be split into chunks. The service will be run with an ad-hoc client at the local machine that will manage the device the file is gonna be stored in.
I was thinking on having something like:
/files/{id} --> will inform about the details of the file
/files--> list all the files
The problem is for the action. In rest only GET, POST and (PUT DELETE) are defined. But I want to have something like download. My idea, although not fully restful is to create:
/files/{id}/download This will return something like
{ "chunk" : "base64 string with chunk data"
"next" : "http://XXX/file/id/download?chunk=1
When next is empty the whole set of chunks would be downloaded.
What do you think? Is it ok to do it this way or would it be better the traditional way using SOAP and defining functions like getFiles(), getFileChunk(chunkNo, file)?
Any comment is really appreciated.
See you
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As John already mentioned you might want to separate between your file resources and the file resource metadata (any information about your file). Additionally a more RESTful way to access your chunks could look like this:
"complete" : false,
"chunks": [
Basically, here, you return a list of RESTFUL URIs to all your file chunks and the information if all chunks of the file are already complete. I don't see that SOAP might have any advantage there since you would define the same methods (getFile and getChunks) that are already covered by the REST verb GET.
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Thanks all of you for your answers. @Daff idea was the initial one I had. Could you further explain the 'complete' tag? The issue is I might have not described completely the idea of the service. The thing is I need to send back to the server the result from loading the data into the device. Then the server will check if an error has occured and return the next chunk or an error indicating the client should stop sending data to the device and close connection to device. Hope you can still help me out. I like the idea under rest but still have some doubts on what can be implemented using it. – jlanza Jan 21 '10 at 7:53
Hm I'm not sure if I exactly get what you want to do. But Kevin may be right that this is what the HTTP range headers are for and if the server finds an error it will return one of the HTTP error codes. Therefore you should check if the client can package it's information about a successful processing into the request header or (if that doesn't work) as a URI parameter of the next chunk, too. – Daff Jan 21 '10 at 11:34
The thing is the device only accept chunks and the server needs to authenticate that a chunk has been correctly uploaded in the device. In this sense, upon sending the data to the device, the response from the device has to be sent to the server who will check if the data is correct or not (there are some cryptographic issues in the middle). – jlanza Jan 21 '10 at 15:06
So the device would send more information back to the server in a request than just a "Received and processed chunk #123" or "Error processing chunk #123" (which I guess would work with the If-Range header in the request, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_header )? – Daff Jan 21 '10 at 17:30
That's it. The device response would be a value that the server needs to decript in order to verify the data has been properly loaded. If it has been properly loaded it will send the next chunk and if not it will terminate. Thanks very much for your help. I think we are converging and your experience will help a lot. Imagine the device is a attached to a serial port and the server is sending the data that the client has to sent to the serial port. Then the answer will be transmitted back to the server, checked and in case correct send the next command. This is more or less the idea. – jlanza Jan 21 '10 at 18:33
If using REST, you don't need to define your own "chunking" protocol as the HTTP headers Content-Length, Content-Range and Transfer-Encoding are all used for sending chunked data.
See the RFC for HTTP header fields
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It sounds like you really have two different resources: file-metadatas and files. What about something like:
/file/{id} // GET: Retrieve this file's data.
/file-metadata/{id} // GET: Metadata about a particular file. Contains link to file:
// {
// ...
// data: "http://.../file/156", // Where to find file's data.
// }
/file-metadata // GET: List metadata for all files.
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Pony references are in several places:
Is there a cultural reference that I am missing? What is the deal with ponies?
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It's amazing that this question is still not closed, while other useful questions with a dozens of upvotes are considered off-topic. – totymedli Oct 15 '13 at 12:35
I wonder why it isn't protected yet. – Karoly Horvath Mar 21 '14 at 21:18
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See also Bryan Veloso's post about the pony mascot image.
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this link is broken – Necronet Sep 14 '11 at 23:12
thanks for the catch, it's fixed now. – keturn Sep 16 '11 at 18:21
When you start listing what you want, "I want a fast HTTP parser", "I want ORM that just works", "I want higher order functions", the idea is that while you're wishing for things, you might as well wish for a pony too. This is probably a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip from "Someone under the bed is drooling", in which Susie Derkins says that as long as she's dreaming, she might as well wish for a pony.
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Plus it's cute. – wisty Jan 22 '10 at 6:33
Actually it's grossly kitsch... – cfisher Jan 22 '10 at 11:12
Of course it's kitsch. Thats the whole point. Python is such a serious language and Django such a serious framework that serious web developers can take themselves serious enough to adopt ponies, pink, rainbows, glitter and love to represent their seriousness. It's AWESOME(tm). – pluma Jan 23 '10 at 14:27
@wisty: Don't add [not-programming-related] tags. meta.stackexchange.com/questions/43879/… – Roger Pate Mar 30 '10 at 20:16
Its a Django unofficial mascot. See this blog post for an explanation.
Python generally uses Monty Python references (and sometimes snake references, for the misguided).
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I think that, being Monty Python fans, we should better ask for a shrubbery, one that look nice. And not too expensive, also. – Khelben Jan 22 '10 at 7:46
.................... NI! – Stefano Borini Jan 24 '10 at 4:25
Look at what the pony does!
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RKM gives a bit of explanation here: djangocon.blip.tv/file/3043562 – Skylar Saveland Jan 22 '10 at 16:50
ponysex is definitely NOT safe for work anymore... the domain owner must have changed. – Danilo Bargen Mar 13 '13 at 19:07
It's the Django mascot.
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I'd like to find a simple, non-trivial Java project that is expressed in terms of Ant + Ivy, Maven, Gant, and Gradle. I'm not interested in each tool's varied sample demos.
Where can I find such an example, for reference?
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I couldn't find one, so I'm working on such an example. The project is hosted here on GitHub, and is freely available without an account.
The first 'simple' example uses a Java POJO, a Hibernate mapping file, and an integration test. It is expressed in Ant, Ant + Ivy, Maven, Gant, and Gradle. Though modest, the integration test passes in each case.
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Thank you for the effort. If I may comment (and please let me know if there's a better forum), but the Gradle one doesn't look like Gradle. Is there a reason you're not using the java plugin for Gradle, and defining dependencies? It just feels like an Ant script. – Mikezx6r Feb 17 '10 at 16:26
re: forum. If you have an account on GitHub, you can probably message me or possibly open an issue. If not, here is fine with me. I agree that the current example isn't done in a way that is idiomatic to Gradle. It is a work in progress. I hope to update the site soon with a couple of different styles of Gradle. thanks for the note – Michael Easter Feb 17 '10 at 17:38
FWIW, there is a new Gradle example that uses the Java plugin. I encourage readers to file further issues on GitHub or send me an email (see my blog for contact info). Feedback is welcome. – Michael Easter Feb 22 '10 at 10:01
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I'm trying to use Jeditable as an inline editing solution.
The default behavior (click on the element to edit it) works quite well, but I would like to activate an element by clicking on another element.
For example clicking on a.activateEdit will activate the next div.edit (obviously should be done using jQuery selectors).
I've looked into Jeditable docs for this, but couldn't find the right syntax
FYI, the default Jeditable syntax is something along the lines of:
$(document).ready(function() {
*Edit: found a better solution *
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I know your question was asked a while back but I am currently trying to implement something very similar. I have it working with the click of a link, but is there a way to remove the click event of the element you wish to edit? In other words only make the editable element, editable from the link and not when you click it specifically? Thanks. – Chris Mitchell May 18 '11 at 20:50
You can try unbind() to remove the click event binding for that object. – yoavf May 19 '11 at 8:19
Sorry but can you provide some code? I am pretty new to this. Would the unbind() go within the .editable(url,{});? – Chris Mitchell May 19 '11 at 13:42
Thanks but I have figured a work around. I have kept the ability to edit the element by clicking it or the edit link. Thanks for you help. – Chris Mitchell May 19 '11 at 15:49
+1 for your better solution – Richard Simpson Aug 21 '14 at 13:38
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Above code is not quite correct either. It triggers click event on ALL Jeditable instances.
There are many ways to do it and it all depends on your HTML, but for example if you have following HTML:
<div class="edit" id="unique_id">Editable text</div>
<a href="#" class="edit_trigger">Edit me!!</a>
Then you can use following JavaScript:
/* Bind Jeditable instances to "edit" event. */
$(".edit").editable("http://www.example.com/save.php", {
event : "edit"
/* Find and trigger "edit" event on correct Jeditable instance. */
$(".edit_trigger").bind("click", function() {
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It's worth noting that in some contexts, $(this).prev() might not necessarily be the element you actually want to set the editable mode on. (In this example, though, it is.) It's probably more durable to select $("#unique_id") or $(".edit[id='unique_id']") to ensure you're editing the right element. – pjmorse Nov 8 '12 at 19:02
That is great though. I just used trigger('click') so I didn't have to set a special trigger and i had something other functions set to kick off on click as well. But this was exactly what i needed. – Jake Dec 18 '12 at 5:41
@Mika, how do I edit multiple fields using Jeditable plugin, just found my self in a situation where I need to edit multiple field and validate against each other. – Sam Samson Dec 28 '12 at 7:42
You can place this code in click function of another element. example:
<a class="clickme">Click me to edit</a>
<div class="edit">Edit Me!</div>
$(document).ready(function() {
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Ok, Ata's answer didn't quite work but it did set me on the right path:
$(document).ready(function() {
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I've combined the powers of the previous two responses to target the next editable element like so:
/* Find and trigger "edit" event on next Jeditable instance. */ $(".edit_trigger").livequery( 'click', function() { $(this).next().click(); });
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Any suggestions?
