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The dead fish thing is likely the least of his problems. He stole a yacht.
Astoria police said Labonte was wanted on allegations of theft, endangering another person, unauthorized use of a vehicle, and criminal mischief. Astoria Police Chief Stacy Kelly said some of the allegations were from preexisting cases in British Columbia, according to the Associated Press. | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all.",
">\n\nAmong military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes.",
">\n\nYa but this is more of an odd one out kinda thing.\nCollectively, they would unite and gang up on the CG.",
">\n\nThis guy militaries",
">\n\nReal life Mad Lib headlines are the best.",
">\n\nThe dead fish is never explained.",
">\n\nI read the article specifically to get the dirt on the fish incident. No such luck.",
">\n\nIts really going to bother me. I'm wracking my brain trying to remember a fish incident from the movie. Its mentioned that he went fishing with someone in Astoria, so that's where the fish comes from, I guess. But why did he leave it on the porch, take video of it, finger the surveillance cam, then dance around the yard? I need to know what he posted on social media, maybe that will explain it.",
">\n\nI have many questions"
] |
>
So much going on haha. Congrats to the Branch on his graduation and badass rescue, his career is going to be legendary. Those guys have balls of steel.
How did they release him from the hospital without anyone identifying him? They released him and had to chase him down and found him at a warming center some miles away. | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all.",
">\n\nAmong military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes.",
">\n\nYa but this is more of an odd one out kinda thing.\nCollectively, they would unite and gang up on the CG.",
">\n\nThis guy militaries",
">\n\nReal life Mad Lib headlines are the best.",
">\n\nThe dead fish is never explained.",
">\n\nI read the article specifically to get the dirt on the fish incident. No such luck.",
">\n\nIts really going to bother me. I'm wracking my brain trying to remember a fish incident from the movie. Its mentioned that he went fishing with someone in Astoria, so that's where the fish comes from, I guess. But why did he leave it on the porch, take video of it, finger the surveillance cam, then dance around the yard? I need to know what he posted on social media, maybe that will explain it.",
">\n\nI have many questions",
">\n\nThe dead fish thing is likely the least of his problems. He stole a yacht. \n\nAstoria police said Labonte was wanted on allegations of theft, endangering another person, unauthorized use of a vehicle, and criminal mischief. Astoria Police Chief Stacy Kelly said some of the allegations were from preexisting cases in British Columbia, according to the Associated Press."
] |
>
I had to double check what sub this is. Thought it was r/BrandNewSentence . I'm not even joking. | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all.",
">\n\nAmong military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes.",
">\n\nYa but this is more of an odd one out kinda thing.\nCollectively, they would unite and gang up on the CG.",
">\n\nThis guy militaries",
">\n\nReal life Mad Lib headlines are the best.",
">\n\nThe dead fish is never explained.",
">\n\nI read the article specifically to get the dirt on the fish incident. No such luck.",
">\n\nIts really going to bother me. I'm wracking my brain trying to remember a fish incident from the movie. Its mentioned that he went fishing with someone in Astoria, so that's where the fish comes from, I guess. But why did he leave it on the porch, take video of it, finger the surveillance cam, then dance around the yard? I need to know what he posted on social media, maybe that will explain it.",
">\n\nI have many questions",
">\n\nThe dead fish thing is likely the least of his problems. He stole a yacht. \n\nAstoria police said Labonte was wanted on allegations of theft, endangering another person, unauthorized use of a vehicle, and criminal mischief. Astoria Police Chief Stacy Kelly said some of the allegations were from preexisting cases in British Columbia, according to the Associated Press.",
">\n\nSo much going on haha. Congrats to the Branch on his graduation and badass rescue, his career is going to be legendary. Those guys have balls of steel.\nHow did they release him from the hospital without anyone identifying him? They released him and had to chase him down and found him at a warming center some miles away."
] |
>
When I see headlines like this… I think the world has gone mad. | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all.",
">\n\nAmong military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes.",
">\n\nYa but this is more of an odd one out kinda thing.\nCollectively, they would unite and gang up on the CG.",
">\n\nThis guy militaries",
">\n\nReal life Mad Lib headlines are the best.",
">\n\nThe dead fish is never explained.",
">\n\nI read the article specifically to get the dirt on the fish incident. No such luck.",
">\n\nIts really going to bother me. I'm wracking my brain trying to remember a fish incident from the movie. Its mentioned that he went fishing with someone in Astoria, so that's where the fish comes from, I guess. But why did he leave it on the porch, take video of it, finger the surveillance cam, then dance around the yard? I need to know what he posted on social media, maybe that will explain it.",
">\n\nI have many questions",
">\n\nThe dead fish thing is likely the least of his problems. He stole a yacht. \n\nAstoria police said Labonte was wanted on allegations of theft, endangering another person, unauthorized use of a vehicle, and criminal mischief. Astoria Police Chief Stacy Kelly said some of the allegations were from preexisting cases in British Columbia, according to the Associated Press.",
">\n\nSo much going on haha. Congrats to the Branch on his graduation and badass rescue, his career is going to be legendary. Those guys have balls of steel.\nHow did they release him from the hospital without anyone identifying him? They released him and had to chase him down and found him at a warming center some miles away.",
">\n\nI had to double check what sub this is. Thought it was r/BrandNewSentence . I'm not even joking."
] |
>
Welcome to Reality, we're so glad to meet you. Have some tea? The sugar is over by the Dormouse. | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all.",
">\n\nAmong military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes.",
">\n\nYa but this is more of an odd one out kinda thing.\nCollectively, they would unite and gang up on the CG.",
">\n\nThis guy militaries",
">\n\nReal life Mad Lib headlines are the best.",
">\n\nThe dead fish is never explained.",
">\n\nI read the article specifically to get the dirt on the fish incident. No such luck.",
">\n\nIts really going to bother me. I'm wracking my brain trying to remember a fish incident from the movie. Its mentioned that he went fishing with someone in Astoria, so that's where the fish comes from, I guess. But why did he leave it on the porch, take video of it, finger the surveillance cam, then dance around the yard? I need to know what he posted on social media, maybe that will explain it.",
">\n\nI have many questions",
">\n\nThe dead fish thing is likely the least of his problems. He stole a yacht. \n\nAstoria police said Labonte was wanted on allegations of theft, endangering another person, unauthorized use of a vehicle, and criminal mischief. Astoria Police Chief Stacy Kelly said some of the allegations were from preexisting cases in British Columbia, according to the Associated Press.",
">\n\nSo much going on haha. Congrats to the Branch on his graduation and badass rescue, his career is going to be legendary. Those guys have balls of steel.\nHow did they release him from the hospital without anyone identifying him? They released him and had to chase him down and found him at a warming center some miles away.",
">\n\nI had to double check what sub this is. Thought it was r/BrandNewSentence . I'm not even joking.",
">\n\nWhen I see headlines like this… I think the world has gone mad."
] |
>
Quite the interesting name | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all.",
">\n\nAmong military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes.",
">\n\nYa but this is more of an odd one out kinda thing.\nCollectively, they would unite and gang up on the CG.",
">\n\nThis guy militaries",
">\n\nReal life Mad Lib headlines are the best.",
">\n\nThe dead fish is never explained.",
">\n\nI read the article specifically to get the dirt on the fish incident. No such luck.",
">\n\nIts really going to bother me. I'm wracking my brain trying to remember a fish incident from the movie. Its mentioned that he went fishing with someone in Astoria, so that's where the fish comes from, I guess. But why did he leave it on the porch, take video of it, finger the surveillance cam, then dance around the yard? I need to know what he posted on social media, maybe that will explain it.",
">\n\nI have many questions",
">\n\nThe dead fish thing is likely the least of his problems. He stole a yacht. \n\nAstoria police said Labonte was wanted on allegations of theft, endangering another person, unauthorized use of a vehicle, and criminal mischief. Astoria Police Chief Stacy Kelly said some of the allegations were from preexisting cases in British Columbia, according to the Associated Press.",
">\n\nSo much going on haha. Congrats to the Branch on his graduation and badass rescue, his career is going to be legendary. Those guys have balls of steel.\nHow did they release him from the hospital without anyone identifying him? They released him and had to chase him down and found him at a warming center some miles away.",
">\n\nI had to double check what sub this is. Thought it was r/BrandNewSentence . I'm not even joking.",
">\n\nWhen I see headlines like this… I think the world has gone mad.",
">\n\nWelcome to Reality, we're so glad to meet you. Have some tea? The sugar is over by the Dormouse."
] |
>
Wild ride, and terribly written. The reporter was either drunk or using ChatGPT.... or both. | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all.",
">\n\nAmong military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes.",
">\n\nYa but this is more of an odd one out kinda thing.\nCollectively, they would unite and gang up on the CG.",
">\n\nThis guy militaries",
">\n\nReal life Mad Lib headlines are the best.",
">\n\nThe dead fish is never explained.",
">\n\nI read the article specifically to get the dirt on the fish incident. No such luck.",
">\n\nIts really going to bother me. I'm wracking my brain trying to remember a fish incident from the movie. Its mentioned that he went fishing with someone in Astoria, so that's where the fish comes from, I guess. But why did he leave it on the porch, take video of it, finger the surveillance cam, then dance around the yard? I need to know what he posted on social media, maybe that will explain it.",
">\n\nI have many questions",
">\n\nThe dead fish thing is likely the least of his problems. He stole a yacht. \n\nAstoria police said Labonte was wanted on allegations of theft, endangering another person, unauthorized use of a vehicle, and criminal mischief. Astoria Police Chief Stacy Kelly said some of the allegations were from preexisting cases in British Columbia, according to the Associated Press.",
">\n\nSo much going on haha. Congrats to the Branch on his graduation and badass rescue, his career is going to be legendary. Those guys have balls of steel.\nHow did they release him from the hospital without anyone identifying him? They released him and had to chase him down and found him at a warming center some miles away.",
">\n\nI had to double check what sub this is. Thought it was r/BrandNewSentence . I'm not even joking.",
">\n\nWhen I see headlines like this… I think the world has gone mad.",
">\n\nWelcome to Reality, we're so glad to meet you. Have some tea? The sugar is over by the Dormouse.",
">\n\nQuite the interesting name"
] |
>
What the hell is that title | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all.",
">\n\nAmong military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes.",
">\n\nYa but this is more of an odd one out kinda thing.\nCollectively, they would unite and gang up on the CG.",
">\n\nThis guy militaries",
">\n\nReal life Mad Lib headlines are the best.",
">\n\nThe dead fish is never explained.",
">\n\nI read the article specifically to get the dirt on the fish incident. No such luck.",
">\n\nIts really going to bother me. I'm wracking my brain trying to remember a fish incident from the movie. Its mentioned that he went fishing with someone in Astoria, so that's where the fish comes from, I guess. But why did he leave it on the porch, take video of it, finger the surveillance cam, then dance around the yard? I need to know what he posted on social media, maybe that will explain it.",
">\n\nI have many questions",
">\n\nThe dead fish thing is likely the least of his problems. He stole a yacht. \n\nAstoria police said Labonte was wanted on allegations of theft, endangering another person, unauthorized use of a vehicle, and criminal mischief. Astoria Police Chief Stacy Kelly said some of the allegations were from preexisting cases in British Columbia, according to the Associated Press.",
">\n\nSo much going on haha. Congrats to the Branch on his graduation and badass rescue, his career is going to be legendary. Those guys have balls of steel.\nHow did they release him from the hospital without anyone identifying him? They released him and had to chase him down and found him at a warming center some miles away.",
">\n\nI had to double check what sub this is. Thought it was r/BrandNewSentence . I'm not even joking.",
">\n\nWhen I see headlines like this… I think the world has gone mad.",
">\n\nWelcome to Reality, we're so glad to meet you. Have some tea? The sugar is over by the Dormouse.",
">\n\nQuite the interesting name",
">\n\nWild ride, and terribly written. The reporter was either drunk or using ChatGPT.... or both."
] |
>
Believe it or not, one of the most accurate, concise headlines ever written. | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all.",
">\n\nAmong military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes.",
">\n\nYa but this is more of an odd one out kinda thing.\nCollectively, they would unite and gang up on the CG.",
">\n\nThis guy militaries",
">\n\nReal life Mad Lib headlines are the best.",
">\n\nThe dead fish is never explained.",
">\n\nI read the article specifically to get the dirt on the fish incident. No such luck.",
">\n\nIts really going to bother me. I'm wracking my brain trying to remember a fish incident from the movie. Its mentioned that he went fishing with someone in Astoria, so that's where the fish comes from, I guess. But why did he leave it on the porch, take video of it, finger the surveillance cam, then dance around the yard? I need to know what he posted on social media, maybe that will explain it.",
">\n\nI have many questions",
">\n\nThe dead fish thing is likely the least of his problems. He stole a yacht. \n\nAstoria police said Labonte was wanted on allegations of theft, endangering another person, unauthorized use of a vehicle, and criminal mischief. Astoria Police Chief Stacy Kelly said some of the allegations were from preexisting cases in British Columbia, according to the Associated Press.",
">\n\nSo much going on haha. Congrats to the Branch on his graduation and badass rescue, his career is going to be legendary. Those guys have balls of steel.\nHow did they release him from the hospital without anyone identifying him? They released him and had to chase him down and found him at a warming center some miles away.",
">\n\nI had to double check what sub this is. Thought it was r/BrandNewSentence . I'm not even joking.",
">\n\nWhen I see headlines like this… I think the world has gone mad.",
">\n\nWelcome to Reality, we're so glad to meet you. Have some tea? The sugar is over by the Dormouse.",
">\n\nQuite the interesting name",
">\n\nWild ride, and terribly written. The reporter was either drunk or using ChatGPT.... or both.",
">\n\nWhat the hell is that title"
] |
>
The video of that is wild, I know they call that area a graveyard for boats, and now I truly understand why. Did it run out of fuel? I know he stole it, and while most thieves don’t seem to understand a manual trans on a vehicle, but can still read a fuel gauge. Also, as a boat owner with insurance, solid chance the owner is thrilled. | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all.",
">\n\nAmong military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes.",
">\n\nYa but this is more of an odd one out kinda thing.\nCollectively, they would unite and gang up on the CG.",
">\n\nThis guy militaries",
">\n\nReal life Mad Lib headlines are the best.",
">\n\nThe dead fish is never explained.",
">\n\nI read the article specifically to get the dirt on the fish incident. No such luck.",
">\n\nIts really going to bother me. I'm wracking my brain trying to remember a fish incident from the movie. Its mentioned that he went fishing with someone in Astoria, so that's where the fish comes from, I guess. But why did he leave it on the porch, take video of it, finger the surveillance cam, then dance around the yard? I need to know what he posted on social media, maybe that will explain it.",
">\n\nI have many questions",
">\n\nThe dead fish thing is likely the least of his problems. He stole a yacht. \n\nAstoria police said Labonte was wanted on allegations of theft, endangering another person, unauthorized use of a vehicle, and criminal mischief. Astoria Police Chief Stacy Kelly said some of the allegations were from preexisting cases in British Columbia, according to the Associated Press.",
">\n\nSo much going on haha. Congrats to the Branch on his graduation and badass rescue, his career is going to be legendary. Those guys have balls of steel.\nHow did they release him from the hospital without anyone identifying him? They released him and had to chase him down and found him at a warming center some miles away.",
">\n\nI had to double check what sub this is. Thought it was r/BrandNewSentence . I'm not even joking.",
">\n\nWhen I see headlines like this… I think the world has gone mad.",
">\n\nWelcome to Reality, we're so glad to meet you. Have some tea? The sugar is over by the Dormouse.",
">\n\nQuite the interesting name",
">\n\nWild ride, and terribly written. The reporter was either drunk or using ChatGPT.... or both.",
">\n\nWhat the hell is that title",
">\n\nBelieve it or not, one of the most accurate, concise headlines ever written."
