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People seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?
I get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.
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"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true."
] |
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Remember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?
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[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage."
] |
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Remember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?"
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The fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?"
] |
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I'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative."
] |
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Because accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.
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"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?"
] |
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Well they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.
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[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that."
] |
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They know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.
Just because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.
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"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it."
] |
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Yeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.
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"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable."
] |
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You know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships.
But one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.
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"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly."
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and since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.
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[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching."
] |
>
No shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold."
] |
>
That's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace."
] |
>
ONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*
... if you believe Trump.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?"
] |
>
Much was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump."
] |
>
I overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested."
] |
>
Lol. Under Trump then.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US"
] |
>
I wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then."
] |
>
They will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment"
] |
>
Balloons on Biden's watch...unknown
Balloons shot down by Biden...one
Balloons on Trump's watch...three (known)
Balloons shot down by Trump...zero
GOP...Biden soft on China
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West"
] |
>
I’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China"
] |
>
I'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US."
] |
>
Cut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.
The subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing."
] |
>
Everyone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands."
] |
>
Ah, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah"
] |
>
I mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor."
] |
>
Of course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one."
] |
>
Trump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?"
] |
>
Watching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time."
] |
>
We (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those "sensitive military sites" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights."
] |
>
Considering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over."
] |
>
Right, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us."
] |
>
Because Fox didn't tell them.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?"
] |
>
Explains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them."
] |
>
Even rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact."
] |
>
And where doe the ballistic missile land?
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace."
] |
>
Because Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?"
] |
>
Of course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land."
] |
>
What I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump."
] |
>
China demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.
As a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.
And the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.
(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?"
] |
>
General Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons?
TREASON!
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)"
] |
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Countries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.
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[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!"
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Time to move EVERYTHING
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[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy."
] |
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funding spending
a good old fashion spacerace
like late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons
start schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers
which country will win, stay tuned
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[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING"
] |
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Doesn't China have spy satellites?
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[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned"
] |
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Im sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground
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[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?"
] |
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"Scrambled" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google "scrambled" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs.
No conspiracy theories there.
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[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground"
] |
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I am very much failing to understand how a military is today, in these modern times, using a balloon for surveillance.
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[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground",
">\n\n\"Scrambled\" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google \"scrambled\" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs. \nNo conspiracy theories there."
] |
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Cheaper than an aircraft, especially if shot down
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground",
">\n\n\"Scrambled\" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google \"scrambled\" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs. \nNo conspiracy theories there.",
">\n\nI am very much failing to understand how a military is today, in these modern times, using a balloon for surveillance."
] |
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Probably even cheaper than the missile they shot it with
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground",
">\n\n\"Scrambled\" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google \"scrambled\" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs. \nNo conspiracy theories there.",
">\n\nI am very much failing to understand how a military is today, in these modern times, using a balloon for surveillance.",
">\n\nCheaper than an aircraft, especially if shot down"
] |
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We purposefully try to give off a “don’t fuck with me” vibe, so yeah, it’s a show off thing, dick measuring
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground",
">\n\n\"Scrambled\" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google \"scrambled\" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs. \nNo conspiracy theories there.",
">\n\nI am very much failing to understand how a military is today, in these modern times, using a balloon for surveillance.",
">\n\nCheaper than an aircraft, especially if shot down",
">\n\nProbably even cheaper than the missile they shot it with"
] |
>
They didn't shoot it down sooner cause they thought it might be a UAP and those things shoot back.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground",
">\n\n\"Scrambled\" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google \"scrambled\" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs. \nNo conspiracy theories there.",
">\n\nI am very much failing to understand how a military is today, in these modern times, using a balloon for surveillance.",
">\n\nCheaper than an aircraft, especially if shot down",
">\n\nProbably even cheaper than the missile they shot it with",
">\n\nWe purposefully try to give off a “don’t fuck with me” vibe, so yeah, it’s a show off thing, dick measuring"
] |
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Lol that’s a new one
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[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground",
">\n\n\"Scrambled\" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google \"scrambled\" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs. \nNo conspiracy theories there.",
">\n\nI am very much failing to understand how a military is today, in these modern times, using a balloon for surveillance.",
">\n\nCheaper than an aircraft, especially if shot down",
">\n\nProbably even cheaper than the missile they shot it with",
">\n\nWe purposefully try to give off a “don’t fuck with me” vibe, so yeah, it’s a show off thing, dick measuring",
">\n\nThey didn't shoot it down sooner cause they thought it might be a UAP and those things shoot back."
] |
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I was wondering where did it enter US air space? And couldn't it have been shot down before it entered?
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground",
">\n\n\"Scrambled\" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google \"scrambled\" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs. \nNo conspiracy theories there.",
">\n\nI am very much failing to understand how a military is today, in these modern times, using a balloon for surveillance.",
">\n\nCheaper than an aircraft, especially if shot down",
">\n\nProbably even cheaper than the missile they shot it with",
">\n\nWe purposefully try to give off a “don’t fuck with me” vibe, so yeah, it’s a show off thing, dick measuring",
">\n\nThey didn't shoot it down sooner cause they thought it might be a UAP and those things shoot back.",
">\n\nLol that’s a new one"
] |
>
It was over Canada before it was over the us.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground",
">\n\n\"Scrambled\" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google \"scrambled\" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs. \nNo conspiracy theories there.",
">\n\nI am very much failing to understand how a military is today, in these modern times, using a balloon for surveillance.",
">\n\nCheaper than an aircraft, especially if shot down",
">\n\nProbably even cheaper than the missile they shot it with",
">\n\nWe purposefully try to give off a “don’t fuck with me” vibe, so yeah, it’s a show off thing, dick measuring",
">\n\nThey didn't shoot it down sooner cause they thought it might be a UAP and those things shoot back.",
">\n\nLol that’s a new one",
">\n\nI was wondering where did it enter US air space? And couldn't it have been shot down before it entered?"
] |
>
And they didn't see it coming into their Canadian air space ?
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground",
">\n\n\"Scrambled\" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google \"scrambled\" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs. \nNo conspiracy theories there.",
">\n\nI am very much failing to understand how a military is today, in these modern times, using a balloon for surveillance.",
">\n\nCheaper than an aircraft, especially if shot down",
">\n\nProbably even cheaper than the missile they shot it with",
">\n\nWe purposefully try to give off a “don’t fuck with me” vibe, so yeah, it’s a show off thing, dick measuring",
">\n\nThey didn't shoot it down sooner cause they thought it might be a UAP and those things shoot back.",
">\n\nLol that’s a new one",
">\n\nI was wondering where did it enter US air space? And couldn't it have been shot down before it entered?",
">\n\nIt was over Canada before it was over the us."
] |
>
It was sighted in Montana first so that would appear to be the case.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground",
">\n\n\"Scrambled\" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google \"scrambled\" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs. \nNo conspiracy theories there.",
">\n\nI am very much failing to understand how a military is today, in these modern times, using a balloon for surveillance.",
">\n\nCheaper than an aircraft, especially if shot down",
">\n\nProbably even cheaper than the missile they shot it with",
">\n\nWe purposefully try to give off a “don’t fuck with me” vibe, so yeah, it’s a show off thing, dick measuring",
">\n\nThey didn't shoot it down sooner cause they thought it might be a UAP and those things shoot back.",
">\n\nLol that’s a new one",
">\n\nI was wondering where did it enter US air space? And couldn't it have been shot down before it entered?",
">\n\nIt was over Canada before it was over the us.",
">\n\nAnd they didn't see it coming into their Canadian air space ?"
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>
It's weird that Canada did nothing to stop it and bring it down when it was entering their air space, presumably in an unpopulated area.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground",
">\n\n\"Scrambled\" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google \"scrambled\" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs. \nNo conspiracy theories there.",
">\n\nI am very much failing to understand how a military is today, in these modern times, using a balloon for surveillance.",
">\n\nCheaper than an aircraft, especially if shot down",
">\n\nProbably even cheaper than the missile they shot it with",
">\n\nWe purposefully try to give off a “don’t fuck with me” vibe, so yeah, it’s a show off thing, dick measuring",
">\n\nThey didn't shoot it down sooner cause they thought it might be a UAP and those things shoot back.",
">\n\nLol that’s a new one",
">\n\nI was wondering where did it enter US air space? And couldn't it have been shot down before it entered?",
">\n\nIt was over Canada before it was over the us.",
">\n\nAnd they didn't see it coming into their Canadian air space ?",
">\n\nIt was sighted in Montana first so that would appear to be the case."