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Thank you for posting this question. I've been looking for info like this for months. – jay_t55 Aug 24 '09 at 5:54
Thanks! Most of the answers are very generic in Google's top hits. I added insite:stackoverflow.com and viola! I <3 SO! – Tejaswi Yerukalapudi Dec 10 '10 at 22:16
Don't forget forums.osdever.net – Brenden Aug 24 '11 at 19:04
Why are these type of good general purpose questions always closed on SO ? – ps06756 Sep 9 '14 at 22:46
This question has 370 upvotes, has been upvoted 422 times and has been around since StackOverflow was first launched. The community seems to have liked it, but for some reason a handful of people have to ruin it for everyone. THIS is why I am starting to really dislike S.O. – Giovanni Galbo Sep 15 '14 at 1:50
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The link that appears to be most promising is down, so you'll need to poke through the http://www.nondot.org/sabre/os/articles">Archive.org version to read it.
Good luck!
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hey sir, is COSMOS is good tool to develop operating system ? – Vikas Verma Jan 15 at 15:31
@VikasVerma I've not used it, so I don't know. – Adam Davis Jan 15 at 15:38
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I've got the latest Tanenbaum book but the minix3 source code looks pretty damn huge! I have a similar goal like the OP, while I don't want to build a kernel from scratch I really want to understand how a kernel works and what it does. Will following the Tanenbaum book and minix3 enough to make changes to minix3 help eventually me to contribute to the linux kernel? – gideon Oct 16 '13 at 6:45
As someone who has written a real-time multi-tasking operating system from scratch...
keyboard debounce routine, keyboard driver, disk driver, video driver, file system, and finally a boot-loader - and that's just to launch it for the first time with nothing to do!
... I cannot emphasize enough how important it is to get familiar with the hardware! This is especially so if you really want to do it all yourself instead of just picking up a primitive system someone else has already laid out for you. For example, contact Intel and ask them for a CPU card for your type of CPU! This will lay it out for you - the "pin-outs", interrupts, opcodes, you name it!
Remember the hardware makes it all possible. Study the hardware. You won't regret it.
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Write a microcontroller OS. I recommend an x86 based microcontroller. A modern OS is just huge. Learn the basics first.
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any ideas where to begin with this one? i'm very interested? what kit to buy..books to start you off etc – Julio Oct 29 '10 at 15:52
@Uncle: I've not encountered a top-notch embedded systems book to date. Either they are too high-level and assume an OS, or they are geared to an electrical engineer and ignore the code. As for kits, a google finds a "bifferos.bizhat.com/";. There are also ARM kits out there. I don't like harvard architectures personally, so I am uninterested in arduino, but it is the most popular. For more exotic work, the XC-1A is nice too. – Paul Nathan Oct 29 '10 at 22:34
@Paul would appreciate if you could expand on your answer. I looked into AVR and Arduino, but recently seen .NET micro. I'm too much of a higher abstraction LOB guy but I want to start walking down the stack. Where do you recommend starting off? – gideon Mar 28 '11 at 19:27
@giddy: The AVRs are the current fad. They are small and cheap, but I don't really like the architecture. I would recommend getting an ARM dev kit (est cost ~100). They are popular in commercial applications. – Paul Nathan Mar 31 '11 at 14:56
@Paul thanks! Not heard much about ARM. What about .net micro? I'm a little worried about burning something. Most kits will come with some kind of instructions right? thanks again. – gideon Mar 31 '11 at 15:33
I wish there was one place to get all of the info about developing your own OS. The closest to come to that is OS Dev Wiki and Forums. They offer a ton of good information regarding the setup, development, and device hardware information.
Also there are some great tutorials at BoneFide, I've used the getting started tutorial by Bran, and am now looking at a more recent one based on his called Roll your own toy UNIX-clone OS.
I second checking out: "Operating Systems : Design and Implementation"
And if you want to develop on Windows, check out jolson's blog post.
Edit: For development on windows using Visual Studio, check out BrokenThorn's guide or OSDev's wiki.
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you also might want to take a look at SharpOS which is an operating system that they're writing in c#.
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There are good resources for operating system fundamentals in books. Since there isn't much call to create new OS's from scratch you won't find a ton of hobbyist type information on the internet.
I recommend the standard text book, "Modern Operating Systems" by Tanenbaum. You may also be able to find "Operating System Elements" by Calingaert useful - it's a thin overview of a book which give a rough sketch of what an OS is from a designer's standpoint.
If you have any interest in real time systems (and you should at least understand the differences and reasons for real time OS's) then I'd also recommend "MicroC/OS-II" by Labrosse.
Can you specify what you mean by "more technical"? These books give pseudo code implementation details, but are you looking for an example OS, or code snippets for a particular machine/language?
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Just coming from another question. I'd like to mention Pintos... I remembered my OS course with Nachos and Pintos seems to be the same kind of thing that can run on x86.
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hum sorry, no i've no idea. – LB40 Sep 27 '10 at 9:37
I found Robert Love's Linux Kernel Development quite interesting. It tells you about how the different subsystems in the Linux kernel works in a very down-to-earth way. Since the source is available Linux is a prime candidate for something to hack on.
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Start hacking away at Minix. It's a lot smaller than Linux (obviously) and it's designed with teaching purposes in mind (some, at least). Not Minix 3 though, that's a whole different story.
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Already answer, but when I took Operating Systems in college we started with an early linux kernel and added simplistic modern features (basic file systems, virtual memory, multitasking, mutexes). Good fun. You get to skip some of the REALLY crazy low level assembly only stuff for mucking w/ protected mode and page tables while still learned some of the guts.
http://kerneltrap.org/node/14002 http://kerneltrap.org/files/linux-0.01.tar.bz2
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Here are some other Stack Overflow pages worth incorporating into this discussion:
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My operating systems course in undergrad had us building a number of subsystems for OS/161, a simple, BSD-like kernel that provides some of the basics while leaving the freedom to explore various design space decisions in implementing higher-level services.
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You might want to look at linuxfromscratch.
Linux From Scratch (LFS) is a project that provides you with step-by-step instructions for building your own custom Linux system, entirely from source code.
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Compiling an operating system is a far cry from writing one. – duskwuff Aug 23 '09 at 1:19
-1, I agree with duskwuff – Carmine Paolino Aug 25 '09 at 13:23
@duskwuff You're right but you will learn a lot from it. Then you can go ahead and write your own. – jfs Oct 13 '09 at 3:33
A simple and basic OS development tutorial designed to be a semester's project. It guides you through to build an OS with basic components. Very good start for beginners. Related paper is here.
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Great resources. The paper refers to Nachos(2500 lines of code), OS/161 (11000), MINIX(30000), GeekOS. Go to each university official page and you 'll find source code, simulator and tools as well the assignments per year. – limitCracker Apr 25 '13 at 13:28
An excellent resource is the material of the MIT course 6.828: Operating System Engineering.
XV6 - simple Unix-like teaching OS written in ANSI C for x86 http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/6.828/2012/xv6.html
XV6 source - as a printed booklet with line numbers http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/6.828/2012/xv6/xv6-rev7.pdf
XV6 book - explains the main ideas of os design http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/6.828/2012/xv6/book-rev7.pdf
The material is compact: 92 pages source and 96 pages commentary.
I like it more than the Minix book! It's a true gem!
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One reasonably simple OS to study would be µC/OS. The book has a floppy with the source on it.
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Check out the Managed Operating System Alliance (MOSA) Project at www.mosa-project.org. They are designing an AOT/JIT compiler and fully managed operating system in C#. Some of the developers are from the inactive SharpOS project.
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I've toyed with Cosmos, which is "an operating system project implemented completely in CIL compliant languages." It's written in C#, so that was right up my alley. For someone like myself who has never attempted to build an operating system, it was actually pretty cool to be able to get a "Hello World" operating system running in no time.
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I would like to include this repo How-to-Make-a-Computer-Operating-System by Samy Pesse. Is a work-in-progress. Very interesting.
