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It's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat "intuitively", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so"
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Its pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.
If most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them."
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Facts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content."
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I just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape"
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I just "intuitively" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious"
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Were they double stuffed? | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy"
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you know it | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?"
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They are the best kind after all. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it"
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I’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them… | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all."
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I don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…"
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Well they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”
I see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore."
] |
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I mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.
Eating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong."
] |
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I do intuitive eating.
It works amazingly well.
The only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible.
But once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat.
Do I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty.
Do I want cake? I make the cake.
Sense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break."
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are you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat."
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Oh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet.
But the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty.
So I would say it is synergistic. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods"
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Intuitive eating will always be geared towards people with restrict/binge habits. Many will restrict in order to be healthier and lose weight, then binge on whatever they feel like because they've thrown their body out of flux and give in to what they feel they are missing.
I do best with intuitive eating, and I am healthiest on it. You have a particularly fatty and hearty meal, or something very sugary--your body actually craves balance and you'll want some roasted broccoli, or a salad. If you are constantly in restriction mode, you'll constantly be looking for the binge, and valuing it higher than any random salad, no matter how much you enjoy salad.
It's about getting your body back to baseline and it absolutely works. I'm less likely to splurge on fried chicken take out if I have a nice, complete dinner, and then when I feel the cravings coming on, I indulge in some chips, or fruit, or chocolate. You give your body what it asks for without restricting it to beyond desperation. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods",
">\n\nOh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet. \nBut the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty. \nSo I would say it is synergistic."
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It doesn't "absolutely" work. It works for some people. I'd bet a very limited amount of people with only a limited goalset.
Intuitive eating will never be good for muscle building, for example, as you intuitively have no idea how much protein you've actually eaten. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods",
">\n\nOh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet. \nBut the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty. \nSo I would say it is synergistic.",
">\n\nIntuitive eating will always be geared towards people with restrict/binge habits. Many will restrict in order to be healthier and lose weight, then binge on whatever they feel like because they've thrown their body out of flux and give in to what they feel they are missing.\nI do best with intuitive eating, and I am healthiest on it. You have a particularly fatty and hearty meal, or something very sugary--your body actually craves balance and you'll want some roasted broccoli, or a salad. If you are constantly in restriction mode, you'll constantly be looking for the binge, and valuing it higher than any random salad, no matter how much you enjoy salad. \nIt's about getting your body back to baseline and it absolutely works. I'm less likely to splurge on fried chicken take out if I have a nice, complete dinner, and then when I feel the cravings coming on, I indulge in some chips, or fruit, or chocolate. You give your body what it asks for without restricting it to beyond desperation."
] |
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Your baker around the corner has figured out a long time ago what to put on that cake in order to get you to keep buying it.
Big corporations literally *engineer* their food to make you crave more food and buy more food.
Sugar. Fat.
That's it. Humans love sugar and fat. No engineering required. Just add butter. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods",
">\n\nOh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet. \nBut the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty. \nSo I would say it is synergistic.",
">\n\nIntuitive eating will always be geared towards people with restrict/binge habits. Many will restrict in order to be healthier and lose weight, then binge on whatever they feel like because they've thrown their body out of flux and give in to what they feel they are missing.\nI do best with intuitive eating, and I am healthiest on it. You have a particularly fatty and hearty meal, or something very sugary--your body actually craves balance and you'll want some roasted broccoli, or a salad. If you are constantly in restriction mode, you'll constantly be looking for the binge, and valuing it higher than any random salad, no matter how much you enjoy salad. \nIt's about getting your body back to baseline and it absolutely works. I'm less likely to splurge on fried chicken take out if I have a nice, complete dinner, and then when I feel the cravings coming on, I indulge in some chips, or fruit, or chocolate. You give your body what it asks for without restricting it to beyond desperation.",
">\n\nIt doesn't \"absolutely\" work. It works for some people. I'd bet a very limited amount of people with only a limited goalset.\nIntuitive eating will never be good for muscle building, for example, as you intuitively have no idea how much protein you've actually eaten."
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This isn’t what intuitive eating is | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods",
">\n\nOh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet. \nBut the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty. \nSo I would say it is synergistic.",
">\n\nIntuitive eating will always be geared towards people with restrict/binge habits. Many will restrict in order to be healthier and lose weight, then binge on whatever they feel like because they've thrown their body out of flux and give in to what they feel they are missing.\nI do best with intuitive eating, and I am healthiest on it. You have a particularly fatty and hearty meal, or something very sugary--your body actually craves balance and you'll want some roasted broccoli, or a salad. If you are constantly in restriction mode, you'll constantly be looking for the binge, and valuing it higher than any random salad, no matter how much you enjoy salad. \nIt's about getting your body back to baseline and it absolutely works. I'm less likely to splurge on fried chicken take out if I have a nice, complete dinner, and then when I feel the cravings coming on, I indulge in some chips, or fruit, or chocolate. You give your body what it asks for without restricting it to beyond desperation.",
">\n\nIt doesn't \"absolutely\" work. It works for some people. I'd bet a very limited amount of people with only a limited goalset.\nIntuitive eating will never be good for muscle building, for example, as you intuitively have no idea how much protein you've actually eaten.",
">\n\n\nYour baker around the corner has figured out a long time ago what to put on that cake in order to get you to keep buying it.\nBig corporations literally *engineer* their food to make you crave more food and buy more food. \n\nSugar. Fat.\nThat's it. Humans love sugar and fat. No engineering required. Just add butter."
] |
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For me intuitive eating means listening my body, not my cravings. When you eat healthy you feel good. If I drink a smoothie my body feels really different afterwards than after eating a bag of chips. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods",
">\n\nOh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet. \nBut the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty. \nSo I would say it is synergistic.",
">\n\nIntuitive eating will always be geared towards people with restrict/binge habits. Many will restrict in order to be healthier and lose weight, then binge on whatever they feel like because they've thrown their body out of flux and give in to what they feel they are missing.\nI do best with intuitive eating, and I am healthiest on it. You have a particularly fatty and hearty meal, or something very sugary--your body actually craves balance and you'll want some roasted broccoli, or a salad. If you are constantly in restriction mode, you'll constantly be looking for the binge, and valuing it higher than any random salad, no matter how much you enjoy salad. \nIt's about getting your body back to baseline and it absolutely works. I'm less likely to splurge on fried chicken take out if I have a nice, complete dinner, and then when I feel the cravings coming on, I indulge in some chips, or fruit, or chocolate. You give your body what it asks for without restricting it to beyond desperation.",
">\n\nIt doesn't \"absolutely\" work. It works for some people. I'd bet a very limited amount of people with only a limited goalset.\nIntuitive eating will never be good for muscle building, for example, as you intuitively have no idea how much protein you've actually eaten.",
">\n\n\nYour baker around the corner has figured out a long time ago what to put on that cake in order to get you to keep buying it.\nBig corporations literally *engineer* their food to make you crave more food and buy more food. \n\nSugar. Fat.\nThat's it. Humans love sugar and fat. No engineering required. Just add butter.",
">\n\nThis isn’t what intuitive eating is"
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You will require some motivation, or some disciplin in order to build healthy habits.
That's what intuitive eating is. Shaking foods you enjoy cold turkey makes you statistically doomed to fail and binge. Research suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months; and, according to one meta-analysis of intervention studies, dieters regain, on average, more than half of what they lose within two years.
Intuitive eating is consciously making better choices and managing portions while allowing yourself to eat foods that you enjoy without guilt. It is incredibly sustainable long-term and is easy to make a subconscious habit. A similar way of eating is called the 80/20 rule.
Eat nutritious foods 80 percent of the time and have a serving of your favorite treat with the other 20 percent. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods",
">\n\nOh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet. \nBut the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty. \nSo I would say it is synergistic.",
">\n\nIntuitive eating will always be geared towards people with restrict/binge habits. Many will restrict in order to be healthier and lose weight, then binge on whatever they feel like because they've thrown their body out of flux and give in to what they feel they are missing.\nI do best with intuitive eating, and I am healthiest on it. You have a particularly fatty and hearty meal, or something very sugary--your body actually craves balance and you'll want some roasted broccoli, or a salad. If you are constantly in restriction mode, you'll constantly be looking for the binge, and valuing it higher than any random salad, no matter how much you enjoy salad. \nIt's about getting your body back to baseline and it absolutely works. I'm less likely to splurge on fried chicken take out if I have a nice, complete dinner, and then when I feel the cravings coming on, I indulge in some chips, or fruit, or chocolate. You give your body what it asks for without restricting it to beyond desperation.",
">\n\nIt doesn't \"absolutely\" work. It works for some people. I'd bet a very limited amount of people with only a limited goalset.\nIntuitive eating will never be good for muscle building, for example, as you intuitively have no idea how much protein you've actually eaten.",
">\n\n\nYour baker around the corner has figured out a long time ago what to put on that cake in order to get you to keep buying it.\nBig corporations literally *engineer* their food to make you crave more food and buy more food. \n\nSugar. Fat.\nThat's it. Humans love sugar and fat. No engineering required. Just add butter.",
">\n\nThis isn’t what intuitive eating is",
">\n\nFor me intuitive eating means listening my body, not my cravings. When you eat healthy you feel good. If I drink a smoothie my body feels really different afterwards than after eating a bag of chips."
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Research suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months;
I am certain that this tells us more about the diets people choose than how possible weight loss is.
A realistic goal for most people to lose and maintain is about 5% of bodyweight every 3 months. To achieve this most people should be starting small, discovering small changes they are confident they could make, and focus on maintaining these changes.
For a 300 pound person this might translate into cutting 500 calories by replacing one meal or snack with a healthier option, and walking 10 minutes every day. After 3 months, and hopefully 15 pounds lost, the need to make some more small changes. Over the 2 to 4 years they're working on losing weight, they will experience a complete lifestyle overhaul.
If you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured. People have to completely transform their diet overnight, and start exercising at an unsustainable level, to hit their unrealistic goal of losing all the weight in a short period of time. Even if they have the discipline to accomplish their goals, the second they don't have to live this lifestyle they abandon it, and go back to living the lifestyle they enjoy. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods",
">\n\nOh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet. \nBut the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty. \nSo I would say it is synergistic.",
">\n\nIntuitive eating will always be geared towards people with restrict/binge habits. Many will restrict in order to be healthier and lose weight, then binge on whatever they feel like because they've thrown their body out of flux and give in to what they feel they are missing.\nI do best with intuitive eating, and I am healthiest on it. You have a particularly fatty and hearty meal, or something very sugary--your body actually craves balance and you'll want some roasted broccoli, or a salad. If you are constantly in restriction mode, you'll constantly be looking for the binge, and valuing it higher than any random salad, no matter how much you enjoy salad. \nIt's about getting your body back to baseline and it absolutely works. I'm less likely to splurge on fried chicken take out if I have a nice, complete dinner, and then when I feel the cravings coming on, I indulge in some chips, or fruit, or chocolate. You give your body what it asks for without restricting it to beyond desperation.",
">\n\nIt doesn't \"absolutely\" work. It works for some people. I'd bet a very limited amount of people with only a limited goalset.\nIntuitive eating will never be good for muscle building, for example, as you intuitively have no idea how much protein you've actually eaten.",
">\n\n\nYour baker around the corner has figured out a long time ago what to put on that cake in order to get you to keep buying it.\nBig corporations literally *engineer* their food to make you crave more food and buy more food. \n\nSugar. Fat.\nThat's it. Humans love sugar and fat. No engineering required. Just add butter.",
">\n\nThis isn’t what intuitive eating is",
">\n\nFor me intuitive eating means listening my body, not my cravings. When you eat healthy you feel good. If I drink a smoothie my body feels really different afterwards than after eating a bag of chips.",
">\n\n\nYou will require some motivation, or some disciplin in order to build healthy habits.\n\nThat's what intuitive eating is. Shaking foods you enjoy cold turkey makes you statistically doomed to fail and binge. Research suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months; and, according to one meta-analysis of intervention studies, dieters regain, on average, more than half of what they lose within two years. \nIntuitive eating is consciously making better choices and managing portions while allowing yourself to eat foods that you enjoy without guilt. It is incredibly sustainable long-term and is easy to make a subconscious habit. A similar way of eating is called the 80/20 rule. \n\nEat nutritious foods 80 percent of the time and have a serving of your favorite treat with the other 20 percent."
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Agree.
If you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured.
I'm assuming that OP is advocating for those opposite approaches based on their understanding of intuitive eating. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods",
">\n\nOh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet. \nBut the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty. \nSo I would say it is synergistic.",
">\n\nIntuitive eating will always be geared towards people with restrict/binge habits. Many will restrict in order to be healthier and lose weight, then binge on whatever they feel like because they've thrown their body out of flux and give in to what they feel they are missing.\nI do best with intuitive eating, and I am healthiest on it. You have a particularly fatty and hearty meal, or something very sugary--your body actually craves balance and you'll want some roasted broccoli, or a salad. If you are constantly in restriction mode, you'll constantly be looking for the binge, and valuing it higher than any random salad, no matter how much you enjoy salad. \nIt's about getting your body back to baseline and it absolutely works. I'm less likely to splurge on fried chicken take out if I have a nice, complete dinner, and then when I feel the cravings coming on, I indulge in some chips, or fruit, or chocolate. You give your body what it asks for without restricting it to beyond desperation.",
">\n\nIt doesn't \"absolutely\" work. It works for some people. I'd bet a very limited amount of people with only a limited goalset.\nIntuitive eating will never be good for muscle building, for example, as you intuitively have no idea how much protein you've actually eaten.",
">\n\n\nYour baker around the corner has figured out a long time ago what to put on that cake in order to get you to keep buying it.\nBig corporations literally *engineer* their food to make you crave more food and buy more food. \n\nSugar. Fat.\nThat's it. Humans love sugar and fat. No engineering required. Just add butter.",
">\n\nThis isn’t what intuitive eating is",
">\n\nFor me intuitive eating means listening my body, not my cravings. When you eat healthy you feel good. If I drink a smoothie my body feels really different afterwards than after eating a bag of chips.",
">\n\n\nYou will require some motivation, or some disciplin in order to build healthy habits.\n\nThat's what intuitive eating is. Shaking foods you enjoy cold turkey makes you statistically doomed to fail and binge. Research suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months; and, according to one meta-analysis of intervention studies, dieters regain, on average, more than half of what they lose within two years. \nIntuitive eating is consciously making better choices and managing portions while allowing yourself to eat foods that you enjoy without guilt. It is incredibly sustainable long-term and is easy to make a subconscious habit. A similar way of eating is called the 80/20 rule. \n\nEat nutritious foods 80 percent of the time and have a serving of your favorite treat with the other 20 percent.",
">\n\n\nResearch suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months;\n\nI am certain that this tells us more about the diets people choose than how possible weight loss is. \nA realistic goal for most people to lose and maintain is about 5% of bodyweight every 3 months. To achieve this most people should be starting small, discovering small changes they are confident they could make, and focus on maintaining these changes.\nFor a 300 pound person this might translate into cutting 500 calories by replacing one meal or snack with a healthier option, and walking 10 minutes every day. After 3 months, and hopefully 15 pounds lost, the need to make some more small changes. Over the 2 to 4 years they're working on losing weight, they will experience a complete lifestyle overhaul.\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured. People have to completely transform their diet overnight, and start exercising at an unsustainable level, to hit their unrealistic goal of losing all the weight in a short period of time. Even if they have the discipline to accomplish their goals, the second they don't have to live this lifestyle they abandon it, and go back to living the lifestyle they enjoy."
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You assume incorrectly. I would strongly advice against any diet or lifestyle that is unsustainable in the sense that people would not be able to do them indefinitely. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods",
">\n\nOh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet. \nBut the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty. \nSo I would say it is synergistic.",
">\n\nIntuitive eating will always be geared towards people with restrict/binge habits. Many will restrict in order to be healthier and lose weight, then binge on whatever they feel like because they've thrown their body out of flux and give in to what they feel they are missing.\nI do best with intuitive eating, and I am healthiest on it. You have a particularly fatty and hearty meal, or something very sugary--your body actually craves balance and you'll want some roasted broccoli, or a salad. If you are constantly in restriction mode, you'll constantly be looking for the binge, and valuing it higher than any random salad, no matter how much you enjoy salad. \nIt's about getting your body back to baseline and it absolutely works. I'm less likely to splurge on fried chicken take out if I have a nice, complete dinner, and then when I feel the cravings coming on, I indulge in some chips, or fruit, or chocolate. You give your body what it asks for without restricting it to beyond desperation.",
">\n\nIt doesn't \"absolutely\" work. It works for some people. I'd bet a very limited amount of people with only a limited goalset.\nIntuitive eating will never be good for muscle building, for example, as you intuitively have no idea how much protein you've actually eaten.",
">\n\n\nYour baker around the corner has figured out a long time ago what to put on that cake in order to get you to keep buying it.\nBig corporations literally *engineer* their food to make you crave more food and buy more food. \n\nSugar. Fat.\nThat's it. Humans love sugar and fat. No engineering required. Just add butter.",
">\n\nThis isn’t what intuitive eating is",
">\n\nFor me intuitive eating means listening my body, not my cravings. When you eat healthy you feel good. If I drink a smoothie my body feels really different afterwards than after eating a bag of chips.",
">\n\n\nYou will require some motivation, or some disciplin in order to build healthy habits.\n\nThat's what intuitive eating is. Shaking foods you enjoy cold turkey makes you statistically doomed to fail and binge. Research suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months; and, according to one meta-analysis of intervention studies, dieters regain, on average, more than half of what they lose within two years. \nIntuitive eating is consciously making better choices and managing portions while allowing yourself to eat foods that you enjoy without guilt. It is incredibly sustainable long-term and is easy to make a subconscious habit. A similar way of eating is called the 80/20 rule. \n\nEat nutritious foods 80 percent of the time and have a serving of your favorite treat with the other 20 percent.",
">\n\n\nResearch suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months;\n\nI am certain that this tells us more about the diets people choose than how possible weight loss is. \nA realistic goal for most people to lose and maintain is about 5% of bodyweight every 3 months. To achieve this most people should be starting small, discovering small changes they are confident they could make, and focus on maintaining these changes.\nFor a 300 pound person this might translate into cutting 500 calories by replacing one meal or snack with a healthier option, and walking 10 minutes every day. After 3 months, and hopefully 15 pounds lost, the need to make some more small changes. Over the 2 to 4 years they're working on losing weight, they will experience a complete lifestyle overhaul.\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured. People have to completely transform their diet overnight, and start exercising at an unsustainable level, to hit their unrealistic goal of losing all the weight in a short period of time. Even if they have the discipline to accomplish their goals, the second they don't have to live this lifestyle they abandon it, and go back to living the lifestyle they enjoy.",
">\n\nAgree.\n\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured.\n\nI'm assuming that OP is advocating for those opposite approaches based on their understanding of intuitive eating."
