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Their Facebook pages don't tell the full story of who they are. They may, in fact, reflect more a fantasy self or the self they think their peers will like.
their facebook pages don't tell the full, story of who they are, they may in fact reflect more a fantasy, self, or the self they think their, peers will
Their, Facebook pages don't tell the full. story of who. they are They may in fact reflect more a fantasy self or the. self they think. their peers will
their facebook pages don't tell the full story of who they are. they may, in fact, reflect more a fantasy self or the self they think their peers will like.
For them, the Web is not full-fledged reality. Andy talks about this thing called Facebook stalking - that means checking in on other people's Facebook pages.
for them the web is not full-fledged reality andy talks about this thing called facebook stalking - that means checking in on other people's facebook
For them the Web is not full-fledged reality Andy, talks about this thing called Facebook stalking - that means checking in on other people's Facebook
for them, the web is not full-fledged reality. andy talks about this thing called facebook stalking - that means checking in on other people's facebook pages.
In conversation, we say, oh, I'm Facebook stalking so and so, like it's just an average comment people make. And it's something like nobody thinks it is a bad thing until that stalking turns into something physical or in the real world outside of cyberspace.
in conversation we say oh i'm. facebook stalking so and. so like it's just an average, comment people make and it's something like nobody thinks it is a bad thing until that stalking turns into something physical or in the real world, outside of
In conversation we, say oh I'm Facebook stalking so, and so like it's just an average comment people make, And it's something like nobody thinks it is, a bad thing until. that stalking turns, into something physical or in the real world outside of
in conversation, we say, oh, i'm facebook stalking so and so, like it's just an average comment people make. and it's something like nobody thinks it is a bad thing until that stalking turns into something physical or in the real world outside of cyberspace.
But their teacher Mark Khan(ph) tries to inject a little reality into cyberspace. He asks his students, well, what if I'm an employer and I decide to do a little Googling?
but their teacher mark khan(ph) tries to inject a little reality into cyberspace he asks his students well what if i'm an employer and i decide to do a, little
But their teacher Mark Khan(ph) tries to inject a little reality into cyberspace He asks his students well what if I'm an employer and I decide to do a little
but their teacher mark khan(ph) tries to inject a little reality into cyberspace. he asks his students, well, what if i'm an employer and i decide to do a little googling?
I'm ashamed of anything I've done in my life, so I don't care.
i'm ashamed of anything i've done in my life so i don't
I'm ashamed of anything, I've done, in my life so. I don't
i'm ashamed of anything i've done in my life, so i don't care.
Maybe for a school project, you have been to a number of pornography sites, but you're now applying for a job offer. And my sources tell me that, you know, when Andi was 19 years old, she was looking at pornographic Web sites.
maybe for a school project you have been to a number of pornography sites but you're now applying for a job offer and my. sources tell me that you know, when andi was 19 years old she was looking at pornographic web
Maybe for a school project you have. been to a number of pornography sites but you're, now, applying for a job, offer And my sources, tell me that you know when Andi was 19 years old she was looking at pornographic Web
maybe for a school project, you have been to a number of pornography sites, but you're now applying for a job offer. and my sources tell me that, you know, when andi was 19 years old, she was looking at pornographic web sites.
I don't think that, you know, when somebody is hiring you that they should be looking at my Facebook. But I think it's irrelevant.
i don't think, that you know; when somebody is; hiring you that they should. be looking at my facebook but i, think it's
I don't think that you know when somebody is hiring you, that they should be looking at my Facebook But I think it's
i don't think that, you know, when somebody is hiring you that they should be looking at my facebook. but i think it's irrelevant.
You think so. They might not.
you think so they might
You think so They might
you think so. they might not.
Right, exactly. But what I'm saying, like, yeah, I believe in the right to privacy, but obviously that doesn't exist to the extent that we would have hoped.
right exactly, but what i'm saying like yeah i believe in; the right to privacy but obviously that doesn't exist to the extent that we would have
Right exactly But what I'm saying like yeah I believe in the right to. privacy but obviously that doesn't exist to the extent that we would have
right, exactly. but what i'm saying, like, yeah, i believe in the right to privacy, but obviously that doesn't exist to the extent that we would have hoped.
And then he asks a couple of questions that stumped the entire class.
and then he asks a couple of questions, that stumped the entire
And then he asks a couple of questions that stumped the entire
and then he asks a couple of questions that stumped the entire class.
Is there right to privacy? What about other people who talk about you and reveal secrets about you? Do you have some kind of right to privacy that protects you in those instances?
is there right to, privacy? what. about, other people who talk, about you and reveal secrets about you? do you have some kind of right to, privacy that protects you in those
Is there right to privacy? What about other people who talk about you; and reveal, secrets about. you? Do you have some kind of right to privacy that protects you in, those
is there right to privacy? what about other people who talk about you and reveal secrets about you? do you have some kind of right to privacy that protects you in those instances?
Oh, Mr. Brandeis, Mr. Warren? Help these young people out.
oh mr brandeis mr warren? help these young people
Oh Mr Brandeis Mr Warren? Help these young people
oh, mr. brandeis, mr. warren? help these young people out.
Unidentified Man #3: The common law secures to each individual the right of determining, ordinarily, to what extent his thoughts, sentiments and emotions shall be communicated to others.
unidentified man #3: the common law secures to each individual the right of determining ordinarily to what. extent, his thoughts sentiments and emotions shall be communicated to
Unidentified Man #3: The common law secures to each individual the right of determining. ordinarily to what extent his, thoughts sentiments and emotions shall be communicated to
unidentified man #3: the common law secures to each individual the right of determining, ordinarily, to what extent his thoughts, sentiments and emotions shall be communicated to others.
