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My favorite part of Amazon is: "Does this product support X?"
"Dont know, I returned mine" | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”"
] |
>
Lol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\""
] |
>
4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.
5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically."
] |
>
4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit."
] |
>
What about 5/5 with 4000 reviews? | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo."
] |
>
Fake | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?"
] |
>
Or maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔 | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake"
] |
>
Someone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔"
] |
>
Or just due to pure stupidity.
Rating: 0 out of 5. Review: "Is top product, does everything wery goodly" | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy"
] |
>
1/5 "I don't own this product" | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\""
] |
>
It’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\""
] |
>
Yeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic."
] |
>
Sounds interesting.. anyone knows? | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit"
] |
>
I think it’s just called stupidity | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?"
] |
>
I make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity"
] |
>
Well... All the reviews except that one. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up."
] |
>
To be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one."
] |
>
That one was from your mom. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there."
] |
>
Nope, she was the one star. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom."
] |
>
I just consider 4 an actual 5.
Karen’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star."
] |
>
Anything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut."
] |
>
What if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers? | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought."
] |
>
Usually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?"
] |
>
Think that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews."
] |
>
especially if the 1 star review says something like:
This product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine
some people are idiots | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise."
] |
>
"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star" | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots"
] |
>
"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star." | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\""
] |
>
I ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!
1 Star | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\""
] |
>
People have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star"
] |
>
You can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals."
] |
>
Depends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc"
] |
>
A 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand"
] |
>
Ima disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk."
] |
>
We are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps"
] |
>
There’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone."
] |
>
Similarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's "good but too expensive". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price.
Bro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food."
] |
>
It's a fair critique. "Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason." | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go."
] |
>
The average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\""
] |
>
I like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection."
] |
>
Sometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations."
] |
>
Perfect score usually means a lie.
Most people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them"
] |
>
Also no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.
I don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.
If there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth."
] |
>
I automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones."
] |
>
More like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely."
] |
>
There is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews."
] |
>
I broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever."
] |
>
It looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star"
] |
>
It also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses | [
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies."
] |
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Keep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses"
] |
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I always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review."
] |
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At this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account."
] |
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apparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5."
] |
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Relevant xkcd | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings"
] |
>
I couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd"
] |
>
4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review.
Good reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations.
Bad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot."
] |
>
That is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague."
] |
>
I won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score."
] |
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2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars."
] |
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I don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside."
] |
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In México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8 | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis."
] |
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And I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business? | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8"
] |
>
any round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.
when i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?"
] |
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Review Count is important.
There was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't"
] |
>
True. I often check the reviews regardless.
Their nickname often feel to "corporate" to be trusted it's often "John Smith" or "Megan B."
I would trust more "Darkangel64" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than "Jane Whatson" with "excellent product! Delivery on time" | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones."
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Are you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder? | [
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\""
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If you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then :
p = (sn+1)/(n+2)
Imagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:
p = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%
When you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously).
Not the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :
p ≈ s + 1/n | [
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?"
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The only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host | [
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n"
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Depends where Amazon that seems odd but 5 stars on Google for a local restaurant that's fine. | [
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n",
">\n\nThe only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host"
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I almost never trust a five star review. Who is ever THAT satisfied with a product? | [
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n",
">\n\nThe only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host",
">\n\nDepends where Amazon that seems odd but 5 stars on Google for a local restaurant that's fine."
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I mean if I see 5 stars with thousands of reviews that’s got to be elite quality | [
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n",
">\n\nThe only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host",
">\n\nDepends where Amazon that seems odd but 5 stars on Google for a local restaurant that's fine.",
">\n\nI almost never trust a five star review. Who is ever THAT satisfied with a product?"
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Because it's almost impossible to have a ton of reviews with 5 stars. If they do, the company is deleting the lower ratings. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n",
">\n\nThe only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host",
">\n\nDepends where Amazon that seems odd but 5 stars on Google for a local restaurant that's fine.",
">\n\nI almost never trust a five star review. Who is ever THAT satisfied with a product?",
">\n\nI mean if I see 5 stars with thousands of reviews that’s got to be elite quality"
] |
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Both can be bad. But 5 star with 10 reviews looks worse than 4.7 star with 10000 reviews | [
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n",
">\n\nThe only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host",
">\n\nDepends where Amazon that seems odd but 5 stars on Google for a local restaurant that's fine.",
">\n\nI almost never trust a five star review. Who is ever THAT satisfied with a product?",
">\n\nI mean if I see 5 stars with thousands of reviews that’s got to be elite quality",
">\n\nBecause it's almost impossible to have a ton of reviews with 5 stars. If they do, the company is deleting the lower ratings."
] |
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When it comes to reviews, for the most part quantity is better than quality. Thousands of people rating a new product at 4.5+ stars is better than just a few reviews at 5 star reviews typically. However, some products may have bots or people that get payed to leave good reviews, which can make poor products look great, meaning the other products that have significantly less reviews but a better rating may actually be the better product. | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n",
">\n\nThe only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host",
">\n\nDepends where Amazon that seems odd but 5 stars on Google for a local restaurant that's fine.",
">\n\nI almost never trust a five star review. Who is ever THAT satisfied with a product?",
">\n\nI mean if I see 5 stars with thousands of reviews that’s got to be elite quality",
">\n\nBecause it's almost impossible to have a ton of reviews with 5 stars. If they do, the company is deleting the lower ratings.",
">\n\nBoth can be bad. But 5 star with 10 reviews looks worse than 4.7 star with 10000 reviews"
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n",
">\n\nThe only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host",
">\n\nDepends where Amazon that seems odd but 5 stars on Google for a local restaurant that's fine.",
">\n\nI almost never trust a five star review. Who is ever THAT satisfied with a product?",
">\n\nI mean if I see 5 stars with thousands of reviews that’s got to be elite quality",
">\n\nBecause it's almost impossible to have a ton of reviews with 5 stars. If they do, the company is deleting the lower ratings.",
">\n\nBoth can be bad. But 5 star with 10 reviews looks worse than 4.7 star with 10000 reviews",
">\n\nWhen it comes to reviews, for the most part quantity is better than quality. Thousands of people rating a new product at 4.5+ stars is better than just a few reviews at 5 star reviews typically. However, some products may have bots or people that get payed to leave good reviews, which can make poor products look great, meaning the other products that have significantly less reviews but a better rating may actually be the better product."
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Don't forget sample size. 4.7(2000 reviews) beats 5.0(3 reviews). | [
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n",
">\n\nThe only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host",
">\n\nDepends where Amazon that seems odd but 5 stars on Google for a local restaurant that's fine.",
">\n\nI almost never trust a five star review. Who is ever THAT satisfied with a product?",
">\n\nI mean if I see 5 stars with thousands of reviews that’s got to be elite quality",
">\n\nBecause it's almost impossible to have a ton of reviews with 5 stars. If they do, the company is deleting the lower ratings.",
">\n\nBoth can be bad. But 5 star with 10 reviews looks worse than 4.7 star with 10000 reviews",
">\n\nWhen it comes to reviews, for the most part quantity is better than quality. Thousands of people rating a new product at 4.5+ stars is better than just a few reviews at 5 star reviews typically. However, some products may have bots or people that get payed to leave good reviews, which can make poor products look great, meaning the other products that have significantly less reviews but a better rating may actually be the better product.",
">\n\n\nthat get paid to leave\n\nFTFY.\nAlthough payed exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:\n\n\nNautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. The deck is yet to be payed.\n\n\nPayed out when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. The rope is payed out! You can pull now.\n\n\nUnfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.\nBeep, boop, I'm a bot"
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Yep. Exactly. And with many places requiring that your rating is in single star increments, it takes a lot more ratings to achieve a 4.7, which means a lot more feedback. | [
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n",
">\n\nThe only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host",
">\n\nDepends where Amazon that seems odd but 5 stars on Google for a local restaurant that's fine.",
">\n\nI almost never trust a five star review. Who is ever THAT satisfied with a product?",
">\n\nI mean if I see 5 stars with thousands of reviews that’s got to be elite quality",
">\n\nBecause it's almost impossible to have a ton of reviews with 5 stars. If they do, the company is deleting the lower ratings.",
">\n\nBoth can be bad. But 5 star with 10 reviews looks worse than 4.7 star with 10000 reviews",
">\n\nWhen it comes to reviews, for the most part quantity is better than quality. Thousands of people rating a new product at 4.5+ stars is better than just a few reviews at 5 star reviews typically. However, some products may have bots or people that get payed to leave good reviews, which can make poor products look great, meaning the other products that have significantly less reviews but a better rating may actually be the better product.",
">\n\n\nthat get paid to leave\n\nFTFY.\nAlthough payed exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:\n\n\nNautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. The deck is yet to be payed.\n\n\nPayed out when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. The rope is payed out! You can pull now.\n\n\nUnfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.\nBeep, boop, I'm a bot",
">\n\nDon't forget sample size. 4.7(2000 reviews) beats 5.0(3 reviews)."
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You need that 10th dentist to disagree with the other 9 or else it'll look like you paid them all off. | [
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n",
">\n\nThe only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host",
">\n\nDepends where Amazon that seems odd but 5 stars on Google for a local restaurant that's fine.",
">\n\nI almost never trust a five star review. Who is ever THAT satisfied with a product?",
">\n\nI mean if I see 5 stars with thousands of reviews that’s got to be elite quality",
">\n\nBecause it's almost impossible to have a ton of reviews with 5 stars. If they do, the company is deleting the lower ratings.",
">\n\nBoth can be bad. But 5 star with 10 reviews looks worse than 4.7 star with 10000 reviews",
">\n\nWhen it comes to reviews, for the most part quantity is better than quality. Thousands of people rating a new product at 4.5+ stars is better than just a few reviews at 5 star reviews typically. However, some products may have bots or people that get payed to leave good reviews, which can make poor products look great, meaning the other products that have significantly less reviews but a better rating may actually be the better product.",
">\n\n\nthat get paid to leave\n\nFTFY.\nAlthough payed exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:\n\n\nNautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. The deck is yet to be payed.\n\n\nPayed out when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. The rope is payed out! You can pull now.\n\n\nUnfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.\nBeep, boop, I'm a bot",
">\n\nDon't forget sample size. 4.7(2000 reviews) beats 5.0(3 reviews).",
">\n\nYep. Exactly. And with many places requiring that your rating is in single star increments, it takes a lot more ratings to achieve a 4.7, which means a lot more feedback."