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sure
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[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground",
">\n\n\"Scrambled\" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google \"scrambled\" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs. \nNo conspiracy theories there.",
">\n\nI am very much failing to understand how a military is today, in these modern times, using a balloon for surveillance.",
">\n\nCheaper than an aircraft, especially if shot down",
">\n\nProbably even cheaper than the missile they shot it with",
">\n\nWe purposefully try to give off a “don’t fuck with me” vibe, so yeah, it’s a show off thing, dick measuring",
">\n\nThey didn't shoot it down sooner cause they thought it might be a UAP and those things shoot back.",
">\n\nLol that’s a new one",
">\n\nI was wondering where did it enter US air space? And couldn't it have been shot down before it entered?",
">\n\nIt was over Canada before it was over the us.",
">\n\nAnd they didn't see it coming into their Canadian air space ?",
">\n\nIt was sighted in Montana first so that would appear to be the case.",
">\n\nIt's weird that Canada did nothing to stop it and bring it down when it was entering their air space, presumably in an unpopulated area."
] |
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I'd like to point out to the "Biden waited too long to ShEwT It DoWn" crowd that electronic warfare is a thing, we have airborne platforms that can jam radars and shit, and it's entirely possible/likely we were jamming it/harvesting signal information from it the entire time until we did finally shoot it down.
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[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground",
">\n\n\"Scrambled\" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google \"scrambled\" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs. \nNo conspiracy theories there.",
">\n\nI am very much failing to understand how a military is today, in these modern times, using a balloon for surveillance.",
">\n\nCheaper than an aircraft, especially if shot down",
">\n\nProbably even cheaper than the missile they shot it with",
">\n\nWe purposefully try to give off a “don’t fuck with me” vibe, so yeah, it’s a show off thing, dick measuring",
">\n\nThey didn't shoot it down sooner cause they thought it might be a UAP and those things shoot back.",
">\n\nLol that’s a new one",
">\n\nI was wondering where did it enter US air space? And couldn't it have been shot down before it entered?",
">\n\nIt was over Canada before it was over the us.",
">\n\nAnd they didn't see it coming into their Canadian air space ?",
">\n\nIt was sighted in Montana first so that would appear to be the case.",
">\n\nIt's weird that Canada did nothing to stop it and bring it down when it was entering their air space, presumably in an unpopulated area.",
">\n\nsure"
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>
Even if he shot it down right away theyd find some other way to whine about it.
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground",
">\n\n\"Scrambled\" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google \"scrambled\" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs. \nNo conspiracy theories there.",
">\n\nI am very much failing to understand how a military is today, in these modern times, using a balloon for surveillance.",
">\n\nCheaper than an aircraft, especially if shot down",
">\n\nProbably even cheaper than the missile they shot it with",
">\n\nWe purposefully try to give off a “don’t fuck with me” vibe, so yeah, it’s a show off thing, dick measuring",
">\n\nThey didn't shoot it down sooner cause they thought it might be a UAP and those things shoot back.",
">\n\nLol that’s a new one",
">\n\nI was wondering where did it enter US air space? And couldn't it have been shot down before it entered?",
">\n\nIt was over Canada before it was over the us.",
">\n\nAnd they didn't see it coming into their Canadian air space ?",
">\n\nIt was sighted in Montana first so that would appear to be the case.",
">\n\nIt's weird that Canada did nothing to stop it and bring it down when it was entering their air space, presumably in an unpopulated area.",
">\n\nsure",
">\n\nI'd like to point out to the \"Biden waited too long to ShEwT It DoWn\" crowd that electronic warfare is a thing, we have airborne platforms that can jam radars and shit, and it's entirely possible/likely we were jamming it/harvesting signal information from it the entire time until we did finally shoot it down."
] |
>
Satellites, tictok, Facebook ... they have so so so much data already. What can a balloon really offer that the others can't?
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground",
">\n\n\"Scrambled\" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google \"scrambled\" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs. \nNo conspiracy theories there.",
">\n\nI am very much failing to understand how a military is today, in these modern times, using a balloon for surveillance.",
">\n\nCheaper than an aircraft, especially if shot down",
">\n\nProbably even cheaper than the missile they shot it with",
">\n\nWe purposefully try to give off a “don’t fuck with me” vibe, so yeah, it’s a show off thing, dick measuring",
">\n\nThey didn't shoot it down sooner cause they thought it might be a UAP and those things shoot back.",
">\n\nLol that’s a new one",
">\n\nI was wondering where did it enter US air space? And couldn't it have been shot down before it entered?",
">\n\nIt was over Canada before it was over the us.",
">\n\nAnd they didn't see it coming into their Canadian air space ?",
">\n\nIt was sighted in Montana first so that would appear to be the case.",
">\n\nIt's weird that Canada did nothing to stop it and bring it down when it was entering their air space, presumably in an unpopulated area.",
">\n\nsure",
">\n\nI'd like to point out to the \"Biden waited too long to ShEwT It DoWn\" crowd that electronic warfare is a thing, we have airborne platforms that can jam radars and shit, and it's entirely possible/likely we were jamming it/harvesting signal information from it the entire time until we did finally shoot it down.",
">\n\nEven if he shot it down right away theyd find some other way to whine about it."
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I wish whomever made those balloons would have attached a small scroll of paper with the lyrics to "Never Gonna Give You Up" written on them.
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[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground",
">\n\n\"Scrambled\" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google \"scrambled\" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs. \nNo conspiracy theories there.",
">\n\nI am very much failing to understand how a military is today, in these modern times, using a balloon for surveillance.",
">\n\nCheaper than an aircraft, especially if shot down",
">\n\nProbably even cheaper than the missile they shot it with",
">\n\nWe purposefully try to give off a “don’t fuck with me” vibe, so yeah, it’s a show off thing, dick measuring",
">\n\nThey didn't shoot it down sooner cause they thought it might be a UAP and those things shoot back.",
">\n\nLol that’s a new one",
">\n\nI was wondering where did it enter US air space? And couldn't it have been shot down before it entered?",
">\n\nIt was over Canada before it was over the us.",
">\n\nAnd they didn't see it coming into their Canadian air space ?",
">\n\nIt was sighted in Montana first so that would appear to be the case.",
">\n\nIt's weird that Canada did nothing to stop it and bring it down when it was entering their air space, presumably in an unpopulated area.",
">\n\nsure",
">\n\nI'd like to point out to the \"Biden waited too long to ShEwT It DoWn\" crowd that electronic warfare is a thing, we have airborne platforms that can jam radars and shit, and it's entirely possible/likely we were jamming it/harvesting signal information from it the entire time until we did finally shoot it down.",
">\n\nEven if he shot it down right away theyd find some other way to whine about it.",
">\n\nSatellites, tictok, Facebook ... they have so so so much data already. What can a balloon really offer that the others can't?"