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Thanks, I was meaning to add this to the list after I ran into it on Reddit, but completely forgot. – Giovanni Galbo Dec 8 '13 at 12:58
As mentioned above, the OSDev Wiki is (by far) the best source for OS development. For those of you who speak German, the lowlevel.eu Wiki is also great. Something relatively unknown Incitatus OS, a simple kernel with a tiny set of userspace apps. It's great to use for getting into the complicated topic of OS development.
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Movitz is a Lisp environment written in Common Lisp and running "on the metal". Unfortunately, some links on the Movitz main page deny access, but you can find instructions on how to download and compile the source code from the trac page. Also, a ready image can be found on the archive of this page.
IMHO this is utmost interesting, as it brings back the Lisp machine concept on the currently available hardware. It failed commercially, but this does not prove to me that the idea was bad.
The Unix haters handbook is a fun book that semi-seriously berates the concept of Unix and its derivatives. Many sections argument about how better the Lisp machine concept was.
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The x86 JS simulator and ARM simulator can also be very useful to understand how different pieces hardware works and make tests without exiting your favourite browser.
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Wow that's really neat, thanks for sharing! – Giovanni Galbo Jun 28 '14 at 15:45
Intresting Question for the programmers. See it will take long long long time to build OS like Windows or Mac but if you want build a simple ones then you can try your best
1. You need to focus on Assembly Language,C and C++. You should be expert in these languages.
2. First read a good book on how OS works[Google it], then read all the info from Wiki OS
3. Search in youtube "How to create your own OS in Assembly Language" watch the video, Eg. Video
4. Download Linux OS source code and compile it yourself and try to modify the code yourself
5. Now you are an experienced OS editor now download Minix and QNX and start developing with them and get their docs from here Minix Doc and QNX Doc
Now you have gained the master degree(Not completely just a little more to go) in creating OS now distribute this knownledge to your freinds and with their help try to create an OS as powerful as Mac, Linux or Windows
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Editors please edit my answer and remove space betweern http: and www as i am a new comer so, i dont have so high repu, plz do that stuff for me – BharatKhanna Feb 5 '13 at 12:26
Here's a paper called "Writing a Simple Operating System From Scratch". It covers writing a bootloader, entering x86-32 protected mode, and writing a basic kernel in C. It seems to do a good job at explaining everything in detail.
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When you have made a basic operating system it's actually hard to continue because there isn't many ressources on making GUIs or porting libraries. But i think taking a look at ToAruOS would help a lot!
The code under the surface of that OS is so damn simple! but at the same time he has ported things like cairo, python, (not yet but soon) sdl, made share memory and he has also made his own widget toolkit. It's all written in C.
Another interesting OS would be pedigreeOS. It's made by JamesM (the man behind jamesM's kernel tutorial. While it has more features than ToaruOS it's also bigger and more confusing.
But anyway these 2 OS will help you a lot especially ToAruOS.
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When I started working on my basic operating systems I needed a basic guide like Stepping stones for a basic operating system. It helped me not loose my head.
That if you want to make it from absolutely nothing (pure assembly code)
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Hi I have installed Soap UI...Like C, Java we will create some sample program. likewise i wanted to use some sample request and response..how to create a request and response without wsdl?
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SOAP UI will create a request for you - if you have WSDL. If you don't, then you're on your own. How is SOAP UI supposed to help you in that case? – duffymo Mar 22 '11 at 10:07
any sample wsdl file is there? – user611315 Mar 22 '11 at 10:15
@duffymo - How SOAP UI can help? By probing or allowing the user to manually probe the functions and thereby build up a WSDL. For me, it's catch 22 - What's the point of SoapUI if I have a perfectly well defined WSDL in the first place? – Hein du Plessis Oct 17 '11 at 7:04
You can check this link to get started soapui.org/getting-started/your-first-soapui-project.html, you can also find sample wsdls too. – Rao Mar 4 at 14:27
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• Ctrl+N New SOAP Project
• Set the name: whatever
• !!!!Leave blank Initial-WSDL!!!!
• Right Mouseclick New Rest Service from URI:
• E.g.: http://www.webservicex.net/WS/WSDetails.aspx?CATID=2&WSID=10
• Choose POST
• Put your xml-request to left-bottom editbox
• Click to green arrow
• And voila, you can see on right side the xml-answer without any wsdl-using :)
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Although you asked this question a few years back and hopefully you have been able to find an answer to your question.
Here is my answer to your question, hopefully not too late.
SoapUI is meant to test API, web service. To start testing it requires access to a WSDL. That said a project can be created without a WSDL. The only time i can think of i would not need a wsdl would be when whatever I am testing is not a web service and can be testing using either JDBC step or groovy step or a similar step except the test request step.
In one of your comments you asked if a wsdl is available, yes there are site where publicly accessible wsdls are available you can check out the below site for wsdls.
Hope you are having better luck with soapUI than you had with this question.
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Also, SoapUI itself comes with sample tutorials, which come with a WSDL. – SiKing May 23 '14 at 17:34
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I'm not entirely sure this is the correct stack exchange subsite to post this question to, but...
I'm looking for an algorithm that I can use to determine with a decent amount of certainty if a given piece of audio is music or not. Just a boolean result is fine, I don't need to know the key, bpm or anything like that, I just need to be able to determine if it appears to be music (as opposed to speech). Programming language is irrelevant, but I'll end up converting it to Python.
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even humans will disagree on whether a given sound is music or not :-/ – Mat Apr 3 '11 at 19:38
This is a very hard problem. – Oliver Charlesworth Apr 3 '11 at 19:38
If the only other option is speech, you might get away with a simple frequency check, as a lot of it will usually be outside the spectrum of a human voice. – Wrikken Apr 3 '11 at 19:45
I would ask at cstheory.stackexchange.com and IF YOU'RE LUCKY you might find some grad student there who is working on something that can do this. I know it seems like what you're asking for is simple; but you're really asking for a lot. People can get their PhDs off of providing what you just asked for. – Dave Apr 3 '11 at 19:46
If you ever solve this problem, I'd like to run it on my university's "Center for 21st-century music" to see what happens. – Thom Smith Apr 3 '11 at 19:47
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In a phrase, Fourier analysis. Look at the power of different frequencies over time. Here's speech, and here's violin playing. The former shows dramatic changes with every syllable; the 'flow' is very disjoint and could be picked up by an algorithm which took the derivative of the different frequency bands as a function of time. In paradigmatic music, on the other hand, the transitions are much smoother and the tones are purer (less 'blur' in the graph). See also the 'spectrogram' wikipedia page.
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What you could do is set up a few Karplus Strong resonance rings and through the audio through them, and just monitor the level of energy in each ring
if it is Western music, it is pretty much all tuned to 12-TET, ie logarithmic 12 tone scale based around concert pitch A4@440Hz
so just pick 3 or 4 notes equally spaced through the octave eg C5, (omit C# D D#) E5 (omit F F# G) G#5 (omit A A# B)
and at least one of those rings will be flaring regularly -- whichever key the music is in, it's probably going to hit one of those notes quite a lot
ideally do it for a bunch of notes, but if you need this real-time it can get a bit heavy feeding your audio simultaneously into 50 rings
alternatively you could even use a pitch detector and catalogue recorded pitches, and look at ratios of log(noteAfreq):log(noteBfreq) see whether they are arranging themselves into low order fractions like 3:4 += 0.5%. but I don't think anyone has built a decent polyphonic pitch detector -- it is practically impossible.
Melodyne might have pulled it off
If it's just a vocal signal you can e-mail me.
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Look for a small "First differential" over a sequence of FFTs that are in the range of music tones (ie: 1024 samples per chunk run through FFT, then plot chunk1-chunk0,chunk2-chunk1,...). As a first approximation, this should be enough to detect simple things.
This is the sort of algorithm that could be tweaked forever, even in genre-specific ways. Music itself is generally periodic as well, so coming up with a way to run FFTs over the FFTs. And the idea to look for a consistent twelfth root of two spread of outstanding frequencies sounds really plausible.
I bet you were hoping to find this sitting in an free Python library for you to simply drop a file into. :-)
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What's the correct pattern to resize controls when a font size changes?
For example, I used the WPF designer to make a form, and placed UI elements from the toolbox. Late in the game I got the requirement that the font size of every UI element needs to be configurable, so now I'm thinking there has to be a better way to resize controls when the font size changes. Right now I'm doing alot of code behind calculations on Margin properties.
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For such cases I usually place my control inside Grids and StackPanels, this way font size won't affect the layout, everything will be stretchable.
Never place controls on the Window using absolute coordinates.
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+1 this Eugen is right this is the base design rule in WPF (or similar). Consider that even later on you might get requirement for localization of your GUI. Grids, DockPanels, StackPanels and especially WrapPanels will save you! – drasto Apr 29 '11 at 23:04
Make sure your Height and Width on the controls are set to Auto. When you use the designer/toolbox to add controls it usually provides a static height/width. If you type the tag in the XAML editor you get the control default which is usually Auto.
