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The problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't. | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl"
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All you need now is a monkey with a dart | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't."
] |
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How are we sure it’s Chinese? | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart"
] |
>
It says “made in China” in the back | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?"
] |
>
Doesn't everything nowadays? | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back"
] |
>
Congress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now. | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?"
] |
>
Why Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon? | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now."
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It was an Estes Rocket | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?"
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Two-stager | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket"
] |
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That's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho? | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager"
] |
>
if they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?"
] |
>
The Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it. | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol"
] |
>
its definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon. | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it."
] |
>
How did it get all the way to Montana without detection? | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon."
] |
>
When they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty. | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?"
] |
>
I’m guessing China just sent those balloons over to find out what the response would be more than anything else, they’ll have hundreds of people poring over news and social media, the best thing to do is probably just ignore it | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?",
">\n\nWhen they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty."
] |
>
Pretend to ignore it. | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?",
">\n\nWhen they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.",
">\n\nI’m guessing China just sent those balloons over to find out what the response would be more than anything else, they’ll have hundreds of people poring over news and social media, the best thing to do is probably just ignore it"
] |
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“Northern US” so definitely nuclear areas of North Dakota lol | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?",
">\n\nWhen they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.",
">\n\nI’m guessing China just sent those balloons over to find out what the response would be more than anything else, they’ll have hundreds of people poring over news and social media, the best thing to do is probably just ignore it",
">\n\nPretend to ignore it."
] |
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me in north dakota: 😣 | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?",
">\n\nWhen they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.",
">\n\nI’m guessing China just sent those balloons over to find out what the response would be more than anything else, they’ll have hundreds of people poring over news and social media, the best thing to do is probably just ignore it",
">\n\nPretend to ignore it.",
">\n\n“Northern US” so definitely nuclear areas of North Dakota lol"
] |
>
US should definitely try to capture it. | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?",
">\n\nWhen they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.",
">\n\nI’m guessing China just sent those balloons over to find out what the response would be more than anything else, they’ll have hundreds of people poring over news and social media, the best thing to do is probably just ignore it",
">\n\nPretend to ignore it.",
">\n\n“Northern US” so definitely nuclear areas of North Dakota lol",
">\n\nme in north dakota: 😣"
] |
>
They will, but are probably feeding it counterintelligence. Signal interceptor most likely, not arial photography . | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?",
">\n\nWhen they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.",
">\n\nI’m guessing China just sent those balloons over to find out what the response would be more than anything else, they’ll have hundreds of people poring over news and social media, the best thing to do is probably just ignore it",
">\n\nPretend to ignore it.",
">\n\n“Northern US” so definitely nuclear areas of North Dakota lol",
">\n\nme in north dakota: 😣",
">\n\nUS should definitely try to capture it."
] |
>
It's the MLB. Anyone seen Mark McGwire lately? | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?",
">\n\nWhen they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.",
">\n\nI’m guessing China just sent those balloons over to find out what the response would be more than anything else, they’ll have hundreds of people poring over news and social media, the best thing to do is probably just ignore it",
">\n\nPretend to ignore it.",
">\n\n“Northern US” so definitely nuclear areas of North Dakota lol",
">\n\nme in north dakota: 😣",
">\n\nUS should definitely try to capture it.",
">\n\nThey will, but are probably feeding it counterintelligence. Signal interceptor most likely, not arial photography ."
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““Once the balloon was detected, the U.S. government acted immediately to protect against the collection of sensitive information…” I feel like a big sheet might do the trick or a pin? | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?",
">\n\nWhen they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.",
">\n\nI’m guessing China just sent those balloons over to find out what the response would be more than anything else, they’ll have hundreds of people poring over news and social media, the best thing to do is probably just ignore it",
">\n\nPretend to ignore it.",
">\n\n“Northern US” so definitely nuclear areas of North Dakota lol",
">\n\nme in north dakota: 😣",
">\n\nUS should definitely try to capture it.",
">\n\nThey will, but are probably feeding it counterintelligence. Signal interceptor most likely, not arial photography .",
">\n\nIt's the MLB. Anyone seen Mark McGwire lately?"
] |
>
Why does the ballon look like a ninjago palace Lego set? | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?",
">\n\nWhen they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.",
">\n\nI’m guessing China just sent those balloons over to find out what the response would be more than anything else, they’ll have hundreds of people poring over news and social media, the best thing to do is probably just ignore it",
">\n\nPretend to ignore it.",
">\n\n“Northern US” so definitely nuclear areas of North Dakota lol",
">\n\nme in north dakota: 😣",
">\n\nUS should definitely try to capture it.",
">\n\nThey will, but are probably feeding it counterintelligence. Signal interceptor most likely, not arial photography .",
">\n\nIt's the MLB. Anyone seen Mark McGwire lately?",
">\n\n““Once the balloon was detected, the U.S. government acted immediately to protect against the collection of sensitive information…” I feel like a big sheet might do the trick or a pin?"
] |
>
International Gender Reveal! | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?",
">\n\nWhen they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.",
">\n\nI’m guessing China just sent those balloons over to find out what the response would be more than anything else, they’ll have hundreds of people poring over news and social media, the best thing to do is probably just ignore it",
">\n\nPretend to ignore it.",
">\n\n“Northern US” so definitely nuclear areas of North Dakota lol",
">\n\nme in north dakota: 😣",
">\n\nUS should definitely try to capture it.",
">\n\nThey will, but are probably feeding it counterintelligence. Signal interceptor most likely, not arial photography .",
">\n\nIt's the MLB. Anyone seen Mark McGwire lately?",
">\n\n““Once the balloon was detected, the U.S. government acted immediately to protect against the collection of sensitive information…” I feel like a big sheet might do the trick or a pin?",
">\n\nWhy does the ballon look like a ninjago palace Lego set?"
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'found' lol. More like it announced its considerable presence for all and sundry to see. | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?",
">\n\nWhen they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.",
">\n\nI’m guessing China just sent those balloons over to find out what the response would be more than anything else, they’ll have hundreds of people poring over news and social media, the best thing to do is probably just ignore it",
">\n\nPretend to ignore it.",
">\n\n“Northern US” so definitely nuclear areas of North Dakota lol",
">\n\nme in north dakota: 😣",
">\n\nUS should definitely try to capture it.",
">\n\nThey will, but are probably feeding it counterintelligence. Signal interceptor most likely, not arial photography .",
">\n\nIt's the MLB. Anyone seen Mark McGwire lately?",
">\n\n““Once the balloon was detected, the U.S. government acted immediately to protect against the collection of sensitive information…” I feel like a big sheet might do the trick or a pin?",
">\n\nWhy does the ballon look like a ninjago palace Lego set?",
">\n\nInternational Gender Reveal!"
] |
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How the hell did it get there in the first place though? Like how do you secretly transport a balloon the size of 3 buses, activate it, and then it get that high up before someone thinks “mhmm this is fishy” | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?",
">\n\nWhen they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.",
">\n\nI’m guessing China just sent those balloons over to find out what the response would be more than anything else, they’ll have hundreds of people poring over news and social media, the best thing to do is probably just ignore it",
">\n\nPretend to ignore it.",
">\n\n“Northern US” so definitely nuclear areas of North Dakota lol",
">\n\nme in north dakota: 😣",
">\n\nUS should definitely try to capture it.",
">\n\nThey will, but are probably feeding it counterintelligence. Signal interceptor most likely, not arial photography .",
">\n\nIt's the MLB. Anyone seen Mark McGwire lately?",
">\n\n““Once the balloon was detected, the U.S. government acted immediately to protect against the collection of sensitive information…” I feel like a big sheet might do the trick or a pin?",
">\n\nWhy does the ballon look like a ninjago palace Lego set?",
">\n\nInternational Gender Reveal!",
">\n\n'found' lol. More like it announced its considerable presence for all and sundry to see."
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It just makes me laugh, because all they'll see are folks open carrying and shouting at the birds for spying. Meanwhile, the big fucking balloon....
This is just a shit stirring move tbh, everything important that can actually do or see anything is in space. Unless they're trying to scoop that pesky laptop. | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?",
">\n\nWhen they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.",
">\n\nI’m guessing China just sent those balloons over to find out what the response would be more than anything else, they’ll have hundreds of people poring over news and social media, the best thing to do is probably just ignore it",
">\n\nPretend to ignore it.",
">\n\n“Northern US” so definitely nuclear areas of North Dakota lol",
">\n\nme in north dakota: 😣",
">\n\nUS should definitely try to capture it.",
">\n\nThey will, but are probably feeding it counterintelligence. Signal interceptor most likely, not arial photography .",
">\n\nIt's the MLB. Anyone seen Mark McGwire lately?",
">\n\n““Once the balloon was detected, the U.S. government acted immediately to protect against the collection of sensitive information…” I feel like a big sheet might do the trick or a pin?",
">\n\nWhy does the ballon look like a ninjago palace Lego set?",
">\n\nInternational Gender Reveal!",
">\n\n'found' lol. More like it announced its considerable presence for all and sundry to see.",
">\n\nHow the hell did it get there in the first place though? Like how do you secretly transport a balloon the size of 3 buses, activate it, and then it get that high up before someone thinks “mhmm this is fishy”"
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"Chinese airballoon over Montana triggers world war 3" is not on my doomsday bingo this year. | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?",
">\n\nWhen they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.",
">\n\nI’m guessing China just sent those balloons over to find out what the response would be more than anything else, they’ll have hundreds of people poring over news and social media, the best thing to do is probably just ignore it",
">\n\nPretend to ignore it.",
">\n\n“Northern US” so definitely nuclear areas of North Dakota lol",
">\n\nme in north dakota: 😣",
">\n\nUS should definitely try to capture it.",
">\n\nThey will, but are probably feeding it counterintelligence. Signal interceptor most likely, not arial photography .",
">\n\nIt's the MLB. Anyone seen Mark McGwire lately?",
">\n\n““Once the balloon was detected, the U.S. government acted immediately to protect against the collection of sensitive information…” I feel like a big sheet might do the trick or a pin?",
">\n\nWhy does the ballon look like a ninjago palace Lego set?",
">\n\nInternational Gender Reveal!",
">\n\n'found' lol. More like it announced its considerable presence for all and sundry to see.",
">\n\nHow the hell did it get there in the first place though? Like how do you secretly transport a balloon the size of 3 buses, activate it, and then it get that high up before someone thinks “mhmm this is fishy”",
">\n\nIt just makes me laugh, because all they'll see are folks open carrying and shouting at the birds for spying. Meanwhile, the big fucking balloon....\nThis is just a shit stirring move tbh, everything important that can actually do or see anything is in space. Unless they're trying to scoop that pesky laptop."
