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617da13a638d | F1A43B355944 | Maybe it's best if they were to decide on the president but I'm also saying that we should have some say in it. | Claim | Adequate |
66550af72791 | F1A43B355944 | We're the ones living here we all have a right too. It doesn't matter if we make poor decisions we're only human that's what we do, that doesn't mean we shouldn't have a say in it | Claim | Ineffective |
fa49554e6839 | F1A43B355944 | "The Electoral College is unfair, outdated, and irrational." (Bradford Plumer) Sure the Electoral College doesn't normally decide on what we have to say but they should take it in consideration. | Evidence | Ineffective |
c05a82c2a1e9 | F1A43B355944 | I think that we should keep the Electoral College and let the proffessionals do what they do best. As the people living with what the president has to say I still think it's highly important that we have some say on who the president is. | Concluding Statement | Adequate |
8ea95624ffa3 | F1B4E351225D | The question was should we keep the Electoral college or we should stick to voting for president. | Lead | Adequate |
44a23e87a488 | F1B4E351225D | I'm with we should just stay voting for president. | Position | Ineffective |
155b7c5a2b18 | F1B4E351225D | The reason i say that is because the Electoral college is that we should vote for the voters. But then they could be bad to choose. We all should have a say in voting. we shouldn't vote for the voters. We should vote for the president. As said in these passage i'm reading, it's says that (
under the Electoral college system vote not president, but for a slate of electors, who turn in elect the president.) | Evidence | Ineffective |
7f3ce0262182 | F1B4E351225D | I think we should do both, but the question is should we do Electoral college or we should stick to voting. Well we should stick to voting. | Concluding Statement | Ineffective |
0879e2307d38 | F1C996710DA7 | Many people argue over the fact that the Electoral College is benefitial or not. | Lead | Adequate |
68a7ed543268 | F1C996710DA7 | I'm writing this letter to you Mr. Senator to explain the good and bad effects the Electoral College has. | Position | Ineffective |
15b206fc80e2 | F1C996710DA7 | The Electoral College is a process, it is a compromise between the election of the President by a vote in Congress and election of the President by a popular vote of qualified citizens | Evidence | Adequate |
69061a7472a1 | F1C996710DA7 | The Electoral College keeps the elections balanced, | Claim | Adequate |
810f8f0cf2c5 | F1C996710DA7 | it keeps the elections organized | Claim | Adequate |
ee466f708031 | F1C996710DA7 | It may have some bad effects | Counterclaim | Adequate |
e2366112fe82 | F1C996710DA7 | For example, many argue that the people's votes aren't what choose the president. | Evidence | Adequate |
094c4654fecf | F1C996710DA7 | "It avoids the problem of elections in which no candidate receives a majority of vote cast." as stated in the article by Richard Posner. It balances the votes by a larger state compared to a smaller state. In article "In Defense of the Electoral College: Five reasons to kep our despised method of choosing the President", the author states that a larger state has more popular votes rather than a small state. The author says this, "The popular vote was very close in Florida [in 2012]; nevertheless Obama, who won that vote, got 29 electoral votes. A victory by the same margin in Wyoming would net the winner only 3 electoral votes." As that being said, the author is explaining how larger states get more attention from a presidential candidates in a campain than a small state does. This is when the Electoral College restores some of the weight in the political balance that large states lose by virtue of the mal-apportionment. | Evidence | Effective |
fced98196da9 | F1C996710DA7 | As said in the article, "What Is The Electoral College?", "The Electoral College process consists of the selection of the electors, the meeting of the electors where they vote for President and Vice President, and the counting of the electoral votes by Congress." That is a huge amount of work but that is what keeps the elections well organized. Each candidate running for President in a state has their own group of electors. After each election, the governor of your state prepares a certificate presenting all of the candidates that ran for your state. As stated in the article by the Office of the Federal Register, "The Certificate of Ascertainment also declares the winning presidential candidate in your state and shows which electors will represent your state at the meeting of the electors in December of the election year." The Electoral College is what mantains everything professional. | Evidence | Effective |
