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sdykoy
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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hugkw4h
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hugalq6
| 1,643,302,831 | 1,643,299,064 | 8 | 7 |
Who cares if it's "emotionally valid". If it's not for you, it's not for you. That's fine. If you spend your life only making decisions when you've had external affirmation that your views are emotionally valid you're not going to have a career and you're probably going to end up living a very mediocre life. You need to make decisions for yourself. No one else is going to manage your career and personal life for you and if you can't make decisions without others validating you, then you won't make any decisions. If you feel academia lacks empathy and compassion then you should leave and find a career that aligns better with your values. The fact I don't find my corner of academia like that doesn't negate your experiences nor is it a reason for you to stay in a career you aren't enjoying. Do what is best for you, others' judgements of your emotional validity are neither here nor there.
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You don't owe academia anything. Do what's right for you and put your happiness first. That said, I'm not sure that you'll find more flexibility or empathy in the corporate world. There's obviously a ton of variability in academia and in business and good people are working in both, but the sort of flexibility you're talking about is more common in academia where deadlines can be pretty squishy.
| 1 | 3,767 | 1.142857 | ||
sdykoy
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askacademia_train
| 0.88 |
Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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hughuxx
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hugkw4h
| 1,643,301,750 | 1,643,302,831 | 7 | 8 |
Do what makes you happy, but don't expect the private sector to be inherently more empathetic. The millions of people who lost their jobs due to the pandemic probably aren't feeling a lot of compassion right now. There are good and bad workplaces both inside and outside of academia.
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Who cares if it's "emotionally valid". If it's not for you, it's not for you. That's fine. If you spend your life only making decisions when you've had external affirmation that your views are emotionally valid you're not going to have a career and you're probably going to end up living a very mediocre life. You need to make decisions for yourself. No one else is going to manage your career and personal life for you and if you can't make decisions without others validating you, then you won't make any decisions. If you feel academia lacks empathy and compassion then you should leave and find a career that aligns better with your values. The fact I don't find my corner of academia like that doesn't negate your experiences nor is it a reason for you to stay in a career you aren't enjoying. Do what is best for you, others' judgements of your emotional validity are neither here nor there.
| 0 | 1,081 | 1.142857 | ||
sdykoy
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askacademia_train
| 0.88 |
Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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hug9tzg
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hugkw4h
| 1,643,298,775 | 1,643,302,831 | 7 | 8 |
I do not think there is anything wrong with steering away from a professional setting because you don't like the culture. However, I doubt industry would be any more understanding.
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Who cares if it's "emotionally valid". If it's not for you, it's not for you. That's fine. If you spend your life only making decisions when you've had external affirmation that your views are emotionally valid you're not going to have a career and you're probably going to end up living a very mediocre life. You need to make decisions for yourself. No one else is going to manage your career and personal life for you and if you can't make decisions without others validating you, then you won't make any decisions. If you feel academia lacks empathy and compassion then you should leave and find a career that aligns better with your values. The fact I don't find my corner of academia like that doesn't negate your experiences nor is it a reason for you to stay in a career you aren't enjoying. Do what is best for you, others' judgements of your emotional validity are neither here nor there.
| 0 | 4,056 | 1.142857 | ||
sdykoy
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askacademia_train
| 0.88 |
Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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hugk9vz
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hugkw4h
| 1,643,302,615 | 1,643,302,831 | 3 | 8 |
Your feelings are valid. I spent 15 years in academia and industry before I left due to the twisted priorities of those in charge and the powerlessness of those of us who are doing all the work. What we need is a strong union.
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Who cares if it's "emotionally valid". If it's not for you, it's not for you. That's fine. If you spend your life only making decisions when you've had external affirmation that your views are emotionally valid you're not going to have a career and you're probably going to end up living a very mediocre life. You need to make decisions for yourself. No one else is going to manage your career and personal life for you and if you can't make decisions without others validating you, then you won't make any decisions. If you feel academia lacks empathy and compassion then you should leave and find a career that aligns better with your values. The fact I don't find my corner of academia like that doesn't negate your experiences nor is it a reason for you to stay in a career you aren't enjoying. Do what is best for you, others' judgements of your emotional validity are neither here nor there.
| 0 | 216 | 2.666667 | ||
sdykoy
|
askacademia_train
| 0.88 |
Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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huh5odz
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huh7j5w
| 1,643,310,200 | 1,643,310,881 | 4 | 6 |
Look for a different location. Given what you’re saying, I’m kind of assuming you live in Florida or some other deep red state. Where I live (Hawaii), everyone has been super accommodating and my corporate job has too. Its not the industry, it’s the people.
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Hi OP, I feel like we belong to the same country (perhaps same institution?) based on your posts. Currently a researcher working on DOST-funded projects here. All of your feelings are valid and very understandable. It's something that most of our fellow colleagues have been struggling with and going through, from early career professionals to the more experienced PI's. My mental health since 2022 started has been so bad because of 1000001 problems our project has been facing, coupled with deadlines and difficult people. What can I say, we are all victims of a very flawed system. My advice as someone who's currently working (albeit broken and battered) for the academe and government? Give it another hard thought. Why did you dream to work at the academe in the first place? Was it because of DOST's call for more scientists? Is it because you want to teach and reach out to the younger minds? Or do you really just want to do science for a living? Why do you think you'd be better off looking for jobs abroad or in the industry? Is it out of spite, to escape a toxic environment and broken system? Or do you genuinely desire to broaden your horizon and see the world? I think knowing the reasons why will give you a better idea on the best direction to steer your career towards to after grad. Despite all the hardships, I don't regret staying (at least for now) and doing science here. I've learned skills and techniques I've otherwise won't be able to develop anywhere else. I've met some of the best colleagues in the lab, and sometimes after a hard day at work we go out for a couple of drinks and talk about our common problems with the system, dreaming about how we can change it around in the future when we advance into the academe ladder. I still hope to pursue further studies abroad, because I want to travel the world, learn things I otherwise have no opportunity to learn here, and upgrade my skillsets so that I can eventually come back, get a higher, stabler position with better salary, and maybe, just maybe, I could change something in the system to make it better. It's all a very idealistic view, but in essence I want you to consider that as the early career professionals who've witnessed and been victims of the system (and the people sitting up there now), we are the future generation's chance not to go through the same unnecessary hardships that we've gone through. Wherever you decide to go, you'll probably always find inconsiderate colleagues and flaws in the system. But I hope they never shake up whatever it is that you genuinely want to do in life. Also, it's OK to make the wrong career decisions. The door will always be there for you when you decide to leave, so don't pressure yourself too much to make the right decisions as early as now. This has gotten too long, and I apologize. I wish you all the best, and if you need anyone to talk to about this again, my inbox is open! :)
| 0 | 681 | 1.5 | ||
sdykoy
|
askacademia_train
| 0.88 |
Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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huh7j5w
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hugk9vz
| 1,643,310,881 | 1,643,302,615 | 6 | 3 |
Hi OP, I feel like we belong to the same country (perhaps same institution?) based on your posts. Currently a researcher working on DOST-funded projects here. All of your feelings are valid and very understandable. It's something that most of our fellow colleagues have been struggling with and going through, from early career professionals to the more experienced PI's. My mental health since 2022 started has been so bad because of 1000001 problems our project has been facing, coupled with deadlines and difficult people. What can I say, we are all victims of a very flawed system. My advice as someone who's currently working (albeit broken and battered) for the academe and government? Give it another hard thought. Why did you dream to work at the academe in the first place? Was it because of DOST's call for more scientists? Is it because you want to teach and reach out to the younger minds? Or do you really just want to do science for a living? Why do you think you'd be better off looking for jobs abroad or in the industry? Is it out of spite, to escape a toxic environment and broken system? Or do you genuinely desire to broaden your horizon and see the world? I think knowing the reasons why will give you a better idea on the best direction to steer your career towards to after grad. Despite all the hardships, I don't regret staying (at least for now) and doing science here. I've learned skills and techniques I've otherwise won't be able to develop anywhere else. I've met some of the best colleagues in the lab, and sometimes after a hard day at work we go out for a couple of drinks and talk about our common problems with the system, dreaming about how we can change it around in the future when we advance into the academe ladder. I still hope to pursue further studies abroad, because I want to travel the world, learn things I otherwise have no opportunity to learn here, and upgrade my skillsets so that I can eventually come back, get a higher, stabler position with better salary, and maybe, just maybe, I could change something in the system to make it better. It's all a very idealistic view, but in essence I want you to consider that as the early career professionals who've witnessed and been victims of the system (and the people sitting up there now), we are the future generation's chance not to go through the same unnecessary hardships that we've gone through. Wherever you decide to go, you'll probably always find inconsiderate colleagues and flaws in the system. But I hope they never shake up whatever it is that you genuinely want to do in life. Also, it's OK to make the wrong career decisions. The door will always be there for you when you decide to leave, so don't pressure yourself too much to make the right decisions as early as now. This has gotten too long, and I apologize. I wish you all the best, and if you need anyone to talk to about this again, my inbox is open! :)
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Your feelings are valid. I spent 15 years in academia and industry before I left due to the twisted priorities of those in charge and the powerlessness of those of us who are doing all the work. What we need is a strong union.
| 1 | 8,266 | 2 | ||
sdykoy
|
askacademia_train
| 0.88 |
Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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hugtuxo
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huh7j5w
| 1,643,305,993 | 1,643,310,881 | 3 | 6 |
As some people have said, the people you work with will really make or break your whole experience. If you’re not sure what you want then get a different job and take a couple years to scout out your options. Academia can be really tough, especially if you’ve not happy there
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Hi OP, I feel like we belong to the same country (perhaps same institution?) based on your posts. Currently a researcher working on DOST-funded projects here. All of your feelings are valid and very understandable. It's something that most of our fellow colleagues have been struggling with and going through, from early career professionals to the more experienced PI's. My mental health since 2022 started has been so bad because of 1000001 problems our project has been facing, coupled with deadlines and difficult people. What can I say, we are all victims of a very flawed system. My advice as someone who's currently working (albeit broken and battered) for the academe and government? Give it another hard thought. Why did you dream to work at the academe in the first place? Was it because of DOST's call for more scientists? Is it because you want to teach and reach out to the younger minds? Or do you really just want to do science for a living? Why do you think you'd be better off looking for jobs abroad or in the industry? Is it out of spite, to escape a toxic environment and broken system? Or do you genuinely desire to broaden your horizon and see the world? I think knowing the reasons why will give you a better idea on the best direction to steer your career towards to after grad. Despite all the hardships, I don't regret staying (at least for now) and doing science here. I've learned skills and techniques I've otherwise won't be able to develop anywhere else. I've met some of the best colleagues in the lab, and sometimes after a hard day at work we go out for a couple of drinks and talk about our common problems with the system, dreaming about how we can change it around in the future when we advance into the academe ladder. I still hope to pursue further studies abroad, because I want to travel the world, learn things I otherwise have no opportunity to learn here, and upgrade my skillsets so that I can eventually come back, get a higher, stabler position with better salary, and maybe, just maybe, I could change something in the system to make it better. It's all a very idealistic view, but in essence I want you to consider that as the early career professionals who've witnessed and been victims of the system (and the people sitting up there now), we are the future generation's chance not to go through the same unnecessary hardships that we've gone through. Wherever you decide to go, you'll probably always find inconsiderate colleagues and flaws in the system. But I hope they never shake up whatever it is that you genuinely want to do in life. Also, it's OK to make the wrong career decisions. The door will always be there for you when you decide to leave, so don't pressure yourself too much to make the right decisions as early as now. This has gotten too long, and I apologize. I wish you all the best, and if you need anyone to talk to about this again, my inbox is open! :)
| 0 | 4,888 | 2 | ||
sdykoy
|
askacademia_train
| 0.88 |
Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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huh7j5w
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hugy80i
| 1,643,310,881 | 1,643,307,550 | 6 | 3 |
Hi OP, I feel like we belong to the same country (perhaps same institution?) based on your posts. Currently a researcher working on DOST-funded projects here. All of your feelings are valid and very understandable. It's something that most of our fellow colleagues have been struggling with and going through, from early career professionals to the more experienced PI's. My mental health since 2022 started has been so bad because of 1000001 problems our project has been facing, coupled with deadlines and difficult people. What can I say, we are all victims of a very flawed system. My advice as someone who's currently working (albeit broken and battered) for the academe and government? Give it another hard thought. Why did you dream to work at the academe in the first place? Was it because of DOST's call for more scientists? Is it because you want to teach and reach out to the younger minds? Or do you really just want to do science for a living? Why do you think you'd be better off looking for jobs abroad or in the industry? Is it out of spite, to escape a toxic environment and broken system? Or do you genuinely desire to broaden your horizon and see the world? I think knowing the reasons why will give you a better idea on the best direction to steer your career towards to after grad. Despite all the hardships, I don't regret staying (at least for now) and doing science here. I've learned skills and techniques I've otherwise won't be able to develop anywhere else. I've met some of the best colleagues in the lab, and sometimes after a hard day at work we go out for a couple of drinks and talk about our common problems with the system, dreaming about how we can change it around in the future when we advance into the academe ladder. I still hope to pursue further studies abroad, because I want to travel the world, learn things I otherwise have no opportunity to learn here, and upgrade my skillsets so that I can eventually come back, get a higher, stabler position with better salary, and maybe, just maybe, I could change something in the system to make it better. It's all a very idealistic view, but in essence I want you to consider that as the early career professionals who've witnessed and been victims of the system (and the people sitting up there now), we are the future generation's chance not to go through the same unnecessary hardships that we've gone through. Wherever you decide to go, you'll probably always find inconsiderate colleagues and flaws in the system. But I hope they never shake up whatever it is that you genuinely want to do in life. Also, it's OK to make the wrong career decisions. The door will always be there for you when you decide to leave, so don't pressure yourself too much to make the right decisions as early as now. This has gotten too long, and I apologize. I wish you all the best, and if you need anyone to talk to about this again, my inbox is open! :)
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All choices are emotionally valid if they don’t harm others. That said, what you are saying isn’t untrue or uncommon and at the same time it isn’t everywhere in all of academia. Maybe you don’t want to work in that school?