] |
>
I was staying at the Bowline. Holy cow did those coasties haul ass. A motor boat from Tongue Point. You could hear it hauling ass. And I think 2 helicopters moving with purpose, buzzed the city twice to get over water ASAP. | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all.",
">\n\nAmong military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes.",
">\n\nYa but this is more of an odd one out kinda thing.\nCollectively, they would unite and gang up on the CG.",
">\n\nThis guy militaries",
">\n\nReal life Mad Lib headlines are the best.",
">\n\nThe dead fish is never explained.",
">\n\nI read the article specifically to get the dirt on the fish incident. No such luck.",
">\n\nIts really going to bother me. I'm wracking my brain trying to remember a fish incident from the movie. Its mentioned that he went fishing with someone in Astoria, so that's where the fish comes from, I guess. But why did he leave it on the porch, take video of it, finger the surveillance cam, then dance around the yard? I need to know what he posted on social media, maybe that will explain it.",
">\n\nI have many questions",
">\n\nThe dead fish thing is likely the least of his problems. He stole a yacht. \n\nAstoria police said Labonte was wanted on allegations of theft, endangering another person, unauthorized use of a vehicle, and criminal mischief. Astoria Police Chief Stacy Kelly said some of the allegations were from preexisting cases in British Columbia, according to the Associated Press.",
">\n\nSo much going on haha. Congrats to the Branch on his graduation and badass rescue, his career is going to be legendary. Those guys have balls of steel.\nHow did they release him from the hospital without anyone identifying him? They released him and had to chase him down and found him at a warming center some miles away.",
">\n\nI had to double check what sub this is. Thought it was r/BrandNewSentence . I'm not even joking.",
">\n\nWhen I see headlines like this… I think the world has gone mad.",
">\n\nWelcome to Reality, we're so glad to meet you. Have some tea? The sugar is over by the Dormouse.",
">\n\nQuite the interesting name",
">\n\nWild ride, and terribly written. The reporter was either drunk or using ChatGPT.... or both.",
">\n\nWhat the hell is that title",
">\n\nBelieve it or not, one of the most accurate, concise headlines ever written.",
">\n\nThe video of that is wild, I know they call that area a graveyard for boats, and now I truly understand why. Did it run out of fuel? I know he stole it, and while most thieves don’t seem to understand a manual trans on a vehicle, but can still read a fuel gauge. Also, as a boat owner with insurance, solid chance the owner is thrilled."
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…that headline left me with so many questions and I don’t even know where to start | [
"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all.",
">\n\nAmong military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes.",
">\n\nYa but this is more of an odd one out kinda thing.\nCollectively, they would unite and gang up on the CG.",
">\n\nThis guy militaries",
">\n\nReal life Mad Lib headlines are the best.",
">\n\nThe dead fish is never explained.",
">\n\nI read the article specifically to get the dirt on the fish incident. No such luck.",
">\n\nIts really going to bother me. I'm wracking my brain trying to remember a fish incident from the movie. Its mentioned that he went fishing with someone in Astoria, so that's where the fish comes from, I guess. But why did he leave it on the porch, take video of it, finger the surveillance cam, then dance around the yard? I need to know what he posted on social media, maybe that will explain it.",
">\n\nI have many questions",
">\n\nThe dead fish thing is likely the least of his problems. He stole a yacht. \n\nAstoria police said Labonte was wanted on allegations of theft, endangering another person, unauthorized use of a vehicle, and criminal mischief. Astoria Police Chief Stacy Kelly said some of the allegations were from preexisting cases in British Columbia, according to the Associated Press.",
">\n\nSo much going on haha. Congrats to the Branch on his graduation and badass rescue, his career is going to be legendary. Those guys have balls of steel.\nHow did they release him from the hospital without anyone identifying him? They released him and had to chase him down and found him at a warming center some miles away.",
">\n\nI had to double check what sub this is. Thought it was r/BrandNewSentence . I'm not even joking.",
">\n\nWhen I see headlines like this… I think the world has gone mad.",
">\n\nWelcome to Reality, we're so glad to meet you. Have some tea? The sugar is over by the Dormouse.",
">\n\nQuite the interesting name",
">\n\nWild ride, and terribly written. The reporter was either drunk or using ChatGPT.... or both.",
">\n\nWhat the hell is that title",
">\n\nBelieve it or not, one of the most accurate, concise headlines ever written.",
">\n\nThe video of that is wild, I know they call that area a graveyard for boats, and now I truly understand why. Did it run out of fuel? I know he stole it, and while most thieves don’t seem to understand a manual trans on a vehicle, but can still read a fuel gauge. Also, as a boat owner with insurance, solid chance the owner is thrilled.",
">\n\nI was staying at the Bowline. Holy cow did those coasties haul ass. A motor boat from Tongue Point. You could hear it hauling ass. And I think 2 helicopters moving with purpose, buzzed the city twice to get over water ASAP."
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"Now that's a headline",
">\n\nMy favorite one is still \"German man moons Hell's Angels, throws puppy at them, escapes on stolen bulldozer\".",
">\n\nWhat kind of monster throws a puppy at people? \nI don't normally wish harm on anybody but those that hurt puppies get a special exception from that rule for me!",
">\n\nWow, that video was all over the place yesterday. Not only did he steal the yacht, he endangered the lives of the rescue team. I’m amazed no one was killed.",
">\n\nCoast Guard gets a bad wrap as a military branch but damn do they really pull some hard work, they are out there saving lives every single day. Recommend the smarter every day youtube series about what they do, it's pretty wild. Feel like a lot of what they do is just Florida man, and Florida man doing dumb shit and nearly dying lol",
">\n\nCoast guard never gets a bad rap. What are you talking about. They are like a national rescue service.",
">\n\nNot a bad rap amongst civillians.\nIf you had 1 coast guard in a room full of marines, army dudes...etc, he would be the butt of the joke.\nThats all.",
">\n\nAmong military types all of the other branches not their own are the butts of their jokes.",
">\n\nYa but this is more of an odd one out kinda thing.\nCollectively, they would unite and gang up on the CG.",
">\n\nThis guy militaries",
">\n\nReal life Mad Lib headlines are the best.",
">\n\nThe dead fish is never explained.",
">\n\nI read the article specifically to get the dirt on the fish incident. No such luck.",
">\n\nIts really going to bother me. I'm wracking my brain trying to remember a fish incident from the movie. Its mentioned that he went fishing with someone in Astoria, so that's where the fish comes from, I guess. But why did he leave it on the porch, take video of it, finger the surveillance cam, then dance around the yard? I need to know what he posted on social media, maybe that will explain it.",
">\n\nI have many questions",
">\n\nThe dead fish thing is likely the least of his problems. He stole a yacht. \n\nAstoria police said Labonte was wanted on allegations of theft, endangering another person, unauthorized use of a vehicle, and criminal mischief. Astoria Police Chief Stacy Kelly said some of the allegations were from preexisting cases in British Columbia, according to the Associated Press.",
">\n\nSo much going on haha. Congrats to the Branch on his graduation and badass rescue, his career is going to be legendary. Those guys have balls of steel.\nHow did they release him from the hospital without anyone identifying him? They released him and had to chase him down and found him at a warming center some miles away.",
">\n\nI had to double check what sub this is. Thought it was r/BrandNewSentence . I'm not even joking.",
">\n\nWhen I see headlines like this… I think the world has gone mad.",
">\n\nWelcome to Reality, we're so glad to meet you. Have some tea? The sugar is over by the Dormouse.",
">\n\nQuite the interesting name",
">\n\nWild ride, and terribly written. The reporter was either drunk or using ChatGPT.... or both.",
">\n\nWhat the hell is that title",
">\n\nBelieve it or not, one of the most accurate, concise headlines ever written.",
">\n\nThe video of that is wild, I know they call that area a graveyard for boats, and now I truly understand why. Did it run out of fuel? I know he stole it, and while most thieves don’t seem to understand a manual trans on a vehicle, but can still read a fuel gauge. Also, as a boat owner with insurance, solid chance the owner is thrilled.",
">\n\nI was staying at the Bowline. Holy cow did those coasties haul ass. A motor boat from Tongue Point. You could hear it hauling ass. And I think 2 helicopters moving with purpose, buzzed the city twice to get over water ASAP.",
">\n\n…that headline left me with so many questions and I don’t even know where to start"
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Looks great, matches the milky white case really well.
How do you like the mt3 on this board? Get mine next week and trying to get my mt3s off the bench | [] |
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I think the typing feel is bouncy and solid at the same time. Only complaint is that since mt3 is tall, I hit the print key whenever I use the knob | [
"Looks great, matches the milky white case really well. \nHow do you like the mt3 on this board? Get mine next week and trying to get my mt3s off the bench"
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keycaps name? | [
"Looks great, matches the milky white case really well. \nHow do you like the mt3 on this board? Get mine next week and trying to get my mt3s off the bench",
">\n\nI think the typing feel is bouncy and solid at the same time. Only complaint is that since mt3 is tall, I hit the print key whenever I use the knob"
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Drop MT3 9009 | [
"Looks great, matches the milky white case really well. \nHow do you like the mt3 on this board? Get mine next week and trying to get my mt3s off the bench",
">\n\nI think the typing feel is bouncy and solid at the same time. Only complaint is that since mt3 is tall, I hit the print key whenever I use the knob",
">\n\nkeycaps name?"
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What plate are you using? Still waiting for mine to ship | [
"Looks great, matches the milky white case really well. \nHow do you like the mt3 on this board? Get mine next week and trying to get my mt3s off the bench",
">\n\nI think the typing feel is bouncy and solid at the same time. Only complaint is that since mt3 is tall, I hit the print key whenever I use the knob",
">\n\nkeycaps name?",
">\n\nDrop MT3 9009"
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POM plate with Epsilon switches | [
"Looks great, matches the milky white case really well. \nHow do you like the mt3 on this board? Get mine next week and trying to get my mt3s off the bench",
">\n\nI think the typing feel is bouncy and solid at the same time. Only complaint is that since mt3 is tall, I hit the print key whenever I use the knob",
">\n\nkeycaps name?",
">\n\nDrop MT3 9009",
">\n\nWhat plate are you using? Still waiting for mine to ship"
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> | [
"Looks great, matches the milky white case really well. \nHow do you like the mt3 on this board? Get mine next week and trying to get my mt3s off the bench",
">\n\nI think the typing feel is bouncy and solid at the same time. Only complaint is that since mt3 is tall, I hit the print key whenever I use the knob",
">\n\nkeycaps name?",
">\n\nDrop MT3 9009",
">\n\nWhat plate are you using? Still waiting for mine to ship",
">\n\nPOM plate with Epsilon switches"
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Can’t imagine why red states struggle so hard in so many areas… | [] |
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Backstory: Texas is full of "Leadership Academies" backed by Lizzie DeVos, yes the sister of Eric Prince of Blackwater fame, Drumpf's former Sec. of Education. They take public money to offer education in competition with public schools. Unfortunately, their students do worse on standardized tests than public school students.
It's just part of the ongoing Rethuglican effort to make a profit by destroying public education. | [
"Can’t imagine why red states struggle so hard in so many areas…"
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Right now in PA, the fucking charter school vultures are giving away computers to anyone who signs up for remote learning with them. They're advertising on popular podcasts and during the NFC/AFC championships on TV. It's literally just fucking embezzlement. | [
"Can’t imagine why red states struggle so hard in so many areas…",
">\n\nBackstory: Texas is full of \"Leadership Academies\" backed by Lizzie DeVos, yes the sister of Eric Prince of Blackwater fame, Drumpf's former Sec. of Education. They take public money to offer education in competition with public schools. Unfortunately, their students do worse on standardized tests than public school students.\nIt's just part of the ongoing Rethuglican effort to make a profit by destroying public education."
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Texas and education shouldn't be allowed in the same sentence. | [
"Can’t imagine why red states struggle so hard in so many areas…",
">\n\nBackstory: Texas is full of \"Leadership Academies\" backed by Lizzie DeVos, yes the sister of Eric Prince of Blackwater fame, Drumpf's former Sec. of Education. They take public money to offer education in competition with public schools. Unfortunately, their students do worse on standardized tests than public school students.\nIt's just part of the ongoing Rethuglican effort to make a profit by destroying public education.",
">\n\nRight now in PA, the fucking charter school vultures are giving away computers to anyone who signs up for remote learning with them. They're advertising on popular podcasts and during the NFC/AFC championships on TV. It's literally just fucking embezzlement."
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...And the GOP puts another nail in the coffin of public education. | [
"Can’t imagine why red states struggle so hard in so many areas…",
">\n\nBackstory: Texas is full of \"Leadership Academies\" backed by Lizzie DeVos, yes the sister of Eric Prince of Blackwater fame, Drumpf's former Sec. of Education. They take public money to offer education in competition with public schools. Unfortunately, their students do worse on standardized tests than public school students.\nIt's just part of the ongoing Rethuglican effort to make a profit by destroying public education.",
">\n\nRight now in PA, the fucking charter school vultures are giving away computers to anyone who signs up for remote learning with them. They're advertising on popular podcasts and during the NFC/AFC championships on TV. It's literally just fucking embezzlement.",
">\n\nTexas and education shouldn't be allowed in the same sentence."
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This just hurts my soul because the last governor who actually cared about schools was a teacher. It’s been nothing but lip service, riding on fumes, and now cutting the nose to spit the face. Richards is rolling in her grave… | [
"Can’t imagine why red states struggle so hard in so many areas…",
">\n\nBackstory: Texas is full of \"Leadership Academies\" backed by Lizzie DeVos, yes the sister of Eric Prince of Blackwater fame, Drumpf's former Sec. of Education. They take public money to offer education in competition with public schools. Unfortunately, their students do worse on standardized tests than public school students.\nIt's just part of the ongoing Rethuglican effort to make a profit by destroying public education.",
">\n\nRight now in PA, the fucking charter school vultures are giving away computers to anyone who signs up for remote learning with them. They're advertising on popular podcasts and during the NFC/AFC championships on TV. It's literally just fucking embezzlement.",
">\n\nTexas and education shouldn't be allowed in the same sentence.",
">\n\n...And the GOP puts another nail in the coffin of public education."
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Lmfao that’s it folks, it’s all over. What a shithole | [
"Can’t imagine why red states struggle so hard in so many areas…",
">\n\nBackstory: Texas is full of \"Leadership Academies\" backed by Lizzie DeVos, yes the sister of Eric Prince of Blackwater fame, Drumpf's former Sec. of Education. They take public money to offer education in competition with public schools. Unfortunately, their students do worse on standardized tests than public school students.\nIt's just part of the ongoing Rethuglican effort to make a profit by destroying public education.",
">\n\nRight now in PA, the fucking charter school vultures are giving away computers to anyone who signs up for remote learning with them. They're advertising on popular podcasts and during the NFC/AFC championships on TV. It's literally just fucking embezzlement.",
">\n\nTexas and education shouldn't be allowed in the same sentence.",
">\n\n...And the GOP puts another nail in the coffin of public education.",
">\n\nThis just hurts my soul because the last governor who actually cared about schools was a teacher. It’s been nothing but lip service, riding on fumes, and now cutting the nose to spit the face. Richards is rolling in her grave…"
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Must have just found out about that “Wonderful Nazi” school program. | [
"Can’t imagine why red states struggle so hard in so many areas…",
">\n\nBackstory: Texas is full of \"Leadership Academies\" backed by Lizzie DeVos, yes the sister of Eric Prince of Blackwater fame, Drumpf's former Sec. of Education. They take public money to offer education in competition with public schools. Unfortunately, their students do worse on standardized tests than public school students.\nIt's just part of the ongoing Rethuglican effort to make a profit by destroying public education.",
">\n\nRight now in PA, the fucking charter school vultures are giving away computers to anyone who signs up for remote learning with them. They're advertising on popular podcasts and during the NFC/AFC championships on TV. It's literally just fucking embezzlement.",
">\n\nTexas and education shouldn't be allowed in the same sentence.",
">\n\n...And the GOP puts another nail in the coffin of public education.",
">\n\nThis just hurts my soul because the last governor who actually cared about schools was a teacher. It’s been nothing but lip service, riding on fumes, and now cutting the nose to spit the face. Richards is rolling in her grave…",
">\n\nLmfao that’s it folks, it’s all over. What a shithole"
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Jesus is gonna be locked and loaded in a few generations. Fuck the GOP. | [
"Can’t imagine why red states struggle so hard in so many areas…",
">\n\nBackstory: Texas is full of \"Leadership Academies\" backed by Lizzie DeVos, yes the sister of Eric Prince of Blackwater fame, Drumpf's former Sec. of Education. They take public money to offer education in competition with public schools. Unfortunately, their students do worse on standardized tests than public school students.\nIt's just part of the ongoing Rethuglican effort to make a profit by destroying public education.",
">\n\nRight now in PA, the fucking charter school vultures are giving away computers to anyone who signs up for remote learning with them. They're advertising on popular podcasts and during the NFC/AFC championships on TV. It's literally just fucking embezzlement.",
">\n\nTexas and education shouldn't be allowed in the same sentence.",
">\n\n...And the GOP puts another nail in the coffin of public education.",
">\n\nThis just hurts my soul because the last governor who actually cared about schools was a teacher. It’s been nothing but lip service, riding on fumes, and now cutting the nose to spit the face. Richards is rolling in her grave…",
">\n\nLmfao that’s it folks, it’s all over. What a shithole",
">\n\nMust have just found out about that “Wonderful Nazi” school program."