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Are you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods",
">\n\nOh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet. \nBut the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty. \nSo I would say it is synergistic.",
">\n\nIntuitive eating will always be geared towards people with restrict/binge habits. Many will restrict in order to be healthier and lose weight, then binge on whatever they feel like because they've thrown their body out of flux and give in to what they feel they are missing.\nI do best with intuitive eating, and I am healthiest on it. You have a particularly fatty and hearty meal, or something very sugary--your body actually craves balance and you'll want some roasted broccoli, or a salad. If you are constantly in restriction mode, you'll constantly be looking for the binge, and valuing it higher than any random salad, no matter how much you enjoy salad. \nIt's about getting your body back to baseline and it absolutely works. I'm less likely to splurge on fried chicken take out if I have a nice, complete dinner, and then when I feel the cravings coming on, I indulge in some chips, or fruit, or chocolate. You give your body what it asks for without restricting it to beyond desperation.",
">\n\nIt doesn't \"absolutely\" work. It works for some people. I'd bet a very limited amount of people with only a limited goalset.\nIntuitive eating will never be good for muscle building, for example, as you intuitively have no idea how much protein you've actually eaten.",
">\n\n\nYour baker around the corner has figured out a long time ago what to put on that cake in order to get you to keep buying it.\nBig corporations literally *engineer* their food to make you crave more food and buy more food. \n\nSugar. Fat.\nThat's it. Humans love sugar and fat. No engineering required. Just add butter.",
">\n\nThis isn’t what intuitive eating is",
">\n\nFor me intuitive eating means listening my body, not my cravings. When you eat healthy you feel good. If I drink a smoothie my body feels really different afterwards than after eating a bag of chips.",
">\n\n\nYou will require some motivation, or some disciplin in order to build healthy habits.\n\nThat's what intuitive eating is. Shaking foods you enjoy cold turkey makes you statistically doomed to fail and binge. Research suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months; and, according to one meta-analysis of intervention studies, dieters regain, on average, more than half of what they lose within two years. \nIntuitive eating is consciously making better choices and managing portions while allowing yourself to eat foods that you enjoy without guilt. It is incredibly sustainable long-term and is easy to make a subconscious habit. A similar way of eating is called the 80/20 rule. \n\nEat nutritious foods 80 percent of the time and have a serving of your favorite treat with the other 20 percent.",
">\n\n\nResearch suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months;\n\nI am certain that this tells us more about the diets people choose than how possible weight loss is. \nA realistic goal for most people to lose and maintain is about 5% of bodyweight every 3 months. To achieve this most people should be starting small, discovering small changes they are confident they could make, and focus on maintaining these changes.\nFor a 300 pound person this might translate into cutting 500 calories by replacing one meal or snack with a healthier option, and walking 10 minutes every day. After 3 months, and hopefully 15 pounds lost, the need to make some more small changes. Over the 2 to 4 years they're working on losing weight, they will experience a complete lifestyle overhaul.\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured. People have to completely transform their diet overnight, and start exercising at an unsustainable level, to hit their unrealistic goal of losing all the weight in a short period of time. Even if they have the discipline to accomplish their goals, the second they don't have to live this lifestyle they abandon it, and go back to living the lifestyle they enjoy.",
">\n\nAgree.\n\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured.\n\nI'm assuming that OP is advocating for those opposite approaches based on their understanding of intuitive eating.",
">\n\nYou assume incorrectly. I would strongly advice against any diet or lifestyle that is unsustainable in the sense that people would not be able to do them indefinitely."
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Are you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great.
My god, can you do us all a favor and take that tiny gadget in your hand that provides you with all the knowledge in the entire world and bloody inform yourself?
Of course diets do not "work". You are not an athlete that has to get in shape for a specific date/contest. Unless you have a very specific use case like a marriage date that you want to look nice on, "diets" do not make sense.
What does work is making incremental changes to your lifestyle that are sustainable and that you can integrate into your life longterm. Starting small, but steadily building on your achievements.
What constitutes success is really simple. Success is achieving and maintaining a medically healthy bodyweight and a level of fitness that gives you longterm health benefits and quality of life. You should do it for the exact same reasons that you presumably also brush your teeth.
And by the way, not everyone that eats and thinks differently than you about food has an "eating disorder". That term has been washed out to oblivion. Binge eating is an ED. Something like bulimia is an ED. Giving a lot of thought about what you eat and having some impulse control about eating is not an "ED". Labeling other people as sick because of jealousy/negative self image is bloody disgusting. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods",
">\n\nOh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet. \nBut the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty. \nSo I would say it is synergistic.",
">\n\nIntuitive eating will always be geared towards people with restrict/binge habits. Many will restrict in order to be healthier and lose weight, then binge on whatever they feel like because they've thrown their body out of flux and give in to what they feel they are missing.\nI do best with intuitive eating, and I am healthiest on it. You have a particularly fatty and hearty meal, or something very sugary--your body actually craves balance and you'll want some roasted broccoli, or a salad. If you are constantly in restriction mode, you'll constantly be looking for the binge, and valuing it higher than any random salad, no matter how much you enjoy salad. \nIt's about getting your body back to baseline and it absolutely works. I'm less likely to splurge on fried chicken take out if I have a nice, complete dinner, and then when I feel the cravings coming on, I indulge in some chips, or fruit, or chocolate. You give your body what it asks for without restricting it to beyond desperation.",
">\n\nIt doesn't \"absolutely\" work. It works for some people. I'd bet a very limited amount of people with only a limited goalset.\nIntuitive eating will never be good for muscle building, for example, as you intuitively have no idea how much protein you've actually eaten.",
">\n\n\nYour baker around the corner has figured out a long time ago what to put on that cake in order to get you to keep buying it.\nBig corporations literally *engineer* their food to make you crave more food and buy more food. \n\nSugar. Fat.\nThat's it. Humans love sugar and fat. No engineering required. Just add butter.",
">\n\nThis isn’t what intuitive eating is",
">\n\nFor me intuitive eating means listening my body, not my cravings. When you eat healthy you feel good. If I drink a smoothie my body feels really different afterwards than after eating a bag of chips.",
">\n\n\nYou will require some motivation, or some disciplin in order to build healthy habits.\n\nThat's what intuitive eating is. Shaking foods you enjoy cold turkey makes you statistically doomed to fail and binge. Research suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months; and, according to one meta-analysis of intervention studies, dieters regain, on average, more than half of what they lose within two years. \nIntuitive eating is consciously making better choices and managing portions while allowing yourself to eat foods that you enjoy without guilt. It is incredibly sustainable long-term and is easy to make a subconscious habit. A similar way of eating is called the 80/20 rule. \n\nEat nutritious foods 80 percent of the time and have a serving of your favorite treat with the other 20 percent.",
">\n\n\nResearch suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months;\n\nI am certain that this tells us more about the diets people choose than how possible weight loss is. \nA realistic goal for most people to lose and maintain is about 5% of bodyweight every 3 months. To achieve this most people should be starting small, discovering small changes they are confident they could make, and focus on maintaining these changes.\nFor a 300 pound person this might translate into cutting 500 calories by replacing one meal or snack with a healthier option, and walking 10 minutes every day. After 3 months, and hopefully 15 pounds lost, the need to make some more small changes. Over the 2 to 4 years they're working on losing weight, they will experience a complete lifestyle overhaul.\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured. People have to completely transform their diet overnight, and start exercising at an unsustainable level, to hit their unrealistic goal of losing all the weight in a short period of time. Even if they have the discipline to accomplish their goals, the second they don't have to live this lifestyle they abandon it, and go back to living the lifestyle they enjoy.",
">\n\nAgree.\n\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured.\n\nI'm assuming that OP is advocating for those opposite approaches based on their understanding of intuitive eating.",
">\n\nYou assume incorrectly. I would strongly advice against any diet or lifestyle that is unsustainable in the sense that people would not be able to do them indefinitely.",
">\n\nAre you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great."
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My god, can you do us all a favor and take that tiny gadget in your hand that provides you with all the knowledge in the entire world and bloody inform yourself?
Good lord, you are upset about this. Perhaps having a cookie will make you feel better. While you eat your cookie, you can use your little device and look up what intuitive eating entails. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods",
">\n\nOh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet. \nBut the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty. \nSo I would say it is synergistic.",
">\n\nIntuitive eating will always be geared towards people with restrict/binge habits. Many will restrict in order to be healthier and lose weight, then binge on whatever they feel like because they've thrown their body out of flux and give in to what they feel they are missing.\nI do best with intuitive eating, and I am healthiest on it. You have a particularly fatty and hearty meal, or something very sugary--your body actually craves balance and you'll want some roasted broccoli, or a salad. If you are constantly in restriction mode, you'll constantly be looking for the binge, and valuing it higher than any random salad, no matter how much you enjoy salad. \nIt's about getting your body back to baseline and it absolutely works. I'm less likely to splurge on fried chicken take out if I have a nice, complete dinner, and then when I feel the cravings coming on, I indulge in some chips, or fruit, or chocolate. You give your body what it asks for without restricting it to beyond desperation.",
">\n\nIt doesn't \"absolutely\" work. It works for some people. I'd bet a very limited amount of people with only a limited goalset.\nIntuitive eating will never be good for muscle building, for example, as you intuitively have no idea how much protein you've actually eaten.",
">\n\n\nYour baker around the corner has figured out a long time ago what to put on that cake in order to get you to keep buying it.\nBig corporations literally *engineer* their food to make you crave more food and buy more food. \n\nSugar. Fat.\nThat's it. Humans love sugar and fat. No engineering required. Just add butter.",
">\n\nThis isn’t what intuitive eating is",
">\n\nFor me intuitive eating means listening my body, not my cravings. When you eat healthy you feel good. If I drink a smoothie my body feels really different afterwards than after eating a bag of chips.",
">\n\n\nYou will require some motivation, or some disciplin in order to build healthy habits.\n\nThat's what intuitive eating is. Shaking foods you enjoy cold turkey makes you statistically doomed to fail and binge. Research suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months; and, according to one meta-analysis of intervention studies, dieters regain, on average, more than half of what they lose within two years. \nIntuitive eating is consciously making better choices and managing portions while allowing yourself to eat foods that you enjoy without guilt. It is incredibly sustainable long-term and is easy to make a subconscious habit. A similar way of eating is called the 80/20 rule. \n\nEat nutritious foods 80 percent of the time and have a serving of your favorite treat with the other 20 percent.",
">\n\n\nResearch suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months;\n\nI am certain that this tells us more about the diets people choose than how possible weight loss is. \nA realistic goal for most people to lose and maintain is about 5% of bodyweight every 3 months. To achieve this most people should be starting small, discovering small changes they are confident they could make, and focus on maintaining these changes.\nFor a 300 pound person this might translate into cutting 500 calories by replacing one meal or snack with a healthier option, and walking 10 minutes every day. After 3 months, and hopefully 15 pounds lost, the need to make some more small changes. Over the 2 to 4 years they're working on losing weight, they will experience a complete lifestyle overhaul.\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured. People have to completely transform their diet overnight, and start exercising at an unsustainable level, to hit their unrealistic goal of losing all the weight in a short period of time. Even if they have the discipline to accomplish their goals, the second they don't have to live this lifestyle they abandon it, and go back to living the lifestyle they enjoy.",
">\n\nAgree.\n\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured.\n\nI'm assuming that OP is advocating for those opposite approaches based on their understanding of intuitive eating.",
">\n\nYou assume incorrectly. I would strongly advice against any diet or lifestyle that is unsustainable in the sense that people would not be able to do them indefinitely.",
">\n\nAre you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great.",
">\n\n\nAre you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great.\n\nMy god, can you do us all a favor and take that tiny gadget in your hand that provides you with all the knowledge in the entire world and bloody inform yourself? \nOf course diets do not \"work\". You are not an athlete that has to get in shape for a specific date/contest. Unless you have a very specific use case like a marriage date that you want to look nice on, \"diets\" do not make sense.\nWhat does work is making incremental changes to your lifestyle that are sustainable and that you can integrate into your life longterm. Starting small, but steadily building on your achievements.\nWhat constitutes success is really simple. Success is achieving and maintaining a medically healthy bodyweight and a level of fitness that gives you longterm health benefits and quality of life. You should do it for the exact same reasons that you presumably also brush your teeth. \nAnd by the way, not everyone that eats and thinks differently than you about food has an \"eating disorder\". That term has been washed out to oblivion. Binge eating is an ED. Something like bulimia is an ED. Giving a lot of thought about what you eat and having some impulse control about eating is not an \"ED\". Labeling other people as sick because of jealousy/negative self image is bloody disgusting."
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uummhh, that's not about this, it's just that caloric food will always be more tasty, this because in nature we should have preferred caloric food over veggies cos we would have survived more... nowadays, caloric food is easy to find instead | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods",
">\n\nOh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet. \nBut the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty. \nSo I would say it is synergistic.",
">\n\nIntuitive eating will always be geared towards people with restrict/binge habits. Many will restrict in order to be healthier and lose weight, then binge on whatever they feel like because they've thrown their body out of flux and give in to what they feel they are missing.\nI do best with intuitive eating, and I am healthiest on it. You have a particularly fatty and hearty meal, or something very sugary--your body actually craves balance and you'll want some roasted broccoli, or a salad. If you are constantly in restriction mode, you'll constantly be looking for the binge, and valuing it higher than any random salad, no matter how much you enjoy salad. \nIt's about getting your body back to baseline and it absolutely works. I'm less likely to splurge on fried chicken take out if I have a nice, complete dinner, and then when I feel the cravings coming on, I indulge in some chips, or fruit, or chocolate. You give your body what it asks for without restricting it to beyond desperation.",
">\n\nIt doesn't \"absolutely\" work. It works for some people. I'd bet a very limited amount of people with only a limited goalset.\nIntuitive eating will never be good for muscle building, for example, as you intuitively have no idea how much protein you've actually eaten.",
">\n\n\nYour baker around the corner has figured out a long time ago what to put on that cake in order to get you to keep buying it.\nBig corporations literally *engineer* their food to make you crave more food and buy more food. \n\nSugar. Fat.\nThat's it. Humans love sugar and fat. No engineering required. Just add butter.",
">\n\nThis isn’t what intuitive eating is",
">\n\nFor me intuitive eating means listening my body, not my cravings. When you eat healthy you feel good. If I drink a smoothie my body feels really different afterwards than after eating a bag of chips.",
">\n\n\nYou will require some motivation, or some disciplin in order to build healthy habits.\n\nThat's what intuitive eating is. Shaking foods you enjoy cold turkey makes you statistically doomed to fail and binge. Research suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months; and, according to one meta-analysis of intervention studies, dieters regain, on average, more than half of what they lose within two years. \nIntuitive eating is consciously making better choices and managing portions while allowing yourself to eat foods that you enjoy without guilt. It is incredibly sustainable long-term and is easy to make a subconscious habit. A similar way of eating is called the 80/20 rule. \n\nEat nutritious foods 80 percent of the time and have a serving of your favorite treat with the other 20 percent.",
">\n\n\nResearch suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months;\n\nI am certain that this tells us more about the diets people choose than how possible weight loss is. \nA realistic goal for most people to lose and maintain is about 5% of bodyweight every 3 months. To achieve this most people should be starting small, discovering small changes they are confident they could make, and focus on maintaining these changes.\nFor a 300 pound person this might translate into cutting 500 calories by replacing one meal or snack with a healthier option, and walking 10 minutes every day. After 3 months, and hopefully 15 pounds lost, the need to make some more small changes. Over the 2 to 4 years they're working on losing weight, they will experience a complete lifestyle overhaul.\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured. People have to completely transform their diet overnight, and start exercising at an unsustainable level, to hit their unrealistic goal of losing all the weight in a short period of time. Even if they have the discipline to accomplish their goals, the second they don't have to live this lifestyle they abandon it, and go back to living the lifestyle they enjoy.",
">\n\nAgree.\n\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured.\n\nI'm assuming that OP is advocating for those opposite approaches based on their understanding of intuitive eating.",
">\n\nYou assume incorrectly. I would strongly advice against any diet or lifestyle that is unsustainable in the sense that people would not be able to do them indefinitely.",
">\n\nAre you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great.",
">\n\n\nAre you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great.\n\nMy god, can you do us all a favor and take that tiny gadget in your hand that provides you with all the knowledge in the entire world and bloody inform yourself? \nOf course diets do not \"work\". You are not an athlete that has to get in shape for a specific date/contest. Unless you have a very specific use case like a marriage date that you want to look nice on, \"diets\" do not make sense.\nWhat does work is making incremental changes to your lifestyle that are sustainable and that you can integrate into your life longterm. Starting small, but steadily building on your achievements.\nWhat constitutes success is really simple. Success is achieving and maintaining a medically healthy bodyweight and a level of fitness that gives you longterm health benefits and quality of life. You should do it for the exact same reasons that you presumably also brush your teeth. \nAnd by the way, not everyone that eats and thinks differently than you about food has an \"eating disorder\". That term has been washed out to oblivion. Binge eating is an ED. Something like bulimia is an ED. Giving a lot of thought about what you eat and having some impulse control about eating is not an \"ED\". Labeling other people as sick because of jealousy/negative self image is bloody disgusting.",
">\n\n\nMy god, can you do us all a favor and take that tiny gadget in your hand that provides you with all the knowledge in the entire world and bloody inform yourself?\n\nGood lord, you are upset about this. Perhaps having a cookie will make you feel better. While you eat your cookie, you can use your little device and look up what intuitive eating entails."
