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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
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For what I know, it's a natural constant feeling and you should not be ashamed about it. In my experience, it took me a year and a half to learn stuff I didn't learn in my MsC and I learned during my PhD. Now I'm more accostumed to things like genomics and NGS, compared to when I started. I still feel behind, but now I have a decent grasp. I suggest you to exercise on the stuff you have troubles with until you feel you understand what you are doing and why you are doing it.
When I was in grad school, I stumbled up against a question I couldn't find an answer to. I googled, I pubmeded, and I was stumped. So I asked the senior postdoc in the lab. He knew EVERYTHING -- every technique, every paper, every important person. When I asked, he shrugged, and said, "Nobody knows. Do the experiment." So I did! And I think that's when I arrived at the place you're describing. I no longer felt like "the more you learn, the more you know you don't know." I had gotten to the bottom of the problem. Eventually, in academic science, you carve out a little niche of new knowledge that no one else knows. And inside your little niche of expertise, you are pretty comfortable in your knowledge -- or at least the knowledge that no one else knows any better than you do.
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghkqfuv
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When I was in grad school, I stumbled up against a question I couldn't find an answer to. I googled, I pubmeded, and I was stumped. So I asked the senior postdoc in the lab. He knew EVERYTHING -- every technique, every paper, every important person. When I asked, he shrugged, and said, "Nobody knows. Do the experiment." So I did! And I think that's when I arrived at the place you're describing. I no longer felt like "the more you learn, the more you know you don't know." I had gotten to the bottom of the problem. Eventually, in academic science, you carve out a little niche of new knowledge that no one else knows. And inside your little niche of expertise, you are pretty comfortable in your knowledge -- or at least the knowledge that no one else knows any better than you do.
Nope! There is ALWAYS more detail to learn about every topic.
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kng3m1
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghko7kx
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Well eventually it becomes that we as humans don’t know anything. But in the same sense that’s why we are researchers. To get answers.
When I was in grad school, I stumbled up against a question I couldn't find an answer to. I googled, I pubmeded, and I was stumped. So I asked the senior postdoc in the lab. He knew EVERYTHING -- every technique, every paper, every important person. When I asked, he shrugged, and said, "Nobody knows. Do the experiment." So I did! And I think that's when I arrived at the place you're describing. I no longer felt like "the more you learn, the more you know you don't know." I had gotten to the bottom of the problem. Eventually, in academic science, you carve out a little niche of new knowledge that no one else knows. And inside your little niche of expertise, you are pretty comfortable in your knowledge -- or at least the knowledge that no one else knows any better than you do.
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kng3m1
askacademia_train
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghldkd3
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I think that Terry Pratchett said it best: > Universities are truly storehouses for knowledge: students arrive from school confident they know nearly everything, and they leave five years later certain that they know practically nothing. Where did the knowledge go in the meantime? In the university, of course, where it is dried and stored. From the Science of Discworld series, I believe. Like all Pratchett books brilliantly written, these ones are nice pop-science books about the universe and evolution. Highly recommended.
I suspect it won't end. But the important distinction is that you know *why* you don't know anything.
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kng3m1
askacademia_train
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghkq4ub
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As a former advisor of mine, who is one of the top in my field, says "those who succeed were just stupid enough to try it in the first place!"
I think that Terry Pratchett said it best: > Universities are truly storehouses for knowledge: students arrive from school confident they know nearly everything, and they leave five years later certain that they know practically nothing. Where did the knowledge go in the meantime? In the university, of course, where it is dried and stored. From the Science of Discworld series, I believe. Like all Pratchett books brilliantly written, these ones are nice pop-science books about the universe and evolution. Highly recommended.
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kng3m1
askacademia_train
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghldkd3
ghkq6jw
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I think that Terry Pratchett said it best: > Universities are truly storehouses for knowledge: students arrive from school confident they know nearly everything, and they leave five years later certain that they know practically nothing. Where did the knowledge go in the meantime? In the university, of course, where it is dried and stored. From the Science of Discworld series, I believe. Like all Pratchett books brilliantly written, these ones are nice pop-science books about the universe and evolution. Highly recommended.
Nope, but at some point you hopefully learn to admit to utter ignorance with grace, and to extend that same grace to your equally-ignorant colleagues when you know something they don't.
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kng3m1
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghldkd3
ghkh4md
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I think that Terry Pratchett said it best: > Universities are truly storehouses for knowledge: students arrive from school confident they know nearly everything, and they leave five years later certain that they know practically nothing. Where did the knowledge go in the meantime? In the university, of course, where it is dried and stored. From the Science of Discworld series, I believe. Like all Pratchett books brilliantly written, these ones are nice pop-science books about the universe and evolution. Highly recommended.
On one hand, I realize how little I know, but on the other hand, I've learned to value things about myself besides the amount I know.
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kng3m1
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghkp0xn
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For what I know, it's a natural constant feeling and you should not be ashamed about it. In my experience, it took me a year and a half to learn stuff I didn't learn in my MsC and I learned during my PhD. Now I'm more accostumed to things like genomics and NGS, compared to when I started. I still feel behind, but now I have a decent grasp. I suggest you to exercise on the stuff you have troubles with until you feel you understand what you are doing and why you are doing it.
I think that Terry Pratchett said it best: > Universities are truly storehouses for knowledge: students arrive from school confident they know nearly everything, and they leave five years later certain that they know practically nothing. Where did the knowledge go in the meantime? In the university, of course, where it is dried and stored. From the Science of Discworld series, I believe. Like all Pratchett books brilliantly written, these ones are nice pop-science books about the universe and evolution. Highly recommended.
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
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I think that Terry Pratchett said it best: > Universities are truly storehouses for knowledge: students arrive from school confident they know nearly everything, and they leave five years later certain that they know practically nothing. Where did the knowledge go in the meantime? In the university, of course, where it is dried and stored. From the Science of Discworld series, I believe. Like all Pratchett books brilliantly written, these ones are nice pop-science books about the universe and evolution. Highly recommended.
For me, that feeling is one of the finest fruits of learning.
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kng3m1
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghldkd3
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I think that Terry Pratchett said it best: > Universities are truly storehouses for knowledge: students arrive from school confident they know nearly everything, and they leave five years later certain that they know practically nothing. Where did the knowledge go in the meantime? In the university, of course, where it is dried and stored. From the Science of Discworld series, I believe. Like all Pratchett books brilliantly written, these ones are nice pop-science books about the universe and evolution. Highly recommended.
Not at all. The more you learn, the more you fuel your curiosity. The more curious you are, the more you seek new experience and new knowledge. With these come greater insights. And so on and so on.... enjoy the learning!