You'll notice the black diamond in the property window next to the attributes that are changed from their default value. You can right click and choose reset value to clear the attribute from your XAML and see what the default value is.
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I have two arrays. One is a set of skills, the other is a set of skills that a user can do. To illustrate :
['swimming', 'rowing', 'cycling'] is the set of all skills
Now, a user can have its set of skills like :
['rowing', 'cycling']
How can i create a nice hash that will present whether a user has a current skill ? Like for this particular user, it would be :
{'swimming' => no, 'rowing' => yes, 'cycling', => yes}
P.S. I actually want to do this with active record objects in rails, but i suppose it's the same idea.
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The following will give true and false instead of yes and no.
all_skills = %w[swimming rowing cycling]
user_skills = %w[rowing cycling]
Hash[all_skills.map{|k| [k, user_skills.include?(k)]}]
or, if you don't mind getting nil instead for the no cases, the following is faster.
Hash[user_skills.map{|k| [k, true]}]}
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Here's one terse way to do that:
ALL_SPORTS = ['swimming', 'rowing', 'cycling']
user_array = ['rowing', 'cycling']
user_hash = ALL_SPORTS.inject(Hash.new) { |h, sport| {sport => user_array.include?(sport)}.merge(h) }
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I am presuming when you say 'yes' and 'no' you really want boolean values. The following doesn't use any intermediate values and only relies on the user's defined sports:
> h = Hash.new(false).merge(Hash[%w[rowing swimming].map {|v| [v.to_sym, true]}])
=> {:rowing=>true, :swimming=>true}
Now if you invoke any other sport as a key that the user doesn't have you get the desired result:
> h[:golf]
=> false
This also assumes you want symbols for keys too.
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After various difficulties with a proprietary BPM tool (SAP) I want to take a birds eye view on the current market and the tools which are currently available.
Can anyone share experience with those tools, either from other vendors (IBM, Oracle) or open source? I'm particularly interested in mapping functionality and UI-integration features.
Many thanks!
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jBPM5 it's a great alternative. Right now jBPM5 supports the latest BPMN2 specifiction from business process modeling and execution. jBPM5 also provides the possibility to integrate the web-based process designer and tooling inside your applications. Take a look at www.jbpm.org and my personal blog for more information and material: http://salaboy.wordpress.com
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We had evaluated various open source BPM engine like JBPM, Activiti ,Active VOS,Bonitasoft BPM We finally chose JBPM5 Reason being: 1) Great Web Designer for process designing 2) Integration with Rules and Events 3) BPMN2.0 notation AND bpmn2 executable
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I have a ip check in my source use csharp.
And now, I must to think about the check rule about the ipv4 and ipv6.
The client side maybe like ↓
・only ipv4
・only ipv6
・both ipv4 and ipv6
Im sorry , Im new to the networking .
As so , Is anybody could give me some suggestion about the ip check?
About the IP Check:
I have a check like ↓ now :
bool isgoodip()
return ip.startwith(173);
If the client side has only the ipv6 , how can I do the check like this ?
and , is there has a server setting can convert the ipv6 to the ipv4 auto ?
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what's an IP check? – Joe Jul 7 '11 at 2:28
There's no "conversion" from IPv6 to IPv4-- they are completely independent systems. I also don't see what use this kind of check provides. – Joe Jul 7 '11 at 2:49
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Using Statements
using System.Net;
using System.Net.Sockets;
IP Checking Code
IPAddress address = IPAddress.Parse("");
if (address.AddressFamily == AddressFamily.InterNetwork) // IPv4
// do ipv4 stuff here
if (address.AddressFamily == AddressFamily.InterNetworkV6) // IPv6
// do ipv6 stuff here
if ((address.AddressFamily == AddressFamily.InterNetwork) || (address.AddressFamily == AddressFamily.InterNetworkV6)) // IPv4 and IPv6
// do both ipv4 and ipv6 stuff here
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I'm new to WPF. I just want to know how should we add columns and rows programatically to a DataGrid in WPF. The way we used to do it in windows forms. create table columns and rows, and bind it to DataGrid.
I believe WPF DataGrid is bit different the one used in ASP.net and Windows form (correct me if I am wrong).
I have No. of rows and columns which I need to draw in DataGrid so that user can edit the data in the cells. Let me know if you have any ideas.
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To programatically add a row:
DataGrid.Items.Add(new DataItem());
To programatically add a column:
DataGridTextColumn textColumn = new DataGridTextColumn();
textColumn.Header = "First Name";
textColumn.Binding = new Binding("FirstName");
Check out this post on the WPF DataGrid discussion board for more information.
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-1: because you show the painfully easy part, but not how to actually bind data to those runtime added columns. I'm sure that Andy wants to build an application that displays some sort of data, not just column names. – JohnB Jan 19 '11 at 5:10
It is just a matter of setting properties on the DataGridTextColumn. I updated the answer. – John Myczek Jan 19 '11 at 14:19
+1: I confirmed that works, thanks. I also discovered that when you add the square brackets, i.e. Binding("[FirstName]") see my previous answer below, that it works, but it's significantly slower when binding large datasets. – JohnB Jan 19 '11 at 15:32
try this , it works 100 % : add columns and rows programatically : you need to create item class at first :
public class Item
public int Num { get; set; }
public string Start { get; set; }
public string Finich { get; set; }
private void generate_columns()
DataGridTextColumn c1 = new DataGridTextColumn();
c1.Header = "Num";
c1.Binding = new Binding("Num");
c1.Width = 110;
DataGridTextColumn c2 = new DataGridTextColumn();
c2.Header = "Start";
c2.Width = 110;
c2.Binding = new Binding("Start");
DataGridTextColumn c3 = new DataGridTextColumn();
c3.Header = "Finich";
c3.Width = 110;
c3.Binding = new Binding("Finich");
dataGrid1.Items.Add(new Item() { Num = 1, Start = "2012, 8, 15", Finich = "2012, 9, 15" });
dataGrid1.Items.Add(new Item() { Num = 2, Start = "2012, 12, 15", Finich = "2013, 2, 1" });
dataGrid1.Items.Add(new Item() { Num = 3, Start = "2012, 8, 1", Finich = "2012, 11, 15" });
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I found a solution that adds columns at runtime, and binds to a DataTable.
Unfortunately, with 47 columns defined this way, it doesn't bind to the data fast enough for me. Any suggestions?
xaml.cs using System.Windows.Data;
if (table != null) // table is a DataTable
foreach (DataColumn col in table.Columns)
new DataGridTextColumn
Header = col.ColumnName,
Binding = new Binding(string.Format("[{0}]", col.ColumnName))
dataGrid.DataContext = table;
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Did you find any solution for this back then?? – 321X Aug 11 '11 at 12:44
Why do you use "[{0}]" in the binding path? It doesn't work for me, but when I just use the name without square and curlies then it works? – smerlung Feb 11 at 13:26
I had the same problem. Adding new rows to WPF DataGrid requires a trick. DataGrid relies on property fields of an item object. ExpandoObject enables to add new properties dynamically. The code below explains how to do it:
// using System.Dynamic;
DataGrid dataGrid;
string[] labels = new string[] { "Column 0", "Column 1", "Column 2" };
foreach (string label in labels)
DataGridTextColumn column = new DataGridTextColumn();
column.Header = label;
column.Binding = new Binding(label.Replace(' ', '_'));
int[] values = new int[] { 0, 1, 2 };
dynamic row = new ExpandoObject();
for (int i = 0; i < labels.Length; i++)
((IDictionary<String, Object>)row)[labels[i].Replace(' ', '_')] = values[i];
Note that this is not the way how the component should be used, however, it simplifies a lot if you have only programmatically generated data (eg. in my case: a sequence of features and neural network output).
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I posted a sample project describing how to use PropertyDescriptor and lambda delegates with dynamic ObservableCollection and DynamicObject to populate a grid with strongly-typed column definitions.
Columns can be added/removed at runtime dynamically. If your data is not a object with known type, you could create a data structure that would enable access by any number of columns and specify a PropertyDescriptor for each "column".
For example:
IList<string> ColumnNames { get; set; }
//dict.key is column name, dict.value is value
Dictionary<string, string> Rows { get; set; }
You can define columns this way:
var descriptors= new List<PropertyDescriptor>();
//retrieve column name from preprepared list or retrieve from one of the items in dictionary
foreach(var columnName in ColumnNames)
descriptors.Add(new DynamicPropertyDescriptor<Dictionary, string>(ColumnName, x => x[columnName]))
MyItemsCollection = new DynamicDataGridSource(Rows, descriptors)
Or even better, in case of some real objects
public class User
public string FirstName { get; set; }
public string LastName{ get; set; }
You can specify columns strongly typed (related to your data model):
var propertyDescriptors = new List<PropertyDescriptor>
new DynamicPropertyDescriptor<User, string>("First name", x => x.FirstName ),
new DynamicPropertyDescriptor<User, string>("Last name", x => x.LastName ),
var users = retrieve some users
Users = new DynamicDataGridSource<User>(users, propertyDescriptors, PropertyChangedListeningMode.Handler);
Then you just bind to Users collections and columns are autogenerated as you speficy them. Strings passed to property descriptors are names for column headers. At runtime you can add more PropertyDescriptors to 'Users' add another column to the grid.