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"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?",
">\n\nWhen they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.",
">\n\nI’m guessing China just sent those balloons over to find out what the response would be more than anything else, they’ll have hundreds of people poring over news and social media, the best thing to do is probably just ignore it",
">\n\nPretend to ignore it.",
">\n\n“Northern US” so definitely nuclear areas of North Dakota lol",
">\n\nme in north dakota: 😣",
">\n\nUS should definitely try to capture it.",
">\n\nThey will, but are probably feeding it counterintelligence. Signal interceptor most likely, not arial photography .",
">\n\nIt's the MLB. Anyone seen Mark McGwire lately?",
">\n\n““Once the balloon was detected, the U.S. government acted immediately to protect against the collection of sensitive information…” I feel like a big sheet might do the trick or a pin?",
">\n\nWhy does the ballon look like a ninjago palace Lego set?",
">\n\nInternational Gender Reveal!",
">\n\n'found' lol. More like it announced its considerable presence for all and sundry to see.",
">\n\nHow the hell did it get there in the first place though? Like how do you secretly transport a balloon the size of 3 buses, activate it, and then it get that high up before someone thinks “mhmm this is fishy”",
">\n\nIt just makes me laugh, because all they'll see are folks open carrying and shouting at the birds for spying. Meanwhile, the big fucking balloon....\nThis is just a shit stirring move tbh, everything important that can actually do or see anything is in space. Unless they're trying to scoop that pesky laptop.",
">\n\n\"Chinese airballoon over Montana triggers world war 3\" is not on my doomsday bingo this year."
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I love the chatter about this balloon... while millions of people in the US and Canada continue to use TikTok with absolutely no concern at all. | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?",
">\n\nWhen they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.",
">\n\nI’m guessing China just sent those balloons over to find out what the response would be more than anything else, they’ll have hundreds of people poring over news and social media, the best thing to do is probably just ignore it",
">\n\nPretend to ignore it.",
">\n\n“Northern US” so definitely nuclear areas of North Dakota lol",
">\n\nme in north dakota: 😣",
">\n\nUS should definitely try to capture it.",
">\n\nThey will, but are probably feeding it counterintelligence. Signal interceptor most likely, not arial photography .",
">\n\nIt's the MLB. Anyone seen Mark McGwire lately?",
">\n\n““Once the balloon was detected, the U.S. government acted immediately to protect against the collection of sensitive information…” I feel like a big sheet might do the trick or a pin?",
">\n\nWhy does the ballon look like a ninjago palace Lego set?",
">\n\nInternational Gender Reveal!",
">\n\n'found' lol. More like it announced its considerable presence for all and sundry to see.",
">\n\nHow the hell did it get there in the first place though? Like how do you secretly transport a balloon the size of 3 buses, activate it, and then it get that high up before someone thinks “mhmm this is fishy”",
">\n\nIt just makes me laugh, because all they'll see are folks open carrying and shouting at the birds for spying. Meanwhile, the big fucking balloon....\nThis is just a shit stirring move tbh, everything important that can actually do or see anything is in space. Unless they're trying to scoop that pesky laptop.",
">\n\n\"Chinese airballoon over Montana triggers world war 3\" is not on my doomsday bingo this year.",
">\n\nDon't they have satellites? What would be the point of a balloon?"
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I wish we would land it, paint a huge Winnie the Pooh on the side of it and send it back. | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?",
">\n\nWhen they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.",
">\n\nI’m guessing China just sent those balloons over to find out what the response would be more than anything else, they’ll have hundreds of people poring over news and social media, the best thing to do is probably just ignore it",
">\n\nPretend to ignore it.",
">\n\n“Northern US” so definitely nuclear areas of North Dakota lol",
">\n\nme in north dakota: 😣",
">\n\nUS should definitely try to capture it.",
">\n\nThey will, but are probably feeding it counterintelligence. Signal interceptor most likely, not arial photography .",
">\n\nIt's the MLB. Anyone seen Mark McGwire lately?",
">\n\n““Once the balloon was detected, the U.S. government acted immediately to protect against the collection of sensitive information…” I feel like a big sheet might do the trick or a pin?",
">\n\nWhy does the ballon look like a ninjago palace Lego set?",
">\n\nInternational Gender Reveal!",
">\n\n'found' lol. More like it announced its considerable presence for all and sundry to see.",
">\n\nHow the hell did it get there in the first place though? Like how do you secretly transport a balloon the size of 3 buses, activate it, and then it get that high up before someone thinks “mhmm this is fishy”",
">\n\nIt just makes me laugh, because all they'll see are folks open carrying and shouting at the birds for spying. Meanwhile, the big fucking balloon....\nThis is just a shit stirring move tbh, everything important that can actually do or see anything is in space. Unless they're trying to scoop that pesky laptop.",
">\n\n\"Chinese airballoon over Montana triggers world war 3\" is not on my doomsday bingo this year.",
">\n\nDon't they have satellites? What would be the point of a balloon?",
">\n\nI love the chatter about this balloon... while millions of people in the US and Canada continue to use TikTok with absolutely no concern at all."
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how about taking it down with a laser beam strapped onto a shrieking American Bald Eagle from the USA for the win! | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?",
">\n\nWhen they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.",
">\n\nI’m guessing China just sent those balloons over to find out what the response would be more than anything else, they’ll have hundreds of people poring over news and social media, the best thing to do is probably just ignore it",
">\n\nPretend to ignore it.",
">\n\n“Northern US” so definitely nuclear areas of North Dakota lol",
">\n\nme in north dakota: 😣",
">\n\nUS should definitely try to capture it.",
">\n\nThey will, but are probably feeding it counterintelligence. Signal interceptor most likely, not arial photography .",
">\n\nIt's the MLB. Anyone seen Mark McGwire lately?",
">\n\n““Once the balloon was detected, the U.S. government acted immediately to protect against the collection of sensitive information…” I feel like a big sheet might do the trick or a pin?",
">\n\nWhy does the ballon look like a ninjago palace Lego set?",
">\n\nInternational Gender Reveal!",
">\n\n'found' lol. More like it announced its considerable presence for all and sundry to see.",
">\n\nHow the hell did it get there in the first place though? Like how do you secretly transport a balloon the size of 3 buses, activate it, and then it get that high up before someone thinks “mhmm this is fishy”",
">\n\nIt just makes me laugh, because all they'll see are folks open carrying and shouting at the birds for spying. Meanwhile, the big fucking balloon....\nThis is just a shit stirring move tbh, everything important that can actually do or see anything is in space. Unless they're trying to scoop that pesky laptop.",
">\n\n\"Chinese airballoon over Montana triggers world war 3\" is not on my doomsday bingo this year.",
">\n\nDon't they have satellites? What would be the point of a balloon?",
">\n\nI love the chatter about this balloon... while millions of people in the US and Canada continue to use TikTok with absolutely no concern at all.",
">\n\nI wish we would land it, paint a huge Winnie the Pooh on the side of it and send it back."
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We'd have to send a red-tailed hawk with it to get the appropriate scream | [
"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?",
">\n\nWhen they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.",
">\n\nI’m guessing China just sent those balloons over to find out what the response would be more than anything else, they’ll have hundreds of people poring over news and social media, the best thing to do is probably just ignore it",
">\n\nPretend to ignore it.",
">\n\n“Northern US” so definitely nuclear areas of North Dakota lol",
">\n\nme in north dakota: 😣",
">\n\nUS should definitely try to capture it.",
">\n\nThey will, but are probably feeding it counterintelligence. Signal interceptor most likely, not arial photography .",
">\n\nIt's the MLB. Anyone seen Mark McGwire lately?",
">\n\n““Once the balloon was detected, the U.S. government acted immediately to protect against the collection of sensitive information…” I feel like a big sheet might do the trick or a pin?",
">\n\nWhy does the ballon look like a ninjago palace Lego set?",
">\n\nInternational Gender Reveal!",
">\n\n'found' lol. More like it announced its considerable presence for all and sundry to see.",
">\n\nHow the hell did it get there in the first place though? Like how do you secretly transport a balloon the size of 3 buses, activate it, and then it get that high up before someone thinks “mhmm this is fishy”",
">\n\nIt just makes me laugh, because all they'll see are folks open carrying and shouting at the birds for spying. Meanwhile, the big fucking balloon....\nThis is just a shit stirring move tbh, everything important that can actually do or see anything is in space. Unless they're trying to scoop that pesky laptop.",
">\n\n\"Chinese airballoon over Montana triggers world war 3\" is not on my doomsday bingo this year.",
">\n\nDon't they have satellites? What would be the point of a balloon?",
">\n\nI love the chatter about this balloon... while millions of people in the US and Canada continue to use TikTok with absolutely no concern at all.",
">\n\nI wish we would land it, paint a huge Winnie the Pooh on the side of it and send it back.",
">\n\nhow about taking it down with a laser beam strapped onto a shrieking American Bald Eagle from the USA for the win!"