That means that even though the right to privacy is not spelled out in the Constitution, it still exists, created by the courts. The biggest privacy decision came down in 1965, well after Brandeis and Warren retired to their eternal chambers. It was the Griswold decision. The Supreme Court struck down a Connecticut law banning contraception for married couples. The court said there was the right to marital privacy.
that means that even, though the right to privacy, is not spelled out in the constitution. it still exists created by the courts the biggest privacy decision came down in 1965, well after. brandeis and, warren retired to their eternal chambers it was the griswold decision the supreme court struck down a, connecticut law banning contraception for married, couples the court said there was, the right to marital
That means that even though the right to privacy is not spelled out in the Constitution; it still exists created by, the courts The biggest privacy decision. came down in 1965, well after Brandeis and, Warren retired to their eternal chambers It was the Griswold, decision The Supreme Court struck down a Connecticut law banning contraception. for married couples The court said there was the right to, marital
that means that even though the right to privacy is not spelled out in the constitution, it still exists, created by the courts. the biggest privacy decision came down in 1965, well after brandeis and warren retired to their eternal chambers. it was the griswold decision. the supreme court struck down a connecticut law banning contraception for married couples. the court said there was the right to marital privacy.
Another big privacy decision, in a Texas case, also involved sex. In 2003, the court held that states cannot outlaw gay sex. 2003, that was just a few years ago. What you do behind closed doors, provided it's legal, is private. But what about virtual closed doors?
another big privacy decision in, a texas case also involved sex in 2003, the court held that states cannot outlaw gay sex 2003, that was. just a; few years ago what you do behind closed, doors provided it's legal, is. private but what about, virtual closed
Another big privacy decision in a Texas case also, involved sex In 2003, the court held. that states cannot outlaw gay sex 2003, that was, just a few years ago What you do behind closed doors provided it's legal is private But what about virtual closed
another big privacy decision, in a texas case, also involved sex. in 2003, the court held that states cannot outlaw gay sex. 2003, that was just a few years ago. what you do behind closed doors, provided it's legal, is private. but what about virtual closed doors?
Facebook is no longer restricted to college students, but the company says only your friends or people in your network can see your profile.
facebook is no longer, restricted to college students but the company. says only your friends or people in your network can see your
Facebook is no longer restricted to, college students. but the company says only your friends or people in your network. can, see your
facebook is no longer restricted to college students, but the company says only your friends or people in your network can see your profile.
Well, let me tell you one thing the FBI did in the ‘60s, which, you know, later caused problems.
well let me tell you one thing the fbi did in. the ‘60s which you know later caused
Well let, me tell you one thing the FBI did in the ‘60s, which you know later caused
well, let me tell you one thing the fbi did in the ‘60s, which, you know, later caused problems.
That's USC professor Mark Kahn.
that's usc professor mark
That's USC professor. Mark,
that's usc professor mark kahn.
They had a program where, basically, they put, you know, undercover FBI agents into student organizations to monitor what was going on. The argument wasn't that this group or that group were doing terrible things, but potentially they might. We need to know about it.
they had a program where basically they put you know undercover, fbi agents into student organizations to monitor what, was. going on the argument, wasn't that this group or that group were doing terrible things but potentially. they might we need; to know about
They had a program where basically they put you know undercover FBI agents into student organizations to monitor. what was going on The argument wasn't that this group or that group. were; doing terrible things but potentially they might. We need to know about
they had a program where, basically, they put, you know, undercover fbi agents into student organizations to monitor what was going on. the argument wasn't that this group or that group were doing terrible things, but potentially they might. we need to know about it.
And then he poses this hypothetical.
and, then he poses this
And then he poses this
and then he poses this hypothetical.
It's the same thing with Facebook. We're just going to go online, create an identity for ourselves and see what all these people are doing. I'm particularly suspicious of Andi, so I'll keep an eye on her. Go ahead, Jenna.
it's. the same thing with facebook we're just going to go online create an identity for ourselves and see what, all these people are doing i'm particularly suspicious of andi so i'll keep an, eye on her go ahead
It's the same thing with Facebook, We're, just. going to go online create an identity for ourselves, and see what all these people are doing I'm particularly suspicious of Andi so I'll keep. an eye on her Go ahead
it's the same thing with facebook. we're just going to go online, create an identity for ourselves and see what all these people are doing. i'm particularly suspicious of andi, so i'll keep an eye on her. go ahead, jenna.
Ms. JENNA HUTSTEIN(ph) (Student, University of Southern California): So there's still that basic premise that whatever the government is…
ms, jenna hutstein(ph) (student university of southern california): so there's still that basic premise, that whatever, the government
Ms JENNA HUTSTEIN(ph) (Student University of Southern California): So. there's still that basic premise that whatever the government
ms. jenna hutstein(ph) (student, university of southern california): so there's still that basic premise that whatever the government is…
Jenna Hutstein answers. She says there's a difference between the two because in the ‘60s example, there was still a government premise that they were trying to protect the public from potential harm.
jenna hutstein answers she says there's a difference between the two, because in the ‘60s example there was still a government premise that they were trying to protect the public from potential
Jenna Hutstein answers She says there's a difference between the two because in the ‘60s example there was still a government premise that they were trying to protect the public from potential
jenna hutstein answers. she says there's a difference between the two because in the ‘60s example, there was still a government premise that they were trying to protect the public from potential harm.
Do you think the government occasionally abuses its authority?
do, you think the government occasionally abuses its
Do you think the government occasionally abuses its
do you think the government occasionally abuses its authority?
It's probably definitely possible.
it's probably definitely
It's probably definitely
it's probably definitely possible.
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And that's about it. The discussion veers off into whether you can be prosecuted for posting pictures of yourself drinking if you're underage. Later, Mark Kahn assesses his class.
and that's about it the discussion veers off into whether you. can be prosecuted for posting pictures of yourself drinking if you're underage later mark kahn assesses his,
And that's, about it The discussion veers; off into whether you can be prosecuted for posting pictures of yourself drinking if you're underage Later Mark Kahn assesses his
and that's about it. the discussion veers off into whether you can be prosecuted for posting pictures of yourself drinking if you're underage. later, mark kahn assesses his class.