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I intuitively ate half a bag of Hot Cheetos and now my stomach is in knots. The term is so silly | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods",
">\n\nOh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet. \nBut the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty. \nSo I would say it is synergistic.",
">\n\nIntuitive eating will always be geared towards people with restrict/binge habits. Many will restrict in order to be healthier and lose weight, then binge on whatever they feel like because they've thrown their body out of flux and give in to what they feel they are missing.\nI do best with intuitive eating, and I am healthiest on it. You have a particularly fatty and hearty meal, or something very sugary--your body actually craves balance and you'll want some roasted broccoli, or a salad. If you are constantly in restriction mode, you'll constantly be looking for the binge, and valuing it higher than any random salad, no matter how much you enjoy salad. \nIt's about getting your body back to baseline and it absolutely works. I'm less likely to splurge on fried chicken take out if I have a nice, complete dinner, and then when I feel the cravings coming on, I indulge in some chips, or fruit, or chocolate. You give your body what it asks for without restricting it to beyond desperation.",
">\n\nIt doesn't \"absolutely\" work. It works for some people. I'd bet a very limited amount of people with only a limited goalset.\nIntuitive eating will never be good for muscle building, for example, as you intuitively have no idea how much protein you've actually eaten.",
">\n\n\nYour baker around the corner has figured out a long time ago what to put on that cake in order to get you to keep buying it.\nBig corporations literally *engineer* their food to make you crave more food and buy more food. \n\nSugar. Fat.\nThat's it. Humans love sugar and fat. No engineering required. Just add butter.",
">\n\nThis isn’t what intuitive eating is",
">\n\nFor me intuitive eating means listening my body, not my cravings. When you eat healthy you feel good. If I drink a smoothie my body feels really different afterwards than after eating a bag of chips.",
">\n\n\nYou will require some motivation, or some disciplin in order to build healthy habits.\n\nThat's what intuitive eating is. Shaking foods you enjoy cold turkey makes you statistically doomed to fail and binge. Research suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months; and, according to one meta-analysis of intervention studies, dieters regain, on average, more than half of what they lose within two years. \nIntuitive eating is consciously making better choices and managing portions while allowing yourself to eat foods that you enjoy without guilt. It is incredibly sustainable long-term and is easy to make a subconscious habit. A similar way of eating is called the 80/20 rule. \n\nEat nutritious foods 80 percent of the time and have a serving of your favorite treat with the other 20 percent.",
">\n\n\nResearch suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months;\n\nI am certain that this tells us more about the diets people choose than how possible weight loss is. \nA realistic goal for most people to lose and maintain is about 5% of bodyweight every 3 months. To achieve this most people should be starting small, discovering small changes they are confident they could make, and focus on maintaining these changes.\nFor a 300 pound person this might translate into cutting 500 calories by replacing one meal or snack with a healthier option, and walking 10 minutes every day. After 3 months, and hopefully 15 pounds lost, the need to make some more small changes. Over the 2 to 4 years they're working on losing weight, they will experience a complete lifestyle overhaul.\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured. People have to completely transform their diet overnight, and start exercising at an unsustainable level, to hit their unrealistic goal of losing all the weight in a short period of time. Even if they have the discipline to accomplish their goals, the second they don't have to live this lifestyle they abandon it, and go back to living the lifestyle they enjoy.",
">\n\nAgree.\n\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured.\n\nI'm assuming that OP is advocating for those opposite approaches based on their understanding of intuitive eating.",
">\n\nYou assume incorrectly. I would strongly advice against any diet or lifestyle that is unsustainable in the sense that people would not be able to do them indefinitely.",
">\n\nAre you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great.",
">\n\n\nAre you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great.\n\nMy god, can you do us all a favor and take that tiny gadget in your hand that provides you with all the knowledge in the entire world and bloody inform yourself? \nOf course diets do not \"work\". You are not an athlete that has to get in shape for a specific date/contest. Unless you have a very specific use case like a marriage date that you want to look nice on, \"diets\" do not make sense.\nWhat does work is making incremental changes to your lifestyle that are sustainable and that you can integrate into your life longterm. Starting small, but steadily building on your achievements.\nWhat constitutes success is really simple. Success is achieving and maintaining a medically healthy bodyweight and a level of fitness that gives you longterm health benefits and quality of life. You should do it for the exact same reasons that you presumably also brush your teeth. \nAnd by the way, not everyone that eats and thinks differently than you about food has an \"eating disorder\". That term has been washed out to oblivion. Binge eating is an ED. Something like bulimia is an ED. Giving a lot of thought about what you eat and having some impulse control about eating is not an \"ED\". Labeling other people as sick because of jealousy/negative self image is bloody disgusting.",
">\n\n\nMy god, can you do us all a favor and take that tiny gadget in your hand that provides you with all the knowledge in the entire world and bloody inform yourself?\n\nGood lord, you are upset about this. Perhaps having a cookie will make you feel better. While you eat your cookie, you can use your little device and look up what intuitive eating entails.",
">\n\nuummhh, that's not about this, it's just that caloric food will always be more tasty, this because in nature we should have preferred caloric food over veggies cos we would have survived more... nowadays, caloric food is easy to find instead"
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Intuitive eating is fun | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods",
">\n\nOh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet. \nBut the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty. \nSo I would say it is synergistic.",
">\n\nIntuitive eating will always be geared towards people with restrict/binge habits. Many will restrict in order to be healthier and lose weight, then binge on whatever they feel like because they've thrown their body out of flux and give in to what they feel they are missing.\nI do best with intuitive eating, and I am healthiest on it. You have a particularly fatty and hearty meal, or something very sugary--your body actually craves balance and you'll want some roasted broccoli, or a salad. If you are constantly in restriction mode, you'll constantly be looking for the binge, and valuing it higher than any random salad, no matter how much you enjoy salad. \nIt's about getting your body back to baseline and it absolutely works. I'm less likely to splurge on fried chicken take out if I have a nice, complete dinner, and then when I feel the cravings coming on, I indulge in some chips, or fruit, or chocolate. You give your body what it asks for without restricting it to beyond desperation.",
">\n\nIt doesn't \"absolutely\" work. It works for some people. I'd bet a very limited amount of people with only a limited goalset.\nIntuitive eating will never be good for muscle building, for example, as you intuitively have no idea how much protein you've actually eaten.",
">\n\n\nYour baker around the corner has figured out a long time ago what to put on that cake in order to get you to keep buying it.\nBig corporations literally *engineer* their food to make you crave more food and buy more food. \n\nSugar. Fat.\nThat's it. Humans love sugar and fat. No engineering required. Just add butter.",
">\n\nThis isn’t what intuitive eating is",
">\n\nFor me intuitive eating means listening my body, not my cravings. When you eat healthy you feel good. If I drink a smoothie my body feels really different afterwards than after eating a bag of chips.",
">\n\n\nYou will require some motivation, or some disciplin in order to build healthy habits.\n\nThat's what intuitive eating is. Shaking foods you enjoy cold turkey makes you statistically doomed to fail and binge. Research suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months; and, according to one meta-analysis of intervention studies, dieters regain, on average, more than half of what they lose within two years. \nIntuitive eating is consciously making better choices and managing portions while allowing yourself to eat foods that you enjoy without guilt. It is incredibly sustainable long-term and is easy to make a subconscious habit. A similar way of eating is called the 80/20 rule. \n\nEat nutritious foods 80 percent of the time and have a serving of your favorite treat with the other 20 percent.",
">\n\n\nResearch suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months;\n\nI am certain that this tells us more about the diets people choose than how possible weight loss is. \nA realistic goal for most people to lose and maintain is about 5% of bodyweight every 3 months. To achieve this most people should be starting small, discovering small changes they are confident they could make, and focus on maintaining these changes.\nFor a 300 pound person this might translate into cutting 500 calories by replacing one meal or snack with a healthier option, and walking 10 minutes every day. After 3 months, and hopefully 15 pounds lost, the need to make some more small changes. Over the 2 to 4 years they're working on losing weight, they will experience a complete lifestyle overhaul.\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured. People have to completely transform their diet overnight, and start exercising at an unsustainable level, to hit their unrealistic goal of losing all the weight in a short period of time. Even if they have the discipline to accomplish their goals, the second they don't have to live this lifestyle they abandon it, and go back to living the lifestyle they enjoy.",
">\n\nAgree.\n\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured.\n\nI'm assuming that OP is advocating for those opposite approaches based on their understanding of intuitive eating.",
">\n\nYou assume incorrectly. I would strongly advice against any diet or lifestyle that is unsustainable in the sense that people would not be able to do them indefinitely.",
">\n\nAre you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great.",
">\n\n\nAre you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great.\n\nMy god, can you do us all a favor and take that tiny gadget in your hand that provides you with all the knowledge in the entire world and bloody inform yourself? \nOf course diets do not \"work\". You are not an athlete that has to get in shape for a specific date/contest. Unless you have a very specific use case like a marriage date that you want to look nice on, \"diets\" do not make sense.\nWhat does work is making incremental changes to your lifestyle that are sustainable and that you can integrate into your life longterm. Starting small, but steadily building on your achievements.\nWhat constitutes success is really simple. Success is achieving and maintaining a medically healthy bodyweight and a level of fitness that gives you longterm health benefits and quality of life. You should do it for the exact same reasons that you presumably also brush your teeth. \nAnd by the way, not everyone that eats and thinks differently than you about food has an \"eating disorder\". That term has been washed out to oblivion. Binge eating is an ED. Something like bulimia is an ED. Giving a lot of thought about what you eat and having some impulse control about eating is not an \"ED\". Labeling other people as sick because of jealousy/negative self image is bloody disgusting.",
">\n\n\nMy god, can you do us all a favor and take that tiny gadget in your hand that provides you with all the knowledge in the entire world and bloody inform yourself?\n\nGood lord, you are upset about this. Perhaps having a cookie will make you feel better. While you eat your cookie, you can use your little device and look up what intuitive eating entails.",
">\n\nuummhh, that's not about this, it's just that caloric food will always be more tasty, this because in nature we should have preferred caloric food over veggies cos we would have survived more... nowadays, caloric food is easy to find instead",
">\n\nI intuitively ate half a bag of Hot Cheetos and now my stomach is in knots. The term is so silly"
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"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods",
">\n\nOh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet. \nBut the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty. \nSo I would say it is synergistic.",
">\n\nIntuitive eating will always be geared towards people with restrict/binge habits. Many will restrict in order to be healthier and lose weight, then binge on whatever they feel like because they've thrown their body out of flux and give in to what they feel they are missing.\nI do best with intuitive eating, and I am healthiest on it. You have a particularly fatty and hearty meal, or something very sugary--your body actually craves balance and you'll want some roasted broccoli, or a salad. If you are constantly in restriction mode, you'll constantly be looking for the binge, and valuing it higher than any random salad, no matter how much you enjoy salad. \nIt's about getting your body back to baseline and it absolutely works. I'm less likely to splurge on fried chicken take out if I have a nice, complete dinner, and then when I feel the cravings coming on, I indulge in some chips, or fruit, or chocolate. You give your body what it asks for without restricting it to beyond desperation.",
">\n\nIt doesn't \"absolutely\" work. It works for some people. I'd bet a very limited amount of people with only a limited goalset.\nIntuitive eating will never be good for muscle building, for example, as you intuitively have no idea how much protein you've actually eaten.",
">\n\n\nYour baker around the corner has figured out a long time ago what to put on that cake in order to get you to keep buying it.\nBig corporations literally *engineer* their food to make you crave more food and buy more food. \n\nSugar. Fat.\nThat's it. Humans love sugar and fat. No engineering required. Just add butter.",
">\n\nThis isn’t what intuitive eating is",
">\n\nFor me intuitive eating means listening my body, not my cravings. When you eat healthy you feel good. If I drink a smoothie my body feels really different afterwards than after eating a bag of chips.",
">\n\n\nYou will require some motivation, or some disciplin in order to build healthy habits.\n\nThat's what intuitive eating is. Shaking foods you enjoy cold turkey makes you statistically doomed to fail and binge. Research suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months; and, according to one meta-analysis of intervention studies, dieters regain, on average, more than half of what they lose within two years. \nIntuitive eating is consciously making better choices and managing portions while allowing yourself to eat foods that you enjoy without guilt. It is incredibly sustainable long-term and is easy to make a subconscious habit. A similar way of eating is called the 80/20 rule. \n\nEat nutritious foods 80 percent of the time and have a serving of your favorite treat with the other 20 percent.",
">\n\n\nResearch suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months;\n\nI am certain that this tells us more about the diets people choose than how possible weight loss is. \nA realistic goal for most people to lose and maintain is about 5% of bodyweight every 3 months. To achieve this most people should be starting small, discovering small changes they are confident they could make, and focus on maintaining these changes.\nFor a 300 pound person this might translate into cutting 500 calories by replacing one meal or snack with a healthier option, and walking 10 minutes every day. After 3 months, and hopefully 15 pounds lost, the need to make some more small changes. Over the 2 to 4 years they're working on losing weight, they will experience a complete lifestyle overhaul.\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured. People have to completely transform their diet overnight, and start exercising at an unsustainable level, to hit their unrealistic goal of losing all the weight in a short period of time. Even if they have the discipline to accomplish their goals, the second they don't have to live this lifestyle they abandon it, and go back to living the lifestyle they enjoy.",
">\n\nAgree.\n\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured.\n\nI'm assuming that OP is advocating for those opposite approaches based on their understanding of intuitive eating.",
">\n\nYou assume incorrectly. I would strongly advice against any diet or lifestyle that is unsustainable in the sense that people would not be able to do them indefinitely.",
">\n\nAre you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great.",
">\n\n\nAre you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great.\n\nMy god, can you do us all a favor and take that tiny gadget in your hand that provides you with all the knowledge in the entire world and bloody inform yourself? \nOf course diets do not \"work\". You are not an athlete that has to get in shape for a specific date/contest. Unless you have a very specific use case like a marriage date that you want to look nice on, \"diets\" do not make sense.\nWhat does work is making incremental changes to your lifestyle that are sustainable and that you can integrate into your life longterm. Starting small, but steadily building on your achievements.\nWhat constitutes success is really simple. Success is achieving and maintaining a medically healthy bodyweight and a level of fitness that gives you longterm health benefits and quality of life. You should do it for the exact same reasons that you presumably also brush your teeth. \nAnd by the way, not everyone that eats and thinks differently than you about food has an \"eating disorder\". That term has been washed out to oblivion. Binge eating is an ED. Something like bulimia is an ED. Giving a lot of thought about what you eat and having some impulse control about eating is not an \"ED\". Labeling other people as sick because of jealousy/negative self image is bloody disgusting.",
">\n\n\nMy god, can you do us all a favor and take that tiny gadget in your hand that provides you with all the knowledge in the entire world and bloody inform yourself?\n\nGood lord, you are upset about this. Perhaps having a cookie will make you feel better. While you eat your cookie, you can use your little device and look up what intuitive eating entails.",
">\n\nuummhh, that's not about this, it's just that caloric food will always be more tasty, this because in nature we should have preferred caloric food over veggies cos we would have survived more... nowadays, caloric food is easy to find instead",
">\n\nI intuitively ate half a bag of Hot Cheetos and now my stomach is in knots. The term is so silly",
">\n\nIntuitive eating is fun"
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I feel like you need to cook amd not eat take aways or TV dinner. Majority of our food is not pre made, you will find, if only you do certain things hands on instead of buying the grocery store equivalent.
For example- Make your own curd , make your own ginger garlic paste, grind your own coffee; make your own rice, dice your own veggies etc.
We are living in an age of ultra processed food. So try to avoid those. You will quickly discover you are automatically steering clear off of the "unhealthy" foods they talk about. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods",
">\n\nOh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet. \nBut the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty. \nSo I would say it is synergistic.",
">\n\nIntuitive eating will always be geared towards people with restrict/binge habits. Many will restrict in order to be healthier and lose weight, then binge on whatever they feel like because they've thrown their body out of flux and give in to what they feel they are missing.\nI do best with intuitive eating, and I am healthiest on it. You have a particularly fatty and hearty meal, or something very sugary--your body actually craves balance and you'll want some roasted broccoli, or a salad. If you are constantly in restriction mode, you'll constantly be looking for the binge, and valuing it higher than any random salad, no matter how much you enjoy salad. \nIt's about getting your body back to baseline and it absolutely works. I'm less likely to splurge on fried chicken take out if I have a nice, complete dinner, and then when I feel the cravings coming on, I indulge in some chips, or fruit, or chocolate. You give your body what it asks for without restricting it to beyond desperation.",
">\n\nIt doesn't \"absolutely\" work. It works for some people. I'd bet a very limited amount of people with only a limited goalset.\nIntuitive eating will never be good for muscle building, for example, as you intuitively have no idea how much protein you've actually eaten.",
">\n\n\nYour baker around the corner has figured out a long time ago what to put on that cake in order to get you to keep buying it.\nBig corporations literally *engineer* their food to make you crave more food and buy more food. \n\nSugar. Fat.\nThat's it. Humans love sugar and fat. No engineering required. Just add butter.",
">\n\nThis isn’t what intuitive eating is",
">\n\nFor me intuitive eating means listening my body, not my cravings. When you eat healthy you feel good. If I drink a smoothie my body feels really different afterwards than after eating a bag of chips.",
">\n\n\nYou will require some motivation, or some disciplin in order to build healthy habits.\n\nThat's what intuitive eating is. Shaking foods you enjoy cold turkey makes you statistically doomed to fail and binge. Research suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months; and, according to one meta-analysis of intervention studies, dieters regain, on average, more than half of what they lose within two years. \nIntuitive eating is consciously making better choices and managing portions while allowing yourself to eat foods that you enjoy without guilt. It is incredibly sustainable long-term and is easy to make a subconscious habit. A similar way of eating is called the 80/20 rule. \n\nEat nutritious foods 80 percent of the time and have a serving of your favorite treat with the other 20 percent.",
">\n\n\nResearch suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months;\n\nI am certain that this tells us more about the diets people choose than how possible weight loss is. \nA realistic goal for most people to lose and maintain is about 5% of bodyweight every 3 months. To achieve this most people should be starting small, discovering small changes they are confident they could make, and focus on maintaining these changes.\nFor a 300 pound person this might translate into cutting 500 calories by replacing one meal or snack with a healthier option, and walking 10 minutes every day. After 3 months, and hopefully 15 pounds lost, the need to make some more small changes. Over the 2 to 4 years they're working on losing weight, they will experience a complete lifestyle overhaul.\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured. People have to completely transform their diet overnight, and start exercising at an unsustainable level, to hit their unrealistic goal of losing all the weight in a short period of time. Even if they have the discipline to accomplish their goals, the second they don't have to live this lifestyle they abandon it, and go back to living the lifestyle they enjoy.",
">\n\nAgree.\n\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured.\n\nI'm assuming that OP is advocating for those opposite approaches based on their understanding of intuitive eating.",
">\n\nYou assume incorrectly. I would strongly advice against any diet or lifestyle that is unsustainable in the sense that people would not be able to do them indefinitely.",
">\n\nAre you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great.",
">\n\n\nAre you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great.\n\nMy god, can you do us all a favor and take that tiny gadget in your hand that provides you with all the knowledge in the entire world and bloody inform yourself? \nOf course diets do not \"work\". You are not an athlete that has to get in shape for a specific date/contest. Unless you have a very specific use case like a marriage date that you want to look nice on, \"diets\" do not make sense.\nWhat does work is making incremental changes to your lifestyle that are sustainable and that you can integrate into your life longterm. Starting small, but steadily building on your achievements.\nWhat constitutes success is really simple. Success is achieving and maintaining a medically healthy bodyweight and a level of fitness that gives you longterm health benefits and quality of life. You should do it for the exact same reasons that you presumably also brush your teeth. \nAnd by the way, not everyone that eats and thinks differently than you about food has an \"eating disorder\". That term has been washed out to oblivion. Binge eating is an ED. Something like bulimia is an ED. Giving a lot of thought about what you eat and having some impulse control about eating is not an \"ED\". Labeling other people as sick because of jealousy/negative self image is bloody disgusting.",
">\n\n\nMy god, can you do us all a favor and take that tiny gadget in your hand that provides you with all the knowledge in the entire world and bloody inform yourself?\n\nGood lord, you are upset about this. Perhaps having a cookie will make you feel better. While you eat your cookie, you can use your little device and look up what intuitive eating entails.",
">\n\nuummhh, that's not about this, it's just that caloric food will always be more tasty, this because in nature we should have preferred caloric food over veggies cos we would have survived more... nowadays, caloric food is easy to find instead",
">\n\nI intuitively ate half a bag of Hot Cheetos and now my stomach is in knots. The term is so silly",
">\n\nIntuitive eating is fun",
">\n\nOk?"