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"Someone please make a Chinese version of \"99 Luftballons\"",
">\n\nThis person got it started.",
">\n\nCan somebody inform me what a balloon can do that a spy satellite can’t?",
">\n\nProbably airborne sensors. This thing is the size of three buses w/ a sizable observation bay. Deep ground penetrating radar from space has limits due to high orbit and the transition from space to atmosphere. Something that big probably can emit strong enough radar burst to get good look at deep underground military installations . Also just testing our response time and where our fighters would take off to intercept said balloon for North American defense.",
">\n\nF-22’s were specifically scrambled to observe the balloon because they have the highest service ceiling (65,000 feet) of any of our fighter jets. So that spy balloon must be way the fuck up there. I think this incident was more about testing the capability of our fighter aircraft. No doubt it was keeping record of how fast NORAD reacts and how quickly a jet would be in the sky and within range to intercept/observe it.",
">\n\nI heard, mother fucker had like, 30 god damn balloons",
">\n\nHe’ll kick you apart. He’ll kick you apart! ooo.",
">\n\nHe'll save children, but not the British children",
">\n\nI heard he once stuck an opponent's wife's hand in a jar of acid",
">\n\nat a party",
">\n\nHe made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, but he killed his sensei in a duel and never told us why.",
">\n\nTime to dust off the old Bloons Tower Defense",
">\n\nWow that brought me back",
">\n\nThose games keep getting released. BTD6 is a banger.",
">\n\nSeconded. We talmbout heated boomerangs?\nenter GLAIVE DOMINUS \ngreat game. \nJus some monkeys throwin darts at balloons",
">\n\nThey forgot we have camo detect villages",
">\n\nWhich become the all important MIB.",
">\n\nManchurian Intelligence Balloon",
">\n\nI live in BIllings, Montana and this is pretty crazy thing to have alerted in your phone. Thought it was a prank honestly",
">\n\nWhat did the alert say? That must have been surreal",
">\n\n\"DONT LOOK UP\"",
">\n\n“NOPE”",
">\n\nTracking it...?\nWhy don't they just drone swarm it until it deflates?",
">\n\nBalloons can reach far higher altitude than any drone. Typically over 100k ft.",
">\n\nIf they don’t shoot it down how do they do that?",
">\n\nBalloon vs balloon dogfight ending in a grappling hook boarding maneuver.\nThey have to fly in the air force's best balloon dogfighting aces first.\nAs you can imagine, not many exist.",
">\n\nCan confirm, am a retired veteran of the 3rd balloon war.",
">\n\nThank you for your service and may you never suffer deflate.",
">\n\nI can never go to birthday parties anymore. Anytime one of the balloons pop, i remember a fallen comrade.",
">\n\nWe're sending up another balloon with a pokey stick attached, case closed",
">\n\nThis sounds like the best possible WW3",
">\n\nBallon jousting settles WWIII is the timeline we all need",
">\n\nNot gonna lie, this sounds like a plot device in an Austin Powers reboot.",
">\n\n\"It looks like a giant ball...\"\n\"...Sack! That's right, I want you to sack the quarterback! Hurley! What're you looking at?\"",
">\n\n\"Coach I think I see..\" \n\"...the family jewels on display tended to by curators at this museum for over 30 years. Hey something is blocking out the sun. I think it's a...\"",
">\n\n\"Teabag! \nExcuse me Waitress, can you get me another teabag? Mine broke inside the mug...\"\n\"Certainly sir... Wow, take a look out the window! That looks just like my husband's...\"",
">\n\n\"Nuts! You have to be nuts to try that jump Carl! Come on ski with me, let's try the smaller one over there first.\"\n\"Hold on, what is that up in the sky?\"\n\"Wow, that looks exactly like my...\"",
">\n\n\"Coin purse! He took my coin purse! Helllllp!!!!... Woah. I haven't seen that since Harold popped out his...\"",
">\n\n\"Junk!\"\n\"Junk, Ozzy?\"\n\"They're using the same fuckin' junk joke as they did the last time.\"\n\"What fuckin' joke?\"\n\"You know, the fuckin' joke about the spy balloon that looks like some guy's...\"",
">\n\n\"Two vegetables?\"\n\"No, I said I want three. I haven't eaten in hours!\"\n\"You sure you wouldn't rather order the...\"",
">\n\n\"Frank and Beans?\"\n\"That sounds delightful!.... Oh my, would you look at that?! It looks just like my Uncle's.....\"",
">\n\nBALLS!!! Boys get those balls in before it starts to rain. OH MY GOD what's that in the sky it looks just like two big...",
">\n\ngoodnight table\ngoodnight moon\ngoodnight high altitude chinese spy balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight stars\nGoodnight air\nGoodnight new form of aerial warfare",
">\n\nGoodnight room\nGoodnight cow jumping over the moon\nGoodnight blinking light, in the red balloon",
">\n\nGoodnight cow\nGoodnight moon\nGoodnight blinking red light in the room",
">\n\nGoodnight noises everywhere.",
">\n\nAnd goodnight old broad in the rocking chair",
">\n\nThe proper response",
">\n\nIt's actually a battlebus",
">\n\nIma drop in texas.",
">\n\nIt's funnier to acknowledge we know about it and NOT shoot it down, because we already hacked it.",
">\n\nLive footage of the NSA cryptographers right now",
">\n\nLive footage of the Chinese military right now",
">\n\nThis is great but I was really disappointed that they completely left out the super troopers enhance...djeiwodhebtofidue... Enhance...jdjdheieodjrbrbeixoxork... Enhance!",
">\n\nJust print the damn thing!",
">\n\nThere are checking for inflation",
">\n\nPeople are blowing up about it",
">\n\nit is allegedly the size of three buses and has a technology bay",
">\n\nCan we catch it? Maybe there's something useful inside. Or wait until it's over the middle of nowhere.",
">\n\nThis comment put a hilarious image in my head of a giant weather balloon just meandering along slowly in the sky and then you zoom out and see the US has deployed their own weather balloon with a gun attached to float along behind it to try and shoot it down. \nCut to the Chinese and US crews on the ground in their headquarters with flashing warning signs shouting at each other in a panic, cut back to the balloons in the sky, silently bobbing along in slow motion.\nEdit: Leslie Nielsen plays the agent in charge of the US operation.",
">\n\nJust duct tape a knife to a drone and save on bullets.",
">\n\nThis is America, we don't save on bullets.",
">\n\nYou're right, we should make a knife that shoots bullets",
">\n\nThat is so fucking stupid and entirely misses the point. What we need is a gun that shoots knives.",
">\n\nKind of already exists but in missile form.",
">\n\nThat’s super impressive as far as precision technology goes but it’s definitely no knife-gun. I’m almost as disappointed as when I found out what tomahawk missiles really are.",
">\n\nHonestly, these gender reveals gone awry are just happening too often.",
">\n\nThis is a hidden agenda reveal",
">\n\nI love when reddit armchair experts think they know better than the top brains of US intelligence, lol.\nIf they think it's not worth it to shoot it down, then they're probably right. Both US and China have plenty of spy satellites watching each other.",
">\n\nFun fact. Nixon used CIA agents for the Watergate scandal and they got detected by a security guard at the hotel lmao.",
">\n\nActually, Forrest Gump made the initial call to security",
">\n\nWas that before or after he drank 15 Dr. Peppers?",
">\n\nAfter the 15 Dr Peppers, before he showed his ass to the President",
">\n\nProb the most exciting thing to ever happen in Montana",
">\n\n♬ 99 spy balloons\nFloating in the summer sky\nPanic bells, it's red alert\nThere's something here from somewhere else\nThe war machine springs to life\nOpens up one eager eye\nFocusing it on the sky\nThe 99 spy balloons go by ♬",
">\n\nThis is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war",
">\n\n/The President is on the line / /\n/ /As 99 red balloons go by 🎸🎼🎹/",
">\n\nWhen you opt for drone delivery from Wish instead of Amazon",
">\n\nActual photo here.",
">\n\n\"Oh bother!\"",
">\n\nThey're doing a fentanyl drop.",
">\n\n98 more and we'll have a problem",
">\n\nluftballon!",
">\n\nbass synth intensifies",
">\n\nFind a cat. Make a suit so the cat can survive high altitudes. Make sure to modify the suit so it's claws can still be used. Tie cat to a drone. Fly that cat towards the balloon. Balloon pops. We hold a parade for the cat.\nYou guys don't have to thank me, I take pleasure in coming up with solutions.",
">\n\nLadies and gentlemen your new secretary of defense.",
">\n\nCan we please stop the ominous events marathon this decade?",
">\n\nThis could be the premise of an episode or a subplot of an episode for the rebooted King of the Hill show. Dale goes off about the Chinese spying on us. A spy weather balloon gets shot down over Arlen. Bill is able to recover one of the camera boxes and subsequently bonds with and hides it from the others, leading to an ET esque ending where Hank and Co have to both make sure Bill isn't charged with Treason whilst also humoring his loneliness by not just destroying the box. There would even be a blinking light on the camera that Bill seems to think is the spy at the other end talking and listening to him",
">\n\nI say we retaliate with our own balloons.",
">\n\n1, 2, 3, 4.\nI declare balloon war.",
">\n\nhow do we know its a Chinese spy balloon and not just some garage experiment?",
">\n\nThe article also says it's probably a science experiment gone awry",
">\n\nIt did say that, until the article was edited to omit that fact because fear mongering and chauvinism gets more clicks. Consent manufacturing machine goes brrrrrrr.",
">\n\nSomeone get Tom Brady out there to let some air out of it.",
">\n\nHe’s retired.",
">\n\nUncle Rico it is then",
">\n\nYou want to see him throw a football over them mountains?",
">\n\nNext time China cries about US flights in South China Sea... Just imagine the shitstorm they would have if we did this.",
">\n\nLmao thanks for posting the article in a misleading way OP.\nLast part of the article.\n\nMilitary expert's view \nGanyard predicted the balloon was an experiment gone awry. \nSuch balloons are not controlled after their release and while they are normally equipped with mechanisms to deflate over an open area, the mechanisms can fail, Ganyard said. So it's possible the balloon would have drifted over from China after multiple days, rather than being nefariously deployed. \nChina intentionally deploying a reconnaissance balloon over the U.S. would be highly provocative, with little value, Ganyard said, noting that Chinese satellites are able to collect information in a similar manner.\n\nEdit: These fearmongering mofos edited their article.... saving a photo from GMA so it's not lost",
">\n\nI might be stupid but i didnt see that in the article, am i blind?",
">\n\nJFC, they actually did. Propaganda machine at work in real time",
">\n\nThe US COMPETES Act allocated 500 million dollars for propaganda specially against China, and that's not the only allocation. There's lots of it about.",
">\n\nWhy use a spy balloon when they have tik tok?",
">\n\nDifferent data points. \nBalloon provides geographical information. Response of military. Response of local media. \ntik tok provides movement of every registered user and potentially those they come into contact with. As well as mass data too find \"high target\" people and to understand their daily GPS/route habits.",
">\n\nPretty sure if we set up a bunch of Wal-Mart box fans and point them west it should just blow it out into the ocean.",
">\n\n☝️ Thinker!",
">\n\nFor the people shouting, \"THIS IS OUR AIRSPACE! SHOOT IT DOWN OR MERICA WILL LOOK WEAK!\" Here is the smallest example idea of how counterintelligence works. There are many possible scenarios let's go over a basic one. \nUS intelligence gets wind of a Chinese spy plot to use a high altitude surveillance balloon in the coming weeks.\nUS assets in the Chinese military and / or US spies are contacted to discreetly learn more.\nUS intelligence and national security experts discuss various options such as\n\n\nLet it slip that the US knows about the program, causing China to likely shut it down\n\n\nPrepare an immediate response as a show of strength/ rapid response capabilities.\n\n\nFeign ignorance and prepare counter intel measures.\n\n\nSo feigning ignorance is the most beneficial option. We can prepare and make sure no vital info will be gained by our enemies, while our countermeasures net us valuable Intel and insight by maybe monitoring what data is being gathered and stored, as well as who or where it's being sent to. \nAfter the Chinese balloon is discovered, we choose to sandbag a confused response, throw our hands in the air, and cry about how upset and exposed we are. Make statements about future preparations blah blah.\nSometimes, the smartest thing to do is simply not act and let things play out. \nFor a classic example of this, look up Alan Turing and the Enigma Code. He deciphered Nazi communication codes and that gave allied forces a massive leg up. But he also understood that if we thwarted every Nazi ploy, that they would know we had cracked the code... So the decision was made to simply lose certain battles, soldiers died, ships and planes were lost, all to maintain the appearance that the code was still intact. That's counter intelligence, that's how wars are won.\nHell, I'd say the fact this is a headline almost proves we had advance knowledge. Otherwise, the government would just stifle this type of news in the name of national security.\nTruth is we (the public) don't fucking know, but what we do know is that we don't have universal healthcare for a reason. That reason being we spend a whole fuck load on defense, and although it's possible, it's not probable that we knew nothing of a giant, poorly engineered, not even slightly camouflaged, slow moving balloon, sending out random signals, within our basic radar monitoring capabilities, thwarted our various military and intelligence branches...\nSo keep calm, carry on, and distract yourself with Budlite, gun-shows, and the Super Bowl",
">\n\nThe problem is a vast majority of Americans are fucking ignorant and scared, and that creates impulsive and down right dumb decisions and conclusions to be made. Which is why we have a multi tier government and why every major position in the US government have loads of Aides and personnel to help guide and make decisions. Our citizens may be a little stupid. But our government sure isn't.",
">\n\nAll you need now is a monkey with a dart",
">\n\nHow are we sure it’s Chinese?",
">\n\nIt says “made in China” in the back",
">\n\nDoesn't everything nowadays?",
">\n\nCongress: alright Pentagon, how many trillions you want now.",
">\n\nWhy Chinese? Any message painted on the balloon?",
">\n\nIt was an Estes Rocket",
">\n\nTwo-stager",
">\n\nThat's funny. Why don't they just use Google earth tho?",
">\n\nif they use it they get arrested for using banned websites lol",
">\n\nThe Twitter comments are hilarious, bemoaning the U.S. military for not shooting it down. I am sure that they are much better judges of the value of the spy balloon than the average Twitter user. Maybe they can get good information by tracking it and then capturing it.",
">\n\nits definitely sending/receiving whatever information its getting so it would be beneficial for us to intercept those messages to figure out the intent behind this balloon.",
">\n\nHow did it get all the way to Montana without detection?",
">\n\nWhen they shoot it down there is just a ringing phone inside when they answer it : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.",
">\n\nI’m guessing China just sent those balloons over to find out what the response would be more than anything else, they’ll have hundreds of people poring over news and social media, the best thing to do is probably just ignore it",
">\n\nPretend to ignore it.",
">\n\n“Northern US” so definitely nuclear areas of North Dakota lol",
">\n\nme in north dakota: 😣",
">\n\nUS should definitely try to capture it.",
">\n\nThey will, but are probably feeding it counterintelligence. Signal interceptor most likely, not arial photography .",
">\n\nIt's the MLB. Anyone seen Mark McGwire lately?",
">\n\n““Once the balloon was detected, the U.S. government acted immediately to protect against the collection of sensitive information…” I feel like a big sheet might do the trick or a pin?",
">\n\nWhy does the ballon look like a ninjago palace Lego set?",
">\n\nInternational Gender Reveal!",
">\n\n'found' lol. More like it announced its considerable presence for all and sundry to see.",
">\n\nHow the hell did it get there in the first place though? Like how do you secretly transport a balloon the size of 3 buses, activate it, and then it get that high up before someone thinks “mhmm this is fishy”",
">\n\nIt just makes me laugh, because all they'll see are folks open carrying and shouting at the birds for spying. Meanwhile, the big fucking balloon....\nThis is just a shit stirring move tbh, everything important that can actually do or see anything is in space. Unless they're trying to scoop that pesky laptop.",
">\n\n\"Chinese airballoon over Montana triggers world war 3\" is not on my doomsday bingo this year.",
">\n\nDon't they have satellites? What would be the point of a balloon?",
">\n\nI love the chatter about this balloon... while millions of people in the US and Canada continue to use TikTok with absolutely no concern at all.",
">\n\nI wish we would land it, paint a huge Winnie the Pooh on the side of it and send it back.",
">\n\nhow about taking it down with a laser beam strapped onto a shrieking American Bald Eagle from the USA for the win!",
">\n\nWe'd have to send a red-tailed hawk with it to get the appropriate scream"
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I'm pretty sure that was the previous guy trying to do his boss a solid. | [] |
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Russia, not knowing how to cook, throws spaghetti at the wall before, and during the boil to see if anything sticks.
