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All the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.
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"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic."
] |
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Many food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.
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[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone."
] |
>
With the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.
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[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later."
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Really wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P
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[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes."
] |
>
Mandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.
Offer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.
You're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.
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[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P"
] |
>
Discussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.
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[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it."
] |
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What's the solution? No cars?
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[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life."
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What the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.
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[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?"
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Burning does destroy all microplastics.
What do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?
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[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash."
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Covid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.
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[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?"
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don't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.
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[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS."
] |
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What I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags
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[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years."
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Hmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something
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[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags"
] |
>
Well we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.
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[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something"
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Of course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising."
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With production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?
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[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal."
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My point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.
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[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?"
] |
>
Well, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business."
] |
>
Not at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic."
] |
>
I was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk."
] |
>
Ok so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic."
] |
>
Pandemic, lockdown and delivery.
Is that any surprise?
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance."
] |
>
Well ya, covid made everything single use.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?"
] |
>
But.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use."
] |
>
Guess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!"
] |
>
Yes, it did.
It's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.
Wonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years."
] |
>
On the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.
We absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐"
] |
>
We absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho
Oh absolutely, no argument there.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho"
] |
>
Pandemic.
It will go back down now:
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there."
] |
>
“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”
No it’s continuing to increase
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:"
] |
>
Are people surprised?
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase"
] |
>
Dining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe.
I don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening.
I also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?"
] |
>
Covid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage."
] |
>
The Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic "multi use" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE"
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shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's
So now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably."
] |
>
I don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.
We just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok"
] |
>
Not too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in."
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>
And For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues."
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>
I wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored….
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well."
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>
2020 they started putting all the produce in clamshells. Heck ya use went up.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.",
">\n\nI wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored…."
] |
>
it's weird but they dont look like clams at all
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.",
">\n\nI wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored….",
">\n\n2020 they started putting all the produce in clamshells. Heck ya use went up."
] |
>
There needs to be actual legislation for slack fill in products that is actually enforced.
Companies are getting egregious with using packaging to disguise the lower total weights of their products.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.",
">\n\nI wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored….",
">\n\n2020 they started putting all the produce in clamshells. Heck ya use went up.",
">\n\nit's weird but they dont look like clams at all"
] |
>
Pledges come from the first world
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.",
">\n\nI wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored….",
">\n\n2020 they started putting all the produce in clamshells. Heck ya use went up.",
">\n\nit's weird but they dont look like clams at all",
">\n\nThere needs to be actual legislation for slack fill in products that is actually enforced.\nCompanies are getting egregious with using packaging to disguise the lower total weights of their products."
] |
>
Not surprised. Been watching the trash pile up for 40 years folks and they've been talking about it all along.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.",
">\n\nI wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored….",
">\n\n2020 they started putting all the produce in clamshells. Heck ya use went up.",
">\n\nit's weird but they dont look like clams at all",
">\n\nThere needs to be actual legislation for slack fill in products that is actually enforced.\nCompanies are getting egregious with using packaging to disguise the lower total weights of their products.",
">\n\nPledges come from the first world"
] |
>
Micro plastics now found in our seafood. We are leaving behind quite a legacy for our children to clean up.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.",
">\n\nI wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored….",
">\n\n2020 they started putting all the produce in clamshells. Heck ya use went up.",
">\n\nit's weird but they dont look like clams at all",
">\n\nThere needs to be actual legislation for slack fill in products that is actually enforced.\nCompanies are getting egregious with using packaging to disguise the lower total weights of their products.",
">\n\nPledges come from the first world",
">\n\nNot surprised. Been watching the trash pile up for 40 years folks and they've been talking about it all along."
] |
>
I really doubt a little plastic in your seafood is going to kill you early. Not saying it's good, but we have bigger problems on earth. Id be more worried about the natural element mercury found in fish.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.",
">\n\nI wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored….",
">\n\n2020 they started putting all the produce in clamshells. Heck ya use went up.",
">\n\nit's weird but they dont look like clams at all",
">\n\nThere needs to be actual legislation for slack fill in products that is actually enforced.\nCompanies are getting egregious with using packaging to disguise the lower total weights of their products.",
">\n\nPledges come from the first world",
">\n\nNot surprised. Been watching the trash pile up for 40 years folks and they've been talking about it all along.",
">\n\nMicro plastics now found in our seafood. We are leaving behind quite a legacy for our children to clean up."
] |
>
The natural mercury isn´t worrying since it is only a couple of fish species that actually have enough to pose a risk to mostly pregnant people. It is worrying when a substance that shouldn´t naturally be there is found, we don´t know the long term effects of micro plastic but we know the effects of overconsumption of mercury.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.",
">\n\nI wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored….",
">\n\n2020 they started putting all the produce in clamshells. Heck ya use went up.",
">\n\nit's weird but they dont look like clams at all",
">\n\nThere needs to be actual legislation for slack fill in products that is actually enforced.\nCompanies are getting egregious with using packaging to disguise the lower total weights of their products.",
">\n\nPledges come from the first world",
">\n\nNot surprised. Been watching the trash pile up for 40 years folks and they've been talking about it all along.",
">\n\nMicro plastics now found in our seafood. We are leaving behind quite a legacy for our children to clean up.",
">\n\nI really doubt a little plastic in your seafood is going to kill you early. Not saying it's good, but we have bigger problems on earth. Id be more worried about the natural element mercury found in fish."
] |
>
my city voted to ban single use plastics. the state (florida), then sued us for it so we had to eliminate the ban
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.",
">\n\nI wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored….",
">\n\n2020 they started putting all the produce in clamshells. Heck ya use went up.",
">\n\nit's weird but they dont look like clams at all",
">\n\nThere needs to be actual legislation for slack fill in products that is actually enforced.\nCompanies are getting egregious with using packaging to disguise the lower total weights of their products.",
">\n\nPledges come from the first world",
">\n\nNot surprised. Been watching the trash pile up for 40 years folks and they've been talking about it all along.",
">\n\nMicro plastics now found in our seafood. We are leaving behind quite a legacy for our children to clean up.",
">\n\nI really doubt a little plastic in your seafood is going to kill you early. Not saying it's good, but we have bigger problems on earth. Id be more worried about the natural element mercury found in fish.",
">\n\nThe natural mercury isn´t worrying since it is only a couple of fish species that actually have enough to pose a risk to mostly pregnant people. It is worrying when a substance that shouldn´t naturally be there is found, we don´t know the long term effects of micro plastic but we know the effects of overconsumption of mercury."
] |
>
China has driven rapid growth in global plastic demand over the past 15 years. Despite high-profile bans on some single-use products starting in 2019, it also accounted for half of the 15 million tonnes of new capacity that came online over 2019-2021.
When a huge chunk of the world is still developing, we need to accept that steps the developed world takes can only do so much.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.",
">\n\nI wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored….",
">\n\n2020 they started putting all the produce in clamshells. Heck ya use went up.",
">\n\nit's weird but they dont look like clams at all",
">\n\nThere needs to be actual legislation for slack fill in products that is actually enforced.\nCompanies are getting egregious with using packaging to disguise the lower total weights of their products.",
">\n\nPledges come from the first world",
">\n\nNot surprised. Been watching the trash pile up for 40 years folks and they've been talking about it all along.",
">\n\nMicro plastics now found in our seafood. We are leaving behind quite a legacy for our children to clean up.",
">\n\nI really doubt a little plastic in your seafood is going to kill you early. Not saying it's good, but we have bigger problems on earth. Id be more worried about the natural element mercury found in fish.",
">\n\nThe natural mercury isn´t worrying since it is only a couple of fish species that actually have enough to pose a risk to mostly pregnant people. It is worrying when a substance that shouldn´t naturally be there is found, we don´t know the long term effects of micro plastic but we know the effects of overconsumption of mercury.",
">\n\nmy city voted to ban single use plastics. the state (florida), then sued us for it so we had to eliminate the ban"
] |
>
All those masks.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.",
">\n\nI wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored….",
">\n\n2020 they started putting all the produce in clamshells. Heck ya use went up.",
">\n\nit's weird but they dont look like clams at all",
">\n\nThere needs to be actual legislation for slack fill in products that is actually enforced.\nCompanies are getting egregious with using packaging to disguise the lower total weights of their products.",
">\n\nPledges come from the first world",
">\n\nNot surprised. Been watching the trash pile up for 40 years folks and they've been talking about it all along.",
">\n\nMicro plastics now found in our seafood. We are leaving behind quite a legacy for our children to clean up.",
">\n\nI really doubt a little plastic in your seafood is going to kill you early. Not saying it's good, but we have bigger problems on earth. Id be more worried about the natural element mercury found in fish.",
">\n\nThe natural mercury isn´t worrying since it is only a couple of fish species that actually have enough to pose a risk to mostly pregnant people. It is worrying when a substance that shouldn´t naturally be there is found, we don´t know the long term effects of micro plastic but we know the effects of overconsumption of mercury.",
">\n\nmy city voted to ban single use plastics. the state (florida), then sued us for it so we had to eliminate the ban",
">\n\n\nChina has driven rapid growth in global plastic demand over the past 15 years. Despite high-profile bans on some single-use products starting in 2019, it also accounted for half of the 15 million tonnes of new capacity that came online over 2019-2021.\n\nWhen a huge chunk of the world is still developing, we need to accept that steps the developed world takes can only do so much."