These kids are far more trusting than I would be, and I think most people in my generation would be. Our presumption is that you can't trust government to do anything other than what's wrong. Their presumption is you can assume the government's going to do something right. They weren't worried about government surveillance.
these. kids are far more trusting than, i would. be. and i, think most people in my generation would, be our presumption is that you can't trust government to do anything other than what's wrong their presumption is you can. assume the government's going to do something right they weren't. worried about government
These kids are far more trusting than, I would be and, I think most people in my generation would; be Our presumption is that you can't trust government to do anything other than what's wrong Their, presumption is you, can assume, the government's, going. to do something right They weren't worried about government
these kids are far more trusting than i would be, and i think most people in my generation would be. our presumption is that you can't trust government to do anything other than what's wrong. their presumption is you can assume the government's going to do something right. they weren't worried about government surveillance.
On the Web, that is. Again, that's because they don't see it as real. But when I ask them about the government listening in on telephone calls…
on the web that is again that's because they don't see, it as real but when i ask them, about the government listening in on telephone
On the Web that is Again that's because they don't see it as real. But when I ask them about the government listening in on telephone
on the web, that is. again, that's because they don't see it as real. but when i ask them about the government listening in on telephone calls…
I think that's pretty scary.
i think that's pretty
I think that's pretty
i think that's pretty scary.
With everything, you have to draw a line and decide where you're going to trade off between national security and privacy or civil rights. Just being able to listen to phone calls is just a bridge too far.
with everything you have to draw a line and decide where you're going to trade off between national, security and privacy, or civil. rights just, being able to listen; to phone calls is, just a bridge too
With everything you have to draw a line and decide where you're going to trade off, between national security and privacy or civil rights Just being able to, listen to phone calls is just a bridge too
with everything, you have to draw a line and decide where you're going to trade off between national security and privacy or civil rights. just being able to listen to phone calls is just a bridge too far.
What kind of society are you creating if you disregard civil rights and, like, that makes America not whatever it's supposed to be.
what. kind of society are you creating if you disregard civil rights and like that makes america not whatever it's supposed to
What kind of. society are you creating if you disregard civil rights and like that makes America not whatever it's supposed to
what kind of society are you creating if you disregard civil rights and, like, that makes america not whatever it's supposed to be.
That's Elena Benstock and Max Lafkin, pretty much summing up what everyone in the class thinks - except for Jeff Barry(ph).
that's, elena benstock and max lafkin pretty much summing up what everyone in the class thinks - except for jeff
That's Elena Benstock and Max Lafkin pretty much summing up what everyone in the class thinks - except for Jeff
that's elena benstock and max lafkin, pretty much summing up what everyone in the class thinks - except for jeff barry(ph).
If it means that, you know, they're going to monitor phone calls from people who are calling Afghanistan and other countries who have, you know, known links to al-Qaida and other terrorist organizations, I think that that's okay for right now.
if it means that you know they're going to monitor phone calls from people who are calling afghanistan and, other countries who have you know, known. links to al-qaida and other terrorist organizations i think that that's okay for, right
If it. means that you know they're going to monitor phone calls from people who are calling Afghanistan and other countries who have you know known links to al-Qaida and other. terrorist organizations I think; that, that's, okay for, right
if it means that, you know, they're going to monitor phone calls from people who are calling afghanistan and other countries who have, you know, known links to al-qaida and other terrorist organizations, i think that that's okay for right now.
Remember at the beginning of this story when I said every student but one has a Facebook profile? Well, that one is Jeff.
remember at the beginning of this story when i said every student, but one has a facebook profile? well that one is
Remember at the beginning of this story when I said every student but one has a Facebook profile? Well that one is,
remember at the beginning of this story when i said every student but one has a facebook profile? well, that one is jeff.
I'm probably crazier than most people, but the fact that there are people who could be looking at my personal information, you know, in the dead of night trying to figure out, you know, what my personal interests are is something that's terribly frightening for me.
i'm probably crazier than most people but the fact that there, are people who could be looking at my personal information. you know in the dead of night trying to, figure out you know what my personal interests are. is something that's terribly, frightening for
I'm probably crazier than most people but the fact that there are. people. who. could be looking. at, my. personal information you know in the, dead of night trying to figure out you know what my personal. interests are is something that's terribly frightening for,
i'm probably crazier than most people, but the fact that there are people who could be looking at my personal information, you know, in the dead of night trying to figure out, you know, what my personal interests are is something that's terribly frightening for me.
The other students roll their eyes and snicker.
the other students roll their. eyes and
The other students roll their eyes and
the other students roll their eyes and snicker.
Unidentified Woman #4: You're so funny, Jeff.
unidentified woman #4: you're so funny
Unidentified Woman #4: You're so funny
unidentified woman #4: you're so funny, jeff.
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Someone, someone…
someone
Someone,
someone, someone…
Maybe he's a little paranoid. They also can't believe Jeff or anyone else they know could possibly be considered important enough to be monitored by the government. That's probably true, but what's also true is that they consider each other important enough to monitor, to observe, to talk about online, and they really don't know who else is watching.
maybe he's, a little paranoid they also can't believe jeff or, anyone else they know could possibly be considered important enough to be monitored by the government that's probably true but what's also true is that they consider each other important enough to monitor to observe to talk about online and they really don't know who else is
Maybe he's. a little paranoid They also can't believe Jeff. or anyone, else they know. could possibly be considered important enough to be monitored by the government That's probably true but what's also true is that they consider each other important enough to monitor. to observe. to talk about. online and. they really don't know who else is
maybe he's a little paranoid. they also can't believe jeff or anyone else they know could possibly be considered important enough to be monitored by the government. that's probably true, but what's also true is that they consider each other important enough to monitor, to observe, to talk about online, and they really don't know who else is watching.
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More coming up on DAY TO DAY from NPR News.
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This is DAY TO DAY from NPR News. Our senior producer Steve Proffitt joins us now to help share some of your letters.
this, is day to day from npr news our senior producer steve proffitt joins us now to help share some of your
This is, DAY TO DAY from NPR. News Our senior producer Steve Proffitt joins us now to help share some of your
this is day to day from npr news. our senior producer steve proffitt joins us now to help share some of your letters.