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no surprise their education is subpar | [
"Can’t imagine why red states struggle so hard in so many areas…",
">\n\nBackstory: Texas is full of \"Leadership Academies\" backed by Lizzie DeVos, yes the sister of Eric Prince of Blackwater fame, Drumpf's former Sec. of Education. They take public money to offer education in competition with public schools. Unfortunately, their students do worse on standardized tests than public school students.\nIt's just part of the ongoing Rethuglican effort to make a profit by destroying public education.",
">\n\nRight now in PA, the fucking charter school vultures are giving away computers to anyone who signs up for remote learning with them. They're advertising on popular podcasts and during the NFC/AFC championships on TV. It's literally just fucking embezzlement.",
">\n\nTexas and education shouldn't be allowed in the same sentence.",
">\n\n...And the GOP puts another nail in the coffin of public education.",
">\n\nThis just hurts my soul because the last governor who actually cared about schools was a teacher. It’s been nothing but lip service, riding on fumes, and now cutting the nose to spit the face. Richards is rolling in her grave…",
">\n\nLmfao that’s it folks, it’s all over. What a shithole",
">\n\nMust have just found out about that “Wonderful Nazi” school program.",
">\n\nJesus is gonna be locked and loaded in a few generations. Fuck the GOP."
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"Can’t imagine why red states struggle so hard in so many areas…",
">\n\nBackstory: Texas is full of \"Leadership Academies\" backed by Lizzie DeVos, yes the sister of Eric Prince of Blackwater fame, Drumpf's former Sec. of Education. They take public money to offer education in competition with public schools. Unfortunately, their students do worse on standardized tests than public school students.\nIt's just part of the ongoing Rethuglican effort to make a profit by destroying public education.",
">\n\nRight now in PA, the fucking charter school vultures are giving away computers to anyone who signs up for remote learning with them. They're advertising on popular podcasts and during the NFC/AFC championships on TV. It's literally just fucking embezzlement.",
">\n\nTexas and education shouldn't be allowed in the same sentence.",
">\n\n...And the GOP puts another nail in the coffin of public education.",
">\n\nThis just hurts my soul because the last governor who actually cared about schools was a teacher. It’s been nothing but lip service, riding on fumes, and now cutting the nose to spit the face. Richards is rolling in her grave…",
">\n\nLmfao that’s it folks, it’s all over. What a shithole",
">\n\nMust have just found out about that “Wonderful Nazi” school program.",
">\n\nJesus is gonna be locked and loaded in a few generations. Fuck the GOP.",
">\n\nno surprise their education is subpar"
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Should countersue those natives for emotional damage too for bringing up the past. | [] |
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"Should countersue those natives for emotional damage too for bringing up the past."
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There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'
I'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals | [] |
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First off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals"
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Thank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.
Come to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse."
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You can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them."
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Very true.
What people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.
I'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals."
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I think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol."
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Idk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not."
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Lol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?
And I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan."
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Mostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children.
Like you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together."
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Well, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.
Kids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.
I don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans."
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Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't "like" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify "liking" animals is definitely subjective. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions."
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Fair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.
Again, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.
Both are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it) | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective."
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“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)"
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Except if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.
(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this) | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol"
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Depending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)"
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The death of an innocent is always a tragedy. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf."
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I find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy."
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Someone already beat you to this insight | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous."
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Okay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight"
] |
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One of the reasons I prefer them to dogs | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either."
] |
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Here's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.
I noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.
Simply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.
The best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs"
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I love animals. They’re delicious! | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war."
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It is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!"
] |
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This I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality.
It is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either."
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It's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as "good" or "positive" is just bizarre.
And again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it."
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note my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities."
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Your original comment is itself not applicable and inane. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable."
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I feel like it doesn’t matter either, I love animals because they are life separate to humans and to me it’s fascinating to have interactions with them despite how different they are to me. I see no reason to actively dislike something causing you no harm, though. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable.",
">\n\nYour original comment is itself not applicable and inane."
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I don't want to be around one. I dislike it when an animal invades my space. And this is what the vast majority of society and these comments seem to take issue with.
I will watch animals behind a glass cage or a TV screen with as much fascination and interest as the next guy. I don't want to touch one IRL. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable.",
">\n\nYour original comment is itself not applicable and inane.",
">\n\nI feel like it doesn’t matter either, I love animals because they are life separate to humans and to me it’s fascinating to have interactions with them despite how different they are to me. I see no reason to actively dislike something causing you no harm, though."
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Is it like a fear? Maybe some people have a natural feeling that animals will do something to harm them? Also to animals I think they don’t see personal space as the same as us, I assume you’re talking about dogs who like to get up close to people and all that lol. What is it about societies issue with this that bothers you? | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable.",
">\n\nYour original comment is itself not applicable and inane.",
">\n\nI feel like it doesn’t matter either, I love animals because they are life separate to humans and to me it’s fascinating to have interactions with them despite how different they are to me. I see no reason to actively dislike something causing you no harm, though.",
">\n\nI don't want to be around one. I dislike it when an animal invades my space. And this is what the vast majority of society and these comments seem to take issue with.\nI will watch animals behind a glass cage or a TV screen with as much fascination and interest as the next guy. I don't want to touch one IRL."
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I don't have a fear. I just don't like being close to an animal in general. Their smell puts me off and it's just meh. When I say close, I mean interacting with one. I don't care if a dog or cat is two feet away from me and doing it's own thing.
I'm not expecting the animal to understand it. But if I express any reservations about the animal coming too close to me, I'm viewed as the asshole.
To give you an example: my apartment complex had regular lifts and a service lift. Pets were meant to be taken in the service lift only but this rule was often flouted. Whatever, not my problem.
Instance one, lady with a dog wanted to enter the regular lift. Asked if anyone had a problem, I said I did. Couple of other people in the lift gave me a dirty look and so did the dog owner. Instance two, dog owner wanted to enter the regular lift. Didn't ask this time. I figured why bother, and exited the lift. Again, dirty looks from all my lift buddies (it's a tiny lift, both times it was quite cramped, I could smell the dog and the dog wasn't tiny so it would only get more cramped). If any of these factors wasn't true, I'd have stood in that lift without a second thought.
Like what am I supposed to do? If I point out the rule, I'm the asshole. If I go out of my way to let you do what you want with your dog, I'm still the asshole.
These were all entirely different people. So it's not some bad luck or whatever. You can want to identify as a panda and people will accept it, but God forbid you don't want to French a dog the second you see it.
My issue with society's view on this is how extreme it is. I have nothing against your pet. I want it to be happy and healthy. Just from a distance. Somehow this makes me evil. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable.",
">\n\nYour original comment is itself not applicable and inane.",
">\n\nI feel like it doesn’t matter either, I love animals because they are life separate to humans and to me it’s fascinating to have interactions with them despite how different they are to me. I see no reason to actively dislike something causing you no harm, though.",
">\n\nI don't want to be around one. I dislike it when an animal invades my space. And this is what the vast majority of society and these comments seem to take issue with.\nI will watch animals behind a glass cage or a TV screen with as much fascination and interest as the next guy. I don't want to touch one IRL.",
">\n\nIs it like a fear? Maybe some people have a natural feeling that animals will do something to harm them? Also to animals I think they don’t see personal space as the same as us, I assume you’re talking about dogs who like to get up close to people and all that lol. What is it about societies issue with this that bothers you?"
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I think to most people , and even to me to an extent our reaction is one of , “I don’t understand why” . And we want to figure out why obviously ,and when we look at animals we love it’s easy to view your pov as the opposite, aka hate. I’m not saying that’s how u see it but to me it’s one of those things that I wouldn’t really pay any mind to so when someone does at the least it would strike me as unusual, not necessarily bad. What was going through your head when they brought their dog in the elevator? I have things I dislike too but usually I tend to bear it if it means things go smoother that way. That’s why I initially thought it was a fear . | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable.",
">\n\nYour original comment is itself not applicable and inane.",
">\n\nI feel like it doesn’t matter either, I love animals because they are life separate to humans and to me it’s fascinating to have interactions with them despite how different they are to me. I see no reason to actively dislike something causing you no harm, though.",
">\n\nI don't want to be around one. I dislike it when an animal invades my space. And this is what the vast majority of society and these comments seem to take issue with.\nI will watch animals behind a glass cage or a TV screen with as much fascination and interest as the next guy. I don't want to touch one IRL.",
">\n\nIs it like a fear? Maybe some people have a natural feeling that animals will do something to harm them? Also to animals I think they don’t see personal space as the same as us, I assume you’re talking about dogs who like to get up close to people and all that lol. What is it about societies issue with this that bothers you?",
">\n\nI don't have a fear. I just don't like being close to an animal in general. Their smell puts me off and it's just meh. When I say close, I mean interacting with one. I don't care if a dog or cat is two feet away from me and doing it's own thing.\nI'm not expecting the animal to understand it. But if I express any reservations about the animal coming too close to me, I'm viewed as the asshole.\nTo give you an example: my apartment complex had regular lifts and a service lift. Pets were meant to be taken in the service lift only but this rule was often flouted. Whatever, not my problem.\nInstance one, lady with a dog wanted to enter the regular lift. Asked if anyone had a problem, I said I did. Couple of other people in the lift gave me a dirty look and so did the dog owner. Instance two, dog owner wanted to enter the regular lift. Didn't ask this time. I figured why bother, and exited the lift. Again, dirty looks from all my lift buddies (it's a tiny lift, both times it was quite cramped, I could smell the dog and the dog wasn't tiny so it would only get more cramped). If any of these factors wasn't true, I'd have stood in that lift without a second thought.\nLike what am I supposed to do? If I point out the rule, I'm the asshole. If I go out of my way to let you do what you want with your dog, I'm still the asshole.\nThese were all entirely different people. So it's not some bad luck or whatever. You can want to identify as a panda and people will accept it, but God forbid you don't want to French a dog the second you see it.\nMy issue with society's view on this is how extreme it is. I have nothing against your pet. I want it to be happy and healthy. Just from a distance. Somehow this makes me evil."
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Replace dogs or pets with smoking in the 50s and 60s. Say they said there's one lift where you can smoke. Someone comes into the nonsmoking lift and lights up. You don't like smoking. For whatever reason, you don't like the smell, or you end up biting the filter off or it makes you cough. But because everyone's smoking all the time, nobody objects to this guy lighting up in the nonsmoking lift.
You point out that there's a smoking lift, you're the asshole. You walk out the next time you see this happen and take the stairs, ding ding ding, you're the asshole again. "I just don't want to be around the cigarette" should be reason enough. No? | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable.",
">\n\nYour original comment is itself not applicable and inane.",
">\n\nI feel like it doesn’t matter either, I love animals because they are life separate to humans and to me it’s fascinating to have interactions with them despite how different they are to me. I see no reason to actively dislike something causing you no harm, though.",
">\n\nI don't want to be around one. I dislike it when an animal invades my space. And this is what the vast majority of society and these comments seem to take issue with.\nI will watch animals behind a glass cage or a TV screen with as much fascination and interest as the next guy. I don't want to touch one IRL.",
">\n\nIs it like a fear? Maybe some people have a natural feeling that animals will do something to harm them? Also to animals I think they don’t see personal space as the same as us, I assume you’re talking about dogs who like to get up close to people and all that lol. What is it about societies issue with this that bothers you?",
">\n\nI don't have a fear. I just don't like being close to an animal in general. Their smell puts me off and it's just meh. When I say close, I mean interacting with one. I don't care if a dog or cat is two feet away from me and doing it's own thing.\nI'm not expecting the animal to understand it. But if I express any reservations about the animal coming too close to me, I'm viewed as the asshole.\nTo give you an example: my apartment complex had regular lifts and a service lift. Pets were meant to be taken in the service lift only but this rule was often flouted. Whatever, not my problem.\nInstance one, lady with a dog wanted to enter the regular lift. Asked if anyone had a problem, I said I did. Couple of other people in the lift gave me a dirty look and so did the dog owner. Instance two, dog owner wanted to enter the regular lift. Didn't ask this time. I figured why bother, and exited the lift. Again, dirty looks from all my lift buddies (it's a tiny lift, both times it was quite cramped, I could smell the dog and the dog wasn't tiny so it would only get more cramped). If any of these factors wasn't true, I'd have stood in that lift without a second thought.\nLike what am I supposed to do? If I point out the rule, I'm the asshole. If I go out of my way to let you do what you want with your dog, I'm still the asshole.\nThese were all entirely different people. So it's not some bad luck or whatever. You can want to identify as a panda and people will accept it, but God forbid you don't want to French a dog the second you see it.\nMy issue with society's view on this is how extreme it is. I have nothing against your pet. I want it to be happy and healthy. Just from a distance. Somehow this makes me evil.",
">\n\nI think to most people , and even to me to an extent our reaction is one of , “I don’t understand why” . And we want to figure out why obviously ,and when we look at animals we love it’s easy to view your pov as the opposite, aka hate. I’m not saying that’s how u see it but to me it’s one of those things that I wouldn’t really pay any mind to so when someone does at the least it would strike me as unusual, not necessarily bad. What was going through your head when they brought their dog in the elevator? I have things I dislike too but usually I tend to bear it if it means things go smoother that way. That’s why I initially thought it was a fear ."
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Tell me you're a monster without telling me you're a monster. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable.",
">\n\nYour original comment is itself not applicable and inane.",
">\n\nI feel like it doesn’t matter either, I love animals because they are life separate to humans and to me it’s fascinating to have interactions with them despite how different they are to me. I see no reason to actively dislike something causing you no harm, though.",
">\n\nI don't want to be around one. I dislike it when an animal invades my space. And this is what the vast majority of society and these comments seem to take issue with.\nI will watch animals behind a glass cage or a TV screen with as much fascination and interest as the next guy. I don't want to touch one IRL.",
">\n\nIs it like a fear? Maybe some people have a natural feeling that animals will do something to harm them? Also to animals I think they don’t see personal space as the same as us, I assume you’re talking about dogs who like to get up close to people and all that lol. What is it about societies issue with this that bothers you?",
">\n\nI don't have a fear. I just don't like being close to an animal in general. Their smell puts me off and it's just meh. When I say close, I mean interacting with one. I don't care if a dog or cat is two feet away from me and doing it's own thing.\nI'm not expecting the animal to understand it. But if I express any reservations about the animal coming too close to me, I'm viewed as the asshole.\nTo give you an example: my apartment complex had regular lifts and a service lift. Pets were meant to be taken in the service lift only but this rule was often flouted. Whatever, not my problem.\nInstance one, lady with a dog wanted to enter the regular lift. Asked if anyone had a problem, I said I did. Couple of other people in the lift gave me a dirty look and so did the dog owner. Instance two, dog owner wanted to enter the regular lift. Didn't ask this time. I figured why bother, and exited the lift. Again, dirty looks from all my lift buddies (it's a tiny lift, both times it was quite cramped, I could smell the dog and the dog wasn't tiny so it would only get more cramped). If any of these factors wasn't true, I'd have stood in that lift without a second thought.\nLike what am I supposed to do? If I point out the rule, I'm the asshole. If I go out of my way to let you do what you want with your dog, I'm still the asshole.\nThese were all entirely different people. So it's not some bad luck or whatever. You can want to identify as a panda and people will accept it, but God forbid you don't want to French a dog the second you see it.\nMy issue with society's view on this is how extreme it is. I have nothing against your pet. I want it to be happy and healthy. Just from a distance. Somehow this makes me evil.",
">\n\nI think to most people , and even to me to an extent our reaction is one of , “I don’t understand why” . And we want to figure out why obviously ,and when we look at animals we love it’s easy to view your pov as the opposite, aka hate. I’m not saying that’s how u see it but to me it’s one of those things that I wouldn’t really pay any mind to so when someone does at the least it would strike me as unusual, not necessarily bad. What was going through your head when they brought their dog in the elevator? I have things I dislike too but usually I tend to bear it if it means things go smoother that way. That’s why I initially thought it was a fear .",
">\n\nReplace dogs or pets with smoking in the 50s and 60s. Say they said there's one lift where you can smoke. Someone comes into the nonsmoking lift and lights up. You don't like smoking. For whatever reason, you don't like the smell, or you end up biting the filter off or it makes you cough. But because everyone's smoking all the time, nobody objects to this guy lighting up in the nonsmoking lift.\nYou point out that there's a smoking lift, you're the asshole. You walk out the next time you see this happen and take the stairs, ding ding ding, you're the asshole again. \"I just don't want to be around the cigarette\" should be reason enough. No?"