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And this is why some bots post one star reviews saying they loved the product. | [
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n",
">\n\nThe only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host",
">\n\nDepends where Amazon that seems odd but 5 stars on Google for a local restaurant that's fine.",
">\n\nI almost never trust a five star review. Who is ever THAT satisfied with a product?",
">\n\nI mean if I see 5 stars with thousands of reviews that’s got to be elite quality",
">\n\nBecause it's almost impossible to have a ton of reviews with 5 stars. If they do, the company is deleting the lower ratings.",
">\n\nBoth can be bad. But 5 star with 10 reviews looks worse than 4.7 star with 10000 reviews",
">\n\nWhen it comes to reviews, for the most part quantity is better than quality. Thousands of people rating a new product at 4.5+ stars is better than just a few reviews at 5 star reviews typically. However, some products may have bots or people that get payed to leave good reviews, which can make poor products look great, meaning the other products that have significantly less reviews but a better rating may actually be the better product.",
">\n\n\nthat get paid to leave\n\nFTFY.\nAlthough payed exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:\n\n\nNautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. The deck is yet to be payed.\n\n\nPayed out when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. The rope is payed out! You can pull now.\n\n\nUnfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.\nBeep, boop, I'm a bot",
">\n\nDon't forget sample size. 4.7(2000 reviews) beats 5.0(3 reviews).",
">\n\nYep. Exactly. And with many places requiring that your rating is in single star increments, it takes a lot more ratings to achieve a 4.7, which means a lot more feedback.",
">\n\nYou need that 10th dentist to disagree with the other 9 or else it'll look like you paid them all off."
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Now this is a showerthought. This subs content has gotten so bad I’ve decided to unfollow it. | [
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n",
">\n\nThe only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host",
">\n\nDepends where Amazon that seems odd but 5 stars on Google for a local restaurant that's fine.",
">\n\nI almost never trust a five star review. Who is ever THAT satisfied with a product?",
">\n\nI mean if I see 5 stars with thousands of reviews that’s got to be elite quality",
">\n\nBecause it's almost impossible to have a ton of reviews with 5 stars. If they do, the company is deleting the lower ratings.",
">\n\nBoth can be bad. But 5 star with 10 reviews looks worse than 4.7 star with 10000 reviews",
">\n\nWhen it comes to reviews, for the most part quantity is better than quality. Thousands of people rating a new product at 4.5+ stars is better than just a few reviews at 5 star reviews typically. However, some products may have bots or people that get payed to leave good reviews, which can make poor products look great, meaning the other products that have significantly less reviews but a better rating may actually be the better product.",
">\n\n\nthat get paid to leave\n\nFTFY.\nAlthough payed exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:\n\n\nNautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. The deck is yet to be payed.\n\n\nPayed out when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. The rope is payed out! You can pull now.\n\n\nUnfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.\nBeep, boop, I'm a bot",
">\n\nDon't forget sample size. 4.7(2000 reviews) beats 5.0(3 reviews).",
">\n\nYep. Exactly. And with many places requiring that your rating is in single star increments, it takes a lot more ratings to achieve a 4.7, which means a lot more feedback.",
">\n\nYou need that 10th dentist to disagree with the other 9 or else it'll look like you paid them all off.",
">\n\nAnd this is why some bots post one star reviews saying they loved the product."
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Depends, if the 5 is surrounded by lower ratings then you’ve got what I call a ‘halo of trust’ at which point the lower scores reinforce the higher scores trust factor. | [
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n",
">\n\nThe only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host",
">\n\nDepends where Amazon that seems odd but 5 stars on Google for a local restaurant that's fine.",
">\n\nI almost never trust a five star review. Who is ever THAT satisfied with a product?",
">\n\nI mean if I see 5 stars with thousands of reviews that’s got to be elite quality",
">\n\nBecause it's almost impossible to have a ton of reviews with 5 stars. If they do, the company is deleting the lower ratings.",
">\n\nBoth can be bad. But 5 star with 10 reviews looks worse than 4.7 star with 10000 reviews",
">\n\nWhen it comes to reviews, for the most part quantity is better than quality. Thousands of people rating a new product at 4.5+ stars is better than just a few reviews at 5 star reviews typically. However, some products may have bots or people that get payed to leave good reviews, which can make poor products look great, meaning the other products that have significantly less reviews but a better rating may actually be the better product.",
">\n\n\nthat get paid to leave\n\nFTFY.\nAlthough payed exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:\n\n\nNautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. The deck is yet to be payed.\n\n\nPayed out when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. The rope is payed out! You can pull now.\n\n\nUnfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.\nBeep, boop, I'm a bot",
">\n\nDon't forget sample size. 4.7(2000 reviews) beats 5.0(3 reviews).",
">\n\nYep. Exactly. And with many places requiring that your rating is in single star increments, it takes a lot more ratings to achieve a 4.7, which means a lot more feedback.",
">\n\nYou need that 10th dentist to disagree with the other 9 or else it'll look like you paid them all off.",
">\n\nAnd this is why some bots post one star reviews saying they loved the product.",
">\n\nNow this is a showerthought. This subs content has gotten so bad I’ve decided to unfollow it."
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It's hard to trust any reviews these days.
Amazon sellers totally rig the reviews, and Yelp has 5 star reviews saying stuff the average customer wouldn't, like names of staff members "John was my waiter, he made me feel at home! Holly was the hostess, she seated us promptly."
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n",
">\n\nThe only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host",
">\n\nDepends where Amazon that seems odd but 5 stars on Google for a local restaurant that's fine.",
">\n\nI almost never trust a five star review. Who is ever THAT satisfied with a product?",
">\n\nI mean if I see 5 stars with thousands of reviews that’s got to be elite quality",
">\n\nBecause it's almost impossible to have a ton of reviews with 5 stars. If they do, the company is deleting the lower ratings.",
">\n\nBoth can be bad. But 5 star with 10 reviews looks worse than 4.7 star with 10000 reviews",
">\n\nWhen it comes to reviews, for the most part quantity is better than quality. Thousands of people rating a new product at 4.5+ stars is better than just a few reviews at 5 star reviews typically. However, some products may have bots or people that get payed to leave good reviews, which can make poor products look great, meaning the other products that have significantly less reviews but a better rating may actually be the better product.",
">\n\n\nthat get paid to leave\n\nFTFY.\nAlthough payed exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:\n\n\nNautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. The deck is yet to be payed.\n\n\nPayed out when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. The rope is payed out! You can pull now.\n\n\nUnfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.\nBeep, boop, I'm a bot",
">\n\nDon't forget sample size. 4.7(2000 reviews) beats 5.0(3 reviews).",
">\n\nYep. Exactly. And with many places requiring that your rating is in single star increments, it takes a lot more ratings to achieve a 4.7, which means a lot more feedback.",
">\n\nYou need that 10th dentist to disagree with the other 9 or else it'll look like you paid them all off.",
">\n\nAnd this is why some bots post one star reviews saying they loved the product.",
">\n\nNow this is a showerthought. This subs content has gotten so bad I’ve decided to unfollow it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the 5 is surrounded by lower ratings then you’ve got what I call a ‘halo of trust’ at which point the lower scores reinforce the higher scores trust factor."
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n",
">\n\nThe only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host",
">\n\nDepends where Amazon that seems odd but 5 stars on Google for a local restaurant that's fine.",
">\n\nI almost never trust a five star review. Who is ever THAT satisfied with a product?",
">\n\nI mean if I see 5 stars with thousands of reviews that’s got to be elite quality",
">\n\nBecause it's almost impossible to have a ton of reviews with 5 stars. If they do, the company is deleting the lower ratings.",
">\n\nBoth can be bad. But 5 star with 10 reviews looks worse than 4.7 star with 10000 reviews",
">\n\nWhen it comes to reviews, for the most part quantity is better than quality. Thousands of people rating a new product at 4.5+ stars is better than just a few reviews at 5 star reviews typically. However, some products may have bots or people that get payed to leave good reviews, which can make poor products look great, meaning the other products that have significantly less reviews but a better rating may actually be the better product.",
">\n\n\nthat get paid to leave\n\nFTFY.\nAlthough payed exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:\n\n\nNautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. The deck is yet to be payed.\n\n\nPayed out when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. The rope is payed out! You can pull now.\n\n\nUnfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.\nBeep, boop, I'm a bot",
">\n\nDon't forget sample size. 4.7(2000 reviews) beats 5.0(3 reviews).",
">\n\nYep. Exactly. And with many places requiring that your rating is in single star increments, it takes a lot more ratings to achieve a 4.7, which means a lot more feedback.",
">\n\nYou need that 10th dentist to disagree with the other 9 or else it'll look like you paid them all off.",
">\n\nAnd this is why some bots post one star reviews saying they loved the product.",
">\n\nNow this is a showerthought. This subs content has gotten so bad I’ve decided to unfollow it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the 5 is surrounded by lower ratings then you’ve got what I call a ‘halo of trust’ at which point the lower scores reinforce the higher scores trust factor.",
">\n\nIt's hard to trust any reviews these days.\nAmazon sellers totally rig the reviews, and Yelp has 5 star reviews saying stuff the average customer wouldn't, like names of staff members \"John was my waiter, he made me feel at home! Holly was the hostess, she seated us promptly.\"\nDon't get me started on Google reviews."
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A product has 10 ratings. Seven are 5 star and three are 4 star. The average rating would be 4.7. | [
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n",
">\n\nThe only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host",
">\n\nDepends where Amazon that seems odd but 5 stars on Google for a local restaurant that's fine.",
">\n\nI almost never trust a five star review. Who is ever THAT satisfied with a product?",
">\n\nI mean if I see 5 stars with thousands of reviews that’s got to be elite quality",
">\n\nBecause it's almost impossible to have a ton of reviews with 5 stars. If they do, the company is deleting the lower ratings.",
">\n\nBoth can be bad. But 5 star with 10 reviews looks worse than 4.7 star with 10000 reviews",
">\n\nWhen it comes to reviews, for the most part quantity is better than quality. Thousands of people rating a new product at 4.5+ stars is better than just a few reviews at 5 star reviews typically. However, some products may have bots or people that get payed to leave good reviews, which can make poor products look great, meaning the other products that have significantly less reviews but a better rating may actually be the better product.",
">\n\n\nthat get paid to leave\n\nFTFY.\nAlthough payed exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:\n\n\nNautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. The deck is yet to be payed.\n\n\nPayed out when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. The rope is payed out! You can pull now.\n\n\nUnfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.\nBeep, boop, I'm a bot",
">\n\nDon't forget sample size. 4.7(2000 reviews) beats 5.0(3 reviews).",
">\n\nYep. Exactly. And with many places requiring that your rating is in single star increments, it takes a lot more ratings to achieve a 4.7, which means a lot more feedback.",
">\n\nYou need that 10th dentist to disagree with the other 9 or else it'll look like you paid them all off.",
">\n\nAnd this is why some bots post one star reviews saying they loved the product.",
">\n\nNow this is a showerthought. This subs content has gotten so bad I’ve decided to unfollow it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the 5 is surrounded by lower ratings then you’ve got what I call a ‘halo of trust’ at which point the lower scores reinforce the higher scores trust factor.",
">\n\nIt's hard to trust any reviews these days.\nAmazon sellers totally rig the reviews, and Yelp has 5 star reviews saying stuff the average customer wouldn't, like names of staff members \"John was my waiter, he made me feel at home! Holly was the hostess, she seated us promptly.\"\nDon't get me started on Google reviews.",
">\n\nOn a typical 1-5 star rating system, how does one go about carving up a \"star\" to make it 0.7?"