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It works if you prepare right, as in buy only good stuff and give yourself all good options, then choose within those options. It does not work if you go to a store hungry and be like "I'll just buy whatever I want to right now", and give in to any craving. | [
"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods",
">\n\nOh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet. \nBut the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty. \nSo I would say it is synergistic.",
">\n\nIntuitive eating will always be geared towards people with restrict/binge habits. Many will restrict in order to be healthier and lose weight, then binge on whatever they feel like because they've thrown their body out of flux and give in to what they feel they are missing.\nI do best with intuitive eating, and I am healthiest on it. You have a particularly fatty and hearty meal, or something very sugary--your body actually craves balance and you'll want some roasted broccoli, or a salad. If you are constantly in restriction mode, you'll constantly be looking for the binge, and valuing it higher than any random salad, no matter how much you enjoy salad. \nIt's about getting your body back to baseline and it absolutely works. I'm less likely to splurge on fried chicken take out if I have a nice, complete dinner, and then when I feel the cravings coming on, I indulge in some chips, or fruit, or chocolate. You give your body what it asks for without restricting it to beyond desperation.",
">\n\nIt doesn't \"absolutely\" work. It works for some people. I'd bet a very limited amount of people with only a limited goalset.\nIntuitive eating will never be good for muscle building, for example, as you intuitively have no idea how much protein you've actually eaten.",
">\n\n\nYour baker around the corner has figured out a long time ago what to put on that cake in order to get you to keep buying it.\nBig corporations literally *engineer* their food to make you crave more food and buy more food. \n\nSugar. Fat.\nThat's it. Humans love sugar and fat. No engineering required. Just add butter.",
">\n\nThis isn’t what intuitive eating is",
">\n\nFor me intuitive eating means listening my body, not my cravings. When you eat healthy you feel good. If I drink a smoothie my body feels really different afterwards than after eating a bag of chips.",
">\n\n\nYou will require some motivation, or some disciplin in order to build healthy habits.\n\nThat's what intuitive eating is. Shaking foods you enjoy cold turkey makes you statistically doomed to fail and binge. Research suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months; and, according to one meta-analysis of intervention studies, dieters regain, on average, more than half of what they lose within two years. \nIntuitive eating is consciously making better choices and managing portions while allowing yourself to eat foods that you enjoy without guilt. It is incredibly sustainable long-term and is easy to make a subconscious habit. A similar way of eating is called the 80/20 rule. \n\nEat nutritious foods 80 percent of the time and have a serving of your favorite treat with the other 20 percent.",
">\n\n\nResearch suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months;\n\nI am certain that this tells us more about the diets people choose than how possible weight loss is. \nA realistic goal for most people to lose and maintain is about 5% of bodyweight every 3 months. To achieve this most people should be starting small, discovering small changes they are confident they could make, and focus on maintaining these changes.\nFor a 300 pound person this might translate into cutting 500 calories by replacing one meal or snack with a healthier option, and walking 10 minutes every day. After 3 months, and hopefully 15 pounds lost, the need to make some more small changes. Over the 2 to 4 years they're working on losing weight, they will experience a complete lifestyle overhaul.\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured. People have to completely transform their diet overnight, and start exercising at an unsustainable level, to hit their unrealistic goal of losing all the weight in a short period of time. Even if they have the discipline to accomplish their goals, the second they don't have to live this lifestyle they abandon it, and go back to living the lifestyle they enjoy.",
">\n\nAgree.\n\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured.\n\nI'm assuming that OP is advocating for those opposite approaches based on their understanding of intuitive eating.",
">\n\nYou assume incorrectly. I would strongly advice against any diet or lifestyle that is unsustainable in the sense that people would not be able to do them indefinitely.",
">\n\nAre you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great.",
">\n\n\nAre you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great.\n\nMy god, can you do us all a favor and take that tiny gadget in your hand that provides you with all the knowledge in the entire world and bloody inform yourself? \nOf course diets do not \"work\". You are not an athlete that has to get in shape for a specific date/contest. Unless you have a very specific use case like a marriage date that you want to look nice on, \"diets\" do not make sense.\nWhat does work is making incremental changes to your lifestyle that are sustainable and that you can integrate into your life longterm. Starting small, but steadily building on your achievements.\nWhat constitutes success is really simple. Success is achieving and maintaining a medically healthy bodyweight and a level of fitness that gives you longterm health benefits and quality of life. You should do it for the exact same reasons that you presumably also brush your teeth. \nAnd by the way, not everyone that eats and thinks differently than you about food has an \"eating disorder\". That term has been washed out to oblivion. Binge eating is an ED. Something like bulimia is an ED. Giving a lot of thought about what you eat and having some impulse control about eating is not an \"ED\". Labeling other people as sick because of jealousy/negative self image is bloody disgusting.",
">\n\n\nMy god, can you do us all a favor and take that tiny gadget in your hand that provides you with all the knowledge in the entire world and bloody inform yourself?\n\nGood lord, you are upset about this. Perhaps having a cookie will make you feel better. While you eat your cookie, you can use your little device and look up what intuitive eating entails.",
">\n\nuummhh, that's not about this, it's just that caloric food will always be more tasty, this because in nature we should have preferred caloric food over veggies cos we would have survived more... nowadays, caloric food is easy to find instead",
">\n\nI intuitively ate half a bag of Hot Cheetos and now my stomach is in knots. The term is so silly",
">\n\nIntuitive eating is fun",
">\n\nOk?",
">\n\nI feel like you need to cook amd not eat take aways or TV dinner. Majority of our food is not pre made, you will find, if only you do certain things hands on instead of buying the grocery store equivalent.\nFor example- Make your own curd , make your own ginger garlic paste, grind your own coffee; make your own rice, dice your own veggies etc.\nWe are living in an age of ultra processed food. So try to avoid those. You will quickly discover you are automatically steering clear off of the \"unhealthy\" foods they talk about."
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"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods",
">\n\nOh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet. \nBut the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty. \nSo I would say it is synergistic.",
">\n\nIntuitive eating will always be geared towards people with restrict/binge habits. Many will restrict in order to be healthier and lose weight, then binge on whatever they feel like because they've thrown their body out of flux and give in to what they feel they are missing.\nI do best with intuitive eating, and I am healthiest on it. You have a particularly fatty and hearty meal, or something very sugary--your body actually craves balance and you'll want some roasted broccoli, or a salad. If you are constantly in restriction mode, you'll constantly be looking for the binge, and valuing it higher than any random salad, no matter how much you enjoy salad. \nIt's about getting your body back to baseline and it absolutely works. I'm less likely to splurge on fried chicken take out if I have a nice, complete dinner, and then when I feel the cravings coming on, I indulge in some chips, or fruit, or chocolate. You give your body what it asks for without restricting it to beyond desperation.",
">\n\nIt doesn't \"absolutely\" work. It works for some people. I'd bet a very limited amount of people with only a limited goalset.\nIntuitive eating will never be good for muscle building, for example, as you intuitively have no idea how much protein you've actually eaten.",
">\n\n\nYour baker around the corner has figured out a long time ago what to put on that cake in order to get you to keep buying it.\nBig corporations literally *engineer* their food to make you crave more food and buy more food. \n\nSugar. Fat.\nThat's it. Humans love sugar and fat. No engineering required. Just add butter.",
">\n\nThis isn’t what intuitive eating is",
">\n\nFor me intuitive eating means listening my body, not my cravings. When you eat healthy you feel good. If I drink a smoothie my body feels really different afterwards than after eating a bag of chips.",
">\n\n\nYou will require some motivation, or some disciplin in order to build healthy habits.\n\nThat's what intuitive eating is. Shaking foods you enjoy cold turkey makes you statistically doomed to fail and binge. Research suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months; and, according to one meta-analysis of intervention studies, dieters regain, on average, more than half of what they lose within two years. \nIntuitive eating is consciously making better choices and managing portions while allowing yourself to eat foods that you enjoy without guilt. It is incredibly sustainable long-term and is easy to make a subconscious habit. A similar way of eating is called the 80/20 rule. \n\nEat nutritious foods 80 percent of the time and have a serving of your favorite treat with the other 20 percent.",
">\n\n\nResearch suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months;\n\nI am certain that this tells us more about the diets people choose than how possible weight loss is. \nA realistic goal for most people to lose and maintain is about 5% of bodyweight every 3 months. To achieve this most people should be starting small, discovering small changes they are confident they could make, and focus on maintaining these changes.\nFor a 300 pound person this might translate into cutting 500 calories by replacing one meal or snack with a healthier option, and walking 10 minutes every day. After 3 months, and hopefully 15 pounds lost, the need to make some more small changes. Over the 2 to 4 years they're working on losing weight, they will experience a complete lifestyle overhaul.\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured. People have to completely transform their diet overnight, and start exercising at an unsustainable level, to hit their unrealistic goal of losing all the weight in a short period of time. Even if they have the discipline to accomplish their goals, the second they don't have to live this lifestyle they abandon it, and go back to living the lifestyle they enjoy.",
">\n\nAgree.\n\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured.\n\nI'm assuming that OP is advocating for those opposite approaches based on their understanding of intuitive eating.",
">\n\nYou assume incorrectly. I would strongly advice against any diet or lifestyle that is unsustainable in the sense that people would not be able to do them indefinitely.",
">\n\nAre you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great.",
">\n\n\nAre you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great.\n\nMy god, can you do us all a favor and take that tiny gadget in your hand that provides you with all the knowledge in the entire world and bloody inform yourself? \nOf course diets do not \"work\". You are not an athlete that has to get in shape for a specific date/contest. Unless you have a very specific use case like a marriage date that you want to look nice on, \"diets\" do not make sense.\nWhat does work is making incremental changes to your lifestyle that are sustainable and that you can integrate into your life longterm. Starting small, but steadily building on your achievements.\nWhat constitutes success is really simple. Success is achieving and maintaining a medically healthy bodyweight and a level of fitness that gives you longterm health benefits and quality of life. You should do it for the exact same reasons that you presumably also brush your teeth. \nAnd by the way, not everyone that eats and thinks differently than you about food has an \"eating disorder\". That term has been washed out to oblivion. Binge eating is an ED. Something like bulimia is an ED. Giving a lot of thought about what you eat and having some impulse control about eating is not an \"ED\". Labeling other people as sick because of jealousy/negative self image is bloody disgusting.",
">\n\n\nMy god, can you do us all a favor and take that tiny gadget in your hand that provides you with all the knowledge in the entire world and bloody inform yourself?\n\nGood lord, you are upset about this. Perhaps having a cookie will make you feel better. While you eat your cookie, you can use your little device and look up what intuitive eating entails.",
">\n\nuummhh, that's not about this, it's just that caloric food will always be more tasty, this because in nature we should have preferred caloric food over veggies cos we would have survived more... nowadays, caloric food is easy to find instead",
">\n\nI intuitively ate half a bag of Hot Cheetos and now my stomach is in knots. The term is so silly",
">\n\nIntuitive eating is fun",
">\n\nOk?",
">\n\nI feel like you need to cook amd not eat take aways or TV dinner. Majority of our food is not pre made, you will find, if only you do certain things hands on instead of buying the grocery store equivalent.\nFor example- Make your own curd , make your own ginger garlic paste, grind your own coffee; make your own rice, dice your own veggies etc.\nWe are living in an age of ultra processed food. So try to avoid those. You will quickly discover you are automatically steering clear off of the \"unhealthy\" foods they talk about.",
">\n\nIt works if you prepare right, as in buy only good stuff and give yourself all good options, then choose within those options. It does not work if you go to a store hungry and be like \"I'll just buy whatever I want to right now\", and give in to any craving."
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"The system is rigged against you and your intuition. \n\nYeah, if the majority of what you eat is pre-made (like frozen meals) or treats, but if that’s the case, that’s a big problem on its own. Even then, there is some value in listening to your body.\nThis is kinda weird, though. It’s the first time I hear the term intuitive eating when it comes to adults. I’ve only seen it with regards to toddlers/kids, but I guess some adults do need to re-learn how to eat.",
">\n\nFor obese people, I see \"intuitive eating\" as a goal of total lifestyle transformation.\nOne of the biggest mistakes people make when losing weight is they don't focus on developing a new lifestyle to maintain their losses. Often this involves calorie counting for years to know proper portioning to maintain a healthy weight. While you're doing this you should pay attention to your hunger and satisfaction, and learn to use them in place of calorie counting.\nAfter years of doing this, most people can get to a place where they don't need to count calories and can \"intuitively eat.\"",
">\n\nIs it really \"intuitive\" if you spent years measuring, learning the amounts and training said \"intuition\"?",
">\n\nKind of I guess. \nI recovered from a binge eating disorder and I’ve been tracking my food and weighing it 90% of the time for the last 2 years. I’ve lost 130 pounds. I’ve become more aware of what a “normal” portion is, when I feel satisfied and stopping rather than feeling stuffed, and learned when I’m feeling actually hungry as opposed to bored hungry. Also I’ve really learned what foods actually were making me feel like shit, and I barely crave them anymore. Do I still have an ice cream occasionally or get pizza? Yeah, but do I get 3 large pizzas and a bucket of ice cream every other day? Lol no\nI see the weighing and tracking as training wheels. I might have to do it for a few more years, I may not. I’ve been slowly letting myself go freeballing about it in more increments. Usually I do this on my off days, or on vacation, and I’ve learned how to not completely sabotage myself while still enjoying myself.\nIt takes time to reformat your brain, especially with food.",
">\n\nSo this wasn't very intuitive to you",
">\n\nLearning to ride a bike or write isn’t intuitive the first couple times, eventually it becomes so",
">\n\nIt's funny how intuitive eating is presented as a novel concept when 99% of people on the planet eat \"intuitively\", that is, without giving a shit about calories. People who are obese eat intuitively and that shit is not working for them.",
">\n\nIts pretty hard not to gain weight when your intuitive eating consists of a whole family size bag of chips and a 2L soda to wash it down.\nIf most people ate healthier intuitive eating would work for most of the population, unfortunately OP is right in that the big brands specifically make their food addicting with high sugar and salt content.",
">\n\nFacts, intuitive eating could probably work if your exercise routine is dialed in and your diet consists of higher protein, lower calorie stuff. But most people don't work out enough to burn significant calories and combining that with junk food which is designed to make you want more is a recipe for being out of shape",
">\n\nI just intuitively ate a hot fudge sundae and that shit was delicious",
">\n\nI just \"intuitively\" ate two rows of Oreos funny thing is, my bodies not too happy",
">\n\nWere they double stuffed?",
">\n\nyou know it",
">\n\nThey are the best kind after all.",
">\n\nI’m just… confused. You act like people can’t actually want to eat things that are healthy for them…",
">\n\nI don’t think that was his point it’s more that to get to the stage where you enjoy eating such food takes a lot of effort thus it’s not “intuitive” anymore.",
">\n\nWell they said “your body does not know intuitively what’s good for itself”\nI see that to mean, “your intuition doesn’t matter because corporations make junk food which your body gets addicted to” so they’re basically saying that someone can’t want to eat smth other than junk food when intuitively eating. Which is just wrong.",
">\n\nI mean yeah your body can differentiate between healthy and unhealthy food to an extent but I think his overall point was that society as a whole is eating so unhealthily that it’s not really intuitive for a lot of people any more.\nEating junk food is a habit for lots of people that is extremely hard to break.",
">\n\nI do intuitive eating. \nIt works amazingly well. \nThe only thing is, I make 100% of my food. You are correct that you can’t intuitive eat if the world makes everything to make you eat as much as possible. \nBut once I removed literally 100% of ultra-processed foods from my life, I can easily intuitively eat. \nDo I want a burger today? I make the buns and the patty. \nDo I want cake? I make the cake. \nSense I’ve been doing this I’ve lost an incredible amount of weight, feel much much better and literally enjoy everything I eat.",
">\n\nare you saying you lost the weight cuz of intuitive eating tho? Cuz im pretty sure its cuz you removed ultra processed foods",
">\n\nOh, 1000% because of my non-processed diet. \nBut the fact that I am able to eat literally whatever I want makes it a sustainable diet that I feel I can literally do for life. Which in turn makes it that I am consistent with how I eat. And the fact that I am not afraid to miss my “favorite meals” makes it so I am able (for the first time in my life) to just stop eating when I’m full and not when the plate is empty. \nSo I would say it is synergistic.",
">\n\nIntuitive eating will always be geared towards people with restrict/binge habits. Many will restrict in order to be healthier and lose weight, then binge on whatever they feel like because they've thrown their body out of flux and give in to what they feel they are missing.\nI do best with intuitive eating, and I am healthiest on it. You have a particularly fatty and hearty meal, or something very sugary--your body actually craves balance and you'll want some roasted broccoli, or a salad. If you are constantly in restriction mode, you'll constantly be looking for the binge, and valuing it higher than any random salad, no matter how much you enjoy salad. \nIt's about getting your body back to baseline and it absolutely works. I'm less likely to splurge on fried chicken take out if I have a nice, complete dinner, and then when I feel the cravings coming on, I indulge in some chips, or fruit, or chocolate. You give your body what it asks for without restricting it to beyond desperation.",
">\n\nIt doesn't \"absolutely\" work. It works for some people. I'd bet a very limited amount of people with only a limited goalset.\nIntuitive eating will never be good for muscle building, for example, as you intuitively have no idea how much protein you've actually eaten.",
">\n\n\nYour baker around the corner has figured out a long time ago what to put on that cake in order to get you to keep buying it.\nBig corporations literally *engineer* their food to make you crave more food and buy more food. \n\nSugar. Fat.\nThat's it. Humans love sugar and fat. No engineering required. Just add butter.",
">\n\nThis isn’t what intuitive eating is",
">\n\nFor me intuitive eating means listening my body, not my cravings. When you eat healthy you feel good. If I drink a smoothie my body feels really different afterwards than after eating a bag of chips.",
">\n\n\nYou will require some motivation, or some disciplin in order to build healthy habits.\n\nThat's what intuitive eating is. Shaking foods you enjoy cold turkey makes you statistically doomed to fail and binge. Research suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months; and, according to one meta-analysis of intervention studies, dieters regain, on average, more than half of what they lose within two years. \nIntuitive eating is consciously making better choices and managing portions while allowing yourself to eat foods that you enjoy without guilt. It is incredibly sustainable long-term and is easy to make a subconscious habit. A similar way of eating is called the 80/20 rule. \n\nEat nutritious foods 80 percent of the time and have a serving of your favorite treat with the other 20 percent.",
">\n\n\nResearch suggests that roughly 80% of people who shed a significant portion of their body fat will not maintain that degree of weight loss for 12 months;\n\nI am certain that this tells us more about the diets people choose than how possible weight loss is. \nA realistic goal for most people to lose and maintain is about 5% of bodyweight every 3 months. To achieve this most people should be starting small, discovering small changes they are confident they could make, and focus on maintaining these changes.\nFor a 300 pound person this might translate into cutting 500 calories by replacing one meal or snack with a healthier option, and walking 10 minutes every day. After 3 months, and hopefully 15 pounds lost, the need to make some more small changes. Over the 2 to 4 years they're working on losing weight, they will experience a complete lifestyle overhaul.\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured. People have to completely transform their diet overnight, and start exercising at an unsustainable level, to hit their unrealistic goal of losing all the weight in a short period of time. Even if they have the discipline to accomplish their goals, the second they don't have to live this lifestyle they abandon it, and go back to living the lifestyle they enjoy.",
">\n\nAgree.\n\nIf you look at the diets people choose, the complete opposite approach is favoured.\n\nI'm assuming that OP is advocating for those opposite approaches based on their understanding of intuitive eating.",
">\n\nYou assume incorrectly. I would strongly advice against any diet or lifestyle that is unsustainable in the sense that people would not be able to do them indefinitely.",
">\n\nAre you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great.",
">\n\n\nAre you claiming the alternative, dieting, DOES work? By what metric? What constitutes success? Is it the 95% fail rate, the damage caused by weight cycling, the development of an eating disorder? Because sure I guess, by all those metrics dieting works great.\n\nMy god, can you do us all a favor and take that tiny gadget in your hand that provides you with all the knowledge in the entire world and bloody inform yourself? \nOf course diets do not \"work\". You are not an athlete that has to get in shape for a specific date/contest. Unless you have a very specific use case like a marriage date that you want to look nice on, \"diets\" do not make sense.\nWhat does work is making incremental changes to your lifestyle that are sustainable and that you can integrate into your life longterm. Starting small, but steadily building on your achievements.\nWhat constitutes success is really simple. Success is achieving and maintaining a medically healthy bodyweight and a level of fitness that gives you longterm health benefits and quality of life. You should do it for the exact same reasons that you presumably also brush your teeth. \nAnd by the way, not everyone that eats and thinks differently than you about food has an \"eating disorder\". That term has been washed out to oblivion. Binge eating is an ED. Something like bulimia is an ED. Giving a lot of thought about what you eat and having some impulse control about eating is not an \"ED\". Labeling other people as sick because of jealousy/negative self image is bloody disgusting.",
">\n\n\nMy god, can you do us all a favor and take that tiny gadget in your hand that provides you with all the knowledge in the entire world and bloody inform yourself?\n\nGood lord, you are upset about this. Perhaps having a cookie will make you feel better. While you eat your cookie, you can use your little device and look up what intuitive eating entails.",
">\n\nuummhh, that's not about this, it's just that caloric food will always be more tasty, this because in nature we should have preferred caloric food over veggies cos we would have survived more... nowadays, caloric food is easy to find instead",
">\n\nI intuitively ate half a bag of Hot Cheetos and now my stomach is in knots. The term is so silly",
">\n\nIntuitive eating is fun",
">\n\nOk?",
">\n\nI feel like you need to cook amd not eat take aways or TV dinner. Majority of our food is not pre made, you will find, if only you do certain things hands on instead of buying the grocery store equivalent.\nFor example- Make your own curd , make your own ginger garlic paste, grind your own coffee; make your own rice, dice your own veggies etc.\nWe are living in an age of ultra processed food. So try to avoid those. You will quickly discover you are automatically steering clear off of the \"unhealthy\" foods they talk about.",
">\n\nIt works if you prepare right, as in buy only good stuff and give yourself all good options, then choose within those options. It does not work if you go to a store hungry and be like \"I'll just buy whatever I want to right now\", and give in to any craving.",
">\n\nEating without distractions including the television is a big help. It will make you focus mainly on your bodily sensations so you will likely eat less because you will pick up on when your stomach is full more easily. It has been working like a charm for me."