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Tell me you don't respect people's boundaries without telling me you don't respect people's boundaries | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable.",
">\n\nYour original comment is itself not applicable and inane.",
">\n\nI feel like it doesn’t matter either, I love animals because they are life separate to humans and to me it’s fascinating to have interactions with them despite how different they are to me. I see no reason to actively dislike something causing you no harm, though.",
">\n\nI don't want to be around one. I dislike it when an animal invades my space. And this is what the vast majority of society and these comments seem to take issue with.\nI will watch animals behind a glass cage or a TV screen with as much fascination and interest as the next guy. I don't want to touch one IRL.",
">\n\nIs it like a fear? Maybe some people have a natural feeling that animals will do something to harm them? Also to animals I think they don’t see personal space as the same as us, I assume you’re talking about dogs who like to get up close to people and all that lol. What is it about societies issue with this that bothers you?",
">\n\nI don't have a fear. I just don't like being close to an animal in general. Their smell puts me off and it's just meh. When I say close, I mean interacting with one. I don't care if a dog or cat is two feet away from me and doing it's own thing.\nI'm not expecting the animal to understand it. But if I express any reservations about the animal coming too close to me, I'm viewed as the asshole.\nTo give you an example: my apartment complex had regular lifts and a service lift. Pets were meant to be taken in the service lift only but this rule was often flouted. Whatever, not my problem.\nInstance one, lady with a dog wanted to enter the regular lift. Asked if anyone had a problem, I said I did. Couple of other people in the lift gave me a dirty look and so did the dog owner. Instance two, dog owner wanted to enter the regular lift. Didn't ask this time. I figured why bother, and exited the lift. Again, dirty looks from all my lift buddies (it's a tiny lift, both times it was quite cramped, I could smell the dog and the dog wasn't tiny so it would only get more cramped). If any of these factors wasn't true, I'd have stood in that lift without a second thought.\nLike what am I supposed to do? If I point out the rule, I'm the asshole. If I go out of my way to let you do what you want with your dog, I'm still the asshole.\nThese were all entirely different people. So it's not some bad luck or whatever. You can want to identify as a panda and people will accept it, but God forbid you don't want to French a dog the second you see it.\nMy issue with society's view on this is how extreme it is. I have nothing against your pet. I want it to be happy and healthy. Just from a distance. Somehow this makes me evil.",
">\n\nI think to most people , and even to me to an extent our reaction is one of , “I don’t understand why” . And we want to figure out why obviously ,and when we look at animals we love it’s easy to view your pov as the opposite, aka hate. I’m not saying that’s how u see it but to me it’s one of those things that I wouldn’t really pay any mind to so when someone does at the least it would strike me as unusual, not necessarily bad. What was going through your head when they brought their dog in the elevator? I have things I dislike too but usually I tend to bear it if it means things go smoother that way. That’s why I initially thought it was a fear .",
">\n\nReplace dogs or pets with smoking in the 50s and 60s. Say they said there's one lift where you can smoke. Someone comes into the nonsmoking lift and lights up. You don't like smoking. For whatever reason, you don't like the smell, or you end up biting the filter off or it makes you cough. But because everyone's smoking all the time, nobody objects to this guy lighting up in the nonsmoking lift.\nYou point out that there's a smoking lift, you're the asshole. You walk out the next time you see this happen and take the stairs, ding ding ding, you're the asshole again. \"I just don't want to be around the cigarette\" should be reason enough. No?",
">\n\nTell me you're a monster without telling me you're a monster."
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"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable.",
">\n\nYour original comment is itself not applicable and inane.",
">\n\nI feel like it doesn’t matter either, I love animals because they are life separate to humans and to me it’s fascinating to have interactions with them despite how different they are to me. I see no reason to actively dislike something causing you no harm, though.",
">\n\nI don't want to be around one. I dislike it when an animal invades my space. And this is what the vast majority of society and these comments seem to take issue with.\nI will watch animals behind a glass cage or a TV screen with as much fascination and interest as the next guy. I don't want to touch one IRL.",
">\n\nIs it like a fear? Maybe some people have a natural feeling that animals will do something to harm them? Also to animals I think they don’t see personal space as the same as us, I assume you’re talking about dogs who like to get up close to people and all that lol. What is it about societies issue with this that bothers you?",
">\n\nI don't have a fear. I just don't like being close to an animal in general. Their smell puts me off and it's just meh. When I say close, I mean interacting with one. I don't care if a dog or cat is two feet away from me and doing it's own thing.\nI'm not expecting the animal to understand it. But if I express any reservations about the animal coming too close to me, I'm viewed as the asshole.\nTo give you an example: my apartment complex had regular lifts and a service lift. Pets were meant to be taken in the service lift only but this rule was often flouted. Whatever, not my problem.\nInstance one, lady with a dog wanted to enter the regular lift. Asked if anyone had a problem, I said I did. Couple of other people in the lift gave me a dirty look and so did the dog owner. Instance two, dog owner wanted to enter the regular lift. Didn't ask this time. I figured why bother, and exited the lift. Again, dirty looks from all my lift buddies (it's a tiny lift, both times it was quite cramped, I could smell the dog and the dog wasn't tiny so it would only get more cramped). If any of these factors wasn't true, I'd have stood in that lift without a second thought.\nLike what am I supposed to do? If I point out the rule, I'm the asshole. If I go out of my way to let you do what you want with your dog, I'm still the asshole.\nThese were all entirely different people. So it's not some bad luck or whatever. You can want to identify as a panda and people will accept it, but God forbid you don't want to French a dog the second you see it.\nMy issue with society's view on this is how extreme it is. I have nothing against your pet. I want it to be happy and healthy. Just from a distance. Somehow this makes me evil.",
">\n\nI think to most people , and even to me to an extent our reaction is one of , “I don’t understand why” . And we want to figure out why obviously ,and when we look at animals we love it’s easy to view your pov as the opposite, aka hate. I’m not saying that’s how u see it but to me it’s one of those things that I wouldn’t really pay any mind to so when someone does at the least it would strike me as unusual, not necessarily bad. What was going through your head when they brought their dog in the elevator? I have things I dislike too but usually I tend to bear it if it means things go smoother that way. That’s why I initially thought it was a fear .",
">\n\nReplace dogs or pets with smoking in the 50s and 60s. Say they said there's one lift where you can smoke. Someone comes into the nonsmoking lift and lights up. You don't like smoking. For whatever reason, you don't like the smell, or you end up biting the filter off or it makes you cough. But because everyone's smoking all the time, nobody objects to this guy lighting up in the nonsmoking lift.\nYou point out that there's a smoking lift, you're the asshole. You walk out the next time you see this happen and take the stairs, ding ding ding, you're the asshole again. \"I just don't want to be around the cigarette\" should be reason enough. No?",
">\n\nTell me you're a monster without telling me you're a monster.",
">\n\nTell me you don't respect people's boundaries without telling me you don't respect people's boundaries"
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And I'm the monster? Trivialising sexual abuse because someone wants to keep a distance from an animal?
Take a long look in the mirror, you're disgusting. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable.",
">\n\nYour original comment is itself not applicable and inane.",
">\n\nI feel like it doesn’t matter either, I love animals because they are life separate to humans and to me it’s fascinating to have interactions with them despite how different they are to me. I see no reason to actively dislike something causing you no harm, though.",
">\n\nI don't want to be around one. I dislike it when an animal invades my space. And this is what the vast majority of society and these comments seem to take issue with.\nI will watch animals behind a glass cage or a TV screen with as much fascination and interest as the next guy. I don't want to touch one IRL.",
">\n\nIs it like a fear? Maybe some people have a natural feeling that animals will do something to harm them? Also to animals I think they don’t see personal space as the same as us, I assume you’re talking about dogs who like to get up close to people and all that lol. What is it about societies issue with this that bothers you?",
">\n\nI don't have a fear. I just don't like being close to an animal in general. Their smell puts me off and it's just meh. When I say close, I mean interacting with one. I don't care if a dog or cat is two feet away from me and doing it's own thing.\nI'm not expecting the animal to understand it. But if I express any reservations about the animal coming too close to me, I'm viewed as the asshole.\nTo give you an example: my apartment complex had regular lifts and a service lift. Pets were meant to be taken in the service lift only but this rule was often flouted. Whatever, not my problem.\nInstance one, lady with a dog wanted to enter the regular lift. Asked if anyone had a problem, I said I did. Couple of other people in the lift gave me a dirty look and so did the dog owner. Instance two, dog owner wanted to enter the regular lift. Didn't ask this time. I figured why bother, and exited the lift. Again, dirty looks from all my lift buddies (it's a tiny lift, both times it was quite cramped, I could smell the dog and the dog wasn't tiny so it would only get more cramped). If any of these factors wasn't true, I'd have stood in that lift without a second thought.\nLike what am I supposed to do? If I point out the rule, I'm the asshole. If I go out of my way to let you do what you want with your dog, I'm still the asshole.\nThese were all entirely different people. So it's not some bad luck or whatever. You can want to identify as a panda and people will accept it, but God forbid you don't want to French a dog the second you see it.\nMy issue with society's view on this is how extreme it is. I have nothing against your pet. I want it to be happy and healthy. Just from a distance. Somehow this makes me evil.",
">\n\nI think to most people , and even to me to an extent our reaction is one of , “I don’t understand why” . And we want to figure out why obviously ,and when we look at animals we love it’s easy to view your pov as the opposite, aka hate. I’m not saying that’s how u see it but to me it’s one of those things that I wouldn’t really pay any mind to so when someone does at the least it would strike me as unusual, not necessarily bad. What was going through your head when they brought their dog in the elevator? I have things I dislike too but usually I tend to bear it if it means things go smoother that way. That’s why I initially thought it was a fear .",
">\n\nReplace dogs or pets with smoking in the 50s and 60s. Say they said there's one lift where you can smoke. Someone comes into the nonsmoking lift and lights up. You don't like smoking. For whatever reason, you don't like the smell, or you end up biting the filter off or it makes you cough. But because everyone's smoking all the time, nobody objects to this guy lighting up in the nonsmoking lift.\nYou point out that there's a smoking lift, you're the asshole. You walk out the next time you see this happen and take the stairs, ding ding ding, you're the asshole again. \"I just don't want to be around the cigarette\" should be reason enough. No?",
">\n\nTell me you're a monster without telling me you're a monster.",
">\n\nTell me you don't respect people's boundaries without telling me you don't respect people's boundaries",
">\n\nShow me on the doll where the bad person touched you?"
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Does the same apply for kids? | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable.",
">\n\nYour original comment is itself not applicable and inane.",
">\n\nI feel like it doesn’t matter either, I love animals because they are life separate to humans and to me it’s fascinating to have interactions with them despite how different they are to me. I see no reason to actively dislike something causing you no harm, though.",
">\n\nI don't want to be around one. I dislike it when an animal invades my space. And this is what the vast majority of society and these comments seem to take issue with.\nI will watch animals behind a glass cage or a TV screen with as much fascination and interest as the next guy. I don't want to touch one IRL.",
">\n\nIs it like a fear? Maybe some people have a natural feeling that animals will do something to harm them? Also to animals I think they don’t see personal space as the same as us, I assume you’re talking about dogs who like to get up close to people and all that lol. What is it about societies issue with this that bothers you?",
">\n\nI don't have a fear. I just don't like being close to an animal in general. Their smell puts me off and it's just meh. When I say close, I mean interacting with one. I don't care if a dog or cat is two feet away from me and doing it's own thing.\nI'm not expecting the animal to understand it. But if I express any reservations about the animal coming too close to me, I'm viewed as the asshole.\nTo give you an example: my apartment complex had regular lifts and a service lift. Pets were meant to be taken in the service lift only but this rule was often flouted. Whatever, not my problem.\nInstance one, lady with a dog wanted to enter the regular lift. Asked if anyone had a problem, I said I did. Couple of other people in the lift gave me a dirty look and so did the dog owner. Instance two, dog owner wanted to enter the regular lift. Didn't ask this time. I figured why bother, and exited the lift. Again, dirty looks from all my lift buddies (it's a tiny lift, both times it was quite cramped, I could smell the dog and the dog wasn't tiny so it would only get more cramped). If any of these factors wasn't true, I'd have stood in that lift without a second thought.\nLike what am I supposed to do? If I point out the rule, I'm the asshole. If I go out of my way to let you do what you want with your dog, I'm still the asshole.\nThese were all entirely different people. So it's not some bad luck or whatever. You can want to identify as a panda and people will accept it, but God forbid you don't want to French a dog the second you see it.\nMy issue with society's view on this is how extreme it is. I have nothing against your pet. I want it to be happy and healthy. Just from a distance. Somehow this makes me evil.",
">\n\nI think to most people , and even to me to an extent our reaction is one of , “I don’t understand why” . And we want to figure out why obviously ,and when we look at animals we love it’s easy to view your pov as the opposite, aka hate. I’m not saying that’s how u see it but to me it’s one of those things that I wouldn’t really pay any mind to so when someone does at the least it would strike me as unusual, not necessarily bad. What was going through your head when they brought their dog in the elevator? I have things I dislike too but usually I tend to bear it if it means things go smoother that way. That’s why I initially thought it was a fear .",
">\n\nReplace dogs or pets with smoking in the 50s and 60s. Say they said there's one lift where you can smoke. Someone comes into the nonsmoking lift and lights up. You don't like smoking. For whatever reason, you don't like the smell, or you end up biting the filter off or it makes you cough. But because everyone's smoking all the time, nobody objects to this guy lighting up in the nonsmoking lift.\nYou point out that there's a smoking lift, you're the asshole. You walk out the next time you see this happen and take the stairs, ding ding ding, you're the asshole again. \"I just don't want to be around the cigarette\" should be reason enough. No?",
">\n\nTell me you're a monster without telling me you're a monster.",
">\n\nTell me you don't respect people's boundaries without telling me you don't respect people's boundaries",
">\n\nShow me on the doll where the bad person touched you?",
">\n\nAnd I'm the monster? Trivialising sexual abuse because someone wants to keep a distance from an animal?\nTake a long look in the mirror, you're disgusting."
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Are you asking about my personal opinion about kids or a more general take? | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable.",
">\n\nYour original comment is itself not applicable and inane.",
">\n\nI feel like it doesn’t matter either, I love animals because they are life separate to humans and to me it’s fascinating to have interactions with them despite how different they are to me. I see no reason to actively dislike something causing you no harm, though.",
">\n\nI don't want to be around one. I dislike it when an animal invades my space. And this is what the vast majority of society and these comments seem to take issue with.\nI will watch animals behind a glass cage or a TV screen with as much fascination and interest as the next guy. I don't want to touch one IRL.",
">\n\nIs it like a fear? Maybe some people have a natural feeling that animals will do something to harm them? Also to animals I think they don’t see personal space as the same as us, I assume you’re talking about dogs who like to get up close to people and all that lol. What is it about societies issue with this that bothers you?",
">\n\nI don't have a fear. I just don't like being close to an animal in general. Their smell puts me off and it's just meh. When I say close, I mean interacting with one. I don't care if a dog or cat is two feet away from me and doing it's own thing.\nI'm not expecting the animal to understand it. But if I express any reservations about the animal coming too close to me, I'm viewed as the asshole.\nTo give you an example: my apartment complex had regular lifts and a service lift. Pets were meant to be taken in the service lift only but this rule was often flouted. Whatever, not my problem.\nInstance one, lady with a dog wanted to enter the regular lift. Asked if anyone had a problem, I said I did. Couple of other people in the lift gave me a dirty look and so did the dog owner. Instance two, dog owner wanted to enter the regular lift. Didn't ask this time. I figured why bother, and exited the lift. Again, dirty looks from all my lift buddies (it's a tiny lift, both times it was quite cramped, I could smell the dog and the dog wasn't tiny so it would only get more cramped). If any of these factors wasn't true, I'd have stood in that lift without a second thought.\nLike what am I supposed to do? If I point out the rule, I'm the asshole. If I go out of my way to let you do what you want with your dog, I'm still the asshole.\nThese were all entirely different people. So it's not some bad luck or whatever. You can want to identify as a panda and people will accept it, but God forbid you don't want to French a dog the second you see it.\nMy issue with society's view on this is how extreme it is. I have nothing against your pet. I want it to be happy and healthy. Just from a distance. Somehow this makes me evil.",
">\n\nI think to most people , and even to me to an extent our reaction is one of , “I don’t understand why” . And we want to figure out why obviously ,and when we look at animals we love it’s easy to view your pov as the opposite, aka hate. I’m not saying that’s how u see it but to me it’s one of those things that I wouldn’t really pay any mind to so when someone does at the least it would strike me as unusual, not necessarily bad. What was going through your head when they brought their dog in the elevator? I have things I dislike too but usually I tend to bear it if it means things go smoother that way. That’s why I initially thought it was a fear .",
">\n\nReplace dogs or pets with smoking in the 50s and 60s. Say they said there's one lift where you can smoke. Someone comes into the nonsmoking lift and lights up. You don't like smoking. For whatever reason, you don't like the smell, or you end up biting the filter off or it makes you cough. But because everyone's smoking all the time, nobody objects to this guy lighting up in the nonsmoking lift.\nYou point out that there's a smoking lift, you're the asshole. You walk out the next time you see this happen and take the stairs, ding ding ding, you're the asshole again. \"I just don't want to be around the cigarette\" should be reason enough. No?",
">\n\nTell me you're a monster without telling me you're a monster.",
">\n\nTell me you don't respect people's boundaries without telling me you don't respect people's boundaries",
">\n\nShow me on the doll where the bad person touched you?",
">\n\nAnd I'm the monster? Trivialising sexual abuse because someone wants to keep a distance from an animal?\nTake a long look in the mirror, you're disgusting.",
">\n\nDoes the same apply for kids?"