] |
>
Considering I have to buy a reusable bag every time I go to a store and then I throw out that your reusable bag because I have 45 unrecyclable reusable bags
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.",
">\n\nI wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored….",
">\n\n2020 they started putting all the produce in clamshells. Heck ya use went up.",
">\n\nit's weird but they dont look like clams at all",
">\n\nThere needs to be actual legislation for slack fill in products that is actually enforced.\nCompanies are getting egregious with using packaging to disguise the lower total weights of their products.",
">\n\nPledges come from the first world",
">\n\nNot surprised. Been watching the trash pile up for 40 years folks and they've been talking about it all along.",
">\n\nMicro plastics now found in our seafood. We are leaving behind quite a legacy for our children to clean up.",
">\n\nI really doubt a little plastic in your seafood is going to kill you early. Not saying it's good, but we have bigger problems on earth. Id be more worried about the natural element mercury found in fish.",
">\n\nThe natural mercury isn´t worrying since it is only a couple of fish species that actually have enough to pose a risk to mostly pregnant people. It is worrying when a substance that shouldn´t naturally be there is found, we don´t know the long term effects of micro plastic but we know the effects of overconsumption of mercury.",
">\n\nmy city voted to ban single use plastics. the state (florida), then sued us for it so we had to eliminate the ban",
">\n\n\nChina has driven rapid growth in global plastic demand over the past 15 years. Despite high-profile bans on some single-use products starting in 2019, it also accounted for half of the 15 million tonnes of new capacity that came online over 2019-2021.\n\nWhen a huge chunk of the world is still developing, we need to accept that steps the developed world takes can only do so much.",
">\n\nAll those masks."
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You're supposed to bring the reusable bags to the store.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.",
">\n\nI wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored….",
">\n\n2020 they started putting all the produce in clamshells. Heck ya use went up.",
">\n\nit's weird but they dont look like clams at all",
">\n\nThere needs to be actual legislation for slack fill in products that is actually enforced.\nCompanies are getting egregious with using packaging to disguise the lower total weights of their products.",
">\n\nPledges come from the first world",
">\n\nNot surprised. Been watching the trash pile up for 40 years folks and they've been talking about it all along.",
">\n\nMicro plastics now found in our seafood. We are leaving behind quite a legacy for our children to clean up.",
">\n\nI really doubt a little plastic in your seafood is going to kill you early. Not saying it's good, but we have bigger problems on earth. Id be more worried about the natural element mercury found in fish.",
">\n\nThe natural mercury isn´t worrying since it is only a couple of fish species that actually have enough to pose a risk to mostly pregnant people. It is worrying when a substance that shouldn´t naturally be there is found, we don´t know the long term effects of micro plastic but we know the effects of overconsumption of mercury.",
">\n\nmy city voted to ban single use plastics. the state (florida), then sued us for it so we had to eliminate the ban",
">\n\n\nChina has driven rapid growth in global plastic demand over the past 15 years. Despite high-profile bans on some single-use products starting in 2019, it also accounted for half of the 15 million tonnes of new capacity that came online over 2019-2021.\n\nWhen a huge chunk of the world is still developing, we need to accept that steps the developed world takes can only do so much.",
">\n\nAll those masks.",
">\n\nConsidering I have to buy a reusable bag every time I go to a store and then I throw out that your reusable bag because I have 45 unrecyclable reusable bags"
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And that’s why I have no faith that the human race will turn this around.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.",
">\n\nI wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored….",
">\n\n2020 they started putting all the produce in clamshells. Heck ya use went up.",
">\n\nit's weird but they dont look like clams at all",
">\n\nThere needs to be actual legislation for slack fill in products that is actually enforced.\nCompanies are getting egregious with using packaging to disguise the lower total weights of their products.",
">\n\nPledges come from the first world",
">\n\nNot surprised. Been watching the trash pile up for 40 years folks and they've been talking about it all along.",
">\n\nMicro plastics now found in our seafood. We are leaving behind quite a legacy for our children to clean up.",
">\n\nI really doubt a little plastic in your seafood is going to kill you early. Not saying it's good, but we have bigger problems on earth. Id be more worried about the natural element mercury found in fish.",
">\n\nThe natural mercury isn´t worrying since it is only a couple of fish species that actually have enough to pose a risk to mostly pregnant people. It is worrying when a substance that shouldn´t naturally be there is found, we don´t know the long term effects of micro plastic but we know the effects of overconsumption of mercury.",
">\n\nmy city voted to ban single use plastics. the state (florida), then sued us for it so we had to eliminate the ban",
">\n\n\nChina has driven rapid growth in global plastic demand over the past 15 years. Despite high-profile bans on some single-use products starting in 2019, it also accounted for half of the 15 million tonnes of new capacity that came online over 2019-2021.\n\nWhen a huge chunk of the world is still developing, we need to accept that steps the developed world takes can only do so much.",
">\n\nAll those masks.",
">\n\nConsidering I have to buy a reusable bag every time I go to a store and then I throw out that your reusable bag because I have 45 unrecyclable reusable bags",
">\n\nYou're supposed to bring the reusable bags to the store."
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Who do you think makes money on plastic
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[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.",
">\n\nI wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored….",
">\n\n2020 they started putting all the produce in clamshells. Heck ya use went up.",
">\n\nit's weird but they dont look like clams at all",
">\n\nThere needs to be actual legislation for slack fill in products that is actually enforced.\nCompanies are getting egregious with using packaging to disguise the lower total weights of their products.",
">\n\nPledges come from the first world",
">\n\nNot surprised. Been watching the trash pile up for 40 years folks and they've been talking about it all along.",
">\n\nMicro plastics now found in our seafood. We are leaving behind quite a legacy for our children to clean up.",
">\n\nI really doubt a little plastic in your seafood is going to kill you early. Not saying it's good, but we have bigger problems on earth. Id be more worried about the natural element mercury found in fish.",
">\n\nThe natural mercury isn´t worrying since it is only a couple of fish species that actually have enough to pose a risk to mostly pregnant people. It is worrying when a substance that shouldn´t naturally be there is found, we don´t know the long term effects of micro plastic but we know the effects of overconsumption of mercury.",
">\n\nmy city voted to ban single use plastics. the state (florida), then sued us for it so we had to eliminate the ban",
">\n\n\nChina has driven rapid growth in global plastic demand over the past 15 years. Despite high-profile bans on some single-use products starting in 2019, it also accounted for half of the 15 million tonnes of new capacity that came online over 2019-2021.\n\nWhen a huge chunk of the world is still developing, we need to accept that steps the developed world takes can only do so much.",
">\n\nAll those masks.",
">\n\nConsidering I have to buy a reusable bag every time I go to a store and then I throw out that your reusable bag because I have 45 unrecyclable reusable bags",
">\n\nYou're supposed to bring the reusable bags to the store.",
">\n\nAnd that’s why I have no faith that the human race will turn this around."