6d0347d3dced | F1C996710DA7 | For example, many people believe their vote goes to waste. As stated in the article by Richard Posner, "Democrats in Texas, for example, or Republicans in California. Knowing their vote will have no effect, they have less incentive to pay attention to the campaign they would have if the president were picked by popular vote." Voters want to feel involved and have interest in the political system. People also fear the tie in an electoral vote. They feel like the government will choose whoever will benefit them the best and they won't take the people into consideration. In article, "The Indensible Electoral College: Why even the best laid defenses of the system are wrong", the author says the electoral college is unfair, outdated, and irrational. He believes it's anachronism. | Evidence | Effective |
0c0ee4fe4140 | F1C996710DA7 | People may have different opinions about Electoral College. People have different opinions about everything. I wanted to explain how the Electoral College benefits our society and how it doesn't. It keeps the elections balanced, organized, but it makes others feel like their vote isn't worthy or valuable. | Concluding Statement | Adequate |
698cb4e1ac63 | F1C9FEFF073B | When hearing about the Electoral College, most people think of a group of individuals casting votes based on the popularity of the candidate in their state. What they don't know is that "the Electoral College is a process, not a place"(source 1) Some people, like Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, and Bob Dole, have all thought that the Electoral College should be abolished and be replaced by the popular vote. According to a poll taken in 2000, 60 percent of voters believe the precidency should be decided on the popular vote (source 2). | Lead | Effective |
36e27ac7a953 | F1C9FEFF073B | After thoroughly researching, the Electoral College should be replaced by the popular vote. | Position | Effective |
332588722313 | F1C9FEFF073B | The current system of electing isn't exactly democratic | Claim | Effective |
1647da76fbbc | F1C9FEFF073B | there is a chance for there to be a tie in the votes. | Claim | Effective |
f95ae1283367 | F1C9FEFF073B | Most states have a "winner-takes-all" system (with the exception ofMaine and Nebraska) that awards all electors to the winning presidential candidate in their state.(source 1) There may be an arguement that no state has enough votes to give the presidency to someone; however, this system basically casts away the other votes of those on the side of the opposing candidate, making it undemocratic. Besides that, there is also the chance that a few of the electors go rouge and vote for the opposing candidate. | Evidence | Effective |
a86ed38d39da | F1C9FEFF073B | To be a democracy means to listen to the voice of the people; however, the college may not always listen. | Claim | Effective |
90d51385e303 | F1C9FEFF073B | The electoral College consists of 538 electors, meaning that the possibility of there being a tie is likely. | Claim | Effective |
c746ae7845c2 | F1C9FEFF073B | When there is a tie, the fate of the potential presidents lie in the House of Representatives. When the election results are in the hands of the House, the selection can hardly be expected to reflect the will of the people. It will be more likely that they will vote for the candidate in their party rather than listen to the people's vote. Not only does it ignore the rights of the people, but this gives an unfair advantage to the candidate who's party is currently in power.
| Evidence | Effective |
2fb4308f420c | F1C9FEFF073B | In conclusion, the Electoral College is a "non-democratic method of selecting a president..." (source 3). Instead the choice of presidency should be at the will of the people, not in the hands of electors. In the words of Plumer, the elctoral college is unfair, outdated, and irrational. | Concluding Statement | Adequate |
0b4d201e63c4 | F1CE49620429 | The Electoral College should not be the deciding vote for the president of the United States of America. Every popular vote of the people should be counted towards deciding the next president. | Position | Adequate |
54ee6abe3127 | F1CE49620429 | If America is a democracy and in a democracy people pick the leader then every citizen's vote should count, not just the majority.