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I’m also not an animal lover. I have never gotten much flack for it other than the fact that people always insist I should get a pet and that it will make me happy if I have one of my own. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable.",
">\n\nYour original comment is itself not applicable and inane.",
">\n\nI feel like it doesn’t matter either, I love animals because they are life separate to humans and to me it’s fascinating to have interactions with them despite how different they are to me. I see no reason to actively dislike something causing you no harm, though.",
">\n\nI don't want to be around one. I dislike it when an animal invades my space. And this is what the vast majority of society and these comments seem to take issue with.\nI will watch animals behind a glass cage or a TV screen with as much fascination and interest as the next guy. I don't want to touch one IRL.",
">\n\nIs it like a fear? Maybe some people have a natural feeling that animals will do something to harm them? Also to animals I think they don’t see personal space as the same as us, I assume you’re talking about dogs who like to get up close to people and all that lol. What is it about societies issue with this that bothers you?",
">\n\nI don't have a fear. I just don't like being close to an animal in general. Their smell puts me off and it's just meh. When I say close, I mean interacting with one. I don't care if a dog or cat is two feet away from me and doing it's own thing.\nI'm not expecting the animal to understand it. But if I express any reservations about the animal coming too close to me, I'm viewed as the asshole.\nTo give you an example: my apartment complex had regular lifts and a service lift. Pets were meant to be taken in the service lift only but this rule was often flouted. Whatever, not my problem.\nInstance one, lady with a dog wanted to enter the regular lift. Asked if anyone had a problem, I said I did. Couple of other people in the lift gave me a dirty look and so did the dog owner. Instance two, dog owner wanted to enter the regular lift. Didn't ask this time. I figured why bother, and exited the lift. Again, dirty looks from all my lift buddies (it's a tiny lift, both times it was quite cramped, I could smell the dog and the dog wasn't tiny so it would only get more cramped). If any of these factors wasn't true, I'd have stood in that lift without a second thought.\nLike what am I supposed to do? If I point out the rule, I'm the asshole. If I go out of my way to let you do what you want with your dog, I'm still the asshole.\nThese were all entirely different people. So it's not some bad luck or whatever. You can want to identify as a panda and people will accept it, but God forbid you don't want to French a dog the second you see it.\nMy issue with society's view on this is how extreme it is. I have nothing against your pet. I want it to be happy and healthy. Just from a distance. Somehow this makes me evil.",
">\n\nI think to most people , and even to me to an extent our reaction is one of , “I don’t understand why” . And we want to figure out why obviously ,and when we look at animals we love it’s easy to view your pov as the opposite, aka hate. I’m not saying that’s how u see it but to me it’s one of those things that I wouldn’t really pay any mind to so when someone does at the least it would strike me as unusual, not necessarily bad. What was going through your head when they brought their dog in the elevator? I have things I dislike too but usually I tend to bear it if it means things go smoother that way. That’s why I initially thought it was a fear .",
">\n\nReplace dogs or pets with smoking in the 50s and 60s. Say they said there's one lift where you can smoke. Someone comes into the nonsmoking lift and lights up. You don't like smoking. For whatever reason, you don't like the smell, or you end up biting the filter off or it makes you cough. But because everyone's smoking all the time, nobody objects to this guy lighting up in the nonsmoking lift.\nYou point out that there's a smoking lift, you're the asshole. You walk out the next time you see this happen and take the stairs, ding ding ding, you're the asshole again. \"I just don't want to be around the cigarette\" should be reason enough. No?",
">\n\nTell me you're a monster without telling me you're a monster.",
">\n\nTell me you don't respect people's boundaries without telling me you don't respect people's boundaries",
">\n\nShow me on the doll where the bad person touched you?",
">\n\nAnd I'm the monster? Trivialising sexual abuse because someone wants to keep a distance from an animal?\nTake a long look in the mirror, you're disgusting.",
">\n\nDoes the same apply for kids?",
">\n\nAre you asking about my personal opinion about kids or a more general take?"
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I've had this advice given to me and I honestly think it's the worst advice. It's so unfair to the animal to be in a home where the owner is reluctant/hesitant.
You shouldn't adopt a kid unless you 1000% want to. I think the same applies to a pet. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable.",
">\n\nYour original comment is itself not applicable and inane.",
">\n\nI feel like it doesn’t matter either, I love animals because they are life separate to humans and to me it’s fascinating to have interactions with them despite how different they are to me. I see no reason to actively dislike something causing you no harm, though.",
">\n\nI don't want to be around one. I dislike it when an animal invades my space. And this is what the vast majority of society and these comments seem to take issue with.\nI will watch animals behind a glass cage or a TV screen with as much fascination and interest as the next guy. I don't want to touch one IRL.",
">\n\nIs it like a fear? Maybe some people have a natural feeling that animals will do something to harm them? Also to animals I think they don’t see personal space as the same as us, I assume you’re talking about dogs who like to get up close to people and all that lol. What is it about societies issue with this that bothers you?",
">\n\nI don't have a fear. I just don't like being close to an animal in general. Their smell puts me off and it's just meh. When I say close, I mean interacting with one. I don't care if a dog or cat is two feet away from me and doing it's own thing.\nI'm not expecting the animal to understand it. But if I express any reservations about the animal coming too close to me, I'm viewed as the asshole.\nTo give you an example: my apartment complex had regular lifts and a service lift. Pets were meant to be taken in the service lift only but this rule was often flouted. Whatever, not my problem.\nInstance one, lady with a dog wanted to enter the regular lift. Asked if anyone had a problem, I said I did. Couple of other people in the lift gave me a dirty look and so did the dog owner. Instance two, dog owner wanted to enter the regular lift. Didn't ask this time. I figured why bother, and exited the lift. Again, dirty looks from all my lift buddies (it's a tiny lift, both times it was quite cramped, I could smell the dog and the dog wasn't tiny so it would only get more cramped). If any of these factors wasn't true, I'd have stood in that lift without a second thought.\nLike what am I supposed to do? If I point out the rule, I'm the asshole. If I go out of my way to let you do what you want with your dog, I'm still the asshole.\nThese were all entirely different people. So it's not some bad luck or whatever. You can want to identify as a panda and people will accept it, but God forbid you don't want to French a dog the second you see it.\nMy issue with society's view on this is how extreme it is. I have nothing against your pet. I want it to be happy and healthy. Just from a distance. Somehow this makes me evil.",
">\n\nI think to most people , and even to me to an extent our reaction is one of , “I don’t understand why” . And we want to figure out why obviously ,and when we look at animals we love it’s easy to view your pov as the opposite, aka hate. I’m not saying that’s how u see it but to me it’s one of those things that I wouldn’t really pay any mind to so when someone does at the least it would strike me as unusual, not necessarily bad. What was going through your head when they brought their dog in the elevator? I have things I dislike too but usually I tend to bear it if it means things go smoother that way. That’s why I initially thought it was a fear .",
">\n\nReplace dogs or pets with smoking in the 50s and 60s. Say they said there's one lift where you can smoke. Someone comes into the nonsmoking lift and lights up. You don't like smoking. For whatever reason, you don't like the smell, or you end up biting the filter off or it makes you cough. But because everyone's smoking all the time, nobody objects to this guy lighting up in the nonsmoking lift.\nYou point out that there's a smoking lift, you're the asshole. You walk out the next time you see this happen and take the stairs, ding ding ding, you're the asshole again. \"I just don't want to be around the cigarette\" should be reason enough. No?",
">\n\nTell me you're a monster without telling me you're a monster.",
">\n\nTell me you don't respect people's boundaries without telling me you don't respect people's boundaries",
">\n\nShow me on the doll where the bad person touched you?",
">\n\nAnd I'm the monster? Trivialising sexual abuse because someone wants to keep a distance from an animal?\nTake a long look in the mirror, you're disgusting.",
">\n\nDoes the same apply for kids?",
">\n\nAre you asking about my personal opinion about kids or a more general take?",
">\n\nI’m also not an animal lover. I have never gotten much flack for it other than the fact that people always insist I should get a pet and that it will make me happy if I have one of my own."
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Oh definitely. I’m not ever owning pets. No amount of people saying anything will change my mind. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable.",
">\n\nYour original comment is itself not applicable and inane.",
">\n\nI feel like it doesn’t matter either, I love animals because they are life separate to humans and to me it’s fascinating to have interactions with them despite how different they are to me. I see no reason to actively dislike something causing you no harm, though.",
">\n\nI don't want to be around one. I dislike it when an animal invades my space. And this is what the vast majority of society and these comments seem to take issue with.\nI will watch animals behind a glass cage or a TV screen with as much fascination and interest as the next guy. I don't want to touch one IRL.",
">\n\nIs it like a fear? Maybe some people have a natural feeling that animals will do something to harm them? Also to animals I think they don’t see personal space as the same as us, I assume you’re talking about dogs who like to get up close to people and all that lol. What is it about societies issue with this that bothers you?",
">\n\nI don't have a fear. I just don't like being close to an animal in general. Their smell puts me off and it's just meh. When I say close, I mean interacting with one. I don't care if a dog or cat is two feet away from me and doing it's own thing.\nI'm not expecting the animal to understand it. But if I express any reservations about the animal coming too close to me, I'm viewed as the asshole.\nTo give you an example: my apartment complex had regular lifts and a service lift. Pets were meant to be taken in the service lift only but this rule was often flouted. Whatever, not my problem.\nInstance one, lady with a dog wanted to enter the regular lift. Asked if anyone had a problem, I said I did. Couple of other people in the lift gave me a dirty look and so did the dog owner. Instance two, dog owner wanted to enter the regular lift. Didn't ask this time. I figured why bother, and exited the lift. Again, dirty looks from all my lift buddies (it's a tiny lift, both times it was quite cramped, I could smell the dog and the dog wasn't tiny so it would only get more cramped). If any of these factors wasn't true, I'd have stood in that lift without a second thought.\nLike what am I supposed to do? If I point out the rule, I'm the asshole. If I go out of my way to let you do what you want with your dog, I'm still the asshole.\nThese were all entirely different people. So it's not some bad luck or whatever. You can want to identify as a panda and people will accept it, but God forbid you don't want to French a dog the second you see it.\nMy issue with society's view on this is how extreme it is. I have nothing against your pet. I want it to be happy and healthy. Just from a distance. Somehow this makes me evil.",
">\n\nI think to most people , and even to me to an extent our reaction is one of , “I don’t understand why” . And we want to figure out why obviously ,and when we look at animals we love it’s easy to view your pov as the opposite, aka hate. I’m not saying that’s how u see it but to me it’s one of those things that I wouldn’t really pay any mind to so when someone does at the least it would strike me as unusual, not necessarily bad. What was going through your head when they brought their dog in the elevator? I have things I dislike too but usually I tend to bear it if it means things go smoother that way. That’s why I initially thought it was a fear .",
">\n\nReplace dogs or pets with smoking in the 50s and 60s. Say they said there's one lift where you can smoke. Someone comes into the nonsmoking lift and lights up. You don't like smoking. For whatever reason, you don't like the smell, or you end up biting the filter off or it makes you cough. But because everyone's smoking all the time, nobody objects to this guy lighting up in the nonsmoking lift.\nYou point out that there's a smoking lift, you're the asshole. You walk out the next time you see this happen and take the stairs, ding ding ding, you're the asshole again. \"I just don't want to be around the cigarette\" should be reason enough. No?",
">\n\nTell me you're a monster without telling me you're a monster.",
">\n\nTell me you don't respect people's boundaries without telling me you don't respect people's boundaries",
">\n\nShow me on the doll where the bad person touched you?",
">\n\nAnd I'm the monster? Trivialising sexual abuse because someone wants to keep a distance from an animal?\nTake a long look in the mirror, you're disgusting.",
">\n\nDoes the same apply for kids?",
">\n\nAre you asking about my personal opinion about kids or a more general take?",
">\n\nI’m also not an animal lover. I have never gotten much flack for it other than the fact that people always insist I should get a pet and that it will make me happy if I have one of my own.",
">\n\nI've had this advice given to me and I honestly think it's the worst advice. It's so unfair to the animal to be in a home where the owner is reluctant/hesitant.\nYou shouldn't adopt a kid unless you 1000% want to. I think the same applies to a pet."
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Humans are animals, too. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable.",
">\n\nYour original comment is itself not applicable and inane.",
">\n\nI feel like it doesn’t matter either, I love animals because they are life separate to humans and to me it’s fascinating to have interactions with them despite how different they are to me. I see no reason to actively dislike something causing you no harm, though.",
">\n\nI don't want to be around one. I dislike it when an animal invades my space. And this is what the vast majority of society and these comments seem to take issue with.\nI will watch animals behind a glass cage or a TV screen with as much fascination and interest as the next guy. I don't want to touch one IRL.",
">\n\nIs it like a fear? Maybe some people have a natural feeling that animals will do something to harm them? Also to animals I think they don’t see personal space as the same as us, I assume you’re talking about dogs who like to get up close to people and all that lol. What is it about societies issue with this that bothers you?",
">\n\nI don't have a fear. I just don't like being close to an animal in general. Their smell puts me off and it's just meh. When I say close, I mean interacting with one. I don't care if a dog or cat is two feet away from me and doing it's own thing.\nI'm not expecting the animal to understand it. But if I express any reservations about the animal coming too close to me, I'm viewed as the asshole.\nTo give you an example: my apartment complex had regular lifts and a service lift. Pets were meant to be taken in the service lift only but this rule was often flouted. Whatever, not my problem.\nInstance one, lady with a dog wanted to enter the regular lift. Asked if anyone had a problem, I said I did. Couple of other people in the lift gave me a dirty look and so did the dog owner. Instance two, dog owner wanted to enter the regular lift. Didn't ask this time. I figured why bother, and exited the lift. Again, dirty looks from all my lift buddies (it's a tiny lift, both times it was quite cramped, I could smell the dog and the dog wasn't tiny so it would only get more cramped). If any of these factors wasn't true, I'd have stood in that lift without a second thought.\nLike what am I supposed to do? If I point out the rule, I'm the asshole. If I go out of my way to let you do what you want with your dog, I'm still the asshole.\nThese were all entirely different people. So it's not some bad luck or whatever. You can want to identify as a panda and people will accept it, but God forbid you don't want to French a dog the second you see it.\nMy issue with society's view on this is how extreme it is. I have nothing against your pet. I want it to be happy and healthy. Just from a distance. Somehow this makes me evil.",
">\n\nI think to most people , and even to me to an extent our reaction is one of , “I don’t understand why” . And we want to figure out why obviously ,and when we look at animals we love it’s easy to view your pov as the opposite, aka hate. I’m not saying that’s how u see it but to me it’s one of those things that I wouldn’t really pay any mind to so when someone does at the least it would strike me as unusual, not necessarily bad. What was going through your head when they brought their dog in the elevator? I have things I dislike too but usually I tend to bear it if it means things go smoother that way. That’s why I initially thought it was a fear .",
">\n\nReplace dogs or pets with smoking in the 50s and 60s. Say they said there's one lift where you can smoke. Someone comes into the nonsmoking lift and lights up. You don't like smoking. For whatever reason, you don't like the smell, or you end up biting the filter off or it makes you cough. But because everyone's smoking all the time, nobody objects to this guy lighting up in the nonsmoking lift.\nYou point out that there's a smoking lift, you're the asshole. You walk out the next time you see this happen and take the stairs, ding ding ding, you're the asshole again. \"I just don't want to be around the cigarette\" should be reason enough. No?",
">\n\nTell me you're a monster without telling me you're a monster.",
">\n\nTell me you don't respect people's boundaries without telling me you don't respect people's boundaries",
">\n\nShow me on the doll where the bad person touched you?",
">\n\nAnd I'm the monster? Trivialising sexual abuse because someone wants to keep a distance from an animal?\nTake a long look in the mirror, you're disgusting.",
">\n\nDoes the same apply for kids?",
">\n\nAre you asking about my personal opinion about kids or a more general take?",
">\n\nI’m also not an animal lover. I have never gotten much flack for it other than the fact that people always insist I should get a pet and that it will make me happy if I have one of my own.",
">\n\nI've had this advice given to me and I honestly think it's the worst advice. It's so unfair to the animal to be in a home where the owner is reluctant/hesitant.\nYou shouldn't adopt a kid unless you 1000% want to. I think the same applies to a pet.",
">\n\nOh definitely. I’m not ever owning pets. No amount of people saying anything will change my mind."