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Yes, I know math too. How does one "INDIVIDUALLY" rate a product 4.7 when your only choices are whole stars and not able to fractionalize them. | [
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n",
">\n\nThe only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host",
">\n\nDepends where Amazon that seems odd but 5 stars on Google for a local restaurant that's fine.",
">\n\nI almost never trust a five star review. Who is ever THAT satisfied with a product?",
">\n\nI mean if I see 5 stars with thousands of reviews that’s got to be elite quality",
">\n\nBecause it's almost impossible to have a ton of reviews with 5 stars. If they do, the company is deleting the lower ratings.",
">\n\nBoth can be bad. But 5 star with 10 reviews looks worse than 4.7 star with 10000 reviews",
">\n\nWhen it comes to reviews, for the most part quantity is better than quality. Thousands of people rating a new product at 4.5+ stars is better than just a few reviews at 5 star reviews typically. However, some products may have bots or people that get payed to leave good reviews, which can make poor products look great, meaning the other products that have significantly less reviews but a better rating may actually be the better product.",
">\n\n\nthat get paid to leave\n\nFTFY.\nAlthough payed exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:\n\n\nNautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. The deck is yet to be payed.\n\n\nPayed out when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. The rope is payed out! You can pull now.\n\n\nUnfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.\nBeep, boop, I'm a bot",
">\n\nDon't forget sample size. 4.7(2000 reviews) beats 5.0(3 reviews).",
">\n\nYep. Exactly. And with many places requiring that your rating is in single star increments, it takes a lot more ratings to achieve a 4.7, which means a lot more feedback.",
">\n\nYou need that 10th dentist to disagree with the other 9 or else it'll look like you paid them all off.",
">\n\nAnd this is why some bots post one star reviews saying they loved the product.",
">\n\nNow this is a showerthought. This subs content has gotten so bad I’ve decided to unfollow it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the 5 is surrounded by lower ratings then you’ve got what I call a ‘halo of trust’ at which point the lower scores reinforce the higher scores trust factor.",
">\n\nIt's hard to trust any reviews these days.\nAmazon sellers totally rig the reviews, and Yelp has 5 star reviews saying stuff the average customer wouldn't, like names of staff members \"John was my waiter, he made me feel at home! Holly was the hostess, she seated us promptly.\"\nDon't get me started on Google reviews.",
">\n\nOn a typical 1-5 star rating system, how does one go about carving up a \"star\" to make it 0.7?",
">\n\nA product has 10 ratings. Seven are 5 star and three are 4 star. The average rating would be 4.7."
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n",
">\n\nThe only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host",
">\n\nDepends where Amazon that seems odd but 5 stars on Google for a local restaurant that's fine.",
">\n\nI almost never trust a five star review. Who is ever THAT satisfied with a product?",
">\n\nI mean if I see 5 stars with thousands of reviews that’s got to be elite quality",
">\n\nBecause it's almost impossible to have a ton of reviews with 5 stars. If they do, the company is deleting the lower ratings.",
">\n\nBoth can be bad. But 5 star with 10 reviews looks worse than 4.7 star with 10000 reviews",
">\n\nWhen it comes to reviews, for the most part quantity is better than quality. Thousands of people rating a new product at 4.5+ stars is better than just a few reviews at 5 star reviews typically. However, some products may have bots or people that get payed to leave good reviews, which can make poor products look great, meaning the other products that have significantly less reviews but a better rating may actually be the better product.",
">\n\n\nthat get paid to leave\n\nFTFY.\nAlthough payed exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:\n\n\nNautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. The deck is yet to be payed.\n\n\nPayed out when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. The rope is payed out! You can pull now.\n\n\nUnfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.\nBeep, boop, I'm a bot",
">\n\nDon't forget sample size. 4.7(2000 reviews) beats 5.0(3 reviews).",
">\n\nYep. Exactly. And with many places requiring that your rating is in single star increments, it takes a lot more ratings to achieve a 4.7, which means a lot more feedback.",
">\n\nYou need that 10th dentist to disagree with the other 9 or else it'll look like you paid them all off.",
">\n\nAnd this is why some bots post one star reviews saying they loved the product.",
">\n\nNow this is a showerthought. This subs content has gotten so bad I’ve decided to unfollow it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the 5 is surrounded by lower ratings then you’ve got what I call a ‘halo of trust’ at which point the lower scores reinforce the higher scores trust factor.",
">\n\nIt's hard to trust any reviews these days.\nAmazon sellers totally rig the reviews, and Yelp has 5 star reviews saying stuff the average customer wouldn't, like names of staff members \"John was my waiter, he made me feel at home! Holly was the hostess, she seated us promptly.\"\nDon't get me started on Google reviews.",
">\n\nOn a typical 1-5 star rating system, how does one go about carving up a \"star\" to make it 0.7?",
">\n\nA product has 10 ratings. Seven are 5 star and three are 4 star. The average rating would be 4.7.",
">\n\nYes, I know math too. How does one \"INDIVIDUALLY\" rate a product 4.7 when your only choices are whole stars and not able to fractionalize them."
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n",
">\n\nThe only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host",
">\n\nDepends where Amazon that seems odd but 5 stars on Google for a local restaurant that's fine.",
">\n\nI almost never trust a five star review. Who is ever THAT satisfied with a product?",
">\n\nI mean if I see 5 stars with thousands of reviews that’s got to be elite quality",
">\n\nBecause it's almost impossible to have a ton of reviews with 5 stars. If they do, the company is deleting the lower ratings.",
">\n\nBoth can be bad. But 5 star with 10 reviews looks worse than 4.7 star with 10000 reviews",
">\n\nWhen it comes to reviews, for the most part quantity is better than quality. Thousands of people rating a new product at 4.5+ stars is better than just a few reviews at 5 star reviews typically. However, some products may have bots or people that get payed to leave good reviews, which can make poor products look great, meaning the other products that have significantly less reviews but a better rating may actually be the better product.",
">\n\n\nthat get paid to leave\n\nFTFY.\nAlthough payed exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:\n\n\nNautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. The deck is yet to be payed.\n\n\nPayed out when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. The rope is payed out! You can pull now.\n\n\nUnfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.\nBeep, boop, I'm a bot",
">\n\nDon't forget sample size. 4.7(2000 reviews) beats 5.0(3 reviews).",
">\n\nYep. Exactly. And with many places requiring that your rating is in single star increments, it takes a lot more ratings to achieve a 4.7, which means a lot more feedback.",
">\n\nYou need that 10th dentist to disagree with the other 9 or else it'll look like you paid them all off.",
">\n\nAnd this is why some bots post one star reviews saying they loved the product.",
">\n\nNow this is a showerthought. This subs content has gotten so bad I’ve decided to unfollow it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the 5 is surrounded by lower ratings then you’ve got what I call a ‘halo of trust’ at which point the lower scores reinforce the higher scores trust factor.",
">\n\nIt's hard to trust any reviews these days.\nAmazon sellers totally rig the reviews, and Yelp has 5 star reviews saying stuff the average customer wouldn't, like names of staff members \"John was my waiter, he made me feel at home! Holly was the hostess, she seated us promptly.\"\nDon't get me started on Google reviews.",
">\n\nOn a typical 1-5 star rating system, how does one go about carving up a \"star\" to make it 0.7?",
">\n\nA product has 10 ratings. Seven are 5 star and three are 4 star. The average rating would be 4.7.",
">\n\nYes, I know math too. How does one \"INDIVIDUALLY\" rate a product 4.7 when your only choices are whole stars and not able to fractionalize them.",
">\n\nIt's not something individual"
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">\n\nIdk if i see a 5 star review i then check the review count as well.",
">\n\nWow 5 stars! Oh it has only one review and it's written by their company. 4.7 stars with 2,000 reviews? Absolutely!",
">\n\nItt: reddit discovers the concept of sample size.",
">\n\nAll 2000 were given away free to review.",
">\n\nOr they're bots",
">\n\nYeah you can't convince me all these amazon brands solely exist to be owned by amazon to be reviewed by amazon bots. That is why amazon makes so much money they make products in every sector",
">\n\nNot true. Amazon has not had financial success with their Amazon-branded lines. Some have stuck around, but if you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. Amazon loses money on most retail they sell of their own brands. They have been making money on their media company and AWS, retail business posted a nearly 200 billion dollar loss of Q3 2022.",
">\n\n\nif you know anything about store brands, they have no margin. \n\nI think you're incorrect on that. All the information I've seen indicates that stores make a bigger profit margin on their in-house brands than they do on outside brands. The store has lower product development, marketing, and distribution costs, and they control the production and development chains. \nIt doesn't make much sense that a company would offer a store brand if they made less money on it than they would on the same product from an outside brand.",
">\n\n5 star ratings are super fluffed with bots. \n3-4 star ratings tell the true story. 1 star ratings are usually people who got lemons or whiners.",
">\n\nWorst is Amazon who have him just one rating whereas there should be two. One for the product and one for their service.\nPlenty of reviews rating a product 1 star because amazons fulfillment of the order did not meet their expectations. No criticism of the product itself.",
">\n\n“It’s the best product I’ve ever bought but was delivered a couple minutes late. ONE STAR!”",
">\n\nMy favorite part of Amazon is: \"Does this product support X?\"\n\"Dont know, I returned mine\"",
">\n\nLol yeah those are old people that don't understand that when they get those emails asking product questions, that they're not actually asking them specifically.",
">\n\n4.7 star: ok this is a decent product with the usual amount of manufacturing issues/ idiots not using it for what it what was intended for.\n5 star: I immediately assume all ratings are paid for with free shit.",
">\n\n4000 reviews on a 4.7/5 is more helpful than 10 reviews on a 5/5 imo.",
">\n\nWhat about 5/5 with 4000 reviews?",
">\n\nFake",
">\n\nOr maybe just a really really good product 🤔 🤔🤔",
">\n\nSomeone will always rate it lower than 5. Possibly due to shipping issues or defect and possibly just to be that guy",
">\n\nOr just due to pure stupidity.\nRating: 0 out of 5. Review: \"Is top product, does everything wery goodly\"",
">\n\n1/5 \"I don't own this product\"",
">\n\nIt’s true because 5.0 rating with more than say 100 reviews is bought, full-stop. You could be Jesus Christ giving out free fish and bread and a random sampling of 100 people would have 10 people giving you 1 star because they’re allergic.",
">\n\nYeah, if you tell 100 people to say yes, even under threat of death, at least 3 will answer No, out of spite, joke or pure stupidity. There was a name for that, I read it recently on reddit",
">\n\nSounds interesting.. anyone knows?",
">\n\nI think it’s just called stupidity",
">\n\nI make a podcast called The Movie Bluffs, and I had this same thought when we got one 1 star review from someone who didn’t like it, which brought us down to 4.6. I had a talk with my buddy about how at least that let people know all the reviews aren’t just our friends trying to boost us up.",
">\n\nWell... All the reviews except that one.",
">\n\nTo be honest, all the reviews except two. There was a mystery 5 star in there.",
">\n\nThat one was from your mom.",
">\n\nNope, she was the one star.",
">\n\nI just consider 4 an actual 5.\nKaren’s 1 star review because she doesn’t understand how shipping works gets cut.",
">\n\nAnything over 90% I assume it's just paid reviews. If you see that ton of high, ton of low, no middle it's definitely bought.",
">\n\nWhat if it happens to be a genuinely good product with plenty of satisfied customers?",
">\n\nUsually you end up with a peak at 100% sharply dropping until around 60% then minimal occurances below. People like to complain, especially about of things out of a merchants control like shipping. Also if it's genuinely good you usually find a very large volume of typed reviews from real people not obvious bots/paid reviews.",