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sdykoy
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askacademia_train
| 0.88 |
Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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huj3lux
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huh5odz
| 1,643,337,809 | 1,643,310,200 | 6 | 4 |
I feel like there’s a lack of compassion everywhere. Finding a good place is like finding a diamond in the rough. On media some companies/universities post the “great” stuff they do for employees. But then try talking to people from those companies and universities and they say otherwise. I feel like a lot of times that’s just for show. So I’d say find the place with the *least* bullshit whether it’s in or out of academia.
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Look for a different location. Given what you’re saying, I’m kind of assuming you live in Florida or some other deep red state. Where I live (Hawaii), everyone has been super accommodating and my corporate job has too. Its not the industry, it’s the people.
| 1 | 27,609 | 1.5 | ||
sdykoy
|
askacademia_train
| 0.88 |
Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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hugk9vz
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huh5odz
| 1,643,302,615 | 1,643,310,200 | 3 | 4 |
Your feelings are valid. I spent 15 years in academia and industry before I left due to the twisted priorities of those in charge and the powerlessness of those of us who are doing all the work. What we need is a strong union.
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Look for a different location. Given what you’re saying, I’m kind of assuming you live in Florida or some other deep red state. Where I live (Hawaii), everyone has been super accommodating and my corporate job has too. Its not the industry, it’s the people.
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sdykoy
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askacademia_train
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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huh5odz
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hugtuxo
| 1,643,310,200 | 1,643,305,993 | 4 | 3 |
Look for a different location. Given what you’re saying, I’m kind of assuming you live in Florida or some other deep red state. Where I live (Hawaii), everyone has been super accommodating and my corporate job has too. Its not the industry, it’s the people.
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As some people have said, the people you work with will really make or break your whole experience. If you’re not sure what you want then get a different job and take a couple years to scout out your options. Academia can be really tough, especially if you’ve not happy there
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sdykoy
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askacademia_train
| 0.88 |
Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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huh5odz
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hugy80i
| 1,643,310,200 | 1,643,307,550 | 4 | 3 |
Look for a different location. Given what you’re saying, I’m kind of assuming you live in Florida or some other deep red state. Where I live (Hawaii), everyone has been super accommodating and my corporate job has too. Its not the industry, it’s the people.
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All choices are emotionally valid if they don’t harm others. That said, what you are saying isn’t untrue or uncommon and at the same time it isn’t everywhere in all of academia. Maybe you don’t want to work in that school?
| 1 | 2,650 | 1.333333 | ||
sdykoy
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askacademia_train
| 0.88 |
Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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huj3lux
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huhe61x
| 1,643,337,809 | 1,643,313,312 | 6 | 3 |
I feel like there’s a lack of compassion everywhere. Finding a good place is like finding a diamond in the rough. On media some companies/universities post the “great” stuff they do for employees. But then try talking to people from those companies and universities and they say otherwise. I feel like a lot of times that’s just for show. So I’d say find the place with the *least* bullshit whether it’s in or out of academia.
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It sounds like you are judging an entire sector of society ("academe") by the actions of a very few people. There's a word for that.
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sdykoy
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askacademia_train
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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huj2ej5
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huj3lux
| 1,643,337,282 | 1,643,337,809 | 3 | 6 |
Don't ask the question of academia. They don't have the emotional intelligence to know the answer. However I think unless you choose a caring profession, you're going to find most industries lacking in empathy and compassion. It isn't just academia.
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I feel like there’s a lack of compassion everywhere. Finding a good place is like finding a diamond in the rough. On media some companies/universities post the “great” stuff they do for employees. But then try talking to people from those companies and universities and they say otherwise. I feel like a lot of times that’s just for show. So I’d say find the place with the *least* bullshit whether it’s in or out of academia.
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sdykoy
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askacademia_train
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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hugk9vz
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huj3lux
| 1,643,302,615 | 1,643,337,809 | 3 | 6 |
Your feelings are valid. I spent 15 years in academia and industry before I left due to the twisted priorities of those in charge and the powerlessness of those of us who are doing all the work. What we need is a strong union.
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I feel like there’s a lack of compassion everywhere. Finding a good place is like finding a diamond in the rough. On media some companies/universities post the “great” stuff they do for employees. But then try talking to people from those companies and universities and they say otherwise. I feel like a lot of times that’s just for show. So I’d say find the place with the *least* bullshit whether it’s in or out of academia.
| 0 | 35,194 | 2 | ||
sdykoy
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askacademia_train
| 0.88 |
Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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hugtuxo
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huj3lux
| 1,643,305,993 | 1,643,337,809 | 3 | 6 |
As some people have said, the people you work with will really make or break your whole experience. If you’re not sure what you want then get a different job and take a couple years to scout out your options. Academia can be really tough, especially if you’ve not happy there
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I feel like there’s a lack of compassion everywhere. Finding a good place is like finding a diamond in the rough. On media some companies/universities post the “great” stuff they do for employees. But then try talking to people from those companies and universities and they say otherwise. I feel like a lot of times that’s just for show. So I’d say find the place with the *least* bullshit whether it’s in or out of academia.
| 0 | 31,816 | 2 | ||
sdykoy
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askacademia_train
| 0.88 |
Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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huj3lux
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hugy80i
| 1,643,337,809 | 1,643,307,550 | 6 | 3 |
I feel like there’s a lack of compassion everywhere. Finding a good place is like finding a diamond in the rough. On media some companies/universities post the “great” stuff they do for employees. But then try talking to people from those companies and universities and they say otherwise. I feel like a lot of times that’s just for show. So I’d say find the place with the *least* bullshit whether it’s in or out of academia.
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All choices are emotionally valid if they don’t harm others. That said, what you are saying isn’t untrue or uncommon and at the same time it isn’t everywhere in all of academia. Maybe you don’t want to work in that school?
| 1 | 30,259 | 2 | ||
sdykoy
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askacademia_train
| 0.88 |
Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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huj3lux
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huh9ksv
| 1,643,337,809 | 1,643,311,630 | 6 | 3 |
I feel like there’s a lack of compassion everywhere. Finding a good place is like finding a diamond in the rough. On media some companies/universities post the “great” stuff they do for employees. But then try talking to people from those companies and universities and they say otherwise. I feel like a lot of times that’s just for show. So I’d say find the place with the *least* bullshit whether it’s in or out of academia.
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Yes. Academia is very competitive and difficult to succeed in. You really need to make sure your heart is in it. While professors claim to be compassionate, many of them are, honestly, just narcissists. Academia greatly rewards narcissists. Know what you are getting into.
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sdykoy
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askacademia_train
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Is it emotionally valid to steer away from academia due to its lack of empathy and compassion? I'm a graduating student in the university and it was my dream to become a professor and a researcher one day since our country lacks them. It was always the statement of our country's Department of Science and Technology and I was thinking before that I want to heed the call. This pandemic however broke my belief towards the academe. I can manage the burnout and the stressful learning curves of the academe. My problem however was the lack of empathy and pedanticism of the professors. Even though the Omicron surged and some universities in our country suspended classes and deadlines, our university did not even budge. The professor did not even ask if our late submissions were due to sickness. Scores were slashed off. Everything was cut-off and deducted as if there's no surge in our country. My partner became positive with Omicron and she begged almost all her professors through e-mail. **Her** deadlines were just extended by a few days as if a person can recover from it in just a week. I just realized "fk it!" I can't work with such people if I become a researcher and a professor one day. I realized that my dream to be in the academe is a sham. I can't be with people with no empathy and don't get me started with the low salary. I'm done with pedanticism. Did you guys also feel the same way at some point?
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huj3lux
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huhm6uo
| 1,643,337,809 | 1,643,316,271 | 6 | 3 |
I feel like there’s a lack of compassion everywhere. Finding a good place is like finding a diamond in the rough. On media some companies/universities post the “great” stuff they do for employees. But then try talking to people from those companies and universities and they say otherwise. I feel like a lot of times that’s just for show. So I’d say find the place with the *least* bullshit whether it’s in or out of academia.
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We went online when covid hit, got refunds for services not used, institution actually issued an official policy allowing you to have bad grades removed during the time of covid because of stress and such. Professors have been very accommodating and understanding. Don’t toss out the good that comes from academia because of bad experiences at one institution.
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msa8fv
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askacademia_train
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I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gurs0i2
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gurhis1
| 1,618,608,163 | 1,618,603,390 | 30 | 26 |
So, I freaking love my TT job- love my dept, love my students, got tenure last year. It’s my dream job. And.... this year BLEW. It was terrible. It was demoralizing and doing things remotely took all the fun parts out and all the support out and just left the worst parts of the job. Not that you have to stay in your job forever or even one minute longer, but this was truly a shitty year all around and it’s not a perfect career but I promise it can be better than this.
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My best advice would be to do the job because of your own internalized interests in your field; no matter how much you achieve (eg big paper, big grant, recognition, whatever), the external validation from those achievements is only temporarily uplifting. Do the science for *you*, not for your colleagues or peers or students. Just remember your smart enough and good enough and gosh darn it people like you.
| 1 | 4,773 | 1.153846 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gurs0i2
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gurlq96
| 1,618,608,163 | 1,618,605,263 | 30 | 20 |
So, I freaking love my TT job- love my dept, love my students, got tenure last year. It’s my dream job. And.... this year BLEW. It was terrible. It was demoralizing and doing things remotely took all the fun parts out and all the support out and just left the worst parts of the job. Not that you have to stay in your job forever or even one minute longer, but this was truly a shitty year all around and it’s not a perfect career but I promise it can be better than this.