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many smart people like animals a lot more than they like people. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable.",
">\n\nYour original comment is itself not applicable and inane.",
">\n\nI feel like it doesn’t matter either, I love animals because they are life separate to humans and to me it’s fascinating to have interactions with them despite how different they are to me. I see no reason to actively dislike something causing you no harm, though.",
">\n\nI don't want to be around one. I dislike it when an animal invades my space. And this is what the vast majority of society and these comments seem to take issue with.\nI will watch animals behind a glass cage or a TV screen with as much fascination and interest as the next guy. I don't want to touch one IRL.",
">\n\nIs it like a fear? Maybe some people have a natural feeling that animals will do something to harm them? Also to animals I think they don’t see personal space as the same as us, I assume you’re talking about dogs who like to get up close to people and all that lol. What is it about societies issue with this that bothers you?",
">\n\nI don't have a fear. I just don't like being close to an animal in general. Their smell puts me off and it's just meh. When I say close, I mean interacting with one. I don't care if a dog or cat is two feet away from me and doing it's own thing.\nI'm not expecting the animal to understand it. But if I express any reservations about the animal coming too close to me, I'm viewed as the asshole.\nTo give you an example: my apartment complex had regular lifts and a service lift. Pets were meant to be taken in the service lift only but this rule was often flouted. Whatever, not my problem.\nInstance one, lady with a dog wanted to enter the regular lift. Asked if anyone had a problem, I said I did. Couple of other people in the lift gave me a dirty look and so did the dog owner. Instance two, dog owner wanted to enter the regular lift. Didn't ask this time. I figured why bother, and exited the lift. Again, dirty looks from all my lift buddies (it's a tiny lift, both times it was quite cramped, I could smell the dog and the dog wasn't tiny so it would only get more cramped). If any of these factors wasn't true, I'd have stood in that lift without a second thought.\nLike what am I supposed to do? If I point out the rule, I'm the asshole. If I go out of my way to let you do what you want with your dog, I'm still the asshole.\nThese were all entirely different people. So it's not some bad luck or whatever. You can want to identify as a panda and people will accept it, but God forbid you don't want to French a dog the second you see it.\nMy issue with society's view on this is how extreme it is. I have nothing against your pet. I want it to be happy and healthy. Just from a distance. Somehow this makes me evil.",
">\n\nI think to most people , and even to me to an extent our reaction is one of , “I don’t understand why” . And we want to figure out why obviously ,and when we look at animals we love it’s easy to view your pov as the opposite, aka hate. I’m not saying that’s how u see it but to me it’s one of those things that I wouldn’t really pay any mind to so when someone does at the least it would strike me as unusual, not necessarily bad. What was going through your head when they brought their dog in the elevator? I have things I dislike too but usually I tend to bear it if it means things go smoother that way. That’s why I initially thought it was a fear .",
">\n\nReplace dogs or pets with smoking in the 50s and 60s. Say they said there's one lift where you can smoke. Someone comes into the nonsmoking lift and lights up. You don't like smoking. For whatever reason, you don't like the smell, or you end up biting the filter off or it makes you cough. But because everyone's smoking all the time, nobody objects to this guy lighting up in the nonsmoking lift.\nYou point out that there's a smoking lift, you're the asshole. You walk out the next time you see this happen and take the stairs, ding ding ding, you're the asshole again. \"I just don't want to be around the cigarette\" should be reason enough. No?",
">\n\nTell me you're a monster without telling me you're a monster.",
">\n\nTell me you don't respect people's boundaries without telling me you don't respect people's boundaries",
">\n\nShow me on the doll where the bad person touched you?",
">\n\nAnd I'm the monster? Trivialising sexual abuse because someone wants to keep a distance from an animal?\nTake a long look in the mirror, you're disgusting.",
">\n\nDoes the same apply for kids?",
">\n\nAre you asking about my personal opinion about kids or a more general take?",
">\n\nI’m also not an animal lover. I have never gotten much flack for it other than the fact that people always insist I should get a pet and that it will make me happy if I have one of my own.",
">\n\nI've had this advice given to me and I honestly think it's the worst advice. It's so unfair to the animal to be in a home where the owner is reluctant/hesitant.\nYou shouldn't adopt a kid unless you 1000% want to. I think the same applies to a pet.",
">\n\nOh definitely. I’m not ever owning pets. No amount of people saying anything will change my mind.",
">\n\nHumans are animals, too."
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Wow, I almost replied before I read the second part. Um, what animals that are you refering to when you say the only interaction you want with an animal is when it’s dead and cooked on your plate? 😅 A lot of cultures eat different animals so I’m really hoping you’ll clarify for me. | [
"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable.",
">\n\nYour original comment is itself not applicable and inane.",
">\n\nI feel like it doesn’t matter either, I love animals because they are life separate to humans and to me it’s fascinating to have interactions with them despite how different they are to me. I see no reason to actively dislike something causing you no harm, though.",
">\n\nI don't want to be around one. I dislike it when an animal invades my space. And this is what the vast majority of society and these comments seem to take issue with.\nI will watch animals behind a glass cage or a TV screen with as much fascination and interest as the next guy. I don't want to touch one IRL.",
">\n\nIs it like a fear? Maybe some people have a natural feeling that animals will do something to harm them? Also to animals I think they don’t see personal space as the same as us, I assume you’re talking about dogs who like to get up close to people and all that lol. What is it about societies issue with this that bothers you?",
">\n\nI don't have a fear. I just don't like being close to an animal in general. Their smell puts me off and it's just meh. When I say close, I mean interacting with one. I don't care if a dog or cat is two feet away from me and doing it's own thing.\nI'm not expecting the animal to understand it. But if I express any reservations about the animal coming too close to me, I'm viewed as the asshole.\nTo give you an example: my apartment complex had regular lifts and a service lift. Pets were meant to be taken in the service lift only but this rule was often flouted. Whatever, not my problem.\nInstance one, lady with a dog wanted to enter the regular lift. Asked if anyone had a problem, I said I did. Couple of other people in the lift gave me a dirty look and so did the dog owner. Instance two, dog owner wanted to enter the regular lift. Didn't ask this time. I figured why bother, and exited the lift. Again, dirty looks from all my lift buddies (it's a tiny lift, both times it was quite cramped, I could smell the dog and the dog wasn't tiny so it would only get more cramped). If any of these factors wasn't true, I'd have stood in that lift without a second thought.\nLike what am I supposed to do? If I point out the rule, I'm the asshole. If I go out of my way to let you do what you want with your dog, I'm still the asshole.\nThese were all entirely different people. So it's not some bad luck or whatever. You can want to identify as a panda and people will accept it, but God forbid you don't want to French a dog the second you see it.\nMy issue with society's view on this is how extreme it is. I have nothing against your pet. I want it to be happy and healthy. Just from a distance. Somehow this makes me evil.",
">\n\nI think to most people , and even to me to an extent our reaction is one of , “I don’t understand why” . And we want to figure out why obviously ,and when we look at animals we love it’s easy to view your pov as the opposite, aka hate. I’m not saying that’s how u see it but to me it’s one of those things that I wouldn’t really pay any mind to so when someone does at the least it would strike me as unusual, not necessarily bad. What was going through your head when they brought their dog in the elevator? I have things I dislike too but usually I tend to bear it if it means things go smoother that way. That’s why I initially thought it was a fear .",
">\n\nReplace dogs or pets with smoking in the 50s and 60s. Say they said there's one lift where you can smoke. Someone comes into the nonsmoking lift and lights up. You don't like smoking. For whatever reason, you don't like the smell, or you end up biting the filter off or it makes you cough. But because everyone's smoking all the time, nobody objects to this guy lighting up in the nonsmoking lift.\nYou point out that there's a smoking lift, you're the asshole. You walk out the next time you see this happen and take the stairs, ding ding ding, you're the asshole again. \"I just don't want to be around the cigarette\" should be reason enough. No?",
">\n\nTell me you're a monster without telling me you're a monster.",
">\n\nTell me you don't respect people's boundaries without telling me you don't respect people's boundaries",
">\n\nShow me on the doll where the bad person touched you?",
">\n\nAnd I'm the monster? Trivialising sexual abuse because someone wants to keep a distance from an animal?\nTake a long look in the mirror, you're disgusting.",
">\n\nDoes the same apply for kids?",
">\n\nAre you asking about my personal opinion about kids or a more general take?",
">\n\nI’m also not an animal lover. I have never gotten much flack for it other than the fact that people always insist I should get a pet and that it will make me happy if I have one of my own.",
">\n\nI've had this advice given to me and I honestly think it's the worst advice. It's so unfair to the animal to be in a home where the owner is reluctant/hesitant.\nYou shouldn't adopt a kid unless you 1000% want to. I think the same applies to a pet.",
">\n\nOh definitely. I’m not ever owning pets. No amount of people saying anything will change my mind.",
">\n\nHumans are animals, too.",
">\n\nmany smart people like animals a lot more than they like people."
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"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable.",
">\n\nYour original comment is itself not applicable and inane.",
">\n\nI feel like it doesn’t matter either, I love animals because they are life separate to humans and to me it’s fascinating to have interactions with them despite how different they are to me. I see no reason to actively dislike something causing you no harm, though.",
">\n\nI don't want to be around one. I dislike it when an animal invades my space. And this is what the vast majority of society and these comments seem to take issue with.\nI will watch animals behind a glass cage or a TV screen with as much fascination and interest as the next guy. I don't want to touch one IRL.",
">\n\nIs it like a fear? Maybe some people have a natural feeling that animals will do something to harm them? Also to animals I think they don’t see personal space as the same as us, I assume you’re talking about dogs who like to get up close to people and all that lol. What is it about societies issue with this that bothers you?",
">\n\nI don't have a fear. I just don't like being close to an animal in general. Their smell puts me off and it's just meh. When I say close, I mean interacting with one. I don't care if a dog or cat is two feet away from me and doing it's own thing.\nI'm not expecting the animal to understand it. But if I express any reservations about the animal coming too close to me, I'm viewed as the asshole.\nTo give you an example: my apartment complex had regular lifts and a service lift. Pets were meant to be taken in the service lift only but this rule was often flouted. Whatever, not my problem.\nInstance one, lady with a dog wanted to enter the regular lift. Asked if anyone had a problem, I said I did. Couple of other people in the lift gave me a dirty look and so did the dog owner. Instance two, dog owner wanted to enter the regular lift. Didn't ask this time. I figured why bother, and exited the lift. Again, dirty looks from all my lift buddies (it's a tiny lift, both times it was quite cramped, I could smell the dog and the dog wasn't tiny so it would only get more cramped). If any of these factors wasn't true, I'd have stood in that lift without a second thought.\nLike what am I supposed to do? If I point out the rule, I'm the asshole. If I go out of my way to let you do what you want with your dog, I'm still the asshole.\nThese were all entirely different people. So it's not some bad luck or whatever. You can want to identify as a panda and people will accept it, but God forbid you don't want to French a dog the second you see it.\nMy issue with society's view on this is how extreme it is. I have nothing against your pet. I want it to be happy and healthy. Just from a distance. Somehow this makes me evil.",
">\n\nI think to most people , and even to me to an extent our reaction is one of , “I don’t understand why” . And we want to figure out why obviously ,and when we look at animals we love it’s easy to view your pov as the opposite, aka hate. I’m not saying that’s how u see it but to me it’s one of those things that I wouldn’t really pay any mind to so when someone does at the least it would strike me as unusual, not necessarily bad. What was going through your head when they brought their dog in the elevator? I have things I dislike too but usually I tend to bear it if it means things go smoother that way. That’s why I initially thought it was a fear .",
">\n\nReplace dogs or pets with smoking in the 50s and 60s. Say they said there's one lift where you can smoke. Someone comes into the nonsmoking lift and lights up. You don't like smoking. For whatever reason, you don't like the smell, or you end up biting the filter off or it makes you cough. But because everyone's smoking all the time, nobody objects to this guy lighting up in the nonsmoking lift.\nYou point out that there's a smoking lift, you're the asshole. You walk out the next time you see this happen and take the stairs, ding ding ding, you're the asshole again. \"I just don't want to be around the cigarette\" should be reason enough. No?",
">\n\nTell me you're a monster without telling me you're a monster.",
">\n\nTell me you don't respect people's boundaries without telling me you don't respect people's boundaries",
">\n\nShow me on the doll where the bad person touched you?",
">\n\nAnd I'm the monster? Trivialising sexual abuse because someone wants to keep a distance from an animal?\nTake a long look in the mirror, you're disgusting.",
">\n\nDoes the same apply for kids?",
">\n\nAre you asking about my personal opinion about kids or a more general take?",
">\n\nI’m also not an animal lover. I have never gotten much flack for it other than the fact that people always insist I should get a pet and that it will make me happy if I have one of my own.",
">\n\nI've had this advice given to me and I honestly think it's the worst advice. It's so unfair to the animal to be in a home where the owner is reluctant/hesitant.\nYou shouldn't adopt a kid unless you 1000% want to. I think the same applies to a pet.",
">\n\nOh definitely. I’m not ever owning pets. No amount of people saying anything will change my mind.",
">\n\nHumans are animals, too.",
">\n\nmany smart people like animals a lot more than they like people.",
">\n\nWow, I almost replied before I read the second part. Um, what animals that are you refering to when you say the only interaction you want with an animal is when it’s dead and cooked on your plate? 😅 A lot of cultures eat different animals so I’m really hoping you’ll clarify for me."
