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40cde09ae800 | AA6AAA8F8407 | and most states have a winner takes all system. sorce federal register most people dont like the electoral collage process most people prefer the derect election insted. and over 60 percent prefer it. and according to a gallup pull in 2000 taken shortly after algore thanks to the electoral collage he won the popular vote but lost the presidensy. sorce federal register a argumant over the outcome of the electoral collage vote has happend in the past. there was one in 2000 but thay dont think it will happen eny time soon. and the only reson the electoral collage votes exseeds is becase of the popular votes. for exampal in 2012 obam receved 61.7 percant of the electoral votes when he only had 51.3 of the populare votes because they based it on a winner takes all vote. sorce federal register the electoral collage vote hast to have a presidential canidet that hast to have no trans-regional appeal. because the canident with only regonal appeals is unlikely to be a sucssesful prasident. and the residents of the other regions are more likly to feel that there votes dont count. sorce federal register the electoral vote helps balens out the biger states votes. like in florida when obama won with 29 electoral votes. but its proven that a biger state gets more atention than a smaller state because it gets more attention from presidential canidets dering campaning. sorce federal register. | Evidence | Ineffective |
fda32ef1b335 | AA6AAA8F8407 | the electoral vote avoids problems in some cases were a canidet dosent get a mager vote. | Claim | Adequate |
41896473c5da | AA6AAA8F8407 | and the reson they have the electoral vote is so wiel the elections are going on a canodet dusent drop out. and thay do this so thay can have a clear winner. sorce fedral register.
| Evidence | Adequate |
137a9cc5ee21 | AA6AAA8F8407 | the elector collage vote is regarded as a non-democratic methido selecting a president. | Counterclaim | Adequate |
8435bf71db46 | AA6AAA8F8407 | and when you are voting for a presidentioal canodent you are actoly voting for a slate of electors. and it is posible that the winner of the elector vote will not win the populer vote. sorce richared a. posner. | Evidence | Adequate |
813afa01da90 | AAA72CBAC7F8 | My name is PROPER_NAME and i am an American Citizen. I already know about The Electoral College and its process. I know it has 538 electors and 270 of the electoral votes are needed to elect president. Along with that, I know that our founding fathers developed it in the constitution and their chosen by the candidate's political party. But i do not know why so much people bash The Electoral College when its a good thing. | Lead | Adequate |
b63b171ad114 | AAA72CBAC7F8 | Based on my research, The Electoral College should stay and should be used everytime in an election for President. | Position | Adequate |
66ffcf786368 | AAA72CBAC7F8 | To Start off, most people think of The Electoral College as a non-democratic method of selecting a president based on Source 3: by Richard A. Posner. Its is a non-democratic method because its the electors who elect the president not the people. | Counterclaim | Adequate |
4a44f0a8565b | AAA72CBAC7F8 | Based on Richard however, "each party selects a slate of electors trusted to vote for the party's nominee and that trust is rarely betrayed". Its possible to win the electoral vote but not the national popular vote. It happened in 2000, with Gore when he was running. | Evidence | Adequate |
d3173cdfe315 | AAA72CBAC7F8 | But that was the first time since 1888.