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghldkd3
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I think that Terry Pratchett said it best: > Universities are truly storehouses for knowledge: students arrive from school confident they know nearly everything, and they leave five years later certain that they know practically nothing. Where did the knowledge go in the meantime? In the university, of course, where it is dried and stored. From the Science of Discworld series, I believe. Like all Pratchett books brilliantly written, these ones are nice pop-science books about the universe and evolution. Highly recommended.
In my late 40s, and I like to think of this in a really exciting way, like Mary Oliver said, "Whoever you are, no matter how lonely, the world offers itself to your imagination." Getting to know folks in their 60s and older who are fascinated by how much there is still left to learn definitely keeps me going.
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kng3m1
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghldkd3
ghl165x
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I think that Terry Pratchett said it best: > Universities are truly storehouses for knowledge: students arrive from school confident they know nearly everything, and they leave five years later certain that they know practically nothing. Where did the knowledge go in the meantime? In the university, of course, where it is dried and stored. From the Science of Discworld series, I believe. Like all Pratchett books brilliantly written, these ones are nice pop-science books about the universe and evolution. Highly recommended.
Well seemingly you eventually learn so much that you know absolutely nothing. Thats when you become a dean.
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kng3m1
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghldkd3
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I think that Terry Pratchett said it best: > Universities are truly storehouses for knowledge: students arrive from school confident they know nearly everything, and they leave five years later certain that they know practically nothing. Where did the knowledge go in the meantime? In the university, of course, where it is dried and stored. From the Science of Discworld series, I believe. Like all Pratchett books brilliantly written, these ones are nice pop-science books about the universe and evolution. Highly recommended.
Nope! There is ALWAYS more detail to learn about every topic.
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kng3m1
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghko7kx
ghldkd3
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Well eventually it becomes that we as humans don’t know anything. But in the same sense that’s why we are researchers. To get answers.
I think that Terry Pratchett said it best: > Universities are truly storehouses for knowledge: students arrive from school confident they know nearly everything, and they leave five years later certain that they know practically nothing. Where did the knowledge go in the meantime? In the university, of course, where it is dried and stored. From the Science of Discworld series, I believe. Like all Pratchett books brilliantly written, these ones are nice pop-science books about the universe and evolution. Highly recommended.
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghkqkp2
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No. Sometimes you grow more peaceful in your acceptance of this, sometimes not.
I think that Terry Pratchett said it best: > Universities are truly storehouses for knowledge: students arrive from school confident they know nearly everything, and they leave five years later certain that they know practically nothing. Where did the knowledge go in the meantime? In the university, of course, where it is dried and stored. From the Science of Discworld series, I believe. Like all Pratchett books brilliantly written, these ones are nice pop-science books about the universe and evolution. Highly recommended.
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghldkd3
ghl9yji
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I think that Terry Pratchett said it best: > Universities are truly storehouses for knowledge: students arrive from school confident they know nearly everything, and they leave five years later certain that they know practically nothing. Where did the knowledge go in the meantime? In the university, of course, where it is dried and stored. From the Science of Discworld series, I believe. Like all Pratchett books brilliantly written, these ones are nice pop-science books about the universe and evolution. Highly recommended.
I hope it at least tapers off a little!
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
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On one hand, I realize how little I know, but on the other hand, I've learned to value things about myself besides the amount I know.
I suspect it won't end. But the important distinction is that you know *why* you don't know anything.
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kng3m1
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghkq4ub
ghkh4md
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As a former advisor of mine, who is one of the top in my field, says "those who succeed were just stupid enough to try it in the first place!"
On one hand, I realize how little I know, but on the other hand, I've learned to value things about myself besides the amount I know.
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kng3m1
askacademia_train
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghkp0xn
ghkq4ub
1,609,387,840
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For what I know, it's a natural constant feeling and you should not be ashamed about it. In my experience, it took me a year and a half to learn stuff I didn't learn in my MsC and I learned during my PhD. Now I'm more accostumed to things like genomics and NGS, compared to when I started. I still feel behind, but now I have a decent grasp. I suggest you to exercise on the stuff you have troubles with until you feel you understand what you are doing and why you are doing it.
As a former advisor of mine, who is one of the top in my field, says "those who succeed were just stupid enough to try it in the first place!"
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kng3m1
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghknud4
ghkq4ub
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Nope! There is ALWAYS more detail to learn about every topic.
As a former advisor of mine, who is one of the top in my field, says "those who succeed were just stupid enough to try it in the first place!"
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghko7kx
ghkq4ub
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Well eventually it becomes that we as humans don’t know anything. But in the same sense that’s why we are researchers. To get answers.
As a former advisor of mine, who is one of the top in my field, says "those who succeed were just stupid enough to try it in the first place!"
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kng3m1
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghkq6jw
ghkp0xn
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Nope, but at some point you hopefully learn to admit to utter ignorance with grace, and to extend that same grace to your equally-ignorant colleagues when you know something they don't.
For what I know, it's a natural constant feeling and you should not be ashamed about it. In my experience, it took me a year and a half to learn stuff I didn't learn in my MsC and I learned during my PhD. Now I'm more accostumed to things like genomics and NGS, compared to when I started. I still feel behind, but now I have a decent grasp. I suggest you to exercise on the stuff you have troubles with until you feel you understand what you are doing and why you are doing it.
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghknud4
ghkq6jw
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Nope! There is ALWAYS more detail to learn about every topic.
Nope, but at some point you hopefully learn to admit to utter ignorance with grace, and to extend that same grace to your equally-ignorant colleagues when you know something they don't.
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghkq6jw
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Nope, but at some point you hopefully learn to admit to utter ignorance with grace, and to extend that same grace to your equally-ignorant colleagues when you know something they don't.
Well eventually it becomes that we as humans don’t know anything. But in the same sense that’s why we are researchers. To get answers.
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kng3m1
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghknud4
ghkp0xn
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Nope! There is ALWAYS more detail to learn about every topic.
For what I know, it's a natural constant feeling and you should not be ashamed about it. In my experience, it took me a year and a half to learn stuff I didn't learn in my MsC and I learned during my PhD. Now I'm more accostumed to things like genomics and NGS, compared to when I started. I still feel behind, but now I have a decent grasp. I suggest you to exercise on the stuff you have troubles with until you feel you understand what you are doing and why you are doing it.
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghko7kx
ghkp0xn
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Well eventually it becomes that we as humans don’t know anything. But in the same sense that’s why we are researchers. To get answers.
For what I know, it's a natural constant feeling and you should not be ashamed about it. In my experience, it took me a year and a half to learn stuff I didn't learn in my MsC and I learned during my PhD. Now I'm more accostumed to things like genomics and NGS, compared to when I started. I still feel behind, but now I have a decent grasp. I suggest you to exercise on the stuff you have troubles with until you feel you understand what you are doing and why you are doing it.