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Hello fellow ChemE! You aren't alone. This is year 1 after tenure as associate prof. My weight ballooned this year. This year for me has been the most unproductive mess of a year. The rejection never stops. Sometimes rejection happens not because you did anything wrong but for "reasons." I hope you have some mentors in your department who can guide you on expectations leading towards reviews. Don't take the first year as a sign of anything to come. My first year was only about surviving and that was it. It wasn't until year 4 that proposal traction was gained and landed a CAREER. I'm happy to have a distanced coffee chat to maybe vent or strategize some good habits! Feel free to reach out
| 1 | 2,900 | 1.5 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gurs0i2
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gurrbpf
| 1,618,608,163 | 1,618,607,833 | 30 | 3 |
So, I freaking love my TT job- love my dept, love my students, got tenure last year. It’s my dream job. And.... this year BLEW. It was terrible. It was demoralizing and doing things remotely took all the fun parts out and all the support out and just left the worst parts of the job. Not that you have to stay in your job forever or even one minute longer, but this was truly a shitty year all around and it’s not a perfect career but I promise it can be better than this.
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If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best.
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msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gurhis1
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gus4ybb
| 1,618,603,390 | 1,618,614,740 | 26 | 30 |
My best advice would be to do the job because of your own internalized interests in your field; no matter how much you achieve (eg big paper, big grant, recognition, whatever), the external validation from those achievements is only temporarily uplifting. Do the science for *you*, not for your colleagues or peers or students. Just remember your smart enough and good enough and gosh darn it people like you.
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I’m TT (year 2) and think about quitting every day. I work constantly. I have become numb to rejection and the good news no longer brings me joy, it’s just a tiny bit of relief at most. I did recently get a grant but I am honestly almost resentful of it because now I feel tied to this position for several more years. The flexibility of this career is great and overall I like each task I do, but there are too many of them, and in an under resourced dept, we are all taking on way too much such that everything is devoid of joy. The salary is peanuts and the rewards are perverse. Just because you got here doesn’t mean you need to stay. I don’t think I’ll make it long term unless things get dramatically better in the next 2 years. This career path has relied on antiquated ideas of prestige for too long and those entering now realize that that’s not enough to sustain us, mentally or financially. You’re not alone and I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this. Take care of yourself and know it’s okay to leave for a healthier life. The academy will never love us back. Having a therapist and getting exercise most days is helping me get through.
| 0 | 11,350 | 1.153846 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gus4ybb
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gurlq96
| 1,618,614,740 | 1,618,605,263 | 30 | 20 |
I’m TT (year 2) and think about quitting every day. I work constantly. I have become numb to rejection and the good news no longer brings me joy, it’s just a tiny bit of relief at most. I did recently get a grant but I am honestly almost resentful of it because now I feel tied to this position for several more years. The flexibility of this career is great and overall I like each task I do, but there are too many of them, and in an under resourced dept, we are all taking on way too much such that everything is devoid of joy. The salary is peanuts and the rewards are perverse. Just because you got here doesn’t mean you need to stay. I don’t think I’ll make it long term unless things get dramatically better in the next 2 years. This career path has relied on antiquated ideas of prestige for too long and those entering now realize that that’s not enough to sustain us, mentally or financially. You’re not alone and I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this. Take care of yourself and know it’s okay to leave for a healthier life. The academy will never love us back. Having a therapist and getting exercise most days is helping me get through.
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Hello fellow ChemE! You aren't alone. This is year 1 after tenure as associate prof. My weight ballooned this year. This year for me has been the most unproductive mess of a year. The rejection never stops. Sometimes rejection happens not because you did anything wrong but for "reasons." I hope you have some mentors in your department who can guide you on expectations leading towards reviews. Don't take the first year as a sign of anything to come. My first year was only about surviving and that was it. It wasn't until year 4 that proposal traction was gained and landed a CAREER. I'm happy to have a distanced coffee chat to maybe vent or strategize some good habits! Feel free to reach out
| 1 | 9,477 | 1.5 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gurs8nl
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gus4ybb
| 1,618,608,273 | 1,618,614,740 | 20 | 30 |
Sorry to hear about your experience. 1. You absolutely need to establish some sense of balance in your life. You need to set foot outside your house *every* day for a month. 2. 5 grant proposals in a year sounds quite astonishing to me. Were you 100% satisfied with each of them when you submitted them? Some advice I got was to focus on one proposal per year and make that one as strong as possible, which leads to a much higher success chance than five medicore ones.
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I’m TT (year 2) and think about quitting every day. I work constantly. I have become numb to rejection and the good news no longer brings me joy, it’s just a tiny bit of relief at most. I did recently get a grant but I am honestly almost resentful of it because now I feel tied to this position for several more years. The flexibility of this career is great and overall I like each task I do, but there are too many of them, and in an under resourced dept, we are all taking on way too much such that everything is devoid of joy. The salary is peanuts and the rewards are perverse. Just because you got here doesn’t mean you need to stay. I don’t think I’ll make it long term unless things get dramatically better in the next 2 years. This career path has relied on antiquated ideas of prestige for too long and those entering now realize that that’s not enough to sustain us, mentally or financially. You’re not alone and I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this. Take care of yourself and know it’s okay to leave for a healthier life. The academy will never love us back. Having a therapist and getting exercise most days is helping me get through.
| 0 | 6,467 | 1.5 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gus4ybb
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gurt9z0
| 1,618,614,740 | 1,618,608,779 | 30 | 16 |
I’m TT (year 2) and think about quitting every day. I work constantly. I have become numb to rejection and the good news no longer brings me joy, it’s just a tiny bit of relief at most. I did recently get a grant but I am honestly almost resentful of it because now I feel tied to this position for several more years. The flexibility of this career is great and overall I like each task I do, but there are too many of them, and in an under resourced dept, we are all taking on way too much such that everything is devoid of joy. The salary is peanuts and the rewards are perverse. Just because you got here doesn’t mean you need to stay. I don’t think I’ll make it long term unless things get dramatically better in the next 2 years. This career path has relied on antiquated ideas of prestige for too long and those entering now realize that that’s not enough to sustain us, mentally or financially. You’re not alone and I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this. Take care of yourself and know it’s okay to leave for a healthier life. The academy will never love us back. Having a therapist and getting exercise most days is helping me get through.
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Oh Man, after reading this, I have realised that my PhD problems are nothing compared to this. How can you live a healthy life after going through all this?
| 1 | 5,961 | 1.875 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gus4ybb
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gurts0h
| 1,618,614,740 | 1,618,609,024 | 30 | 9 |
I’m TT (year 2) and think about quitting every day. I work constantly. I have become numb to rejection and the good news no longer brings me joy, it’s just a tiny bit of relief at most. I did recently get a grant but I am honestly almost resentful of it because now I feel tied to this position for several more years. The flexibility of this career is great and overall I like each task I do, but there are too many of them, and in an under resourced dept, we are all taking on way too much such that everything is devoid of joy. The salary is peanuts and the rewards are perverse. Just because you got here doesn’t mean you need to stay. I don’t think I’ll make it long term unless things get dramatically better in the next 2 years. This career path has relied on antiquated ideas of prestige for too long and those entering now realize that that’s not enough to sustain us, mentally or financially. You’re not alone and I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this. Take care of yourself and know it’s okay to leave for a healthier life. The academy will never love us back. Having a therapist and getting exercise most days is helping me get through.
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It was a terrible time for it to be your first year. It really does get easier, in part because you learn a way to live with never getting stuff done. Once you have some preps under your belt and you learn how to manage your class so that it takes up less time, it gets much, much better . It is also exhausting and stressful because everything you need to do you don't know anything about. This is a vicious cycle, which is the bad news, because once you knock out some of the jenga blocks of happiness, shit goes downhill fast. But the good news it is - it is geometric in the opposite direction also. Take a walk, play with your dog, talk to some friends, do something that makes you a little bit happy. Get a little bit of exercise every day, even if it is a 15 min walk. Your planner is your friend. Tasks will expand to take up however much time you have.
| 1 | 5,716 | 3.333333 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gurw30j
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gus4ybb
| 1,618,610,151 | 1,618,614,740 | 9 | 30 |
I won't tell anyone who hates their job to not quit if they can do something else, but are you connected with anyone else who is TT or otherwise? I have found, after being FT for a few years, that my professional connections have sustained me more than anything else.
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I’m TT (year 2) and think about quitting every day. I work constantly. I have become numb to rejection and the good news no longer brings me joy, it’s just a tiny bit of relief at most. I did recently get a grant but I am honestly almost resentful of it because now I feel tied to this position for several more years. The flexibility of this career is great and overall I like each task I do, but there are too many of them, and in an under resourced dept, we are all taking on way too much such that everything is devoid of joy. The salary is peanuts and the rewards are perverse. Just because you got here doesn’t mean you need to stay. I don’t think I’ll make it long term unless things get dramatically better in the next 2 years. This career path has relied on antiquated ideas of prestige for too long and those entering now realize that that’s not enough to sustain us, mentally or financially. You’re not alone and I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this. Take care of yourself and know it’s okay to leave for a healthier life. The academy will never love us back. Having a therapist and getting exercise most days is helping me get through.
| 0 | 4,589 | 3.333333 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gus4izy
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gus4ybb
| 1,618,614,508 | 1,618,614,740 | 6 | 30 |
The negative feedback is going to come whether you work yourself to death or not, so I'd suggest to take care of yourself rather than not setting a foot outside your home. I used to overwork myself and I can't say I get better feedback now, I probably get the same, but I'm not as tired. I do the best that I can without tiring myself out.
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I’m TT (year 2) and think about quitting every day. I work constantly. I have become numb to rejection and the good news no longer brings me joy, it’s just a tiny bit of relief at most. I did recently get a grant but I am honestly almost resentful of it because now I feel tied to this position for several more years. The flexibility of this career is great and overall I like each task I do, but there are too many of them, and in an under resourced dept, we are all taking on way too much such that everything is devoid of joy. The salary is peanuts and the rewards are perverse. Just because you got here doesn’t mean you need to stay. I don’t think I’ll make it long term unless things get dramatically better in the next 2 years. This career path has relied on antiquated ideas of prestige for too long and those entering now realize that that’s not enough to sustain us, mentally or financially. You’re not alone and I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this. Take care of yourself and know it’s okay to leave for a healthier life. The academy will never love us back. Having a therapist and getting exercise most days is helping me get through.
| 0 | 232 | 5 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gurrbpf
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gus4ybb
| 1,618,607,833 | 1,618,614,740 | 3 | 30 |
If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best.
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I’m TT (year 2) and think about quitting every day. I work constantly. I have become numb to rejection and the good news no longer brings me joy, it’s just a tiny bit of relief at most. I did recently get a grant but I am honestly almost resentful of it because now I feel tied to this position for several more years. The flexibility of this career is great and overall I like each task I do, but there are too many of them, and in an under resourced dept, we are all taking on way too much such that everything is devoid of joy. The salary is peanuts and the rewards are perverse. Just because you got here doesn’t mean you need to stay. I don’t think I’ll make it long term unless things get dramatically better in the next 2 years. This career path has relied on antiquated ideas of prestige for too long and those entering now realize that that’s not enough to sustain us, mentally or financially. You’re not alone and I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this. Take care of yourself and know it’s okay to leave for a healthier life. The academy will never love us back. Having a therapist and getting exercise most days is helping me get through.
| 0 | 6,907 | 10 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gurrbpf
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gurs8nl
| 1,618,607,833 | 1,618,608,273 | 3 | 20 |
If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best.
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Sorry to hear about your experience. 1. You absolutely need to establish some sense of balance in your life. You need to set foot outside your house *every* day for a month. 2. 5 grant proposals in a year sounds quite astonishing to me. Were you 100% satisfied with each of them when you submitted them? Some advice I got was to focus on one proposal per year and make that one as strong as possible, which leads to a much higher success chance than five medicore ones.
| 0 | 440 | 6.666667 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gurt9z0
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gurrbpf
| 1,618,608,779 | 1,618,607,833 | 16 | 3 |
Oh Man, after reading this, I have realised that my PhD problems are nothing compared to this. How can you live a healthy life after going through all this?