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The nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated.
If you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.
If you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.
If you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.
They don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people. | [
"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources."
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Idk, people were pretty upset about a nipple back in the early 00s 😂 | [
"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources.",
">\n\nThe nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated. \nIf you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.\nThey don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people."
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I can’t believe Florida used to be a swing state. Most the time it sounds like some dystopian conservastate. | [
"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources.",
">\n\nThe nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated. \nIf you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.\nThey don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people.",
">\n\nIdk, people were pretty upset about a nipple back in the early 00s 😂"
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DeSantis won his first election by an incredibly slim margin; he won reelection (against a candidate who had previously been both the governor of that state and a Republican) by a landslide.
I don’t really understand how enough of a state moves that far to the right that quickly.
Maybe they just really love a thoroughly uncharismatic culture warrior who bullies children and squanders millions in public funds. | [
"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources.",
">\n\nThe nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated. \nIf you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.\nThey don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people.",
">\n\nIdk, people were pretty upset about a nipple back in the early 00s 😂",
">\n\nI can’t believe Florida used to be a swing state. Most the time it sounds like some dystopian conservastate."
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I recall reading somewhere that a million republicans moved to FL during COVID because they liked his screw masks and vaccines policies. As a consequence, it turned some purple states more blue, and FL really, really red. | [
"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources.",
">\n\nThe nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated. \nIf you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.\nThey don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people.",
">\n\nIdk, people were pretty upset about a nipple back in the early 00s 😂",
">\n\nI can’t believe Florida used to be a swing state. Most the time it sounds like some dystopian conservastate.",
">\n\nDeSantis won his first election by an incredibly slim margin; he won reelection (against a candidate who had previously been both the governor of that state and a Republican) by a landslide.\nI don’t really understand how enough of a state moves that far to the right that quickly.\nMaybe they just really love a thoroughly uncharismatic culture warrior who bullies children and squanders millions in public funds."
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A drag show, that was for 18+, unless accompanied by a parent. Are parents going to be referred to CPS if they take their kids to an R rated movie too? | [
"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources.",
">\n\nThe nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated. \nIf you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.\nThey don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people.",
">\n\nIdk, people were pretty upset about a nipple back in the early 00s 😂",
">\n\nI can’t believe Florida used to be a swing state. Most the time it sounds like some dystopian conservastate.",
">\n\nDeSantis won his first election by an incredibly slim margin; he won reelection (against a candidate who had previously been both the governor of that state and a Republican) by a landslide.\nI don’t really understand how enough of a state moves that far to the right that quickly.\nMaybe they just really love a thoroughly uncharismatic culture warrior who bullies children and squanders millions in public funds.",
">\n\nI recall reading somewhere that a million republicans moved to FL during COVID because they liked his screw masks and vaccines policies. As a consequence, it turned some purple states more blue, and FL really, really red."
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Does the movie prominently feature a marginalized group the Florida GOP is trying to demonize to agitate their political base? | [
"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources.",
">\n\nThe nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated. \nIf you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.\nThey don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people.",
">\n\nIdk, people were pretty upset about a nipple back in the early 00s 😂",
">\n\nI can’t believe Florida used to be a swing state. Most the time it sounds like some dystopian conservastate.",
">\n\nDeSantis won his first election by an incredibly slim margin; he won reelection (against a candidate who had previously been both the governor of that state and a Republican) by a landslide.\nI don’t really understand how enough of a state moves that far to the right that quickly.\nMaybe they just really love a thoroughly uncharismatic culture warrior who bullies children and squanders millions in public funds.",
">\n\nI recall reading somewhere that a million republicans moved to FL during COVID because they liked his screw masks and vaccines policies. As a consequence, it turned some purple states more blue, and FL really, really red.",
">\n\nA drag show, that was for 18+, unless accompanied by a parent. Are parents going to be referred to CPS if they take their kids to an R rated movie too?"
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Confederate Republican ron desantis is doing this because, like a magician uses a shiny object, desantis needs the distraction from his record as governor. | [
"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources.",
">\n\nThe nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated. \nIf you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.\nThey don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people.",
">\n\nIdk, people were pretty upset about a nipple back in the early 00s 😂",
">\n\nI can’t believe Florida used to be a swing state. Most the time it sounds like some dystopian conservastate.",
">\n\nDeSantis won his first election by an incredibly slim margin; he won reelection (against a candidate who had previously been both the governor of that state and a Republican) by a landslide.\nI don’t really understand how enough of a state moves that far to the right that quickly.\nMaybe they just really love a thoroughly uncharismatic culture warrior who bullies children and squanders millions in public funds.",
">\n\nI recall reading somewhere that a million republicans moved to FL during COVID because they liked his screw masks and vaccines policies. As a consequence, it turned some purple states more blue, and FL really, really red.",
">\n\nA drag show, that was for 18+, unless accompanied by a parent. Are parents going to be referred to CPS if they take their kids to an R rated movie too?",
">\n\nDoes the movie prominently feature a marginalized group the Florida GOP is trying to demonize to agitate their political base?"
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Florida is the least free state in America | [
"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources.",
">\n\nThe nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated. \nIf you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.\nThey don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people.",
">\n\nIdk, people were pretty upset about a nipple back in the early 00s 😂",
">\n\nI can’t believe Florida used to be a swing state. Most the time it sounds like some dystopian conservastate.",
">\n\nDeSantis won his first election by an incredibly slim margin; he won reelection (against a candidate who had previously been both the governor of that state and a Republican) by a landslide.\nI don’t really understand how enough of a state moves that far to the right that quickly.\nMaybe they just really love a thoroughly uncharismatic culture warrior who bullies children and squanders millions in public funds.",
">\n\nI recall reading somewhere that a million republicans moved to FL during COVID because they liked his screw masks and vaccines policies. As a consequence, it turned some purple states more blue, and FL really, really red.",
">\n\nA drag show, that was for 18+, unless accompanied by a parent. Are parents going to be referred to CPS if they take their kids to an R rated movie too?",
">\n\nDoes the movie prominently feature a marginalized group the Florida GOP is trying to demonize to agitate their political base?",
">\n\nConfederate Republican ron desantis is doing this because, like a magician uses a shiny object, desantis needs the distraction from his record as governor."
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I'm less interested in what pearl clutching concern trolls said happened and more interested in what actually happened | [
"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources.",
">\n\nThe nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated. \nIf you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.\nThey don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people.",
">\n\nIdk, people were pretty upset about a nipple back in the early 00s 😂",
">\n\nI can’t believe Florida used to be a swing state. Most the time it sounds like some dystopian conservastate.",
">\n\nDeSantis won his first election by an incredibly slim margin; he won reelection (against a candidate who had previously been both the governor of that state and a Republican) by a landslide.\nI don’t really understand how enough of a state moves that far to the right that quickly.\nMaybe they just really love a thoroughly uncharismatic culture warrior who bullies children and squanders millions in public funds.",
">\n\nI recall reading somewhere that a million republicans moved to FL during COVID because they liked his screw masks and vaccines policies. As a consequence, it turned some purple states more blue, and FL really, really red.",
">\n\nA drag show, that was for 18+, unless accompanied by a parent. Are parents going to be referred to CPS if they take their kids to an R rated movie too?",
">\n\nDoes the movie prominently feature a marginalized group the Florida GOP is trying to demonize to agitate their political base?",
">\n\nConfederate Republican ron desantis is doing this because, like a magician uses a shiny object, desantis needs the distraction from his record as governor.",
">\n\nFlorida is the least free state in America"
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I’m not, really. From the article:
Event staff posted a sign to advise that some of the content may not be suitable for those under the age of 18. However, the state released images of adults bringing children into the venue.
If the aforementioned adults were parents, guardians, or adults with proper authority to act in the legal guardians’ stead, this is no different than legally penalizing a movie theater because a family brought their kids to an R-rated movie.
The only thing of any significance that happened appears to be the infiltration of local government by pearl-clutching concern trolls. | [
"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources.",
">\n\nThe nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated. \nIf you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.\nThey don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people.",
">\n\nIdk, people were pretty upset about a nipple back in the early 00s 😂",
">\n\nI can’t believe Florida used to be a swing state. Most the time it sounds like some dystopian conservastate.",
">\n\nDeSantis won his first election by an incredibly slim margin; he won reelection (against a candidate who had previously been both the governor of that state and a Republican) by a landslide.\nI don’t really understand how enough of a state moves that far to the right that quickly.\nMaybe they just really love a thoroughly uncharismatic culture warrior who bullies children and squanders millions in public funds.",
">\n\nI recall reading somewhere that a million republicans moved to FL during COVID because they liked his screw masks and vaccines policies. As a consequence, it turned some purple states more blue, and FL really, really red.",
">\n\nA drag show, that was for 18+, unless accompanied by a parent. Are parents going to be referred to CPS if they take their kids to an R rated movie too?",
">\n\nDoes the movie prominently feature a marginalized group the Florida GOP is trying to demonize to agitate their political base?",
">\n\nConfederate Republican ron desantis is doing this because, like a magician uses a shiny object, desantis needs the distraction from his record as governor.",
">\n\nFlorida is the least free state in America",
">\n\nI'm less interested in what pearl clutching concern trolls said happened and more interested in what actually happened"
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Don't forget you are supposed to be able to raise your kids anyway you want. | [
"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources.",
">\n\nThe nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated. \nIf you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.\nThey don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people.",
">\n\nIdk, people were pretty upset about a nipple back in the early 00s 😂",
">\n\nI can’t believe Florida used to be a swing state. Most the time it sounds like some dystopian conservastate.",
">\n\nDeSantis won his first election by an incredibly slim margin; he won reelection (against a candidate who had previously been both the governor of that state and a Republican) by a landslide.\nI don’t really understand how enough of a state moves that far to the right that quickly.\nMaybe they just really love a thoroughly uncharismatic culture warrior who bullies children and squanders millions in public funds.",
">\n\nI recall reading somewhere that a million republicans moved to FL during COVID because they liked his screw masks and vaccines policies. As a consequence, it turned some purple states more blue, and FL really, really red.",
">\n\nA drag show, that was for 18+, unless accompanied by a parent. Are parents going to be referred to CPS if they take their kids to an R rated movie too?",
">\n\nDoes the movie prominently feature a marginalized group the Florida GOP is trying to demonize to agitate their political base?",
">\n\nConfederate Republican ron desantis is doing this because, like a magician uses a shiny object, desantis needs the distraction from his record as governor.",
">\n\nFlorida is the least free state in America",
">\n\nI'm less interested in what pearl clutching concern trolls said happened and more interested in what actually happened",
">\n\nI’m not, really. From the article:\n\nEvent staff posted a sign to advise that some of the content may not be suitable for those under the age of 18. However, the state released images of adults bringing children into the venue.\n\nIf the aforementioned adults were parents, guardians, or adults with proper authority to act in the legal guardians’ stead, this is no different than legally penalizing a movie theater because a family brought their kids to an R-rated movie.\nThe only thing of any significance that happened appears to be the infiltration of local government by pearl-clutching concern trolls."
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Apparently that’s only true if you want to raise your kids in the exact way they deem “correct”.
Because they’re from the party of small government and family choice or something. | [
"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources.",
">\n\nThe nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated. \nIf you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.\nThey don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people.",
">\n\nIdk, people were pretty upset about a nipple back in the early 00s 😂",
">\n\nI can’t believe Florida used to be a swing state. Most the time it sounds like some dystopian conservastate.",
">\n\nDeSantis won his first election by an incredibly slim margin; he won reelection (against a candidate who had previously been both the governor of that state and a Republican) by a landslide.\nI don’t really understand how enough of a state moves that far to the right that quickly.\nMaybe they just really love a thoroughly uncharismatic culture warrior who bullies children and squanders millions in public funds.",
">\n\nI recall reading somewhere that a million republicans moved to FL during COVID because they liked his screw masks and vaccines policies. As a consequence, it turned some purple states more blue, and FL really, really red.",
">\n\nA drag show, that was for 18+, unless accompanied by a parent. Are parents going to be referred to CPS if they take their kids to an R rated movie too?",
">\n\nDoes the movie prominently feature a marginalized group the Florida GOP is trying to demonize to agitate their political base?",
">\n\nConfederate Republican ron desantis is doing this because, like a magician uses a shiny object, desantis needs the distraction from his record as governor.",
">\n\nFlorida is the least free state in America",
">\n\nI'm less interested in what pearl clutching concern trolls said happened and more interested in what actually happened",
">\n\nI’m not, really. From the article:\n\nEvent staff posted a sign to advise that some of the content may not be suitable for those under the age of 18. However, the state released images of adults bringing children into the venue.\n\nIf the aforementioned adults were parents, guardians, or adults with proper authority to act in the legal guardians’ stead, this is no different than legally penalizing a movie theater because a family brought their kids to an R-rated movie.\nThe only thing of any significance that happened appears to be the infiltration of local government by pearl-clutching concern trolls.",
">\n\nDon't forget you are supposed to be able to raise your kids anyway you want."