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghkx3xr
ghkqxd2
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In my late 40s, and I like to think of this in a really exciting way, like Mary Oliver said, "Whoever you are, no matter how lonely, the world offers itself to your imagination." Getting to know folks in their 60s and older who are fascinated by how much there is still left to learn definitely keeps me going.
For me, that feeling is one of the finest fruits of learning.
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghl165x
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Well seemingly you eventually learn so much that you know absolutely nothing. Thats when you become a dean.
For me, that feeling is one of the finest fruits of learning.
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kng3m1
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghkqxd2
ghm2aut
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For me, that feeling is one of the finest fruits of learning.
I've asked top researchers and they've agreed this feeling doesn't go away. What does happen, though, is you gain a feeling of confidence about your own ability to understand the general shapes of the field, and about your ability to figure out the parts that you need to know.
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghknud4
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Nope! There is ALWAYS more detail to learn about every topic.
For me, that feeling is one of the finest fruits of learning.
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghkqxd2
ghko7kx
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For me, that feeling is one of the finest fruits of learning.
Well eventually it becomes that we as humans don’t know anything. But in the same sense that’s why we are researchers. To get answers.
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kng3m1
askacademia_train
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghkqxd2
ghkqkp2
1,609,388,960
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For me, that feeling is one of the finest fruits of learning.
No. Sometimes you grow more peaceful in your acceptance of this, sometimes not.
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1.333333
kng3m1
askacademia_train
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghkx3xr
ghkr431
1,609,393,036
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4
In my late 40s, and I like to think of this in a really exciting way, like Mary Oliver said, "Whoever you are, no matter how lonely, the world offers itself to your imagination." Getting to know folks in their 60s and older who are fascinated by how much there is still left to learn definitely keeps me going.
Not at all. The more you learn, the more you fuel your curiosity. The more curious you are, the more you seek new experience and new knowledge. With these come greater insights. And so on and so on.... enjoy the learning!
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3,964
1.25
kng3m1
askacademia_train
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghl165x
ghkr431
1,609,396,131
1,609,389,072
5
4
Well seemingly you eventually learn so much that you know absolutely nothing. Thats when you become a dean.
Not at all. The more you learn, the more you fuel your curiosity. The more curious you are, the more you seek new experience and new knowledge. With these come greater insights. And so on and so on.... enjoy the learning!
1
7,059
1.25
kng3m1
askacademia_train
0.99
Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghkr431
ghm2aut
1,609,389,072
1,609,428,631
4
5
Not at all. The more you learn, the more you fuel your curiosity. The more curious you are, the more you seek new experience and new knowledge. With these come greater insights. And so on and so on.... enjoy the learning!
I've asked top researchers and they've agreed this feeling doesn't go away. What does happen, though, is you gain a feeling of confidence about your own ability to understand the general shapes of the field, and about your ability to figure out the parts that you need to know.
0
39,559
1.25
kng3m1
askacademia_train
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghkr431
ghknud4
1,609,389,072
1,609,387,168
4
3
Not at all. The more you learn, the more you fuel your curiosity. The more curious you are, the more you seek new experience and new knowledge. With these come greater insights. And so on and so on.... enjoy the learning!
Nope! There is ALWAYS more detail to learn about every topic.
1
1,904
1.333333
kng3m1
askacademia_train
0.99
Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghko7kx
ghkr431
1,609,387,376
1,609,389,072
3
4
Well eventually it becomes that we as humans don’t know anything. But in the same sense that’s why we are researchers. To get answers.
Not at all. The more you learn, the more you fuel your curiosity. The more curious you are, the more you seek new experience and new knowledge. With these come greater insights. And so on and so on.... enjoy the learning!
0
1,696
1.333333
kng3m1
askacademia_train
0.99
Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghkr431
ghkqkp2
1,609,389,072
1,609,388,750
4
3
Not at all. The more you learn, the more you fuel your curiosity. The more curious you are, the more you seek new experience and new knowledge. With these come greater insights. And so on and so on.... enjoy the learning!
No. Sometimes you grow more peaceful in your acceptance of this, sometimes not.
1
322
1.333333
kng3m1
askacademia_train
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghknud4
ghkx3xr
1,609,387,168
1,609,393,036
3
5
Nope! There is ALWAYS more detail to learn about every topic.
In my late 40s, and I like to think of this in a really exciting way, like Mary Oliver said, "Whoever you are, no matter how lonely, the world offers itself to your imagination." Getting to know folks in their 60s and older who are fascinated by how much there is still left to learn definitely keeps me going.
0
5,868
1.666667
kng3m1
askacademia_train
0.99
Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghko7kx
ghkx3xr
1,609,387,376
1,609,393,036
3
5
Well eventually it becomes that we as humans don’t know anything. But in the same sense that’s why we are researchers. To get answers.
In my late 40s, and I like to think of this in a really exciting way, like Mary Oliver said, "Whoever you are, no matter how lonely, the world offers itself to your imagination." Getting to know folks in their 60s and older who are fascinated by how much there is still left to learn definitely keeps me going.
0
5,660
1.666667
kng3m1
askacademia_train
0.99
Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghkqkp2
ghkx3xr
1,609,388,750
1,609,393,036
3
5
No. Sometimes you grow more peaceful in your acceptance of this, sometimes not.
In my late 40s, and I like to think of this in a really exciting way, like Mary Oliver said, "Whoever you are, no matter how lonely, the world offers itself to your imagination." Getting to know folks in their 60s and older who are fascinated by how much there is still left to learn definitely keeps me going.
0
4,286
1.666667
kng3m1
askacademia_train
0.99
Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghl165x
ghknud4
1,609,396,131
1,609,387,168
5
3
Well seemingly you eventually learn so much that you know absolutely nothing. Thats when you become a dean.
Nope! There is ALWAYS more detail to learn about every topic.
1
8,963
1.666667
kng3m1
askacademia_train
0.99
Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghko7kx
ghl165x
1,609,387,376
1,609,396,131
3
5
Well eventually it becomes that we as humans don’t know anything. But in the same sense that’s why we are researchers. To get answers.
Well seemingly you eventually learn so much that you know absolutely nothing. Thats when you become a dean.
0
8,755
1.666667
kng3m1
askacademia_train
0.99
Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghkqkp2
ghl165x
1,609,388,750
1,609,396,131
3
5
No. Sometimes you grow more peaceful in your acceptance of this, sometimes not.
Well seemingly you eventually learn so much that you know absolutely nothing. Thats when you become a dean.
0
7,381
1.666667
kng3m1
askacademia_train
0.99
Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghknud4
ghm2aut
1,609,387,168
1,609,428,631
3
5
Nope! There is ALWAYS more detail to learn about every topic.
I've asked top researchers and they've agreed this feeling doesn't go away. What does happen, though, is you gain a feeling of confidence about your own ability to understand the general shapes of the field, and about your ability to figure out the parts that you need to know.