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If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best.
| 1 | 946 | 5.333333 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gurts0h
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gus5qqh
| 1,618,609,024 | 1,618,615,159 | 9 | 14 |
It was a terrible time for it to be your first year. It really does get easier, in part because you learn a way to live with never getting stuff done. Once you have some preps under your belt and you learn how to manage your class so that it takes up less time, it gets much, much better . It is also exhausting and stressful because everything you need to do you don't know anything about. This is a vicious cycle, which is the bad news, because once you knock out some of the jenga blocks of happiness, shit goes downhill fast. But the good news it is - it is geometric in the opposite direction also. Take a walk, play with your dog, talk to some friends, do something that makes you a little bit happy. Get a little bit of exercise every day, even if it is a 15 min walk. Your planner is your friend. Tasks will expand to take up however much time you have.
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I've been at this for 25 years now and without question this was the worst year every for almost everyone I know in higher ed. There was very little to celebrate and a hell of a lot to mourn/hate/revile/be annoyed about. I can't imagine what it would be like to start out this year...the only thing I can suggest it that it will likely get better so maybe give it another year?
| 0 | 6,135 | 1.555556 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gurw30j
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gus5qqh
| 1,618,610,151 | 1,618,615,159 | 9 | 14 |
I won't tell anyone who hates their job to not quit if they can do something else, but are you connected with anyone else who is TT or otherwise? I have found, after being FT for a few years, that my professional connections have sustained me more than anything else.
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I've been at this for 25 years now and without question this was the worst year every for almost everyone I know in higher ed. There was very little to celebrate and a hell of a lot to mourn/hate/revile/be annoyed about. I can't imagine what it would be like to start out this year...the only thing I can suggest it that it will likely get better so maybe give it another year?
| 0 | 5,008 | 1.555556 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gus5qqh
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gus4izy
| 1,618,615,159 | 1,618,614,508 | 14 | 6 |
I've been at this for 25 years now and without question this was the worst year every for almost everyone I know in higher ed. There was very little to celebrate and a hell of a lot to mourn/hate/revile/be annoyed about. I can't imagine what it would be like to start out this year...the only thing I can suggest it that it will likely get better so maybe give it another year?
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The negative feedback is going to come whether you work yourself to death or not, so I'd suggest to take care of yourself rather than not setting a foot outside your home. I used to overwork myself and I can't say I get better feedback now, I probably get the same, but I'm not as tired. I do the best that I can without tiring myself out.
| 1 | 651 | 2.333333 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gurrbpf
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gus5qqh
| 1,618,607,833 | 1,618,615,159 | 3 | 14 |
If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best.
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I've been at this for 25 years now and without question this was the worst year every for almost everyone I know in higher ed. There was very little to celebrate and a hell of a lot to mourn/hate/revile/be annoyed about. I can't imagine what it would be like to start out this year...the only thing I can suggest it that it will likely get better so maybe give it another year?
| 0 | 7,326 | 4.666667 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gurrbpf
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gurts0h
| 1,618,607,833 | 1,618,609,024 | 3 | 9 |
If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best.
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It was a terrible time for it to be your first year. It really does get easier, in part because you learn a way to live with never getting stuff done. Once you have some preps under your belt and you learn how to manage your class so that it takes up less time, it gets much, much better . It is also exhausting and stressful because everything you need to do you don't know anything about. This is a vicious cycle, which is the bad news, because once you knock out some of the jenga blocks of happiness, shit goes downhill fast. But the good news it is - it is geometric in the opposite direction also. Take a walk, play with your dog, talk to some friends, do something that makes you a little bit happy. Get a little bit of exercise every day, even if it is a 15 min walk. Your planner is your friend. Tasks will expand to take up however much time you have.
| 0 | 1,191 | 3 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gurw30j
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gurrbpf
| 1,618,610,151 | 1,618,607,833 | 9 | 3 |
I won't tell anyone who hates their job to not quit if they can do something else, but are you connected with anyone else who is TT or otherwise? I have found, after being FT for a few years, that my professional connections have sustained me more than anything else.
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If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best.
| 1 | 2,318 | 3 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gus7iab
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gus4izy
| 1,618,616,088 | 1,618,614,508 | 7 | 6 |
I’m in a similar position. Do you also feel like you should be happy given that it’s a TT position?
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The negative feedback is going to come whether you work yourself to death or not, so I'd suggest to take care of yourself rather than not setting a foot outside your home. I used to overwork myself and I can't say I get better feedback now, I probably get the same, but I'm not as tired. I do the best that I can without tiring myself out.
| 1 | 1,580 | 1.166667 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gusl7bp
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gus4izy
| 1,618,623,467 | 1,618,614,508 | 7 | 6 |
Friend, very few people get noticeable external grants in their first year. Most folks I know get their big NSF/NIH/DARPA awards 3-4 years in. That's why startup funds exist. Don't blame yourself for a year 1. These are extraordinary times.
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The negative feedback is going to come whether you work yourself to death or not, so I'd suggest to take care of yourself rather than not setting a foot outside your home. I used to overwork myself and I can't say I get better feedback now, I probably get the same, but I'm not as tired. I do the best that I can without tiring myself out.
| 1 | 8,959 | 1.166667 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gurrbpf
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gus4izy
| 1,618,607,833 | 1,618,614,508 | 3 | 6 |
If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best.
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The negative feedback is going to come whether you work yourself to death or not, so I'd suggest to take care of yourself rather than not setting a foot outside your home. I used to overwork myself and I can't say I get better feedback now, I probably get the same, but I'm not as tired. I do the best that I can without tiring myself out.
| 0 | 6,675 | 2 | ||
msa8fv
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askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gus7iab
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gurrbpf
| 1,618,616,088 | 1,618,607,833 | 7 | 3 |
I’m in a similar position. Do you also feel like you should be happy given that it’s a TT position?
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If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best.
| 1 | 8,255 | 2.333333 | ||
msa8fv
|
askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gusl7bp
|
gurrbpf
| 1,618,623,467 | 1,618,607,833 | 7 | 3 |
Friend, very few people get noticeable external grants in their first year. Most folks I know get their big NSF/NIH/DARPA awards 3-4 years in. That's why startup funds exist. Don't blame yourself for a year 1. These are extraordinary times.
|
If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best.
| 1 | 15,634 | 2.333333 | ||
msa8fv
|
askacademia_train
| 0.97 |
I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen.
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gustjjw
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gurrbpf
| 1,618,628,160 | 1,618,607,833 | 5 | 3 |
You need to break down your problems one at a time. Weight gain, overworking, never leaving the house: Get yourself on a schedule of some sort where you go for a walk or get some sort of exercise once a day. Grants: I hear you on this one. Students: Gotta figure out what the problem is. Can't help you on that but I'm sure they're trying really hard to do the best they can too.
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If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best.
| 1 | 20,327 | 1.666667 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq77ab
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idpwxaz
| 1,656,189,035 | 1,656,184,259 | 421 | 311 |
I’m in physics (obviously STEM), and there is a funny thing that happens where established physicists get kind of bored with their discipline and all of a sudden start becoming self-proclaimed experts in psychology / philosophy / history / linguistics. It seems that when people are really good at one thing, they often overestimate their abilities at everything else. PhD students do this too to some extent.
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That they don't have as much of a grasp on things as they think they do, and sometimes they "sound dumb" as much as I would talking about a STEM field on an academic level. As long as you have this understanding I think you're fine and people would be willing to explain. I'm in linguistics so I have to listen to a lot of people talk about it thinking they can just intuitively know everything about the field just because they are language speakers and it feels disrespectful sometimes because they are very often wrong.
| 1 | 4,776 | 1.353698 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idpy2d8
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idq77ab
| 1,656,184,788 | 1,656,189,035 | 209 | 421 |
We don’t have labs or PIs, and we don’t need grants to cover our salaries or get tenure. Most of our publications are single-author, and are much slower than most STEM fields. Single-author monographs (books) published by university presses are the gold standard. Impact factor is not a thing. Postdocs are much more rare, not part of the standard career trajectory.
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I’m in physics (obviously STEM), and there is a funny thing that happens where established physicists get kind of bored with their discipline and all of a sudden start becoming self-proclaimed experts in psychology / philosophy / history / linguistics. It seems that when people are really good at one thing, they often overestimate their abilities at everything else. PhD students do this too to some extent.
| 0 | 4,247 | 2.014354 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq6mss
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idq77ab
| 1,656,188,772 | 1,656,189,035 | 107 | 421 |
That all forms of instruction are political. You can hide it better in STEM, but to think there are not political, ethical, and moral implications of what you do is deeply neoliberal - which IS a political ideology.
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I’m in physics (obviously STEM), and there is a funny thing that happens where established physicists get kind of bored with their discipline and all of a sudden start becoming self-proclaimed experts in psychology / philosophy / history / linguistics. It seems that when people are really good at one thing, they often overestimate their abilities at everything else. PhD students do this too to some extent.
| 0 | 263 | 3.934579 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq77ab
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idq124d
| 1,656,189,035 | 1,656,186,166 | 421 | 70 |
I’m in physics (obviously STEM), and there is a funny thing that happens where established physicists get kind of bored with their discipline and all of a sudden start becoming self-proclaimed experts in psychology / philosophy / history / linguistics. It seems that when people are really good at one thing, they often overestimate their abilities at everything else. PhD students do this too to some extent.
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Every person has an opinion on the economy. Most are idiotic.
| 1 | 2,869 | 6.014286 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq36ah
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idq77ab
| 1,656,187,158 | 1,656,189,035 | 57 | 421 |
The challenges of measurement. I focus on educational psychology and I am helping one of my university’s STEM organizations develop an assessment for graduate students. They already had a foundational rubric started that they want to build from. Holy crap do I wish they’d brought in help beforehand. This thing is messy and complicated and their original plan for validity evidence skipped so many steps. Assessing learning is hard and making a good measure is even harder. Add in natural measurement error, and it’s a field that people make careers out of. You can’t just jump in and understand it
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I’m in physics (obviously STEM), and there is a funny thing that happens where established physicists get kind of bored with their discipline and all of a sudden start becoming self-proclaimed experts in psychology / philosophy / history / linguistics. It seems that when people are really good at one thing, they often overestimate their abilities at everything else. PhD students do this too to some extent.
| 0 | 1,877 | 7.385965 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq05mt
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idq77ab
| 1,656,185,749 | 1,656,189,035 | 41 | 421 |
That the need to talk with students and mentor them is critical and not some fad from Gen Z that will go away. I'm aware STEM classes have some huge numbers and giving each student one-on-one time isn't always plausible and it isn't in the job description. But, if your school/state has garbage mental health resources then your students are going to lean on you sometimes. I don't have a solution, just know there IS a social aspect to the job. If you're only interested in padding your CV you will soon be seen as an ineffective educator. As student enrollment declines and retention rates drop, administration will look at student reviews closer to improve those numbers.
|
I’m in physics (obviously STEM), and there is a funny thing that happens where established physicists get kind of bored with their discipline and all of a sudden start becoming self-proclaimed experts in psychology / philosophy / history / linguistics. It seems that when people are really good at one thing, they often overestimate their abilities at everything else. PhD students do this too to some extent.
| 0 | 3,286 | 10.268293 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq1xgq
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idq77ab
| 1,656,186,571 | 1,656,189,035 | 26 | 421 |
I am sitting in STEM (CS), but have been working with humanities and social scientists (HSS) most of my academic life —a year or two ago, I was even considering a faculty position in a social sciences department. In fact, I recently a published whitepaper arguing on the need for CS people to talk more with sociologists and political scientists —we do quite well with psychologists, but we could benefit from some social sciences. Having said the above, I would state against the hubris that STEM people, including myself, doing of trying to rediscover *everything* and represent everyhting mathematically. I understand that maths are pretty, verifiable, and so on but trying to trimmed down complex notions such as discrinimation and fairness into a simple computationally-easy formula is nothing else than hubris that ignores decades of HSS work and cultural aspects. Now, if I may be critical back to HSS researchers, it needs to be said: we are not all sun-hating nerds that hate human interactions and have no interests outside our formulas.