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hi.. your link is not working – D J Jul 4 '13 at 9:22
If you already have the databinding in place John Myczek answer is complete.
If not you have at least 2 options I know of if you want to specify the source of your data. (However I am not sure whether or not this is in line with most guidelines, like MVVM)
option 1: like JohnB said. But I think you should use your own defined collection instead of a weakly typed DataTable (no offense, but you can't tell from the code what each column represents)
DataContext = myCollection;
//myCollection is a `ICollection<YourType>` preferably
- option 2) Declare the name of the Datagrid in xaml
<WpfToolkit:DataGrid Name=dataGrid}>
in xaml.cs
CollectionView myCollectionView =
dataGrid.ItemsSource = myCollectionView;
If your type has a property FirstName defined, you can then do what John Myczek pointed out.
DataGridTextColumn textColumn = new DataGridTextColumn();
dataColumn.Header = "First Name";
dataColumn.Binding = new Binding("FirstName");
This obviously doesn't work if you don't know properties you will need to show in your dataGrid, but if that is the case you will have more problems to deal with, and I believe that's out of scope here.
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I am trying to get column value from cursor, this column is generated at run time by calculations inside the query, i am getting null value of this column , i am able to get value of all other columns which exists in sqlite table.
i execute the same query on sqlite editor , it also shows the value of generated column in result set.
why this giving null value when i am retrieving it from cursor?
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Please provide the code that you use to query and retrieve column values. – Secator Feb 23 '12 at 11:26
@Chandrapal Yadav: are you sure,you are including that column when you fire query? be sure,you don't miss it! – Hiral Feb 23 '12 at 11:37
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Very Simple you can get it by either of following way
String id = cursor.getString( cursor.getColumnIndex("id") ); // id is column name in db
String id = cursor.getString( cursor.getColumnIndex(0)); // id is first column in db
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What is Cursor in this example? – Kala J Oct 30 '14 at 19:58
Cursor column names are case sensitive, make sure you match the case specified in the db or column alias name
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I've got a complete backup of my main PC on 1.5 TB external hard drive that I carry around with my laptop so I can have access to all of my files while I'm on the move, however it has just dawned on me that if someone nicks my external hard drive they now have access to everything!
Hence I'm looking for a way to encrypt my external hard drive. I'm after something that is:
• Secure (if I need to carry around a USB dongle to keep the key on so be it)
• Fast (the performance of the drive should still be reasonable)
• Cross-platform (I regularly use other peoples computers - Sometimes they are not windows based and might not even have internet access, however I still want to be able to access my files)
• Cheap (preferably free / open source!)
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What about Truecrypt? (http://www.truecrypt.org/)
Secure: Yes.
Speed: Depends on how you encrypt your drive.
Cross platform: Yes.
Free: Yes, and open-source.
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Down-voted. TrueCrypt may be free as in beer, but it is not free as in speech. It is not FOSS. – sampablokuper Mar 23 '12 at 5:13
@sampablokuper - Still, the best, and easiest option. And I'm not Stallmann. I want a software to work. That's it. =) – Shiki Mar 23 '12 at 20:20
Stallman or not, please don't describe TrueCrypt as free and open-source. Its source code is available, but its preposterous license means it lacks many defined properties of free and open source software (FOSS). Most TrueCrypt users are likely in breach of its license, by the way. (For example: did you consult a lawyer to check whether every term of the license was enforceable in your jurisdiction before you began using TrueCrypt? If not, you've breached the license, because it explicitly requires users to seek legal advice on this matter before using the software.) – sampablokuper Mar 23 '12 at 21:30
NB. If you don't understand what the difference is, have a look at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSS . It's up to you whether you want to use FOSS or not, but the difference is still important, and StackExchange answers should aim to be truthful. – sampablokuper Mar 23 '12 at 21:34
Glad to see, that even Stallman registered on this site. Welcome aboard, man! – Shiki Mar 24 '12 at 9:56
TrueCrypt may be an option, assuming its format is compatible with itself between platforms, if you have sufficient rights to use it at all the locations you need to read the drive (http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/?s=truecrypt-portable has some notes and links relevant to portable use and admin priviledges)
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FreeOTFE provides Win32 support for LUKS.
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If you are wanting to view the files on your laptop from the portable hard drive, you may want to also encrypt the laptop hard drive too. This is probably more likely to get stolen as it's worth a lot more (I'm presuming).
And it also depends on the files. If they are just personal files to you, like photos, you may not want to go through the hassle of encrypting them.
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The laptop drive is already encrypted (its a company laptop) – Justin Apr 3 '10 at 18:55
You may want to ask the admin how the laptop hard drive is encrypted then, as they may have a good solution for you to encrypt the portable hard drive too – lavamunky Apr 3 '10 at 19:30
I would: Create a small (say 2GB) partition on the portable drive. Put TrueCrypt on that partition. Use that installation to encrypt the other, valuable partition. I am leery of using keyfiles because I consider any stored content as volatile, no matter what promises are made by Windows. So I would just come up with a bulletproof very long password.
Your question is not technical so much as preferential/experience, but TrueCrypt meets the four criteria you've laid down. This is working for me very well in a slightly different context. As pointed out above, TrueCrypt may not be RMS-open, but it's better than what I had before, and seems not to have let me down yet.
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This answer doesn't seem to add anything over the other answers from more than three years ago. – ChrisInEdmonton Nov 2 '13 at 13:57
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I have Asus M51Sn notebook, running Windows 7 (but also Linux, but this question is just about Windows). As you can see in the following image, it has five completely useless keys at the top of the keyboard. I want to remap such keys to useful things.
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In this laptop, I have to use Fn+F5 and Fn+F6 to change the brightness, and Fn+F10, Fn+F11 and Fn+F12 to mute or change the volume. These actions are VERY cumbersome, as they need two hands to be pressed and I need to look at the keyboard to find where is the correct key. What I want is to remap the useless keys at the top (as seen in the previous picture) to change brightness and volume.
As I said, I need a solution for Windows 7 (I've already remapped the keys on my Linux system).
I have installed a program from Asus called ATK Hotkey, which is responsible for showing OSD messages about brightness/volume changes. However, this program is very bad, as it runs completely hidden from the user and has NO configuration at all. Not even configuration files, it has just a few EXE and DLL files, nothing more. It is so bad that the "open browser" key on my keyboard always launch Internet Explorer, even if it is not my default browser. If needed, I will happily uninstall this program if I find something better. (remapping keys to useful actions is much more important than OSD messages)
Things I've already tried
Uninstalling ATK Hotkey
Without ATK Hotkey, I can still change the brightness (as it is probably handled by BIOS), but Fn+F* keys don't change the volume anymore.
SharpKeys 3.0
SharpKeys 3.0 couldn't read any of the special keys on my laptop. My bet is that they aren't actual key presses, but instead ACPI events. Thus, I need a way to map some ACPI events to useful actions.
I've tried installing AutoHotkey and running a script to find scancode of a key. No luck, these special keys on my laptop don't appear to generate scancode or keypress events. (got this idea from a StackOverflow answer, too bad it didn't work for me)
Update, 4 years later: In 2014, that notebook broke and I stopped using it. In addition, I don't run Windows on my current notebook.
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possible duplicate of How to remap special keys on my keyboard – Revolter Jan 2 '12 at 5:58
@Revolter: related, but not duplicate. A standard keyboard will send keypresses for those extra keys. This Asus laptop, on the other hand, seems to send ACPI events that can't be easily customized. – Denilson Sá Jan 8 '12 at 23:13
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From the The ASUS Info Booth topic (at Notebook Review forum), I found a link called Customize ASUS hotkeys. That link sent me to Asus notebook keys, v1.3 topic on that forum:
Asus notebook keys, v1.3
This program gives you ability to define own actions for additional buttons of Asus notebooks.
That's all I needed! What's more: the source-code is included! (too bad I don't have Visual Studio).
However, the program from the first post has a silly GUI mistake, which was later fixed by another user and then released as AsusNbKeysCtr-1.3fix.zip (but without source-code).
Using that program (the fixed version), I was able to remap the extra laptop keys to Volume Up, Volume Down and Volume Mute keystrokes, which are directly recognized by Windows. That's great, and solves half of my problem!
The other half, however, involves changing the monitor brightness. Unfortunately, there is no easy solution for that, and I need a command-line program to increase and decrease the brightness.
I've found two command-line applications that allow me to set the brightness to some value, but they do not allow me to increase or decrease it. The first one is Brightener, written by Ciaran user. The second one is Display Brightness Vista Gadget from edgylogic.com. Since they don't solve my issue, I still need a program to change the brightness.