">\n\nThink that last bit is especially true, in-depth and detailed reviews are more reliable than a few words of shallow praise.",
">\n\nespecially if the 1 star review says something like:\n\nThis product was BROKEN! and I had to return it and wait for a new one which is now working fine\n\nsome people are idiots",
">\n\n\"I ordered this green product and I hate green! 1 star\"",
">\n\n\"Beautiful color. Very happy. 1 star.\"",
">\n\nI ordered some green glasses to help me with my color blindness and they sent THE GRAY ONES!\n1 Star",
">\n\nPeople have rated it more than once or twice when the star rating is in decimals.",
">\n\nYou can get x.5 with 2 people, x.3/x.7 with 3 people etc",
">\n\nDepends on if you can see the review count or not. A 4.7 with 1000 reviews is more impressive than a 5.0 with 4. But a 5.0 with 100 reviews is more impressive than a 4.7 with a thousand",
">\n\nA 5.0 with 100 reviews is a company that bought 100 reviews off Amazon Turk.",
">\n\nIma disagree with this one. It depends on how many reviews it has. If something has like eighteen reviews at five stars. You right. Like whatever. If a local restaurant has a thousand reviews and a full five stars, you know that mess slaps",
">\n\nWe are ignoring that situation because it's very very unlikely. Can't please everyone.",
">\n\nThere’s the authentic Chinese restaurant rule. The best ones have a lot of 5 stars for the food, and many 1 stars for shitty service. Authentic Chinatown places just have a different service model that Americans aren’t used to. PF Changs gets great rating usually. Because you know what you’re gonna get and it’s perfectly yummy. It’s just not the best food.",
">\n\nSimilarly for high enders you're going to get lots of 5 stars if it's good and like a couple of cranky people giving them 1-3 stars because it's \"good but too expensive\". They'll even mention the same things as the positive reviews but keep bringing up the price. \nBro if it's that out of your budget why did you even go.",
">\n\nIt's a fair critique. \"Same quality as Joe's Steakhouse, but they up-charge for no reason.\"",
">\n\nThe average consumer cant tell the difference between quality and perfection.",
">\n\nI like to check the 1 star ratings to see what people complain about. On a 4.7 star product, the 1 star reviews are often an issue of the customer didn't bother really read what they were ordering and had unrealistic expectations.",
">\n\nSometimes people use the 1 star with a little too much power too. I saw a 1 star review for a restaurant in my city that described it as an average restaurant in the review that was written. No problems or anything the person didn’t like that it wasn’t over the top for them",
">\n\nPerfect score usually means a lie.\nMost people love it, except for some haters who gonna hate, now, that's usually the truth.",
">\n\nAlso no negative reviews usually raises an eyebrow.\nI don't care how great your product and company is, if you're selling any significant volume, sooner or later you will commit a few fuckups that will annoy someone enough to write about it.\nIf there's no credible negatives in a large set of reviews, you're either deleting them or fabricating positive ones.",
">\n\nI automatically think 5 star ratings are all fake and paid for so I ignore them completely.",
">\n\nMore like a 4.5-star rating from 500 reviews looks better than a 5-star rating from 5 reviews.",
">\n\nThere is a dentist's office in my city that has over 2000 reviews and a perfect 5 star rating. Not sure if gaming the system or actually the best dentist ever.",
">\n\nI broke the item after ignoring the instructions because there were no instructions telling me to read the instructions. How was I supposed to know to read the instructions? 1-star",
">\n\nIt looks better because a 5 star rating (out of 5) indicates that too few has rated it. I have yet to see a 5 star rating (or just all max rating) that very few revies.",
">\n\nIt also depends on what's being reviewed. I'm a lot more skeptical of product reviews compared to restaurants and other businesses",
">\n\nKeep in mind Amazon sellers can change their product's page to an entirely different product while keeping reviews/stars of the previous product they sold, therefore making the new product they put up look like it's absolutely amazing. Don't judge an item based on the reviews without actually looking at recent reviews, and especially check the 3 star reviews because I can't tell you how many times I've gotten little cards in my product boxes telling me I'd get a $10-$30 Amazon gift card for leaving a 5 star review.",
">\n\nI always look at the number of reviews no matter what the rating is. Anything less than around 50 and I don’t take the rating into account.",
">\n\nAt this point I don't even bother to check the number of ratings on the products/services that have 5 stars. Unless they're written inside a bracket just after the 5.",
">\n\napparently companies can delete reviews so they could just rig their ratings",
">\n\nRelevant xkcd",
">\n\nI couldn't find a source for this, but I work in marketing and have heard from several clients that Amazon review bot companies specifically target 4.7 stars. Research shows that products between 4.0 and 4.7 stars sell best, so getting to the top end of that range is the sweet spot.",
">\n\n4.7 and 5 star average generally say the same thing; however, for a 4.7 product you have a lot more reading to do because there’s 20 bad reviews for every good review. \nGood reviews will tell you how every function of the product will perform. This allows you to directly determine if the product suits your exact needs and expectations. \nBad reviews are: copied from another similar product, from confused customers who can’t properly derive the function of the product, from customers who weren’t happy with the delivery of the product, or incredibly vague.",
">\n\nThat is factually incorrect. Things that matter are the amount of ratings it takes to get the rating. A 5 star product with 2000 reviews is better then one with 10 reviews getting 4.7 stars. You can't derive anything from just the score.",
">\n\nI won't trust a product on Amazon if every reviewer gives it 5 stars.",
">\n\n2.5-3 star ratings with detailed reviews are what you are looking for. People who hit 5 stars are either bots or people who've barely used the product. People who give 1 stars are upset because it took a month to ship, not because the product itself was poor. The middle ground is where most people reside.",
">\n\nI don’t take 5-star or 1-star reviews seriously. 5-stars looks like paid/robot reviews, 1-stars are mostly childish people who were offended by random inconveniences that don’t happen on a consistent basis.",
">\n\nIn México Uber drivers will cancel you ride if you have 5 star rating. Luckily I’ve got 4.8",
">\n\nAnd I always take the time to look at the one star reviews. Is the reviewer just being a cunt, or do they have a legitimate grievance that needs to be addressed by the business?",
">\n\nany round number comes across as more of a guess while a number like 4.7 seems as it it has some reason for it's specificity.\nwhen i would bid jobs i would always quote a specific amount rather than a round number. my bids would be $4994.17 instead of $5000. it made people THINK i had worked the numbers to get that as low as possible.....i didn't",
">\n\nReview Count is important. \nThere was an 80/20 rule I heard a while back. It was summed up to be that it's rare for someone to go out of their way to say good things when they are satisfied but will almost always go out of their way to when they are dissatisfied. 80% of the reviews would be negative comments and 20% are the positive ones.",
">\n\nTrue. I often check the reviews regardless.\nTheir nickname often feel to \"corporate\" to be trusted it's often \"John Smith\" or \"Megan B.\"\nI would trust more \"Darkangel64\" with a shitload of grammar butchering but at least a genuine review than \"Jane Whatson\" with \"excellent product! Delivery on time\"",
">\n\nAre you one of those people the think that a third of a pound burger is smaller than a quarter pounder?",
">\n\nIf you want to estimate the probability that you'll enjoy the product, you just need the success rate s (for example 4/5 stars would give s = 0.8) and the number of reviews n. Your probability is then : \np = (sn+1)/(n+2)\nImagine I have a product with a rating of 4/5 with 10 reviews, then the probability that I'll enjoy it is:\np = (0.8*10 + 1)(10+2) = 9/12 = 75%\nWhen you compare products you need to compare that probability, not the rating (you already do this subconsciously). \nNot the easiest of formulas but simple enough for this. Although if your number of reviews is big enough (n ≥ 40) you can use this instead :\np ≈ s + 1/n",
">\n\nThe only true 5/5 rating I found is Jellyfin on IOS. Absolutely 5/5 if you can properly set up your host",
">\n\nDepends where Amazon that seems odd but 5 stars on Google for a local restaurant that's fine.",
">\n\nI almost never trust a five star review. Who is ever THAT satisfied with a product?",
">\n\nI mean if I see 5 stars with thousands of reviews that’s got to be elite quality",
">\n\nBecause it's almost impossible to have a ton of reviews with 5 stars. If they do, the company is deleting the lower ratings.",
">\n\nBoth can be bad. But 5 star with 10 reviews looks worse than 4.7 star with 10000 reviews",
">\n\nWhen it comes to reviews, for the most part quantity is better than quality. Thousands of people rating a new product at 4.5+ stars is better than just a few reviews at 5 star reviews typically. However, some products may have bots or people that get payed to leave good reviews, which can make poor products look great, meaning the other products that have significantly less reviews but a better rating may actually be the better product.",
">\n\n\nthat get paid to leave\n\nFTFY.\nAlthough payed exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:\n\n\nNautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. The deck is yet to be payed.\n\n\nPayed out when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. The rope is payed out! You can pull now.\n\n\nUnfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.\nBeep, boop, I'm a bot",
">\n\nDon't forget sample size. 4.7(2000 reviews) beats 5.0(3 reviews).",
">\n\nYep. Exactly. And with many places requiring that your rating is in single star increments, it takes a lot more ratings to achieve a 4.7, which means a lot more feedback.",
">\n\nYou need that 10th dentist to disagree with the other 9 or else it'll look like you paid them all off.",
">\n\nAnd this is why some bots post one star reviews saying they loved the product.",
">\n\nNow this is a showerthought. This subs content has gotten so bad I’ve decided to unfollow it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the 5 is surrounded by lower ratings then you’ve got what I call a ‘halo of trust’ at which point the lower scores reinforce the higher scores trust factor.",
">\n\nIt's hard to trust any reviews these days.\nAmazon sellers totally rig the reviews, and Yelp has 5 star reviews saying stuff the average customer wouldn't, like names of staff members \"John was my waiter, he made me feel at home! Holly was the hostess, she seated us promptly.\"\nDon't get me started on Google reviews.",
">\n\nOn a typical 1-5 star rating system, how does one go about carving up a \"star\" to make it 0.7?",
">\n\nA product has 10 ratings. Seven are 5 star and three are 4 star. The average rating would be 4.7.",
">\n\nYes, I know math too. How does one \"INDIVIDUALLY\" rate a product 4.7 when your only choices are whole stars and not able to fractionalize them.",
">\n\nIt's not something individual",
">\n\nI guess I forgot the \"/s\""
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It is clear and evident what the current Azerbaijani regime intends to achieve by this (now going on for over one month) blockade of the single road connecting the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh with Armenia proper and the outside world.
It will once and for all rid all Armenians from Artsakh. That is the goal. Expect in a few weeks a decision by the Azeri dictator to open the road for Armenians in Artsakh to leave to Armenia proper.
The people of Artsakh have a well-deserved reputation among Armenians for resiliency, but even the bravest and most resilient have limits. With no incoming food, medicine, electricity and now internet, the people will have no choice but to leave. As a result, Azerbaijan will finally get what it always wanted; an ethnically cleansed Nagorno-Karabakh thanks to a bunch of "environmental protesters" and a world that didn't lift a finger to do anything about it.
Thereafter, the Russian "peace keeping" mission will have no peace to keep since the Armenians they were sent to protect will no longer exist. With no Armenians left in Nagorno-Karabakh they will merely be seen by the Azeri public as an occupying force. Then Aliyev will cry to the West that the Russians are occupying its internationally recognized territory. Russia might eventually leave with some sort of an economic/financial deal with Azerbaijan and just like that, the dictator in Azerbaijan will have what he always wanted. All of Karabakh.