0
41,463
1.666667
kng3m1
askacademia_train
0.99
Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghm2aut
ghko7kx
1,609,428,631
1,609,387,376
5
3
I've asked top researchers and they've agreed this feeling doesn't go away. What does happen, though, is you gain a feeling of confidence about your own ability to understand the general shapes of the field, and about your ability to figure out the parts that you need to know.
Well eventually it becomes that we as humans don’t know anything. But in the same sense that’s why we are researchers. To get answers.
1
41,255
1.666667
kng3m1
askacademia_train
0.99
Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghm2aut
ghkqkp2
1,609,428,631
1,609,388,750
5
3
I've asked top researchers and they've agreed this feeling doesn't go away. What does happen, though, is you gain a feeling of confidence about your own ability to understand the general shapes of the field, and about your ability to figure out the parts that you need to know.
No. Sometimes you grow more peaceful in your acceptance of this, sometimes not.
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39,881
1.666667
kng3m1
askacademia_train
0.99
Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghm2aut
ghlpukq
1,609,428,631
1,609,420,420
5
3
I've asked top researchers and they've agreed this feeling doesn't go away. What does happen, though, is you gain a feeling of confidence about your own ability to understand the general shapes of the field, and about your ability to figure out the parts that you need to know.
I think there's two aspects to this: 1. Imposter syndrome - this definitely went away for me, although it does come and go a bit. 2. The more you learn about something, the more you understand where the gaps in the field are. This is different to feeling like an imposter, this is becoming aware of what the limit of everyone's knowledge is. I used to do research in a very small niche area, where I read essentially every paper that had been published on the topic. I had zero imposter syndrome, because I knew basically everything that was known on the subject, but I also knew how little anyone (including me) knew.
1
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kng3m1
askacademia_train
0.99
Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghl9yji
ghm2aut
1,609,404,330
1,609,428,631
1
5
I hope it at least tapers off a little!
I've asked top researchers and they've agreed this feeling doesn't go away. What does happen, though, is you gain a feeling of confidence about your own ability to understand the general shapes of the field, and about your ability to figure out the parts that you need to know.
0
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kng3m1
askacademia_train
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghlyzb9
ghm2aut
1,609,426,719
1,609,428,631
1
5
Nope :(
I've asked top researchers and they've agreed this feeling doesn't go away. What does happen, though, is you gain a feeling of confidence about your own ability to understand the general shapes of the field, and about your ability to figure out the parts that you need to know.
0
1,912
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kng3m1
askacademia_train
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghl9yji
ghlpukq
1,609,404,330
1,609,420,420
1
3
I hope it at least tapers off a little!
I think there's two aspects to this: 1. Imposter syndrome - this definitely went away for me, although it does come and go a bit. 2. The more you learn about something, the more you understand where the gaps in the field are. This is different to feeling like an imposter, this is becoming aware of what the limit of everyone's knowledge is. I used to do research in a very small niche area, where I read essentially every paper that had been published on the topic. I had zero imposter syndrome, because I knew basically everything that was known on the subject, but I also knew how little anyone (including me) knew.
0
16,090
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kng3m1
askacademia_train
0.99
Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghm2y5n
ghl9yji
1,609,428,993
1,609,404,330
2
1
No, it never ends. There is always something new, there's always somebody excepting you to know this and that. If you know 99% about a topic, expect to be asked about the 1% that you don't know. It's really never-ending and so draining.
I hope it at least tapers off a little!
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kng3m1
askacademia_train
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghm2y5n
ghlyzb9
1,609,428,993
1,609,426,719
2
1
No, it never ends. There is always something new, there's always somebody excepting you to know this and that. If you know 99% about a topic, expect to be asked about the 1% that you don't know. It's really never-ending and so draining.
Nope :(
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kng3m1
askacademia_train
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghm6iyk
ghl9yji
1,609,430,952
1,609,404,330
2
1
Is knowledge finite or infinite? If the latter we have no hope of achieving perfect understanding, and we should rejoice in that.
I hope it at least tapers off a little!
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kng3m1
askacademia_train
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghlyzb9
ghm6iyk
1,609,426,719
1,609,430,952
1
2
Nope :(
Is knowledge finite or infinite? If the latter we have no hope of achieving perfect understanding, and we should rejoice in that.
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kng3m1
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghmqtgg
ghl9yji
1,609,441,442
1,609,404,330
2
1
I’m finishing my last year of undergraduate and feel very similar to you. I feel like I leave lectures with more questions than I have answers but I hope that is a good thing? I’m an art history major so a lot of our classes consist of deep readings together and discussion.... so maybe this setting just forms more questions? I think it’s ok to not know everything that’s impossible but I think or like to think it allows us to be more open minded to stuff.
I hope it at least tapers off a little!
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kng3m1
askacademia_train
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghlyzb9
ghmqtgg
1,609,426,719
1,609,441,442
1
2
Nope :(
I’m finishing my last year of undergraduate and feel very similar to you. I feel like I leave lectures with more questions than I have answers but I hope that is a good thing? I’m an art history major so a lot of our classes consist of deep readings together and discussion.... so maybe this setting just forms more questions? I think it’s ok to not know everything that’s impossible but I think or like to think it allows us to be more open minded to stuff.
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kng3m1
askacademia_train
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghl9yji
ghmypno
1,609,404,330
1,609,445,660
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2
I hope it at least tapers off a little!
This becomes a more interesting question all the time. The sum total of human knowledge is expanding at a phenomenal pace. Nobody can keep up. The solution thus far has been to specialize into increasingly narrow fields of competence. Unfortunately, the way the production of knowledge is financed makes this ultimately unsustainable. We are seeing this now widely across the academy.
0
41,330
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kng3m1
askacademia_train
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghlyzb9
ghmypno
1,609,426,719
1,609,445,660
1
2
Nope :(
This becomes a more interesting question all the time. The sum total of human knowledge is expanding at a phenomenal pace. Nobody can keep up. The solution thus far has been to specialize into increasingly narrow fields of competence. Unfortunately, the way the production of knowledge is financed makes this ultimately unsustainable. We are seeing this now widely across the academy.
0
18,941
2
kng3m1
askacademia_train
0.99
Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghmvfcw
ghmypno
1,609,443,893
1,609,445,660
1
2
Ladies and gentlemen, the Dunning-Krueger Effect: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=dunning+kruger+effect&t=iphone&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.stockspot.com.au%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F11%2Fdunning-kruger-3.jpg
This becomes a more interesting question all the time. The sum total of human knowledge is expanding at a phenomenal pace. Nobody can keep up. The solution thus far has been to specialize into increasingly narrow fields of competence. Unfortunately, the way the production of knowledge is financed makes this ultimately unsustainable. We are seeing this now widely across the academy.