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I’m in physics (obviously STEM), and there is a funny thing that happens where established physicists get kind of bored with their discipline and all of a sudden start becoming self-proclaimed experts in psychology / philosophy / history / linguistics. It seems that when people are really good at one thing, they often overestimate their abilities at everything else. PhD students do this too to some extent.
| 0 | 2,464 | 16.192308 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idqmmf5
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idq6mss
| 1,656,196,369 | 1,656,188,772 | 185 | 107 |
Industry jobs after PhD are less common for us. If I complain about something about the job, i get answers like "i switched to the industry, earn triple the salary and have great hours, never looked back" from STEM people.
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That all forms of instruction are political. You can hide it better in STEM, but to think there are not political, ethical, and moral implications of what you do is deeply neoliberal - which IS a political ideology.
| 1 | 7,597 | 1.728972 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idqmmf5
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idqhflt
| 1,656,196,369 | 1,656,193,857 | 185 | 97 |
Industry jobs after PhD are less common for us. If I complain about something about the job, i get answers like "i switched to the industry, earn triple the salary and have great hours, never looked back" from STEM people.
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When I mentor undergraduate research, it doesn't contribute much to my own research. I don't get a co-authorship. They don't generate data that I can then use. My time mentoring them is time away from my own research. Likewise, when my students get a publication, it means they came up with the research question, they did all the research, and they wrote it up themselves. I mentor them, but it's their own original, single-author contribution to the scholarship.
| 1 | 2,512 | 1.907216 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq124d
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idqmmf5
| 1,656,186,166 | 1,656,196,369 | 70 | 185 |
Every person has an opinion on the economy. Most are idiotic.
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Industry jobs after PhD are less common for us. If I complain about something about the job, i get answers like "i switched to the industry, earn triple the salary and have great hours, never looked back" from STEM people.
| 0 | 10,203 | 2.642857 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idqmmf5
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idq36ah
| 1,656,196,369 | 1,656,187,158 | 185 | 57 |
Industry jobs after PhD are less common for us. If I complain about something about the job, i get answers like "i switched to the industry, earn triple the salary and have great hours, never looked back" from STEM people.
|
The challenges of measurement. I focus on educational psychology and I am helping one of my university’s STEM organizations develop an assessment for graduate students. They already had a foundational rubric started that they want to build from. Holy crap do I wish they’d brought in help beforehand. This thing is messy and complicated and their original plan for validity evidence skipped so many steps. Assessing learning is hard and making a good measure is even harder. Add in natural measurement error, and it’s a field that people make careers out of. You can’t just jump in and understand it
| 1 | 9,211 | 3.245614 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idqmmf5
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idqigpe
| 1,656,196,369 | 1,656,194,360 | 185 | 51 |
Industry jobs after PhD are less common for us. If I complain about something about the job, i get answers like "i switched to the industry, earn triple the salary and have great hours, never looked back" from STEM people.
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Some STEM people think they know more about the humanities subject than the humanities scholar. As a musician, I regularly saw STEM people talk over arts scholars with their knowledge of coding. It's impressive that you can code but without critical understanding, it has no use. Example: we wanted to recreate a composition from the early 1990s for piano and computer. The engineer guy said he would recode it but in another language and he did not want to comment the code because he felt it was a waste of time. That way, it effectively became useless for future musicians if they had no access to that engineer. The use of a different programming language also would make it into a completely different work. Only after long discussions, we could convince him to work with the original language (which is still in use) and comment the code. But it was not a fun ride.
| 1 | 2,009 | 3.627451 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq8qc4
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idqmmf5
| 1,656,189,742 | 1,656,196,369 | 44 | 185 |
economy and engineering are not the same thing and "supply and demand" is not everything it has about economy. it is not even the only way to think about markets.
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Industry jobs after PhD are less common for us. If I complain about something about the job, i get answers like "i switched to the industry, earn triple the salary and have great hours, never looked back" from STEM people.
| 0 | 6,627 | 4.204545 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idqmmf5
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idq05mt
| 1,656,196,369 | 1,656,185,749 | 185 | 41 |
Industry jobs after PhD are less common for us. If I complain about something about the job, i get answers like "i switched to the industry, earn triple the salary and have great hours, never looked back" from STEM people.
|
That the need to talk with students and mentor them is critical and not some fad from Gen Z that will go away. I'm aware STEM classes have some huge numbers and giving each student one-on-one time isn't always plausible and it isn't in the job description. But, if your school/state has garbage mental health resources then your students are going to lean on you sometimes. I don't have a solution, just know there IS a social aspect to the job. If you're only interested in padding your CV you will soon be seen as an ineffective educator. As student enrollment declines and retention rates drop, administration will look at student reviews closer to improve those numbers.
| 1 | 10,620 | 4.512195 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idqmmf5
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idq1xgq
| 1,656,196,369 | 1,656,186,571 | 185 | 26 |
Industry jobs after PhD are less common for us. If I complain about something about the job, i get answers like "i switched to the industry, earn triple the salary and have great hours, never looked back" from STEM people.
|
I am sitting in STEM (CS), but have been working with humanities and social scientists (HSS) most of my academic life —a year or two ago, I was even considering a faculty position in a social sciences department. In fact, I recently a published whitepaper arguing on the need for CS people to talk more with sociologists and political scientists —we do quite well with psychologists, but we could benefit from some social sciences. Having said the above, I would state against the hubris that STEM people, including myself, doing of trying to rediscover *everything* and represent everyhting mathematically. I understand that maths are pretty, verifiable, and so on but trying to trimmed down complex notions such as discrinimation and fairness into a simple computationally-easy formula is nothing else than hubris that ignores decades of HSS work and cultural aspects. Now, if I may be critical back to HSS researchers, it needs to be said: we are not all sun-hating nerds that hate human interactions and have no interests outside our formulas.
| 1 | 9,798 | 7.115385 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idqmmf5
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idqctyk
| 1,656,196,369 | 1,656,191,667 | 185 | 27 |
Industry jobs after PhD are less common for us. If I complain about something about the job, i get answers like "i switched to the industry, earn triple the salary and have great hours, never looked back" from STEM people.
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That I cannot continue to shoulder the fight for health and human rights alone. My discipline is public health. I am American. I am a woman. Every time there's a school shooting, or a new pandemic, or fundamental destruction of basic reproductive rights and freedom, society looks to me and my colleagues for a solution. And I don't know what to say anymore. Most days, the problem is not an academic one, it's a political one. We are screaming out answers, and no one is listening. It's exhausting to go to work every day and advance the science in my field, only to have it die at the hands of a corporation or politician. I am exhausted. I am underpaid and undervalued. Some days I can barely keep it together to fulfill my job duties. How am I supposed to find the strength to do the jobs of everyone else that has seemingly abandoned the social contract? Every time there's a social crisis, some admin releases a statement about how *I* can take action. Why does it have to be just me? I'm not a politician. I'm a researcher. I was never prepared for this. If you're in STEM and you turn to your colleagues in social sciences for answers, maybe first stop and ask yourself what you can do. Then actually do it. Donate to an organization. Attend a protest. Vote. Help register others to vote. Canvas during elections. You don't have to be an expert. You just have to care.
| 1 | 4,702 | 6.851852 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq124d
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idq6mss
| 1,656,186,166 | 1,656,188,772 | 70 | 107 |
Every person has an opinion on the economy. Most are idiotic.
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That all forms of instruction are political. You can hide it better in STEM, but to think there are not political, ethical, and moral implications of what you do is deeply neoliberal - which IS a political ideology.
| 0 | 2,606 | 1.528571 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq6mss
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idq36ah
| 1,656,188,772 | 1,656,187,158 | 107 | 57 |
That all forms of instruction are political. You can hide it better in STEM, but to think there are not political, ethical, and moral implications of what you do is deeply neoliberal - which IS a political ideology.
|
The challenges of measurement. I focus on educational psychology and I am helping one of my university’s STEM organizations develop an assessment for graduate students. They already had a foundational rubric started that they want to build from. Holy crap do I wish they’d brought in help beforehand. This thing is messy and complicated and their original plan for validity evidence skipped so many steps. Assessing learning is hard and making a good measure is even harder. Add in natural measurement error, and it’s a field that people make careers out of. You can’t just jump in and understand it
| 1 | 1,614 | 1.877193 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq6mss
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idq05mt
| 1,656,188,772 | 1,656,185,749 | 107 | 41 |
That all forms of instruction are political. You can hide it better in STEM, but to think there are not political, ethical, and moral implications of what you do is deeply neoliberal - which IS a political ideology.
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That the need to talk with students and mentor them is critical and not some fad from Gen Z that will go away. I'm aware STEM classes have some huge numbers and giving each student one-on-one time isn't always plausible and it isn't in the job description. But, if your school/state has garbage mental health resources then your students are going to lean on you sometimes. I don't have a solution, just know there IS a social aspect to the job. If you're only interested in padding your CV you will soon be seen as an ineffective educator. As student enrollment declines and retention rates drop, administration will look at student reviews closer to improve those numbers.
| 1 | 3,023 | 2.609756 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq6mss
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idq1xgq
| 1,656,188,772 | 1,656,186,571 | 107 | 26 |
That all forms of instruction are political. You can hide it better in STEM, but to think there are not political, ethical, and moral implications of what you do is deeply neoliberal - which IS a political ideology.
|
I am sitting in STEM (CS), but have been working with humanities and social scientists (HSS) most of my academic life —a year or two ago, I was even considering a faculty position in a social sciences department. In fact, I recently a published whitepaper arguing on the need for CS people to talk more with sociologists and political scientists —we do quite well with psychologists, but we could benefit from some social sciences. Having said the above, I would state against the hubris that STEM people, including myself, doing of trying to rediscover *everything* and represent everyhting mathematically. I understand that maths are pretty, verifiable, and so on but trying to trimmed down complex notions such as discrinimation and fairness into a simple computationally-easy formula is nothing else than hubris that ignores decades of HSS work and cultural aspects. Now, if I may be critical back to HSS researchers, it needs to be said: we are not all sun-hating nerds that hate human interactions and have no interests outside our formulas.
| 1 | 2,201 | 4.115385 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idqupqo
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idqhflt
| 1,656,200,342 | 1,656,193,857 | 99 | 97 |
Please teach your students to respect us. I can't tell you how many times I've heard about how my subject is easy nonsense and not worthy of time or effort from a STEM student quoting their professor. (I acknowledge the possibility they're lying about quoting.) But still, please convey the message that gen ed electives aren't just obstacles. And if they get a bad grade, maybe it's because the class required some level of effort and ability. There's a lot of, "well, it's not organic chem, so it must be trivially easy."
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When I mentor undergraduate research, it doesn't contribute much to my own research. I don't get a co-authorship. They don't generate data that I can then use. My time mentoring them is time away from my own research. Likewise, when my students get a publication, it means they came up with the research question, they did all the research, and they wrote it up themselves. I mentor them, but it's their own original, single-author contribution to the scholarship.
| 1 | 6,485 | 1.020619 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idqupqo
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idq124d
| 1,656,200,342 | 1,656,186,166 | 99 | 70 |
Please teach your students to respect us. I can't tell you how many times I've heard about how my subject is easy nonsense and not worthy of time or effort from a STEM student quoting their professor. (I acknowledge the possibility they're lying about quoting.) But still, please convey the message that gen ed electives aren't just obstacles. And if they get a bad grade, maybe it's because the class required some level of effort and ability. There's a lot of, "well, it's not organic chem, so it must be trivially easy."