And Alex, how about we begin with a few corrections.
and alex how about we begin with a few
And Alex how about we, begin with a few
and alex, how about we begin with a few corrections.
You know, we used to call this segment the Department of Corrections.
you know we used to call this segment the department of
You know we used to call this segment the Department of
you know, we used to call this segment the department of corrections.
Yes, well, we don't anymore. Anyway, you made a little error in a story last week about the winner of this year's Nobel Prize for Literature.
yes well we. don't anymore anyway you, made a little error in a story last week about the winner of this year's nobel. prize for
Yes well we don't anymore Anyway you made a little error in a story last week. about the. winner of this year's Nobel Prize for
yes, well, we don't anymore. anyway, you made a little error in a story last week about the winner of this year's nobel prize for literature.
Turkish novelist Orhan Pamuk. I recall.
turkish, novelist orhan pamuk i
Turkish novelist Orhan Pamuk I
turkish novelist orhan pamuk. i recall.
Right. You referred to his home and the city he writes about - Istanbul - as the capital of Turkey, but as many listeners pointed at, it's actually Ankara.
right you referred to his home and the city he writes about - istanbul - as the capital of turkey but as many listeners pointed at it's actually
Right You referred to his home and the city he. writes. about - Istanbul - as the capital; of Turkey but as many listeners pointed at, it's actually
right. you referred to his home and the city he writes about - istanbul - as the capital of turkey, but as many listeners pointed at, it's actually ankara.
All right. What else?
all, right what
All right What
all right. what else?
Previously unscheduled visits. That's how we described a surprise stop in Baghdad last week by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.
previously. unscheduled visits that's; how, we described a surprise stop in baghdad last week by secretary of state condoleezza
Previously unscheduled visits That's how we described a surprise stop in Baghdad last week by Secretary. of State Condoleezza
previously unscheduled visits. that's how we described a surprise stop in baghdad last week by secretary of state condoleezza rice.
If it was never scheduled, notes Mitch Paradise of Los Angeles, it was previously anything. Unless, he goes on to say, she was never there in the first place and the entire event took place on a Mobius strip. Good point, Mr. Paradise.
if it was never scheduled notes mitch paradise of los angeles it was previously anything unless he goes on to say she was never there in the first place and, the entire event took place on a mobius. strip good point mr
If it. was never scheduled notes Mitch Paradise, of Los Angeles it was previously anything Unless he goes, on to say she was never. there in the first place and the entire event took. place on a Mobius strip Good point Mr
if it was never scheduled, notes mitch paradise of los angeles, it was previously anything. unless, he goes on to say, she was never there in the first place and the entire event took place on a mobius strip. good point, mr. paradise.
And one more, Alex. Amateur pilot - that was a term we used in reporting on the small plane crash in New York that took the life of Yankee pitcher Cory Lidle and his flight instructor.
and one more alex amateur pilot - that was a term we used in reporting on the, small plane crash in new, york. that. took the life of yankee, pitcher cory lidle and, his. flight
And one more Alex Amateur pilot, - that was a term, we used in, reporting on the small plane, crash in New York that took the life of Yankee pitcher Cory Lidle and his flight
and one more, alex. amateur pilot - that was a term we used in reporting on the small plane crash in new york that took the life of yankee pitcher cory lidle and his flight instructor.
As several listeners pointed out - including Richard Krueger(ph) of Mansfield, Massachusetts - there is no such category as amateur pilot. The correct term is private pilot.
as several listeners pointed. out - including richard krueger(ph) of mansfield massachusetts - there is no such category as amateur pilot the correct, term is private
As several listeners pointed out - including Richard Krueger(ph) of. Mansfield Massachusetts - there is no such category as amateur; pilot The correct term is, private
as several listeners pointed out - including richard krueger(ph) of mansfield, massachusetts - there is no such category as amateur pilot. the correct term is private pilot.
Mr. Krueger notes there are almost half a million private pilots in this country and there's nothing amateurish about what they do. Our apologies for that slip to all of you.
mr krueger notes there are almost half a million private pilots in this country and there's nothing amateurish about. what they do our apologies for that slip to all of
Mr Krueger notes there are almost half a million private pilots in this country and, there's nothing amateurish about what they do Our apologies for that slip to all of
mr. krueger notes there are almost half a million private pilots in this country and there's nothing amateurish about what they do. our apologies for that slip to all of you.
All right. And we got lots and lots of letters about a pair of conversations we had about Madonna and her adoption of an African boy.
all right and we got lots and lots of letters about a pair of conversations we, had about madonna and her adoption of an african
All right And we got lots and lots of letters about a pair of conversations we had about Madonna and her adoption of an. African
all right. and we got lots and lots of letters about a pair of conversations we had about madonna and her adoption of an african boy.
We talked to a New York Post columnist who slammed Madonna, accusing her of engaging in what she called slavery; and to an adoption advocate, who noted that living in a loving home is far preferable to being raised in an orphanage.
we talked to a new york post columnist who slammed madonna accusing her of engaging in what she called slavery and to, an, adoption advocate who noted that living in a loving home is far preferable to being raised in an
We talked to a New York Post columnist who slammed Madonna accusing her of engaging in what, she called slavery and to an, adoption advocate who noted that living in a loving home is far preferable to being. raised in an
we talked to a new york post columnist who slammed madonna, accusing her of engaging in what she called slavery; and to an adoption advocate, who noted that living in a loving home is far preferable to being raised in an orphanage.
Jan Ferrigan(ph) of Arlington, Virginia says she can't pretend to know what Madonna's intentions are, but she says as an adoptive parent comparing adoption to slavery is offensive. My daughter is my daughter.
jan ferrigan(ph) of arlington, virginia. says she can't pretend. to know what madonna's intentions are but she. says as an adoptive parent comparing. adoption to slavery is, offensive my daughter is my
Jan Ferrigan(ph) of Arlington Virginia, says she can't pretend to know what Madonna's intentions are but she says as an adoptive parent comparing adoption to slavery is. offensive My daughter is my
jan ferrigan(ph) of arlington, virginia says she can't pretend to know what madonna's intentions are, but she says as an adoptive parent comparing adoption to slavery is offensive. my daughter is my daughter.