But he (Aliyev) won't stop there. Once the Karabakh issue is finally "resolved", he will then aim at achieving the other thing he's been pressing for the last 2 years...a corridor connecting mainland Azerbaijan with Nakhichevan via southern Armenia. He will launch an attack into southern Armenia and will most likely take it given Azerbaijan's current military superiority over Armenia.
The Russians won't do anything because they're economically, politically and militarily depleted. Also, Russia wants nothing more than mainland Azerbaijan to finally connect with Nakhichevan; thus connecting it to Turkey. With achieving this, Russia will sell its gas masked as "Azeri gas" to Europe via Turkey.
The EU won't do anything other than a couple of "concerning" statements. After all, the EU traded buying gas from one autocratic country (Russia) for another (Azerbaijan).
The US is the only player that has little-to-no economic or political relationship with Azerbaijan (compared to the EU and Russia). They have the power to stop this but this can change depending on the next administration. The Biden administration (and his State Department) has been the most proactive in recent history regarding this issue. The US (under Biden) has been willing to call out Azerbaijan for numerous violations and even helped stop the September 2022 Azeri invasion into Armenia proper. Nancy Pelosi even visited Armenia back in September and met with the PM and other high-ranking officials in the country. However this can drastically change if a different administration takes over in 2 years; especially a Trump administration, who not only has business ties with both (as exposed in his tax returns) Turkey and Azerbaijan, but also holds an isolationist "America first" policy.
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"Will there ever be a resolution to determine the fate of Nagorno-Karabakh / Artsakh? I can't imagine that the Armenian and Azerbaijani people want to be in this situation forever.",
">\n\nIt is clear and evident what the current Azerbaijani regime intends to achieve by this (now going on for over one month) blockade of the single road connecting the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh with Armenia proper and the outside world.\nIt will once and for all rid all Armenians from Artsakh. That is the goal. Expect in a few weeks a decision by the Azeri dictator to open the road for Armenians in Artsakh to leave to Armenia proper.\nThe people of Artsakh have a well-deserved reputation among Armenians for resiliency, but even the bravest and most resilient have limits. With no incoming food, medicine, electricity and now internet, the people will have no choice but to leave. As a result, Azerbaijan will finally get what it always wanted; an ethnically cleansed Nagorno-Karabakh thanks to a bunch of \"environmental protesters\" and a world that didn't lift a finger to do anything about it.\nThereafter, the Russian \"peace keeping\" mission will have no peace to keep since the Armenians they were sent to protect will no longer exist. With no Armenians left in Nagorno-Karabakh they will merely be seen by the Azeri public as an occupying force. Then Aliyev will cry to the West that the Russians are occupying its internationally recognized territory. Russia might eventually leave with some sort of an economic/financial deal with Azerbaijan and just like that, the dictator in Azerbaijan will have what he always wanted. All of Karabakh.\nBut he (Aliyev) won't stop there. Once the Karabakh issue is finally \"resolved\", he will then aim at achieving the other thing he's been pressing for the last 2 years...a corridor connecting mainland Azerbaijan with Nakhichevan via southern Armenia. He will launch an attack into southern Armenia and will most likely take it given Azerbaijan's current military superiority over Armenia.\nThe Russians won't do anything because they're economically, politically and militarily depleted. Also, Russia wants nothing more than mainland Azerbaijan to finally connect with Nakhichevan; thus connecting it to Turkey. With achieving this, Russia will sell its gas masked as \"Azeri gas\" to Europe via Turkey.\nThe EU won't do anything other than a couple of \"concerning\" statements. After all, the EU traded buying gas from one autocratic country (Russia) for another (Azerbaijan).\nThe US is the only player that has little-to-no economic or political relationship with Azerbaijan (compared to the EU and Russia). They have the power to stop this but this can change depending on the next administration. The Biden administration (and his State Department) has been the most proactive in recent history regarding this issue. The US (under Biden) has been willing to call out Azerbaijan for numerous violations and even helped stop the September 2022 Azeri invasion into Armenia proper. Nancy Pelosi even visited Armenia back in September and met with the PM and other high-ranking officials in the country. However this can drastically change if a different administration takes over in 2 years; especially a Trump administration, who not only has business ties with both (as exposed in his tax returns) Turkey and Azerbaijan, but also holds an isolationist \"America first\" policy.\nSadly the world will once again stay silent as Armenians get slaughtered and Armenia seizes to exist."
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That seems like a bad thing to admit. | [
"Will there ever be a resolution to determine the fate of Nagorno-Karabakh / Artsakh? I can't imagine that the Armenian and Azerbaijani people want to be in this situation forever.",
">\n\nIt is clear and evident what the current Azerbaijani regime intends to achieve by this (now going on for over one month) blockade of the single road connecting the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh with Armenia proper and the outside world.\nIt will once and for all rid all Armenians from Artsakh. That is the goal. Expect in a few weeks a decision by the Azeri dictator to open the road for Armenians in Artsakh to leave to Armenia proper.\nThe people of Artsakh have a well-deserved reputation among Armenians for resiliency, but even the bravest and most resilient have limits. With no incoming food, medicine, electricity and now internet, the people will have no choice but to leave. As a result, Azerbaijan will finally get what it always wanted; an ethnically cleansed Nagorno-Karabakh thanks to a bunch of \"environmental protesters\" and a world that didn't lift a finger to do anything about it.\nThereafter, the Russian \"peace keeping\" mission will have no peace to keep since the Armenians they were sent to protect will no longer exist. With no Armenians left in Nagorno-Karabakh they will merely be seen by the Azeri public as an occupying force. Then Aliyev will cry to the West that the Russians are occupying its internationally recognized territory. Russia might eventually leave with some sort of an economic/financial deal with Azerbaijan and just like that, the dictator in Azerbaijan will have what he always wanted. All of Karabakh.\nBut he (Aliyev) won't stop there. Once the Karabakh issue is finally \"resolved\", he will then aim at achieving the other thing he's been pressing for the last 2 years...a corridor connecting mainland Azerbaijan with Nakhichevan via southern Armenia. He will launch an attack into southern Armenia and will most likely take it given Azerbaijan's current military superiority over Armenia.\nThe Russians won't do anything because they're economically, politically and militarily depleted. Also, Russia wants nothing more than mainland Azerbaijan to finally connect with Nakhichevan; thus connecting it to Turkey. With achieving this, Russia will sell its gas masked as \"Azeri gas\" to Europe via Turkey.\nThe EU won't do anything other than a couple of \"concerning\" statements. After all, the EU traded buying gas from one autocratic country (Russia) for another (Azerbaijan).\nThe US is the only player that has little-to-no economic or political relationship with Azerbaijan (compared to the EU and Russia). They have the power to stop this but this can change depending on the next administration. The Biden administration (and his State Department) has been the most proactive in recent history regarding this issue. The US (under Biden) has been willing to call out Azerbaijan for numerous violations and even helped stop the September 2022 Azeri invasion into Armenia proper. Nancy Pelosi even visited Armenia back in September and met with the PM and other high-ranking officials in the country. However this can drastically change if a different administration takes over in 2 years; especially a Trump administration, who not only has business ties with both (as exposed in his tax returns) Turkey and Azerbaijan, but also holds an isolationist \"America first\" policy.\nSadly the world will once again stay silent as Armenians get slaughtered and Armenia seizes to exist.",
">\n\nThanks for this mate"
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He was very open about his goal being ethnic cleansing before restarting the conflict two years ago. It didn't matter then internationally and is also an important part of his domestic branding. | [
"Will there ever be a resolution to determine the fate of Nagorno-Karabakh / Artsakh? I can't imagine that the Armenian and Azerbaijani people want to be in this situation forever.",
">\n\nIt is clear and evident what the current Azerbaijani regime intends to achieve by this (now going on for over one month) blockade of the single road connecting the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh with Armenia proper and the outside world.\nIt will once and for all rid all Armenians from Artsakh. That is the goal. Expect in a few weeks a decision by the Azeri dictator to open the road for Armenians in Artsakh to leave to Armenia proper.\nThe people of Artsakh have a well-deserved reputation among Armenians for resiliency, but even the bravest and most resilient have limits. With no incoming food, medicine, electricity and now internet, the people will have no choice but to leave. As a result, Azerbaijan will finally get what it always wanted; an ethnically cleansed Nagorno-Karabakh thanks to a bunch of \"environmental protesters\" and a world that didn't lift a finger to do anything about it.\nThereafter, the Russian \"peace keeping\" mission will have no peace to keep since the Armenians they were sent to protect will no longer exist. With no Armenians left in Nagorno-Karabakh they will merely be seen by the Azeri public as an occupying force. Then Aliyev will cry to the West that the Russians are occupying its internationally recognized territory. Russia might eventually leave with some sort of an economic/financial deal with Azerbaijan and just like that, the dictator in Azerbaijan will have what he always wanted. All of Karabakh.\nBut he (Aliyev) won't stop there. Once the Karabakh issue is finally \"resolved\", he will then aim at achieving the other thing he's been pressing for the last 2 years...a corridor connecting mainland Azerbaijan with Nakhichevan via southern Armenia. He will launch an attack into southern Armenia and will most likely take it given Azerbaijan's current military superiority over Armenia.\nThe Russians won't do anything because they're economically, politically and militarily depleted. Also, Russia wants nothing more than mainland Azerbaijan to finally connect with Nakhichevan; thus connecting it to Turkey. With achieving this, Russia will sell its gas masked as \"Azeri gas\" to Europe via Turkey.\nThe EU won't do anything other than a couple of \"concerning\" statements. After all, the EU traded buying gas from one autocratic country (Russia) for another (Azerbaijan).\nThe US is the only player that has little-to-no economic or political relationship with Azerbaijan (compared to the EU and Russia). They have the power to stop this but this can change depending on the next administration. The Biden administration (and his State Department) has been the most proactive in recent history regarding this issue. The US (under Biden) has been willing to call out Azerbaijan for numerous violations and even helped stop the September 2022 Azeri invasion into Armenia proper. Nancy Pelosi even visited Armenia back in September and met with the PM and other high-ranking officials in the country. However this can drastically change if a different administration takes over in 2 years; especially a Trump administration, who not only has business ties with both (as exposed in his tax returns) Turkey and Azerbaijan, but also holds an isolationist \"America first\" policy.\nSadly the world will once again stay silent as Armenians get slaughtered and Armenia seizes to exist.",
">\n\nThanks for this mate",
">\n\nThat seems like a bad thing to admit."