0
1,767
2
kng3m1
askacademia_train
0.99
Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghl9yji
ghnssvr
1,609,404,330
1,609,462,754
1
2
I hope it at least tapers off a little!
No. But for me it stopped being bothersome. It's kinda nice to marvel at how much there is to know
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kng3m1
askacademia_train
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghlyzb9
ghnssvr
1,609,426,719
1,609,462,754
1
2
Nope :(
No. But for me it stopped being bothersome. It's kinda nice to marvel at how much there is to know
0
36,035
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kng3m1
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghmvfcw
ghnssvr
1,609,443,893
1,609,462,754
1
2
Ladies and gentlemen, the Dunning-Krueger Effect: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=dunning+kruger+effect&t=iphone&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.stockspot.com.au%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F11%2Fdunning-kruger-3.jpg
No. But for me it stopped being bothersome. It's kinda nice to marvel at how much there is to know
0
18,861
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kng3m1
askacademia_train
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghok634
ghl9yji
1,609,481,816
1,609,404,330
2
1
Honestly, you are thinking of it wrong. It should be: The more you learn the more you know you don't know EVERYTHING". The problem is, you have to study a LOT to find out where the "edge" is - the boundary between what we know, and do not know. Only ignorant people think they know everything. The appreciation that there is a hell of a lot out there that we do not know is the beginnings of wisdom. Stick at it - its a hell of a ride.
I hope it at least tapers off a little!
1
77,486
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kng3m1
askacademia_train
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Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghlyzb9
ghok634
1,609,426,719
1,609,481,816
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2
Nope :(
Honestly, you are thinking of it wrong. It should be: The more you learn the more you know you don't know EVERYTHING". The problem is, you have to study a LOT to find out where the "edge" is - the boundary between what we know, and do not know. Only ignorant people think they know everything. The appreciation that there is a hell of a lot out there that we do not know is the beginnings of wisdom. Stick at it - its a hell of a ride.
0
55,097
2
kng3m1
askacademia_train
0.99
Does the feeling of “the more you learn the more you know you don’t know anything” ever end? Not sure if this has been asked before but it’s getting to my head, the more I study the more I feel behind or as an imposter..what are your stories/reflections on this
ghok634
ghmvfcw
1,609,481,816
1,609,443,893
2
1
Honestly, you are thinking of it wrong. It should be: The more you learn the more you know you don't know EVERYTHING". The problem is, you have to study a LOT to find out where the "edge" is - the boundary between what we know, and do not know. Only ignorant people think they know everything. The appreciation that there is a hell of a lot out there that we do not know is the beginnings of wisdom. Stick at it - its a hell of a ride.
Ladies and gentlemen, the Dunning-Krueger Effect: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=dunning+kruger+effect&t=iphone&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.stockspot.com.au%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F11%2Fdunning-kruger-3.jpg
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sdykoy
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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Yes, such a move would be emotionally valid.
Just to be clear OP, the grass isn't greener on the other side. Institutions (public, corporate) are not human. Humans are humans and so prepared to be disappointed. My recommendation would be to search for people who are empathetic.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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That is one of the most reddit titles I have ever read.
Just to be clear OP, the grass isn't greener on the other side. Institutions (public, corporate) are not human. Humans are humans and so prepared to be disappointed. My recommendation would be to search for people who are empathetic.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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No one can meaningfully tell you your emotions are valid or not. It's not my experience that non-academic environments have more empathy or compassion. Both are very hit or miss.
Just to be clear OP, the grass isn't greener on the other side. Institutions (public, corporate) are not human. Humans are humans and so prepared to be disappointed. My recommendation would be to search for people who are empathetic.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
hufwnci
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Absolutely. I also wanted to be a prof - I wanted to help people learn, and share my passion for STEM. Academia is so toxic and demotivating, my current plan is to finish my graduate studies then work in the private sector. If you think your mental well-being would not be protected in academia, leave.
Just to be clear OP, the grass isn't greener on the other side. Institutions (public, corporate) are not human. Humans are humans and so prepared to be disappointed. My recommendation would be to search for people who are empathetic.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
hufzu91
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This is 100% what I did. Never looked back and I am so glad I decided to ditch.
Just to be clear OP, the grass isn't greener on the other side. Institutions (public, corporate) are not human. Humans are humans and so prepared to be disappointed. My recommendation would be to search for people who are empathetic.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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Just to be clear OP, the grass isn't greener on the other side. Institutions (public, corporate) are not human. Humans are humans and so prepared to be disappointed. My recommendation would be to search for people who are empathetic.
I wanted to be a lawyer… and then I started working with lawyers and saw the corruption and loss of humanity and greed and… it just sickened me. So disheartening. I don’t want to become like them
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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That is one of the most reddit titles I have ever read.
Yes, such a move would be emotionally valid.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
hug1035
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No one can meaningfully tell you your emotions are valid or not. It's not my experience that non-academic environments have more empathy or compassion. Both are very hit or miss.
Absolutely. I also wanted to be a prof - I wanted to help people learn, and share my passion for STEM. Academia is so toxic and demotivating, my current plan is to finish my graduate studies then work in the private sector. If you think your mental well-being would not be protected in academia, leave.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
hufzu91
hug1035
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This is 100% what I did. Never looked back and I am so glad I decided to ditch.
No one can meaningfully tell you your emotions are valid or not. It's not my experience that non-academic environments have more empathy or compassion. Both are very hit or miss.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
hufwnci
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Absolutely. I also wanted to be a prof - I wanted to help people learn, and share my passion for STEM. Academia is so toxic and demotivating, my current plan is to finish my graduate studies then work in the private sector. If you think your mental well-being would not be protected in academia, leave.
capitalist firms and nonprofits aren’t “more compassionate”
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
hug8epl
hufzu91
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capitalist firms and nonprofits aren’t “more compassionate”
This is 100% what I did. Never looked back and I am so glad I decided to ditch.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
hug8epl
hug579u
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capitalist firms and nonprofits aren’t “more compassionate”
I'm not sure what "emotionally valid" means, but I do think that an essential part of transitioning from child to adult is learning to think in practical terms as well as idealistic ones. So yes, I'd start to think about what being in academia would mean for your life and your future.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
hug8epl
hug10g8
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capitalist firms and nonprofits aren’t “more compassionate”
I wanted to be a lawyer… and then I started working with lawyers and saw the corruption and loss of humanity and greed and… it just sickened me. So disheartening. I don’t want to become like them
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
hufzu91
hugboof
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This is 100% what I did. Never looked back and I am so glad I decided to ditch.