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More right wing insanity using government to force behavior. | [
"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources.",
">\n\nThe nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated. \nIf you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.\nThey don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people.",
">\n\nIdk, people were pretty upset about a nipple back in the early 00s 😂",
">\n\nI can’t believe Florida used to be a swing state. Most the time it sounds like some dystopian conservastate.",
">\n\nDeSantis won his first election by an incredibly slim margin; he won reelection (against a candidate who had previously been both the governor of that state and a Republican) by a landslide.\nI don’t really understand how enough of a state moves that far to the right that quickly.\nMaybe they just really love a thoroughly uncharismatic culture warrior who bullies children and squanders millions in public funds.",
">\n\nI recall reading somewhere that a million republicans moved to FL during COVID because they liked his screw masks and vaccines policies. As a consequence, it turned some purple states more blue, and FL really, really red.",
">\n\nA drag show, that was for 18+, unless accompanied by a parent. Are parents going to be referred to CPS if they take their kids to an R rated movie too?",
">\n\nDoes the movie prominently feature a marginalized group the Florida GOP is trying to demonize to agitate their political base?",
">\n\nConfederate Republican ron desantis is doing this because, like a magician uses a shiny object, desantis needs the distraction from his record as governor.",
">\n\nFlorida is the least free state in America",
">\n\nI'm less interested in what pearl clutching concern trolls said happened and more interested in what actually happened",
">\n\nI’m not, really. From the article:\n\nEvent staff posted a sign to advise that some of the content may not be suitable for those under the age of 18. However, the state released images of adults bringing children into the venue.\n\nIf the aforementioned adults were parents, guardians, or adults with proper authority to act in the legal guardians’ stead, this is no different than legally penalizing a movie theater because a family brought their kids to an R-rated movie.\nThe only thing of any significance that happened appears to be the infiltration of local government by pearl-clutching concern trolls.",
">\n\nDon't forget you are supposed to be able to raise your kids anyway you want.",
">\n\nApparently that’s only true if you want to raise your kids in the exact way they deem “correct”.\nBecause they’re from the party of small government and family choice or something."
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Ron DeSantis 2024
When Open Racism is not Enough | [
"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources.",
">\n\nThe nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated. \nIf you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.\nThey don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people.",
">\n\nIdk, people were pretty upset about a nipple back in the early 00s 😂",
">\n\nI can’t believe Florida used to be a swing state. Most the time it sounds like some dystopian conservastate.",
">\n\nDeSantis won his first election by an incredibly slim margin; he won reelection (against a candidate who had previously been both the governor of that state and a Republican) by a landslide.\nI don’t really understand how enough of a state moves that far to the right that quickly.\nMaybe they just really love a thoroughly uncharismatic culture warrior who bullies children and squanders millions in public funds.",
">\n\nI recall reading somewhere that a million republicans moved to FL during COVID because they liked his screw masks and vaccines policies. As a consequence, it turned some purple states more blue, and FL really, really red.",
">\n\nA drag show, that was for 18+, unless accompanied by a parent. Are parents going to be referred to CPS if they take their kids to an R rated movie too?",
">\n\nDoes the movie prominently feature a marginalized group the Florida GOP is trying to demonize to agitate their political base?",
">\n\nConfederate Republican ron desantis is doing this because, like a magician uses a shiny object, desantis needs the distraction from his record as governor.",
">\n\nFlorida is the least free state in America",
">\n\nI'm less interested in what pearl clutching concern trolls said happened and more interested in what actually happened",
">\n\nI’m not, really. From the article:\n\nEvent staff posted a sign to advise that some of the content may not be suitable for those under the age of 18. However, the state released images of adults bringing children into the venue.\n\nIf the aforementioned adults were parents, guardians, or adults with proper authority to act in the legal guardians’ stead, this is no different than legally penalizing a movie theater because a family brought their kids to an R-rated movie.\nThe only thing of any significance that happened appears to be the infiltration of local government by pearl-clutching concern trolls.",
">\n\nDon't forget you are supposed to be able to raise your kids anyway you want.",
">\n\nApparently that’s only true if you want to raise your kids in the exact way they deem “correct”.\nBecause they’re from the party of small government and family choice or something.",
">\n\nMore right wing insanity using government to force behavior."
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Republicans love their nanny government telling them what they are allowed to do apparently. | [
"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources.",
">\n\nThe nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated. \nIf you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.\nThey don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people.",
">\n\nIdk, people were pretty upset about a nipple back in the early 00s 😂",
">\n\nI can’t believe Florida used to be a swing state. Most the time it sounds like some dystopian conservastate.",
">\n\nDeSantis won his first election by an incredibly slim margin; he won reelection (against a candidate who had previously been both the governor of that state and a Republican) by a landslide.\nI don’t really understand how enough of a state moves that far to the right that quickly.\nMaybe they just really love a thoroughly uncharismatic culture warrior who bullies children and squanders millions in public funds.",
">\n\nI recall reading somewhere that a million republicans moved to FL during COVID because they liked his screw masks and vaccines policies. As a consequence, it turned some purple states more blue, and FL really, really red.",
">\n\nA drag show, that was for 18+, unless accompanied by a parent. Are parents going to be referred to CPS if they take their kids to an R rated movie too?",
">\n\nDoes the movie prominently feature a marginalized group the Florida GOP is trying to demonize to agitate their political base?",
">\n\nConfederate Republican ron desantis is doing this because, like a magician uses a shiny object, desantis needs the distraction from his record as governor.",
">\n\nFlorida is the least free state in America",
">\n\nI'm less interested in what pearl clutching concern trolls said happened and more interested in what actually happened",
">\n\nI’m not, really. From the article:\n\nEvent staff posted a sign to advise that some of the content may not be suitable for those under the age of 18. However, the state released images of adults bringing children into the venue.\n\nIf the aforementioned adults were parents, guardians, or adults with proper authority to act in the legal guardians’ stead, this is no different than legally penalizing a movie theater because a family brought their kids to an R-rated movie.\nThe only thing of any significance that happened appears to be the infiltration of local government by pearl-clutching concern trolls.",
">\n\nDon't forget you are supposed to be able to raise your kids anyway you want.",
">\n\nApparently that’s only true if you want to raise your kids in the exact way they deem “correct”.\nBecause they’re from the party of small government and family choice or something.",
">\n\nMore right wing insanity using government to force behavior.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis 2024\nWhen Open Racism is not Enough"
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Would Monty Python or The Kids in the Hall be considered drag performs in Florida? They often performed and even sang songs in drag. | [
"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources.",
">\n\nThe nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated. \nIf you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.\nThey don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people.",
">\n\nIdk, people were pretty upset about a nipple back in the early 00s 😂",
">\n\nI can’t believe Florida used to be a swing state. Most the time it sounds like some dystopian conservastate.",
">\n\nDeSantis won his first election by an incredibly slim margin; he won reelection (against a candidate who had previously been both the governor of that state and a Republican) by a landslide.\nI don’t really understand how enough of a state moves that far to the right that quickly.\nMaybe they just really love a thoroughly uncharismatic culture warrior who bullies children and squanders millions in public funds.",
">\n\nI recall reading somewhere that a million republicans moved to FL during COVID because they liked his screw masks and vaccines policies. As a consequence, it turned some purple states more blue, and FL really, really red.",
">\n\nA drag show, that was for 18+, unless accompanied by a parent. Are parents going to be referred to CPS if they take their kids to an R rated movie too?",
">\n\nDoes the movie prominently feature a marginalized group the Florida GOP is trying to demonize to agitate their political base?",
">\n\nConfederate Republican ron desantis is doing this because, like a magician uses a shiny object, desantis needs the distraction from his record as governor.",
">\n\nFlorida is the least free state in America",
">\n\nI'm less interested in what pearl clutching concern trolls said happened and more interested in what actually happened",
">\n\nI’m not, really. From the article:\n\nEvent staff posted a sign to advise that some of the content may not be suitable for those under the age of 18. However, the state released images of adults bringing children into the venue.\n\nIf the aforementioned adults were parents, guardians, or adults with proper authority to act in the legal guardians’ stead, this is no different than legally penalizing a movie theater because a family brought their kids to an R-rated movie.\nThe only thing of any significance that happened appears to be the infiltration of local government by pearl-clutching concern trolls.",
">\n\nDon't forget you are supposed to be able to raise your kids anyway you want.",
">\n\nApparently that’s only true if you want to raise your kids in the exact way they deem “correct”.\nBecause they’re from the party of small government and family choice or something.",
">\n\nMore right wing insanity using government to force behavior.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis 2024\nWhen Open Racism is not Enough",
">\n\nRepublicans love their nanny government telling them what they are allowed to do apparently."
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I went to a theater one time, and they were playing the movie "Pricilla: Queen of the Desert." That's utter filth! Drag queens parading on screen! Take away their license.
(actually not a bad movie, Hugo Weaving and Terrance Stamp are good actors) | [
"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources.",
">\n\nThe nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated. \nIf you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.\nThey don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people.",
">\n\nIdk, people were pretty upset about a nipple back in the early 00s 😂",
">\n\nI can’t believe Florida used to be a swing state. Most the time it sounds like some dystopian conservastate.",
">\n\nDeSantis won his first election by an incredibly slim margin; he won reelection (against a candidate who had previously been both the governor of that state and a Republican) by a landslide.\nI don’t really understand how enough of a state moves that far to the right that quickly.\nMaybe they just really love a thoroughly uncharismatic culture warrior who bullies children and squanders millions in public funds.",
">\n\nI recall reading somewhere that a million republicans moved to FL during COVID because they liked his screw masks and vaccines policies. As a consequence, it turned some purple states more blue, and FL really, really red.",
">\n\nA drag show, that was for 18+, unless accompanied by a parent. Are parents going to be referred to CPS if they take their kids to an R rated movie too?",
">\n\nDoes the movie prominently feature a marginalized group the Florida GOP is trying to demonize to agitate their political base?",
">\n\nConfederate Republican ron desantis is doing this because, like a magician uses a shiny object, desantis needs the distraction from his record as governor.",
">\n\nFlorida is the least free state in America",
">\n\nI'm less interested in what pearl clutching concern trolls said happened and more interested in what actually happened",
">\n\nI’m not, really. From the article:\n\nEvent staff posted a sign to advise that some of the content may not be suitable for those under the age of 18. However, the state released images of adults bringing children into the venue.\n\nIf the aforementioned adults were parents, guardians, or adults with proper authority to act in the legal guardians’ stead, this is no different than legally penalizing a movie theater because a family brought their kids to an R-rated movie.\nThe only thing of any significance that happened appears to be the infiltration of local government by pearl-clutching concern trolls.",
">\n\nDon't forget you are supposed to be able to raise your kids anyway you want.",
">\n\nApparently that’s only true if you want to raise your kids in the exact way they deem “correct”.\nBecause they’re from the party of small government and family choice or something.",
">\n\nMore right wing insanity using government to force behavior.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis 2024\nWhen Open Racism is not Enough",
">\n\nRepublicans love their nanny government telling them what they are allowed to do apparently.",
">\n\nWould Monty Python or The Kids in the Hall be considered drag performs in Florida? They often performed and even sang songs in drag."
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That punishment makes no sense. They did non-kid friendly things, so as a punishment they made the venue more kid friendly. | [
"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources.",
">\n\nThe nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated. \nIf you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.\nThey don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people.",
">\n\nIdk, people were pretty upset about a nipple back in the early 00s 😂",
">\n\nI can’t believe Florida used to be a swing state. Most the time it sounds like some dystopian conservastate.",
">\n\nDeSantis won his first election by an incredibly slim margin; he won reelection (against a candidate who had previously been both the governor of that state and a Republican) by a landslide.\nI don’t really understand how enough of a state moves that far to the right that quickly.\nMaybe they just really love a thoroughly uncharismatic culture warrior who bullies children and squanders millions in public funds.",
">\n\nI recall reading somewhere that a million republicans moved to FL during COVID because they liked his screw masks and vaccines policies. As a consequence, it turned some purple states more blue, and FL really, really red.",
">\n\nA drag show, that was for 18+, unless accompanied by a parent. Are parents going to be referred to CPS if they take their kids to an R rated movie too?",
">\n\nDoes the movie prominently feature a marginalized group the Florida GOP is trying to demonize to agitate their political base?",
">\n\nConfederate Republican ron desantis is doing this because, like a magician uses a shiny object, desantis needs the distraction from his record as governor.",
">\n\nFlorida is the least free state in America",
">\n\nI'm less interested in what pearl clutching concern trolls said happened and more interested in what actually happened",
">\n\nI’m not, really. From the article:\n\nEvent staff posted a sign to advise that some of the content may not be suitable for those under the age of 18. However, the state released images of adults bringing children into the venue.\n\nIf the aforementioned adults were parents, guardians, or adults with proper authority to act in the legal guardians’ stead, this is no different than legally penalizing a movie theater because a family brought their kids to an R-rated movie.\nThe only thing of any significance that happened appears to be the infiltration of local government by pearl-clutching concern trolls.",
">\n\nDon't forget you are supposed to be able to raise your kids anyway you want.",
">\n\nApparently that’s only true if you want to raise your kids in the exact way they deem “correct”.\nBecause they’re from the party of small government and family choice or something.",
">\n\nMore right wing insanity using government to force behavior.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis 2024\nWhen Open Racism is not Enough",
">\n\nRepublicans love their nanny government telling them what they are allowed to do apparently.",
">\n\nWould Monty Python or The Kids in the Hall be considered drag performs in Florida? They often performed and even sang songs in drag.",
">\n\nI went to a theater one time, and they were playing the movie \"Pricilla: Queen of the Desert.\" That's utter filth! Drag queens parading on screen! Take away their license.\n(actually not a bad movie, Hugo Weaving and Terrance Stamp are good actors)"
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They are hoping it causes the business to close. | [
"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources.",
">\n\nThe nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated. \nIf you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.\nThey don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people.",
">\n\nIdk, people were pretty upset about a nipple back in the early 00s 😂",
">\n\nI can’t believe Florida used to be a swing state. Most the time it sounds like some dystopian conservastate.",
">\n\nDeSantis won his first election by an incredibly slim margin; he won reelection (against a candidate who had previously been both the governor of that state and a Republican) by a landslide.\nI don’t really understand how enough of a state moves that far to the right that quickly.\nMaybe they just really love a thoroughly uncharismatic culture warrior who bullies children and squanders millions in public funds.",
">\n\nI recall reading somewhere that a million republicans moved to FL during COVID because they liked his screw masks and vaccines policies. As a consequence, it turned some purple states more blue, and FL really, really red.",
">\n\nA drag show, that was for 18+, unless accompanied by a parent. Are parents going to be referred to CPS if they take their kids to an R rated movie too?",
">\n\nDoes the movie prominently feature a marginalized group the Florida GOP is trying to demonize to agitate their political base?",
">\n\nConfederate Republican ron desantis is doing this because, like a magician uses a shiny object, desantis needs the distraction from his record as governor.",
">\n\nFlorida is the least free state in America",
">\n\nI'm less interested in what pearl clutching concern trolls said happened and more interested in what actually happened",
">\n\nI’m not, really. From the article:\n\nEvent staff posted a sign to advise that some of the content may not be suitable for those under the age of 18. However, the state released images of adults bringing children into the venue.\n\nIf the aforementioned adults were parents, guardians, or adults with proper authority to act in the legal guardians’ stead, this is no different than legally penalizing a movie theater because a family brought their kids to an R-rated movie.\nThe only thing of any significance that happened appears to be the infiltration of local government by pearl-clutching concern trolls.",
">\n\nDon't forget you are supposed to be able to raise your kids anyway you want.",
">\n\nApparently that’s only true if you want to raise your kids in the exact way they deem “correct”.\nBecause they’re from the party of small government and family choice or something.",
">\n\nMore right wing insanity using government to force behavior.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis 2024\nWhen Open Racism is not Enough",
">\n\nRepublicans love their nanny government telling them what they are allowed to do apparently.",
">\n\nWould Monty Python or The Kids in the Hall be considered drag performs in Florida? They often performed and even sang songs in drag.",
">\n\nI went to a theater one time, and they were playing the movie \"Pricilla: Queen of the Desert.\" That's utter filth! Drag queens parading on screen! Take away their license.\n(actually not a bad movie, Hugo Weaving and Terrance Stamp are good actors)",
">\n\nThat punishment makes no sense. They did non-kid friendly things, so as a punishment they made the venue more kid friendly."
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"Desantis and his supporters are such an unneeded waste of resources.",
">\n\nThe nonsensical theater that this is cannot be overstated. \nIf you ask the people who support this if a Hooters restaurant should lose its liquor license if a minor goes into it, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask the people who support this. If a high school should lose funding for having an overtly sexual cheerleader dance segment, they would act like you were insane.\nIf you ask these people if a football team should be punished for having an overtly sexual halftime show, they would think you were insane.\nThey don't care, at all, about minors seeing sexually charged content. They just want to use it as an excuse to demonize LGBTQ people.",
">\n\nIdk, people were pretty upset about a nipple back in the early 00s 😂",
">\n\nI can’t believe Florida used to be a swing state. Most the time it sounds like some dystopian conservastate.",
">\n\nDeSantis won his first election by an incredibly slim margin; he won reelection (against a candidate who had previously been both the governor of that state and a Republican) by a landslide.\nI don’t really understand how enough of a state moves that far to the right that quickly.\nMaybe they just really love a thoroughly uncharismatic culture warrior who bullies children and squanders millions in public funds.",
">\n\nI recall reading somewhere that a million republicans moved to FL during COVID because they liked his screw masks and vaccines policies. As a consequence, it turned some purple states more blue, and FL really, really red.",
">\n\nA drag show, that was for 18+, unless accompanied by a parent. Are parents going to be referred to CPS if they take their kids to an R rated movie too?",
">\n\nDoes the movie prominently feature a marginalized group the Florida GOP is trying to demonize to agitate their political base?",
">\n\nConfederate Republican ron desantis is doing this because, like a magician uses a shiny object, desantis needs the distraction from his record as governor.",
">\n\nFlorida is the least free state in America",
">\n\nI'm less interested in what pearl clutching concern trolls said happened and more interested in what actually happened",
">\n\nI’m not, really. From the article:\n\nEvent staff posted a sign to advise that some of the content may not be suitable for those under the age of 18. However, the state released images of adults bringing children into the venue.\n\nIf the aforementioned adults were parents, guardians, or adults with proper authority to act in the legal guardians’ stead, this is no different than legally penalizing a movie theater because a family brought their kids to an R-rated movie.\nThe only thing of any significance that happened appears to be the infiltration of local government by pearl-clutching concern trolls.",
">\n\nDon't forget you are supposed to be able to raise your kids anyway you want.",
">\n\nApparently that’s only true if you want to raise your kids in the exact way they deem “correct”.\nBecause they’re from the party of small government and family choice or something.",
">\n\nMore right wing insanity using government to force behavior.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis 2024\nWhen Open Racism is not Enough",
">\n\nRepublicans love their nanny government telling them what they are allowed to do apparently.",
">\n\nWould Monty Python or The Kids in the Hall be considered drag performs in Florida? They often performed and even sang songs in drag.",
">\n\nI went to a theater one time, and they were playing the movie \"Pricilla: Queen of the Desert.\" That's utter filth! Drag queens parading on screen! Take away their license.\n(actually not a bad movie, Hugo Weaving and Terrance Stamp are good actors)",
">\n\nThat punishment makes no sense. They did non-kid friendly things, so as a punishment they made the venue more kid friendly.",
">\n\nThey are hoping it causes the business to close."
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I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it. | [] |
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I do. What the fuck are you talking about?