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[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground",
">\n\n\"Scrambled\" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google \"scrambled\" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs. \nNo conspiracy theories there.",
">\n\nI am very much failing to understand how a military is today, in these modern times, using a balloon for surveillance.",
">\n\nCheaper than an aircraft, especially if shot down",
">\n\nProbably even cheaper than the missile they shot it with",
">\n\nWe purposefully try to give off a “don’t fuck with me” vibe, so yeah, it’s a show off thing, dick measuring",
">\n\nThey didn't shoot it down sooner cause they thought it might be a UAP and those things shoot back.",
">\n\nLol that’s a new one",
">\n\nI was wondering where did it enter US air space? And couldn't it have been shot down before it entered?",
">\n\nIt was over Canada before it was over the us.",
">\n\nAnd they didn't see it coming into their Canadian air space ?",
">\n\nIt was sighted in Montana first so that would appear to be the case.",
">\n\nIt's weird that Canada did nothing to stop it and bring it down when it was entering their air space, presumably in an unpopulated area.",
">\n\nsure",
">\n\nI'd like to point out to the \"Biden waited too long to ShEwT It DoWn\" crowd that electronic warfare is a thing, we have airborne platforms that can jam radars and shit, and it's entirely possible/likely we were jamming it/harvesting signal information from it the entire time until we did finally shoot it down.",
">\n\nEven if he shot it down right away theyd find some other way to whine about it.",
">\n\nSatellites, tictok, Facebook ... they have so so so much data already. What can a balloon really offer that the others can't?",
">\n\nI wish whomever made those balloons would have attached a small scroll of paper with the lyrics to \"Never Gonna Give You Up\" written on them."
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What's the truth with this? Were the signals jammed so they couldn't get any pictures or not? Did they already have details on the sties from their satellites anyway or not? What a bunch of bs going round and round.
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[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground",
">\n\n\"Scrambled\" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google \"scrambled\" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs. \nNo conspiracy theories there.",
">\n\nI am very much failing to understand how a military is today, in these modern times, using a balloon for surveillance.",
">\n\nCheaper than an aircraft, especially if shot down",
">\n\nProbably even cheaper than the missile they shot it with",
">\n\nWe purposefully try to give off a “don’t fuck with me” vibe, so yeah, it’s a show off thing, dick measuring",
">\n\nThey didn't shoot it down sooner cause they thought it might be a UAP and those things shoot back.",
">\n\nLol that’s a new one",
">\n\nI was wondering where did it enter US air space? And couldn't it have been shot down before it entered?",
">\n\nIt was over Canada before it was over the us.",
">\n\nAnd they didn't see it coming into their Canadian air space ?",
">\n\nIt was sighted in Montana first so that would appear to be the case.",
">\n\nIt's weird that Canada did nothing to stop it and bring it down when it was entering their air space, presumably in an unpopulated area.",
">\n\nsure",
">\n\nI'd like to point out to the \"Biden waited too long to ShEwT It DoWn\" crowd that electronic warfare is a thing, we have airborne platforms that can jam radars and shit, and it's entirely possible/likely we were jamming it/harvesting signal information from it the entire time until we did finally shoot it down.",
">\n\nEven if he shot it down right away theyd find some other way to whine about it.",
">\n\nSatellites, tictok, Facebook ... they have so so so much data already. What can a balloon really offer that the others can't?",
">\n\nI wish whomever made those balloons would have attached a small scroll of paper with the lyrics to \"Never Gonna Give You Up\" written on them.",
">\n\nSanctions"
] |
>
Your telling me that same balloon has been over me for years?! Guys! We have the highest defense budget in the world, can you stop drone striking middle eastern children for a second?!
|
[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground",
">\n\n\"Scrambled\" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google \"scrambled\" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs. \nNo conspiracy theories there.",
">\n\nI am very much failing to understand how a military is today, in these modern times, using a balloon for surveillance.",
">\n\nCheaper than an aircraft, especially if shot down",
">\n\nProbably even cheaper than the missile they shot it with",
">\n\nWe purposefully try to give off a “don’t fuck with me” vibe, so yeah, it’s a show off thing, dick measuring",
">\n\nThey didn't shoot it down sooner cause they thought it might be a UAP and those things shoot back.",
">\n\nLol that’s a new one",
">\n\nI was wondering where did it enter US air space? And couldn't it have been shot down before it entered?",
">\n\nIt was over Canada before it was over the us.",
">\n\nAnd they didn't see it coming into their Canadian air space ?",
">\n\nIt was sighted in Montana first so that would appear to be the case.",
">\n\nIt's weird that Canada did nothing to stop it and bring it down when it was entering their air space, presumably in an unpopulated area.",
">\n\nsure",
">\n\nI'd like to point out to the \"Biden waited too long to ShEwT It DoWn\" crowd that electronic warfare is a thing, we have airborne platforms that can jam radars and shit, and it's entirely possible/likely we were jamming it/harvesting signal information from it the entire time until we did finally shoot it down.",
">\n\nEven if he shot it down right away theyd find some other way to whine about it.",
">\n\nSatellites, tictok, Facebook ... they have so so so much data already. What can a balloon really offer that the others can't?",
">\n\nI wish whomever made those balloons would have attached a small scroll of paper with the lyrics to \"Never Gonna Give You Up\" written on them.",
">\n\nSanctions",
">\n\nWhat's the truth with this? Were the signals jammed so they couldn't get any pictures or not? Did they already have details on the sties from their satellites anyway or not? What a bunch of bs going round and round."
] |
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[
"Chinese spy balloon was watching ‘sensitive military sites’ and program has been targeting US for years\n\nGOP has been complaining that Biden took too long to take action. Biden waited until it could be brought down without risk to others. Trump just let it happen. Three times. Now Republicans are pretending like they don't have a double standard, criticizing Biden but saying nothing about Trump.",
">\n\nSupposedly Biden wanted to shoot it down days earlier, but the military said it was getting good data from studying what the balloon was transmitting and convinced him to wait",
">\n\nand they still get to pick it up and see what it was was on it. the fact that this happened at least 3 times during rumps time in office and nothing was done should scare you.",
">\n\n\nand nothing was done should scare you.\n\nNot just nothing was done, but nothing was even noticed.",
">\n\nMusta been noticed. If not we wouldn’t know about these three’s",
">\n\nThis doesn't cause any anxiety response in me.\nRussia has been flying spy satellites over us for a long time. If it's electronic surveillance of frequencies I'd be a little more concerned but I think it would be cheaper and easier to just send a few student spies over here with some receivers. \nThe whole thing looks so amateurish and clunky that I could see how it really could just be collecting weather data. Regardless, if it's flying in our airspace without prior permission then we should shoot it down. Done and done.",
">\n\nThe simplest explanation to me is that they just wanted to see how we'd respond to something flying over our airspace. I mean the Chinese are kinda slapdash in how they construct their shit but they're not stupid.",
">\n\nChina can definitely build quality products if the price is right.",
">\n\nI'm just saying that people tend to equate low quality products with stupidity which just isn't true.",
">\n\nPeople seem surprised that a technologically-advanced adversarial power is spying on us, a gigantic country that’s impossible to surveil? Like we haven’t had spy planes flying overhead since the early Cold War?\nI get the outcry and the knee jerk reaction to shoot it down, but a Chinese spy balloon floating at 60k feet is probably less worrying than all the other Chinese spying currently happening through Tik Tok, hacking, and corporate espionage.",
">\n\nRemember when a Chinese spy walked right into Mar-a-Lago when TFG was the sitting President?",
">\n\nRemember when swalwell was banging a Chinese spy? Remember when Feinstein had a Chinese spy as a driver?",
">\n\nThe fbi said salwell had no relationship with the Chinese spy. Not sure why you guys continue with a false narrative.",
">\n\nI'm just trying to figure out why you guys refuse to admit Tucker, Hannity etc lied to you about salwell?",
">\n\nBecause accepting the reality that their main news source lied about one thing is the first crack in the glass of their worldview that Fox is not the same 'lying mainstream media' they claim to hate. You can't expect them to willingly shatter their whole inner reality of their own volition. They aren't self aware enough for that.",
">\n\nWell they had reason to believe they could operate with impunity, because Trump has allowed it.",
">\n\nThey know 100% they shouldn’t have been doing it then and they shouldn’t be doing it now.\nJust because Trump didn’t do shit about it didn’t meant they thought it was all perfectly acceptable.",
">\n\nYeah, no matter what, it’s a foreign vessel in US airspace without any permission to be flying over our citizens like that. If it was reversed, you bet your ass they’d shoot it down too. I personally think it was just a test to see how we’d respond, and we responded accordingly.",