] |
>
Credit card companies
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.",
">\n\nI wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored….",
">\n\n2020 they started putting all the produce in clamshells. Heck ya use went up.",
">\n\nit's weird but they dont look like clams at all",
">\n\nThere needs to be actual legislation for slack fill in products that is actually enforced.\nCompanies are getting egregious with using packaging to disguise the lower total weights of their products.",
">\n\nPledges come from the first world",
">\n\nNot surprised. Been watching the trash pile up for 40 years folks and they've been talking about it all along.",
">\n\nMicro plastics now found in our seafood. We are leaving behind quite a legacy for our children to clean up.",
">\n\nI really doubt a little plastic in your seafood is going to kill you early. Not saying it's good, but we have bigger problems on earth. Id be more worried about the natural element mercury found in fish.",
">\n\nThe natural mercury isn´t worrying since it is only a couple of fish species that actually have enough to pose a risk to mostly pregnant people. It is worrying when a substance that shouldn´t naturally be there is found, we don´t know the long term effects of micro plastic but we know the effects of overconsumption of mercury.",
">\n\nmy city voted to ban single use plastics. the state (florida), then sued us for it so we had to eliminate the ban",
">\n\n\nChina has driven rapid growth in global plastic demand over the past 15 years. Despite high-profile bans on some single-use products starting in 2019, it also accounted for half of the 15 million tonnes of new capacity that came online over 2019-2021.\n\nWhen a huge chunk of the world is still developing, we need to accept that steps the developed world takes can only do so much.",
">\n\nAll those masks.",
">\n\nConsidering I have to buy a reusable bag every time I go to a store and then I throw out that your reusable bag because I have 45 unrecyclable reusable bags",
">\n\nYou're supposed to bring the reusable bags to the store.",
">\n\nAnd that’s why I have no faith that the human race will turn this around.",
">\n\nWho do you think makes money on plastic"
] |
>
They got rid of single use grocery bags and replaced them with bags that take 100x longer to degrade.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.",
">\n\nI wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored….",
">\n\n2020 they started putting all the produce in clamshells. Heck ya use went up.",
">\n\nit's weird but they dont look like clams at all",
">\n\nThere needs to be actual legislation for slack fill in products that is actually enforced.\nCompanies are getting egregious with using packaging to disguise the lower total weights of their products.",
">\n\nPledges come from the first world",
">\n\nNot surprised. Been watching the trash pile up for 40 years folks and they've been talking about it all along.",
">\n\nMicro plastics now found in our seafood. We are leaving behind quite a legacy for our children to clean up.",
">\n\nI really doubt a little plastic in your seafood is going to kill you early. Not saying it's good, but we have bigger problems on earth. Id be more worried about the natural element mercury found in fish.",
">\n\nThe natural mercury isn´t worrying since it is only a couple of fish species that actually have enough to pose a risk to mostly pregnant people. It is worrying when a substance that shouldn´t naturally be there is found, we don´t know the long term effects of micro plastic but we know the effects of overconsumption of mercury.",
">\n\nmy city voted to ban single use plastics. the state (florida), then sued us for it so we had to eliminate the ban",
">\n\n\nChina has driven rapid growth in global plastic demand over the past 15 years. Despite high-profile bans on some single-use products starting in 2019, it also accounted for half of the 15 million tonnes of new capacity that came online over 2019-2021.\n\nWhen a huge chunk of the world is still developing, we need to accept that steps the developed world takes can only do so much.",
">\n\nAll those masks.",
">\n\nConsidering I have to buy a reusable bag every time I go to a store and then I throw out that your reusable bag because I have 45 unrecyclable reusable bags",
">\n\nYou're supposed to bring the reusable bags to the store.",
">\n\nAnd that’s why I have no faith that the human race will turn this around.",
">\n\nWho do you think makes money on plastic",
">\n\nCredit card companies"
] |
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End GiftCards!
Such a scam to force people to spend more than given, leave remaining change on them or forget about using them entirely till they expire. Also, many you can't recharge and tossed out. Look at all the stores lined with these. Single Use Plastic but I can't have bags to re-use for waste or carrying other items.
|
[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.",
">\n\nI wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored….",
">\n\n2020 they started putting all the produce in clamshells. Heck ya use went up.",
">\n\nit's weird but they dont look like clams at all",
">\n\nThere needs to be actual legislation for slack fill in products that is actually enforced.\nCompanies are getting egregious with using packaging to disguise the lower total weights of their products.",
">\n\nPledges come from the first world",
">\n\nNot surprised. Been watching the trash pile up for 40 years folks and they've been talking about it all along.",
">\n\nMicro plastics now found in our seafood. We are leaving behind quite a legacy for our children to clean up.",
">\n\nI really doubt a little plastic in your seafood is going to kill you early. Not saying it's good, but we have bigger problems on earth. Id be more worried about the natural element mercury found in fish.",
">\n\nThe natural mercury isn´t worrying since it is only a couple of fish species that actually have enough to pose a risk to mostly pregnant people. It is worrying when a substance that shouldn´t naturally be there is found, we don´t know the long term effects of micro plastic but we know the effects of overconsumption of mercury.",
">\n\nmy city voted to ban single use plastics. the state (florida), then sued us for it so we had to eliminate the ban",
">\n\n\nChina has driven rapid growth in global plastic demand over the past 15 years. Despite high-profile bans on some single-use products starting in 2019, it also accounted for half of the 15 million tonnes of new capacity that came online over 2019-2021.\n\nWhen a huge chunk of the world is still developing, we need to accept that steps the developed world takes can only do so much.",
">\n\nAll those masks.",
">\n\nConsidering I have to buy a reusable bag every time I go to a store and then I throw out that your reusable bag because I have 45 unrecyclable reusable bags",
">\n\nYou're supposed to bring the reusable bags to the store.",
">\n\nAnd that’s why I have no faith that the human race will turn this around.",
">\n\nWho do you think makes money on plastic",
">\n\nCredit card companies",
">\n\nThey got rid of single use grocery bags and replaced them with bags that take 100x longer to degrade."
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Someone gave $20 blockbuster gift card for Christmas this year. it expired in 2005. Now I'll never go to Oregon! DAMN YOU GIFT CARDS!
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[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.",
">\n\nI wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored….",
">\n\n2020 they started putting all the produce in clamshells. Heck ya use went up.",
">\n\nit's weird but they dont look like clams at all",
">\n\nThere needs to be actual legislation for slack fill in products that is actually enforced.\nCompanies are getting egregious with using packaging to disguise the lower total weights of their products.",
">\n\nPledges come from the first world",
">\n\nNot surprised. Been watching the trash pile up for 40 years folks and they've been talking about it all along.",
">\n\nMicro plastics now found in our seafood. We are leaving behind quite a legacy for our children to clean up.",
">\n\nI really doubt a little plastic in your seafood is going to kill you early. Not saying it's good, but we have bigger problems on earth. Id be more worried about the natural element mercury found in fish.",
">\n\nThe natural mercury isn´t worrying since it is only a couple of fish species that actually have enough to pose a risk to mostly pregnant people. It is worrying when a substance that shouldn´t naturally be there is found, we don´t know the long term effects of micro plastic but we know the effects of overconsumption of mercury.",
">\n\nmy city voted to ban single use plastics. the state (florida), then sued us for it so we had to eliminate the ban",
">\n\n\nChina has driven rapid growth in global plastic demand over the past 15 years. Despite high-profile bans on some single-use products starting in 2019, it also accounted for half of the 15 million tonnes of new capacity that came online over 2019-2021.\n\nWhen a huge chunk of the world is still developing, we need to accept that steps the developed world takes can only do so much.",
">\n\nAll those masks.",
">\n\nConsidering I have to buy a reusable bag every time I go to a store and then I throw out that your reusable bag because I have 45 unrecyclable reusable bags",
">\n\nYou're supposed to bring the reusable bags to the store.",
">\n\nAnd that’s why I have no faith that the human race will turn this around.",
">\n\nWho do you think makes money on plastic",
">\n\nCredit card companies",
">\n\nThey got rid of single use grocery bags and replaced them with bags that take 100x longer to degrade.",
">\n\nEnd GiftCards!\nSuch a scam to force people to spend more than given, leave remaining change on them or forget about using them entirely till they expire. Also, many you can't recharge and tossed out. Look at all the stores lined with these. Single Use Plastic but I can't have bags to re-use for waste or carrying other items."