| Rebuttal | Adequate |
a55ef5950f46 | AAA72CBAC7F8 | There are some flaws of The Electoral College however. According to Source 2: written by Bradford Plumer, voters vote for electors who elect the President not the people. | Counterclaim | Adequate |
f2b47b9a6b4b | AAA72CBAC7F8 | No one really knows the elctors and they cant be seen holding public office. It depends on the state to pick the electors and voters cannot always control whom their electors vote for. In addition, as Bradford said "voters sometimes get confused about the electors and vote for the wrong candidates". These disadvantages may want to make people disapprove of The Electoral College disregarding its advantages. | Evidence | Adequate |
e268bfca3685 | AAA72CBAC7F8 | There are five really good reasons for keeping the Electoral College. Based on Source 3 the first is "certainty of outcome". | Claim | Adequate |
5c83a69c98c0 | AAA72CBAC7F8 | This basically means if the winning candidate's share of the Electoral votes is high most likely his popular votes will be too. | Evidence | Adequate |
956954844aee | AAA72CBAC7F8 | The next reason is that its everyone's president. | Claim | Adequate |
245e2628cd12 | AAA72CBAC7F8 | Like Romney he only focused on benefiting the one region and the Electoral College had no favor in that and as a result he got no gains from them. | Evidence | Ineffective |
b0d9cef89565 | AAA72CBAC7F8 | The third reason is "swing state" like Richard calls it. The "toss up states" are the ones who really decide the election. | Claim | Adequate |
3e30fe85d583 | AAA72CBAC7F8 | Voters in those states pay more attention to the campaign since they are the ones who will decide the outcome. | Evidence | Adequate |
222a84397e2e | AAA72CBAC7F8 | The last two reasons are the big states and avoiding run-off elections. | Claim | Adequate |
72c160230826 | AAA72CBAC7F8 | A large state gets more attention from Presidential candidates in a campaign then a small state does. | Evidence | Ineffective |
71bb07eae9d4 | AAA72CBAC7F8 | The Electoral College avoids the problem of elections in which no candiates receives a majority of the votes cast. | Evidence | Adequate |
6be855cbe9ca | AAA72CBAC7F8 | These five reasons make the electoral College what it is now. Most voters dont watch the Presidential campaign's and chose whoever. The Electoral College is fulled with educated people who actually take the time and watch and study the campaign's so their vote is the vote that makes a difference. Despite the Electoral College's lack of democratic pedigree its still should stay. | Concluding Statement | Adequate |
8a53b05c7ce7 | AAA9670F8168 | This letter is concerning your considerations of implementing the policy of requiring school sports players to maintain a B average (3.0 GPA) in order to play their respective sport. | Lead | Adequate |
346b77856bff | AAA9670F8168 | For some students, this policy is outrageous and should be thrown out of consideration, for others such as myself, we believe that it is fully justified and would help drive students to achieve higher grades so that they may continue to participate in their sport. | Position | Effective |
97047390637b | AAA9670F8168 | To allow students to perform poorly and still play sports in the school is, in my opinion, rewarding unacceptable work. | Claim | Effective |
9eb6c4d504fb | AAA9670F8168 | Education should always come before sports, and if one can get by with C's or D's and continue to participate in Football or whatever else pleases them, then they won't be driven to complete their work with an effort, because they don't need to achieve in academics to achieve in their sport. Education is number one, then comes Football, or Soccer, or Baseball, or Track, and the leniency with academic performance doesn't support that basic fact. | Evidence | Effective |
4ca26b695bde | AAA9670F8168 | If a B average is the minimum for participation, then it may inspire students (who would otherwise just float by) to do their work, do it well, and bring home a nice progress report every few weeks. | Claim | Effective |
da6d0af3ecd4 | AAA9670F8168 | Isn't the goal of every school to inspire their students and bring them to a successful life? If the minimum became a 3.0 GPA, then students would strive to become better in school so that they may play their favorite sport(s). It would be a win/win situation: fantastic grades and a wonderful experience in their after-school sport. | Evidence | Adequate |
f7391e3706a8 | AAA9670F8168 | I hope that you take this letter into your consideration, and I hope you decide well on this policy. Some may disagree, some may downright despise the policy, but in the end, it does everyone a favor, and that's hard to argue with from a logical standpoint. In the end, it's the simple fact that education comes before all else, because it's more likely that one would become a doctor, a lawyer, or an engineer than a professional sports player, and allowing the minimum work to pass won't help the student later on in life. | Concluding Statement | Effective |