">\n\nYou know, when I was first notified about this story I think I had a normal reaction. One of slight curiousity and intrigue and the merest feeling of unease, a very minor unsettling feeling, and then it went away. I scanned an article or two and satisfied my curiosity. I also understood that while alarming, this isn't unprecedented and it doesn't untangle the fabric of our foreign relationships. \nBut one brief look at how Republicans are reacting to this same story, and you'd think Armageddon is approaching.",
">\n\nand since China is holding Trump’s purse he allowed it. With the spy at Mar a Lago I bet China was just confirming the national secrets Trump sold.",
">\n\nNo shit. They also said they can easily make the instrumentation useless too while over our airspace.",
">\n\nThat's kinda how spying and espionage generally works. Using a big ass, slow-moving balloon is a little unorthodox, but they are probably expendable. What are balloons going for these days?",
">\n\nONE BEELION DOLLARS *pinky to mouth*\n... if you believe Trump.",
">\n\nMuch was learned by patiently observing the balloon and taking it down where it could be recovered. It would have been idiotic to blast it down right away as some have suggested.",
">\n\nI overheard some Qanons saying this is how they delivered Covid to the US",
">\n\nLol. Under Trump then.",
">\n\nI wonder what excuses the Chinese going to use once its confirmed that the balloon was loaded with surveillance equipment",
">\n\nThey will say it wasnt as its all a ploy against the West",
">\n\nBalloons on Biden's watch...unknown\nBalloons shot down by Biden...one\nBalloons on Trump's watch...three (known)\nBalloons shot down by Trump...zero\nGOP...Biden soft on China",
">\n\nI’m really enjoying how next level embarrassed the Chinese are by this. Apparently they thought this would work and now they’re making up anything they think will work in order to deny spying on the US.",
">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when the Chinese said it was just a civilian weather balloon, no need to worry. I hope that precision hit on the balloon made them feel a little less safe in Beijing.",
">\n\nCut the strings on their fancy toy with surgical precision using an IR missile.\nThe subtle display of capability in that strike is likely lost on 99.9% of people on reddit, but trust me, the CCP understands.",
">\n\nEveryone says it’s overkill, but if we overkill a ballon imagine what would happen if you launched a ground assault… yeah",
">\n\nAh, so that means Trump was just letting it happen under his watch, huh? Fucking traitor.",
">\n\nI mean hate on trump all you want but according to the report it never made it’s way up the chain of command any of the 3 times due to the short time frame. The military literally said they never informed the trump admin. You can hate trump for a lot of things, and it’s well deserved, but this ain’t one.",
">\n\nOf course their spying on the US. What do you think Tik Tok is?",
">\n\nTrump said this was not a big deal because he was paying his Chinese taxes on time.",
">\n\nWatching these sites is useless. Getting things to successfully fly over these sites is the point. Test flights.",
">\n\nWe (USA) probably know the schedule of their (China) spy satellites, to they probably sent a balloon to try and catch us with our pants down, so to speak. NORAD probably just told those \"sensitive military sites\" to hide things like they usually do when those spy satellites pass over.",
">\n\nConsidering the military had been following this balloon since it left Chinese airspace it's hard to believe they thought the balloon could sneak up on us.",
">\n\nRight, this is what I'd expect too so why do so many seem to think we had no idea until it was over ND or some nonsense?",
">\n\nBecause Fox didn't tell them.",
">\n\nExplains why they waited until it was over water. If you think of just how much open space and nothing we have between cities in this country, they could have safely taken it down easily. What they wanted was a water landing to keep the instrument package more intact.",
">\n\nEven rural areas have houses, and dropping it over a rural area carries some risk. Plus it’s not like they were getting anything they didn’t already have from spy satellites so it wasn’t a huge deal. Even less if we really were able to jam it while it was in our airspace.",
">\n\nAnd where doe the ballistic missile land?",
">\n\nBecause Trump allowed it to happen. Biden had the balls to take it down. He initially wanted it down once it got into our airspace but was too dangerous over land.",
">\n\nOf course. We watch their sites, they watch ours. Anything really worth seeing is kept underground. It's all a big really expensive dance that predates Biden and Trump.",
">\n\nWhat I dont understand it why would China was any sort of altercation with the USA, wouldn't a war with USA dramatically hurt their economy? Who would shoot their best customer?",
">\n\nChina demonizes the US for supporting Taiwan.\nAs a country, China is extremely nationalistic and xenophobic.\nAnd the US is their major competitor for being the center of the global economy and military.\n(ie. some of the USA's allies started drifting away from us and to China when Trump took office in 2017. Though per my understanding their bungled handling of COVID, Ukraine and other crises drove the countries away and back to us.)",
">\n\nGeneral Mattis wouldn’t tell President Trump about the spy balloons? \nTREASON!",
">\n\nCountries spying? Damn, you mean like every single country does? Crazy.",
">\n\nTime to move EVERYTHING",
">\n\nfunding spending \na good old fashion spacerace\nlike late 1950's, put loads of money into balloons\nstart schools for... let's see had to look it up, they are called Engineers\nwhich country will win, stay tuned",
">\n\nDoesn't China have spy satellites?",
">\n\nIm sure the US spy on China. They obviously spy on other countries. China were just dumb enough to get caught so now the US can take the morale high ground",
">\n\n\"Scrambled\" is just a cool word when used in the context of jets, it reminds people of Top Gun stuff. Google \"scrambled\" and see what context it's always used with beside eggs. \nNo conspiracy theories there.",
">\n\nI am very much failing to understand how a military is today, in these modern times, using a balloon for surveillance.",
">\n\nCheaper than an aircraft, especially if shot down",
">\n\nProbably even cheaper than the missile they shot it with",
">\n\nWe purposefully try to give off a “don’t fuck with me” vibe, so yeah, it’s a show off thing, dick measuring",
">\n\nThey didn't shoot it down sooner cause they thought it might be a UAP and those things shoot back.",
">\n\nLol that’s a new one",
">\n\nI was wondering where did it enter US air space? And couldn't it have been shot down before it entered?",
">\n\nIt was over Canada before it was over the us.",
">\n\nAnd they didn't see it coming into their Canadian air space ?",
">\n\nIt was sighted in Montana first so that would appear to be the case.",
">\n\nIt's weird that Canada did nothing to stop it and bring it down when it was entering their air space, presumably in an unpopulated area.",
">\n\nsure",
">\n\nI'd like to point out to the \"Biden waited too long to ShEwT It DoWn\" crowd that electronic warfare is a thing, we have airborne platforms that can jam radars and shit, and it's entirely possible/likely we were jamming it/harvesting signal information from it the entire time until we did finally shoot it down.",
">\n\nEven if he shot it down right away theyd find some other way to whine about it.",
">\n\nSatellites, tictok, Facebook ... they have so so so much data already. What can a balloon really offer that the others can't?",
">\n\nI wish whomever made those balloons would have attached a small scroll of paper with the lyrics to \"Never Gonna Give You Up\" written on them.",
">\n\nSanctions",
">\n\nWhat's the truth with this? Were the signals jammed so they couldn't get any pictures or not? Did they already have details on the sties from their satellites anyway or not? What a bunch of bs going round and round.",
">\n\nYour telling me that same balloon has been over me for years?! Guys! We have the highest defense budget in the world, can you stop drone striking middle eastern children for a second?!"
] |
Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...
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It’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️
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"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe..."
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Sad to lose a treasure like this.
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"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...",
">\n\nIt’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️"
] |
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At least it wasn't through war. I'd prefer to lose things like this to natural events than human stupidity.
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[
"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...",
">\n\nIt’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️",
">\n\nSad to lose a treasure like this."
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I'd have to agree. There's a difference between natural and human evils in our minds I think.
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[
"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...",
">\n\nIt’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️",
">\n\nSad to lose a treasure like this.",
">\n\nAt least it wasn't through war. I'd prefer to lose things like this to natural events than human stupidity."
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This way it lasted as long as it could rather than humanity wrecking it
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[
"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...",
">\n\nIt’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️",
">\n\nSad to lose a treasure like this.",
">\n\nAt least it wasn't through war. I'd prefer to lose things like this to natural events than human stupidity.",
">\n\nI'd have to agree. There's a difference between natural and human evils in our minds I think."