This is the sign of a big dummy.
No offense. | [
"I'm pretty sure that was the previous guy trying to do his boss a solid."
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Baseless BS. There is not a bigger hater of Putin and his ways than Biden, going back decades before now. Biden wouldn't give him an inch, and is making him pay for every inch of Ukraine with blood and money. It's up to Putin to say when enough criminal slaughter of Innocents is enough. | [
"I'm pretty sure that was the previous guy trying to do his boss a solid.",
">\n\nRussia, not knowing how to cook, throws spaghetti at the wall before, and during the boil to see if anything sticks.\nThis is the sign of a big dummy.\nNo offense."
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omfg people literally don't remember the reason why DT was impeached the first time!
Remember "quid pro quo"? | [
"I'm pretty sure that was the previous guy trying to do his boss a solid.",
">\n\nRussia, not knowing how to cook, throws spaghetti at the wall before, and during the boil to see if anything sticks.\nThis is the sign of a big dummy.\nNo offense.",
">\n\nBaseless BS. There is not a bigger hater of Putin and his ways than Biden, going back decades before now. Biden wouldn't give him an inch, and is making him pay for every inch of Ukraine with blood and money. It's up to Putin to say when enough criminal slaughter of Innocents is enough."
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No, that was literally Mike Flynn. | [
"I'm pretty sure that was the previous guy trying to do his boss a solid.",
">\n\nRussia, not knowing how to cook, throws spaghetti at the wall before, and during the boil to see if anything sticks.\nThis is the sign of a big dummy.\nNo offense.",
">\n\nBaseless BS. There is not a bigger hater of Putin and his ways than Biden, going back decades before now. Biden wouldn't give him an inch, and is making him pay for every inch of Ukraine with blood and money. It's up to Putin to say when enough criminal slaughter of Innocents is enough.",
">\n\nomfg people literally don't remember the reason why DT was impeached the first time!\nRemember \"quid pro quo\"?"
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I cannot find the original NZZ article.
I call shenanigans.
A Quick search seems to indicate that everybody dismisses this as false - even RT!
I do remember there was such talk early last year, though. Not sure it originated from America, or that it followed up on it. So if this isn't completely fake, I guess it's old news.
Just to be very clear: I support Ukraine's stance: it's our land, there's nothing to settle or compromise on, just fuck off already.
It's crystal clear there can be only one way out of this situation: Russia's complete withdrawal. And, IMO, Russia needs to be re-classified as undemocratic, un-humanitarian, totalitarian and violently expansionist.
Moscow reportedly rejected the proposal.
Even if that were true right now: that's the best offer they're ever going to get, and they rejected it. Talk about "The West" being against peace. | [
"I'm pretty sure that was the previous guy trying to do his boss a solid.",
">\n\nRussia, not knowing how to cook, throws spaghetti at the wall before, and during the boil to see if anything sticks.\nThis is the sign of a big dummy.\nNo offense.",
">\n\nBaseless BS. There is not a bigger hater of Putin and his ways than Biden, going back decades before now. Biden wouldn't give him an inch, and is making him pay for every inch of Ukraine with blood and money. It's up to Putin to say when enough criminal slaughter of Innocents is enough.",
">\n\nomfg people literally don't remember the reason why DT was impeached the first time!\nRemember \"quid pro quo\"?",
">\n\nNo, that was literally Mike Flynn."
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I call bullshit | [
"I'm pretty sure that was the previous guy trying to do his boss a solid.",
">\n\nRussia, not knowing how to cook, throws spaghetti at the wall before, and during the boil to see if anything sticks.\nThis is the sign of a big dummy.\nNo offense.",
">\n\nBaseless BS. There is not a bigger hater of Putin and his ways than Biden, going back decades before now. Biden wouldn't give him an inch, and is making him pay for every inch of Ukraine with blood and money. It's up to Putin to say when enough criminal slaughter of Innocents is enough.",
">\n\nomfg people literally don't remember the reason why DT was impeached the first time!\nRemember \"quid pro quo\"?",
">\n\nNo, that was literally Mike Flynn.",
">\n\nI cannot find the original NZZ article.\nI call shenanigans.\nA Quick search seems to indicate that everybody dismisses this as false - even RT!\n\nI do remember there was such talk early last year, though. Not sure it originated from America, or that it followed up on it. So if this isn't completely fake, I guess it's old news.\nJust to be very clear: I support Ukraine's stance: it's our land, there's nothing to settle or compromise on, just fuck off already.\nIt's crystal clear there can be only one way out of this situation: Russia's complete withdrawal. And, IMO, Russia needs to be re-classified as undemocratic, un-humanitarian, totalitarian and violently expansionist.\n\nMoscow reportedly rejected the proposal.\n\nEven if that were true right now: that's the best offer they're ever going to get, and they rejected it. Talk about \"The West\" being against peace."
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"I'm pretty sure that was the previous guy trying to do his boss a solid.",
">\n\nRussia, not knowing how to cook, throws spaghetti at the wall before, and during the boil to see if anything sticks.\nThis is the sign of a big dummy.\nNo offense.",
">\n\nBaseless BS. There is not a bigger hater of Putin and his ways than Biden, going back decades before now. Biden wouldn't give him an inch, and is making him pay for every inch of Ukraine with blood and money. It's up to Putin to say when enough criminal slaughter of Innocents is enough.",
">\n\nomfg people literally don't remember the reason why DT was impeached the first time!\nRemember \"quid pro quo\"?",
">\n\nNo, that was literally Mike Flynn.",
">\n\nI cannot find the original NZZ article.\nI call shenanigans.\nA Quick search seems to indicate that everybody dismisses this as false - even RT!\n\nI do remember there was such talk early last year, though. Not sure it originated from America, or that it followed up on it. So if this isn't completely fake, I guess it's old news.\nJust to be very clear: I support Ukraine's stance: it's our land, there's nothing to settle or compromise on, just fuck off already.\nIt's crystal clear there can be only one way out of this situation: Russia's complete withdrawal. And, IMO, Russia needs to be re-classified as undemocratic, un-humanitarian, totalitarian and violently expansionist.\n\nMoscow reportedly rejected the proposal.\n\nEven if that were true right now: that's the best offer they're ever going to get, and they rejected it. Talk about \"The West\" being against peace.",
">\n\nI call bullshit"
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I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.
Friday:
republicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down
Saturday:
Biden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down. | [] |
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I mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...
All while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down."
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Yeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy."
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It flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.
Apparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft
A statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a "potential second incident" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)
I wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).
This thing is now turning into a little b@itch | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism."
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Been wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO
/s | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch"
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Shoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s"
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They just announced that they did. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so."
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We've got a tracking megathread here | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did."
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I like you, thanks. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here"
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You'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks."
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2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.
You understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3? | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country."
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I realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?"
] |
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I mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s."
] |
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And let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now."
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60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex."
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That's the flex part | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them."
] |
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“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.” | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part"
] |
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At least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.
So don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”"
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The thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic"
] |
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I don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission."
] |
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So you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than "its a weather balloon"? | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem."
] |
>
It’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done.
And if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?"
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It isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.
See there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize."
] |
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Cool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered."
] |
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So really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace.
Maybe you only think what you know. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences."
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I played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know."
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spite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B."
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Right after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure….. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace"
] |
>
Tell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites? | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure….."
] |
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It’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil
If the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?"
] |
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No, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China "we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt"
Shooting it down would send the message "oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security."
It also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes."
] |
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This balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..: | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work."
] |
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Then shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.
If it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying "oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time" | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:"
] |
>
The purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\""
] |
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And America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.
Our airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?
Let's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.
We aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence."
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Oh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence."
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You actually think we’re behind in supersonic missiles tech? You really think the country that hosts 3 of the 5 largest global military contractors is behind in technology? Lol what a joke | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence.",
">\n\nOh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals"
] |
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Right lol it's all propaganda that we are "behind". Besides "supersonic missile tech" is some cold war era shit. I think they mean "hypersonic"...and if you do any reading on the tech we are working on vs Russia/China, ours is far more functional. Theirs are about big claims and propaganda to build nationalism.
Case in point: nuclear powered cruise missiles. Remember when Russia had that explosion in Siberia that was "unofficially" linked to their nuclear cruise missile program? The US basically came out and said yeah, good luck. We did that in the 60s and it wasn't worth the potential fall out.
Absolutely no way we don't have, what I would call, "fuck you tech". Decades of black money given to some of the smartest people in the world behind closed doors? We had the SR-71 in the 60s, the F117 in the 70s(nevermind that it was unknown until the 90s), and the F22 in the 90s which, to this day, is still unrivaled. Let's be real. Why would we show what we have until we need it?