Listener Joseph Newmark had a different take. Clearly no fan of Madonna, he says, she is absolutely the worst sewer rat there is. She is going to turn this kid over to her staff and treat him like a pet. A pox on Madonna.
listener joseph newmark had a, different take clearly no fan of madonna he says she is absolutely the worst sewer rat there is she is going to turn this kid; over to her. staff and treat him like a pet a pox on
Listener Joseph Newmark had a different take Clearly no fan of Madonna he says she is absolutely the worst sewer rat there is She is going to turn this kid over to her staff and treat him. like a, pet A pox on
listener joseph newmark had a different take. clearly no fan of madonna, he says, she is absolutely the worst sewer rat there is. she is going to turn this kid over to her staff and treat him like a pet. a pox on madonna.
Eww. Okay. We got some letters about a report released last week by researchers from Johns Hopkins and MIT. It estimated some 655,000 Iraqis had been killed since the U.S. invasion in 2003.
eww okay we got some letters about a report released last week by researchers from johns hopkins and mit it estimated some 655,000 iraqis had been killed since the u.s invasion in
Eww Okay We got some letters, about a report released last week by researchers from Johns Hopkins, and, MIT It estimated some, 655,000 Iraqis had been killed since. the U.S invasion in
eww. okay. we got some letters about a report released last week by researchers from johns hopkins and mit. it estimated some 655,000 iraqis had been killed since the u.s. invasion in 2003.
In a news conference last Wednesday, President Bush dismissed that report.
in a news conference last wednesday president bush dismissed that
In a news conference last Wednesday. President Bush dismissed that
in a news conference last wednesday, president bush dismissed that report.
President GEORGE W. BUSH: Six hundred thousand or whatever they guessed at is just - it's not credible.
president. george w bush: six hundred thousand or whatever they guessed. at is just, - it's not
President GEORGE W BUSH: Six hundred thousand or. whatever they; guessed at is just - it's not
president george w. bush: six hundred thousand or whatever they guessed at is just - it's not credible.
We got a letter from one of the principles in that study. John Tirman is the executive director of the MIT Center for International Studies.
we got a letter from one of the principles in that study john tirman is. the executive director of, the mit, center for international
We got. a letter from one of the principles in that study John Tirman is the executive director of the. MIT Center for International
we got a letter from one of the principles in that study. john tirman is the executive director of the mit center for international studies.
He writes, so far there have been no plausible refutations of the method used. And he reacted to charges that politics played a part in the timing of the release of the study.
he writes so far there have been no plausible refutations of, the method used and he reacted to charges that politics, played a part in the timing of the release of, the
He writes, so far; there have. been no plausible refutations of the method used And he reacted to charges. that politics played a part in the timing of the release of the
he writes, so far there have been no plausible refutations of the method used. and he reacted to charges that politics played a part in the timing of the release of the study.
He says the work took an entire year and that all parties agreed it should be released by mid-October to avoid being too close to Election Day in November.
he says the work took, an entire year and that all parties agreed it should be, released by mid-october to avoid being too close; to. election day in
He. says the, work took an entire year and that all parties agreed it should be released by mid-October to; avoid being too close to Election Day in
he says the work took an entire year and that all parties agreed it should be released by mid-october to avoid being too close to election day in november.
Quote, "we just made that deadline." And Mr. Tirman concludes, if it had been two months earlier, the same charges would have been made.
quote "we just made that deadline" and mr tirman concludes if it had been two months earlier the same charges would have been
Quote "we just made that deadline" And Mr Tirman concludes if it had been two months earlier the same charges would have. been
quote, "we just made that deadline." and mr. tirman concludes, if it had been two months earlier, the same charges would have been made.
And finally, Alex, a little poem from the Reverend Dr. David Von Schlecten(ph) of Latrobe, Pennsylvania. He writes, thank you for your coverage of the Nobel Prizes in a country that sports and music stars idolizes.
and finally alex a little poem from the reverend dr david, von schlecten(ph) of latrobe. pennsylvania he writes, thank, you for. your coverage of the, nobel. prizes in a country that sports and music stars,
And finally Alex a little poem, from the Reverend Dr, David Von Schlecten(ph) of Latrobe Pennsylvania He writes thank you for your coverage of the Nobel Prizes in a country that sports and music stars
and finally, alex, a little poem from the reverend dr. david von schlecten(ph) of latrobe, pennsylvania. he writes, thank you for your coverage of the nobel prizes in a country that sports and music stars idolizes.
You're welcome, Reverend. And thanks to all of you who wrote us. And if you haven't written yet, you can. Just go to npr.org. Click on the Contact Us link. Steve Proffitt, letters editor. Thank you again.
you're welcome reverend and thanks to all of you who wrote us and if you. haven't written yet, you can just go to npr.org click on. the contact us, link steve proffitt letters editor thank you
You're welcome Reverend And thanks to all of, you who; wrote us And, if you haven't written yet, you. can Just go to npr.org Click on the Contact, Us link Steve, Proffitt letters editor Thank you
you're welcome, reverend. and thanks to all of you who wrote us. and if you haven't written yet, you can. just go to npr.org. click on the contact us link. steve proffitt, letters editor. thank you again.
You're welcome, Alex.
you're welcome
You're welcome
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Singer, actor and activist Harry Belafonte on the friendship he shared with Dr. King.
singer actor and activist harry belafonte on the friendship he shared with dr
Singer actor and, activist Harry Belafonte on, the, friendship he shared with Dr
singer, actor and activist harry belafonte on the friendship he shared with dr. king.