b3a713bd4ec6 | AABDFA8D20B1 | More companies are pouring in more and more money trying to make the perfect driveless cars but pursuing the driveless car is a negative thing for car manufacturing should not be pursued. | Lead | Effective |
da66bec89aa3 | AABDFA8D20B1 | Developing driveless cars could make driving easier but is a neagtive thing | Position | Adequate |
c910acf4fb45 | AABDFA8D20B1 | there is a big safety concern | Claim | Adequate |
5587f5efa21f | AABDFA8D20B1 | it can make driving boring | Claim | Adequate |
4dc6b21c210d | AABDFA8D20B1 | it still requires the assitance of the driver. | Claim | Effective |
b7f3262f539d | AABDFA8D20B1 | Driveless cars have huge and complicated safety risk. | Claim | Effective |
65fe62661e25 | AABDFA8D20B1 | Driveless cars are not perfectly save and can cause major problems when driving in places with construction or complicated traffics or complicated driving routes and if the driver does not take control of the car, the driver and the passengers in the cars and other people can get seriously injured. Driveless cars are so doubted for their safety that certain states have limited the use or banned them from being driven or tested in their state roads, a few states who have done this is Calforina, Nevada, Florida, and the District of Columbia. Driveless cars who notify people when to take over if the emergency are still not that safe as they have no effective to notify the driver that he should take over, many companies have tried different techniques but none of them have found an effective way to get the drivers attention in case the drivers needs to take over because the car cant handle the roads or sencario it is in. Without an effective way to get the drivers attention, to take over if the time is needed, the car can have an major accident because the driver attention was caught to take over the car and the car couldn't handle the situation, leading to an accident. Even with accidents the problems do not end their, many people and car manducatures and companies do not know if you blame the driver or the manfucaturing. With this not settled out, you getting in an accident because techonolgy an compnay has put in a car was incapable of handling safe driving could make you be blamed for the accident and making you pay alot of money to fix your car and damages while the company who put this faulty techonolgy in the car, walk away with no problems. | Evidence | Effective |
13a1fcab1602 | AABDFA8D20B1 | Driveless cars are dangerous and can be hazardous to the driver and the people around the driver and also leave you to deal with the consequences of an accident. | Claim | Effective |
d7a6a053ffd4 | AABDFA8D20B1 | Driveless may seem cool at first, being able to drive all by thereself and not needing the help of any real person but what does that do to the driver. With driveless cars it makes driving cars for the driver boring. | Claim | Effective |
862ca510bacd | AABDFA8D20B1 | Driving without driveless cars was a joy and something people love to do but with driveless cars it ruins the experinece as you do not get to control the car anymore and just have to watch it drive itself. This has been a big problem for car companies as they have to get people to buy their car and enjoy the ride and the car and companies do not know how to do that. Werner Huber who is the BMW project manger said that with cars being able to drive by themselves they have to find new ways to attract and make the costumers enjoy the car and they can not find a way to do that without putting the driver adn the passengers at risk. The only things they have founded to make the car enjoyable to drive with driveless cars is entrainment systems or texting but all these may be enjoyable to the driver but also puts the driver at risk. | Evidence | Effective |
a72e512ae12c | AABDFA8D20B1 | Driveless cars are cars that are suppose to be able to drive by themselves with nobodies assitance but that is not true. These so called driveless cars are not driveless car but are cars that can do basic functions of driving but when anything hard pops up, the driver has to drive the driveless car. | Claim | Effective |
6d204f14208c | AABDFA8D20B1 | This is a real problem becasue having a driveless car should mean that the car should be able to drive without the help of the driver but they can not and make the driver just sit there in the driver seat, staring out the window waiting and getting bored, so they can drive the driveless car when it is in a hard driving condition and if they do not do that they are in risk of a harazardous accident. One of the most technonlgical advances car made by BMW, is a driveless car and is suppose to be driveless car but is it really, the car can only handles speeds up to 25 miles per hour and any faster and the driver has to take over and even when the car is driving itself the driver needs to keep his or her hands on the steering wheel. These self proclaimed driveless cars may look like driveless car but they are not, they require as much assiatant from a real person as non-driveless cars do.