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"There are plenty of people that like animals even more than humans with bland justifications like 'human bad, animal innocent and good'\nI'd say they're a worse type of person than those that don't like animals",
">\n\nFirst off sir, pie o my was a beautiful horse.",
">\n\nThank you. My mother and my husband did not like animals, so it bothers me to hear negative, offensive things about people who don't.\nCome to think of it, I might put myself in that category as well, because while I don't dislike animals, I don't actively like them either. I'm indifferent to them.",
">\n\nYou can measure a man more by how he treats his lessers than his equals.",
">\n\nVery true.\nWhat people can't seem to wrap their head around is that me not wanting to interact with an animal is not the same as me wanting it dead, hurt, sick or even unhappy.\nI'll watch a nature documentary and go to the zoo. I'll smile at you frolicking with your dog. I don't want to pet your dog, nor do I want to be licked by your dog. Somehow, that boundary is unacceptable in society nowadays lol.",
">\n\nI think as long as you treat them with respect it doesn’t matter if you like them or not.",
">\n\nIdk treatment and attitudes toward children and animals are frequently indicators of personality dysfunction in people. Not universally or without nuance but….yeah, I think it’s fair to proceed cautiously with people with your attitude until you get to know them. Sorry, satan.",
">\n\nLol, so if I don't enjoy having an animal throw itself at me, I'm Satan?\nAnd I find it deeply concerning that two people have now bucketed treatment of human children and animals together.",
">\n\nMostly because it's scientific. A cat's meow has adapted to mimic a human baby's cry as to illicit a protection response from humans. And there is evidence that when looking at animals (especially domesticated animals), the same parts of the brain light up as when looking at children. \nLike you may not like it, but science does indicate that a person's response to animals is not all that far off from their feeling towards children or other humans.",
">\n\nWell, first if you read what my stance is, it's that I don't want to interact (as in physically touch) the animal. I don't want to kill a cat or dog the moment I see it lol. I'm indifferent.\nKids? Love them. Get along great with them (kids of friends, cousins etc). Adult humans? Sure. Animals? Two feet away? Great. At my feet or licking me? No.\nI don't think my feelings contradict what the science is saying and no scientific experiment will yield a 100% success rate anyway so there can and will be exceptions.",
">\n\nSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hated animals, only that the reason people have the feelings of unease around people who don't \"like\" animals is founded in science, and that lumping children and animals (particular animals traditionally considered pets) is not actually that weird scientifically speaking in this case. How you classify \"liking\" animals is definitely subjective.",
">\n\nFair enough. I appreciate your clarification. I take issue with that unease even if it has a basis in logic simply because it's not a 100% empirical truth.\nAgain, expressing the dislike should be a stronger basis than the existence of dislike itself. I'd be in the same camp as most animal lovers if I were to meet someone who kicked a cat or pushed them away roughly. I empathize with someone who just freezes when an animal is in close proximity.\nBoth are dislike/unease/discomfort. The latter is judged more harshly than it should is my stance (merely reiterating this, not saying you were for or against it)",
">\n\n“Unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous” is literally how i would describe humans lol",
">\n\nExcept if a human were to throw themselves on you, you could press charges and they'd be arrested (hopefully) lol.\n(I am not saying animals should be arrested or punished for doing this)",
">\n\nDepending on severity and frequency, the animal would probably be put down. Many animals are when they haven’t done anything at all. Tbf.",
">\n\nThe death of an innocent is always a tragedy.",
">\n\nI find people unhygienic, gross and potentially dangerous.",
">\n\nSomeone already beat you to this insight",
">\n\nOkay. Well, my cat probably doesn’t want to be around you either.",
">\n\nOne of the reasons I prefer them to dogs",
">\n\nHere's the thing, in today's society, there is no room to have indifferent opinions about something like that. No matter what, you will be pressured to love or hate something depending on what you say about it. If you say, 'I don't really like animals, but I can't say anything bad about them', you will have two armies at your poles. One will try to pull you in to make you truly hate them, the other side will think you're already there, and battle you too.\nI noticed this with kids and families, as well as animals. It's something I speak about a lot. I hear how many people don't 'like' but don't 'hate' them, but soon will someone fly past and polarize that thought. I had a discussion with two people once, where I expressed my affiliation with prominence of family. One of them said this; they never found themselves ready to have a family, but could not fault anyone else for feeling otherwise. The other, however, could not stand the fact. Somewhere in the middle where I spoke to both of them, they started fighting. The angry one tried to push the other out in front with the same angered motive.\nSimply put, there's a lot of hatred and fanaticism in this world today and it plagues the middle-ground people. It's the same as politics. Exactly. If you are neither a crazy liberal or a block-headed conservative, one of them is going to try and capture you like an HVT. In today's society, everyone is fighting a social war and blank assets are paramount.\nThe best thing you can do, honestly, is to not act halfway one way or the other, if you show any sign of that, one of those sides is gonna get you. I won't condone just fleeing to either side, but the few things I feel null about I don't even speak about. It's not worth my effort because I don't give a shit about those topics, and it's a tactical move to avoid being sucked into a war.",
">\n\nI love animals. They’re delicious!",
">\n\nIt is generally a good indicator that someone will be a bad person. Likewise, people who dislike children are usually not good people either.",
">\n\nThis I believe is true. The specifics of human empathy apply here. Seeing people who will dislike at any rate, children or animals, it shows they have the capacity to wish harm upon people as a whole. Showing negativity to generally 'good' things or people, just like animals and children, can imply (but honestly not yet prove) a total negative personality. \nIt is common to feel negativity to other negative people, but because we are socially thriving beings, showing negativity to positive and enlightening beings is a sign of poor character. That's simply it.",
">\n\nIt's like people can't or won't read. Not wanting to be around an animal is not the same as wanting to cause it harm. I have outlined it several times. Classifying all animals as \"good\" or \"positive\" is just bizarre.\nAnd again, Jesus, why are kids and animals being bucketed together?! They're completely different entities.",
">\n\nnote my original comment and you will see why this is not applicable.",
">\n\nYour original comment is itself not applicable and inane.",
">\n\nI feel like it doesn’t matter either, I love animals because they are life separate to humans and to me it’s fascinating to have interactions with them despite how different they are to me. I see no reason to actively dislike something causing you no harm, though.",
">\n\nI don't want to be around one. I dislike it when an animal invades my space. And this is what the vast majority of society and these comments seem to take issue with.\nI will watch animals behind a glass cage or a TV screen with as much fascination and interest as the next guy. I don't want to touch one IRL.",
">\n\nIs it like a fear? Maybe some people have a natural feeling that animals will do something to harm them? Also to animals I think they don’t see personal space as the same as us, I assume you’re talking about dogs who like to get up close to people and all that lol. What is it about societies issue with this that bothers you?",
">\n\nI don't have a fear. I just don't like being close to an animal in general. Their smell puts me off and it's just meh. When I say close, I mean interacting with one. I don't care if a dog or cat is two feet away from me and doing it's own thing.\nI'm not expecting the animal to understand it. But if I express any reservations about the animal coming too close to me, I'm viewed as the asshole.\nTo give you an example: my apartment complex had regular lifts and a service lift. Pets were meant to be taken in the service lift only but this rule was often flouted. Whatever, not my problem.\nInstance one, lady with a dog wanted to enter the regular lift. Asked if anyone had a problem, I said I did. Couple of other people in the lift gave me a dirty look and so did the dog owner. Instance two, dog owner wanted to enter the regular lift. Didn't ask this time. I figured why bother, and exited the lift. Again, dirty looks from all my lift buddies (it's a tiny lift, both times it was quite cramped, I could smell the dog and the dog wasn't tiny so it would only get more cramped). If any of these factors wasn't true, I'd have stood in that lift without a second thought.\nLike what am I supposed to do? If I point out the rule, I'm the asshole. If I go out of my way to let you do what you want with your dog, I'm still the asshole.\nThese were all entirely different people. So it's not some bad luck or whatever. You can want to identify as a panda and people will accept it, but God forbid you don't want to French a dog the second you see it.\nMy issue with society's view on this is how extreme it is. I have nothing against your pet. I want it to be happy and healthy. Just from a distance. Somehow this makes me evil.",
">\n\nI think to most people , and even to me to an extent our reaction is one of , “I don’t understand why” . And we want to figure out why obviously ,and when we look at animals we love it’s easy to view your pov as the opposite, aka hate. I’m not saying that’s how u see it but to me it’s one of those things that I wouldn’t really pay any mind to so when someone does at the least it would strike me as unusual, not necessarily bad. What was going through your head when they brought their dog in the elevator? I have things I dislike too but usually I tend to bear it if it means things go smoother that way. That’s why I initially thought it was a fear .",
">\n\nReplace dogs or pets with smoking in the 50s and 60s. Say they said there's one lift where you can smoke. Someone comes into the nonsmoking lift and lights up. You don't like smoking. For whatever reason, you don't like the smell, or you end up biting the filter off or it makes you cough. But because everyone's smoking all the time, nobody objects to this guy lighting up in the nonsmoking lift.\nYou point out that there's a smoking lift, you're the asshole. You walk out the next time you see this happen and take the stairs, ding ding ding, you're the asshole again. \"I just don't want to be around the cigarette\" should be reason enough. No?",
">\n\nTell me you're a monster without telling me you're a monster.",
">\n\nTell me you don't respect people's boundaries without telling me you don't respect people's boundaries",
">\n\nShow me on the doll where the bad person touched you?",
">\n\nAnd I'm the monster? Trivialising sexual abuse because someone wants to keep a distance from an animal?\nTake a long look in the mirror, you're disgusting.",
">\n\nDoes the same apply for kids?",
">\n\nAre you asking about my personal opinion about kids or a more general take?",
">\n\nI’m also not an animal lover. I have never gotten much flack for it other than the fact that people always insist I should get a pet and that it will make me happy if I have one of my own.",
">\n\nI've had this advice given to me and I honestly think it's the worst advice. It's so unfair to the animal to be in a home where the owner is reluctant/hesitant.\nYou shouldn't adopt a kid unless you 1000% want to. I think the same applies to a pet.",
">\n\nOh definitely. I’m not ever owning pets. No amount of people saying anything will change my mind.",
">\n\nHumans are animals, too.",
">\n\nmany smart people like animals a lot more than they like people.",
">\n\nWow, I almost replied before I read the second part. Um, what animals that are you refering to when you say the only interaction you want with an animal is when it’s dead and cooked on your plate? 😅 A lot of cultures eat different animals so I’m really hoping you’ll clarify for me.",
">\n\nTotally get you. I don't like pets and animals in general, but I love looking at their funny antics on videos or documentaries. What I especially dislike about them is how unpredictable they can be and their smell."
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According to the WHO, the cough syrups contained "unacceptable" amounts of diethylene glycol and /or ethylene glycol as contaminants. "Levels varied for specific details of laboratory tests," it added.
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"Crucial part:\n\nAccording to the WHO, the cough syrups contained \"unacceptable\" amounts of diethylene glycol and /or ethylene glycol as contaminants. \"Levels varied for specific details of laboratory tests,\" it added.\n\nEthylene Glycol.\nDiethylene Glycol.\nAnti-Freeze. They made kids drink anti-freeze.",
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Exactly. Not everything in the world revolves around your republican/ democrat bullshit. Tired of seeing those comments everywhere on every comment. | [
"Crucial part:\n\nAccording to the WHO, the cough syrups contained \"unacceptable\" amounts of diethylene glycol and /or ethylene glycol as contaminants. \"Levels varied for specific details of laboratory tests,\" it added.\n\nEthylene Glycol.\nDiethylene Glycol.\nAnti-Freeze. They made kids drink anti-freeze.",
">\n\nIt’s a Republicans wet dream. No regulations. If your product is killing people then you’ll just go out of business because people stop buying your product.",
">\n\nwhy do americans have to bring their shit politics into everything, it’s not even relevant"
] |
>
American here and I agree. Its exhausting. | [
"Crucial part:\n\nAccording to the WHO, the cough syrups contained \"unacceptable\" amounts of diethylene glycol and /or ethylene glycol as contaminants. \"Levels varied for specific details of laboratory tests,\" it added.\n\nEthylene Glycol.\nDiethylene Glycol.\nAnti-Freeze. They made kids drink anti-freeze.",
">\n\nIt’s a Republicans wet dream. No regulations. If your product is killing people then you’ll just go out of business because people stop buying your product.",
">\n\nwhy do americans have to bring their shit politics into everything, it’s not even relevant",
">\n\nExactly. Not everything in the world revolves around your republican/ democrat bullshit. Tired of seeing those comments everywhere on every comment."
] |
>
You don't understand America regulated this in the US after the exact same thing happened almost 100 years ago?
It's not complicated, it's just fools whose brains are incapable of connecting dots from point a to point b. | [
"Crucial part:\n\nAccording to the WHO, the cough syrups contained \"unacceptable\" amounts of diethylene glycol and /or ethylene glycol as contaminants. \"Levels varied for specific details of laboratory tests,\" it added.\n\nEthylene Glycol.\nDiethylene Glycol.\nAnti-Freeze. They made kids drink anti-freeze.",
">\n\nIt’s a Republicans wet dream. No regulations. If your product is killing people then you’ll just go out of business because people stop buying your product.",
">\n\nwhy do americans have to bring their shit politics into everything, it’s not even relevant",
">\n\nExactly. Not everything in the world revolves around your republican/ democrat bullshit. Tired of seeing those comments everywhere on every comment.",
">\n\nAmerican here and I agree. Its exhausting."
] |
>
So what the fuck does India doing it now have to do with the us politics.
It’s idiots who only care about themselves and their political leanings to get internet points who make us political comments on topics that have nothing to do with it. | [
"Crucial part:\n\nAccording to the WHO, the cough syrups contained \"unacceptable\" amounts of diethylene glycol and /or ethylene glycol as contaminants. \"Levels varied for specific details of laboratory tests,\" it added.\n\nEthylene Glycol.\nDiethylene Glycol.\nAnti-Freeze. They made kids drink anti-freeze.",
">\n\nIt’s a Republicans wet dream. No regulations. If your product is killing people then you’ll just go out of business because people stop buying your product.",
">\n\nwhy do americans have to bring their shit politics into everything, it’s not even relevant",
">\n\nExactly. Not everything in the world revolves around your republican/ democrat bullshit. Tired of seeing those comments everywhere on every comment.",
">\n\nAmerican here and I agree. Its exhausting.",
">\n\nYou don't understand America regulated this in the US after the exact same thing happened almost 100 years ago? \nIt's not complicated, it's just fools whose brains are incapable of connecting dots from point a to point b."
] |
>
Republicans love spouting free market principles... no regulations because the people are smart. This is what a lack of regulation nets you. Bodies. Still obtusely pretending this isn't conservative rhetoric 101 or that you are tired of politics, doesn't make you moderate... It makes you stupid. | [
"Crucial part:\n\nAccording to the WHO, the cough syrups contained \"unacceptable\" amounts of diethylene glycol and /or ethylene glycol as contaminants. \"Levels varied for specific details of laboratory tests,\" it added.\n\nEthylene Glycol.\nDiethylene Glycol.\nAnti-Freeze. They made kids drink anti-freeze.",
">\n\nIt’s a Republicans wet dream. No regulations. If your product is killing people then you’ll just go out of business because people stop buying your product.",
">\n\nwhy do americans have to bring their shit politics into everything, it’s not even relevant",
">\n\nExactly. Not everything in the world revolves around your republican/ democrat bullshit. Tired of seeing those comments everywhere on every comment.",
">\n\nAmerican here and I agree. Its exhausting.",
">\n\nYou don't understand America regulated this in the US after the exact same thing happened almost 100 years ago? \nIt's not complicated, it's just fools whose brains are incapable of connecting dots from point a to point b.",
">\n\nSo what the fuck does India doing it now have to do with the us politics.\nIt’s idiots who only care about themselves and their political leanings to get internet points who make us political comments on topics that have nothing to do with it."
] |
>
This is India, not the US. | [
"Crucial part:\n\nAccording to the WHO, the cough syrups contained \"unacceptable\" amounts of diethylene glycol and /or ethylene glycol as contaminants. \"Levels varied for specific details of laboratory tests,\" it added.\n\nEthylene Glycol.\nDiethylene Glycol.\nAnti-Freeze. They made kids drink anti-freeze.",
">\n\nIt’s a Republicans wet dream. No regulations. If your product is killing people then you’ll just go out of business because people stop buying your product.",
">\n\nwhy do americans have to bring their shit politics into everything, it’s not even relevant",
">\n\nExactly. Not everything in the world revolves around your republican/ democrat bullshit. Tired of seeing those comments everywhere on every comment.",
">\n\nAmerican here and I agree. Its exhausting.",
">\n\nYou don't understand America regulated this in the US after the exact same thing happened almost 100 years ago? \nIt's not complicated, it's just fools whose brains are incapable of connecting dots from point a to point b.",
">\n\nSo what the fuck does India doing it now have to do with the us politics.\nIt’s idiots who only care about themselves and their political leanings to get internet points who make us political comments on topics that have nothing to do with it.",
">\n\nRepublicans love spouting free market principles... no regulations because the people are smart. This is what a lack of regulation nets you. Bodies. Still obtusely pretending this isn't conservative rhetoric 101 or that you are tired of politics, doesn't make you moderate... It makes you stupid."
] |
>
Yep, and 90 years ago....that was the US. Then, we regulated our corporations. So someone highlighting that fact, then highlighting Republicans rhetoric, leads one to conclude they are fine with this outcome. Which we know they are. Just giving more examples of how coded racism masked as idealism, leads to these outcomes. | [
"Crucial part:\n\nAccording to the WHO, the cough syrups contained \"unacceptable\" amounts of diethylene glycol and /or ethylene glycol as contaminants. \"Levels varied for specific details of laboratory tests,\" it added.\n\nEthylene Glycol.\nDiethylene Glycol.\nAnti-Freeze. They made kids drink anti-freeze.",
">\n\nIt’s a Republicans wet dream. No regulations. If your product is killing people then you’ll just go out of business because people stop buying your product.",
">\n\nwhy do americans have to bring their shit politics into everything, it’s not even relevant",
">\n\nExactly. Not everything in the world revolves around your republican/ democrat bullshit. Tired of seeing those comments everywhere on every comment.",
">\n\nAmerican here and I agree. Its exhausting.",
">\n\nYou don't understand America regulated this in the US after the exact same thing happened almost 100 years ago? \nIt's not complicated, it's just fools whose brains are incapable of connecting dots from point a to point b.",
">\n\nSo what the fuck does India doing it now have to do with the us politics.\nIt’s idiots who only care about themselves and their political leanings to get internet points who make us political comments on topics that have nothing to do with it.",
">\n\nRepublicans love spouting free market principles... no regulations because the people are smart. This is what a lack of regulation nets you. Bodies. Still obtusely pretending this isn't conservative rhetoric 101 or that you are tired of politics, doesn't make you moderate... It makes you stupid.",
">\n\nThis is India, not the US."
] |
>
The countries this happened in are Gambia, Indonesia and Uzbekistan. There are four additional countries where this cough syrup might have been sold: Cambodia, the Philippines, East Timor and Senegal. This has been going on since JULY 2022. | [
"Crucial part:\n\nAccording to the WHO, the cough syrups contained \"unacceptable\" amounts of diethylene glycol and /or ethylene glycol as contaminants. \"Levels varied for specific details of laboratory tests,\" it added.\n\nEthylene Glycol.\nDiethylene Glycol.\nAnti-Freeze. They made kids drink anti-freeze.",
">\n\nIt’s a Republicans wet dream. No regulations. If your product is killing people then you’ll just go out of business because people stop buying your product.",
">\n\nwhy do americans have to bring their shit politics into everything, it’s not even relevant",
">\n\nExactly. Not everything in the world revolves around your republican/ democrat bullshit. Tired of seeing those comments everywhere on every comment.",
">\n\nAmerican here and I agree. Its exhausting.",
">\n\nYou don't understand America regulated this in the US after the exact same thing happened almost 100 years ago? \nIt's not complicated, it's just fools whose brains are incapable of connecting dots from point a to point b.",
">\n\nSo what the fuck does India doing it now have to do with the us politics.\nIt’s idiots who only care about themselves and their political leanings to get internet points who make us political comments on topics that have nothing to do with it.",
">\n\nRepublicans love spouting free market principles... no regulations because the people are smart. This is what a lack of regulation nets you. Bodies. Still obtusely pretending this isn't conservative rhetoric 101 or that you are tired of politics, doesn't make you moderate... It makes you stupid.",
">\n\nThis is India, not the US.",
">\n\nYep, and 90 years ago....that was the US. Then, we regulated our corporations. So someone highlighting that fact, then highlighting Republicans rhetoric, leads one to conclude they are fine with this outcome. Which we know they are. Just giving more examples of how coded racism masked as idealism, leads to these outcomes."