] |
>
The news here is not about the loss of the castle so much as the evidence that it provides that no earthquake of this magnitude has occurred in this area in the last 2000 years. Even if it had stood it would likely have to be demolished. In fact most of the buildings we see still standing in the newscasts will have to be demolished. In the Christchurch quake only 3 buildings collapsed directly from the quake, but almost the whole of the city center had to be demolished due to structural damage.
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[
"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...",
">\n\nIt’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️",
">\n\nSad to lose a treasure like this.",
">\n\nAt least it wasn't through war. I'd prefer to lose things like this to natural events than human stupidity.",
">\n\nI'd have to agree. There's a difference between natural and human evils in our minds I think.",
">\n\nThis way it lasted as long as it could rather than humanity wrecking it"
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>
Also possible that there was a stronger earthquake but that the building used to be stronger. Over the years I'm sure the structure has been compromised.
|
[
"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...",
">\n\nIt’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️",
">\n\nSad to lose a treasure like this.",
">\n\nAt least it wasn't through war. I'd prefer to lose things like this to natural events than human stupidity.",
">\n\nI'd have to agree. There's a difference between natural and human evils in our minds I think.",
">\n\nThis way it lasted as long as it could rather than humanity wrecking it",
">\n\nThe news here is not about the loss of the castle so much as the evidence that it provides that no earthquake of this magnitude has occurred in this area in the last 2000 years. Even if it had stood it would likely have to be demolished. In fact most of the buildings we see still standing in the newscasts will have to be demolished. In the Christchurch quake only 3 buildings collapsed directly from the quake, but almost the whole of the city center had to be demolished due to structural damage."
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>
I've been there and I'm very sad to hear about this.
But what really breaks my heart is the massive loss of life. One of my friends is from Kilis, Turkey, and he said that he lost multiple family members in the earthquake. I spent some time there and was treated just like one of the family.
|
[
"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...",
">\n\nIt’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️",
">\n\nSad to lose a treasure like this.",
">\n\nAt least it wasn't through war. I'd prefer to lose things like this to natural events than human stupidity.",
">\n\nI'd have to agree. There's a difference between natural and human evils in our minds I think.",
">\n\nThis way it lasted as long as it could rather than humanity wrecking it",
">\n\nThe news here is not about the loss of the castle so much as the evidence that it provides that no earthquake of this magnitude has occurred in this area in the last 2000 years. Even if it had stood it would likely have to be demolished. In fact most of the buildings we see still standing in the newscasts will have to be demolished. In the Christchurch quake only 3 buildings collapsed directly from the quake, but almost the whole of the city center had to be demolished due to structural damage.",
">\n\nAlso possible that there was a stronger earthquake but that the building used to be stronger. Over the years I'm sure the structure has been compromised."
] |
>
So many great structures in that region of the world have been lost to earthquakes
|
[
"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...",
">\n\nIt’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️",
">\n\nSad to lose a treasure like this.",
">\n\nAt least it wasn't through war. I'd prefer to lose things like this to natural events than human stupidity.",
">\n\nI'd have to agree. There's a difference between natural and human evils in our minds I think.",
">\n\nThis way it lasted as long as it could rather than humanity wrecking it",
">\n\nThe news here is not about the loss of the castle so much as the evidence that it provides that no earthquake of this magnitude has occurred in this area in the last 2000 years. Even if it had stood it would likely have to be demolished. In fact most of the buildings we see still standing in the newscasts will have to be demolished. In the Christchurch quake only 3 buildings collapsed directly from the quake, but almost the whole of the city center had to be demolished due to structural damage.",
">\n\nAlso possible that there was a stronger earthquake but that the building used to be stronger. Over the years I'm sure the structure has been compromised.",
">\n\nI've been there and I'm very sad to hear about this.\nBut what really breaks my heart is the massive loss of life. One of my friends is from Kilis, Turkey, and he said that he lost multiple family members in the earthquake. I spent some time there and was treated just like one of the family."
] |
>
Hopefully they can rebuild it once again.
Which makes me think if this kind of earthquake happened near Istanbul, not only would the loss of life be catastrophically high, but we would also maybe lose gems like Topkapi Palace or Haghia Sophia.
|
[
"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...",
">\n\nIt’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️",
">\n\nSad to lose a treasure like this.",
">\n\nAt least it wasn't through war. I'd prefer to lose things like this to natural events than human stupidity.",
">\n\nI'd have to agree. There's a difference between natural and human evils in our minds I think.",
">\n\nThis way it lasted as long as it could rather than humanity wrecking it",
">\n\nThe news here is not about the loss of the castle so much as the evidence that it provides that no earthquake of this magnitude has occurred in this area in the last 2000 years. Even if it had stood it would likely have to be demolished. In fact most of the buildings we see still standing in the newscasts will have to be demolished. In the Christchurch quake only 3 buildings collapsed directly from the quake, but almost the whole of the city center had to be demolished due to structural damage.",
">\n\nAlso possible that there was a stronger earthquake but that the building used to be stronger. Over the years I'm sure the structure has been compromised.",
">\n\nI've been there and I'm very sad to hear about this.\nBut what really breaks my heart is the massive loss of life. One of my friends is from Kilis, Turkey, and he said that he lost multiple family members in the earthquake. I spent some time there and was treated just like one of the family.",
">\n\nSo many great structures in that region of the world have been lost to earthquakes"
] |
>
Seems like the absolute lowest priority issue at the moment.
|
[
"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...",
">\n\nIt’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️",
">\n\nSad to lose a treasure like this.",
">\n\nAt least it wasn't through war. I'd prefer to lose things like this to natural events than human stupidity.",
">\n\nI'd have to agree. There's a difference between natural and human evils in our minds I think.",
">\n\nThis way it lasted as long as it could rather than humanity wrecking it",
">\n\nThe news here is not about the loss of the castle so much as the evidence that it provides that no earthquake of this magnitude has occurred in this area in the last 2000 years. Even if it had stood it would likely have to be demolished. In fact most of the buildings we see still standing in the newscasts will have to be demolished. In the Christchurch quake only 3 buildings collapsed directly from the quake, but almost the whole of the city center had to be demolished due to structural damage.",
">\n\nAlso possible that there was a stronger earthquake but that the building used to be stronger. Over the years I'm sure the structure has been compromised.",
">\n\nI've been there and I'm very sad to hear about this.\nBut what really breaks my heart is the massive loss of life. One of my friends is from Kilis, Turkey, and he said that he lost multiple family members in the earthquake. I spent some time there and was treated just like one of the family.",
">\n\nSo many great structures in that region of the world have been lost to earthquakes",
">\n\nHopefully they can rebuild it once again.\nWhich makes me think if this kind of earthquake happened near Istanbul, not only would the loss of life be catastrophically high, but we would also maybe lose gems like Topkapi Palace or Haghia Sophia."
] |
>
Interesting the photo shows all the new construction of security fence that failed. Unless they had iron fencing 2000 years ago.
|
[
"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...",
">\n\nIt’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️",
">\n\nSad to lose a treasure like this.",
">\n\nAt least it wasn't through war. I'd prefer to lose things like this to natural events than human stupidity.",
">\n\nI'd have to agree. There's a difference between natural and human evils in our minds I think.",
">\n\nThis way it lasted as long as it could rather than humanity wrecking it",
">\n\nThe news here is not about the loss of the castle so much as the evidence that it provides that no earthquake of this magnitude has occurred in this area in the last 2000 years. Even if it had stood it would likely have to be demolished. In fact most of the buildings we see still standing in the newscasts will have to be demolished. In the Christchurch quake only 3 buildings collapsed directly from the quake, but almost the whole of the city center had to be demolished due to structural damage.",
">\n\nAlso possible that there was a stronger earthquake but that the building used to be stronger. Over the years I'm sure the structure has been compromised.",
">\n\nI've been there and I'm very sad to hear about this.\nBut what really breaks my heart is the massive loss of life. One of my friends is from Kilis, Turkey, and he said that he lost multiple family members in the earthquake. I spent some time there and was treated just like one of the family.",
">\n\nSo many great structures in that region of the world have been lost to earthquakes",
">\n\nHopefully they can rebuild it once again.\nWhich makes me think if this kind of earthquake happened near Istanbul, not only would the loss of life be catastrophically high, but we would also maybe lose gems like Topkapi Palace or Haghia Sophia.",
">\n\nSeems like the absolute lowest priority issue at the moment."