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[
"This title could also be “Disposable product use skyrocketed during pandemic”.",
">\n\nYeah I bet a large amount of it has to do with gloves, laboratory pipettes, the at-home test covid test kits, people doing more take home with plastic utensils vs eating in with metal utensils, etc.\nCompanies that can make use of paper packaging have been trying to shift away from plastic.",
">\n\nAll the PPE and all the takeout and delivery groceries would have been huge contributors. I’ve still got single use utensils and bags from 2020 and I imagine I’m not alone.",
">\n\nMany food places in my State transitioned to plant based plastic type of containers during the transition away from styrofoam as actual biodegradable friendly alternatives were not widely available. I got a stack of containers surviving no problem in the dishwasher two years later.",
">\n\nWith the current inflation based shrinking of products this will only get worse. Food items are becoming a higher package to food ratio right before our eyes.",
">\n\nReally wishing we could reverse this somehow, but that's the catch - how. :P",
">\n\nMandate a tax in ratio to the package size, shape, weight, and ease of being recyled.\nOffer recycling cash back paid by the new tax.\nYou're welcome politicans, now just fucking do it.",
">\n\nDiscussions on banning single-use plastics are mostly a distraction to help corporate polluters. Most people are ignorant of the ratio on commercial pollution and consumer pollution. Just look at the mountains of car tires that get burned each year. That single tire weighs way more than all the plastic bags and straws you'll ever use in your life.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution? No cars?",
">\n\nWhat the fuck? No. Make companies pay more to dispose of trash.",
">\n\nBurning does destroy all microplastics.\nWhat do you propose that destroys microplastics? Is there even a way to do that that and capture the pollutants?",
">\n\nCovid19 => much more food orders/deliveries to home => more plastic BS.",
">\n\ndon't forget all the single-use gloves in groceries. I used more plastic in 2020 than in my other 40 years.",
">\n\nWhat I haven't seen for some reason is that, at least where I am, we had recently made the switch to reusable plastic grocery bags before covid. Then covid hit and grocery stores were not allowing the reuse of said bags. So we all were not only switching back to single use plastic bags for groceries, but those bags had much more plastic than the old single use plastic bags",
">\n\nHmmm, its like there is a huge pandemic or something",
">\n\nWell we also went through a pandemic which required a lot of plastics to keep items and the public sanitary. I’m sure the numbers from 2021-2023 will be a better outlook, but still rising.",
">\n\nOf course it did. Business will do what works for their bottom line. Unless a change has a force of law, it won't become universal.",
">\n\nWith production of plastic costing almost nothing; why would they change?",
">\n\nMy point exactly. Self-interest always wins over public interest in business.",
">\n\nWell, yea. Everyone was staying at home ordering fuck tons of take out during the pandemic.",
">\n\nNot at all surprised. In my country we have banned single use plastic bags for shopping. Yet since that ban has gone into place there is now far more vegetables and fresh fruit that is wrapped in plastic. What gets me is the blame for plastic pollution is always placed squarely at the feet of consumers yet it is not the consumers wanting extra plastic to wrap around fresh corn on the cob still in the husk.",
">\n\nI was watching MASH not too long ago and noticed there was virtually no plastic in any of the props. You see glass, aluminum, probably tin, canvas, wood, all kinds of other easily disposable items but almost no plastic. Keep in mind the show was cancelled in the 80’s but it’s amazing to me how much it’s changed in my lifetime. Surely there’s a way to incentivize a move away from single-use plastic.",
">\n\nOk so this is bad, and we’re all clearly galloping towards a cliff and destroying ourselves, but is it weird that this “2019-2021” increase, at least in the article, doesn’t mention COVID at all? Like, I pledged to do a lot of stuff in 2018 that I sure didn’t do, and we all know the increase in demand for single use stuff when take away and online become our de facto way to consume. It’s certainly worth saying, I just think it lacks some nuance.",
">\n\nPandemic, lockdown and delivery. \nIs that any surprise?",
">\n\nWell ya, covid made everything single use.",
">\n\nBut.. but we stopped using plastic straws! Why?!",
">\n\nGuess we can expect more plastic landfills forming for the next few years.",
">\n\nYes, it did.\nIt's almost like there was a world-wide event that happened that made it so that people were ordering stuff to be brought to their houses, instead of going out to get stuff.\nWonder what that worldwide event could have been?? 🤔🧐",
">\n\nOn the other hand the uncomfortable fact is: barring coast to coast air mail, ordering to your house is usually more sustainable than going out for it, unless you live somewhere that you can get the items via walking/public transit (aka not most Americans. Even in cities large stores are often poorly located). The break even for a 5 mile round trip vs online ordering is somewhere around a dozen items.\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho",
">\n\n\nWe absolutely need to hold retailers accountable for greener shipping practices and recyclable packaging tho\n\nOh absolutely, no argument there.",
">\n\nPandemic.\nIt will go back down now:",
">\n\n“Around 137 million tonnes of single-use plastics were produced from fossil fuels in 2021, and it is expected to rise by another 17 million tonnes by 2027, the researchers said.”\nNo it’s continuing to increase",
">\n\nAre people surprised?",
">\n\nDining in restaurants absolutely cratered in the specified timeframe. \nI don't mean to say that this isn't a problem, but I do think there is a reasonable explanation for it happening. \nI also think it needs to be repeated at every opportunity that recycling does not solve the problem of plastic usage.",
">\n\nCovid kind of did that too.. all the take out , PPE",
">\n\nThe Washington state Bag ban that required anyone wanting bags to pay per bag and get a shitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's, or a super thick plastic \"multi use\" bag just made us throw away MORE plastic than if they hadn't put that shitty legislation in place. Especially doing so during a pandemic when Bring your own shopping bags were proven to harbor more bacteria and viruses on their handles. People just throw away and use the same amount of bags, only now the density increased 8 fold so the amount of plastic in the landfill increased appreciably.",
">\n\n\nshitty paper bag worse than the ones from the 1990's\n\nSo now where I am in Canada they're phasing out the bags and some places like Safeway it's just paper bags. The problem is in the self checkout you can't use one of them without tripping the REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM BAGGING AREA thing and so you're left pissed off waiting for a rep to reassure the computer that it's ok",
">\n\nI don't know about others but the longer I live the more convinced I am that our civilization will simply destroy itself and it'll happen much sooner than people think.\nWe just won't even think about doing something until it will be far too late. How many decades have we known about all the climate issues and yet no-one is doing anything because comfort is more important than the world we live in.",
">\n\nNot too surprising with how COVID changed the restaurant industry, a lot more take out/delivery orders still, some places here are still using single use for dine in because cost/staffing issues.",
">\n\nAnd For some reason Wal-greens prescription bags used to be paper have recently changed to plastic, and they started giving out much larger plastic pill containers as well.",
">\n\nI wonder if there was some sort of economic incentive that could be put in place if the pledges would be more likely to be honored….",
">\n\n2020 they started putting all the produce in clamshells. Heck ya use went up.",
">\n\nit's weird but they dont look like clams at all",
">\n\nThere needs to be actual legislation for slack fill in products that is actually enforced.\nCompanies are getting egregious with using packaging to disguise the lower total weights of their products.",
">\n\nPledges come from the first world",
">\n\nNot surprised. Been watching the trash pile up for 40 years folks and they've been talking about it all along.",
">\n\nMicro plastics now found in our seafood. We are leaving behind quite a legacy for our children to clean up.",
">\n\nI really doubt a little plastic in your seafood is going to kill you early. Not saying it's good, but we have bigger problems on earth. Id be more worried about the natural element mercury found in fish.",
">\n\nThe natural mercury isn´t worrying since it is only a couple of fish species that actually have enough to pose a risk to mostly pregnant people. It is worrying when a substance that shouldn´t naturally be there is found, we don´t know the long term effects of micro plastic but we know the effects of overconsumption of mercury.",
">\n\nmy city voted to ban single use plastics. the state (florida), then sued us for it so we had to eliminate the ban",
">\n\n\nChina has driven rapid growth in global plastic demand over the past 15 years. Despite high-profile bans on some single-use products starting in 2019, it also accounted for half of the 15 million tonnes of new capacity that came online over 2019-2021.\n\nWhen a huge chunk of the world is still developing, we need to accept that steps the developed world takes can only do so much.",
">\n\nAll those masks.",
">\n\nConsidering I have to buy a reusable bag every time I go to a store and then I throw out that your reusable bag because I have 45 unrecyclable reusable bags",
">\n\nYou're supposed to bring the reusable bags to the store.",
">\n\nAnd that’s why I have no faith that the human race will turn this around.",
">\n\nWho do you think makes money on plastic",
">\n\nCredit card companies",
">\n\nThey got rid of single use grocery bags and replaced them with bags that take 100x longer to degrade.",
">\n\nEnd GiftCards!\nSuch a scam to force people to spend more than given, leave remaining change on them or forget about using them entirely till they expire. Also, many you can't recharge and tossed out. Look at all the stores lined with these. Single Use Plastic but I can't have bags to re-use for waste or carrying other items.",
">\n\nSomeone gave $20 blockbuster gift card for Christmas this year. it expired in 2005. Now I'll never go to Oregon! DAMN YOU GIFT CARDS!"