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Saw your comment on another answer I left for setting brightness so I modded the app I wrote for that question a bit and came up with a tray app which you can use to control brightness (same restrictions apply as per the comments in the other thread).
This version of the app is pretty poor at the moment. Some seriously bad code at the moment but it seems to work for me anyway. Currently the hotkey is hardcoded as CTRL + ALT + UP / DOWN but as you'll see there's a dialog available to set up the hotkeys yourself. Doesn't work at the moment but I'll get around to fixing it at some point.
When I do get around to fixing the settings, I'll clean the code up a little and post it here too.
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Thank you! But hey, no need for fancy dialogs! If you can make it so I can call it as brightener +1 for increasing (or -1 for decreasing), that's enough! A simple command-line interface is perfect for my need (because I already have other program to map a key to a command). – Denilson Sá Jan 25 '11 at 1:05
Design wise it wouldn't work too well. Incrementing by 1% at a time will mean that you'll open and close a console app 100 times to go from one end of the spectrum to another. A tray app with hotkeys is probably the best way to do this. Unless you can argue against it. – Ciaran Jan 25 '11 at 21:32
Well, since I'm used to Unix/Linux background, console apps are quite natural for me. However, on Windows they tend to popup the command prompt window, as you mentioned. So... maybe the GUI program, when called with some command-line parameters, could change the brightness and quit, without even opening any window. Well, that's just an idea. Gotta try your program later, when I reboot back into Windows. – Denilson Sá Jan 31 '11 at 4:14
Okay, I've finally tested it. It works, thank you! But it has only 4 brightness levels (which, on my monitor, are "dark" and 3 levels of "very bright"), while I know my monitor has around 10~15 brightness levels (and I usually toggle between the 3 lowest levels). So... it would be better if it didn't skip levels when changing the brightness. – Denilson Sá Feb 13 '11 at 0:44
Probably a little bit late to answer, but after following link after link I found a version of DMedia that replaces the normal one and dispatches general keyboard key events for media playback. I know the question was about other buttons, but the fact that the media keys launched a random app each time (and that in Windows 8 it brings WMP to the foreground) bothered me.
The app can be found in binary form here (there's a source in bitbucket should you see it) http://3mptylab.blogspot.it/2012/09/how-to-make-asus-notebooks-media-keys.html
Just download the rar file, stop the DMedia.exe process, go to your ATK Media installation folder, rename the original DMedia.exe just in case and then put the downloaded DMedia.exe in the same folder. Execute it to make it work (and normally it should launch at boot).
It's based on this code, which worked only for one app. http://zaak404.wordpress.com/2011/05/09/controlling-foobar2000-with-asus-g73-media-keys/
Working great on my Asus U30Jc under Windows 8 64-bit, whereas all other methods failed to work properly.
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So this morning my computer wouldn't turn on. Pressing the power button has no affect. When I turn off the switch at the back and push the power button after turning it back on it seems for about half a second that everything works: fans appear to start moving and the PSU light turns on. This happens only for a brief moment (less than a second) and than everything turns back off. I can repeat this by turning Off and On the switch at the back of the case or by unplugging the power cable out and plugging in again. There is a small led on the motherboard which is always on when power is connected (doesn't matter if the computer is on or off) and it is still on now.
I am trying to diagnose what is the cause of the problem PSU or motherboard, any ideas?
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Is there any "beep code?" – David Nov 8 '10 at 16:01
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Unplug everything you can possibly unplug, internally and externally, and remove all expansion cards and RAM. So, with nothing but the main ATX power header and CPU power header (and front panel and internal speaker connections attached - see comments) attached and no RAM, if the box STILL won't power on, you probably either have a power supply or motherboard problem (the odds of a failed CPU are nil unless you've been overclocking like crazy, and if you're savvy enough to do that you shouldn't be asking this question).
If it beeps at you, which it should if you try to power it on with no RAM, reattach stuff piece by piece (starting with the RAM) to see if you can isolate a problem.
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If you are listening for beep codes, make sure you actually have a case speaker attached. – ubiquibacon Nov 8 '10 at 17:33
@typoknig - Oops! I forget some boards have those disconnectable, haha, sorry. – Shinrai Nov 8 '10 at 17:44
tried it and still the same. I guess I will have to take it to the repairman since I don't have spares to switch and check which one it's actually is. – user54921 Nov 8 '10 at 20:55
@user54921 - I'd give heavy odds it's a bad power supply - if you have another PC around you could swap them. (Obviously this isn't so easy with the motherboard or CPU). Hope you get it resolved soon though - don't forget to come back and pick an answer if someone actually answered your question. ;) – Shinrai Nov 9 '10 at 0:02
Several possibilities, actually too many possibilities.
I believe this is a job for the repairman.
Nobody can diagnose your problem over this forum, and implementing all the suggestions you will get here will cost you much more than the repairman will.
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+1 - But 'implementing all the suggestions' may cost you more. – CJM Nov 8 '10 at 17:16
There is nothing a "repairman" can do that cannot be described here. This is a place for techies. If it costs more for him to do things than for a "repairman", then that's for him to decide. And he is welcome to be the repair man if he wants. And any replies are not just for him, but for others with the problem, including people that tend to fix things themselves. – barlop Nov 8 '10 at 18:03
@barlop: OK, tell him to change the PSU. If this doesn't work then the BIOS battery, then capacitors, then RAM, followed by disk, then the motherboard. Very technical. Been there, done that. There are a zillion cases like it on SU, and my above advice was the only one that worked so many times that I'm really tired of giving it again and again. I really wish SU had a FAQ. – harrymc Nov 8 '10 at 19:08
@barlop: Oh, and thank you for the down-vote. – harrymc Nov 8 '10 at 19:11
@harrymc - I won't downvote because it's a cogent answer but barlop is right when he says "If it costs more for him to do things than for a "repairman", then that's for him to decide. And he is welcome to be the repair man if he wants. And any replies are not just for him, but for others with the problem, including people that tend to fix things themselves." – Shinrai Nov 9 '10 at 0:03
It sounds like a failing power supply. You might be able to buy yourself some time with the following trick:
1. Turn off the switch directly on the power supply.
2. Wait 30 seconds
3. Place one hand by the switch on the power supply and the other next to the normal power switch for the computer.
4. Turn the switch on the power supply back on
5. After about a 1/4 to 1/2 second pause press the main power switch on the computer. This press should be distinctly separate from activating the switch on the power supply, but before the cpu fan stops moving.
Where I'm at we have a 20 machine computer lab that was last updated about 7 years ago. The lab is (finally!) up for replacement over the Christmas break. There are 4 machines in the lab with ailing power supplies matching the exact symptoms you describe. Rather than replace the power supplies now for machines that are schedule to be swapped out soon I've been able to use this trick to keep them going.
Note that this will only buy you a little time. The trick actually only still works on three of my affected machines, and I don't expect that to continue much longer. My solution in this lab is just to hand an "out of order" sign on them for the rest of the semester when they no longer boot at all. The lab rarely needs the full capacity this late in the semester. It's more for orientation classes early on. But for you, the trick should allow you to use the computer while you wait for a new power supply to ship.
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That's a premature diagnosis - it could be the PSU... or the Mobo or the RAM. I've actually seen other components produce similar results (a dodgy NIC actually). Secondly, if it is the PSU, trying to force the PSU's arm could be counter-productive - the voltage regulation circuitry (on mobo) will do it's best to protect, but nevertheless, 'jump-starting' it might not be the best idea. – CJM Nov 8 '10 at 17:02
What is the name of this process? I haven't heard of it before. Any web links on it? – barlop Nov 9 '10 at 20:27
It could be one of many components, but it is likely to be the RAM/CPU/PSU/Motherboard (in no particular order).
If you have access to some spare components or a someone else's similar machine, you can possibly isolate the problem yourself. The first task is to test one stick of RAM in another machine. If the RAM is good, leave it (on it's own) in your machine, leave the CPU and the PSU connected, but remove all other RAM/cards/disks/peripherals. If this allows you PC to at least 'turn-over', your RAM may well be the problem.
Likewise, if the problem remains, you need to either test each of the other main components either by proving them in another machine, or by replacing them with a spare one. Be sure to use compatible components for testing - that is, if you try to cannibalise another machine to test this one, make sure that they use similar components. The specification in your user guide should indicate this, or otherwise seek specific information from your OEM.
For your average home or business user, this might prove difficult, which is where your local independent repair shop comes in. Yes, you'll have to pay for labour on top of the replacement parts, but unless you have your own resources, you have no choice.
If you aren't confident under the bonnet of your PC, this might also be the safest option.
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I just faced the same problem. Surprisingly the problem was due to loose plug. On holding the plug tightly it went away. We now switched the plug to a different point.
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I recently bought a new video card for my pc.