The answer is yes BUT, there are amazing researchers out there. Some who are just people you can chit-chat with, have a beer or coffee or tea, who are activist or who do quality theoretical work because they believe in change. Granted, higher ed institutions are a business and have a bottom line. So corporate/economic values will dominate. But colleges, departments, and faculty can create a positive culture that makes you feel comfortable and welcome (as much as they can in what can feel like an inhumane profession). So, what I am trying to say is: find the right institution, the right college, department and colleagues that will SHARE your values (graduate students too). They are out there as well as academics who are empathetic. Want to be / remain somewhat hopeful... Then again, my goal is to disrupt the inhumanity extant in graduate school and my field (however little I can do...)... change has to start somewhere.... Now what to do about blinded comments? =/
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
hug579u
hugboof
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I'm not sure what "emotionally valid" means, but I do think that an essential part of transitioning from child to adult is learning to think in practical terms as well as idealistic ones. So yes, I'd start to think about what being in academia would mean for your life and your future.
The answer is yes BUT, there are amazing researchers out there. Some who are just people you can chit-chat with, have a beer or coffee or tea, who are activist or who do quality theoretical work because they believe in change. Granted, higher ed institutions are a business and have a bottom line. So corporate/economic values will dominate. But colleges, departments, and faculty can create a positive culture that makes you feel comfortable and welcome (as much as they can in what can feel like an inhumane profession). So, what I am trying to say is: find the right institution, the right college, department and colleagues that will SHARE your values (graduate students too). They are out there as well as academics who are empathetic. Want to be / remain somewhat hopeful... Then again, my goal is to disrupt the inhumanity extant in graduate school and my field (however little I can do...)... change has to start somewhere.... Now what to do about blinded comments? =/
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
hugboof
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The answer is yes BUT, there are amazing researchers out there. Some who are just people you can chit-chat with, have a beer or coffee or tea, who are activist or who do quality theoretical work because they believe in change. Granted, higher ed institutions are a business and have a bottom line. So corporate/economic values will dominate. But colleges, departments, and faculty can create a positive culture that makes you feel comfortable and welcome (as much as they can in what can feel like an inhumane profession). So, what I am trying to say is: find the right institution, the right college, department and colleagues that will SHARE your values (graduate students too). They are out there as well as academics who are empathetic. Want to be / remain somewhat hopeful... Then again, my goal is to disrupt the inhumanity extant in graduate school and my field (however little I can do...)... change has to start somewhere.... Now what to do about blinded comments? =/
Any feeling is emotionally valid, so yes. Getting a job outside academia isn't any better though. If you don't want to go into academia, don't. Asking reddit isn't going to change your mind.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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The answer is yes BUT, there are amazing researchers out there. Some who are just people you can chit-chat with, have a beer or coffee or tea, who are activist or who do quality theoretical work because they believe in change. Granted, higher ed institutions are a business and have a bottom line. So corporate/economic values will dominate. But colleges, departments, and faculty can create a positive culture that makes you feel comfortable and welcome (as much as they can in what can feel like an inhumane profession). So, what I am trying to say is: find the right institution, the right college, department and colleagues that will SHARE your values (graduate students too). They are out there as well as academics who are empathetic. Want to be / remain somewhat hopeful... Then again, my goal is to disrupt the inhumanity extant in graduate school and my field (however little I can do...)... change has to start somewhere.... Now what to do about blinded comments? =/
I wanted to be a lawyer… and then I started working with lawyers and saw the corruption and loss of humanity and greed and… it just sickened me. So disheartening. I don’t want to become like them
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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The answer is yes BUT, there are amazing researchers out there. Some who are just people you can chit-chat with, have a beer or coffee or tea, who are activist or who do quality theoretical work because they believe in change. Granted, higher ed institutions are a business and have a bottom line. So corporate/economic values will dominate. But colleges, departments, and faculty can create a positive culture that makes you feel comfortable and welcome (as much as they can in what can feel like an inhumane profession). So, what I am trying to say is: find the right institution, the right college, department and colleagues that will SHARE your values (graduate students too). They are out there as well as academics who are empathetic. Want to be / remain somewhat hopeful... Then again, my goal is to disrupt the inhumanity extant in graduate school and my field (however little I can do...)... change has to start somewhere.... Now what to do about blinded comments? =/
You don't owe academia anything. Do what's right for you and put your happiness first. That said, I'm not sure that you'll find more flexibility or empathy in the corporate world. There's obviously a ton of variability in academia and in business and good people are working in both, but the sort of flexibility you're talking about is more common in academia where deadlines can be pretty squishy.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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The answer is yes BUT, there are amazing researchers out there. Some who are just people you can chit-chat with, have a beer or coffee or tea, who are activist or who do quality theoretical work because they believe in change. Granted, higher ed institutions are a business and have a bottom line. So corporate/economic values will dominate. But colleges, departments, and faculty can create a positive culture that makes you feel comfortable and welcome (as much as they can in what can feel like an inhumane profession). So, what I am trying to say is: find the right institution, the right college, department and colleagues that will SHARE your values (graduate students too). They are out there as well as academics who are empathetic. Want to be / remain somewhat hopeful... Then again, my goal is to disrupt the inhumanity extant in graduate school and my field (however little I can do...)... change has to start somewhere.... Now what to do about blinded comments? =/
I do not think there is anything wrong with steering away from a professional setting because you don't like the culture. However, I doubt industry would be any more understanding.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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I'm not sure what "emotionally valid" means, but I do think that an essential part of transitioning from child to adult is learning to think in practical terms as well as idealistic ones. So yes, I'd start to think about what being in academia would mean for your life and your future.
I wanted to be a lawyer… and then I started working with lawyers and saw the corruption and loss of humanity and greed and… it just sickened me. So disheartening. I don’t want to become like them
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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I think what people are missing is this: you’ve assigned a ton of feeling and emotional meaning to your potential work in academia. All of the language you use in your post - like ‘heeding the call’ of working in academia or your ‘belief’ in the academe - suggests that you view academia as a nobler or more meaningful career path, almost like you would be destined to do it. The reality is that the world is not like that, and you are just now waking up to it. It’s not that you’re looking for empathy or compassion at your job - it’s that you held academia to a higher standard than “just a job” and are now realizing that it’s not the case. I just want to reassure you that you can be successful, make a difference, and be happy in your work both inside or outside academia. Both places are, at the end of the day, just places you can work, and the jobs in either are just the same as other jobs. What you do in your job, and in your life in general, is what makes it meaningful. Hope this helps. Wishing you the best.
Any feeling is emotionally valid, so yes. Getting a job outside academia isn't any better though. If you don't want to go into academia, don't. Asking reddit isn't going to change your mind.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
huhjmb0
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I think what people are missing is this: you’ve assigned a ton of feeling and emotional meaning to your potential work in academia. All of the language you use in your post - like ‘heeding the call’ of working in academia or your ‘belief’ in the academe - suggests that you view academia as a nobler or more meaningful career path, almost like you would be destined to do it. The reality is that the world is not like that, and you are just now waking up to it. It’s not that you’re looking for empathy or compassion at your job - it’s that you held academia to a higher standard than “just a job” and are now realizing that it’s not the case. I just want to reassure you that you can be successful, make a difference, and be happy in your work both inside or outside academia. Both places are, at the end of the day, just places you can work, and the jobs in either are just the same as other jobs. What you do in your job, and in your life in general, is what makes it meaningful. Hope this helps. Wishing you the best.