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I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.
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Thier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store
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"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever."
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That's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.
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"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store"
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A lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range
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"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours."
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Good for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!
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"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range"
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When government ignore people's need strike is their only option.
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"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!"
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Well, it’s certainly their most reasonable option
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[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option."
] |
>
Why must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?
It is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.
All that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.
Almost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.
Wake up folks.
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option"
] |
>
The top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks."
] |
>
I'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.
Most of the worlds population is extremely poor.
Edit:
To be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.
Median income of world is 1 225 usd a year
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead."
] |
>
1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year"
] |
>
Yes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK."
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He literally said: "While most of us lost money during the pandemic".
That should be plenty to go about.
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world."
] |
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But we banged those pots and pans..
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about."
] |
>
So those nurses need to shut up now and get back to work! We showed our support! Now I need to get back to reading the Sun and voting for the next Eton graduate..
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about.",
">\n\nBut we banged those pots and pans.."
] |
>
What happens now?
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about.",
">\n\nBut we banged those pots and pans..",
">\n\nSo those nurses need to shut up now and get back to work! We showed our support! Now I need to get back to reading the Sun and voting for the next Eton graduate.."
] |
>
The state will try to break or wait out the strike. Either the strike breaks and fails or the government is forced to put more money into the system.
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about.",
">\n\nBut we banged those pots and pans..",
">\n\nSo those nurses need to shut up now and get back to work! We showed our support! Now I need to get back to reading the Sun and voting for the next Eton graduate..",
">\n\nWhat happens now?"
] |
>
Brexit has been terrible for the UK.
And the only people who seem to be shocked are the Brexiters.
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about.",
">\n\nBut we banged those pots and pans..",
">\n\nSo those nurses need to shut up now and get back to work! We showed our support! Now I need to get back to reading the Sun and voting for the next Eton graduate..",
">\n\nWhat happens now?",
">\n\nThe state will try to break or wait out the strike. Either the strike breaks and fails or the government is forced to put more money into the system."
] |
>
Infuriating that most of them won't be around to suffer the long term consequences of their vote. I wonder what percent are already dead? Pretty weak.
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about.",
">\n\nBut we banged those pots and pans..",
">\n\nSo those nurses need to shut up now and get back to work! We showed our support! Now I need to get back to reading the Sun and voting for the next Eton graduate..",
">\n\nWhat happens now?",
">\n\nThe state will try to break or wait out the strike. Either the strike breaks and fails or the government is forced to put more money into the system.",
">\n\nBrexit has been terrible for the UK.\nAnd the only people who seem to be shocked are the Brexiters."
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They'd hang around longer if they hadn't managed to crater the NHS so badly.
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about.",
">\n\nBut we banged those pots and pans..",
">\n\nSo those nurses need to shut up now and get back to work! We showed our support! Now I need to get back to reading the Sun and voting for the next Eton graduate..",
">\n\nWhat happens now?",
">\n\nThe state will try to break or wait out the strike. Either the strike breaks and fails or the government is forced to put more money into the system.",
">\n\nBrexit has been terrible for the UK.\nAnd the only people who seem to be shocked are the Brexiters.",
">\n\nInfuriating that most of them won't be around to suffer the long term consequences of their vote. I wonder what percent are already dead? Pretty weak."
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>
Looking at most of the older Brits I see on holiday in other countries I would honestly doubt that even. I haven't seen such grossly overweight and generally unhealthy looking people since I left the USA. What are they feeding these people?
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about.",
">\n\nBut we banged those pots and pans..",
">\n\nSo those nurses need to shut up now and get back to work! We showed our support! Now I need to get back to reading the Sun and voting for the next Eton graduate..",
">\n\nWhat happens now?",
">\n\nThe state will try to break or wait out the strike. Either the strike breaks and fails or the government is forced to put more money into the system.",
">\n\nBrexit has been terrible for the UK.\nAnd the only people who seem to be shocked are the Brexiters.",
">\n\nInfuriating that most of them won't be around to suffer the long term consequences of their vote. I wonder what percent are already dead? Pretty weak.",
">\n\nThey'd hang around longer if they hadn't managed to crater the NHS so badly."
] |
>
Macca's and Vindaloos.
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about.",
">\n\nBut we banged those pots and pans..",
">\n\nSo those nurses need to shut up now and get back to work! We showed our support! Now I need to get back to reading the Sun and voting for the next Eton graduate..",
">\n\nWhat happens now?",
">\n\nThe state will try to break or wait out the strike. Either the strike breaks and fails or the government is forced to put more money into the system.",
">\n\nBrexit has been terrible for the UK.\nAnd the only people who seem to be shocked are the Brexiters.",
">\n\nInfuriating that most of them won't be around to suffer the long term consequences of their vote. I wonder what percent are already dead? Pretty weak.",
">\n\nThey'd hang around longer if they hadn't managed to crater the NHS so badly.",
">\n\nLooking at most of the older Brits I see on holiday in other countries I would honestly doubt that even. I haven't seen such grossly overweight and generally unhealthy looking people since I left the USA. What are they feeding these people?"
] |
>
The big red buss was a lie
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about.",
">\n\nBut we banged those pots and pans..",
">\n\nSo those nurses need to shut up now and get back to work! We showed our support! Now I need to get back to reading the Sun and voting for the next Eton graduate..",
">\n\nWhat happens now?",
">\n\nThe state will try to break or wait out the strike. Either the strike breaks and fails or the government is forced to put more money into the system.",
">\n\nBrexit has been terrible for the UK.\nAnd the only people who seem to be shocked are the Brexiters.",
">\n\nInfuriating that most of them won't be around to suffer the long term consequences of their vote. I wonder what percent are already dead? Pretty weak.",
">\n\nThey'd hang around longer if they hadn't managed to crater the NHS so badly.",
">\n\nLooking at most of the older Brits I see on holiday in other countries I would honestly doubt that even. I haven't seen such grossly overweight and generally unhealthy looking people since I left the USA. What are they feeding these people?",
">\n\nMacca's and Vindaloos."
] |
>
It’s hilarious how the conservatives mobilised the public into “coming out for the NHS” and giving them all rounds of applauds during covid, but now when they are done dying and breaking themselves over and over, there sure as hell won’t be any money for them.
And the people fall for it like clockwork.
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about.",
">\n\nBut we banged those pots and pans..",
">\n\nSo those nurses need to shut up now and get back to work! We showed our support! Now I need to get back to reading the Sun and voting for the next Eton graduate..",
">\n\nWhat happens now?",
">\n\nThe state will try to break or wait out the strike. Either the strike breaks and fails or the government is forced to put more money into the system.",
">\n\nBrexit has been terrible for the UK.\nAnd the only people who seem to be shocked are the Brexiters.",
">\n\nInfuriating that most of them won't be around to suffer the long term consequences of their vote. I wonder what percent are already dead? Pretty weak.",
">\n\nThey'd hang around longer if they hadn't managed to crater the NHS so badly.",
">\n\nLooking at most of the older Brits I see on holiday in other countries I would honestly doubt that even. I haven't seen such grossly overweight and generally unhealthy looking people since I left the USA. What are they feeding these people?",
">\n\nMacca's and Vindaloos.",
">\n\nThe big red buss was a lie"
] |
>
What were going to be the upsides of BREXIT again? Weren’t they going to save their NHS?