Thos UFO sightings off the coast by the Navy? There is a strong chance that shit is ours. Hence why the government is taking the approach of "hmm, yeah, we'll look into those!". | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence.",
">\n\nOh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals",
">\n\nYou actually think we’re behind in supersonic missiles tech? You really think the country that hosts 3 of the 5 largest global military contractors is behind in technology? Lol what a joke"
] |
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Nailed it | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence.",
">\n\nOh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals",
">\n\nYou actually think we’re behind in supersonic missiles tech? You really think the country that hosts 3 of the 5 largest global military contractors is behind in technology? Lol what a joke",
">\n\nRight lol it's all propaganda that we are \"behind\". Besides \"supersonic missile tech\" is some cold war era shit. I think they mean \"hypersonic\"...and if you do any reading on the tech we are working on vs Russia/China, ours is far more functional. Theirs are about big claims and propaganda to build nationalism.\nCase in point: nuclear powered cruise missiles. Remember when Russia had that explosion in Siberia that was \"unofficially\" linked to their nuclear cruise missile program? The US basically came out and said yeah, good luck. We did that in the 60s and it wasn't worth the potential fall out. \nAbsolutely no way we don't have, what I would call, \"fuck you tech\". Decades of black money given to some of the smartest people in the world behind closed doors? We had the SR-71 in the 60s, the F117 in the 70s(nevermind that it was unknown until the 90s), and the F22 in the 90s which, to this day, is still unrivaled. Let's be real. Why would we show what we have until we need it?\nThos UFO sightings off the coast by the Navy? There is a strong chance that shit is ours. Hence why the government is taking the approach of \"hmm, yeah, we'll look into those!\"."
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Dew it! | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence.",
">\n\nOh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals",
">\n\nYou actually think we’re behind in supersonic missiles tech? You really think the country that hosts 3 of the 5 largest global military contractors is behind in technology? Lol what a joke",
">\n\nRight lol it's all propaganda that we are \"behind\". Besides \"supersonic missile tech\" is some cold war era shit. I think they mean \"hypersonic\"...and if you do any reading on the tech we are working on vs Russia/China, ours is far more functional. Theirs are about big claims and propaganda to build nationalism.\nCase in point: nuclear powered cruise missiles. Remember when Russia had that explosion in Siberia that was \"unofficially\" linked to their nuclear cruise missile program? The US basically came out and said yeah, good luck. We did that in the 60s and it wasn't worth the potential fall out. \nAbsolutely no way we don't have, what I would call, \"fuck you tech\". Decades of black money given to some of the smartest people in the world behind closed doors? We had the SR-71 in the 60s, the F117 in the 70s(nevermind that it was unknown until the 90s), and the F22 in the 90s which, to this day, is still unrivaled. Let's be real. Why would we show what we have until we need it?\nThos UFO sightings off the coast by the Navy? There is a strong chance that shit is ours. Hence why the government is taking the approach of \"hmm, yeah, we'll look into those!\".",
">\n\nNailed it"
] |
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Lol a giant weather balloon flying over rural America is not spying on you. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence.",
">\n\nOh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals",
">\n\nYou actually think we’re behind in supersonic missiles tech? You really think the country that hosts 3 of the 5 largest global military contractors is behind in technology? Lol what a joke",
">\n\nRight lol it's all propaganda that we are \"behind\". Besides \"supersonic missile tech\" is some cold war era shit. I think they mean \"hypersonic\"...and if you do any reading on the tech we are working on vs Russia/China, ours is far more functional. Theirs are about big claims and propaganda to build nationalism.\nCase in point: nuclear powered cruise missiles. Remember when Russia had that explosion in Siberia that was \"unofficially\" linked to their nuclear cruise missile program? The US basically came out and said yeah, good luck. We did that in the 60s and it wasn't worth the potential fall out. \nAbsolutely no way we don't have, what I would call, \"fuck you tech\". Decades of black money given to some of the smartest people in the world behind closed doors? We had the SR-71 in the 60s, the F117 in the 70s(nevermind that it was unknown until the 90s), and the F22 in the 90s which, to this day, is still unrivaled. Let's be real. Why would we show what we have until we need it?\nThos UFO sightings off the coast by the Navy? There is a strong chance that shit is ours. Hence why the government is taking the approach of \"hmm, yeah, we'll look into those!\".",
">\n\nNailed it",
">\n\nDew it!"
] |
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Yet here you are on r/politics commenting on a story that you say isn’t being acknowledged. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence.",
">\n\nOh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals",
">\n\nYou actually think we’re behind in supersonic missiles tech? You really think the country that hosts 3 of the 5 largest global military contractors is behind in technology? Lol what a joke",
">\n\nRight lol it's all propaganda that we are \"behind\". Besides \"supersonic missile tech\" is some cold war era shit. I think they mean \"hypersonic\"...and if you do any reading on the tech we are working on vs Russia/China, ours is far more functional. Theirs are about big claims and propaganda to build nationalism.\nCase in point: nuclear powered cruise missiles. Remember when Russia had that explosion in Siberia that was \"unofficially\" linked to their nuclear cruise missile program? The US basically came out and said yeah, good luck. We did that in the 60s and it wasn't worth the potential fall out. \nAbsolutely no way we don't have, what I would call, \"fuck you tech\". Decades of black money given to some of the smartest people in the world behind closed doors? We had the SR-71 in the 60s, the F117 in the 70s(nevermind that it was unknown until the 90s), and the F22 in the 90s which, to this day, is still unrivaled. Let's be real. Why would we show what we have until we need it?\nThos UFO sightings off the coast by the Navy? There is a strong chance that shit is ours. Hence why the government is taking the approach of \"hmm, yeah, we'll look into those!\".",
">\n\nNailed it",
">\n\nDew it!",
">\n\nLol a giant weather balloon flying over rural America is not spying on you."
] |
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We only need a small amount of threads on it. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence.",
">\n\nOh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals",
">\n\nYou actually think we’re behind in supersonic missiles tech? You really think the country that hosts 3 of the 5 largest global military contractors is behind in technology? Lol what a joke",
">\n\nRight lol it's all propaganda that we are \"behind\". Besides \"supersonic missile tech\" is some cold war era shit. I think they mean \"hypersonic\"...and if you do any reading on the tech we are working on vs Russia/China, ours is far more functional. Theirs are about big claims and propaganda to build nationalism.\nCase in point: nuclear powered cruise missiles. Remember when Russia had that explosion in Siberia that was \"unofficially\" linked to their nuclear cruise missile program? The US basically came out and said yeah, good luck. We did that in the 60s and it wasn't worth the potential fall out. \nAbsolutely no way we don't have, what I would call, \"fuck you tech\". Decades of black money given to some of the smartest people in the world behind closed doors? We had the SR-71 in the 60s, the F117 in the 70s(nevermind that it was unknown until the 90s), and the F22 in the 90s which, to this day, is still unrivaled. Let's be real. Why would we show what we have until we need it?\nThos UFO sightings off the coast by the Navy? There is a strong chance that shit is ours. Hence why the government is taking the approach of \"hmm, yeah, we'll look into those!\".",
">\n\nNailed it",
">\n\nDew it!",
">\n\nLol a giant weather balloon flying over rural America is not spying on you.",
">\n\nYet here you are on r/politics commenting on a story that you say isn’t being acknowledged."
] |
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Yeah over on r/conservative it's almost every thread concerns it. Manufacturing outrage is a bad look. Must be a slow news day. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence.",
">\n\nOh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals",
">\n\nYou actually think we’re behind in supersonic missiles tech? You really think the country that hosts 3 of the 5 largest global military contractors is behind in technology? Lol what a joke",
">\n\nRight lol it's all propaganda that we are \"behind\". Besides \"supersonic missile tech\" is some cold war era shit. I think they mean \"hypersonic\"...and if you do any reading on the tech we are working on vs Russia/China, ours is far more functional. Theirs are about big claims and propaganda to build nationalism.\nCase in point: nuclear powered cruise missiles. Remember when Russia had that explosion in Siberia that was \"unofficially\" linked to their nuclear cruise missile program? The US basically came out and said yeah, good luck. We did that in the 60s and it wasn't worth the potential fall out. \nAbsolutely no way we don't have, what I would call, \"fuck you tech\". Decades of black money given to some of the smartest people in the world behind closed doors? We had the SR-71 in the 60s, the F117 in the 70s(nevermind that it was unknown until the 90s), and the F22 in the 90s which, to this day, is still unrivaled. Let's be real. Why would we show what we have until we need it?\nThos UFO sightings off the coast by the Navy? There is a strong chance that shit is ours. Hence why the government is taking the approach of \"hmm, yeah, we'll look into those!\".",
">\n\nNailed it",
">\n\nDew it!",
">\n\nLol a giant weather balloon flying over rural America is not spying on you.",
">\n\nYet here you are on r/politics commenting on a story that you say isn’t being acknowledged.",
">\n\nWe only need a small amount of threads on it."
] |
>
I never go to that hellhole. I assume Tucker's been tying the balloon to "libs." | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence.",
">\n\nOh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals",
">\n\nYou actually think we’re behind in supersonic missiles tech? You really think the country that hosts 3 of the 5 largest global military contractors is behind in technology? Lol what a joke",
">\n\nRight lol it's all propaganda that we are \"behind\". Besides \"supersonic missile tech\" is some cold war era shit. I think they mean \"hypersonic\"...and if you do any reading on the tech we are working on vs Russia/China, ours is far more functional. Theirs are about big claims and propaganda to build nationalism.\nCase in point: nuclear powered cruise missiles. Remember when Russia had that explosion in Siberia that was \"unofficially\" linked to their nuclear cruise missile program? The US basically came out and said yeah, good luck. We did that in the 60s and it wasn't worth the potential fall out. \nAbsolutely no way we don't have, what I would call, \"fuck you tech\". Decades of black money given to some of the smartest people in the world behind closed doors? We had the SR-71 in the 60s, the F117 in the 70s(nevermind that it was unknown until the 90s), and the F22 in the 90s which, to this day, is still unrivaled. Let's be real. Why would we show what we have until we need it?\nThos UFO sightings off the coast by the Navy? There is a strong chance that shit is ours. Hence why the government is taking the approach of \"hmm, yeah, we'll look into those!\".",
">\n\nNailed it",
">\n\nDew it!",
">\n\nLol a giant weather balloon flying over rural America is not spying on you.",
">\n\nYet here you are on r/politics commenting on a story that you say isn’t being acknowledged.",
">\n\nWe only need a small amount of threads on it.",
">\n\nYeah over on r/conservative it's almost every thread concerns it. Manufacturing outrage is a bad look. Must be a slow news day."