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In an ideal world , FOR Azerbaijanis and their Turkish masters , the Armenian Genocide would’ve made Armenians extinct . That’s the level of evil here | [
"Will there ever be a resolution to determine the fate of Nagorno-Karabakh / Artsakh? I can't imagine that the Armenian and Azerbaijani people want to be in this situation forever.",
">\n\nIt is clear and evident what the current Azerbaijani regime intends to achieve by this (now going on for over one month) blockade of the single road connecting the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh with Armenia proper and the outside world.\nIt will once and for all rid all Armenians from Artsakh. That is the goal. Expect in a few weeks a decision by the Azeri dictator to open the road for Armenians in Artsakh to leave to Armenia proper.\nThe people of Artsakh have a well-deserved reputation among Armenians for resiliency, but even the bravest and most resilient have limits. With no incoming food, medicine, electricity and now internet, the people will have no choice but to leave. As a result, Azerbaijan will finally get what it always wanted; an ethnically cleansed Nagorno-Karabakh thanks to a bunch of \"environmental protesters\" and a world that didn't lift a finger to do anything about it.\nThereafter, the Russian \"peace keeping\" mission will have no peace to keep since the Armenians they were sent to protect will no longer exist. With no Armenians left in Nagorno-Karabakh they will merely be seen by the Azeri public as an occupying force. Then Aliyev will cry to the West that the Russians are occupying its internationally recognized territory. Russia might eventually leave with some sort of an economic/financial deal with Azerbaijan and just like that, the dictator in Azerbaijan will have what he always wanted. All of Karabakh.\nBut he (Aliyev) won't stop there. Once the Karabakh issue is finally \"resolved\", he will then aim at achieving the other thing he's been pressing for the last 2 years...a corridor connecting mainland Azerbaijan with Nakhichevan via southern Armenia. He will launch an attack into southern Armenia and will most likely take it given Azerbaijan's current military superiority over Armenia.\nThe Russians won't do anything because they're economically, politically and militarily depleted. Also, Russia wants nothing more than mainland Azerbaijan to finally connect with Nakhichevan; thus connecting it to Turkey. With achieving this, Russia will sell its gas masked as \"Azeri gas\" to Europe via Turkey.\nThe EU won't do anything other than a couple of \"concerning\" statements. After all, the EU traded buying gas from one autocratic country (Russia) for another (Azerbaijan).\nThe US is the only player that has little-to-no economic or political relationship with Azerbaijan (compared to the EU and Russia). They have the power to stop this but this can change depending on the next administration. The Biden administration (and his State Department) has been the most proactive in recent history regarding this issue. The US (under Biden) has been willing to call out Azerbaijan for numerous violations and even helped stop the September 2022 Azeri invasion into Armenia proper. Nancy Pelosi even visited Armenia back in September and met with the PM and other high-ranking officials in the country. However this can drastically change if a different administration takes over in 2 years; especially a Trump administration, who not only has business ties with both (as exposed in his tax returns) Turkey and Azerbaijan, but also holds an isolationist \"America first\" policy.\nSadly the world will once again stay silent as Armenians get slaughtered and Armenia seizes to exist.",
">\n\nThanks for this mate",
">\n\nThat seems like a bad thing to admit.",
">\n\nHe was very open about his goal being ethnic cleansing before restarting the conflict two years ago. It didn't matter then internationally and is also an important part of his domestic branding."
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It shouldn't be news to anyone that azerbaijan's government seek genocide. | [
"Will there ever be a resolution to determine the fate of Nagorno-Karabakh / Artsakh? I can't imagine that the Armenian and Azerbaijani people want to be in this situation forever.",
">\n\nIt is clear and evident what the current Azerbaijani regime intends to achieve by this (now going on for over one month) blockade of the single road connecting the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh with Armenia proper and the outside world.\nIt will once and for all rid all Armenians from Artsakh. That is the goal. Expect in a few weeks a decision by the Azeri dictator to open the road for Armenians in Artsakh to leave to Armenia proper.\nThe people of Artsakh have a well-deserved reputation among Armenians for resiliency, but even the bravest and most resilient have limits. With no incoming food, medicine, electricity and now internet, the people will have no choice but to leave. As a result, Azerbaijan will finally get what it always wanted; an ethnically cleansed Nagorno-Karabakh thanks to a bunch of \"environmental protesters\" and a world that didn't lift a finger to do anything about it.\nThereafter, the Russian \"peace keeping\" mission will have no peace to keep since the Armenians they were sent to protect will no longer exist. With no Armenians left in Nagorno-Karabakh they will merely be seen by the Azeri public as an occupying force. Then Aliyev will cry to the West that the Russians are occupying its internationally recognized territory. Russia might eventually leave with some sort of an economic/financial deal with Azerbaijan and just like that, the dictator in Azerbaijan will have what he always wanted. All of Karabakh.\nBut he (Aliyev) won't stop there. Once the Karabakh issue is finally \"resolved\", he will then aim at achieving the other thing he's been pressing for the last 2 years...a corridor connecting mainland Azerbaijan with Nakhichevan via southern Armenia. He will launch an attack into southern Armenia and will most likely take it given Azerbaijan's current military superiority over Armenia.\nThe Russians won't do anything because they're economically, politically and militarily depleted. Also, Russia wants nothing more than mainland Azerbaijan to finally connect with Nakhichevan; thus connecting it to Turkey. With achieving this, Russia will sell its gas masked as \"Azeri gas\" to Europe via Turkey.\nThe EU won't do anything other than a couple of \"concerning\" statements. After all, the EU traded buying gas from one autocratic country (Russia) for another (Azerbaijan).\nThe US is the only player that has little-to-no economic or political relationship with Azerbaijan (compared to the EU and Russia). They have the power to stop this but this can change depending on the next administration. The Biden administration (and his State Department) has been the most proactive in recent history regarding this issue. The US (under Biden) has been willing to call out Azerbaijan for numerous violations and even helped stop the September 2022 Azeri invasion into Armenia proper. Nancy Pelosi even visited Armenia back in September and met with the PM and other high-ranking officials in the country. However this can drastically change if a different administration takes over in 2 years; especially a Trump administration, who not only has business ties with both (as exposed in his tax returns) Turkey and Azerbaijan, but also holds an isolationist \"America first\" policy.\nSadly the world will once again stay silent as Armenians get slaughtered and Armenia seizes to exist.",
">\n\nThanks for this mate",
">\n\nThat seems like a bad thing to admit.",
">\n\nHe was very open about his goal being ethnic cleansing before restarting the conflict two years ago. It didn't matter then internationally and is also an important part of his domestic branding.",
">\n\nIn an ideal world , FOR Azerbaijanis and their Turkish masters , the Armenian Genocide would’ve made Armenians extinct . That’s the level of evil here"
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Azerbaijan is a terrorist state | [
"Will there ever be a resolution to determine the fate of Nagorno-Karabakh / Artsakh? I can't imagine that the Armenian and Azerbaijani people want to be in this situation forever.",
">\n\nIt is clear and evident what the current Azerbaijani regime intends to achieve by this (now going on for over one month) blockade of the single road connecting the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh with Armenia proper and the outside world.\nIt will once and for all rid all Armenians from Artsakh. That is the goal. Expect in a few weeks a decision by the Azeri dictator to open the road for Armenians in Artsakh to leave to Armenia proper.\nThe people of Artsakh have a well-deserved reputation among Armenians for resiliency, but even the bravest and most resilient have limits. With no incoming food, medicine, electricity and now internet, the people will have no choice but to leave. As a result, Azerbaijan will finally get what it always wanted; an ethnically cleansed Nagorno-Karabakh thanks to a bunch of \"environmental protesters\" and a world that didn't lift a finger to do anything about it.\nThereafter, the Russian \"peace keeping\" mission will have no peace to keep since the Armenians they were sent to protect will no longer exist. With no Armenians left in Nagorno-Karabakh they will merely be seen by the Azeri public as an occupying force. Then Aliyev will cry to the West that the Russians are occupying its internationally recognized territory. Russia might eventually leave with some sort of an economic/financial deal with Azerbaijan and just like that, the dictator in Azerbaijan will have what he always wanted. All of Karabakh.\nBut he (Aliyev) won't stop there. Once the Karabakh issue is finally \"resolved\", he will then aim at achieving the other thing he's been pressing for the last 2 years...a corridor connecting mainland Azerbaijan with Nakhichevan via southern Armenia. He will launch an attack into southern Armenia and will most likely take it given Azerbaijan's current military superiority over Armenia.\nThe Russians won't do anything because they're economically, politically and militarily depleted. Also, Russia wants nothing more than mainland Azerbaijan to finally connect with Nakhichevan; thus connecting it to Turkey. With achieving this, Russia will sell its gas masked as \"Azeri gas\" to Europe via Turkey.\nThe EU won't do anything other than a couple of \"concerning\" statements. After all, the EU traded buying gas from one autocratic country (Russia) for another (Azerbaijan).\nThe US is the only player that has little-to-no economic or political relationship with Azerbaijan (compared to the EU and Russia). They have the power to stop this but this can change depending on the next administration. The Biden administration (and his State Department) has been the most proactive in recent history regarding this issue. The US (under Biden) has been willing to call out Azerbaijan for numerous violations and even helped stop the September 2022 Azeri invasion into Armenia proper. Nancy Pelosi even visited Armenia back in September and met with the PM and other high-ranking officials in the country. However this can drastically change if a different administration takes over in 2 years; especially a Trump administration, who not only has business ties with both (as exposed in his tax returns) Turkey and Azerbaijan, but also holds an isolationist \"America first\" policy.\nSadly the world will once again stay silent as Armenians get slaughtered and Armenia seizes to exist.",
">\n\nThanks for this mate",
">\n\nThat seems like a bad thing to admit.",
">\n\nHe was very open about his goal being ethnic cleansing before restarting the conflict two years ago. It didn't matter then internationally and is also an important part of his domestic branding.",
">\n\nIn an ideal world , FOR Azerbaijanis and their Turkish masters , the Armenian Genocide would’ve made Armenians extinct . That’s the level of evil here",
">\n\nIt shouldn't be news to anyone that azerbaijan's government seek genocide."