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about.",
">\n\nBut we banged those pots and pans..",
">\n\nSo those nurses need to shut up now and get back to work! We showed our support! Now I need to get back to reading the Sun and voting for the next Eton graduate..",
">\n\nWhat happens now?",
">\n\nThe state will try to break or wait out the strike. Either the strike breaks and fails or the government is forced to put more money into the system.",
">\n\nBrexit has been terrible for the UK.\nAnd the only people who seem to be shocked are the Brexiters.",
">\n\nInfuriating that most of them won't be around to suffer the long term consequences of their vote. I wonder what percent are already dead? Pretty weak.",
">\n\nThey'd hang around longer if they hadn't managed to crater the NHS so badly.",
">\n\nLooking at most of the older Brits I see on holiday in other countries I would honestly doubt that even. I haven't seen such grossly overweight and generally unhealthy looking people since I left the USA. What are they feeding these people?",
">\n\nMacca's and Vindaloos.",
">\n\nThe big red buss was a lie",
">\n\nIt’s hilarious how the conservatives mobilised the public into “coming out for the NHS” and giving them all rounds of applauds during covid, but now when they are done dying and breaking themselves over and over, there sure as hell won’t be any money for them. \nAnd the people fall for it like clockwork."
] |
>
That’s the remoaners fault though, nothing to see here
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about.",
">\n\nBut we banged those pots and pans..",
">\n\nSo those nurses need to shut up now and get back to work! We showed our support! Now I need to get back to reading the Sun and voting for the next Eton graduate..",
">\n\nWhat happens now?",
">\n\nThe state will try to break or wait out the strike. Either the strike breaks and fails or the government is forced to put more money into the system.",
">\n\nBrexit has been terrible for the UK.\nAnd the only people who seem to be shocked are the Brexiters.",
">\n\nInfuriating that most of them won't be around to suffer the long term consequences of their vote. I wonder what percent are already dead? Pretty weak.",
">\n\nThey'd hang around longer if they hadn't managed to crater the NHS so badly.",
">\n\nLooking at most of the older Brits I see on holiday in other countries I would honestly doubt that even. I haven't seen such grossly overweight and generally unhealthy looking people since I left the USA. What are they feeding these people?",
">\n\nMacca's and Vindaloos.",
">\n\nThe big red buss was a lie",
">\n\nIt’s hilarious how the conservatives mobilised the public into “coming out for the NHS” and giving them all rounds of applauds during covid, but now when they are done dying and breaking themselves over and over, there sure as hell won’t be any money for them. \nAnd the people fall for it like clockwork.",
">\n\nWhat were going to be the upsides of BREXIT again? Weren’t they going to save their NHS?"
] |
>
'Largest strike in (the) history of Britain's health service' for NOW.
Good. Very good.
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about.",
">\n\nBut we banged those pots and pans..",
">\n\nSo those nurses need to shut up now and get back to work! We showed our support! Now I need to get back to reading the Sun and voting for the next Eton graduate..",
">\n\nWhat happens now?",
">\n\nThe state will try to break or wait out the strike. Either the strike breaks and fails or the government is forced to put more money into the system.",
">\n\nBrexit has been terrible for the UK.\nAnd the only people who seem to be shocked are the Brexiters.",
">\n\nInfuriating that most of them won't be around to suffer the long term consequences of their vote. I wonder what percent are already dead? Pretty weak.",
">\n\nThey'd hang around longer if they hadn't managed to crater the NHS so badly.",
">\n\nLooking at most of the older Brits I see on holiday in other countries I would honestly doubt that even. I haven't seen such grossly overweight and generally unhealthy looking people since I left the USA. What are they feeding these people?",
">\n\nMacca's and Vindaloos.",
">\n\nThe big red buss was a lie",
">\n\nIt’s hilarious how the conservatives mobilised the public into “coming out for the NHS” and giving them all rounds of applauds during covid, but now when they are done dying and breaking themselves over and over, there sure as hell won’t be any money for them. \nAnd the people fall for it like clockwork.",
">\n\nWhat were going to be the upsides of BREXIT again? Weren’t they going to save their NHS?",
">\n\nThat’s the remoaners fault though, nothing to see here"
] |
>
Plus, in America at least, Nurses are being asked to do more and more and Doctors less and less, because they'd rather pay nurse rates.
Additionally we've got Nurse Practitioners and Assistant Doctors and all kinds of things that don't require MDs anymore.
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about.",
">\n\nBut we banged those pots and pans..",
">\n\nSo those nurses need to shut up now and get back to work! We showed our support! Now I need to get back to reading the Sun and voting for the next Eton graduate..",
">\n\nWhat happens now?",
">\n\nThe state will try to break or wait out the strike. Either the strike breaks and fails or the government is forced to put more money into the system.",
">\n\nBrexit has been terrible for the UK.\nAnd the only people who seem to be shocked are the Brexiters.",
">\n\nInfuriating that most of them won't be around to suffer the long term consequences of their vote. I wonder what percent are already dead? Pretty weak.",
">\n\nThey'd hang around longer if they hadn't managed to crater the NHS so badly.",
">\n\nLooking at most of the older Brits I see on holiday in other countries I would honestly doubt that even. I haven't seen such grossly overweight and generally unhealthy looking people since I left the USA. What are they feeding these people?",
">\n\nMacca's and Vindaloos.",
">\n\nThe big red buss was a lie",
">\n\nIt’s hilarious how the conservatives mobilised the public into “coming out for the NHS” and giving them all rounds of applauds during covid, but now when they are done dying and breaking themselves over and over, there sure as hell won’t be any money for them. \nAnd the people fall for it like clockwork.",
">\n\nWhat were going to be the upsides of BREXIT again? Weren’t they going to save their NHS?",
">\n\nThat’s the remoaners fault though, nothing to see here",
">\n\n'Largest strike in (the) history of Britain's health service' for NOW.\nGood. Very good."
] |
>
Nurses are so hit and miss.
If you go to the doctor's and know what you want and you see a nurse. If she agrees you're good. If you don't agree, you see a doctor and he normally says the nurse is wrong.
I really don't trust nurses to diagnose anything I can't.
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about.",
">\n\nBut we banged those pots and pans..",
">\n\nSo those nurses need to shut up now and get back to work! We showed our support! Now I need to get back to reading the Sun and voting for the next Eton graduate..",
">\n\nWhat happens now?",
">\n\nThe state will try to break or wait out the strike. Either the strike breaks and fails or the government is forced to put more money into the system.",
">\n\nBrexit has been terrible for the UK.\nAnd the only people who seem to be shocked are the Brexiters.",
">\n\nInfuriating that most of them won't be around to suffer the long term consequences of their vote. I wonder what percent are already dead? Pretty weak.",
">\n\nThey'd hang around longer if they hadn't managed to crater the NHS so badly.",
">\n\nLooking at most of the older Brits I see on holiday in other countries I would honestly doubt that even. I haven't seen such grossly overweight and generally unhealthy looking people since I left the USA. What are they feeding these people?",
">\n\nMacca's and Vindaloos.",
">\n\nThe big red buss was a lie",
">\n\nIt’s hilarious how the conservatives mobilised the public into “coming out for the NHS” and giving them all rounds of applauds during covid, but now when they are done dying and breaking themselves over and over, there sure as hell won’t be any money for them. \nAnd the people fall for it like clockwork.",
">\n\nWhat were going to be the upsides of BREXIT again? Weren’t they going to save their NHS?",
">\n\nThat’s the remoaners fault though, nothing to see here",
">\n\n'Largest strike in (the) history of Britain's health service' for NOW.\nGood. Very good.",
">\n\nPlus, in America at least, Nurses are being asked to do more and more and Doctors less and less, because they'd rather pay nurse rates.\nAdditionally we've got Nurse Practitioners and Assistant Doctors and all kinds of things that don't require MDs anymore."
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as a resident of an EU country, i do not understand the problem.
it was written in big letters on that red bus.
just pay the nurses the 350 million pounds you saved every week by leaving.... /s
too soon?