] |
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Why don't we act like adults and try taking them at their word? It clearly hasn't done anything and I doubt it's getting any more info than the multitude of satellites and TikTok accounts are already providing. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence.",
">\n\nOh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals",
">\n\nYou actually think we’re behind in supersonic missiles tech? You really think the country that hosts 3 of the 5 largest global military contractors is behind in technology? Lol what a joke",
">\n\nRight lol it's all propaganda that we are \"behind\". Besides \"supersonic missile tech\" is some cold war era shit. I think they mean \"hypersonic\"...and if you do any reading on the tech we are working on vs Russia/China, ours is far more functional. Theirs are about big claims and propaganda to build nationalism.\nCase in point: nuclear powered cruise missiles. Remember when Russia had that explosion in Siberia that was \"unofficially\" linked to their nuclear cruise missile program? The US basically came out and said yeah, good luck. We did that in the 60s and it wasn't worth the potential fall out. \nAbsolutely no way we don't have, what I would call, \"fuck you tech\". Decades of black money given to some of the smartest people in the world behind closed doors? We had the SR-71 in the 60s, the F117 in the 70s(nevermind that it was unknown until the 90s), and the F22 in the 90s which, to this day, is still unrivaled. Let's be real. Why would we show what we have until we need it?\nThos UFO sightings off the coast by the Navy? There is a strong chance that shit is ours. Hence why the government is taking the approach of \"hmm, yeah, we'll look into those!\".",
">\n\nNailed it",
">\n\nDew it!",
">\n\nLol a giant weather balloon flying over rural America is not spying on you.",
">\n\nYet here you are on r/politics commenting on a story that you say isn’t being acknowledged.",
">\n\nWe only need a small amount of threads on it.",
">\n\nYeah over on r/conservative it's almost every thread concerns it. Manufacturing outrage is a bad look. Must be a slow news day.",
">\n\nI never go to that hellhole. I assume Tucker's been tying the balloon to \"libs.\""
] |
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So you propose we trust them when they say they’re not spying on us because… they’ve already shown that they are willing to spy on us and have done so already?
Think before you write dude, I don’t necessarily even disagree with you but the lack of logic on display here is fuckin baffling. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence.",
">\n\nOh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals",
">\n\nYou actually think we’re behind in supersonic missiles tech? You really think the country that hosts 3 of the 5 largest global military contractors is behind in technology? Lol what a joke",
">\n\nRight lol it's all propaganda that we are \"behind\". Besides \"supersonic missile tech\" is some cold war era shit. I think they mean \"hypersonic\"...and if you do any reading on the tech we are working on vs Russia/China, ours is far more functional. Theirs are about big claims and propaganda to build nationalism.\nCase in point: nuclear powered cruise missiles. Remember when Russia had that explosion in Siberia that was \"unofficially\" linked to their nuclear cruise missile program? The US basically came out and said yeah, good luck. We did that in the 60s and it wasn't worth the potential fall out. \nAbsolutely no way we don't have, what I would call, \"fuck you tech\". Decades of black money given to some of the smartest people in the world behind closed doors? We had the SR-71 in the 60s, the F117 in the 70s(nevermind that it was unknown until the 90s), and the F22 in the 90s which, to this day, is still unrivaled. Let's be real. Why would we show what we have until we need it?\nThos UFO sightings off the coast by the Navy? There is a strong chance that shit is ours. Hence why the government is taking the approach of \"hmm, yeah, we'll look into those!\".",
">\n\nNailed it",
">\n\nDew it!",
">\n\nLol a giant weather balloon flying over rural America is not spying on you.",
">\n\nYet here you are on r/politics commenting on a story that you say isn’t being acknowledged.",
">\n\nWe only need a small amount of threads on it.",
">\n\nYeah over on r/conservative it's almost every thread concerns it. Manufacturing outrage is a bad look. Must be a slow news day.",
">\n\nI never go to that hellhole. I assume Tucker's been tying the balloon to \"libs.\"",
">\n\nWhy don't we act like adults and try taking them at their word? It clearly hasn't done anything and I doubt it's getting any more info than the multitude of satellites and TikTok accounts are already providing."
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My point is that this would be one of the least effective ways of spying on us so the logical conclusion is that they are telling us the truth. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence.",
">\n\nOh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals",
">\n\nYou actually think we’re behind in supersonic missiles tech? You really think the country that hosts 3 of the 5 largest global military contractors is behind in technology? Lol what a joke",
">\n\nRight lol it's all propaganda that we are \"behind\". Besides \"supersonic missile tech\" is some cold war era shit. I think they mean \"hypersonic\"...and if you do any reading on the tech we are working on vs Russia/China, ours is far more functional. Theirs are about big claims and propaganda to build nationalism.\nCase in point: nuclear powered cruise missiles. Remember when Russia had that explosion in Siberia that was \"unofficially\" linked to their nuclear cruise missile program? The US basically came out and said yeah, good luck. We did that in the 60s and it wasn't worth the potential fall out. \nAbsolutely no way we don't have, what I would call, \"fuck you tech\". Decades of black money given to some of the smartest people in the world behind closed doors? We had the SR-71 in the 60s, the F117 in the 70s(nevermind that it was unknown until the 90s), and the F22 in the 90s which, to this day, is still unrivaled. Let's be real. Why would we show what we have until we need it?\nThos UFO sightings off the coast by the Navy? There is a strong chance that shit is ours. Hence why the government is taking the approach of \"hmm, yeah, we'll look into those!\".",
">\n\nNailed it",
">\n\nDew it!",
">\n\nLol a giant weather balloon flying over rural America is not spying on you.",
">\n\nYet here you are on r/politics commenting on a story that you say isn’t being acknowledged.",
">\n\nWe only need a small amount of threads on it.",
">\n\nYeah over on r/conservative it's almost every thread concerns it. Manufacturing outrage is a bad look. Must be a slow news day.",
">\n\nI never go to that hellhole. I assume Tucker's been tying the balloon to \"libs.\"",
">\n\nWhy don't we act like adults and try taking them at their word? It clearly hasn't done anything and I doubt it's getting any more info than the multitude of satellites and TikTok accounts are already providing.",
">\n\nSo you propose we trust them when they say they’re not spying on us because… they’ve already shown that they are willing to spy on us and have done so already?\nThink before you write dude, I don’t necessarily even disagree with you but the lack of logic on display here is fuckin baffling."
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Does anybody know how they know it's Chinese? I know China has confirmed it, but how did they know before that? | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence.",
">\n\nOh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals",
">\n\nYou actually think we’re behind in supersonic missiles tech? You really think the country that hosts 3 of the 5 largest global military contractors is behind in technology? Lol what a joke",
">\n\nRight lol it's all propaganda that we are \"behind\". Besides \"supersonic missile tech\" is some cold war era shit. I think they mean \"hypersonic\"...and if you do any reading on the tech we are working on vs Russia/China, ours is far more functional. Theirs are about big claims and propaganda to build nationalism.\nCase in point: nuclear powered cruise missiles. Remember when Russia had that explosion in Siberia that was \"unofficially\" linked to their nuclear cruise missile program? The US basically came out and said yeah, good luck. We did that in the 60s and it wasn't worth the potential fall out. \nAbsolutely no way we don't have, what I would call, \"fuck you tech\". Decades of black money given to some of the smartest people in the world behind closed doors? We had the SR-71 in the 60s, the F117 in the 70s(nevermind that it was unknown until the 90s), and the F22 in the 90s which, to this day, is still unrivaled. Let's be real. Why would we show what we have until we need it?\nThos UFO sightings off the coast by the Navy? There is a strong chance that shit is ours. Hence why the government is taking the approach of \"hmm, yeah, we'll look into those!\".",
">\n\nNailed it",
">\n\nDew it!",
">\n\nLol a giant weather balloon flying over rural America is not spying on you.",
">\n\nYet here you are on r/politics commenting on a story that you say isn’t being acknowledged.",
">\n\nWe only need a small amount of threads on it.",
">\n\nYeah over on r/conservative it's almost every thread concerns it. Manufacturing outrage is a bad look. Must be a slow news day.",
">\n\nI never go to that hellhole. I assume Tucker's been tying the balloon to \"libs.\"",
">\n\nWhy don't we act like adults and try taking them at their word? It clearly hasn't done anything and I doubt it's getting any more info than the multitude of satellites and TikTok accounts are already providing.",
">\n\nSo you propose we trust them when they say they’re not spying on us because… they’ve already shown that they are willing to spy on us and have done so already?\nThink before you write dude, I don’t necessarily even disagree with you but the lack of logic on display here is fuckin baffling.",
">\n\nMy point is that this would be one of the least effective ways of spying on us so the logical conclusion is that they are telling us the truth."
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Why let the balloon drift? Just tow it out over the ocean and let it go on its way. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence.",
">\n\nOh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals",
">\n\nYou actually think we’re behind in supersonic missiles tech? You really think the country that hosts 3 of the 5 largest global military contractors is behind in technology? Lol what a joke",
">\n\nRight lol it's all propaganda that we are \"behind\". Besides \"supersonic missile tech\" is some cold war era shit. I think they mean \"hypersonic\"...and if you do any reading on the tech we are working on vs Russia/China, ours is far more functional. Theirs are about big claims and propaganda to build nationalism.\nCase in point: nuclear powered cruise missiles. Remember when Russia had that explosion in Siberia that was \"unofficially\" linked to their nuclear cruise missile program? The US basically came out and said yeah, good luck. We did that in the 60s and it wasn't worth the potential fall out. \nAbsolutely no way we don't have, what I would call, \"fuck you tech\". Decades of black money given to some of the smartest people in the world behind closed doors? We had the SR-71 in the 60s, the F117 in the 70s(nevermind that it was unknown until the 90s), and the F22 in the 90s which, to this day, is still unrivaled. Let's be real. Why would we show what we have until we need it?\nThos UFO sightings off the coast by the Navy? There is a strong chance that shit is ours. Hence why the government is taking the approach of \"hmm, yeah, we'll look into those!\".",
">\n\nNailed it",
">\n\nDew it!",
">\n\nLol a giant weather balloon flying over rural America is not spying on you.",
">\n\nYet here you are on r/politics commenting on a story that you say isn’t being acknowledged.",
">\n\nWe only need a small amount of threads on it.",
">\n\nYeah over on r/conservative it's almost every thread concerns it. Manufacturing outrage is a bad look. Must be a slow news day.",
">\n\nI never go to that hellhole. I assume Tucker's been tying the balloon to \"libs.\"",
">\n\nWhy don't we act like adults and try taking them at their word? It clearly hasn't done anything and I doubt it's getting any more info than the multitude of satellites and TikTok accounts are already providing.",
">\n\nSo you propose we trust them when they say they’re not spying on us because… they’ve already shown that they are willing to spy on us and have done so already?\nThink before you write dude, I don’t necessarily even disagree with you but the lack of logic on display here is fuckin baffling.",
">\n\nMy point is that this would be one of the least effective ways of spying on us so the logical conclusion is that they are telling us the truth.",
">\n\nDoes anybody know how they know it's Chinese? I know China has confirmed it, but how did they know before that?"
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How do you expect to tow it at 60k feet?