I’m known for saying things that other people find stupid
I wonder why. | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it."
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Oh be nice | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why."
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Yea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot! | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice"
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Idiots are people too, I think | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!"
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You make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk. | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think"
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Let me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?
You can't shit talk your friends until you're friends. | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk."
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No, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things. | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends."
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It's the thing, a true friend isn't afraid to call you on your bullshit. I agree, but you can still be kind sometimes too, there is a time and place for both. | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends.",
">\n\nNo, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things."
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It's a healthy dose of standing your ground and calling your friends out to better them, while also supporting their decisions regardless of your advice. Just being friendly or combative with people is just one layer of depth out of hundreds. | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends.",
">\n\nNo, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things.",
">\n\nIt's the thing, a true friend isn't afraid to call you on your bullshit. I agree, but you can still be kind sometimes too, there is a time and place for both."
] |
>
Nor do bullets make friends... I am not sure your outlook is healthy to you and those that interact with you.
Being nice is basically an example of showing weakness or trusting the other to either be trustworthy or show the quality of their character.
you sound like an adherent of the 48 rules of power.
It is a fatally flawed perspective. why? because what we do as social animals involves trust if all we have is mistrust then offence will become the rule... violence both covert and overt will be the norm... we seem to go here (hobbes nasty brutish and short life) perspective every century or so might be that the children of prosperous peaceful times take it as an entitlement and take more than give...
All I seem to have is questions.
Just to say there are situations where being mean is appropriate like when an asshole is acting out... protecting those who are unable to protect themselves...
Be mean to discourage assholes dont be mean to make brownie points with a group of assholes.... | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends.",
">\n\nNo, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things.",
">\n\nIt's the thing, a true friend isn't afraid to call you on your bullshit. I agree, but you can still be kind sometimes too, there is a time and place for both.",
">\n\nIt's a healthy dose of standing your ground and calling your friends out to better them, while also supporting their decisions regardless of your advice. Just being friendly or combative with people is just one layer of depth out of hundreds."
] |
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I’m happy and I trust my friends so guess I disagree with you | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends.",
">\n\nNo, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things.",
">\n\nIt's the thing, a true friend isn't afraid to call you on your bullshit. I agree, but you can still be kind sometimes too, there is a time and place for both.",
">\n\nIt's a healthy dose of standing your ground and calling your friends out to better them, while also supporting their decisions regardless of your advice. Just being friendly or combative with people is just one layer of depth out of hundreds.",
">\n\nNor do bullets make friends... I am not sure your outlook is healthy to you and those that interact with you.\nBeing nice is basically an example of showing weakness or trusting the other to either be trustworthy or show the quality of their character.\nyou sound like an adherent of the 48 rules of power.\nIt is a fatally flawed perspective. why? because what we do as social animals involves trust if all we have is mistrust then offence will become the rule... violence both covert and overt will be the norm... we seem to go here (hobbes nasty brutish and short life) perspective every century or so might be that the children of prosperous peaceful times take it as an entitlement and take more than give...\nAll I seem to have is questions.\nJust to say there are situations where being mean is appropriate like when an asshole is acting out... protecting those who are unable to protect themselves...\nBe mean to discourage assholes dont be mean to make brownie points with a group of assholes...."
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Right on...... dont forget your safe word... :) | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends.",
">\n\nNo, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things.",
">\n\nIt's the thing, a true friend isn't afraid to call you on your bullshit. I agree, but you can still be kind sometimes too, there is a time and place for both.",
">\n\nIt's a healthy dose of standing your ground and calling your friends out to better them, while also supporting their decisions regardless of your advice. Just being friendly or combative with people is just one layer of depth out of hundreds.",
">\n\nNor do bullets make friends... I am not sure your outlook is healthy to you and those that interact with you.\nBeing nice is basically an example of showing weakness or trusting the other to either be trustworthy or show the quality of their character.\nyou sound like an adherent of the 48 rules of power.\nIt is a fatally flawed perspective. why? because what we do as social animals involves trust if all we have is mistrust then offence will become the rule... violence both covert and overt will be the norm... we seem to go here (hobbes nasty brutish and short life) perspective every century or so might be that the children of prosperous peaceful times take it as an entitlement and take more than give...\nAll I seem to have is questions.\nJust to say there are situations where being mean is appropriate like when an asshole is acting out... protecting those who are unable to protect themselves...\nBe mean to discourage assholes dont be mean to make brownie points with a group of assholes....",
">\n\nI’m happy and I trust my friends so guess I disagree with you"
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You get friends by making jokes and teasing people, not things they are super self conscious about...just funny or unique things you notice about them. | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends.",
">\n\nNo, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things.",
">\n\nIt's the thing, a true friend isn't afraid to call you on your bullshit. I agree, but you can still be kind sometimes too, there is a time and place for both.",
">\n\nIt's a healthy dose of standing your ground and calling your friends out to better them, while also supporting their decisions regardless of your advice. Just being friendly or combative with people is just one layer of depth out of hundreds.",
">\n\nNor do bullets make friends... I am not sure your outlook is healthy to you and those that interact with you.\nBeing nice is basically an example of showing weakness or trusting the other to either be trustworthy or show the quality of their character.\nyou sound like an adherent of the 48 rules of power.\nIt is a fatally flawed perspective. why? because what we do as social animals involves trust if all we have is mistrust then offence will become the rule... violence both covert and overt will be the norm... we seem to go here (hobbes nasty brutish and short life) perspective every century or so might be that the children of prosperous peaceful times take it as an entitlement and take more than give...\nAll I seem to have is questions.\nJust to say there are situations where being mean is appropriate like when an asshole is acting out... protecting those who are unable to protect themselves...\nBe mean to discourage assholes dont be mean to make brownie points with a group of assholes....",
">\n\nI’m happy and I trust my friends so guess I disagree with you",
">\n\nRight on...... dont forget your safe word... :)"
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Yes you do. | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends.",
">\n\nNo, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things.",
">\n\nIt's the thing, a true friend isn't afraid to call you on your bullshit. I agree, but you can still be kind sometimes too, there is a time and place for both.",
">\n\nIt's a healthy dose of standing your ground and calling your friends out to better them, while also supporting their decisions regardless of your advice. Just being friendly or combative with people is just one layer of depth out of hundreds.",
">\n\nNor do bullets make friends... I am not sure your outlook is healthy to you and those that interact with you.\nBeing nice is basically an example of showing weakness or trusting the other to either be trustworthy or show the quality of their character.\nyou sound like an adherent of the 48 rules of power.\nIt is a fatally flawed perspective. why? because what we do as social animals involves trust if all we have is mistrust then offence will become the rule... violence both covert and overt will be the norm... we seem to go here (hobbes nasty brutish and short life) perspective every century or so might be that the children of prosperous peaceful times take it as an entitlement and take more than give...\nAll I seem to have is questions.\nJust to say there are situations where being mean is appropriate like when an asshole is acting out... protecting those who are unable to protect themselves...\nBe mean to discourage assholes dont be mean to make brownie points with a group of assholes....",
">\n\nI’m happy and I trust my friends so guess I disagree with you",
">\n\nRight on...... dont forget your safe word... :)",
">\n\nYou get friends by making jokes and teasing people, not things they are super self conscious about...just funny or unique things you notice about them."
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This ready like an edgy 14 year old wrote it
You just can't handle my dark humor | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends.",
">\n\nNo, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things.",
">\n\nIt's the thing, a true friend isn't afraid to call you on your bullshit. I agree, but you can still be kind sometimes too, there is a time and place for both.",
">\n\nIt's a healthy dose of standing your ground and calling your friends out to better them, while also supporting their decisions regardless of your advice. Just being friendly or combative with people is just one layer of depth out of hundreds.",
">\n\nNor do bullets make friends... I am not sure your outlook is healthy to you and those that interact with you.\nBeing nice is basically an example of showing weakness or trusting the other to either be trustworthy or show the quality of their character.\nyou sound like an adherent of the 48 rules of power.\nIt is a fatally flawed perspective. why? because what we do as social animals involves trust if all we have is mistrust then offence will become the rule... violence both covert and overt will be the norm... we seem to go here (hobbes nasty brutish and short life) perspective every century or so might be that the children of prosperous peaceful times take it as an entitlement and take more than give...\nAll I seem to have is questions.\nJust to say there are situations where being mean is appropriate like when an asshole is acting out... protecting those who are unable to protect themselves...\nBe mean to discourage assholes dont be mean to make brownie points with a group of assholes....",
">\n\nI’m happy and I trust my friends so guess I disagree with you",
">\n\nRight on...... dont forget your safe word... :)",
">\n\nYou get friends by making jokes and teasing people, not things they are super self conscious about...just funny or unique things you notice about them.",
">\n\nYes you do."
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Is your dark humor kindness?? | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends.",
">\n\nNo, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things.",
">\n\nIt's the thing, a true friend isn't afraid to call you on your bullshit. I agree, but you can still be kind sometimes too, there is a time and place for both.",
">\n\nIt's a healthy dose of standing your ground and calling your friends out to better them, while also supporting their decisions regardless of your advice. Just being friendly or combative with people is just one layer of depth out of hundreds.",
">\n\nNor do bullets make friends... I am not sure your outlook is healthy to you and those that interact with you.\nBeing nice is basically an example of showing weakness or trusting the other to either be trustworthy or show the quality of their character.\nyou sound like an adherent of the 48 rules of power.\nIt is a fatally flawed perspective. why? because what we do as social animals involves trust if all we have is mistrust then offence will become the rule... violence both covert and overt will be the norm... we seem to go here (hobbes nasty brutish and short life) perspective every century or so might be that the children of prosperous peaceful times take it as an entitlement and take more than give...\nAll I seem to have is questions.\nJust to say there are situations where being mean is appropriate like when an asshole is acting out... protecting those who are unable to protect themselves...\nBe mean to discourage assholes dont be mean to make brownie points with a group of assholes....",
">\n\nI’m happy and I trust my friends so guess I disagree with you",
">\n\nRight on...... dont forget your safe word... :)",
">\n\nYou get friends by making jokes and teasing people, not things they are super self conscious about...just funny or unique things you notice about them.",
">\n\nYes you do.",
">\n\nThis ready like an edgy 14 year old wrote it\nYou just can't handle my dark humor"
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I can absolutely see why you are known for saying stupid things. | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends.",
">\n\nNo, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things.",
">\n\nIt's the thing, a true friend isn't afraid to call you on your bullshit. I agree, but you can still be kind sometimes too, there is a time and place for both.",
">\n\nIt's a healthy dose of standing your ground and calling your friends out to better them, while also supporting their decisions regardless of your advice. Just being friendly or combative with people is just one layer of depth out of hundreds.",
">\n\nNor do bullets make friends... I am not sure your outlook is healthy to you and those that interact with you.\nBeing nice is basically an example of showing weakness or trusting the other to either be trustworthy or show the quality of their character.\nyou sound like an adherent of the 48 rules of power.\nIt is a fatally flawed perspective. why? because what we do as social animals involves trust if all we have is mistrust then offence will become the rule... violence both covert and overt will be the norm... we seem to go here (hobbes nasty brutish and short life) perspective every century or so might be that the children of prosperous peaceful times take it as an entitlement and take more than give...\nAll I seem to have is questions.\nJust to say there are situations where being mean is appropriate like when an asshole is acting out... protecting those who are unable to protect themselves...\nBe mean to discourage assholes dont be mean to make brownie points with a group of assholes....",
">\n\nI’m happy and I trust my friends so guess I disagree with you",
">\n\nRight on...... dont forget your safe word... :)",
">\n\nYou get friends by making jokes and teasing people, not things they are super self conscious about...just funny or unique things you notice about them.",
">\n\nYes you do.",
">\n\nThis ready like an edgy 14 year old wrote it\nYou just can't handle my dark humor",
">\n\nIs your dark humor kindness??"
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I take it you disagree! No problem | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends.",
">\n\nNo, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things.",
">\n\nIt's the thing, a true friend isn't afraid to call you on your bullshit. I agree, but you can still be kind sometimes too, there is a time and place for both.",
">\n\nIt's a healthy dose of standing your ground and calling your friends out to better them, while also supporting their decisions regardless of your advice. Just being friendly or combative with people is just one layer of depth out of hundreds.",
">\n\nNor do bullets make friends... I am not sure your outlook is healthy to you and those that interact with you.\nBeing nice is basically an example of showing weakness or trusting the other to either be trustworthy or show the quality of their character.\nyou sound like an adherent of the 48 rules of power.\nIt is a fatally flawed perspective. why? because what we do as social animals involves trust if all we have is mistrust then offence will become the rule... violence both covert and overt will be the norm... we seem to go here (hobbes nasty brutish and short life) perspective every century or so might be that the children of prosperous peaceful times take it as an entitlement and take more than give...\nAll I seem to have is questions.\nJust to say there are situations where being mean is appropriate like when an asshole is acting out... protecting those who are unable to protect themselves...\nBe mean to discourage assholes dont be mean to make brownie points with a group of assholes....",
">\n\nI’m happy and I trust my friends so guess I disagree with you",
">\n\nRight on...... dont forget your safe word... :)",
">\n\nYou get friends by making jokes and teasing people, not things they are super self conscious about...just funny or unique things you notice about them.",
">\n\nYes you do.",
">\n\nThis ready like an edgy 14 year old wrote it\nYou just can't handle my dark humor",
">\n\nIs your dark humor kindness??",
">\n\nI can absolutely see why you are known for saying stupid things."
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I didn't say that. I don't think you clearly articulated your point at all. Your reasoning for your opinion lacked any intellect or deep thought. I don't have the capacity to disagree with something that doesn't make sense to me. | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends.",
">\n\nNo, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things.",
">\n\nIt's the thing, a true friend isn't afraid to call you on your bullshit. I agree, but you can still be kind sometimes too, there is a time and place for both.",
">\n\nIt's a healthy dose of standing your ground and calling your friends out to better them, while also supporting their decisions regardless of your advice. Just being friendly or combative with people is just one layer of depth out of hundreds.",
">\n\nNor do bullets make friends... I am not sure your outlook is healthy to you and those that interact with you.\nBeing nice is basically an example of showing weakness or trusting the other to either be trustworthy or show the quality of their character.\nyou sound like an adherent of the 48 rules of power.\nIt is a fatally flawed perspective. why? because what we do as social animals involves trust if all we have is mistrust then offence will become the rule... violence both covert and overt will be the norm... we seem to go here (hobbes nasty brutish and short life) perspective every century or so might be that the children of prosperous peaceful times take it as an entitlement and take more than give...\nAll I seem to have is questions.\nJust to say there are situations where being mean is appropriate like when an asshole is acting out... protecting those who are unable to protect themselves...\nBe mean to discourage assholes dont be mean to make brownie points with a group of assholes....",
">\n\nI’m happy and I trust my friends so guess I disagree with you",
">\n\nRight on...... dont forget your safe word... :)",
">\n\nYou get friends by making jokes and teasing people, not things they are super self conscious about...just funny or unique things you notice about them.",
">\n\nYes you do.",
">\n\nThis ready like an edgy 14 year old wrote it\nYou just can't handle my dark humor",
">\n\nIs your dark humor kindness??",
">\n\nI can absolutely see why you are known for saying stupid things.",
">\n\nI take it you disagree! No problem"
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So you just lack comprehension. That’s fine I don’t feel like going in depth, I don’t know what else to add. | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends.",
">\n\nNo, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things.",
">\n\nIt's the thing, a true friend isn't afraid to call you on your bullshit. I agree, but you can still be kind sometimes too, there is a time and place for both.",
">\n\nIt's a healthy dose of standing your ground and calling your friends out to better them, while also supporting their decisions regardless of your advice. Just being friendly or combative with people is just one layer of depth out of hundreds.",
">\n\nNor do bullets make friends... I am not sure your outlook is healthy to you and those that interact with you.\nBeing nice is basically an example of showing weakness or trusting the other to either be trustworthy or show the quality of their character.\nyou sound like an adherent of the 48 rules of power.\nIt is a fatally flawed perspective. why? because what we do as social animals involves trust if all we have is mistrust then offence will become the rule... violence both covert and overt will be the norm... we seem to go here (hobbes nasty brutish and short life) perspective every century or so might be that the children of prosperous peaceful times take it as an entitlement and take more than give...\nAll I seem to have is questions.\nJust to say there are situations where being mean is appropriate like when an asshole is acting out... protecting those who are unable to protect themselves...\nBe mean to discourage assholes dont be mean to make brownie points with a group of assholes....",
">\n\nI’m happy and I trust my friends so guess I disagree with you",
">\n\nRight on...... dont forget your safe word... :)",
">\n\nYou get friends by making jokes and teasing people, not things they are super self conscious about...just funny or unique things you notice about them.",
">\n\nYes you do.",
">\n\nThis ready like an edgy 14 year old wrote it\nYou just can't handle my dark humor",
">\n\nIs your dark humor kindness??",
">\n\nI can absolutely see why you are known for saying stupid things.",
">\n\nI take it you disagree! No problem",
">\n\nI didn't say that. I don't think you clearly articulated your point at all. Your reasoning for your opinion lacked any intellect or deep thought. I don't have the capacity to disagree with something that doesn't make sense to me."
] |
>
No. You're wrong. Again. | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends.",
">\n\nNo, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things.",
">\n\nIt's the thing, a true friend isn't afraid to call you on your bullshit. I agree, but you can still be kind sometimes too, there is a time and place for both.",
">\n\nIt's a healthy dose of standing your ground and calling your friends out to better them, while also supporting their decisions regardless of your advice. Just being friendly or combative with people is just one layer of depth out of hundreds.",
">\n\nNor do bullets make friends... I am not sure your outlook is healthy to you and those that interact with you.\nBeing nice is basically an example of showing weakness or trusting the other to either be trustworthy or show the quality of their character.\nyou sound like an adherent of the 48 rules of power.\nIt is a fatally flawed perspective. why? because what we do as social animals involves trust if all we have is mistrust then offence will become the rule... violence both covert and overt will be the norm... we seem to go here (hobbes nasty brutish and short life) perspective every century or so might be that the children of prosperous peaceful times take it as an entitlement and take more than give...\nAll I seem to have is questions.\nJust to say there are situations where being mean is appropriate like when an asshole is acting out... protecting those who are unable to protect themselves...\nBe mean to discourage assholes dont be mean to make brownie points with a group of assholes....",
">\n\nI’m happy and I trust my friends so guess I disagree with you",
">\n\nRight on...... dont forget your safe word... :)",
">\n\nYou get friends by making jokes and teasing people, not things they are super self conscious about...just funny or unique things you notice about them.",
">\n\nYes you do.",
">\n\nThis ready like an edgy 14 year old wrote it\nYou just can't handle my dark humor",
">\n\nIs your dark humor kindness??",
">\n\nI can absolutely see why you are known for saying stupid things.",
">\n\nI take it you disagree! No problem",
">\n\nI didn't say that. I don't think you clearly articulated your point at all. Your reasoning for your opinion lacked any intellect or deep thought. I don't have the capacity to disagree with something that doesn't make sense to me.",
">\n\nSo you just lack comprehension. That’s fine I don’t feel like going in depth, I don’t know what else to add."