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Every person has an opinion on the economy. Most are idiotic.
| 1 | 14,176 | 1.414286 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
|
idq36ah
|
idqupqo
| 1,656,187,158 | 1,656,200,342 | 57 | 99 |
The challenges of measurement. I focus on educational psychology and I am helping one of my university’s STEM organizations develop an assessment for graduate students. They already had a foundational rubric started that they want to build from. Holy crap do I wish they’d brought in help beforehand. This thing is messy and complicated and their original plan for validity evidence skipped so many steps. Assessing learning is hard and making a good measure is even harder. Add in natural measurement error, and it’s a field that people make careers out of. You can’t just jump in and understand it
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Please teach your students to respect us. I can't tell you how many times I've heard about how my subject is easy nonsense and not worthy of time or effort from a STEM student quoting their professor. (I acknowledge the possibility they're lying about quoting.) But still, please convey the message that gen ed electives aren't just obstacles. And if they get a bad grade, maybe it's because the class required some level of effort and ability. There's a lot of, "well, it's not organic chem, so it must be trivially easy."
| 0 | 13,184 | 1.736842 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idqigpe
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idqupqo
| 1,656,194,360 | 1,656,200,342 | 51 | 99 |
Some STEM people think they know more about the humanities subject than the humanities scholar. As a musician, I regularly saw STEM people talk over arts scholars with their knowledge of coding. It's impressive that you can code but without critical understanding, it has no use. Example: we wanted to recreate a composition from the early 1990s for piano and computer. The engineer guy said he would recode it but in another language and he did not want to comment the code because he felt it was a waste of time. That way, it effectively became useless for future musicians if they had no access to that engineer. The use of a different programming language also would make it into a completely different work. Only after long discussions, we could convince him to work with the original language (which is still in use) and comment the code. But it was not a fun ride.
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Please teach your students to respect us. I can't tell you how many times I've heard about how my subject is easy nonsense and not worthy of time or effort from a STEM student quoting their professor. (I acknowledge the possibility they're lying about quoting.) But still, please convey the message that gen ed electives aren't just obstacles. And if they get a bad grade, maybe it's because the class required some level of effort and ability. There's a lot of, "well, it's not organic chem, so it must be trivially easy."
| 0 | 5,982 | 1.941176 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq8qc4
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idqupqo
| 1,656,189,742 | 1,656,200,342 | 44 | 99 |
economy and engineering are not the same thing and "supply and demand" is not everything it has about economy. it is not even the only way to think about markets.
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Please teach your students to respect us. I can't tell you how many times I've heard about how my subject is easy nonsense and not worthy of time or effort from a STEM student quoting their professor. (I acknowledge the possibility they're lying about quoting.) But still, please convey the message that gen ed electives aren't just obstacles. And if they get a bad grade, maybe it's because the class required some level of effort and ability. There's a lot of, "well, it's not organic chem, so it must be trivially easy."
| 0 | 10,600 | 2.25 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq05mt
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idqupqo
| 1,656,185,749 | 1,656,200,342 | 41 | 99 |
That the need to talk with students and mentor them is critical and not some fad from Gen Z that will go away. I'm aware STEM classes have some huge numbers and giving each student one-on-one time isn't always plausible and it isn't in the job description. But, if your school/state has garbage mental health resources then your students are going to lean on you sometimes. I don't have a solution, just know there IS a social aspect to the job. If you're only interested in padding your CV you will soon be seen as an ineffective educator. As student enrollment declines and retention rates drop, administration will look at student reviews closer to improve those numbers.
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Please teach your students to respect us. I can't tell you how many times I've heard about how my subject is easy nonsense and not worthy of time or effort from a STEM student quoting their professor. (I acknowledge the possibility they're lying about quoting.) But still, please convey the message that gen ed electives aren't just obstacles. And if they get a bad grade, maybe it's because the class required some level of effort and ability. There's a lot of, "well, it's not organic chem, so it must be trivially easy."
| 0 | 14,593 | 2.414634 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq1xgq
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idqupqo
| 1,656,186,571 | 1,656,200,342 | 26 | 99 |
I am sitting in STEM (CS), but have been working with humanities and social scientists (HSS) most of my academic life —a year or two ago, I was even considering a faculty position in a social sciences department. In fact, I recently a published whitepaper arguing on the need for CS people to talk more with sociologists and political scientists —we do quite well with psychologists, but we could benefit from some social sciences. Having said the above, I would state against the hubris that STEM people, including myself, doing of trying to rediscover *everything* and represent everyhting mathematically. I understand that maths are pretty, verifiable, and so on but trying to trimmed down complex notions such as discrinimation and fairness into a simple computationally-easy formula is nothing else than hubris that ignores decades of HSS work and cultural aspects. Now, if I may be critical back to HSS researchers, it needs to be said: we are not all sun-hating nerds that hate human interactions and have no interests outside our formulas.
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Please teach your students to respect us. I can't tell you how many times I've heard about how my subject is easy nonsense and not worthy of time or effort from a STEM student quoting their professor. (I acknowledge the possibility they're lying about quoting.) But still, please convey the message that gen ed electives aren't just obstacles. And if they get a bad grade, maybe it's because the class required some level of effort and ability. There's a lot of, "well, it's not organic chem, so it must be trivially easy."
| 0 | 13,771 | 3.807692 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idqctyk
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idqupqo
| 1,656,191,667 | 1,656,200,342 | 27 | 99 |
That I cannot continue to shoulder the fight for health and human rights alone. My discipline is public health. I am American. I am a woman. Every time there's a school shooting, or a new pandemic, or fundamental destruction of basic reproductive rights and freedom, society looks to me and my colleagues for a solution. And I don't know what to say anymore. Most days, the problem is not an academic one, it's a political one. We are screaming out answers, and no one is listening. It's exhausting to go to work every day and advance the science in my field, only to have it die at the hands of a corporation or politician. I am exhausted. I am underpaid and undervalued. Some days I can barely keep it together to fulfill my job duties. How am I supposed to find the strength to do the jobs of everyone else that has seemingly abandoned the social contract? Every time there's a social crisis, some admin releases a statement about how *I* can take action. Why does it have to be just me? I'm not a politician. I'm a researcher. I was never prepared for this. If you're in STEM and you turn to your colleagues in social sciences for answers, maybe first stop and ask yourself what you can do. Then actually do it. Donate to an organization. Attend a protest. Vote. Help register others to vote. Canvas during elections. You don't have to be an expert. You just have to care.
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Please teach your students to respect us. I can't tell you how many times I've heard about how my subject is easy nonsense and not worthy of time or effort from a STEM student quoting their professor. (I acknowledge the possibility they're lying about quoting.) But still, please convey the message that gen ed electives aren't just obstacles. And if they get a bad grade, maybe it's because the class required some level of effort and ability. There's a lot of, "well, it's not organic chem, so it must be trivially easy."
| 0 | 8,675 | 3.666667 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idqhflt
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idq124d
| 1,656,193,857 | 1,656,186,166 | 97 | 70 |
When I mentor undergraduate research, it doesn't contribute much to my own research. I don't get a co-authorship. They don't generate data that I can then use. My time mentoring them is time away from my own research. Likewise, when my students get a publication, it means they came up with the research question, they did all the research, and they wrote it up themselves. I mentor them, but it's their own original, single-author contribution to the scholarship.
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Every person has an opinion on the economy. Most are idiotic.
| 1 | 7,691 | 1.385714 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idqhflt
|
idq36ah
| 1,656,193,857 | 1,656,187,158 | 97 | 57 |
When I mentor undergraduate research, it doesn't contribute much to my own research. I don't get a co-authorship. They don't generate data that I can then use. My time mentoring them is time away from my own research. Likewise, when my students get a publication, it means they came up with the research question, they did all the research, and they wrote it up themselves. I mentor them, but it's their own original, single-author contribution to the scholarship.
|
The challenges of measurement. I focus on educational psychology and I am helping one of my university’s STEM organizations develop an assessment for graduate students. They already had a foundational rubric started that they want to build from. Holy crap do I wish they’d brought in help beforehand. This thing is messy and complicated and their original plan for validity evidence skipped so many steps. Assessing learning is hard and making a good measure is even harder. Add in natural measurement error, and it’s a field that people make careers out of. You can’t just jump in and understand it
| 1 | 6,699 | 1.701754 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq8qc4
|
idqhflt
| 1,656,189,742 | 1,656,193,857 | 44 | 97 |
economy and engineering are not the same thing and "supply and demand" is not everything it has about economy. it is not even the only way to think about markets.
|
When I mentor undergraduate research, it doesn't contribute much to my own research. I don't get a co-authorship. They don't generate data that I can then use. My time mentoring them is time away from my own research. Likewise, when my students get a publication, it means they came up with the research question, they did all the research, and they wrote it up themselves. I mentor them, but it's their own original, single-author contribution to the scholarship.
| 0 | 4,115 | 2.204545 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
|
idq05mt
|
idqhflt
| 1,656,185,749 | 1,656,193,857 | 41 | 97 |
That the need to talk with students and mentor them is critical and not some fad from Gen Z that will go away. I'm aware STEM classes have some huge numbers and giving each student one-on-one time isn't always plausible and it isn't in the job description. But, if your school/state has garbage mental health resources then your students are going to lean on you sometimes. I don't have a solution, just know there IS a social aspect to the job. If you're only interested in padding your CV you will soon be seen as an ineffective educator. As student enrollment declines and retention rates drop, administration will look at student reviews closer to improve those numbers.
|
When I mentor undergraduate research, it doesn't contribute much to my own research. I don't get a co-authorship. They don't generate data that I can then use. My time mentoring them is time away from my own research. Likewise, when my students get a publication, it means they came up with the research question, they did all the research, and they wrote it up themselves. I mentor them, but it's their own original, single-author contribution to the scholarship.
| 0 | 8,108 | 2.365854 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
|
idqhflt
|
idq1xgq
| 1,656,193,857 | 1,656,186,571 | 97 | 26 |
When I mentor undergraduate research, it doesn't contribute much to my own research. I don't get a co-authorship. They don't generate data that I can then use. My time mentoring them is time away from my own research. Likewise, when my students get a publication, it means they came up with the research question, they did all the research, and they wrote it up themselves. I mentor them, but it's their own original, single-author contribution to the scholarship.
|
I am sitting in STEM (CS), but have been working with humanities and social scientists (HSS) most of my academic life —a year or two ago, I was even considering a faculty position in a social sciences department. In fact, I recently a published whitepaper arguing on the need for CS people to talk more with sociologists and political scientists —we do quite well with psychologists, but we could benefit from some social sciences. Having said the above, I would state against the hubris that STEM people, including myself, doing of trying to rediscover *everything* and represent everyhting mathematically. I understand that maths are pretty, verifiable, and so on but trying to trimmed down complex notions such as discrinimation and fairness into a simple computationally-easy formula is nothing else than hubris that ignores decades of HSS work and cultural aspects. Now, if I may be critical back to HSS researchers, it needs to be said: we are not all sun-hating nerds that hate human interactions and have no interests outside our formulas.
| 1 | 7,286 | 3.730769 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
|
idqctyk
|
idqhflt
| 1,656,191,667 | 1,656,193,857 | 27 | 97 |
That I cannot continue to shoulder the fight for health and human rights alone. My discipline is public health. I am American. I am a woman. Every time there's a school shooting, or a new pandemic, or fundamental destruction of basic reproductive rights and freedom, society looks to me and my colleagues for a solution. And I don't know what to say anymore. Most days, the problem is not an academic one, it's a political one. We are screaming out answers, and no one is listening. It's exhausting to go to work every day and advance the science in my field, only to have it die at the hands of a corporation or politician. I am exhausted. I am underpaid and undervalued. Some days I can barely keep it together to fulfill my job duties. How am I supposed to find the strength to do the jobs of everyone else that has seemingly abandoned the social contract? Every time there's a social crisis, some admin releases a statement about how *I* can take action. Why does it have to be just me? I'm not a politician. I'm a researcher. I was never prepared for this. If you're in STEM and you turn to your colleagues in social sciences for answers, maybe first stop and ask yourself what you can do. Then actually do it. Donate to an organization. Attend a protest. Vote. Help register others to vote. Canvas during elections. You don't have to be an expert. You just have to care.