] |
>
Long story short:
So far it said that across the three countries where this issue has been reported since August 2022
The poorer nations (Gambia, Uzbekistan and Indonesia) bought the cheaper, unregulated ones from a couple of Indian companies (Marion Biotech and Maiden Pharmaceuticals) and the children died because of it.
WHO also issued a warning last year for cough syrups made by four Indonesian manufacturers, PT Yarindo Farmatama, PT Universal Pharmaceutical, PT Konimex and PT AFI Pharma, that were sold domestically. | [
"Crucial part:\n\nAccording to the WHO, the cough syrups contained \"unacceptable\" amounts of diethylene glycol and /or ethylene glycol as contaminants. \"Levels varied for specific details of laboratory tests,\" it added.\n\nEthylene Glycol.\nDiethylene Glycol.\nAnti-Freeze. They made kids drink anti-freeze.",
">\n\nIt’s a Republicans wet dream. No regulations. If your product is killing people then you’ll just go out of business because people stop buying your product.",
">\n\nwhy do americans have to bring their shit politics into everything, it’s not even relevant",
">\n\nExactly. Not everything in the world revolves around your republican/ democrat bullshit. Tired of seeing those comments everywhere on every comment.",
">\n\nAmerican here and I agree. Its exhausting.",
">\n\nYou don't understand America regulated this in the US after the exact same thing happened almost 100 years ago? \nIt's not complicated, it's just fools whose brains are incapable of connecting dots from point a to point b.",
">\n\nSo what the fuck does India doing it now have to do with the us politics.\nIt’s idiots who only care about themselves and their political leanings to get internet points who make us political comments on topics that have nothing to do with it.",
">\n\nRepublicans love spouting free market principles... no regulations because the people are smart. This is what a lack of regulation nets you. Bodies. Still obtusely pretending this isn't conservative rhetoric 101 or that you are tired of politics, doesn't make you moderate... It makes you stupid.",
">\n\nThis is India, not the US.",
">\n\nYep, and 90 years ago....that was the US. Then, we regulated our corporations. So someone highlighting that fact, then highlighting Republicans rhetoric, leads one to conclude they are fine with this outcome. Which we know they are. Just giving more examples of how coded racism masked as idealism, leads to these outcomes.",
">\n\nThe countries this happened in are Gambia, Indonesia and Uzbekistan. There are four additional countries where this cough syrup might have been sold: Cambodia, the Philippines, East Timor and Senegal. This has been going on since JULY 2022."
] |
>
How can they sell "unregulated" medicine regardless of price? | [
"Crucial part:\n\nAccording to the WHO, the cough syrups contained \"unacceptable\" amounts of diethylene glycol and /or ethylene glycol as contaminants. \"Levels varied for specific details of laboratory tests,\" it added.\n\nEthylene Glycol.\nDiethylene Glycol.\nAnti-Freeze. They made kids drink anti-freeze.",
">\n\nIt’s a Republicans wet dream. No regulations. If your product is killing people then you’ll just go out of business because people stop buying your product.",
">\n\nwhy do americans have to bring their shit politics into everything, it’s not even relevant",
">\n\nExactly. Not everything in the world revolves around your republican/ democrat bullshit. Tired of seeing those comments everywhere on every comment.",
">\n\nAmerican here and I agree. Its exhausting.",
">\n\nYou don't understand America regulated this in the US after the exact same thing happened almost 100 years ago? \nIt's not complicated, it's just fools whose brains are incapable of connecting dots from point a to point b.",
">\n\nSo what the fuck does India doing it now have to do with the us politics.\nIt’s idiots who only care about themselves and their political leanings to get internet points who make us political comments on topics that have nothing to do with it.",
">\n\nRepublicans love spouting free market principles... no regulations because the people are smart. This is what a lack of regulation nets you. Bodies. Still obtusely pretending this isn't conservative rhetoric 101 or that you are tired of politics, doesn't make you moderate... It makes you stupid.",
">\n\nThis is India, not the US.",
">\n\nYep, and 90 years ago....that was the US. Then, we regulated our corporations. So someone highlighting that fact, then highlighting Republicans rhetoric, leads one to conclude they are fine with this outcome. Which we know they are. Just giving more examples of how coded racism masked as idealism, leads to these outcomes.",
">\n\nThe countries this happened in are Gambia, Indonesia and Uzbekistan. There are four additional countries where this cough syrup might have been sold: Cambodia, the Philippines, East Timor and Senegal. This has been going on since JULY 2022.",
">\n\nLong story short:\n\nSo far it said that across the three countries where this issue has been reported since August 2022\n\nThe poorer nations (Gambia, Uzbekistan and Indonesia) bought the cheaper, unregulated ones from a couple of Indian companies (Marion Biotech and Maiden Pharmaceuticals) and the children died because of it. \nWHO also issued a warning last year for cough syrups made by four Indonesian manufacturers, PT Yarindo Farmatama, PT Universal Pharmaceutical, PT Konimex and PT AFI Pharma, that were sold domestically."
] |
>
You just said it... its unregulated so they can do whatever they want. This is the "free" part of free market. You get punished for bad outcomes after the fact... but the kids are already dead.
Or you have a government regulate before the kids die. But government regulation is "evil" nowdays since conservatives would rather kill kids for profit. | [
"Crucial part:\n\nAccording to the WHO, the cough syrups contained \"unacceptable\" amounts of diethylene glycol and /or ethylene glycol as contaminants. \"Levels varied for specific details of laboratory tests,\" it added.\n\nEthylene Glycol.\nDiethylene Glycol.\nAnti-Freeze. They made kids drink anti-freeze.",
">\n\nIt’s a Republicans wet dream. No regulations. If your product is killing people then you’ll just go out of business because people stop buying your product.",
">\n\nwhy do americans have to bring their shit politics into everything, it’s not even relevant",
">\n\nExactly. Not everything in the world revolves around your republican/ democrat bullshit. Tired of seeing those comments everywhere on every comment.",
">\n\nAmerican here and I agree. Its exhausting.",
">\n\nYou don't understand America regulated this in the US after the exact same thing happened almost 100 years ago? \nIt's not complicated, it's just fools whose brains are incapable of connecting dots from point a to point b.",
">\n\nSo what the fuck does India doing it now have to do with the us politics.\nIt’s idiots who only care about themselves and their political leanings to get internet points who make us political comments on topics that have nothing to do with it.",
">\n\nRepublicans love spouting free market principles... no regulations because the people are smart. This is what a lack of regulation nets you. Bodies. Still obtusely pretending this isn't conservative rhetoric 101 or that you are tired of politics, doesn't make you moderate... It makes you stupid.",
">\n\nThis is India, not the US.",
">\n\nYep, and 90 years ago....that was the US. Then, we regulated our corporations. So someone highlighting that fact, then highlighting Republicans rhetoric, leads one to conclude they are fine with this outcome. Which we know they are. Just giving more examples of how coded racism masked as idealism, leads to these outcomes.",
">\n\nThe countries this happened in are Gambia, Indonesia and Uzbekistan. There are four additional countries where this cough syrup might have been sold: Cambodia, the Philippines, East Timor and Senegal. This has been going on since JULY 2022.",
">\n\nLong story short:\n\nSo far it said that across the three countries where this issue has been reported since August 2022\n\nThe poorer nations (Gambia, Uzbekistan and Indonesia) bought the cheaper, unregulated ones from a couple of Indian companies (Marion Biotech and Maiden Pharmaceuticals) and the children died because of it. \nWHO also issued a warning last year for cough syrups made by four Indonesian manufacturers, PT Yarindo Farmatama, PT Universal Pharmaceutical, PT Konimex and PT AFI Pharma, that were sold domestically.",
">\n\nHow can they sell \"unregulated\" medicine regardless of price?"
] |
>
You get punished for bad outcomes after the fact
Do you? From what I've seen, you only really get punished if you fuck up super bad and it's clearly and explicitly your fault. If you only fuck up kind of bad, or you can blame someone else (the distributors, here), then a few 'free market' bribes to the investigators and you're good to go. | [
"Crucial part:\n\nAccording to the WHO, the cough syrups contained \"unacceptable\" amounts of diethylene glycol and /or ethylene glycol as contaminants. \"Levels varied for specific details of laboratory tests,\" it added.\n\nEthylene Glycol.\nDiethylene Glycol.\nAnti-Freeze. They made kids drink anti-freeze.",
">\n\nIt’s a Republicans wet dream. No regulations. If your product is killing people then you’ll just go out of business because people stop buying your product.",
">\n\nwhy do americans have to bring their shit politics into everything, it’s not even relevant",
">\n\nExactly. Not everything in the world revolves around your republican/ democrat bullshit. Tired of seeing those comments everywhere on every comment.",
">\n\nAmerican here and I agree. Its exhausting.",
">\n\nYou don't understand America regulated this in the US after the exact same thing happened almost 100 years ago? \nIt's not complicated, it's just fools whose brains are incapable of connecting dots from point a to point b.",
">\n\nSo what the fuck does India doing it now have to do with the us politics.\nIt’s idiots who only care about themselves and their political leanings to get internet points who make us political comments on topics that have nothing to do with it.",
">\n\nRepublicans love spouting free market principles... no regulations because the people are smart. This is what a lack of regulation nets you. Bodies. Still obtusely pretending this isn't conservative rhetoric 101 or that you are tired of politics, doesn't make you moderate... It makes you stupid.",
">\n\nThis is India, not the US.",
">\n\nYep, and 90 years ago....that was the US. Then, we regulated our corporations. So someone highlighting that fact, then highlighting Republicans rhetoric, leads one to conclude they are fine with this outcome. Which we know they are. Just giving more examples of how coded racism masked as idealism, leads to these outcomes.",
">\n\nThe countries this happened in are Gambia, Indonesia and Uzbekistan. There are four additional countries where this cough syrup might have been sold: Cambodia, the Philippines, East Timor and Senegal. This has been going on since JULY 2022.",
">\n\nLong story short:\n\nSo far it said that across the three countries where this issue has been reported since August 2022\n\nThe poorer nations (Gambia, Uzbekistan and Indonesia) bought the cheaper, unregulated ones from a couple of Indian companies (Marion Biotech and Maiden Pharmaceuticals) and the children died because of it. \nWHO also issued a warning last year for cough syrups made by four Indonesian manufacturers, PT Yarindo Farmatama, PT Universal Pharmaceutical, PT Konimex and PT AFI Pharma, that were sold domestically.",
">\n\nHow can they sell \"unregulated\" medicine regardless of price?",
">\n\nYou just said it... its unregulated so they can do whatever they want. This is the \"free\" part of free market. You get punished for bad outcomes after the fact... but the kids are already dead.\nOr you have a government regulate before the kids die. But government regulation is \"evil\" nowdays since conservatives would rather kill kids for profit."
] |
>
It happens frequently enough in developing countries to be a wiki article. | [
"Crucial part:\n\nAccording to the WHO, the cough syrups contained \"unacceptable\" amounts of diethylene glycol and /or ethylene glycol as contaminants. \"Levels varied for specific details of laboratory tests,\" it added.\n\nEthylene Glycol.\nDiethylene Glycol.\nAnti-Freeze. They made kids drink anti-freeze.",
">\n\nIt’s a Republicans wet dream. No regulations. If your product is killing people then you’ll just go out of business because people stop buying your product.",
">\n\nwhy do americans have to bring their shit politics into everything, it’s not even relevant",
">\n\nExactly. Not everything in the world revolves around your republican/ democrat bullshit. Tired of seeing those comments everywhere on every comment.",
">\n\nAmerican here and I agree. Its exhausting.",
">\n\nYou don't understand America regulated this in the US after the exact same thing happened almost 100 years ago? \nIt's not complicated, it's just fools whose brains are incapable of connecting dots from point a to point b.",
">\n\nSo what the fuck does India doing it now have to do with the us politics.\nIt’s idiots who only care about themselves and their political leanings to get internet points who make us political comments on topics that have nothing to do with it.",
">\n\nRepublicans love spouting free market principles... no regulations because the people are smart. This is what a lack of regulation nets you. Bodies. Still obtusely pretending this isn't conservative rhetoric 101 or that you are tired of politics, doesn't make you moderate... It makes you stupid.",
">\n\nThis is India, not the US.",
">\n\nYep, and 90 years ago....that was the US. Then, we regulated our corporations. So someone highlighting that fact, then highlighting Republicans rhetoric, leads one to conclude they are fine with this outcome. Which we know they are. Just giving more examples of how coded racism masked as idealism, leads to these outcomes.",
">\n\nThe countries this happened in are Gambia, Indonesia and Uzbekistan. There are four additional countries where this cough syrup might have been sold: Cambodia, the Philippines, East Timor and Senegal. This has been going on since JULY 2022.",
">\n\nLong story short:\n\nSo far it said that across the three countries where this issue has been reported since August 2022\n\nThe poorer nations (Gambia, Uzbekistan and Indonesia) bought the cheaper, unregulated ones from a couple of Indian companies (Marion Biotech and Maiden Pharmaceuticals) and the children died because of it. \nWHO also issued a warning last year for cough syrups made by four Indonesian manufacturers, PT Yarindo Farmatama, PT Universal Pharmaceutical, PT Konimex and PT AFI Pharma, that were sold domestically.",
">\n\nHow can they sell \"unregulated\" medicine regardless of price?",
">\n\nYou just said it... its unregulated so they can do whatever they want. This is the \"free\" part of free market. You get punished for bad outcomes after the fact... but the kids are already dead.\nOr you have a government regulate before the kids die. But government regulation is \"evil\" nowdays since conservatives would rather kill kids for profit.",
">\n\n\nYou get punished for bad outcomes after the fact\n\nDo you? From what I've seen, you only really get punished if you fuck up super bad and it's clearly and explicitly your fault. If you only fuck up kind of bad, or you can blame someone else (the distributors, here), then a few 'free market' bribes to the investigators and you're good to go."
] |
>
Indian lean hits hard | [
"Crucial part:\n\nAccording to the WHO, the cough syrups contained \"unacceptable\" amounts of diethylene glycol and /or ethylene glycol as contaminants. \"Levels varied for specific details of laboratory tests,\" it added.\n\nEthylene Glycol.\nDiethylene Glycol.\nAnti-Freeze. They made kids drink anti-freeze.",
">\n\nIt’s a Republicans wet dream. No regulations. If your product is killing people then you’ll just go out of business because people stop buying your product.",
">\n\nwhy do americans have to bring their shit politics into everything, it’s not even relevant",
">\n\nExactly. Not everything in the world revolves around your republican/ democrat bullshit. Tired of seeing those comments everywhere on every comment.",
">\n\nAmerican here and I agree. Its exhausting.",
">\n\nYou don't understand America regulated this in the US after the exact same thing happened almost 100 years ago? \nIt's not complicated, it's just fools whose brains are incapable of connecting dots from point a to point b.",
">\n\nSo what the fuck does India doing it now have to do with the us politics.\nIt’s idiots who only care about themselves and their political leanings to get internet points who make us political comments on topics that have nothing to do with it.",
">\n\nRepublicans love spouting free market principles... no regulations because the people are smart. This is what a lack of regulation nets you. Bodies. Still obtusely pretending this isn't conservative rhetoric 101 or that you are tired of politics, doesn't make you moderate... It makes you stupid.",
">\n\nThis is India, not the US.",
">\n\nYep, and 90 years ago....that was the US. Then, we regulated our corporations. So someone highlighting that fact, then highlighting Republicans rhetoric, leads one to conclude they are fine with this outcome. Which we know they are. Just giving more examples of how coded racism masked as idealism, leads to these outcomes.",
">\n\nThe countries this happened in are Gambia, Indonesia and Uzbekistan. There are four additional countries where this cough syrup might have been sold: Cambodia, the Philippines, East Timor and Senegal. This has been going on since JULY 2022.",
">\n\nLong story short:\n\nSo far it said that across the three countries where this issue has been reported since August 2022\n\nThe poorer nations (Gambia, Uzbekistan and Indonesia) bought the cheaper, unregulated ones from a couple of Indian companies (Marion Biotech and Maiden Pharmaceuticals) and the children died because of it. \nWHO also issued a warning last year for cough syrups made by four Indonesian manufacturers, PT Yarindo Farmatama, PT Universal Pharmaceutical, PT Konimex and PT AFI Pharma, that were sold domestically.",
">\n\nHow can they sell \"unregulated\" medicine regardless of price?",
">\n\nYou just said it... its unregulated so they can do whatever they want. This is the \"free\" part of free market. You get punished for bad outcomes after the fact... but the kids are already dead.\nOr you have a government regulate before the kids die. But government regulation is \"evil\" nowdays since conservatives would rather kill kids for profit.",
">\n\n\nYou get punished for bad outcomes after the fact\n\nDo you? From what I've seen, you only really get punished if you fuck up super bad and it's clearly and explicitly your fault. If you only fuck up kind of bad, or you can blame someone else (the distributors, here), then a few 'free market' bribes to the investigators and you're good to go.",
">\n\nIt happens frequently enough in developing countries to be a wiki article."
] |
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