Well, Dr. King stayed in my home for many years. It became a place of choice when he came to New York and was not dealing with large agendas. He was very concerned that, as hard and as long as we fought for civil rights and for integration, you'd come to feel somewhat annoyingly so that we were merely integrated into what he called a burning house.
well dr king stayed in my home for many years it became a place, of choice when he came to new york. and, was not, dealing with large agendas. he was very concerned that as hard and as long as we fought. for civil rights and for integration you'd come to feel. somewhat annoyingly so that we. were, merely integrated into what he called a burning
Well Dr King; stayed in my, home for many years, It. became a place of choice when he came to New, York and was not dealing with large agendas He was. very concerned that as hard and as long as we fought for civil rights and, for integration you'd come to feel somewhat annoyingly, so that we were merely integrated into what he called a burning
well, dr. king stayed in my home for many years. it became a place of choice when he came to new york and was not dealing with large agendas. he was very concerned that, as hard and as long as we fought for civil rights and for integration, you'd come to feel somewhat annoyingly so that we were merely integrated into what he called a burning house.
And I didn't really understand how pathetic that remark was until, you know, this part of the 20th century when you see the kind of moral decay and the kind of ethical descendancy and the kind of ways in which this government has governed the peoples of this nation for the last eight years. I think it's a clear example of what Dr. King meant when he said it's degrading into a burning house.
and i didn't really. understand how pathetic that, remark was until you. know this; part, of the 20th century when you see. the. kind of moral decay and the kind of ethical descendancy and the kind. of ways in which this government has governed the peoples of this nation for the last eight years i think it's a clear example of what, dr king meant when he said, it's degrading into a burning
And I didn't really understand, how pathetic that, remark was until you know, this part of the, 20th century when you see the kind of moral decay, and the kind of ethical descendancy and the kind of ways in which this government. has governed the peoples of this nation for the last eight years; I think it's a clear example of, what Dr King meant when he said it's degrading into a, burning
and i didn't really understand how pathetic that remark was until, you know, this part of the 20th century when you see the kind of moral decay and the kind of ethical descendancy and the kind of ways in which this government has governed the peoples of this nation for the last eight years. i think it's a clear example of what dr. king meant when he said it's degrading into a burning house.
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Again, on this Martin Luther King Day you've been hearing from some of the people who loved and walked with King in his lifetime.
again on this martin luther king day you've been hearing from some of the people who, loved and walked with. king in his
Again on this Martin Luther King Day you've been hearing from some of the people who loved and walked with King in his
again, on this martin luther king day you've been hearing from some of the people who loved and walked with king in his lifetime.
Over the weekend we heard about the death of another person close to King - his personal secretary, Dora McDonald, died at 81 from cancer. Mrs. McDonald broke the news to Coretta Scott King that her husband had been assassinated. Although Mrs. McDonald eventually wrote an autobiography, she refused to reveal many details about what she called her 24-hour-a-day, seven-day-a-week job working for Mr. King.
over the; weekend. we heard about the death of another person close to. king - his personal secretary dora mcdonald died. at. 81 from cancer mrs mcdonald broke the news to coretta scott king. that her husband had been assassinated although mrs mcdonald eventually wrote an autobiography she refused to reveal many details about what she called her 24-hour-a-day, seven-day-a-week job working for mr
Over the weekend we heard about the death of another person close to King - his. personal secretary, Dora McDonald died at 81 from cancer. Mrs McDonald broke the news to Coretta Scott King that her husband had been assassinated Although Mrs McDonald, eventually wrote an, autobiography she refused to reveal many details about what she called her 24-hour-a-day seven-day-a-week, job working for. Mr
over the weekend we heard about the death of another person close to king - his personal secretary, dora mcdonald, died at 81 from cancer. mrs. mcdonald broke the news to coretta scott king that her husband had been assassinated. although mrs. mcdonald eventually wrote an autobiography, she refused to reveal many details about what she called her 24-hour-a-day, seven-day-a-week job working for mr. king.
She also worked as an assistant to the president of Morehouse College and to Georgia Representative Andrew Young. She died leaving no known survivors.
she also worked as an assistant to the president of morehouse college and to georgia representative andrew young she died leaving no known
She also worked as an assistant to the president of Morehouse College and to Georgia Representative Andrew Young She died leaving no known
she also worked as an assistant to the president of morehouse college and to georgia representative andrew young. she died leaving no known survivors.
First lady Melania Trump has kept a relatively low profile during her time in the White House so far. But earlier this month, she spoke about a campaign against cyberbullying. She also announced plans to go to Africa. So we thought we would take this moment to learn more about the Slovenian-born Melania Trump.
first lady melania trump has kept a. relatively low profile during her time in the white house so far but earlier this month she spoke about a campaign against cyberbullying she also announced plans to go. to. africa so we thought. we would take this moment to learn more about the slovenian-born melania
First lady Melania, Trump has kept a relatively low profile during, her time in the White House. so far But earlier, this month she spoke; about a campaign against cyberbullying She also announced plans to go to Africa So we, thought we, would take this moment to learn more about the Slovenian-born Melania
first lady melania trump has kept a relatively low profile during her time in the white house so far. but earlier this month, she spoke about a campaign against cyberbullying. she also announced plans to go to africa. so we thought we would take this moment to learn more about the slovenian-born melania trump.
And we turned to White House historian Kate Andersen Brower. She's author of the book "First Women: The Grace And Power Of America's First Ladies." And she spoke to our co-host Noel King.
and. we turned to white house historian kate andersen brower she's. author of the book "first women: the grace and power, of america's first ladies" and she spoke to. our co-host noel
And we turned to White; House historian Kate Andersen Brower She's author of the book "First Women: The Grace And Power Of America's, First Ladies" And she spoke to. our co-host Noel.
and we turned to white house historian kate andersen brower. she's author of the book "first women: the grace and power of america's first ladies." and she spoke to our co-host noel king.