| Evidence | Effective |
f06ada902dde | AABDFA8D20B1 | Companies all over the world are spending money to make the best driveless car out there but is it really worth it. Driveless cars are not a positive aspect to the automotive industry but is a negative aspect of the industry. These so called driveless cars need the assistance of real life human drivers as much or even sometimes more then regular non-driveless cars, these driveless car also are extremely boring to drive and ride for the driver adn companies can't find a way to fix it, and last but not least these driveless cars are hazardous. These cars can cause accidents, can not deal with hard driving, and can leave you with the consequnces of a horrible accident. Driveless cars might sound amazing and awesome part of the future but it is an negative aspect of the automotive industry and letting that negative aspect get s foothold in the future will be disatorous. | Concluding Statement | Effective |
3965eb2e5b6e | AAFC3D84F9A1 | Electoral College? Are you serious? Why is the election set up like this? I though it was a free country. But no. You guys practically vote on your own. You just make it look like you guys care, taking advice from the people in the states, but it's really just your decision. I want to choose freely, not think I am choosing freely. The President is a person who takes action in the country and we the people, want to choose the right one. You guys even show it sometimes. In the state, we might have a majority pick for one president, but you end up picking another one instead. | Lead | Adequate |
0fa8839611ba | AAFC3D84F9A1 | I understand that the Electoral College represents us by the number of people in the state, but there's one problem, you're not representing us well. | Evidence | Adequate |
6c462cded36a | AAFC3D84F9A1 | I think that the United States shouldn't have the Electoral College and should just have a president win by the most votes. This is truly the best way to choose a president. I seriously don't like the idea about Electoral College and I think that the U.S should change that. | Position | Adequate |
52be9d1a522e | AAFC3D84F9A1 | many people out there, in the U.S, feel the same way as I about the Electoral College. Many of us feel like we are worthless, like we don't matter | Claim | Ineffective |
00778ffe9c74 | AAFC3D84F9A1 | If we can't choose our own president to make decisions, how can we trust this country and stay happy, people may leave, have protests, very bad things can happen. | Evidence | Adequate |
f0cf5d0b36bc | AAFC3D84F9A1 | it isn't the best way to do it. I just want you to think of the lie you don't want to tell but you are telling. | Concluding Statement | Ineffective |
b8a5a7b1f8d3 | AB127AC65E33 | I think students should not perform community service | Position | Adequate |
d115eeb22a9b | AB127AC65E33 | it would seem like they were getting punished for something they didn't do. | Claim | Adequate |
bf86d92233ae | AB127AC65E33 | Doing community service would take too much time from doing school work students rely need. | Claim | Adequate |
5030480f468b | AB127AC65E33 | If students decide to clean up the community then they should be able to do it | Claim | Adequate |
ae2de5a19584 | AB127AC65E33 | If a student were to do something to brake the rules then they should be sentenced community service as a punishment depending on there crime. for example if a student were to start a fight the student should do a number amount of hours doing community servis. | Evidence | Adequate |
d940707a288b | AB127AC65E33 | The students that chose to clean their community should be provided the tools to do the job because they don't have to do anything and some kids cant afford to do so. for example if a student needs a tool the city should provide it | Evidence | Adequate |
747d43804b7f | AB127AC65E33 | I think if the student wont to do it then they should do it and get offered to get paid for it because nobody would wont to give up their free time for free. | Evidence | Ineffective |
b8511e0e4be3 | AB1C30F7B3FA | Imagine a point in time in the future where there could be driverless and flying cars. People have always for a long time thought that this could maybe never be possible. Google cofounder Sergey Brin begs to differ. He believes that their may be a start towards driverless cars.
Sergey Brin imagines a future where numerous amounts of driverless car could form a public-transport taxi system. He believes that this could one day become a reality. Driverless car production should still continue over the next several years. Although driverless cars have drove over 500 miles without crashing, there are still setbacks. Driverless car would still have to alert the driver while backing out of driveways and navigating themselves through road issues such at construction zones and accidents with other drivers. Driverless car so far can drive, turn, and brake, but there are still somethings that the driver would still have to do.
Although the production of driverless cars is still just underway, there is still much more to be done. In the future, driverless cars may be available to everyone someday. There is still a long way to go, but we are getting closer to achieving this everyday. | Evidence | Ineffective |
b1c086a54622 | AB3622039528 | Im writing this letter because I think that keeping the Electoral Collage is unfair to the citizens of the united staes and the candidates running for president. I think that keeping the Electoral Collage is unfair for many reasons. When i read this passage it gave me a claim, to get rid of the Electoral Collage, and it gave me the counter claim, to keep the Electoral Collage. Both the claim and counterclaim gave facts to show what they thought was right, but as i read this passage i thought that | Lead | Adequate |
1160b4fcf536 | AB3622039528 | we shouldnt keep the Electoral Collage. | Position | Adequate |