|
When I mentor undergraduate research, it doesn't contribute much to my own research. I don't get a co-authorship. They don't generate data that I can then use. My time mentoring them is time away from my own research. Likewise, when my students get a publication, it means they came up with the research question, they did all the research, and they wrote it up themselves. I mentor them, but it's their own original, single-author contribution to the scholarship.
| 0 | 2,190 | 3.592593 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
|
idqymbu
|
idq124d
| 1,656,202,331 | 1,656,186,166 | 76 | 70 |
Whatever the differences, we can all come together making fun of MBAs.
|
Every person has an opinion on the economy. Most are idiotic.
| 1 | 16,165 | 1.085714 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
|
idq36ah
|
idqymbu
| 1,656,187,158 | 1,656,202,331 | 57 | 76 |
The challenges of measurement. I focus on educational psychology and I am helping one of my university’s STEM organizations develop an assessment for graduate students. They already had a foundational rubric started that they want to build from. Holy crap do I wish they’d brought in help beforehand. This thing is messy and complicated and their original plan for validity evidence skipped so many steps. Assessing learning is hard and making a good measure is even harder. Add in natural measurement error, and it’s a field that people make careers out of. You can’t just jump in and understand it
|
Whatever the differences, we can all come together making fun of MBAs.
| 0 | 15,173 | 1.333333 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
|
idqigpe
|
idqymbu
| 1,656,194,360 | 1,656,202,331 | 51 | 76 |
Some STEM people think they know more about the humanities subject than the humanities scholar. As a musician, I regularly saw STEM people talk over arts scholars with their knowledge of coding. It's impressive that you can code but without critical understanding, it has no use. Example: we wanted to recreate a composition from the early 1990s for piano and computer. The engineer guy said he would recode it but in another language and he did not want to comment the code because he felt it was a waste of time. That way, it effectively became useless for future musicians if they had no access to that engineer. The use of a different programming language also would make it into a completely different work. Only after long discussions, we could convince him to work with the original language (which is still in use) and comment the code. But it was not a fun ride.
|
Whatever the differences, we can all come together making fun of MBAs.
| 0 | 7,971 | 1.490196 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
|
idq8qc4
|
idqymbu
| 1,656,189,742 | 1,656,202,331 | 44 | 76 |
economy and engineering are not the same thing and "supply and demand" is not everything it has about economy. it is not even the only way to think about markets.
|
Whatever the differences, we can all come together making fun of MBAs.
| 0 | 12,589 | 1.727273 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
|
idqymbu
|
idq05mt
| 1,656,202,331 | 1,656,185,749 | 76 | 41 |
Whatever the differences, we can all come together making fun of MBAs.
|
That the need to talk with students and mentor them is critical and not some fad from Gen Z that will go away. I'm aware STEM classes have some huge numbers and giving each student one-on-one time isn't always plausible and it isn't in the job description. But, if your school/state has garbage mental health resources then your students are going to lean on you sometimes. I don't have a solution, just know there IS a social aspect to the job. If you're only interested in padding your CV you will soon be seen as an ineffective educator. As student enrollment declines and retention rates drop, administration will look at student reviews closer to improve those numbers.
| 1 | 16,582 | 1.853659 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idqymbu
|
idq1xgq
| 1,656,202,331 | 1,656,186,571 | 76 | 26 |
Whatever the differences, we can all come together making fun of MBAs.
|
I am sitting in STEM (CS), but have been working with humanities and social scientists (HSS) most of my academic life —a year or two ago, I was even considering a faculty position in a social sciences department. In fact, I recently a published whitepaper arguing on the need for CS people to talk more with sociologists and political scientists —we do quite well with psychologists, but we could benefit from some social sciences. Having said the above, I would state against the hubris that STEM people, including myself, doing of trying to rediscover *everything* and represent everyhting mathematically. I understand that maths are pretty, verifiable, and so on but trying to trimmed down complex notions such as discrinimation and fairness into a simple computationally-easy formula is nothing else than hubris that ignores decades of HSS work and cultural aspects. Now, if I may be critical back to HSS researchers, it needs to be said: we are not all sun-hating nerds that hate human interactions and have no interests outside our formulas.
| 1 | 15,760 | 2.923077 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idqctyk
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idqymbu
| 1,656,191,667 | 1,656,202,331 | 27 | 76 |
That I cannot continue to shoulder the fight for health and human rights alone. My discipline is public health. I am American. I am a woman. Every time there's a school shooting, or a new pandemic, or fundamental destruction of basic reproductive rights and freedom, society looks to me and my colleagues for a solution. And I don't know what to say anymore. Most days, the problem is not an academic one, it's a political one. We are screaming out answers, and no one is listening. It's exhausting to go to work every day and advance the science in my field, only to have it die at the hands of a corporation or politician. I am exhausted. I am underpaid and undervalued. Some days I can barely keep it together to fulfill my job duties. How am I supposed to find the strength to do the jobs of everyone else that has seemingly abandoned the social contract? Every time there's a social crisis, some admin releases a statement about how *I* can take action. Why does it have to be just me? I'm not a politician. I'm a researcher. I was never prepared for this. If you're in STEM and you turn to your colleagues in social sciences for answers, maybe first stop and ask yourself what you can do. Then actually do it. Donate to an organization. Attend a protest. Vote. Help register others to vote. Canvas during elections. You don't have to be an expert. You just have to care.
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Whatever the differences, we can all come together making fun of MBAs.
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vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq124d
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idq05mt
| 1,656,186,166 | 1,656,185,749 | 70 | 41 |
Every person has an opinion on the economy. Most are idiotic.
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That the need to talk with students and mentor them is critical and not some fad from Gen Z that will go away. I'm aware STEM classes have some huge numbers and giving each student one-on-one time isn't always plausible and it isn't in the job description. But, if your school/state has garbage mental health resources then your students are going to lean on you sometimes. I don't have a solution, just know there IS a social aspect to the job. If you're only interested in padding your CV you will soon be seen as an ineffective educator. As student enrollment declines and retention rates drop, administration will look at student reviews closer to improve those numbers.
| 1 | 417 | 1.707317 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq05mt
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idq36ah
| 1,656,185,749 | 1,656,187,158 | 41 | 57 |
That the need to talk with students and mentor them is critical and not some fad from Gen Z that will go away. I'm aware STEM classes have some huge numbers and giving each student one-on-one time isn't always plausible and it isn't in the job description. But, if your school/state has garbage mental health resources then your students are going to lean on you sometimes. I don't have a solution, just know there IS a social aspect to the job. If you're only interested in padding your CV you will soon be seen as an ineffective educator. As student enrollment declines and retention rates drop, administration will look at student reviews closer to improve those numbers.
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The challenges of measurement. I focus on educational psychology and I am helping one of my university’s STEM organizations develop an assessment for graduate students. They already had a foundational rubric started that they want to build from. Holy crap do I wish they’d brought in help beforehand. This thing is messy and complicated and their original plan for validity evidence skipped so many steps. Assessing learning is hard and making a good measure is even harder. Add in natural measurement error, and it’s a field that people make careers out of. You can’t just jump in and understand it
| 0 | 1,409 | 1.390244 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq1xgq
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idq36ah
| 1,656,186,571 | 1,656,187,158 | 26 | 57 |
I am sitting in STEM (CS), but have been working with humanities and social scientists (HSS) most of my academic life —a year or two ago, I was even considering a faculty position in a social sciences department. In fact, I recently a published whitepaper arguing on the need for CS people to talk more with sociologists and political scientists —we do quite well with psychologists, but we could benefit from some social sciences. Having said the above, I would state against the hubris that STEM people, including myself, doing of trying to rediscover *everything* and represent everyhting mathematically. I understand that maths are pretty, verifiable, and so on but trying to trimmed down complex notions such as discrinimation and fairness into a simple computationally-easy formula is nothing else than hubris that ignores decades of HSS work and cultural aspects. Now, if I may be critical back to HSS researchers, it needs to be said: we are not all sun-hating nerds that hate human interactions and have no interests outside our formulas.
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The challenges of measurement. I focus on educational psychology and I am helping one of my university’s STEM organizations develop an assessment for graduate students. They already had a foundational rubric started that they want to build from. Holy crap do I wish they’d brought in help beforehand. This thing is messy and complicated and their original plan for validity evidence skipped so many steps. Assessing learning is hard and making a good measure is even harder. Add in natural measurement error, and it’s a field that people make careers out of. You can’t just jump in and understand it
| 0 | 587 | 2.192308 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq8qc4
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idqigpe
| 1,656,189,742 | 1,656,194,360 | 44 | 51 |
economy and engineering are not the same thing and "supply and demand" is not everything it has about economy. it is not even the only way to think about markets.
|
Some STEM people think they know more about the humanities subject than the humanities scholar. As a musician, I regularly saw STEM people talk over arts scholars with their knowledge of coding. It's impressive that you can code but without critical understanding, it has no use. Example: we wanted to recreate a composition from the early 1990s for piano and computer. The engineer guy said he would recode it but in another language and he did not want to comment the code because he felt it was a waste of time. That way, it effectively became useless for future musicians if they had no access to that engineer. The use of a different programming language also would make it into a completely different work. Only after long discussions, we could convince him to work with the original language (which is still in use) and comment the code. But it was not a fun ride.
| 0 | 4,618 | 1.159091 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idqigpe
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idq05mt
| 1,656,194,360 | 1,656,185,749 | 51 | 41 |
Some STEM people think they know more about the humanities subject than the humanities scholar. As a musician, I regularly saw STEM people talk over arts scholars with their knowledge of coding. It's impressive that you can code but without critical understanding, it has no use. Example: we wanted to recreate a composition from the early 1990s for piano and computer. The engineer guy said he would recode it but in another language and he did not want to comment the code because he felt it was a waste of time. That way, it effectively became useless for future musicians if they had no access to that engineer. The use of a different programming language also would make it into a completely different work. Only after long discussions, we could convince him to work with the original language (which is still in use) and comment the code. But it was not a fun ride.
|
That the need to talk with students and mentor them is critical and not some fad from Gen Z that will go away. I'm aware STEM classes have some huge numbers and giving each student one-on-one time isn't always plausible and it isn't in the job description. But, if your school/state has garbage mental health resources then your students are going to lean on you sometimes. I don't have a solution, just know there IS a social aspect to the job. If you're only interested in padding your CV you will soon be seen as an ineffective educator. As student enrollment declines and retention rates drop, administration will look at student reviews closer to improve those numbers.
| 1 | 8,611 | 1.243902 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq1xgq
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idqigpe
| 1,656,186,571 | 1,656,194,360 | 26 | 51 |
I am sitting in STEM (CS), but have been working with humanities and social scientists (HSS) most of my academic life —a year or two ago, I was even considering a faculty position in a social sciences department. In fact, I recently a published whitepaper arguing on the need for CS people to talk more with sociologists and political scientists —we do quite well with psychologists, but we could benefit from some social sciences. Having said the above, I would state against the hubris that STEM people, including myself, doing of trying to rediscover *everything* and represent everyhting mathematically. I understand that maths are pretty, verifiable, and so on but trying to trimmed down complex notions such as discrinimation and fairness into a simple computationally-easy formula is nothing else than hubris that ignores decades of HSS work and cultural aspects. Now, if I may be critical back to HSS researchers, it needs to be said: we are not all sun-hating nerds that hate human interactions and have no interests outside our formulas.
|
Some STEM people think they know more about the humanities subject than the humanities scholar. As a musician, I regularly saw STEM people talk over arts scholars with their knowledge of coding. It's impressive that you can code but without critical understanding, it has no use. Example: we wanted to recreate a composition from the early 1990s for piano and computer. The engineer guy said he would recode it but in another language and he did not want to comment the code because he felt it was a waste of time. That way, it effectively became useless for future musicians if they had no access to that engineer. The use of a different programming language also would make it into a completely different work. Only after long discussions, we could convince him to work with the original language (which is still in use) and comment the code. But it was not a fun ride.