I wanted to be a lawyer… and then I started working with lawyers and saw the corruption and loss of humanity and greed and… it just sickened me. So disheartening. I don’t want to become like them
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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You don't owe academia anything. Do what's right for you and put your happiness first. That said, I'm not sure that you'll find more flexibility or empathy in the corporate world. There's obviously a ton of variability in academia and in business and good people are working in both, but the sort of flexibility you're talking about is more common in academia where deadlines can be pretty squishy.
I think what people are missing is this: you’ve assigned a ton of feeling and emotional meaning to your potential work in academia. All of the language you use in your post - like ‘heeding the call’ of working in academia or your ‘belief’ in the academe - suggests that you view academia as a nobler or more meaningful career path, almost like you would be destined to do it. The reality is that the world is not like that, and you are just now waking up to it. It’s not that you’re looking for empathy or compassion at your job - it’s that you held academia to a higher standard than “just a job” and are now realizing that it’s not the case. I just want to reassure you that you can be successful, make a difference, and be happy in your work both inside or outside academia. Both places are, at the end of the day, just places you can work, and the jobs in either are just the same as other jobs. What you do in your job, and in your life in general, is what makes it meaningful. Hope this helps. Wishing you the best.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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I think what people are missing is this: you’ve assigned a ton of feeling and emotional meaning to your potential work in academia. All of the language you use in your post - like ‘heeding the call’ of working in academia or your ‘belief’ in the academe - suggests that you view academia as a nobler or more meaningful career path, almost like you would be destined to do it. The reality is that the world is not like that, and you are just now waking up to it. It’s not that you’re looking for empathy or compassion at your job - it’s that you held academia to a higher standard than “just a job” and are now realizing that it’s not the case. I just want to reassure you that you can be successful, make a difference, and be happy in your work both inside or outside academia. Both places are, at the end of the day, just places you can work, and the jobs in either are just the same as other jobs. What you do in your job, and in your life in general, is what makes it meaningful. Hope this helps. Wishing you the best.
Do what makes you happy, but don't expect the private sector to be inherently more empathetic. The millions of people who lost their jobs due to the pandemic probably aren't feeling a lot of compassion right now. There are good and bad workplaces both inside and outside of academia.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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Who cares if it's "emotionally valid". If it's not for you, it's not for you. That's fine. If you spend your life only making decisions when you've had external affirmation that your views are emotionally valid you're not going to have a career and you're probably going to end up living a very mediocre life. You need to make decisions for yourself. No one else is going to manage your career and personal life for you and if you can't make decisions without others validating you, then you won't make any decisions. If you feel academia lacks empathy and compassion then you should leave and find a career that aligns better with your values. The fact I don't find my corner of academia like that doesn't negate your experiences nor is it a reason for you to stay in a career you aren't enjoying. Do what is best for you, others' judgements of your emotional validity are neither here nor there.
I think what people are missing is this: you’ve assigned a ton of feeling and emotional meaning to your potential work in academia. All of the language you use in your post - like ‘heeding the call’ of working in academia or your ‘belief’ in the academe - suggests that you view academia as a nobler or more meaningful career path, almost like you would be destined to do it. The reality is that the world is not like that, and you are just now waking up to it. It’s not that you’re looking for empathy or compassion at your job - it’s that you held academia to a higher standard than “just a job” and are now realizing that it’s not the case. I just want to reassure you that you can be successful, make a difference, and be happy in your work both inside or outside academia. Both places are, at the end of the day, just places you can work, and the jobs in either are just the same as other jobs. What you do in your job, and in your life in general, is what makes it meaningful. Hope this helps. Wishing you the best.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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I think what people are missing is this: you’ve assigned a ton of feeling and emotional meaning to your potential work in academia. All of the language you use in your post - like ‘heeding the call’ of working in academia or your ‘belief’ in the academe - suggests that you view academia as a nobler or more meaningful career path, almost like you would be destined to do it. The reality is that the world is not like that, and you are just now waking up to it. It’s not that you’re looking for empathy or compassion at your job - it’s that you held academia to a higher standard than “just a job” and are now realizing that it’s not the case. I just want to reassure you that you can be successful, make a difference, and be happy in your work both inside or outside academia. Both places are, at the end of the day, just places you can work, and the jobs in either are just the same as other jobs. What you do in your job, and in your life in general, is what makes it meaningful. Hope this helps. Wishing you the best.
Hi OP, I feel like we belong to the same country (perhaps same institution?) based on your posts. Currently a researcher working on DOST-funded projects here. All of your feelings are valid and very understandable. It's something that most of our fellow colleagues have been struggling with and going through, from early career professionals to the more experienced PI's. My mental health since 2022 started has been so bad because of 1000001 problems our project has been facing, coupled with deadlines and difficult people. What can I say, we are all victims of a very flawed system. My advice as someone who's currently working (albeit broken and battered) for the academe and government? Give it another hard thought. Why did you dream to work at the academe in the first place? Was it because of DOST's call for more scientists? Is it because you want to teach and reach out to the younger minds? Or do you really just want to do science for a living? Why do you think you'd be better off looking for jobs abroad or in the industry? Is it out of spite, to escape a toxic environment and broken system? Or do you genuinely desire to broaden your horizon and see the world? I think knowing the reasons why will give you a better idea on the best direction to steer your career towards to after grad. Despite all the hardships, I don't regret staying (at least for now) and doing science here. I've learned skills and techniques I've otherwise won't be able to develop anywhere else. I've met some of the best colleagues in the lab, and sometimes after a hard day at work we go out for a couple of drinks and talk about our common problems with the system, dreaming about how we can change it around in the future when we advance into the academe ladder. I still hope to pursue further studies abroad, because I want to travel the world, learn things I otherwise have no opportunity to learn here, and upgrade my skillsets so that I can eventually come back, get a higher, stabler position with better salary, and maybe, just maybe, I could change something in the system to make it better. It's all a very idealistic view, but in essence I want you to consider that as the early career professionals who've witnessed and been victims of the system (and the people sitting up there now), we are the future generation's chance not to go through the same unnecessary hardships that we've gone through. Wherever you decide to go, you'll probably always find inconsiderate colleagues and flaws in the system. But I hope they never shake up whatever it is that you genuinely want to do in life. Also, it's OK to make the wrong career decisions. The door will always be there for you when you decide to leave, so don't pressure yourself too much to make the right decisions as early as now. This has gotten too long, and I apologize. I wish you all the best, and if you need anyone to talk to about this again, my inbox is open! :)
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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hug9tzg
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I think what people are missing is this: you’ve assigned a ton of feeling and emotional meaning to your potential work in academia. All of the language you use in your post - like ‘heeding the call’ of working in academia or your ‘belief’ in the academe - suggests that you view academia as a nobler or more meaningful career path, almost like you would be destined to do it. The reality is that the world is not like that, and you are just now waking up to it. It’s not that you’re looking for empathy or compassion at your job - it’s that you held academia to a higher standard than “just a job” and are now realizing that it’s not the case. I just want to reassure you that you can be successful, make a difference, and be happy in your work both inside or outside academia. Both places are, at the end of the day, just places you can work, and the jobs in either are just the same as other jobs. What you do in your job, and in your life in general, is what makes it meaningful. Hope this helps. Wishing you the best.