| Claim | Adequate |
064b651f284f | F1CE49620429 | First things first, only a few states have taken action towards my claim. Those being Maine and Nebraska. These states have made a "proportional representation", which is unlike the "winner take all" that the other 48 states have adopted. The text states "Most states have a winner take all method system that awards all electors to the winning presidential candidate" (What Is the Electoral College | Evidence | Adequate |
7d633cb74f7a | F1CE49620429 | This portrays that with the "winner take all" method various amounts of U.S. citizen votes have gone unaccounted for. | Claim | Adequate |
7f9846041224 | F1CE49620429 | Multiple occasions have dimmed the surface of our elections where their voices aren't heard | Claim | Ineffective |
2c4a696e1011 | F1CE49620429 | The author says "faithless electors have occasionally refused to vote for their party's candidate and cast a deciding vote for whomever they please" (Plumer 11). Going into this further, that means that one person can disagree with hundreds of people's votes for his own vote of the opposite party. Also, if a tie was to occur int the total electoral votes then the outcome would be put into the hands of the House of Representitives. If the people were to vote in the first place this occurance would have never came close. | Evidence | Effective |
37053dff55e6 | F1CE49620429 | On the other hand, it is much harder to calculate the total number of the popular vote being that there are millions of people voting. It is much easier to count and not dispute over a hundred or so votes than a million. | Counterclaim | Effective |
903a9b421e5b | F1CE49620429 | But, having people know that their vote doesn't make it to actually voting for the president makes them not as ethuisiastic about voting. | Rebuttal | Adequate |
e68e1cf1a089 | F1CE49620429 | The text says "no voter's vote swings an election"(Posner 23). This explains why only about one half of eligible American voters voted. | Evidence | Adequate |
a61226016615 | F1CE49620429 | In conclusion, America is a democracy, which means people elect the president, not a elector but the people. The author states "The electoral college is unfair, outdated, and irrational." (Plumer 14). This further explains that electors cannot make decisions without being biased toward their party. Also portraying well, the feelings of many Americans who feel the same way. | Concluding Statement | Adequate |
2bb730e68439 | F20C7101F09D | In the three stories, What is the electoral college?, The Indefensible Electoral College, and the Defense of Electoral College, each argue wether or not to keep or over throw the electoral Colloge. | Lead | Adequate |
97cfbec8efa8 | F20C7101F09D | The Electoral college has been a crutial part of voting who stays or leaves the offic chair of america, But one thing for sure losing this way of voting is very questionable. | Position | Adequate |
c245cb38f732 | F20C7101F09D | In the story, In defense of Electoral college, it eplains five very detailed reasons to keep the electoral college. The certainty of the outcome of this voting system has been accepted for years. | Claim | Adequate |
6096ccb3846d | F20C7101F09D | Richard A. Posner explains, "The reason is that the winning candidate's share of the Electoral College invariably exeeds his share of popular vote."This quote given to us shows the certain possibility of who wins the share of the presidents seat. Each vote by the citizens of America is sent to chose the "qualified citizens" to represent their state in th election for president. | Evidence | Adequate |
ffcb0627cf1e | F20C7101F09D | The person in the election for president also has to have a appeal to many regions. | Claim | Adequate |
1c8c499608ca | F20C7101F09D | If the candidate is attempting to gain more votes by stayong in the same region he or she will not gain more electoral votes. When a person runs for president is they go into many regions to pursuade more people to vote on that person for president then they will gain more electoral votes. | Evidence | Adequate |
146da8e0dde7 | F20C7101F09D | The system does have a few errors in its existence. When people are voting someone to represent them they might make a mistake on wich candidate thier voting on. If people did have a direct vote for who becomes president then they have their exact opinion on who becomes president, | Counterclaim | Adequate |
e5756f1f3db1 | F20C7101F09D | but the system of voting still stands because most people in America like this way of voting better. | Rebuttal | Ineffective |
473c98979bfd | F20C7101F09D | It would be better to have people representing each state with electoral votes because having every vote from every citizen of america sent to an individual slot for who should be president is overwhelming | Claim | Adequate |
ef7263beb9de | F20C7101F09D | instead, we have a system where each person votes on a candidate to represent their state in the election. | Evidence | Ineffective |
333bad25a298 | F20C7101F09D | To close, Having the Electoral College system to vote is a fantastic way of showing who should be president for America. The Electoral College should stay because of the certainty of who will be next president and avoiding the run-off elections to prevent uncertainty of who will be president. | Concluding Statement | Adequate |