12e2e9e3f4be | AB3622039528 | The main reason i think we should not keep the Electoral Collage is because its unfair. | Claim | Adequate |
641c2c7a03e5 | AB3622039528 | For example when citizens of the united states go to vote on election day every four years and they vote for who they would do the best job at making choices for our country. Their vote doesnt go to the candidates it goes to the Electoral Collage. I think that is unfair because its atcually them who get to pick the president of the united states not the citizens. That is also unfair for the candiates becuase they spend alot of time and money to get people to vote for them and when the people vote for them it doesnt really count because the Electoral Collage atcually picks who is and is not president. | Evidence | Adequate |
1b498ae9a9bc | AB3622039528 | I also dont like the winner take all method of voting. When that happens its like the other peoples vote never counted. | Claim | Adequate |
0fd5aa9407f1 | AB3622039528 | When the winner take all method happens voters in toss up states are more likely to pay attention to the campaign. They receive the most information and attention from the candidates. Even if they go all out when its time to start voting that doesnt mean that they should be able to decide the election. Everyone elses vote matters too. | Evidence | Adequate |
e827122c9cdb | AB3622039528 | Some People think that the Electoral Collage should stay because they think that the Electoral Collage is a process not a palce. | Counterclaim | Ineffective |
451840542c9f | AB3622039528 | The passage says "The Electoral Collage process consists of the selection of the electors, the meeting of the electors where they vote for President and Vice President, and the counting of the electoral votes by congress." That just pretty much showed us how they Electoral Collage system worked. | Evidence | Ineffective |
f38b5bfbe0dc | AB3622039528 | Even though most people think that the system should stay I think it should go. It should go for many reason. The main reason that I think it should go is because its not fair. | Concluding Statement | Adequate |
bab394ef92e7 | AB59B37ACAED | i argue in favor of keeping the electoral votes alive to choose for the new turn | Position | Adequate |
6f49f6828cf5 | AB59B37ACAED | people say that the electoral voting system may turn alot of potential voters away from voting for a new president since the electoral voting has been tight on alot of people who don't like to use that way then they want it as a direct election and to abolish the electoral college! | Counterclaim | Adequate |
3095cd7be117 | AB59B37ACAED | There are alot of ways we can actually save the eletoral voting system | Claim | Adequate |
4c0ca75f5817 | AB59B37ACAED | the electoral voting consists of a very non-democratic way so all the voters can decide on a canindate for whoever receives the most highest votes on,in 2000 gore had way more votes than bush but fewer electoral votes on him andthat was since they first ever voting for the presidents back in around 1888 thats a very long time almost 200 years when that happened | Evidence | Ineffective |
0831335d072d | AB59B37ACAED | basically we need to keep the electoral voting for some practical reasons thta we do not know about now maybe it could be from thedispute over recent years of voting .
or we can choose a different option then electoral voting maybe instead of the canindates to get voted by a party we should just vote on a popular vote that we should rely on next time it comes around | Concluding Statement | Ineffective |
5aed60c1765f | AB5D516FC4C3 | I think people with a b average should be able to play sports because there grade is a little above average | Lead | Ineffective |
9e13d5bbc5d6 | AB5D516FC4C3 | I think people with a c average should be able to play sports just like people who have a b. | Position | Adequate |
00eb04c24f42 | AB5D516FC4C3 | People with a b average should be able to play sports because they do they school work, they do there homework, and they keep there grades up. People with a c average should be able to play they do there work but they can do better to improve there work. Students who have a c or above average should play sports. The students with a b average can help kids keep there grade so the other kids can play sport too. | Evidence | Adequate |
48afa198a345 | AB5D516FC4C3 | I think people who have a c or a b average can play sports the work hard to keep up there grades so they can help the team win. | Claim | Adequate |
230e4ea36719 | AB5D516FC4C3 | If I change the policy it would be people with a c or above average can play sports but students who have a d or below can't play. The students with a d or below can not play because they do not work hard to keep there grades up. The students that have a d or below think they can play sports, but do not have to do the work | Evidence | Adequate |
bac81f0c13ef | AB5D516FC4C3 | The students with c or above should be able to play sports because they work hard everyday to keep there grade up. | Claim | Adequate |
dfaaac8c3d08 | AB5D516FC4C3 | if I was the principal I would change the policy to where kid who want to learn and like coming to school should be able to play sports. The kid who want be a student before and athletic should play. The students with d or below should try to focus more on school work than thinking about playing sports. The students who don't try really don't care they just want to play sports because they are good at it and they care about there grades. These are the reason why student with c or above should play sports and people with d or below should not be able | Concluding Statement | Adequate |
614ca181efda | AB5D77D7E5A1 | I wish to address you on how you are considering making community service a requirement for students. First off I'd like to express my feelings on community service then I would like to go on to talk about whether making it required would be a good idea or not.