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How was Armenian the good guy taking territory and killing Azerbaijan in the 1990s? This is exactly like Ukraine taking back Crimea | [
"Will there ever be a resolution to determine the fate of Nagorno-Karabakh / Artsakh? I can't imagine that the Armenian and Azerbaijani people want to be in this situation forever.",
">\n\nIt is clear and evident what the current Azerbaijani regime intends to achieve by this (now going on for over one month) blockade of the single road connecting the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh with Armenia proper and the outside world.\nIt will once and for all rid all Armenians from Artsakh. That is the goal. Expect in a few weeks a decision by the Azeri dictator to open the road for Armenians in Artsakh to leave to Armenia proper.\nThe people of Artsakh have a well-deserved reputation among Armenians for resiliency, but even the bravest and most resilient have limits. With no incoming food, medicine, electricity and now internet, the people will have no choice but to leave. As a result, Azerbaijan will finally get what it always wanted; an ethnically cleansed Nagorno-Karabakh thanks to a bunch of \"environmental protesters\" and a world that didn't lift a finger to do anything about it.\nThereafter, the Russian \"peace keeping\" mission will have no peace to keep since the Armenians they were sent to protect will no longer exist. With no Armenians left in Nagorno-Karabakh they will merely be seen by the Azeri public as an occupying force. Then Aliyev will cry to the West that the Russians are occupying its internationally recognized territory. Russia might eventually leave with some sort of an economic/financial deal with Azerbaijan and just like that, the dictator in Azerbaijan will have what he always wanted. All of Karabakh.\nBut he (Aliyev) won't stop there. Once the Karabakh issue is finally \"resolved\", he will then aim at achieving the other thing he's been pressing for the last 2 years...a corridor connecting mainland Azerbaijan with Nakhichevan via southern Armenia. He will launch an attack into southern Armenia and will most likely take it given Azerbaijan's current military superiority over Armenia.\nThe Russians won't do anything because they're economically, politically and militarily depleted. Also, Russia wants nothing more than mainland Azerbaijan to finally connect with Nakhichevan; thus connecting it to Turkey. With achieving this, Russia will sell its gas masked as \"Azeri gas\" to Europe via Turkey.\nThe EU won't do anything other than a couple of \"concerning\" statements. After all, the EU traded buying gas from one autocratic country (Russia) for another (Azerbaijan).\nThe US is the only player that has little-to-no economic or political relationship with Azerbaijan (compared to the EU and Russia). They have the power to stop this but this can change depending on the next administration. The Biden administration (and his State Department) has been the most proactive in recent history regarding this issue. The US (under Biden) has been willing to call out Azerbaijan for numerous violations and even helped stop the September 2022 Azeri invasion into Armenia proper. Nancy Pelosi even visited Armenia back in September and met with the PM and other high-ranking officials in the country. However this can drastically change if a different administration takes over in 2 years; especially a Trump administration, who not only has business ties with both (as exposed in his tax returns) Turkey and Azerbaijan, but also holds an isolationist \"America first\" policy.\nSadly the world will once again stay silent as Armenians get slaughtered and Armenia seizes to exist.",
">\n\nThanks for this mate",
">\n\nThat seems like a bad thing to admit.",
">\n\nHe was very open about his goal being ethnic cleansing before restarting the conflict two years ago. It didn't matter then internationally and is also an important part of his domestic branding.",
">\n\nIn an ideal world , FOR Azerbaijanis and their Turkish masters , the Armenian Genocide would’ve made Armenians extinct . That’s the level of evil here",
">\n\nIt shouldn't be news to anyone that azerbaijan's government seek genocide.",
">\n\nAzerbaijan is a terrorist state"
] |
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The difference comes down to where people traditionally live. Azerbaijan eating into an objectively tiny Armenia and Artsakh is a problem. Especially Armenia. They are not entitled to an ethnically cleansed corridor through Armenia proper.
Evil Soviets gave land populated mostly by ethnic Armenians to the Azeri statelet rather than their Armenian one. Maybe it was divide-and-control, maybe it was just a lack of care. Maybe it even made sense in certain areas where the line was drawn. Quite frankly Armenia and Azerbaijan were more mixed at the time, with minorities of the other nationality located deep within each until the late 1980s/1990s. It didn't matter much until the Soviet Union started to fall apart, but once it did it became clear the area was mostly Armenian, and they had been able to exert their will up to the Line of Contact all the way to 2020.
In 2020, the Azeris were much more powerful militarily and have been able to exert their will over Armenians now. They actually occupy a small section of internationally recognized Armenia also. The Armenians are trapped between Turkey Sr. and Turkey Jr. If it weren't for Georgia and...interestingly enough Iran, they'd otherwise be in the harshest neighbourhood humanly imaginable.
Armenia is tiny and the risk of genocide is real. It's much more of a concern than a majority ethnic Armenian area not falling under Azerbaijani control in the early 1990s. Few international players truly gave a shit because they knew the Soviet borders were poorly drawn. Ethnic cleansing then took place on both sides. What we're seeing now is incredibly one-sided and a potential second Armenian genocide in the making. | [
"Will there ever be a resolution to determine the fate of Nagorno-Karabakh / Artsakh? I can't imagine that the Armenian and Azerbaijani people want to be in this situation forever.",
">\n\nIt is clear and evident what the current Azerbaijani regime intends to achieve by this (now going on for over one month) blockade of the single road connecting the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh with Armenia proper and the outside world.\nIt will once and for all rid all Armenians from Artsakh. That is the goal. Expect in a few weeks a decision by the Azeri dictator to open the road for Armenians in Artsakh to leave to Armenia proper.\nThe people of Artsakh have a well-deserved reputation among Armenians for resiliency, but even the bravest and most resilient have limits. With no incoming food, medicine, electricity and now internet, the people will have no choice but to leave. As a result, Azerbaijan will finally get what it always wanted; an ethnically cleansed Nagorno-Karabakh thanks to a bunch of \"environmental protesters\" and a world that didn't lift a finger to do anything about it.\nThereafter, the Russian \"peace keeping\" mission will have no peace to keep since the Armenians they were sent to protect will no longer exist. With no Armenians left in Nagorno-Karabakh they will merely be seen by the Azeri public as an occupying force. Then Aliyev will cry to the West that the Russians are occupying its internationally recognized territory. Russia might eventually leave with some sort of an economic/financial deal with Azerbaijan and just like that, the dictator in Azerbaijan will have what he always wanted. All of Karabakh.\nBut he (Aliyev) won't stop there. Once the Karabakh issue is finally \"resolved\", he will then aim at achieving the other thing he's been pressing for the last 2 years...a corridor connecting mainland Azerbaijan with Nakhichevan via southern Armenia. He will launch an attack into southern Armenia and will most likely take it given Azerbaijan's current military superiority over Armenia.\nThe Russians won't do anything because they're economically, politically and militarily depleted. Also, Russia wants nothing more than mainland Azerbaijan to finally connect with Nakhichevan; thus connecting it to Turkey. With achieving this, Russia will sell its gas masked as \"Azeri gas\" to Europe via Turkey.\nThe EU won't do anything other than a couple of \"concerning\" statements. After all, the EU traded buying gas from one autocratic country (Russia) for another (Azerbaijan).\nThe US is the only player that has little-to-no economic or political relationship with Azerbaijan (compared to the EU and Russia). They have the power to stop this but this can change depending on the next administration. The Biden administration (and his State Department) has been the most proactive in recent history regarding this issue. The US (under Biden) has been willing to call out Azerbaijan for numerous violations and even helped stop the September 2022 Azeri invasion into Armenia proper. Nancy Pelosi even visited Armenia back in September and met with the PM and other high-ranking officials in the country. However this can drastically change if a different administration takes over in 2 years; especially a Trump administration, who not only has business ties with both (as exposed in his tax returns) Turkey and Azerbaijan, but also holds an isolationist \"America first\" policy.\nSadly the world will once again stay silent as Armenians get slaughtered and Armenia seizes to exist.",
">\n\nThanks for this mate",
">\n\nThat seems like a bad thing to admit.",
">\n\nHe was very open about his goal being ethnic cleansing before restarting the conflict two years ago. It didn't matter then internationally and is also an important part of his domestic branding.",
">\n\nIn an ideal world , FOR Azerbaijanis and their Turkish masters , the Armenian Genocide would’ve made Armenians extinct . That’s the level of evil here",
">\n\nIt shouldn't be news to anyone that azerbaijan's government seek genocide.",
">\n\nAzerbaijan is a terrorist state",
">\n\nHow was Armenian the good guy taking territory and killing Azerbaijan in the 1990s? This is exactly like Ukraine taking back Crimea"
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Genocide looming near Europe but it's not geopolitically interesting for people to be passionate about. | [
"Will there ever be a resolution to determine the fate of Nagorno-Karabakh / Artsakh? I can't imagine that the Armenian and Azerbaijani people want to be in this situation forever.",
">\n\nIt is clear and evident what the current Azerbaijani regime intends to achieve by this (now going on for over one month) blockade of the single road connecting the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh with Armenia proper and the outside world.\nIt will once and for all rid all Armenians from Artsakh. That is the goal. Expect in a few weeks a decision by the Azeri dictator to open the road for Armenians in Artsakh to leave to Armenia proper.\nThe people of Artsakh have a well-deserved reputation among Armenians for resiliency, but even the bravest and most resilient have limits. With no incoming food, medicine, electricity and now internet, the people will have no choice but to leave. As a result, Azerbaijan will finally get what it always wanted; an ethnically cleansed Nagorno-Karabakh thanks to a bunch of \"environmental protesters\" and a world that didn't lift a finger to do anything about it.\nThereafter, the Russian \"peace keeping\" mission will have no peace to keep since the Armenians they were sent to protect will no longer exist. With no Armenians left in Nagorno-Karabakh they will merely be seen by the Azeri public as an occupying force. Then Aliyev will cry to the West that the Russians are occupying its internationally recognized territory. Russia might eventually leave with some sort of an economic/financial deal with Azerbaijan and just like that, the dictator in Azerbaijan will have what he always wanted. All of Karabakh.\nBut he (Aliyev) won't stop there. Once the Karabakh issue is finally \"resolved\", he will then aim at achieving the other thing he's been pressing for the last 2 years...a corridor connecting mainland Azerbaijan with Nakhichevan via southern Armenia. He will launch an attack into southern Armenia and will most likely take it given Azerbaijan's current military superiority over Armenia.\nThe Russians won't do anything because they're economically, politically and militarily depleted. Also, Russia wants nothing more than mainland Azerbaijan to finally connect with Nakhichevan; thus connecting it to Turkey. With achieving this, Russia will sell its gas masked as \"Azeri gas\" to Europe via Turkey.\nThe EU won't do anything other than a couple of \"concerning\" statements. After all, the EU traded buying gas from one autocratic country (Russia) for another (Azerbaijan).\nThe US is the only player that has little-to-no economic or political relationship with Azerbaijan (compared to the EU and Russia). They have the power to stop this but this can change depending on the next administration. The Biden administration (and his State Department) has been the most proactive in recent history regarding this issue. The US (under Biden) has been willing to call out Azerbaijan for numerous violations and even helped stop the September 2022 Azeri invasion into Armenia proper. Nancy Pelosi even visited Armenia back in September and met with the PM and other high-ranking officials in the country. However this can drastically change if a different administration takes over in 2 years; especially a Trump administration, who not only has business ties with both (as exposed in his tax returns) Turkey and Azerbaijan, but also holds an isolationist \"America first\" policy.\nSadly the world will once again stay silent as Armenians get slaughtered and Armenia seizes to exist.",
">\n\nThanks for this mate",
">\n\nThat seems like a bad thing to admit.",
">\n\nHe was very open about his goal being ethnic cleansing before restarting the conflict two years ago. It didn't matter then internationally and is also an important part of his domestic branding.",
">\n\nIn an ideal world , FOR Azerbaijanis and their Turkish masters , the Armenian Genocide would’ve made Armenians extinct . That’s the level of evil here",
">\n\nIt shouldn't be news to anyone that azerbaijan's government seek genocide.",
">\n\nAzerbaijan is a terrorist state",
">\n\nHow was Armenian the good guy taking territory and killing Azerbaijan in the 1990s? This is exactly like Ukraine taking back Crimea",
">\n\nThe difference comes down to where people traditionally live. Azerbaijan eating into an objectively tiny Armenia and Artsakh is a problem. Especially Armenia. They are not entitled to an ethnically cleansed corridor through Armenia proper. \nEvil Soviets gave land populated mostly by ethnic Armenians to the Azeri statelet rather than their Armenian one. Maybe it was divide-and-control, maybe it was just a lack of care. Maybe it even made sense in certain areas where the line was drawn. Quite frankly Armenia and Azerbaijan were more mixed at the time, with minorities of the other nationality located deep within each until the late 1980s/1990s. It didn't matter much until the Soviet Union started to fall apart, but once it did it became clear the area was mostly Armenian, and they had been able to exert their will up to the Line of Contact all the way to 2020. \nIn 2020, the Azeris were much more powerful militarily and have been able to exert their will over Armenians now. They actually occupy a small section of internationally recognized Armenia also. The Armenians are trapped between Turkey Sr. and Turkey Jr. If it weren't for Georgia and...interestingly enough Iran, they'd otherwise be in the harshest neighbourhood humanly imaginable. \nArmenia is tiny and the risk of genocide is real. It's much more of a concern than a majority ethnic Armenian area not falling under Azerbaijani control in the early 1990s. Few international players truly gave a shit because they knew the Soviet borders were poorly drawn. Ethnic cleansing then took place on both sides. What we're seeing now is incredibly one-sided and a potential second Armenian genocide in the making."