It's a Nvidia Geforce GTX 560 Ti with dual fans on it.
On this picture you can see: http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/public/uJvlZEEg02SnxoZSYkpQYQUmahWFrtvDUgrW7ggnaKrNnhs8e6BbOWfP96Uh95S1AGTn0XdK5tsLQtcMui4P68EmHA19IrPqLx-c_umco5adSsPyNZnWqXyeChXthSy2
Now the problem is that the smaller fan on the right starts making a very strange ticking noise once in a while. It usually lasts for hours, and only stops when i give the fan a little flick. Then it goes back to spinning normally, without that sound.
I have taken the videocard apart, taken the big metal casing off to confirm it is not touching that. But even with the whole case off, it still make that noise. I can confirm that it isn't touching anything (as far as i can see). Also the fan is clean, no dust.
On this video you can how I 'fix' the noise: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxRbrkuaayw (best to turn up your speakers)
But it does come back after a few hours, and i gotta do it again.
I prefer not to have to send my card back to nVidia as that would leave me without a working PC for too long.
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If it's new then get it replaced. They MAY be willing to send you a new one first before you return the old one.
It may run "forever" BUT no fan should make any significant noise when new and there is a significant chance that it indicates a problem that will shorten the life.
OR You may be able to find a trailing edge video card cheap for while you wait.
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Correct. If a fan is making a ticking noise it's usually the bearing which is defective. Replace the fan :) – sinni800 Jan 18 '12 at 13:35
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Jonah Goldberg
As Richard Lindzen, professor of meteorology at MIT, recently lamented in the Wall Street Journal: "Scientists who dissent from the alarmism have seen their grant funds disappear, their work derided, and themselves libeled as industry stooges, scientific hacks or worse. Consequently, lies about climate change gain credence even when they fly in the face of the science that supposedly is their basis."
In Vanity Fair, writer Mark Hertsgaard alleges that Frederick Seitz, the former president of the National Academy of Sciences and the former president of the prestigious Rockefeller University, was a shill for, of all things, the tobacco industry. A press release by the National Environmental Trust proclaims "Scientist Who Spearheaded Attacks on Global Warming Also Directed $45M Tobacco Industry Effort to Hide Health Impacts of Smoking." Seitz, a giant in American science, says this is all "ridiculous, completely wrong." Now 94, Seitz explained to TCSDaily.com that R.J. Reynolds had given Rockefeller University $5 million a year for basic research. Seitz says he directed the money toward non-tobacco-related efforts in the study of prions (the virus-like proteins that cause mad cow disease), tuberculosis and other diseases. Prion researcher Stanley Prusiner thanked both R.J. Reynolds and Seitz in his Nobel Prize acceptance speech.
But Gore & Co. aren't troubled by such details because the smears are all for a good cause. That's why Gore saw nothing wrong in bullying dissident climate change scientists when he was a senator or waging a mean-spirited campaign to discredit the work of his old mentor, Harvard oceanographer Roger Revelle, because Revelle thought alarmism was unwarranted.
Hence the irony of the title "An Inconvenient Truth." It is the green scare that has no patience for inconvenient truths. For example, Gore blames the disappearing snows of Mt. Kilimanjaro on global warming, but a study in Nature magazine identified the clear-cutting of surrounding moisture-rich forests as the culprit. In the famously fact-checked New Yorker, editor David Remnick pens a love letter to Gore in which he laments that Earth will "likely be an uninhabitable planet" if we don't heed Gore's jeremiads. Oh ... come ... on!
This is just a small taste of the millenarian battiness running through the green scare. Sure, a one- or two-degree-per-century rise in average global temperatures may have unpleasant consequences - with some pleasant ones as well - but in what study did the New Yorker's fact-checkers verify that Earth will become uninhabitable? Moreover, the greens' proposed solutions to global warming are even more otherworldly. Reducing global carbon dioxide emissions to 60 percent of 1990 levels before 2050, while China, India and (hopefully) Africa modernize, is inconceivable, ill-conceived and also immoral because it would consign generations to poverty.
But none of that seems to matter to the greens. To them, the only thing we have to fear is the lack of fear itself.
Jonah Goldberg
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Paul Jacob
Every now and then we see a flurry of news stories about the dangers of prescription drug abuse. We are told that more people misuse doctor-prescribed drugs than abuse illegal “narcotics.” Then the stories disappear for a while . . . only to return again.
The problem exists, it’s large, yet it’s never solved.
We just live with it. Some of us are harmed. The rest of us move on.
This could preface any number of stories:
1. The tragedy of the War on Drugs.
2. The sheer insanity of the drug prescription system.
3. The bizarre inanity of journalistic messianism, with its absurd cycles of jacked-up crises and tarted-up solutions.
Instead, take a step back: The idea of being addicted to the wrong cure — to misusing an otherwise “good” drug — is something we all understand, at least some of the time.
Misusing a cure is no mystery.
A basic truth of pharmacology, too rarely acknowledged in popular discourse, goes something like this: there is no “good medicine” or “bad medicine,” just substances that, given the right diagnosis, work at the right dose. Take too little? Not enough good effect. Take too much? The effects become at first less useful, then, with more additions, positively damaging.
This principle is called hormesis. Think of it as the diminishing returns for drugs. And it applies to all sorts of things.
Medical insurance, for example.
There are reasons why third-party (“insurance”) payments are something we tend to prefer. Super-convenient. But the convenience comes at a cost, as mounting evidence makes quite clear: insurance (and other third-party payers) that remunerate doctors and hospitals directly is what’s driving much of the price inflation in this sector.
Automobile insurance overwhelmingly pays the insurer, and we have no crisis at all in this insured sector.
Paul Jacob
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James Padolsey
I'm a freelance web developer based in Hampton, UK. I write about and enjoy front-end web development. Most of what I write focuses on my favorite topic, JavaScript! To read my blog or find out more about me please visit my site!
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!!The TV series
* The finale has several of them.
** It was the highest rated piece of television for more than ten years, until [[Series/{{Dallas}} "Who shot JR?"]]
!!The movie
* The first Kimble Gerard standoff.
-->'''Kimble''': ''I didn't kill my wife!''
-->'''Gerard''': ''[[ThrowItIn I don't care]]!''
* When Kimble [[spoiler:calls out Nichols for everything bad that has happened in the movie in front of a convention made was fist-pumpingly awesome.]]
** And then caps it off by opening a can of WHUPASS on him.
* "There's a man back there in a blue coat waving a gun and screaming. ...At a woman."
** Doubles as a CrowningMomentOfFunny in the midst of all this nail-biting tension when Gerard comes running around the corner, screaming "STOP THAT MAN!", and the officers, thanks to what Kimble has told them, do exactly what they're trained to do and restrain ''Gerard''.
* The train wreck sequence. Audiences went to see the film just for ''that scene''.
* When Kimble is trapped by Gerard at the edge of the dam. His choices are to 1) get handcuffed and dragged to jail to sit on death row or 2) jump. He jumps.
* When Kimble beats the crap out of Sykes, the man who killed his wife, and [[spoiler:his so called friend Nichols who set the whole thing in motion.]]
--> '''Kimble''': [[BondOneLiner You missed your stop!]]
* The entire hotel sequence, from start to finish.
* It's a little behind the scenes, but the fact that, in real life, HarrisonFord got a painful bone spur early in filming but held off getting it fixed so he'd have an authentic limp as Richard Kimble is a CMOA for him.
* Gerard's {{Establishing Character Moment}}, getting the guard on the bus to admit that Kimble might have survived just minutes after his arrival.
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'''''Anonymous''''' is a 2011 historical drama from director Creator/RolandEmmerich. Like many of Emmerich's films, it revolves around fringe conspiracy theories and features a major world landmark being destroyed, even if it isn't a disaster movie like his previous work. It's based on the conspiracy theory that Creator/WilliamShakespeare did not author his plays, but was given them by the Earl of Oxford, Edward de Vere.
Not to be confused with [[Tropers/{{Anonymous}} the web vigilante group]].
!! The film invokes the following tropes:
* AlternateHistory: The premise of the film is that Shakespeare never wrote his own plays, instead attributing them to Edward De Vere, the Earl of Oxford. The makers of the film, however, [[ConspiracyTheorist don't think that it's an "alternate" history.]]
** Also, that Queen Elizabeth was not a virgin but had several bastard children. [[spoiler:[[RefugeInAudacity And that Edward De Vere was her bastard son]] [[IncestIsRelative who she then had sex with.]] Who fathered ''another'' one of the Queen's bastards.]]
* AnachronicOrder: Kyle Kallgren at ''Webvideo/BrowsHeldHigh'' [[http://chezapocalypse.com/episodes/shakespeare-month-anonymous/ points out]] that this was probably done to stop the audience from noticing that the internal chronology of the film is both self-contradictory and flies in the face of almost all historical data.