I'll hang up and listen. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence.",
">\n\nOh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals",
">\n\nYou actually think we’re behind in supersonic missiles tech? You really think the country that hosts 3 of the 5 largest global military contractors is behind in technology? Lol what a joke",
">\n\nRight lol it's all propaganda that we are \"behind\". Besides \"supersonic missile tech\" is some cold war era shit. I think they mean \"hypersonic\"...and if you do any reading on the tech we are working on vs Russia/China, ours is far more functional. Theirs are about big claims and propaganda to build nationalism.\nCase in point: nuclear powered cruise missiles. Remember when Russia had that explosion in Siberia that was \"unofficially\" linked to their nuclear cruise missile program? The US basically came out and said yeah, good luck. We did that in the 60s and it wasn't worth the potential fall out. \nAbsolutely no way we don't have, what I would call, \"fuck you tech\". Decades of black money given to some of the smartest people in the world behind closed doors? We had the SR-71 in the 60s, the F117 in the 70s(nevermind that it was unknown until the 90s), and the F22 in the 90s which, to this day, is still unrivaled. Let's be real. Why would we show what we have until we need it?\nThos UFO sightings off the coast by the Navy? There is a strong chance that shit is ours. Hence why the government is taking the approach of \"hmm, yeah, we'll look into those!\".",
">\n\nNailed it",
">\n\nDew it!",
">\n\nLol a giant weather balloon flying over rural America is not spying on you.",
">\n\nYet here you are on r/politics commenting on a story that you say isn’t being acknowledged.",
">\n\nWe only need a small amount of threads on it.",
">\n\nYeah over on r/conservative it's almost every thread concerns it. Manufacturing outrage is a bad look. Must be a slow news day.",
">\n\nI never go to that hellhole. I assume Tucker's been tying the balloon to \"libs.\"",
">\n\nWhy don't we act like adults and try taking them at their word? It clearly hasn't done anything and I doubt it's getting any more info than the multitude of satellites and TikTok accounts are already providing.",
">\n\nSo you propose we trust them when they say they’re not spying on us because… they’ve already shown that they are willing to spy on us and have done so already?\nThink before you write dude, I don’t necessarily even disagree with you but the lack of logic on display here is fuckin baffling.",
">\n\nMy point is that this would be one of the least effective ways of spying on us so the logical conclusion is that they are telling us the truth.",
">\n\nDoes anybody know how they know it's Chinese? I know China has confirmed it, but how did they know before that?",
">\n\nWhy let the balloon drift? Just tow it out over the ocean and let it go on its way."
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Use military drones w line hooks | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence.",
">\n\nOh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals",
">\n\nYou actually think we’re behind in supersonic missiles tech? You really think the country that hosts 3 of the 5 largest global military contractors is behind in technology? Lol what a joke",
">\n\nRight lol it's all propaganda that we are \"behind\". Besides \"supersonic missile tech\" is some cold war era shit. I think they mean \"hypersonic\"...and if you do any reading on the tech we are working on vs Russia/China, ours is far more functional. Theirs are about big claims and propaganda to build nationalism.\nCase in point: nuclear powered cruise missiles. Remember when Russia had that explosion in Siberia that was \"unofficially\" linked to their nuclear cruise missile program? The US basically came out and said yeah, good luck. We did that in the 60s and it wasn't worth the potential fall out. \nAbsolutely no way we don't have, what I would call, \"fuck you tech\". Decades of black money given to some of the smartest people in the world behind closed doors? We had the SR-71 in the 60s, the F117 in the 70s(nevermind that it was unknown until the 90s), and the F22 in the 90s which, to this day, is still unrivaled. Let's be real. Why would we show what we have until we need it?\nThos UFO sightings off the coast by the Navy? There is a strong chance that shit is ours. Hence why the government is taking the approach of \"hmm, yeah, we'll look into those!\".",
">\n\nNailed it",
">\n\nDew it!",
">\n\nLol a giant weather balloon flying over rural America is not spying on you.",
">\n\nYet here you are on r/politics commenting on a story that you say isn’t being acknowledged.",
">\n\nWe only need a small amount of threads on it.",
">\n\nYeah over on r/conservative it's almost every thread concerns it. Manufacturing outrage is a bad look. Must be a slow news day.",
">\n\nI never go to that hellhole. I assume Tucker's been tying the balloon to \"libs.\"",
">\n\nWhy don't we act like adults and try taking them at their word? It clearly hasn't done anything and I doubt it's getting any more info than the multitude of satellites and TikTok accounts are already providing.",
">\n\nSo you propose we trust them when they say they’re not spying on us because… they’ve already shown that they are willing to spy on us and have done so already?\nThink before you write dude, I don’t necessarily even disagree with you but the lack of logic on display here is fuckin baffling.",
">\n\nMy point is that this would be one of the least effective ways of spying on us so the logical conclusion is that they are telling us the truth.",
">\n\nDoes anybody know how they know it's Chinese? I know China has confirmed it, but how did they know before that?",
">\n\nWhy let the balloon drift? Just tow it out over the ocean and let it go on its way.",
">\n\nHow do you expect to tow it at 60k feet? \nI'll hang up and listen."
] |
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They can hover at 60k feet? | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence.",
">\n\nOh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals",
">\n\nYou actually think we’re behind in supersonic missiles tech? You really think the country that hosts 3 of the 5 largest global military contractors is behind in technology? Lol what a joke",
">\n\nRight lol it's all propaganda that we are \"behind\". Besides \"supersonic missile tech\" is some cold war era shit. I think they mean \"hypersonic\"...and if you do any reading on the tech we are working on vs Russia/China, ours is far more functional. Theirs are about big claims and propaganda to build nationalism.\nCase in point: nuclear powered cruise missiles. Remember when Russia had that explosion in Siberia that was \"unofficially\" linked to their nuclear cruise missile program? The US basically came out and said yeah, good luck. We did that in the 60s and it wasn't worth the potential fall out. \nAbsolutely no way we don't have, what I would call, \"fuck you tech\". Decades of black money given to some of the smartest people in the world behind closed doors? We had the SR-71 in the 60s, the F117 in the 70s(nevermind that it was unknown until the 90s), and the F22 in the 90s which, to this day, is still unrivaled. Let's be real. Why would we show what we have until we need it?\nThos UFO sightings off the coast by the Navy? There is a strong chance that shit is ours. Hence why the government is taking the approach of \"hmm, yeah, we'll look into those!\".",
">\n\nNailed it",
">\n\nDew it!",
">\n\nLol a giant weather balloon flying over rural America is not spying on you.",
">\n\nYet here you are on r/politics commenting on a story that you say isn’t being acknowledged.",
">\n\nWe only need a small amount of threads on it.",
">\n\nYeah over on r/conservative it's almost every thread concerns it. Manufacturing outrage is a bad look. Must be a slow news day.",
">\n\nI never go to that hellhole. I assume Tucker's been tying the balloon to \"libs.\"",
">\n\nWhy don't we act like adults and try taking them at their word? It clearly hasn't done anything and I doubt it's getting any more info than the multitude of satellites and TikTok accounts are already providing.",
">\n\nSo you propose we trust them when they say they’re not spying on us because… they’ve already shown that they are willing to spy on us and have done so already?\nThink before you write dude, I don’t necessarily even disagree with you but the lack of logic on display here is fuckin baffling.",
">\n\nMy point is that this would be one of the least effective ways of spying on us so the logical conclusion is that they are telling us the truth.",
">\n\nDoes anybody know how they know it's Chinese? I know China has confirmed it, but how did they know before that?",
">\n\nWhy let the balloon drift? Just tow it out over the ocean and let it go on its way.",
">\n\nHow do you expect to tow it at 60k feet? \nI'll hang up and listen.",
">\n\nUse military drones w line hooks"
] |
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In the age of advanced satellite imaging and classified technologies for spying purposes, it’s laughable that everyone is making a big deal out of a Chinese balloon. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence.",
">\n\nOh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals",
">\n\nYou actually think we’re behind in supersonic missiles tech? You really think the country that hosts 3 of the 5 largest global military contractors is behind in technology? Lol what a joke",
">\n\nRight lol it's all propaganda that we are \"behind\". Besides \"supersonic missile tech\" is some cold war era shit. I think they mean \"hypersonic\"...and if you do any reading on the tech we are working on vs Russia/China, ours is far more functional. Theirs are about big claims and propaganda to build nationalism.\nCase in point: nuclear powered cruise missiles. Remember when Russia had that explosion in Siberia that was \"unofficially\" linked to their nuclear cruise missile program? The US basically came out and said yeah, good luck. We did that in the 60s and it wasn't worth the potential fall out. \nAbsolutely no way we don't have, what I would call, \"fuck you tech\". Decades of black money given to some of the smartest people in the world behind closed doors? We had the SR-71 in the 60s, the F117 in the 70s(nevermind that it was unknown until the 90s), and the F22 in the 90s which, to this day, is still unrivaled. Let's be real. Why would we show what we have until we need it?\nThos UFO sightings off the coast by the Navy? There is a strong chance that shit is ours. Hence why the government is taking the approach of \"hmm, yeah, we'll look into those!\".",
">\n\nNailed it",
">\n\nDew it!",
">\n\nLol a giant weather balloon flying over rural America is not spying on you.",
">\n\nYet here you are on r/politics commenting on a story that you say isn’t being acknowledged.",
">\n\nWe only need a small amount of threads on it.",
">\n\nYeah over on r/conservative it's almost every thread concerns it. Manufacturing outrage is a bad look. Must be a slow news day.",
">\n\nI never go to that hellhole. I assume Tucker's been tying the balloon to \"libs.\"",
">\n\nWhy don't we act like adults and try taking them at their word? It clearly hasn't done anything and I doubt it's getting any more info than the multitude of satellites and TikTok accounts are already providing.",
">\n\nSo you propose we trust them when they say they’re not spying on us because… they’ve already shown that they are willing to spy on us and have done so already?\nThink before you write dude, I don’t necessarily even disagree with you but the lack of logic on display here is fuckin baffling.",
">\n\nMy point is that this would be one of the least effective ways of spying on us so the logical conclusion is that they are telling us the truth.",
">\n\nDoes anybody know how they know it's Chinese? I know China has confirmed it, but how did they know before that?",
">\n\nWhy let the balloon drift? Just tow it out over the ocean and let it go on its way.",
">\n\nHow do you expect to tow it at 60k feet? \nI'll hang up and listen.",
">\n\nUse military drones w line hooks",
">\n\nThey can hover at 60k feet?"