] |
>
Idk what to tell you bud | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends.",
">\n\nNo, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things.",
">\n\nIt's the thing, a true friend isn't afraid to call you on your bullshit. I agree, but you can still be kind sometimes too, there is a time and place for both.",
">\n\nIt's a healthy dose of standing your ground and calling your friends out to better them, while also supporting their decisions regardless of your advice. Just being friendly or combative with people is just one layer of depth out of hundreds.",
">\n\nNor do bullets make friends... I am not sure your outlook is healthy to you and those that interact with you.\nBeing nice is basically an example of showing weakness or trusting the other to either be trustworthy or show the quality of their character.\nyou sound like an adherent of the 48 rules of power.\nIt is a fatally flawed perspective. why? because what we do as social animals involves trust if all we have is mistrust then offence will become the rule... violence both covert and overt will be the norm... we seem to go here (hobbes nasty brutish and short life) perspective every century or so might be that the children of prosperous peaceful times take it as an entitlement and take more than give...\nAll I seem to have is questions.\nJust to say there are situations where being mean is appropriate like when an asshole is acting out... protecting those who are unable to protect themselves...\nBe mean to discourage assholes dont be mean to make brownie points with a group of assholes....",
">\n\nI’m happy and I trust my friends so guess I disagree with you",
">\n\nRight on...... dont forget your safe word... :)",
">\n\nYou get friends by making jokes and teasing people, not things they are super self conscious about...just funny or unique things you notice about them.",
">\n\nYes you do.",
">\n\nThis ready like an edgy 14 year old wrote it\nYou just can't handle my dark humor",
">\n\nIs your dark humor kindness??",
">\n\nI can absolutely see why you are known for saying stupid things.",
">\n\nI take it you disagree! No problem",
">\n\nI didn't say that. I don't think you clearly articulated your point at all. Your reasoning for your opinion lacked any intellect or deep thought. I don't have the capacity to disagree with something that doesn't make sense to me.",
">\n\nSo you just lack comprehension. That’s fine I don’t feel like going in depth, I don’t know what else to add.",
">\n\nNo. You're wrong. Again."
] |
>
You're kind of right. I don't consider anyone a close friend who hasn't said something to me that I could use to blackmail them. Pleasantries are surface-level interactions and having the trust and understanding with someone to say something not stereotypically "nice" is what differentiates surface level acquaintances from close friends. | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends.",
">\n\nNo, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things.",
">\n\nIt's the thing, a true friend isn't afraid to call you on your bullshit. I agree, but you can still be kind sometimes too, there is a time and place for both.",
">\n\nIt's a healthy dose of standing your ground and calling your friends out to better them, while also supporting their decisions regardless of your advice. Just being friendly or combative with people is just one layer of depth out of hundreds.",
">\n\nNor do bullets make friends... I am not sure your outlook is healthy to you and those that interact with you.\nBeing nice is basically an example of showing weakness or trusting the other to either be trustworthy or show the quality of their character.\nyou sound like an adherent of the 48 rules of power.\nIt is a fatally flawed perspective. why? because what we do as social animals involves trust if all we have is mistrust then offence will become the rule... violence both covert and overt will be the norm... we seem to go here (hobbes nasty brutish and short life) perspective every century or so might be that the children of prosperous peaceful times take it as an entitlement and take more than give...\nAll I seem to have is questions.\nJust to say there are situations where being mean is appropriate like when an asshole is acting out... protecting those who are unable to protect themselves...\nBe mean to discourage assholes dont be mean to make brownie points with a group of assholes....",
">\n\nI’m happy and I trust my friends so guess I disagree with you",
">\n\nRight on...... dont forget your safe word... :)",
">\n\nYou get friends by making jokes and teasing people, not things they are super self conscious about...just funny or unique things you notice about them.",
">\n\nYes you do.",
">\n\nThis ready like an edgy 14 year old wrote it\nYou just can't handle my dark humor",
">\n\nIs your dark humor kindness??",
">\n\nI can absolutely see why you are known for saying stupid things.",
">\n\nI take it you disagree! No problem",
">\n\nI didn't say that. I don't think you clearly articulated your point at all. Your reasoning for your opinion lacked any intellect or deep thought. I don't have the capacity to disagree with something that doesn't make sense to me.",
">\n\nSo you just lack comprehension. That’s fine I don’t feel like going in depth, I don’t know what else to add.",
">\n\nNo. You're wrong. Again.",
">\n\nIdk what to tell you bud"
] |
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if you are nice to people you will make friends with nice people.
if you are mean to people you will make friends with mean people. | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends.",
">\n\nNo, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things.",
">\n\nIt's the thing, a true friend isn't afraid to call you on your bullshit. I agree, but you can still be kind sometimes too, there is a time and place for both.",
">\n\nIt's a healthy dose of standing your ground and calling your friends out to better them, while also supporting their decisions regardless of your advice. Just being friendly or combative with people is just one layer of depth out of hundreds.",
">\n\nNor do bullets make friends... I am not sure your outlook is healthy to you and those that interact with you.\nBeing nice is basically an example of showing weakness or trusting the other to either be trustworthy or show the quality of their character.\nyou sound like an adherent of the 48 rules of power.\nIt is a fatally flawed perspective. why? because what we do as social animals involves trust if all we have is mistrust then offence will become the rule... violence both covert and overt will be the norm... we seem to go here (hobbes nasty brutish and short life) perspective every century or so might be that the children of prosperous peaceful times take it as an entitlement and take more than give...\nAll I seem to have is questions.\nJust to say there are situations where being mean is appropriate like when an asshole is acting out... protecting those who are unable to protect themselves...\nBe mean to discourage assholes dont be mean to make brownie points with a group of assholes....",
">\n\nI’m happy and I trust my friends so guess I disagree with you",
">\n\nRight on...... dont forget your safe word... :)",
">\n\nYou get friends by making jokes and teasing people, not things they are super self conscious about...just funny or unique things you notice about them.",
">\n\nYes you do.",
">\n\nThis ready like an edgy 14 year old wrote it\nYou just can't handle my dark humor",
">\n\nIs your dark humor kindness??",
">\n\nI can absolutely see why you are known for saying stupid things.",
">\n\nI take it you disagree! No problem",
">\n\nI didn't say that. I don't think you clearly articulated your point at all. Your reasoning for your opinion lacked any intellect or deep thought. I don't have the capacity to disagree with something that doesn't make sense to me.",
">\n\nSo you just lack comprehension. That’s fine I don’t feel like going in depth, I don’t know what else to add.",
">\n\nNo. You're wrong. Again.",
">\n\nIdk what to tell you bud",
">\n\nYou're kind of right. I don't consider anyone a close friend who hasn't said something to me that I could use to blackmail them. Pleasantries are surface-level interactions and having the trust and understanding with someone to say something not stereotypically \"nice\" is what differentiates surface level acquaintances from close friends."
] |
>
I guess that’s true lol | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends.",
">\n\nNo, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things.",
">\n\nIt's the thing, a true friend isn't afraid to call you on your bullshit. I agree, but you can still be kind sometimes too, there is a time and place for both.",
">\n\nIt's a healthy dose of standing your ground and calling your friends out to better them, while also supporting their decisions regardless of your advice. Just being friendly or combative with people is just one layer of depth out of hundreds.",
">\n\nNor do bullets make friends... I am not sure your outlook is healthy to you and those that interact with you.\nBeing nice is basically an example of showing weakness or trusting the other to either be trustworthy or show the quality of their character.\nyou sound like an adherent of the 48 rules of power.\nIt is a fatally flawed perspective. why? because what we do as social animals involves trust if all we have is mistrust then offence will become the rule... violence both covert and overt will be the norm... we seem to go here (hobbes nasty brutish and short life) perspective every century or so might be that the children of prosperous peaceful times take it as an entitlement and take more than give...\nAll I seem to have is questions.\nJust to say there are situations where being mean is appropriate like when an asshole is acting out... protecting those who are unable to protect themselves...\nBe mean to discourage assholes dont be mean to make brownie points with a group of assholes....",
">\n\nI’m happy and I trust my friends so guess I disagree with you",
">\n\nRight on...... dont forget your safe word... :)",
">\n\nYou get friends by making jokes and teasing people, not things they are super self conscious about...just funny or unique things you notice about them.",
">\n\nYes you do.",
">\n\nThis ready like an edgy 14 year old wrote it\nYou just can't handle my dark humor",
">\n\nIs your dark humor kindness??",
">\n\nI can absolutely see why you are known for saying stupid things.",
">\n\nI take it you disagree! No problem",
">\n\nI didn't say that. I don't think you clearly articulated your point at all. Your reasoning for your opinion lacked any intellect or deep thought. I don't have the capacity to disagree with something that doesn't make sense to me.",
">\n\nSo you just lack comprehension. That’s fine I don’t feel like going in depth, I don’t know what else to add.",
">\n\nNo. You're wrong. Again.",
">\n\nIdk what to tell you bud",
">\n\nYou're kind of right. I don't consider anyone a close friend who hasn't said something to me that I could use to blackmail them. Pleasantries are surface-level interactions and having the trust and understanding with someone to say something not stereotypically \"nice\" is what differentiates surface level acquaintances from close friends.",
">\n\nif you are nice to people you will make friends with nice people.\nif you are mean to people you will make friends with mean people."
] |
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Either people didn't understand or are too old because I agree with this @@. Do you mean being sarcastic? | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends.",
">\n\nNo, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things.",
">\n\nIt's the thing, a true friend isn't afraid to call you on your bullshit. I agree, but you can still be kind sometimes too, there is a time and place for both.",
">\n\nIt's a healthy dose of standing your ground and calling your friends out to better them, while also supporting their decisions regardless of your advice. Just being friendly or combative with people is just one layer of depth out of hundreds.",
">\n\nNor do bullets make friends... I am not sure your outlook is healthy to you and those that interact with you.\nBeing nice is basically an example of showing weakness or trusting the other to either be trustworthy or show the quality of their character.\nyou sound like an adherent of the 48 rules of power.\nIt is a fatally flawed perspective. why? because what we do as social animals involves trust if all we have is mistrust then offence will become the rule... violence both covert and overt will be the norm... we seem to go here (hobbes nasty brutish and short life) perspective every century or so might be that the children of prosperous peaceful times take it as an entitlement and take more than give...\nAll I seem to have is questions.\nJust to say there are situations where being mean is appropriate like when an asshole is acting out... protecting those who are unable to protect themselves...\nBe mean to discourage assholes dont be mean to make brownie points with a group of assholes....",
">\n\nI’m happy and I trust my friends so guess I disagree with you",
">\n\nRight on...... dont forget your safe word... :)",
">\n\nYou get friends by making jokes and teasing people, not things they are super self conscious about...just funny or unique things you notice about them.",
">\n\nYes you do.",
">\n\nThis ready like an edgy 14 year old wrote it\nYou just can't handle my dark humor",
">\n\nIs your dark humor kindness??",
">\n\nI can absolutely see why you are known for saying stupid things.",
">\n\nI take it you disagree! No problem",
">\n\nI didn't say that. I don't think you clearly articulated your point at all. Your reasoning for your opinion lacked any intellect or deep thought. I don't have the capacity to disagree with something that doesn't make sense to me.",
">\n\nSo you just lack comprehension. That’s fine I don’t feel like going in depth, I don’t know what else to add.",
">\n\nNo. You're wrong. Again.",
">\n\nIdk what to tell you bud",
">\n\nYou're kind of right. I don't consider anyone a close friend who hasn't said something to me that I could use to blackmail them. Pleasantries are surface-level interactions and having the trust and understanding with someone to say something not stereotypically \"nice\" is what differentiates surface level acquaintances from close friends.",
">\n\nif you are nice to people you will make friends with nice people.\nif you are mean to people you will make friends with mean people.",
">\n\nI guess that’s true lol"
] |
> | [
"I think what you're describing isn't people being genuinely nice, it's a forced 'niceness' stemming from a fear of confrontation. If you compromise you own honest reactions to things in order to be 'nice' too much, this isn't very genuine and people can see through it.",
">\n\nI do. What the fuck are you talking about? \n\nI’m known for saying things that other people find stupid\n\nI wonder why.",
">\n\nOh be nice",
">\n\nYea, you don't want to be friends with this idiot!",
">\n\nIdiots are people too, I think",
">\n\nYou make friends by being yourself and finding people that like who you are. I think what you are really trying to say is that faking being overly nice to make friends is not worthwhile or effective. Or maybe you just really like being mean to people, idk.",
">\n\nLet me get this straight: you'd rather people be mean to you in order to express that they want to be your friend?\nYou can't shit talk your friends until you're friends.",
">\n\nNo, OP, this is a fact. If you are rude to people, they will want to be your friend. It's the nature of things.",
">\n\nIt's the thing, a true friend isn't afraid to call you on your bullshit. I agree, but you can still be kind sometimes too, there is a time and place for both.",
">\n\nIt's a healthy dose of standing your ground and calling your friends out to better them, while also supporting their decisions regardless of your advice. Just being friendly or combative with people is just one layer of depth out of hundreds.",
">\n\nNor do bullets make friends... I am not sure your outlook is healthy to you and those that interact with you.\nBeing nice is basically an example of showing weakness or trusting the other to either be trustworthy or show the quality of their character.\nyou sound like an adherent of the 48 rules of power.\nIt is a fatally flawed perspective. why? because what we do as social animals involves trust if all we have is mistrust then offence will become the rule... violence both covert and overt will be the norm... we seem to go here (hobbes nasty brutish and short life) perspective every century or so might be that the children of prosperous peaceful times take it as an entitlement and take more than give...\nAll I seem to have is questions.\nJust to say there are situations where being mean is appropriate like when an asshole is acting out... protecting those who are unable to protect themselves...\nBe mean to discourage assholes dont be mean to make brownie points with a group of assholes....",
">\n\nI’m happy and I trust my friends so guess I disagree with you",
">\n\nRight on...... dont forget your safe word... :)",
">\n\nYou get friends by making jokes and teasing people, not things they are super self conscious about...just funny or unique things you notice about them.",
">\n\nYes you do.",
">\n\nThis ready like an edgy 14 year old wrote it\nYou just can't handle my dark humor",
">\n\nIs your dark humor kindness??",
">\n\nI can absolutely see why you are known for saying stupid things.",
">\n\nI take it you disagree! No problem",
">\n\nI didn't say that. I don't think you clearly articulated your point at all. Your reasoning for your opinion lacked any intellect or deep thought. I don't have the capacity to disagree with something that doesn't make sense to me.",
">\n\nSo you just lack comprehension. That’s fine I don’t feel like going in depth, I don’t know what else to add.",
">\n\nNo. You're wrong. Again.",
">\n\nIdk what to tell you bud",
">\n\nYou're kind of right. I don't consider anyone a close friend who hasn't said something to me that I could use to blackmail them. Pleasantries are surface-level interactions and having the trust and understanding with someone to say something not stereotypically \"nice\" is what differentiates surface level acquaintances from close friends.",
">\n\nif you are nice to people you will make friends with nice people.\nif you are mean to people you will make friends with mean people.",
">\n\nI guess that’s true lol",
">\n\nEither people didn't understand or are too old because I agree with this @@. Do you mean being sarcastic?"
] |
Now that's a headline | [] |
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My favorite one is still "German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer". | [
"Now that's a headline"
] |
>
What kind of monster throws a puppy at people?
I don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me! | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\"."
] |
>
Wow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed. | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!"
] |
>
Coast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed."
] |
>
Coast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service. | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol"
] |
>
Not a bad rap amongst civillians.
If you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.
Thats all. | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service."
] |
>
Among military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes. | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all."
] |
>
Ya but this is more of an odd one out kinda thing.
Collectively, they would unite and gang up on the CG. | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all.",
">\n\nAmong military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes."
] |
>
This guy militaries | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all.",
">\n\nAmong military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes.",
">\n\nYa but this is more of an odd one out kinda thing.\nCollectively, they would unite and gang up on the CG."
] |
>
Real life Mad Lib headlines are the best. | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all.",
">\n\nAmong military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes.",
">\n\nYa but this is more of an odd one out kinda thing.\nCollectively, they would unite and gang up on the CG.",
">\n\nThis guy militaries"
] |
>
The dead fish is never explained. | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all.",
">\n\nAmong military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes.",
">\n\nYa but this is more of an odd one out kinda thing.\nCollectively, they would unite and gang up on the CG.",
">\n\nThis guy militaries",
">\n\nReal life Mad Lib headlines are the best."
] |
>
I read the article specifically to get the dirt on the fish incident. No such luck. | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all.",
">\n\nAmong military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes.",
">\n\nYa but this is more of an odd one out kinda thing.\nCollectively, they would unite and gang up on the CG.",
">\n\nThis guy militaries",
">\n\nReal life Mad Lib headlines are the best.",
">\n\nThe dead fish is never explained."
] |
>
Its really going to bother me. I'm wracking my brain trying to remember a fish incident from the movie. Its mentioned that he went fishing with someone in Astoria, so that's where the fish comes from, I guess. But why did he leave it on the porch, take video of it, finger the surveillance cam, then dance around the yard? I need to know what he posted on social media, maybe that will explain it. | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all.",
">\n\nAmong military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes.",
">\n\nYa but this is more of an odd one out kinda thing.\nCollectively, they would unite and gang up on the CG.",
">\n\nThis guy militaries",
">\n\nReal life Mad Lib headlines are the best.",
">\n\nThe dead fish is never explained.",
">\n\nI read the article specifically to get the dirt on the fish incident. No such luck."
] |
>
I have many questions | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all.",
">\n\nAmong military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes.",
">\n\nYa but this is more of an odd one out kinda thing.\nCollectively, they would unite and gang up on the CG.",
">\n\nThis guy militaries",
">\n\nReal life Mad Lib headlines are the best.",
">\n\nThe dead fish is never explained.",
">\n\nI read the article specifically to get the dirt on the fish incident. No such luck.",
">\n\nIts really going to bother me. I'm wracking my brain trying to remember a fish incident from the movie. Its mentioned that he went fishing with someone in Astoria, so that's where the fish comes from, I guess. But why did he leave it on the porch, take video of it, finger the surveillance cam, then dance around the yard? I need to know what he posted on social media, maybe that will explain it."
] |
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