] |
>
Parts of the castle were rebuilt and added to by the Ottomans several times over the centuries. It says that in the article, if you'd bothered to read it.
|
[
"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...",
">\n\nIt’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️",
">\n\nSad to lose a treasure like this.",
">\n\nAt least it wasn't through war. I'd prefer to lose things like this to natural events than human stupidity.",
">\n\nI'd have to agree. There's a difference between natural and human evils in our minds I think.",
">\n\nThis way it lasted as long as it could rather than humanity wrecking it",
">\n\nThe news here is not about the loss of the castle so much as the evidence that it provides that no earthquake of this magnitude has occurred in this area in the last 2000 years. Even if it had stood it would likely have to be demolished. In fact most of the buildings we see still standing in the newscasts will have to be demolished. In the Christchurch quake only 3 buildings collapsed directly from the quake, but almost the whole of the city center had to be demolished due to structural damage.",
">\n\nAlso possible that there was a stronger earthquake but that the building used to be stronger. Over the years I'm sure the structure has been compromised.",
">\n\nI've been there and I'm very sad to hear about this.\nBut what really breaks my heart is the massive loss of life. One of my friends is from Kilis, Turkey, and he said that he lost multiple family members in the earthquake. I spent some time there and was treated just like one of the family.",
">\n\nSo many great structures in that region of the world have been lost to earthquakes",
">\n\nHopefully they can rebuild it once again.\nWhich makes me think if this kind of earthquake happened near Istanbul, not only would the loss of life be catastrophically high, but we would also maybe lose gems like Topkapi Palace or Haghia Sophia.",
">\n\nSeems like the absolute lowest priority issue at the moment.",
">\n\nInteresting the photo shows all the new construction of security fence that failed. Unless they had iron fencing 2000 years ago."
] |
>
i read this as Gamestop castle at first
|
[
"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...",
">\n\nIt’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️",
">\n\nSad to lose a treasure like this.",
">\n\nAt least it wasn't through war. I'd prefer to lose things like this to natural events than human stupidity.",
">\n\nI'd have to agree. There's a difference between natural and human evils in our minds I think.",
">\n\nThis way it lasted as long as it could rather than humanity wrecking it",
">\n\nThe news here is not about the loss of the castle so much as the evidence that it provides that no earthquake of this magnitude has occurred in this area in the last 2000 years. Even if it had stood it would likely have to be demolished. In fact most of the buildings we see still standing in the newscasts will have to be demolished. In the Christchurch quake only 3 buildings collapsed directly from the quake, but almost the whole of the city center had to be demolished due to structural damage.",
">\n\nAlso possible that there was a stronger earthquake but that the building used to be stronger. Over the years I'm sure the structure has been compromised.",
">\n\nI've been there and I'm very sad to hear about this.\nBut what really breaks my heart is the massive loss of life. One of my friends is from Kilis, Turkey, and he said that he lost multiple family members in the earthquake. I spent some time there and was treated just like one of the family.",
">\n\nSo many great structures in that region of the world have been lost to earthquakes",
">\n\nHopefully they can rebuild it once again.\nWhich makes me think if this kind of earthquake happened near Istanbul, not only would the loss of life be catastrophically high, but we would also maybe lose gems like Topkapi Palace or Haghia Sophia.",
">\n\nSeems like the absolute lowest priority issue at the moment.",
">\n\nInteresting the photo shows all the new construction of security fence that failed. Unless they had iron fencing 2000 years ago.",
">\n\nParts of the castle were rebuilt and added to by the Ottomans several times over the centuries. It says that in the article, if you'd bothered to read it."
] |
>
Should have earthquake proof the castle smh
|
[
"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...",
">\n\nIt’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️",
">\n\nSad to lose a treasure like this.",
">\n\nAt least it wasn't through war. I'd prefer to lose things like this to natural events than human stupidity.",
">\n\nI'd have to agree. There's a difference between natural and human evils in our minds I think.",
">\n\nThis way it lasted as long as it could rather than humanity wrecking it",
">\n\nThe news here is not about the loss of the castle so much as the evidence that it provides that no earthquake of this magnitude has occurred in this area in the last 2000 years. Even if it had stood it would likely have to be demolished. In fact most of the buildings we see still standing in the newscasts will have to be demolished. In the Christchurch quake only 3 buildings collapsed directly from the quake, but almost the whole of the city center had to be demolished due to structural damage.",
">\n\nAlso possible that there was a stronger earthquake but that the building used to be stronger. Over the years I'm sure the structure has been compromised.",
">\n\nI've been there and I'm very sad to hear about this.\nBut what really breaks my heart is the massive loss of life. One of my friends is from Kilis, Turkey, and he said that he lost multiple family members in the earthquake. I spent some time there and was treated just like one of the family.",
">\n\nSo many great structures in that region of the world have been lost to earthquakes",
">\n\nHopefully they can rebuild it once again.\nWhich makes me think if this kind of earthquake happened near Istanbul, not only would the loss of life be catastrophically high, but we would also maybe lose gems like Topkapi Palace or Haghia Sophia.",
">\n\nSeems like the absolute lowest priority issue at the moment.",
">\n\nInteresting the photo shows all the new construction of security fence that failed. Unless they had iron fencing 2000 years ago.",
">\n\nParts of the castle were rebuilt and added to by the Ottomans several times over the centuries. It says that in the article, if you'd bothered to read it.",
">\n\ni read this as Gamestop castle at first"
] |
>
Oh thank god you got that covered, i was worried i wasnt doing enough. Whew
|
[
"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...",
">\n\nIt’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️",
">\n\nSad to lose a treasure like this.",
">\n\nAt least it wasn't through war. I'd prefer to lose things like this to natural events than human stupidity.",
">\n\nI'd have to agree. There's a difference between natural and human evils in our minds I think.",
">\n\nThis way it lasted as long as it could rather than humanity wrecking it",
">\n\nThe news here is not about the loss of the castle so much as the evidence that it provides that no earthquake of this magnitude has occurred in this area in the last 2000 years. Even if it had stood it would likely have to be demolished. In fact most of the buildings we see still standing in the newscasts will have to be demolished. In the Christchurch quake only 3 buildings collapsed directly from the quake, but almost the whole of the city center had to be demolished due to structural damage.",
">\n\nAlso possible that there was a stronger earthquake but that the building used to be stronger. Over the years I'm sure the structure has been compromised.",
">\n\nI've been there and I'm very sad to hear about this.\nBut what really breaks my heart is the massive loss of life. One of my friends is from Kilis, Turkey, and he said that he lost multiple family members in the earthquake. I spent some time there and was treated just like one of the family.",
">\n\nSo many great structures in that region of the world have been lost to earthquakes",
">\n\nHopefully they can rebuild it once again.\nWhich makes me think if this kind of earthquake happened near Istanbul, not only would the loss of life be catastrophically high, but we would also maybe lose gems like Topkapi Palace or Haghia Sophia.",
">\n\nSeems like the absolute lowest priority issue at the moment.",
">\n\nInteresting the photo shows all the new construction of security fence that failed. Unless they had iron fencing 2000 years ago.",
">\n\nParts of the castle were rebuilt and added to by the Ottomans several times over the centuries. It says that in the article, if you'd bothered to read it.",
">\n\ni read this as Gamestop castle at first",
">\n\nShould have earthquake proof the castle smh"
] |
>
can we worry about the people before getting sentimental???