] |
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They will find many of Ivanka's shoes. | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence.",
">\n\nOh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals",
">\n\nYou actually think we’re behind in supersonic missiles tech? You really think the country that hosts 3 of the 5 largest global military contractors is behind in technology? Lol what a joke",
">\n\nRight lol it's all propaganda that we are \"behind\". Besides \"supersonic missile tech\" is some cold war era shit. I think they mean \"hypersonic\"...and if you do any reading on the tech we are working on vs Russia/China, ours is far more functional. Theirs are about big claims and propaganda to build nationalism.\nCase in point: nuclear powered cruise missiles. Remember when Russia had that explosion in Siberia that was \"unofficially\" linked to their nuclear cruise missile program? The US basically came out and said yeah, good luck. We did that in the 60s and it wasn't worth the potential fall out. \nAbsolutely no way we don't have, what I would call, \"fuck you tech\". Decades of black money given to some of the smartest people in the world behind closed doors? We had the SR-71 in the 60s, the F117 in the 70s(nevermind that it was unknown until the 90s), and the F22 in the 90s which, to this day, is still unrivaled. Let's be real. Why would we show what we have until we need it?\nThos UFO sightings off the coast by the Navy? There is a strong chance that shit is ours. Hence why the government is taking the approach of \"hmm, yeah, we'll look into those!\".",
">\n\nNailed it",
">\n\nDew it!",
">\n\nLol a giant weather balloon flying over rural America is not spying on you.",
">\n\nYet here you are on r/politics commenting on a story that you say isn’t being acknowledged.",
">\n\nWe only need a small amount of threads on it.",
">\n\nYeah over on r/conservative it's almost every thread concerns it. Manufacturing outrage is a bad look. Must be a slow news day.",
">\n\nI never go to that hellhole. I assume Tucker's been tying the balloon to \"libs.\"",
">\n\nWhy don't we act like adults and try taking them at their word? It clearly hasn't done anything and I doubt it's getting any more info than the multitude of satellites and TikTok accounts are already providing.",
">\n\nSo you propose we trust them when they say they’re not spying on us because… they’ve already shown that they are willing to spy on us and have done so already?\nThink before you write dude, I don’t necessarily even disagree with you but the lack of logic on display here is fuckin baffling.",
">\n\nMy point is that this would be one of the least effective ways of spying on us so the logical conclusion is that they are telling us the truth.",
">\n\nDoes anybody know how they know it's Chinese? I know China has confirmed it, but how did they know before that?",
">\n\nWhy let the balloon drift? Just tow it out over the ocean and let it go on its way.",
">\n\nHow do you expect to tow it at 60k feet? \nI'll hang up and listen.",
">\n\nUse military drones w line hooks",
">\n\nThey can hover at 60k feet?",
">\n\nIn the age of advanced satellite imaging and classified technologies for spying purposes, it’s laughable that everyone is making a big deal out of a Chinese balloon."
] |
> | [
"I suspect that plan is already formulated and in process.\nFriday:\nrepublicans: Biden is weak he didn't shoot it down. I would have already shot it down\nSaturday:\nBiden shot it down and the Chinese are now angry at us. Biden shouldn't have shot it down.",
">\n\nI mean, the Republicans are currently bitching about a Congressman who was pursued by Chinese spy, reported it and was investigated and cleared by the FBI 10 years ago...\nAll while curiously overlooking that a former President just a few years ago had lied about having a secret Chinese Bank account, then lied about closing it when he was caught, or the Chinese spy caught with multiple USBs wandering around Mar-a-Lago where classified material was insecurely and openly stored, or the former Senate Majority Leader and his wife former Secretary of Transportation who's received millions from her high-level CCP family members like her father who was right hand man to the previous Chinese Premier and her sister is responsible for building the CCP Navy.",
">\n\nYeah these people make no sense in a rational world. They don't work based on rational thinking. Its all just no position criticism.",
">\n\nIt flew over the Yukon, BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan.\nApparently as it flew over Canada, the Canadian defense department said it launched a second object / vehicle which can pose a problem to lower altitude aircraft\n\nA statement from the Defence Department also mentioned it was monitoring a \"potential second incident\" but did not elaborate further. Sources told CTV News that a smaller object may have been released from the balloon that might pose a risk to planes. A flight advisory was issued to pilots in Alberta and Saskatchewan in response.)\n\nI wonder what they’re planning to do about this 2nd object it may have launched into Canada, and what will become of it (assuming it’s not heading towards an ocean).\nThis thing is now turning into a little b@itch",
">\n\nBeen wanting to see the capabilities of the Jewish space lasers for a while now LETS GOOOO\n/s",
">\n\nShoot the fucker down when it's safe to do so.",
">\n\nThey just announced that they did.",
">\n\nWe've got a tracking megathread here",
">\n\nI like you, thanks.",
">\n\nYou'd think with all the republicans believing the China released covid on purpose, that they would be wary of an overly obvious balloon that's begging to be shot down. Great way to make your enemy release a bioweapon in their own country.",
">\n\n2nd time seeing this wacko bio weapon theory.\nYou understand that would be an overt act of war, deploying a wmd over another nations territory, right? Why would China do that? What benefits are there for China to intentionally start ww3?",
">\n\nI realize it, but I guess I needed to add the /s.",
">\n\nI mean they prob got all the intel they could from the balloon and since it would be over the ocean makes sense they would shoot it down now.",
">\n\nAnd let’s take it out with a vintage WWII plane just for the flex.",
">\n\n60000 feet is above the operational height of WWII aircraft - all of them.",
">\n\nThat's the flex part",
">\n\n“In the meantime, the relationship will not improve in the near future ... the gap is huge.”",
">\n\nAt least from a map I saw on reddit yesterday, the Balloon did a remarkable job mostly AVOIDING the pacific ocean and crossing instead over the Baring Strait, across Alaska, Canada and to the 48 States of the US.\nSo don't be so sure its gonna go over the Atlantic",
">\n\nThe thing can obviously navigate if it paralleled half the DEW line and then headed south like a goose with a mission.",
">\n\nI don’t accept the idea that there’s no way the U.S. military couldn’t intercept it and bring it down without it risking hitting people below. It’s a slow moving weather balloon. If we can pit people on the moon I’m sure there’s a way to engineer this problem.",
">\n\nSo you don't accept that judgement based on what information other than \"its a weather balloon\"?",
">\n\nIt’s as I said — this isn’t shooting a rocket or plane out of the sky, it’s a slow moving object. If America had set the priority to destroy this thing as quickly as possible I don’t have doubts it would already be done. \nAnd if that’s truly outside of the realm of its military capabilities, then America is in a lot more trouble than many might realize.",
">\n\nIt isn't they can't shoot it down. They can't control where is falls. Additionally maybe they are studying it and also it isn't worth shooting it down. Maybe there are a ton of other answers you haven't considered.\nSee there are actually other possible options, thoughts and conclusions you might have considered.",
">\n\nCool, and meanwhile America has made it clear China can enter restricted airspace with no consequences.",
">\n\nSo really... Yet another statement which is only your observation. The US knew about the balloon before it entered Alaska airspace. \nMaybe you only think what you know.",
">\n\nI played enough Bloons to know we've only got 39 more rounds until the M.O.A.B.",
">\n\nspite? I am sure all info has already been transmitted, next time shoot it down before entering airspace",
">\n\nRight after it finishes transmitting all it’s critical data about our infrastructure…..",
">\n\nTell me how a balloon is more effective than spy satellites?",
">\n\nIt’s very likely not. Most likely this was just taunting America and the fact they let it hang around for a few days projects weakness that we know a nation like China would not reciprocate if the same thing happened on their soil\nIf the tables were reversed that thing would have been shot out of the sky in minutes.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn't project weakness. It says to China \"we dont care about your silly little balloon, we are secure enough in our methods to value American lives over your silly little stunt\"\nShooting it down would send the message \"oh shit, we must react right away because a balloon is a definite threat to our national security.\"\nIt also shows how weak China is because it tells the world that they are relying on a balloon to do their spy work.",
">\n\nThis balloon wasn’t sent to do their spy work..:",
">\n\nThen shooting it down wouldn't serve a purpose to protect any American intelligence secrets.\nIf it's only purpose was to taunt the US, then not shooting it down but still acknowledging its existence is America saying \"oh, that's cute China, be sure to try harder next time\"",
">\n\nThe purpose would be to make clear that America still cares to secure its airspace, which China just deliberately and openly violated without consequence.",
">\n\nAnd America is giving a big middle finger to China by not taking obvious bait.\nOur airspace is secure, what threat does this balloon pose?\nLet's say we did shoot it out of the sky? That would give away tracking methods and response time. Plus the Chinese government would have ammo to say that the USA is scared of an obvious weather balloon.\nWe aren't ignoring it, in fact we are probably learning lots of counter intelligence from its existence.",
">\n\nOh really? How come lol. No clue why it's not down already, no clue why we are behind on SuperSonic missiles either, I think the Democrats and Republicans just fight while the rest of the world hates us and builds up there. Arsenals",
">\n\nYou actually think we’re behind in supersonic missiles tech? You really think the country that hosts 3 of the 5 largest global military contractors is behind in technology? Lol what a joke",
">\n\nRight lol it's all propaganda that we are \"behind\". Besides \"supersonic missile tech\" is some cold war era shit. I think they mean \"hypersonic\"...and if you do any reading on the tech we are working on vs Russia/China, ours is far more functional. Theirs are about big claims and propaganda to build nationalism.\nCase in point: nuclear powered cruise missiles. Remember when Russia had that explosion in Siberia that was \"unofficially\" linked to their nuclear cruise missile program? The US basically came out and said yeah, good luck. We did that in the 60s and it wasn't worth the potential fall out. \nAbsolutely no way we don't have, what I would call, \"fuck you tech\". Decades of black money given to some of the smartest people in the world behind closed doors? We had the SR-71 in the 60s, the F117 in the 70s(nevermind that it was unknown until the 90s), and the F22 in the 90s which, to this day, is still unrivaled. Let's be real. Why would we show what we have until we need it?\nThos UFO sightings off the coast by the Navy? There is a strong chance that shit is ours. Hence why the government is taking the approach of \"hmm, yeah, we'll look into those!\".",
">\n\nNailed it",
">\n\nDew it!",
">\n\nLol a giant weather balloon flying over rural America is not spying on you.",
">\n\nYet here you are on r/politics commenting on a story that you say isn’t being acknowledged.",
">\n\nWe only need a small amount of threads on it.",
">\n\nYeah over on r/conservative it's almost every thread concerns it. Manufacturing outrage is a bad look. Must be a slow news day.",
">\n\nI never go to that hellhole. I assume Tucker's been tying the balloon to \"libs.\"",
">\n\nWhy don't we act like adults and try taking them at their word? It clearly hasn't done anything and I doubt it's getting any more info than the multitude of satellites and TikTok accounts are already providing.",
">\n\nSo you propose we trust them when they say they’re not spying on us because… they’ve already shown that they are willing to spy on us and have done so already?\nThink before you write dude, I don’t necessarily even disagree with you but the lack of logic on display here is fuckin baffling.",
">\n\nMy point is that this would be one of the least effective ways of spying on us so the logical conclusion is that they are telling us the truth.",
">\n\nDoes anybody know how they know it's Chinese? I know China has confirmed it, but how did they know before that?",
">\n\nWhy let the balloon drift? Just tow it out over the ocean and let it go on its way.",
">\n\nHow do you expect to tow it at 60k feet? \nI'll hang up and listen.",
">\n\nUse military drones w line hooks",
">\n\nThey can hover at 60k feet?",
">\n\nIn the age of advanced satellite imaging and classified technologies for spying purposes, it’s laughable that everyone is making a big deal out of a Chinese balloon.",
">\n\nThey will find many of Ivanka's shoes."
] |
This story has been updated.
A U.S. military aircraft on Saturday downed the suspected Chinese surveillance balloon that had been floating over the United States for several days, according to eyewitness video circulating on social media.
The balloon was brought down just off the Atlantic Coast, shortly after the Federal Aviation Administration, citing an unspecified security situation, announced ground stops for all flights in and out of Wilmington, N.C., Myrtle Beach, S.C., and Charleston, S.C.
In a statement, the agency said the ground stop was to “support the Department of Defense in a national security effort.”
The balloon was disclosed to the public on Thursday after appearing over Montana the day before, prompting a temporary stoppage of all flights out of the airport in Billings. On Friday a second Chinese spy balloon was spotted over Latin America, the Pentagon said. U.S. officials say there is likely a third such balloon conducting surveillance in another part of the world. | [] |
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