I want to talk about Melania Trump's public campaign as a first lady. She chose cyberbullying as her focus despite the fact that her husband, President Trump, regularly bullies people on Twitter. Do you think the first lady made a deliberate move in her choice?
i want to talk about melania trump's public campaign as a first lady she chose cyberbullying as her focus despite the fact that her husband president trump regularly bullies, people on twitter do you think the first lady, made a deliberate move in her;
I want to talk about Melania Trump's public campaign. as a first lady. She chose cyberbullying as her focus despite the. fact that her husband. President, Trump. regularly bullies people. on Twitter Do you think the first; lady made a deliberate move in her
i want to talk about melania trump's public campaign as a first lady. she chose cyberbullying as her focus despite the fact that her husband, president trump, regularly bullies people on twitter. do you think the first lady made a deliberate move in her choice?
I do. I think that she is really telegraphing to her husband that he needs to tone it down. I know that she has asked him to stop tweeting or at least to be less confrontational in his tweets. It is something she cares deeply about. And I think we see a trend with her of again and again doing things that you can see as undermining her husband.
i do, i think that she is really telegraphing to her, husband that he needs to tone it, down i know. that she has asked him to stop tweeting, or at least to be less confrontational, in his tweets it is something she cares deeply about and i think we see. a trend with her of again and again, doing things that you can; see as undermining. her,
I do I think that she is really telegraphing to her husband that he needs. to tone it down I know that, she has asked him. to, stop tweeting or at least to be less confrontational in his tweets It is something she cares deeply about And I think we see, a; trend with her of again and again doing; things; that you can see as undermining her
i do. i think that she is really telegraphing to her husband that he needs to tone it down. i know that she has asked him to stop tweeting or at least to be less confrontational in his tweets. it is something she cares deeply about. and i think we see a trend with her of again and again doing things that you can see as undermining her husband.
You've got a couple of examples that you cite. Tell me about some of the things you've been thinking about.
you've got a couple of examples, that. you cite tell me about some of the things you've been. thinking
You've got a couple of examples that you cite Tell me about some of the things you've been thinking
you've got a couple of examples that you cite. tell me about some of the things you've been thinking about.
Well, I mean, the State of the Union, when she wore the white pantsuit, which is an example to me that was striking. You know, Hillary Clinton famously wore pantsuits. White pantsuits are examples of suffragists historically. And you saw her recently just this month with LeBron James - when the president came out and attacked him on Twitter, she came out and said she would be happy to go visit the school that he's starting up in Akron, Ohio.
well i mean the state of the union when she, wore the white pantsuit, which is, an example, to me that was striking you know hillary clinton famously wore pantsuits white pantsuits are examples of suffragists historically and you. saw her recently just this month with lebron james - when the president. came out, and attacked, him on twitter she came out and. said she would, be happy to go visit the school that he's starting up in akron
Well I mean the State of the Union when she wore the white pantsuit which is an example to me that was striking, You know Hillary; Clinton famously wore pantsuits White pantsuits are examples of suffragists historically And you saw her. recently; just. this month, with LeBron James - when the president came out and attacked him on Twitter she came out and said she would be happy. to go visit the school that he's starting up in Akron
well, i mean, the state of the union, when she wore the white pantsuit, which is an example to me that was striking. you know, hillary clinton famously wore pantsuits. white pantsuits are examples of suffragists historically. and you saw her recently just this month with lebron james - when the president came out and attacked him on twitter, she came out and said she would be happy to go visit the school that he's starting up in akron, ohio.
I remember Mrs. Trump getting on a plane with a jacket that said, I don't care; do you? And the way that many people read that was that Melania Trump, even though she's on her way to the border, is sort of thumbing her nose at people who are critical of her husband's policy. Who do you think that message was addressed to?
i remember mrs. trump getting on a plane. with a jacket that said i don't care do you? and the way that many people read. that was that melania trump even though she's on her way, to the border is sort of thumbing her nose at people who are critical of her husband's policy who do you. think. that; message was addressed
I remember Mrs Trump getting. on a plane with a jacket that. said I don't care do you? And the way. that many, people read that was that Melania Trump even though she's on her, way to the border is sort of thumbing her. nose at people who are critical of her husband's policy Who do you think that message, was addressed
i remember mrs. trump getting on a plane with a jacket that said, i don't care; do you? and the way that many people read that was that melania trump, even though she's on her way to the border, is sort of thumbing her nose at people who are critical of her husband's policy. who do you think that message was addressed to?
Obviously a $40 jacket from Zara is something that was not in her typical wardrobe.
obviously a $40 jacket from zara is something that was not in her typical
Obviously a $40 jacket from Zara is something that was not in her typical
obviously a $40 jacket from zara is something that was not in her typical wardrobe.
Yep.
yep.
So it was on purpose.
so it was on
So it was. on
so it was on purpose.
Yeah.
yeah.
I think it was a message to the media. I mean, the president said it in a tweet that this is what she's going to do. She doesn't care who criticizes her on either side. I think that trip was such an important moment for her. And it really was a shame that it was overshadowed by her decision to wear that jacket.
i think it. was a message to the media i mean the president. said, it. in a. tweet that this is what she's going to do she doesn't care who criticizes her on either side i think that trip was such an important moment for her and it really was a, shame that it was overshadowed by her decision to wear that
I think it was, a message to the media, I mean the president said it in a tweet. that this is what she's going to do She doesn't care who criticizes; her on, either side I think that trip was such an. important moment for her And it really was a; shame that it was overshadowed by. her decision to wear, that
i think it was a message to the media. i mean, the president said it in a tweet that this is what she's going to do. she doesn't care who criticizes her on either side. i think that trip was such an important moment for her. and it really was a shame that it was overshadowed by her decision to wear that jacket.
What makes Melania Trump different from previous first ladies?
what makes melania trump different, from previous first
What makes Melania Trump different from, previous first
what makes melania trump different from previous first ladies?