I do not think there is anything wrong with steering away from a professional setting because you don't like the culture. However, I doubt industry would be any more understanding.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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I think what people are missing is this: you’ve assigned a ton of feeling and emotional meaning to your potential work in academia. All of the language you use in your post - like ‘heeding the call’ of working in academia or your ‘belief’ in the academe - suggests that you view academia as a nobler or more meaningful career path, almost like you would be destined to do it. The reality is that the world is not like that, and you are just now waking up to it. It’s not that you’re looking for empathy or compassion at your job - it’s that you held academia to a higher standard than “just a job” and are now realizing that it’s not the case. I just want to reassure you that you can be successful, make a difference, and be happy in your work both inside or outside academia. Both places are, at the end of the day, just places you can work, and the jobs in either are just the same as other jobs. What you do in your job, and in your life in general, is what makes it meaningful. Hope this helps. Wishing you the best.
Look for a different location. Given what you’re saying, I’m kind of assuming you live in Florida or some other deep red state. Where I live (Hawaii), everyone has been super accommodating and my corporate job has too. Its not the industry, it’s the people.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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I think what people are missing is this: you’ve assigned a ton of feeling and emotional meaning to your potential work in academia. All of the language you use in your post - like ‘heeding the call’ of working in academia or your ‘belief’ in the academe - suggests that you view academia as a nobler or more meaningful career path, almost like you would be destined to do it. The reality is that the world is not like that, and you are just now waking up to it. It’s not that you’re looking for empathy or compassion at your job - it’s that you held academia to a higher standard than “just a job” and are now realizing that it’s not the case. I just want to reassure you that you can be successful, make a difference, and be happy in your work both inside or outside academia. Both places are, at the end of the day, just places you can work, and the jobs in either are just the same as other jobs. What you do in your job, and in your life in general, is what makes it meaningful. Hope this helps. Wishing you the best.
It sounds like you are judging an entire sector of society ("academe") by the actions of a very few people. There's a word for that.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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I think what people are missing is this: you’ve assigned a ton of feeling and emotional meaning to your potential work in academia. All of the language you use in your post - like ‘heeding the call’ of working in academia or your ‘belief’ in the academe - suggests that you view academia as a nobler or more meaningful career path, almost like you would be destined to do it. The reality is that the world is not like that, and you are just now waking up to it. It’s not that you’re looking for empathy or compassion at your job - it’s that you held academia to a higher standard than “just a job” and are now realizing that it’s not the case. I just want to reassure you that you can be successful, make a difference, and be happy in your work both inside or outside academia. Both places are, at the end of the day, just places you can work, and the jobs in either are just the same as other jobs. What you do in your job, and in your life in general, is what makes it meaningful. Hope this helps. Wishing you the best.
Your feelings are valid. I spent 15 years in academia and industry before I left due to the twisted priorities of those in charge and the powerlessness of those of us who are doing all the work. What we need is a strong union.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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I think what people are missing is this: you’ve assigned a ton of feeling and emotional meaning to your potential work in academia. All of the language you use in your post - like ‘heeding the call’ of working in academia or your ‘belief’ in the academe - suggests that you view academia as a nobler or more meaningful career path, almost like you would be destined to do it. The reality is that the world is not like that, and you are just now waking up to it. It’s not that you’re looking for empathy or compassion at your job - it’s that you held academia to a higher standard than “just a job” and are now realizing that it’s not the case. I just want to reassure you that you can be successful, make a difference, and be happy in your work both inside or outside academia. Both places are, at the end of the day, just places you can work, and the jobs in either are just the same as other jobs. What you do in your job, and in your life in general, is what makes it meaningful. Hope this helps. Wishing you the best.
As some people have said, the people you work with will really make or break your whole experience. If you’re not sure what you want then get a different job and take a couple years to scout out your options. Academia can be really tough, especially if you’ve not happy there
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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All choices are emotionally valid if they don’t harm others. That said, what you are saying isn’t untrue or uncommon and at the same time it isn’t everywhere in all of academia. Maybe you don’t want to work in that school?
I think what people are missing is this: you’ve assigned a ton of feeling and emotional meaning to your potential work in academia. All of the language you use in your post - like ‘heeding the call’ of working in academia or your ‘belief’ in the academe - suggests that you view academia as a nobler or more meaningful career path, almost like you would be destined to do it. The reality is that the world is not like that, and you are just now waking up to it. It’s not that you’re looking for empathy or compassion at your job - it’s that you held academia to a higher standard than “just a job” and are now realizing that it’s not the case. I just want to reassure you that you can be successful, make a difference, and be happy in your work both inside or outside academia. Both places are, at the end of the day, just places you can work, and the jobs in either are just the same as other jobs. What you do in your job, and in your life in general, is what makes it meaningful. Hope this helps. Wishing you the best.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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I think what people are missing is this: you’ve assigned a ton of feeling and emotional meaning to your potential work in academia. All of the language you use in your post - like ‘heeding the call’ of working in academia or your ‘belief’ in the academe - suggests that you view academia as a nobler or more meaningful career path, almost like you would be destined to do it. The reality is that the world is not like that, and you are just now waking up to it. It’s not that you’re looking for empathy or compassion at your job - it’s that you held academia to a higher standard than “just a job” and are now realizing that it’s not the case. I just want to reassure you that you can be successful, make a difference, and be happy in your work both inside or outside academia. Both places are, at the end of the day, just places you can work, and the jobs in either are just the same as other jobs. What you do in your job, and in your life in general, is what makes it meaningful. Hope this helps. Wishing you the best.
Yes. Academia is very competitive and difficult to succeed in. You really need to make sure your heart is in it. While professors claim to be compassionate, many of them are, honestly, just narcissists. Academia greatly rewards narcissists. Know what you are getting into.
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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Any feeling is emotionally valid, so yes. Getting a job outside academia isn't any better though. If you don't want to go into academia, don't. Asking reddit isn't going to change your mind.
I wanted to be a lawyer… and then I started working with lawyers and saw the corruption and loss of humanity and greed and… it just sickened me. So disheartening. I don’t want to become like them
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