|
[
"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...",
">\n\nIt’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️",
">\n\nSad to lose a treasure like this.",
">\n\nAt least it wasn't through war. I'd prefer to lose things like this to natural events than human stupidity.",
">\n\nI'd have to agree. There's a difference between natural and human evils in our minds I think.",
">\n\nThis way it lasted as long as it could rather than humanity wrecking it",
">\n\nThe news here is not about the loss of the castle so much as the evidence that it provides that no earthquake of this magnitude has occurred in this area in the last 2000 years. Even if it had stood it would likely have to be demolished. In fact most of the buildings we see still standing in the newscasts will have to be demolished. In the Christchurch quake only 3 buildings collapsed directly from the quake, but almost the whole of the city center had to be demolished due to structural damage.",
">\n\nAlso possible that there was a stronger earthquake but that the building used to be stronger. Over the years I'm sure the structure has been compromised.",
">\n\nI've been there and I'm very sad to hear about this.\nBut what really breaks my heart is the massive loss of life. One of my friends is from Kilis, Turkey, and he said that he lost multiple family members in the earthquake. I spent some time there and was treated just like one of the family.",
">\n\nSo many great structures in that region of the world have been lost to earthquakes",
">\n\nHopefully they can rebuild it once again.\nWhich makes me think if this kind of earthquake happened near Istanbul, not only would the loss of life be catastrophically high, but we would also maybe lose gems like Topkapi Palace or Haghia Sophia.",
">\n\nSeems like the absolute lowest priority issue at the moment.",
">\n\nInteresting the photo shows all the new construction of security fence that failed. Unless they had iron fencing 2000 years ago.",
">\n\nParts of the castle were rebuilt and added to by the Ottomans several times over the centuries. It says that in the article, if you'd bothered to read it.",
">\n\ni read this as Gamestop castle at first",
">\n\nShould have earthquake proof the castle smh",
">\n\nOh thank god you got that covered, i was worried i wasnt doing enough. Whew"
] |
>
We can be sad about multiple things at once.
|
[
"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...",
">\n\nIt’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️",
">\n\nSad to lose a treasure like this.",
">\n\nAt least it wasn't through war. I'd prefer to lose things like this to natural events than human stupidity.",
">\n\nI'd have to agree. There's a difference between natural and human evils in our minds I think.",
">\n\nThis way it lasted as long as it could rather than humanity wrecking it",
">\n\nThe news here is not about the loss of the castle so much as the evidence that it provides that no earthquake of this magnitude has occurred in this area in the last 2000 years. Even if it had stood it would likely have to be demolished. In fact most of the buildings we see still standing in the newscasts will have to be demolished. In the Christchurch quake only 3 buildings collapsed directly from the quake, but almost the whole of the city center had to be demolished due to structural damage.",
">\n\nAlso possible that there was a stronger earthquake but that the building used to be stronger. Over the years I'm sure the structure has been compromised.",
">\n\nI've been there and I'm very sad to hear about this.\nBut what really breaks my heart is the massive loss of life. One of my friends is from Kilis, Turkey, and he said that he lost multiple family members in the earthquake. I spent some time there and was treated just like one of the family.",
">\n\nSo many great structures in that region of the world have been lost to earthquakes",
">\n\nHopefully they can rebuild it once again.\nWhich makes me think if this kind of earthquake happened near Istanbul, not only would the loss of life be catastrophically high, but we would also maybe lose gems like Topkapi Palace or Haghia Sophia.",
">\n\nSeems like the absolute lowest priority issue at the moment.",
">\n\nInteresting the photo shows all the new construction of security fence that failed. Unless they had iron fencing 2000 years ago.",
">\n\nParts of the castle were rebuilt and added to by the Ottomans several times over the centuries. It says that in the article, if you'd bothered to read it.",
">\n\ni read this as Gamestop castle at first",
">\n\nShould have earthquake proof the castle smh",
">\n\nOh thank god you got that covered, i was worried i wasnt doing enough. Whew",
">\n\ncan we worry about the people before getting sentimental???"
] |
>
people are worthy...not antiquities
|
[
"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...",
">\n\nIt’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️",
">\n\nSad to lose a treasure like this.",
">\n\nAt least it wasn't through war. I'd prefer to lose things like this to natural events than human stupidity.",
">\n\nI'd have to agree. There's a difference between natural and human evils in our minds I think.",
">\n\nThis way it lasted as long as it could rather than humanity wrecking it",
">\n\nThe news here is not about the loss of the castle so much as the evidence that it provides that no earthquake of this magnitude has occurred in this area in the last 2000 years. Even if it had stood it would likely have to be demolished. In fact most of the buildings we see still standing in the newscasts will have to be demolished. In the Christchurch quake only 3 buildings collapsed directly from the quake, but almost the whole of the city center had to be demolished due to structural damage.",
">\n\nAlso possible that there was a stronger earthquake but that the building used to be stronger. Over the years I'm sure the structure has been compromised.",
">\n\nI've been there and I'm very sad to hear about this.\nBut what really breaks my heart is the massive loss of life. One of my friends is from Kilis, Turkey, and he said that he lost multiple family members in the earthquake. I spent some time there and was treated just like one of the family.",
">\n\nSo many great structures in that region of the world have been lost to earthquakes",
">\n\nHopefully they can rebuild it once again.\nWhich makes me think if this kind of earthquake happened near Istanbul, not only would the loss of life be catastrophically high, but we would also maybe lose gems like Topkapi Palace or Haghia Sophia.",
">\n\nSeems like the absolute lowest priority issue at the moment.",
">\n\nInteresting the photo shows all the new construction of security fence that failed. Unless they had iron fencing 2000 years ago.",
">\n\nParts of the castle were rebuilt and added to by the Ottomans several times over the centuries. It says that in the article, if you'd bothered to read it.",
">\n\ni read this as Gamestop castle at first",
">\n\nShould have earthquake proof the castle smh",
">\n\nOh thank god you got that covered, i was worried i wasnt doing enough. Whew",
">\n\ncan we worry about the people before getting sentimental???",
">\n\nWe can be sad about multiple things at once."
] |
>
people are definitely worth more than objects but it’s fine to be sad about anything lost. It doesn’t mean you don’t care about the people.
|
[
"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...",
">\n\nIt’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️",
">\n\nSad to lose a treasure like this.",
">\n\nAt least it wasn't through war. I'd prefer to lose things like this to natural events than human stupidity.",
">\n\nI'd have to agree. There's a difference between natural and human evils in our minds I think.",
">\n\nThis way it lasted as long as it could rather than humanity wrecking it",
">\n\nThe news here is not about the loss of the castle so much as the evidence that it provides that no earthquake of this magnitude has occurred in this area in the last 2000 years. Even if it had stood it would likely have to be demolished. In fact most of the buildings we see still standing in the newscasts will have to be demolished. In the Christchurch quake only 3 buildings collapsed directly from the quake, but almost the whole of the city center had to be demolished due to structural damage.",
">\n\nAlso possible that there was a stronger earthquake but that the building used to be stronger. Over the years I'm sure the structure has been compromised.",
">\n\nI've been there and I'm very sad to hear about this.\nBut what really breaks my heart is the massive loss of life. One of my friends is from Kilis, Turkey, and he said that he lost multiple family members in the earthquake. I spent some time there and was treated just like one of the family.",
">\n\nSo many great structures in that region of the world have been lost to earthquakes",
">\n\nHopefully they can rebuild it once again.\nWhich makes me think if this kind of earthquake happened near Istanbul, not only would the loss of life be catastrophically high, but we would also maybe lose gems like Topkapi Palace or Haghia Sophia.",
">\n\nSeems like the absolute lowest priority issue at the moment.",
">\n\nInteresting the photo shows all the new construction of security fence that failed. Unless they had iron fencing 2000 years ago.",
">\n\nParts of the castle were rebuilt and added to by the Ottomans several times over the centuries. It says that in the article, if you'd bothered to read it.",
">\n\ni read this as Gamestop castle at first",
">\n\nShould have earthquake proof the castle smh",
">\n\nOh thank god you got that covered, i was worried i wasnt doing enough. Whew",
">\n\ncan we worry about the people before getting sentimental???",
">\n\nWe can be sad about multiple things at once.",
">\n\npeople are worthy...not antiquities"
] |
>
|
[
"Now I'm worried about Göbekli Tepe...",
">\n\nIt’s underground so it might be more protected, 🤷♂️",
">\n\nSad to lose a treasure like this.",
">\n\nAt least it wasn't through war. I'd prefer to lose things like this to natural events than human stupidity.",
">\n\nI'd have to agree. There's a difference between natural and human evils in our minds I think.",
">\n\nThis way it lasted as long as it could rather than humanity wrecking it",
">\n\nThe news here is not about the loss of the castle so much as the evidence that it provides that no earthquake of this magnitude has occurred in this area in the last 2000 years. Even if it had stood it would likely have to be demolished. In fact most of the buildings we see still standing in the newscasts will have to be demolished. In the Christchurch quake only 3 buildings collapsed directly from the quake, but almost the whole of the city center had to be demolished due to structural damage.",
">\n\nAlso possible that there was a stronger earthquake but that the building used to be stronger. Over the years I'm sure the structure has been compromised.",
">\n\nI've been there and I'm very sad to hear about this.\nBut what really breaks my heart is the massive loss of life. One of my friends is from Kilis, Turkey, and he said that he lost multiple family members in the earthquake. I spent some time there and was treated just like one of the family.",
">\n\nSo many great structures in that region of the world have been lost to earthquakes",
">\n\nHopefully they can rebuild it once again.\nWhich makes me think if this kind of earthquake happened near Istanbul, not only would the loss of life be catastrophically high, but we would also maybe lose gems like Topkapi Palace or Haghia Sophia.",
">\n\nSeems like the absolute lowest priority issue at the moment.",
">\n\nInteresting the photo shows all the new construction of security fence that failed. Unless they had iron fencing 2000 years ago.",
">\n\nParts of the castle were rebuilt and added to by the Ottomans several times over the centuries. It says that in the article, if you'd bothered to read it.",
">\n\ni read this as Gamestop castle at first",
">\n\nShould have earthquake proof the castle smh",
">\n\nOh thank god you got that covered, i was worried i wasnt doing enough. Whew",
">\n\ncan we worry about the people before getting sentimental???",
">\n\nWe can be sad about multiple things at once.",
">\n\npeople are worthy...not antiquities",
">\n\npeople are definitely worth more than objects but it’s fine to be sad about anything lost. It doesn’t mean you don’t care about the people."