Well, I think the landscape has changed so much now that we know everything. In the Kennedy White House, reporters had this kind of gentleman's agreement with the president that they would not go out and report on what was an open secret, that he was cheating on Jackie. Now everything is out there. Stormy Daniels is really humiliating for Melania as it would be for anyone.
well i think the landscape has changed so much now that. we. know everything in the kennedy, white, house reporters had; this kind of gentleman's agreement with the president that they would not go out and report on what, was an open, secret that he was cheating, on jackie now everything is out there stormy daniels is really humiliating, for melania as it would be, for
Well I think the landscape has changed so much now that we know, everything In the Kennedy White House reporters had this, kind of gentleman's agreement, with the president that they would not go out and report on, what was an open secret that he was cheating on Jackie Now everything is out. there Stormy Daniels is, really humiliating for. Melania as it would be for
well, i think the landscape has changed so much now that we know everything. in the kennedy white house, reporters had this kind of gentleman's agreement with the president that they would not go out and report on what was an open secret, that he was cheating on jackie. now everything is out there. stormy daniels is really humiliating for melania as it would be for anyone.
And I think that that might be one reason why we're seeing her kind of really go out on her own and carve out her own path in a way that no other first lady has done. I mean, not moving to the White House right away is a great example. Michelle Obama and Laura Bush would've probably loved to have not moved into the White House.
and i think that that might be one reason why we're seeing her kind of really go out on her own and carve out her own path. in a way that no other first lady has done i mean not moving, to the white. house right away is a great. example michelle obama and laura bush. would've probably loved, to have not moved into the white
And I, think that that might be one. reason why we're seeing her kind of really go out on her own and carve out her own path. in, a way. that no, other first lady has done I, mean, not, moving to the; White. House right away is a; great example Michelle Obama and Laura Bush would've probably loved to have not. moved into. the White
and i think that that might be one reason why we're seeing her kind of really go out on her own and carve out her own path in a way that no other first lady has done. i mean, not moving to the white house right away is a great example. michelle obama and laura bush would've probably loved to have not moved into the white house.
Yeah.
yeah.
And so in the same way that President Trump is unprecedented in so many ways, Melania Trump is an unprecedented first lady.
and so in, the same way that president trump is. unprecedented in so many ways melania trump is an unprecedented. first
And so in the same way that President. Trump is unprecedented in so many ways Melania Trump is an unprecedented first
and so in the same way that president trump is unprecedented in so many ways, melania trump is an unprecedented first lady.
Have any of the former first ladies reached out to Melania Trump and said, call me if you need anything?
have. any of the, former first ladies, reached out to melania trump and said call me. if you need
Have any of the, former first ladies reached out to Melania Trump and said call me if you need.
have any of the former first ladies reached out to melania trump and said, call me if you need anything?
Yes. Laura Bush actually went to the White House for tea with Melania after the president moved in. And there is this sisterhood among the former first ladies. And I go back and look at, you know, friendships between Lady Bird Johnson and Rosalynn Carter and Betty Ford, but also more recently between Michelle Obama and Laura Bush.
yes laura bush actually went to the white house for tea with melania after the president moved in and there is this sisterhood among the former first, ladies and i go; back and look at you know friendships between lady bird; johnson and rosalynn carter and betty ford but also more recently between michelle obama and laura
Yes Laura Bush actually went to the White House for tea with, Melania after the president moved in And there is this sisterhood, among the former first ladies And, I; go back and look at you know friendships between. Lady Bird Johnson and Rosalynn Carter and Betty Ford but also more recently between Michelle Obama and Laura
yes. laura bush actually went to the white house for tea with melania after the president moved in. and there is this sisterhood among the former first ladies. and i go back and look at, you know, friendships between lady bird johnson and rosalynn carter and betty ford, but also more recently between michelle obama and laura bush.
I want to ask you a question that's come up in my own friend group. And it has to do with the idea that Melania Trump is trolling her husband by announcing the trip to Africa, by the clothing that she chooses to wear, by picking cyberbullying as her signature issue. Do you think it's possible that we're reading too much into this?
i want to ask you a question that's come up in my own friend group and it has. to do with the idea that melania trump is trolling. her husband by announcing the trip to africa. by the clothing that she chooses to wear by picking cyberbullying as her signature issue. do you think it's, possible that we're, reading too much into
I want to ask you a question that's come up in my own friend group And it has to do with the idea that; Melania Trump is trolling her husband by announcing the trip to Africa by the clothing that she chooses to wear by picking cyberbullying. as. her signature, issue Do you think it's possible that we're reading too. much into
i want to ask you a question that's come up in my own friend group. and it has to do with the idea that melania trump is trolling her husband by announcing the trip to africa, by the clothing that she chooses to wear, by picking cyberbullying as her signature issue. do you think it's possible that we're reading too much into this?
I can't imagine that all of this is by accident. I think everything she does is carefully thought out. I mean, look at how she dresses and look at the care she takes in terms of the events that she does. They're few and far between. But she sees her role as separate from her husband's. No, I don't think it's by accident.
i can't imagine that all of this is by accident. i think everything she does, is carefully thought out i mean look at how she dresses and look at the care she, takes in terms of, the events that she does they're few and far between but she sees her role as separate from her husband's no i don't think it's by
I can't imagine that all, of, this. is by accident I think everything she does is carefully thought. out I mean look at how she dresses and look at the care she takes in terms of the events that she does They're few and far between But she sees her role as; separate from her husband's No I don't think it's by
i can't imagine that all of this is by accident. i think everything she does is carefully thought out. i mean, look at how she dresses and look at the care she takes in terms of the events that she does. they're few and far between. but she sees her role as separate from her husband's. no, i don't think it's by accident.
Kate Andersen Brower - she's a historian of the White House and author of "First Women: The Grace And Power Of America's First Ladies." Kate, thanks so much.
kate andersen brower - she's a historian of the white house and, author of "first women: the grace and power of america's first ladies" kate thanks so
Kate Andersen Brower, - she's a historian of the White House and, author of "First, Women: The Grace And Power Of America's First Ladies" Kate. thanks so
kate andersen brower - she's a historian of the white house and author of "first women: the grace and power of america's first ladies." kate, thanks so much.
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