| Lead | Adequate |
0b4884f021de | AB5D77D7E5A1 | Community service is a great opportunity to help others. | Position | Effective |
60edb9b66bc8 | AB5D77D7E5A1 | It not only helps and brings happiness to others but in ways you'll find that doing community service can help you too. | Claim | Effective |
cb7db74ad71b | AB5D77D7E5A1 | Many people do it so willingly because of the good feelings they get from knowing that they're making a difference and benefiting someone else without them having someone to pay them to do it. | Evidence | Effective |
1637c3cd4419 | AB5D77D7E5A1 | It also helps people greater understand charity and service to others of which the feelings you get from doing these things come no other way. | Claim | Effective |
927aa94ad7f9 | AB5D77D7E5A1 | In the end most people feel accomplished and they are sometimes helped just as much as the people they were helping. They volunteer most of the time not for money but for reasons like what i just talked about. | Evidence | Effective |
5354ffcefcd8 | AB5D77D7E5A1 | Though great experiences and feelings can come from doing community service bad ones can too. | Counterclaim | Adequate |
0b77f47c7630 | AB5D77D7E5A1 | When forced to do something a persons natural reaction is to strike out against or oppose it. The students might start to feel this way such as convicts who are assigned community service by the state do. If this happens the service will be done poorly with little effort and the feelings that are supposed to come from it will be pushed away. | Evidence | Effective |
d7df956a2957 | AB5D77D7E5A1 | So if you can't force them to do it then how can you get them to do community service?
Encouragement is the answer. | Rebuttal | Adequate |
9b960fdb11bc | AB5D77D7E5A1 | By helping and asking politely and advertising community service there will be a far better chance that students will do it, but more importantly they will want to do it. Get the students excited about it and they'll do it and be able to freely experience the great blessings community service has to offer for both sides. | Evidence | Effective |
bcfa2a0a919a | AB5D77D7E5A1 | Yes you will have a lot less people that end up doing it, but the people that do will be excited, motivated and ready to make a difference in the world one community at a time.
| Concluding Statement | Effective |
33cde84e03d6 | AB741655902E | i belive we should trash the electoral college and do popular votes. | Position | Adequate |
886e5022632a | AB741655902E | this way it is simiple and easyer to control. | Claim | Ineffective |
282fb4307549 | AB741655902E | people may think they are voting for president when there not (even know they shouod be).we are really voting for electors. i dont see where it is right that thoses electors have to fight for are vote. we should be able to put in are balliets and that be it, not worry weather the electors had a good agument and won the fight. | Evidence | Ineffective |
ead6eeefea70 | AB741655902E | the electors dont always vote for who that state wants. | Claim | Adequate |
cccce4ff59f9 | AB741655902E | when some people go to vote the are confused on the electores and vote the wrong candidate. the electors dont alawys vote for who we want sometimes they put that voite aside and vote for whom ever they wish. in all realaity we dont need them all they do is cause a mess in the prosses. | Evidence | Adequate |
35eda0713f9d | AB741655902E | so i belive that we shuld stop the electoral college and do direct voit insted. | Concluding Statement | Adequate |
187d0f1da463 | AB8BE95ADDD7 | Having the election by popular vote has benifited our community in various ways | Position | Adequate |
4c06fa522cd2 | AB8BE95ADDD7 | such as, Being able to compare the presidents information and how He or She will help our society and represent us, | Claim | Ineffective |
5d45d4ea84e1 | AB8BE95ADDD7 | It also can allow presidents to feel as if they have a equal chance of winning votes, | Claim | Ineffective |
b93a7a21217a | AB8BE95ADDD7 | Having election by popular votes for the presidents can make our community's can help people get together and talk about which president is better or which on they think has more potential helping out the society | Evidence | Ineffective |
4a2c643eefbc | AB8BE95ADDD7 | The electoral college is a way to get votes from people that favor the president or has different belifes and different changes in the next president. Having popular vote for president is a cool way to discover how other people want their society. Most people dont think having popular vote as president is a good idea because they wanna see what will happen or who will become president without there vote being out. | Evidence | Ineffective |
12a4784789fd | AB8BE95ADDD7 | most presidents prefer voting elections because they feel equal and want to have same rights. If most people were in positions like the president they would want to have popular vote because they wouldnt want someine that isnt better then them winning election. | Evidence | Ineffective |
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