] |
The best part was the apology he made for getting his face in front of Cheney’s shotgun blast.
|
[] |
>
Jon Stewart and the Daily Show ripped them a new one in an amazing segment called "Dead-Eye Dick."
I miss him.
|
[
"The best part was the apology he made for getting his face in front of Cheney’s shotgun blast."
] |
>
Cheney is one soulless SOB.
|
[
"The best part was the apology he made for getting his face in front of Cheney’s shotgun blast.",
">\n\nJon Stewart and the Daily Show ripped them a new one in an amazing segment called \"Dead-Eye Dick.\"\nI miss him."
] |
>
He really is. He's basically the closest thing the United States has to a Darth Vader, except for the potential redemption arc.
|
[
"The best part was the apology he made for getting his face in front of Cheney’s shotgun blast.",
">\n\nJon Stewart and the Daily Show ripped them a new one in an amazing segment called \"Dead-Eye Dick.\"\nI miss him.",
">\n\nCheney is one soulless SOB."
] |
>
Henry Kissinger rises from his crypt
"Amateur."
|
[
"The best part was the apology he made for getting his face in front of Cheney’s shotgun blast.",
">\n\nJon Stewart and the Daily Show ripped them a new one in an amazing segment called \"Dead-Eye Dick.\"\nI miss him.",
">\n\nCheney is one soulless SOB.",
">\n\nHe really is. He's basically the closest thing the United States has to a Darth Vader, except for the potential redemption arc."
] |
>
Crypt? May be a joke about him being a soulless ghoul, but he is somehow still walking the Earth.
|
[
"The best part was the apology he made for getting his face in front of Cheney’s shotgun blast.",
">\n\nJon Stewart and the Daily Show ripped them a new one in an amazing segment called \"Dead-Eye Dick.\"\nI miss him.",
">\n\nCheney is one soulless SOB.",
">\n\nHe really is. He's basically the closest thing the United States has to a Darth Vader, except for the potential redemption arc.",
">\n\nHenry Kissinger rises from his crypt\n\"Amateur.\""
] |
>
That's a blast from the past.
|
[
"The best part was the apology he made for getting his face in front of Cheney’s shotgun blast.",
">\n\nJon Stewart and the Daily Show ripped them a new one in an amazing segment called \"Dead-Eye Dick.\"\nI miss him.",
">\n\nCheney is one soulless SOB.",
">\n\nHe really is. He's basically the closest thing the United States has to a Darth Vader, except for the potential redemption arc.",
">\n\nHenry Kissinger rises from his crypt\n\"Amateur.\"",
">\n\nCrypt? May be a joke about him being a soulless ghoul, but he is somehow still walking the Earth."
] |
>
Hate to be remembered as the guy who Dick shot in the *face
|
[
"The best part was the apology he made for getting his face in front of Cheney’s shotgun blast.",
">\n\nJon Stewart and the Daily Show ripped them a new one in an amazing segment called \"Dead-Eye Dick.\"\nI miss him.",
">\n\nCheney is one soulless SOB.",
">\n\nHe really is. He's basically the closest thing the United States has to a Darth Vader, except for the potential redemption arc.",
">\n\nHenry Kissinger rises from his crypt\n\"Amateur.\"",
">\n\nCrypt? May be a joke about him being a soulless ghoul, but he is somehow still walking the Earth.",
">\n\nThat's a blast from the past."
] |
>
Cheney expected to attend funeral so Whittington an apologize one last time.
|
[
"The best part was the apology he made for getting his face in front of Cheney’s shotgun blast.",
">\n\nJon Stewart and the Daily Show ripped them a new one in an amazing segment called \"Dead-Eye Dick.\"\nI miss him.",
">\n\nCheney is one soulless SOB.",
">\n\nHe really is. He's basically the closest thing the United States has to a Darth Vader, except for the potential redemption arc.",
">\n\nHenry Kissinger rises from his crypt\n\"Amateur.\"",
">\n\nCrypt? May be a joke about him being a soulless ghoul, but he is somehow still walking the Earth.",
">\n\nThat's a blast from the past.",
">\n\nHate to be remembered as the guy who Dick shot in the *face"
] |
>
I’m sorry for dying and making you come to my funeral, Dick.
|
[
"The best part was the apology he made for getting his face in front of Cheney’s shotgun blast.",
">\n\nJon Stewart and the Daily Show ripped them a new one in an amazing segment called \"Dead-Eye Dick.\"\nI miss him.",
">\n\nCheney is one soulless SOB.",
">\n\nHe really is. He's basically the closest thing the United States has to a Darth Vader, except for the potential redemption arc.",
">\n\nHenry Kissinger rises from his crypt\n\"Amateur.\"",
">\n\nCrypt? May be a joke about him being a soulless ghoul, but he is somehow still walking the Earth.",
">\n\nThat's a blast from the past.",
">\n\nHate to be remembered as the guy who Dick shot in the *face",
">\n\nCheney expected to attend funeral so Whittington an apologize one last time."
] |
>
I'll never get over the fact that Harry Whittington publicly apologized to Dick Cheney for getting shot in the face by Cheney.
Also, I've brought it up before on Reddit. But we've heard from Clinton, Bush and Obama about not having classified documents. We haven't heard from Cheney if he did a sweep. And the last mention of "classified documents" and "Cheney" was a story where he said his office would not comply with an executive order regarding them.
|
[
"The best part was the apology he made for getting his face in front of Cheney’s shotgun blast.",
">\n\nJon Stewart and the Daily Show ripped them a new one in an amazing segment called \"Dead-Eye Dick.\"\nI miss him.",
">\n\nCheney is one soulless SOB.",
">\n\nHe really is. He's basically the closest thing the United States has to a Darth Vader, except for the potential redemption arc.",
">\n\nHenry Kissinger rises from his crypt\n\"Amateur.\"",
">\n\nCrypt? May be a joke about him being a soulless ghoul, but he is somehow still walking the Earth.",
">\n\nThat's a blast from the past.",
">\n\nHate to be remembered as the guy who Dick shot in the *face",
">\n\nCheney expected to attend funeral so Whittington an apologize one last time.",
">\n\nI’m sorry for dying and making you come to my funeral, Dick."
] |
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