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[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about.",
">\n\nBut we banged those pots and pans..",
">\n\nSo those nurses need to shut up now and get back to work! We showed our support! Now I need to get back to reading the Sun and voting for the next Eton graduate..",
">\n\nWhat happens now?",
">\n\nThe state will try to break or wait out the strike. Either the strike breaks and fails or the government is forced to put more money into the system.",
">\n\nBrexit has been terrible for the UK.\nAnd the only people who seem to be shocked are the Brexiters.",
">\n\nInfuriating that most of them won't be around to suffer the long term consequences of their vote. I wonder what percent are already dead? Pretty weak.",
">\n\nThey'd hang around longer if they hadn't managed to crater the NHS so badly.",
">\n\nLooking at most of the older Brits I see on holiday in other countries I would honestly doubt that even. I haven't seen such grossly overweight and generally unhealthy looking people since I left the USA. What are they feeding these people?",
">\n\nMacca's and Vindaloos.",
">\n\nThe big red buss was a lie",
">\n\nIt’s hilarious how the conservatives mobilised the public into “coming out for the NHS” and giving them all rounds of applauds during covid, but now when they are done dying and breaking themselves over and over, there sure as hell won’t be any money for them. \nAnd the people fall for it like clockwork.",
">\n\nWhat were going to be the upsides of BREXIT again? Weren’t they going to save their NHS?",
">\n\nThat’s the remoaners fault though, nothing to see here",
">\n\n'Largest strike in (the) history of Britain's health service' for NOW.\nGood. Very good.",
">\n\nPlus, in America at least, Nurses are being asked to do more and more and Doctors less and less, because they'd rather pay nurse rates.\nAdditionally we've got Nurse Practitioners and Assistant Doctors and all kinds of things that don't require MDs anymore.",
">\n\nNurses are so hit and miss.\nIf you go to the doctor's and know what you want and you see a nurse. If she agrees you're good. If you don't agree, you see a doctor and he normally says the nurse is wrong.\nI really don't trust nurses to diagnose anything I can't."
] |
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Notice how far down this story is? Covered up by all the noise of an earthquake and a war?
There's a reason why this isn't front page news.
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[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about.",
">\n\nBut we banged those pots and pans..",
">\n\nSo those nurses need to shut up now and get back to work! We showed our support! Now I need to get back to reading the Sun and voting for the next Eton graduate..",
">\n\nWhat happens now?",
">\n\nThe state will try to break or wait out the strike. Either the strike breaks and fails or the government is forced to put more money into the system.",
">\n\nBrexit has been terrible for the UK.\nAnd the only people who seem to be shocked are the Brexiters.",
">\n\nInfuriating that most of them won't be around to suffer the long term consequences of their vote. I wonder what percent are already dead? Pretty weak.",
">\n\nThey'd hang around longer if they hadn't managed to crater the NHS so badly.",
">\n\nLooking at most of the older Brits I see on holiday in other countries I would honestly doubt that even. I haven't seen such grossly overweight and generally unhealthy looking people since I left the USA. What are they feeding these people?",
">\n\nMacca's and Vindaloos.",
">\n\nThe big red buss was a lie",
">\n\nIt’s hilarious how the conservatives mobilised the public into “coming out for the NHS” and giving them all rounds of applauds during covid, but now when they are done dying and breaking themselves over and over, there sure as hell won’t be any money for them. \nAnd the people fall for it like clockwork.",
">\n\nWhat were going to be the upsides of BREXIT again? Weren’t they going to save their NHS?",
">\n\nThat’s the remoaners fault though, nothing to see here",
">\n\n'Largest strike in (the) history of Britain's health service' for NOW.\nGood. Very good.",
">\n\nPlus, in America at least, Nurses are being asked to do more and more and Doctors less and less, because they'd rather pay nurse rates.\nAdditionally we've got Nurse Practitioners and Assistant Doctors and all kinds of things that don't require MDs anymore.",
">\n\nNurses are so hit and miss.\nIf you go to the doctor's and know what you want and you see a nurse. If she agrees you're good. If you don't agree, you see a doctor and he normally says the nurse is wrong.\nI really don't trust nurses to diagnose anything I can't.",
">\n\nas a resident of an EU country, i do not understand the problem.\nit was written in big letters on that red bus.\njust pay the nurses the 350 million pounds you saved every week by leaving.... /s\ntoo soon?"
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If even the Anglos start striking, you know the situation for the workers is very, very ugly
|
[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about.",
">\n\nBut we banged those pots and pans..",
">\n\nSo those nurses need to shut up now and get back to work! We showed our support! Now I need to get back to reading the Sun and voting for the next Eton graduate..",
">\n\nWhat happens now?",
">\n\nThe state will try to break or wait out the strike. Either the strike breaks and fails or the government is forced to put more money into the system.",
">\n\nBrexit has been terrible for the UK.\nAnd the only people who seem to be shocked are the Brexiters.",
">\n\nInfuriating that most of them won't be around to suffer the long term consequences of their vote. I wonder what percent are already dead? Pretty weak.",
">\n\nThey'd hang around longer if they hadn't managed to crater the NHS so badly.",
">\n\nLooking at most of the older Brits I see on holiday in other countries I would honestly doubt that even. I haven't seen such grossly overweight and generally unhealthy looking people since I left the USA. What are they feeding these people?",
">\n\nMacca's and Vindaloos.",
">\n\nThe big red buss was a lie",
">\n\nIt’s hilarious how the conservatives mobilised the public into “coming out for the NHS” and giving them all rounds of applauds during covid, but now when they are done dying and breaking themselves over and over, there sure as hell won’t be any money for them. \nAnd the people fall for it like clockwork.",
">\n\nWhat were going to be the upsides of BREXIT again? Weren’t they going to save their NHS?",
">\n\nThat’s the remoaners fault though, nothing to see here",
">\n\n'Largest strike in (the) history of Britain's health service' for NOW.\nGood. Very good.",
">\n\nPlus, in America at least, Nurses are being asked to do more and more and Doctors less and less, because they'd rather pay nurse rates.\nAdditionally we've got Nurse Practitioners and Assistant Doctors and all kinds of things that don't require MDs anymore.",
">\n\nNurses are so hit and miss.\nIf you go to the doctor's and know what you want and you see a nurse. If she agrees you're good. If you don't agree, you see a doctor and he normally says the nurse is wrong.\nI really don't trust nurses to diagnose anything I can't.",
">\n\nas a resident of an EU country, i do not understand the problem.\nit was written in big letters on that red bus.\njust pay the nurses the 350 million pounds you saved every week by leaving.... /s\ntoo soon?",
">\n\nNotice how far down this story is? Covered up by all the noise of an earthquake and a war?\nThere's a reason why this isn't front page news."