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Holding Azerbaijan accountable would piss Turkey off, so no politician in any NATO country will actually care about this, and Russia is currently a bit indisposed to actually do anything. So the world is going to stand idly by as Armenians are genocided again. | [
"Will there ever be a resolution to determine the fate of Nagorno-Karabakh / Artsakh? I can't imagine that the Armenian and Azerbaijani people want to be in this situation forever.",
">\n\nIt is clear and evident what the current Azerbaijani regime intends to achieve by this (now going on for over one month) blockade of the single road connecting the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh with Armenia proper and the outside world.\nIt will once and for all rid all Armenians from Artsakh. That is the goal. Expect in a few weeks a decision by the Azeri dictator to open the road for Armenians in Artsakh to leave to Armenia proper.\nThe people of Artsakh have a well-deserved reputation among Armenians for resiliency, but even the bravest and most resilient have limits. With no incoming food, medicine, electricity and now internet, the people will have no choice but to leave. As a result, Azerbaijan will finally get what it always wanted; an ethnically cleansed Nagorno-Karabakh thanks to a bunch of \"environmental protesters\" and a world that didn't lift a finger to do anything about it.\nThereafter, the Russian \"peace keeping\" mission will have no peace to keep since the Armenians they were sent to protect will no longer exist. With no Armenians left in Nagorno-Karabakh they will merely be seen by the Azeri public as an occupying force. Then Aliyev will cry to the West that the Russians are occupying its internationally recognized territory. Russia might eventually leave with some sort of an economic/financial deal with Azerbaijan and just like that, the dictator in Azerbaijan will have what he always wanted. All of Karabakh.\nBut he (Aliyev) won't stop there. Once the Karabakh issue is finally \"resolved\", he will then aim at achieving the other thing he's been pressing for the last 2 years...a corridor connecting mainland Azerbaijan with Nakhichevan via southern Armenia. He will launch an attack into southern Armenia and will most likely take it given Azerbaijan's current military superiority over Armenia.\nThe Russians won't do anything because they're economically, politically and militarily depleted. Also, Russia wants nothing more than mainland Azerbaijan to finally connect with Nakhichevan; thus connecting it to Turkey. With achieving this, Russia will sell its gas masked as \"Azeri gas\" to Europe via Turkey.\nThe EU won't do anything other than a couple of \"concerning\" statements. After all, the EU traded buying gas from one autocratic country (Russia) for another (Azerbaijan).\nThe US is the only player that has little-to-no economic or political relationship with Azerbaijan (compared to the EU and Russia). They have the power to stop this but this can change depending on the next administration. The Biden administration (and his State Department) has been the most proactive in recent history regarding this issue. The US (under Biden) has been willing to call out Azerbaijan for numerous violations and even helped stop the September 2022 Azeri invasion into Armenia proper. Nancy Pelosi even visited Armenia back in September and met with the PM and other high-ranking officials in the country. However this can drastically change if a different administration takes over in 2 years; especially a Trump administration, who not only has business ties with both (as exposed in his tax returns) Turkey and Azerbaijan, but also holds an isolationist \"America first\" policy.\nSadly the world will once again stay silent as Armenians get slaughtered and Armenia seizes to exist.",
">\n\nThanks for this mate",
">\n\nThat seems like a bad thing to admit.",
">\n\nHe was very open about his goal being ethnic cleansing before restarting the conflict two years ago. It didn't matter then internationally and is also an important part of his domestic branding.",
">\n\nIn an ideal world , FOR Azerbaijanis and their Turkish masters , the Armenian Genocide would’ve made Armenians extinct . That’s the level of evil here",
">\n\nIt shouldn't be news to anyone that azerbaijan's government seek genocide.",
">\n\nAzerbaijan is a terrorist state",
">\n\nHow was Armenian the good guy taking territory and killing Azerbaijan in the 1990s? This is exactly like Ukraine taking back Crimea",
">\n\nThe difference comes down to where people traditionally live. Azerbaijan eating into an objectively tiny Armenia and Artsakh is a problem. Especially Armenia. They are not entitled to an ethnically cleansed corridor through Armenia proper. \nEvil Soviets gave land populated mostly by ethnic Armenians to the Azeri statelet rather than their Armenian one. Maybe it was divide-and-control, maybe it was just a lack of care. Maybe it even made sense in certain areas where the line was drawn. Quite frankly Armenia and Azerbaijan were more mixed at the time, with minorities of the other nationality located deep within each until the late 1980s/1990s. It didn't matter much until the Soviet Union started to fall apart, but once it did it became clear the area was mostly Armenian, and they had been able to exert their will up to the Line of Contact all the way to 2020. \nIn 2020, the Azeris were much more powerful militarily and have been able to exert their will over Armenians now. They actually occupy a small section of internationally recognized Armenia also. The Armenians are trapped between Turkey Sr. and Turkey Jr. If it weren't for Georgia and...interestingly enough Iran, they'd otherwise be in the harshest neighbourhood humanly imaginable. \nArmenia is tiny and the risk of genocide is real. It's much more of a concern than a majority ethnic Armenian area not falling under Azerbaijani control in the early 1990s. Few international players truly gave a shit because they knew the Soviet borders were poorly drawn. Ethnic cleansing then took place on both sides. What we're seeing now is incredibly one-sided and a potential second Armenian genocide in the making.",
">\n\nGenocide looming near Europe but it's not geopolitically interesting for people to be passionate about."
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"Will there ever be a resolution to determine the fate of Nagorno-Karabakh / Artsakh? I can't imagine that the Armenian and Azerbaijani people want to be in this situation forever.",
">\n\nIt is clear and evident what the current Azerbaijani regime intends to achieve by this (now going on for over one month) blockade of the single road connecting the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh with Armenia proper and the outside world.\nIt will once and for all rid all Armenians from Artsakh. That is the goal. Expect in a few weeks a decision by the Azeri dictator to open the road for Armenians in Artsakh to leave to Armenia proper.\nThe people of Artsakh have a well-deserved reputation among Armenians for resiliency, but even the bravest and most resilient have limits. With no incoming food, medicine, electricity and now internet, the people will have no choice but to leave. As a result, Azerbaijan will finally get what it always wanted; an ethnically cleansed Nagorno-Karabakh thanks to a bunch of \"environmental protesters\" and a world that didn't lift a finger to do anything about it.\nThereafter, the Russian \"peace keeping\" mission will have no peace to keep since the Armenians they were sent to protect will no longer exist. With no Armenians left in Nagorno-Karabakh they will merely be seen by the Azeri public as an occupying force. Then Aliyev will cry to the West that the Russians are occupying its internationally recognized territory. Russia might eventually leave with some sort of an economic/financial deal with Azerbaijan and just like that, the dictator in Azerbaijan will have what he always wanted. All of Karabakh.\nBut he (Aliyev) won't stop there. Once the Karabakh issue is finally \"resolved\", he will then aim at achieving the other thing he's been pressing for the last 2 years...a corridor connecting mainland Azerbaijan with Nakhichevan via southern Armenia. He will launch an attack into southern Armenia and will most likely take it given Azerbaijan's current military superiority over Armenia.\nThe Russians won't do anything because they're economically, politically and militarily depleted. Also, Russia wants nothing more than mainland Azerbaijan to finally connect with Nakhichevan; thus connecting it to Turkey. With achieving this, Russia will sell its gas masked as \"Azeri gas\" to Europe via Turkey.\nThe EU won't do anything other than a couple of \"concerning\" statements. After all, the EU traded buying gas from one autocratic country (Russia) for another (Azerbaijan).\nThe US is the only player that has little-to-no economic or political relationship with Azerbaijan (compared to the EU and Russia). They have the power to stop this but this can change depending on the next administration. The Biden administration (and his State Department) has been the most proactive in recent history regarding this issue. The US (under Biden) has been willing to call out Azerbaijan for numerous violations and even helped stop the September 2022 Azeri invasion into Armenia proper. Nancy Pelosi even visited Armenia back in September and met with the PM and other high-ranking officials in the country. However this can drastically change if a different administration takes over in 2 years; especially a Trump administration, who not only has business ties with both (as exposed in his tax returns) Turkey and Azerbaijan, but also holds an isolationist \"America first\" policy.\nSadly the world will once again stay silent as Armenians get slaughtered and Armenia seizes to exist.",
">\n\nThanks for this mate",
">\n\nThat seems like a bad thing to admit.",
">\n\nHe was very open about his goal being ethnic cleansing before restarting the conflict two years ago. It didn't matter then internationally and is also an important part of his domestic branding.",
">\n\nIn an ideal world , FOR Azerbaijanis and their Turkish masters , the Armenian Genocide would’ve made Armenians extinct . That’s the level of evil here",
">\n\nIt shouldn't be news to anyone that azerbaijan's government seek genocide.",
">\n\nAzerbaijan is a terrorist state",
">\n\nHow was Armenian the good guy taking territory and killing Azerbaijan in the 1990s? This is exactly like Ukraine taking back Crimea",
">\n\nThe difference comes down to where people traditionally live. Azerbaijan eating into an objectively tiny Armenia and Artsakh is a problem. Especially Armenia. They are not entitled to an ethnically cleansed corridor through Armenia proper. \nEvil Soviets gave land populated mostly by ethnic Armenians to the Azeri statelet rather than their Armenian one. Maybe it was divide-and-control, maybe it was just a lack of care. Maybe it even made sense in certain areas where the line was drawn. Quite frankly Armenia and Azerbaijan were more mixed at the time, with minorities of the other nationality located deep within each until the late 1980s/1990s. It didn't matter much until the Soviet Union started to fall apart, but once it did it became clear the area was mostly Armenian, and they had been able to exert their will up to the Line of Contact all the way to 2020. \nIn 2020, the Azeris were much more powerful militarily and have been able to exert their will over Armenians now. They actually occupy a small section of internationally recognized Armenia also. The Armenians are trapped between Turkey Sr. and Turkey Jr. If it weren't for Georgia and...interestingly enough Iran, they'd otherwise be in the harshest neighbourhood humanly imaginable. \nArmenia is tiny and the risk of genocide is real. It's much more of a concern than a majority ethnic Armenian area not falling under Azerbaijani control in the early 1990s. Few international players truly gave a shit because they knew the Soviet borders were poorly drawn. Ethnic cleansing then took place on both sides. What we're seeing now is incredibly one-sided and a potential second Armenian genocide in the making.",
">\n\nGenocide looming near Europe but it's not geopolitically interesting for people to be passionate about.",
">\n\nHolding Azerbaijan accountable would piss Turkey off, so no politician in any NATO country will actually care about this, and Russia is currently a bit indisposed to actually do anything. So the world is going to stand idly by as Armenians are genocided again."
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