* AncientConspiracy: To cover up the fact that Shakespeare never wrote his own plays... [[spoiler: and also that Edward De Vere was the child of Queen Elizabeth, as well as [[ParentalIncest the father of another one of her children.]]]]
* AnonymousAuthor: Edward, before Shakespeare starts taking credit for his plays.
* ArrangedMarriage: Between Edward and William Cecil's daughter.
* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Creator/DerekJacobi appears in the beginning to admit that the story is just an intellectual exercise, not hard history.
** The chronology is ''completely'' wrong. ''Theater/{{Macbeth}}'' is performed before ''Theater/{{Hamlet}}''. ''Macbeth'' is widely considered to be a rather late production by Shakespeare, and directly references King James I (who ascends to the throne at the end of the film).
** Also, Creator/ChristopherMarlowe figures out that Edward is writing the plays, because he realises that the character of Polonius in ''Hamlet'' is meant to signify William Cecil, so Shakespeare [[spoiler:murders Marlowe]] to prevent the truth from getting out. ''Hamlet'' was first performed in 1601 (1598 in the film.) '' '''MARLOWE DIED IN 1593.''' '' You see the problem here?
** The portrayal of [[UsefulNotes/RichardIII Richard III]] as an EvilCripple wasn't Shakespeare's invention: it appears as "[[BasedOnAGreatBigLie fact]]" in Polydore Vergil's ''Anglica Historia'', published in 1534 - over a decade before the births of both Edward and Shakespeare.
** Cecil was actually ''against'' Elizabeth naming James of Scotland as her successor, and for very good reason: it was Cecil, more than anyone else, who'd convinced Elizabeth to execute James's mother, Mary, Queen of Scots.
** Surprisingly, the Earl of Essex DID hire Shakespeare to stage a play about King Richard in order to incite a riot so he could seize the throne. However, rather than ''Theatre/{{Richard III}}'', as shown in the movie, the play was ''Theatre/{{Richard II}}''. Which makes sense, as ''Richard II'' is about a noble earl who does his solemn duty and deposes a corrupt and decadent monarch, whereas ''Richard III'' is about how wonderful Queen Elizabeth's family is, and isn't it ''great'' that they're in charge now?
** At one point, De Vere waxes would-be-profound on the Tudor Rose... while holding one. There is not and never has been an actual biological Tudor Rose; it's purely symbolic, combining the Red Rose of the House of Lancaster and the White Rose of the House Of York. To posit that such a flower actually existed betrays a ''total'' lack of understanding by the production team.
* BeethovenWasAnAlienSpy: William Shakespeare was actually a patsy for Edward De Vere, allowing him to publish poetry without affronting his aristocratic family.
* BrickJoke: Ben Johnson complains that Essex's writing is just a passing hobby, saying "Last week it's gardening, now it's plays, next week it will be falconry!" Later, when Shakespeare is in Essex's study, there is a hooded falcon perched off to the side.
* CoitusInterruptus: At one point, Shakespeare is interrupted while having sex with a prostitute.
* DownerEnding: The fraudulent Shakespeare winds up taking credit for all of De Vere's work, De Vere is a failure as both a playwright and a human being, and Elizabeth dies without a legitimate heir, marking the end of the Tudor line.
* EvilChancellor: William and Robert Cecil.
* HistoricalDomainCharacter: Most of the characters in the film, obviously. The ones with their own page on TV Tropes could be mentioned: Creator/WilliamShakespeare, Creator/ChristopherMarlowe and UsefulNotes/ElizabethI.
* HistoricalFiction: Although not everyone [[ConspiracyTheorist thinks it's fiction.]]
* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: The Cecils, as well as William Shakespeare himself.
* HowWeGotHere
* TheHouseOfTudor: Queen Elizabeth herself plays a large role in the events of the film.
* LargeHam: Shakespeare himself is one of the bigger offenders, although several of the actors ham it up throughout the film.
* ParentalAbandonment: [[spoiler: Queen Elizabeth gives birth to Edward out of wedlock, then gives him up to be raised by the Duke of Oxford to avoid a scandal.]]
* ParentalIncest: [[spoiler: Edward De Vere sleeps with Queen Elizabeth, who is secretly his mother. And [[{{Squick}} she gets pregnant]] from their coupling.]]
* ReallyGetsAround: Queen UsefulNotes/ElizabethI (hilariously enough).
* SuccessionCrisis: With Queen Elizabeth old and having no legitimate children, the Cecils want James of Scotland to take the throne of England after her death. Edward wants it to go to the Earl of Essex.
* SurpriseIncest: Between [[spoiler: Edward and Elizabeth, his mother.]]
* UsefulNotes/ElizabethI : She is ''The Virgin Queen'' InNameOnly, if [[AnythingThatMoves the film is to be believed.]]
* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory[=/=]BasedOnAGreatBigLie: Depends on whether you're a Stratfordian or Anti-stratfordian.
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Analysis: Gambit 508
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Analysis: Punch Clock Villain
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Analysis: Ship Sinking
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Awesome: Trail Of Glory
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Characters: Attack on Titan
Information available for public disclosure on the cast of Attack on Titan.
Due to the nature of the series, the character pages contain heavy spoilers. Those who are only watching the anime should not read these pages.
• The 104th Trainee Corps note
• The Survey Corps note
• The Military Police Brigade note
• The Garrison note
• Titans note
• Others note
• Before The Fall note
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Es: Gainax Ending
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Fridge: Thief of Time
Fridge Brilliance: At the very beginning, Death watches the birth and wonders if that's what the problem was, or what the solution is going to be. A following exchange occurs:
Death of Rats: Squeak.
Death: Quite so. You may very well be right.
• Only during the second reading, one can understand what the Death of Rats meant: "Both."
• It's also Fridge Brilliance that Death only saw Wen fetching Nanny Ogg, not the actual birth. Not only does this conceal the fact that Lobsang and Jeremy are the same person, but it also hides how Death, himself, can't actually see Lobsang.
• How do Susan and Myria/Unity kill Auditors by the score? Chocolate. You might consider it, even, a genocidal tactic. Back in Soul Music, what did Susan's inner monologue name as her mother's favorite dish? Genocide by Chocolate.
• Meta-example: When you read Night Watch, then go back to Thief of Time and realize that the entire section which occurs while time is stopped was happening simultaneously with Vimes' and Carcer's jump back to the past.
• Lu-Tze claims that the word "ninja" is Agatean for "the breaking wind". In other words, they're silent but deadly.
Fridge Logic:
• It's implied that Jeremy attacked a clockmaker because he set his clock five minutes fast. Seems legit. But it's also established that Jeremy owns a watch that runs about five seconds fast, so that he and other people are warned to cover their ears when his other clocks chime the hour. Given how many clocks he has and how accurate they are, also legit. But isn't keeping a watch set five seconds fast hypocritical after attacking someone who set it fast as well?
• I've always interpreted that as his alarm being set early. Like 7:59 instead of 8:00. As long as it's telling time accurately and going off at the correct time, Jeremy's okay with it.
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Funny: The Crossing
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Heartwarming: Meet Joe Black
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Design Compromise
What they planned.
How it turned out.
Bob is going to build the best tree house ever, it's going to have turrets, rope bridges, and a lift. He's already designed the whole thing in his head, now he just needs to get the materials...
Unfortunately for Bob, his ideas prove unrealistic. If he's lucky, he ends up with a basic tree house with a rope ladder.
This is a trope about initial ideas and grandiose plans than ultimately are unattainable in real life.
A good way of showing this is holding the plans in front of the camera and then lowering them to show the finished product.
This is present in the real world and fiction. One look at concept art for some computer games can have you asking, "Why isn't the finished game like that?" Lack of time, money and resources is usually the answer.
Could be seen as a specific form of What Could Have Been.
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Video Games
• The soldier digging in the book The War of the Worlds is planning on keeping civilisation alive underground. He managed to dig a small tunnel.
Western Animation
• On Arthur, this happens a couple of times. Once when they had to rebuild the treehouse, everybody had great plans but they ended up basically rebuilding it as it was before. And again when Grandma Thora gave Arthur and DW her attic to use as a clubhouse - Arthur wanted to make it into an adventure park and DW wanted to turn it into Mary Moocow-topia. Neither happened.
• The subversion of this trope is the entire point of the show Phineas and Ferb.
Real Life
• Happens all the time in construction projects, usually due to financial reasons. One example is the Currie building at the Royal Military College of Canada. The original plan was to build it as a replacement for the Mackenzie building. Construction began with part of the Currie building built against the Mackenzie building but the college ran out of funds to complete the project, so they left the Mackenzie building standing and joined the Mackenzie and Currie buildings together. The result is one larger building that looks somewhat disjointed, though the consistent architectural styles help to mitigate the effect somewhat.
• The famous cathedral of Notre Dame was originally supposed to have a massive central spire rising far above the two existing towers, which were meant to be far higher, as well.
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Visual Novel: Deus Machina Demonbane
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