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Private healthcare incoming
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[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about.",
">\n\nBut we banged those pots and pans..",
">\n\nSo those nurses need to shut up now and get back to work! We showed our support! Now I need to get back to reading the Sun and voting for the next Eton graduate..",
">\n\nWhat happens now?",
">\n\nThe state will try to break or wait out the strike. Either the strike breaks and fails or the government is forced to put more money into the system.",
">\n\nBrexit has been terrible for the UK.\nAnd the only people who seem to be shocked are the Brexiters.",
">\n\nInfuriating that most of them won't be around to suffer the long term consequences of their vote. I wonder what percent are already dead? Pretty weak.",
">\n\nThey'd hang around longer if they hadn't managed to crater the NHS so badly.",
">\n\nLooking at most of the older Brits I see on holiday in other countries I would honestly doubt that even. I haven't seen such grossly overweight and generally unhealthy looking people since I left the USA. What are they feeding these people?",
">\n\nMacca's and Vindaloos.",
">\n\nThe big red buss was a lie",
">\n\nIt’s hilarious how the conservatives mobilised the public into “coming out for the NHS” and giving them all rounds of applauds during covid, but now when they are done dying and breaking themselves over and over, there sure as hell won’t be any money for them. \nAnd the people fall for it like clockwork.",
">\n\nWhat were going to be the upsides of BREXIT again? Weren’t they going to save their NHS?",
">\n\nThat’s the remoaners fault though, nothing to see here",
">\n\n'Largest strike in (the) history of Britain's health service' for NOW.\nGood. Very good.",
">\n\nPlus, in America at least, Nurses are being asked to do more and more and Doctors less and less, because they'd rather pay nurse rates.\nAdditionally we've got Nurse Practitioners and Assistant Doctors and all kinds of things that don't require MDs anymore.",
">\n\nNurses are so hit and miss.\nIf you go to the doctor's and know what you want and you see a nurse. If she agrees you're good. If you don't agree, you see a doctor and he normally says the nurse is wrong.\nI really don't trust nurses to diagnose anything I can't.",
">\n\nas a resident of an EU country, i do not understand the problem.\nit was written in big letters on that red bus.\njust pay the nurses the 350 million pounds you saved every week by leaving.... /s\ntoo soon?",
">\n\nNotice how far down this story is? Covered up by all the noise of an earthquake and a war?\nThere's a reason why this isn't front page news.",
">\n\nIf even the Anglos start striking, you know the situation for the workers is very, very ugly"
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[
"I believe the NHS workers are telling the truth about their wages not keeping up with inflation, especially with the 10% increase of inflation. They are being asked to work harder than ever.",
">\n\nThier nurses have always been vastly underpaid too. You could often make the same edge it better working in a grocery store",
">\n\nThat's a shame because they are responsible for saving lives. My neighbor was critically ill here in the US and the male nurse he had didn't leave his room almost the whole day, 12 hours.",
">\n\nA lot of nurses here are vastly underpaid for the worker do too. We're talking 12/hr range",
">\n\nGood for them. Clapping at the door doesn't feed or house your family. Pay the bloody nurses!",
">\n\nWhen government ignore people's need strike is their only option.",
">\n\nWell, it’s certainly their most reasonable option",
">\n\nWhy must billionaires' profits go up infinitely while everyone else's standard of living plummet to compensate? When do get off this death spiral economic design that ends with everyone being a slave?\nIt is billions of people or the billionaires. Their are not enough reasources for both.\nAll that needs to happen is organization. If everyone just took a single day of the year to work on progressing society instead of playing games, watching TV or tiktok that day, we'd have 20 hour work weeks by now.\nAlmost all slavery is just to feed the profit margins of our invisible masters, and most of the world is their cattle.\nWake up folks.",
">\n\nThe top 1% are now getting 63% of all new wealth created up from 54% in the last decade. While most of us lost money during the pandemic, the super-rich accelerated their rate of getting ahead.",
">\n\nI'm fairly sure all of us here are in the top 1% worldwide.\nMost of the worlds population is extremely poor.\nEdit:\nTo be in top 1% in the world you need to make 34 000 usd a year.\nMedian income of world is 1 225 usd a year",
">\n\n1% worldwide is a different figure from the 1% inside a country like the UK.",
">\n\nYes, but I have no idea whether the statistic he mentioned meant UK or the world.",
">\n\nHe literally said: \"While most of us lost money during the pandemic\".\nThat should be plenty to go about.",
">\n\nBut we banged those pots and pans..",
">\n\nSo those nurses need to shut up now and get back to work! We showed our support! Now I need to get back to reading the Sun and voting for the next Eton graduate..",
">\n\nWhat happens now?",
">\n\nThe state will try to break or wait out the strike. Either the strike breaks and fails or the government is forced to put more money into the system.",
">\n\nBrexit has been terrible for the UK.\nAnd the only people who seem to be shocked are the Brexiters.",
">\n\nInfuriating that most of them won't be around to suffer the long term consequences of their vote. I wonder what percent are already dead? Pretty weak.",
">\n\nThey'd hang around longer if they hadn't managed to crater the NHS so badly.",
">\n\nLooking at most of the older Brits I see on holiday in other countries I would honestly doubt that even. I haven't seen such grossly overweight and generally unhealthy looking people since I left the USA. What are they feeding these people?",
">\n\nMacca's and Vindaloos.",
">\n\nThe big red buss was a lie",
">\n\nIt’s hilarious how the conservatives mobilised the public into “coming out for the NHS” and giving them all rounds of applauds during covid, but now when they are done dying and breaking themselves over and over, there sure as hell won’t be any money for them. \nAnd the people fall for it like clockwork.",
">\n\nWhat were going to be the upsides of BREXIT again? Weren’t they going to save their NHS?",
">\n\nThat’s the remoaners fault though, nothing to see here",
">\n\n'Largest strike in (the) history of Britain's health service' for NOW.\nGood. Very good.",
">\n\nPlus, in America at least, Nurses are being asked to do more and more and Doctors less and less, because they'd rather pay nurse rates.\nAdditionally we've got Nurse Practitioners and Assistant Doctors and all kinds of things that don't require MDs anymore.",
">\n\nNurses are so hit and miss.\nIf you go to the doctor's and know what you want and you see a nurse. If she agrees you're good. If you don't agree, you see a doctor and he normally says the nurse is wrong.\nI really don't trust nurses to diagnose anything I can't.",
">\n\nas a resident of an EU country, i do not understand the problem.\nit was written in big letters on that red bus.\njust pay the nurses the 350 million pounds you saved every week by leaving.... /s\ntoo soon?",
">\n\nNotice how far down this story is? Covered up by all the noise of an earthquake and a war?\nThere's a reason why this isn't front page news.",
">\n\nIf even the Anglos start striking, you know the situation for the workers is very, very ugly",
">\n\nPrivate healthcare incoming"
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You see hands in Reddit photos all the time and you can see if they are young or old, skinny or obese, clean hands or nails vs dirty.
Someone starving is going to be different looking than a healthy weight skinny hand. Hydration is seen in cuticles and nail color. Idk so many factors can be used to say I think this person is generally healthy vs poor health.
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Is this an invitation to post pics of our hands and have you evaluate our general health?
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">\n\nYou see hands in Reddit photos all the time and you can see if they are young or old, skinny or obese, clean hands or nails vs dirty. \nSomeone starving is going to be different looking than a healthy weight skinny hand. Hydration is seen in cuticles and nail color. Idk so many factors can be used to say I think this person is generally healthy vs poor health."
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There gotta be a sub for this already haha
Edit: yup it’s called r/hands
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nYou see hands in Reddit photos all the time and you can see if they are young or old, skinny or obese, clean hands or nails vs dirty. \nSomeone starving is going to be different looking than a healthy weight skinny hand. Hydration is seen in cuticles and nail color. Idk so many factors can be used to say I think this person is generally healthy vs poor health.",
">\n\nIs this an invitation to post pics of our hands and have you evaluate our general health?"
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I see. We're calling for your expertise over there.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nYou see hands in Reddit photos all the time and you can see if they are young or old, skinny or obese, clean hands or nails vs dirty. \nSomeone starving is going to be different looking than a healthy weight skinny hand. Hydration is seen in cuticles and nail color. Idk so many factors can be used to say I think this person is generally healthy vs poor health.",
">\n\nIs this an invitation to post pics of our hands and have you evaluate our general health?",
">\n\nThere gotta be a sub for this already haha\nEdit: yup it’s called r/hands"
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I would love to send you a photo if my hand for you to assess and then I would tell you how wrong you are
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nYou see hands in Reddit photos all the time and you can see if they are young or old, skinny or obese, clean hands or nails vs dirty. \nSomeone starving is going to be different looking than a healthy weight skinny hand. Hydration is seen in cuticles and nail color. Idk so many factors can be used to say I think this person is generally healthy vs poor health.",
">\n\nIs this an invitation to post pics of our hands and have you evaluate our general health?",
">\n\nThere gotta be a sub for this already haha\nEdit: yup it’s called r/hands",
">\n\nI see. We're calling for your expertise over there."
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I just found r/hands post it there and comment me the link. Let’s test this.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nYou see hands in Reddit photos all the time and you can see if they are young or old, skinny or obese, clean hands or nails vs dirty. \nSomeone starving is going to be different looking than a healthy weight skinny hand. Hydration is seen in cuticles and nail color. Idk so many factors can be used to say I think this person is generally healthy vs poor health.",
">\n\nIs this an invitation to post pics of our hands and have you evaluate our general health?",
">\n\nThere gotta be a sub for this already haha\nEdit: yup it’s called r/hands",
">\n\nI see. We're calling for your expertise over there.",
">\n\nI would love to send you a photo if my hand for you to assess and then I would tell you how wrong you are"
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