| 0 | 7,789 | 1.961538 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idqctyk
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idqigpe
| 1,656,191,667 | 1,656,194,360 | 27 | 51 |
That I cannot continue to shoulder the fight for health and human rights alone. My discipline is public health. I am American. I am a woman. Every time there's a school shooting, or a new pandemic, or fundamental destruction of basic reproductive rights and freedom, society looks to me and my colleagues for a solution. And I don't know what to say anymore. Most days, the problem is not an academic one, it's a political one. We are screaming out answers, and no one is listening. It's exhausting to go to work every day and advance the science in my field, only to have it die at the hands of a corporation or politician. I am exhausted. I am underpaid and undervalued. Some days I can barely keep it together to fulfill my job duties. How am I supposed to find the strength to do the jobs of everyone else that has seemingly abandoned the social contract? Every time there's a social crisis, some admin releases a statement about how *I* can take action. Why does it have to be just me? I'm not a politician. I'm a researcher. I was never prepared for this. If you're in STEM and you turn to your colleagues in social sciences for answers, maybe first stop and ask yourself what you can do. Then actually do it. Donate to an organization. Attend a protest. Vote. Help register others to vote. Canvas during elections. You don't have to be an expert. You just have to care.
|
Some STEM people think they know more about the humanities subject than the humanities scholar. As a musician, I regularly saw STEM people talk over arts scholars with their knowledge of coding. It's impressive that you can code but without critical understanding, it has no use. Example: we wanted to recreate a composition from the early 1990s for piano and computer. The engineer guy said he would recode it but in another language and he did not want to comment the code because he felt it was a waste of time. That way, it effectively became useless for future musicians if they had no access to that engineer. The use of a different programming language also would make it into a completely different work. Only after long discussions, we could convince him to work with the original language (which is still in use) and comment the code. But it was not a fun ride.
| 0 | 2,693 | 1.888889 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq05mt
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idq8qc4
| 1,656,185,749 | 1,656,189,742 | 41 | 44 |
That the need to talk with students and mentor them is critical and not some fad from Gen Z that will go away. I'm aware STEM classes have some huge numbers and giving each student one-on-one time isn't always plausible and it isn't in the job description. But, if your school/state has garbage mental health resources then your students are going to lean on you sometimes. I don't have a solution, just know there IS a social aspect to the job. If you're only interested in padding your CV you will soon be seen as an ineffective educator. As student enrollment declines and retention rates drop, administration will look at student reviews closer to improve those numbers.
|
economy and engineering are not the same thing and "supply and demand" is not everything it has about economy. it is not even the only way to think about markets.
| 0 | 3,993 | 1.073171 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq1xgq
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idq8qc4
| 1,656,186,571 | 1,656,189,742 | 26 | 44 |
I am sitting in STEM (CS), but have been working with humanities and social scientists (HSS) most of my academic life —a year or two ago, I was even considering a faculty position in a social sciences department. In fact, I recently a published whitepaper arguing on the need for CS people to talk more with sociologists and political scientists —we do quite well with psychologists, but we could benefit from some social sciences. Having said the above, I would state against the hubris that STEM people, including myself, doing of trying to rediscover *everything* and represent everyhting mathematically. I understand that maths are pretty, verifiable, and so on but trying to trimmed down complex notions such as discrinimation and fairness into a simple computationally-easy formula is nothing else than hubris that ignores decades of HSS work and cultural aspects. Now, if I may be critical back to HSS researchers, it needs to be said: we are not all sun-hating nerds that hate human interactions and have no interests outside our formulas.
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economy and engineering are not the same thing and "supply and demand" is not everything it has about economy. it is not even the only way to think about markets.
| 0 | 3,171 | 1.692308 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq1xgq
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idrj6rx
| 1,656,186,571 | 1,656,213,362 | 26 | 28 |
I am sitting in STEM (CS), but have been working with humanities and social scientists (HSS) most of my academic life —a year or two ago, I was even considering a faculty position in a social sciences department. In fact, I recently a published whitepaper arguing on the need for CS people to talk more with sociologists and political scientists —we do quite well with psychologists, but we could benefit from some social sciences. Having said the above, I would state against the hubris that STEM people, including myself, doing of trying to rediscover *everything* and represent everyhting mathematically. I understand that maths are pretty, verifiable, and so on but trying to trimmed down complex notions such as discrinimation and fairness into a simple computationally-easy formula is nothing else than hubris that ignores decades of HSS work and cultural aspects. Now, if I may be critical back to HSS researchers, it needs to be said: we are not all sun-hating nerds that hate human interactions and have no interests outside our formulas.
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That Religious Studies (aka Religion) is not Theology. We don't teach our students how to be religious -- we teach our students how to analyze how religions (and groups of people, both religious and non-religious) have operated in the past, and continue to operate in the present. We employ particular methods and theories in our discipline, and it is important for our students to know the histories of these methods and theories.
| 0 | 26,791 | 1.076923 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idq1xgq
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idqctyk
| 1,656,186,571 | 1,656,191,667 | 26 | 27 |
I am sitting in STEM (CS), but have been working with humanities and social scientists (HSS) most of my academic life —a year or two ago, I was even considering a faculty position in a social sciences department. In fact, I recently a published whitepaper arguing on the need for CS people to talk more with sociologists and political scientists —we do quite well with psychologists, but we could benefit from some social sciences. Having said the above, I would state against the hubris that STEM people, including myself, doing of trying to rediscover *everything* and represent everyhting mathematically. I understand that maths are pretty, verifiable, and so on but trying to trimmed down complex notions such as discrinimation and fairness into a simple computationally-easy formula is nothing else than hubris that ignores decades of HSS work and cultural aspects. Now, if I may be critical back to HSS researchers, it needs to be said: we are not all sun-hating nerds that hate human interactions and have no interests outside our formulas.
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That I cannot continue to shoulder the fight for health and human rights alone. My discipline is public health. I am American. I am a woman. Every time there's a school shooting, or a new pandemic, or fundamental destruction of basic reproductive rights and freedom, society looks to me and my colleagues for a solution. And I don't know what to say anymore. Most days, the problem is not an academic one, it's a political one. We are screaming out answers, and no one is listening. It's exhausting to go to work every day and advance the science in my field, only to have it die at the hands of a corporation or politician. I am exhausted. I am underpaid and undervalued. Some days I can barely keep it together to fulfill my job duties. How am I supposed to find the strength to do the jobs of everyone else that has seemingly abandoned the social contract? Every time there's a social crisis, some admin releases a statement about how *I* can take action. Why does it have to be just me? I'm not a politician. I'm a researcher. I was never prepared for this. If you're in STEM and you turn to your colleagues in social sciences for answers, maybe first stop and ask yourself what you can do. Then actually do it. Donate to an organization. Attend a protest. Vote. Help register others to vote. Canvas during elections. You don't have to be an expert. You just have to care.
| 0 | 5,096 | 1.038462 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idrj6rx
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idqctyk
| 1,656,213,362 | 1,656,191,667 | 28 | 27 |
That Religious Studies (aka Religion) is not Theology. We don't teach our students how to be religious -- we teach our students how to analyze how religions (and groups of people, both religious and non-religious) have operated in the past, and continue to operate in the present. We employ particular methods and theories in our discipline, and it is important for our students to know the histories of these methods and theories.
|
That I cannot continue to shoulder the fight for health and human rights alone. My discipline is public health. I am American. I am a woman. Every time there's a school shooting, or a new pandemic, or fundamental destruction of basic reproductive rights and freedom, society looks to me and my colleagues for a solution. And I don't know what to say anymore. Most days, the problem is not an academic one, it's a political one. We are screaming out answers, and no one is listening. It's exhausting to go to work every day and advance the science in my field, only to have it die at the hands of a corporation or politician. I am exhausted. I am underpaid and undervalued. Some days I can barely keep it together to fulfill my job duties. How am I supposed to find the strength to do the jobs of everyone else that has seemingly abandoned the social contract? Every time there's a social crisis, some admin releases a statement about how *I* can take action. Why does it have to be just me? I'm not a politician. I'm a researcher. I was never prepared for this. If you're in STEM and you turn to your colleagues in social sciences for answers, maybe first stop and ask yourself what you can do. Then actually do it. Donate to an organization. Attend a protest. Vote. Help register others to vote. Canvas during elections. You don't have to be an expert. You just have to care.
| 1 | 21,695 | 1.037037 | ||
vklywh
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askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idr3lfs
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idrj6rx
| 1,656,204,952 | 1,656,213,362 | 25 | 28 |
Many of us enjoy teaching and designing “fun” courses related to our discipline, such as an education course centered around specific genres of children’s books, or a study abroad about vampires, or a German studies course on zombies. (I don’t know if STEM academics do the same, but many of my humanities colleagues enjoy the freedom and creativity involved not just in research, but in teaching, too!)
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That Religious Studies (aka Religion) is not Theology. We don't teach our students how to be religious -- we teach our students how to analyze how religions (and groups of people, both religious and non-religious) have operated in the past, and continue to operate in the present. We employ particular methods and theories in our discipline, and it is important for our students to know the histories of these methods and theories.
| 0 | 8,410 | 1.12 | ||
vklywh
|
askacademia_train
| 0.93 |
What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline?
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idr5b30
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idrj6rx
| 1,656,205,848 | 1,656,213,362 | 25 | 28 |
I have a background in biology and psychology and focus on the philosophies and practices of performance, basically cultural anthropology. So, I’m really fascinated in the crossover and the philosophies of “knowing” as well… You would think that more science folks would be willing to admit to the constraints of “science” itself, but they often aren’t, and they insist that modern Western science as we know it is The Truth, the Whole Truth, and Nothing But the Truth. Meanwhile, I have texts written over two thousand years ago that are discussing in great depth the physiology of emotion in such minute detail (also practices that are not even in text but passed down very methodically over thousands of years) while biology, psychology, and neuroscience are just barely beginning to breach these topics. A laboratory is limited by its own nature and cannot give us this holistic point of view, it took human intuition and a focus on the arts and philosophy to come up with such a comprehensive understanding of the human condition.
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That Religious Studies (aka Religion) is not Theology. We don't teach our students how to be religious -- we teach our students how to analyze how religions (and groups of people, both religious and non-religious) have operated in the past, and continue to operate in the present. We employ particular methods and theories in our discipline, and it is important for our students to know the histories of these methods and theories.
| 0 | 7,514 | 1.12 | ||
jlixda
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me.
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gapakuh
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gap8vyv
| 1,604,155,945 | 1,604,154,906 | 161 | 44 |
I was in the same boat as you, but I actually loved defending my thesis online. There were like 60 people watching the stream, and I had relatives and friends watching that wouldn’t have been able to otherwise. You’ll be able to celebrate with your friends and family in person next year, and you have a job lined up which is awesome. Just be proud of your accomplishment, and make sure you practice your talk beforehand to get used to the format. When I did my presentation, I just got into a nice zone of focusing in on my slides and talk and not worrying about the audience. Anyways, at least in our department, most people end up scuttling off to their meetings and to do work afterwards anyways, and we just have an awkward celebration after.
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I'm sorry that's happened to you, but perspective is critical here. You've completed your PhD. A lot of people are struggling to do that under the circumstances, and have limited access to resources they need, or have legitimate fears about how to pay rent or get groceries. You have a job lined up in a desperately depressed market, where thousands of new graduates saddled with debt have found their prospects dissipated or the positions they were promised gone because funding has evaporated. Although things aren't perfect, and you can't have the party that you were looking forward to, there is a lot of privilege in your post, and you should be pleased that so much *has* worked out for you despite the circumstances. There will be time and opportunity to make up for what you missed out on later.
| 1 | 1,039 | 3.659091 |
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