4338f8c2ac77 | F240F0F6861E | I think that kids should be required to do community service and I also think that it depends on what the parents say | Position | Adequate |
a7ac4bb69123 | F240F0F6861E | I agree that kids should have to do community service because it builds character | Claim | Effective |
3d6e9710de15 | F240F0F6861E | being a in these times I know that we are lazier than what kids used to be. A lot of kids just text and are on facebook all day and some don't even do their homework. If kids were to do community service it would give them a good working habit and would help kids survive in the future of this bad economy. | Evidence | Adequate |
7f58773eedad | F240F0F6861E | In the past people helped each other get things done and it wasn't uncommon to see a child walking an old lady across the street. Now kids try to push people out of the way so they can get across the street. | Evidence | Effective |
3ef5bb95a36a | F240F0F6861E | community service will help with is kids learning how to be courteous to their elders and also their piers | Claim | Effective |
bbff449027ad | F240F0F6861E | some kids don't know ow to act in public and be respectful but once community service starts to become a regular thing they will be. It will also help communities grow with each other so that everybody will start to get to know each other and work together. | Evidence | Effective |
7f99684382a9 | F240F0F6861E | I think a good addition to this system would be some type of reward system that would give kids motivation to actually do the community service | Claim | Effective |
386cdcb61a6f | F240F0F6861E | and if they don't do it there should be a punishment like lunch detention or something of that sort. | Evidence | Adequate |
c656062ed420 | F240F0F6861E | I think that what required community service would also help with is self discipline | Claim | Adequate |
c1e351ec571e | F240F0F6861E | It will teach kids how to get things done and done the right way and that will also factor in with school and how kids do on homework or projects and even studying for test which will really prepare them for highschool and college | Evidence | Effective |
3624f1ed4bcd | F240F0F6861E | Well I hope you go along with the community service idea because I think that its really going to help kids a lot. | Concluding Statement | Ineffective |
2c7500824931 | F27691AEE065 | Driverless cars are a interesting subject to speak about, they are said to come in the near future, as stated by Sebastian the founder of the Google Car project, but are they really safe. | Lead | Adequate |
ba748a643d94 | F27691AEE065 | Driverless cars have always been a fascinating idea in televison, but they seem to be dangerous, expensive, and interface with the law. | Position | Effective |
0f38ab58afc4 | F27691AEE065 | Driverless cars are amusing to those who look forward to this new technology, and its unreal and amazing that a car drive it's self, but is it safe? | Claim | Effective |
216bd29e8434 | F27691AEE065 | "Driverless cars" at the time seem to already struggle with the navigation and attention of the driver to prevent accidents from occuring. As stated by the article, " This means the human driver must remain alert and be ready to take over when the situation requires." Driverless cars today aren't all that beneficial and requiredue the attention of drivers, how can we be positive that the new cars said to come will be ready to prevent accidents without the requirence of human attention? Not only do these cars seem to be safeless, but due to all that worl that is said to come and all the new technology, dont they seem expensive and out of reach? | Evidence | Effective |
1435d2ca9a3f | F27691AEE065 | The driverless cars are said to come, but with the technology that will be invested into this project, it seems to be out of reach from those who are interested. | Claim | Effective |
46135512e2a8 | F27691AEE065 | As stated by the article, "...but how much smarter did the cars need to be? For starters, they needed a whloe lot of sensors." This shows that the "driverless cars" today needed a lot of work put into them, and gives a view of how these cars were made and now compared to the soon to come real driverless cars, how much will be invested for someone who is interested. | Evidence | Adequate |
4e86100ee6a3 | F27691AEE065 | Driverless cars amuse the world with the idea that they will soon be here and will require no human at the wheel, but say it doesnt turn out well and the car is invlolved into an accident what will happen? | Claim | Effective |
c5176082ecc0 | F27691AEE065 | Who will be responsible for the occurence that has happened? As stated by the article, " If the technology fails and someone is injured, who is at fault--the driver or the manufacturer?" If all fails, what will the law say and who is to be blamed for? Laws will need to be undated with the upcoming driverless cars, as stated by the article, " ...in order to cover the liability in the case of an accident." Even with laws updated, not every state is allowing the testing of the new cars to come, knowing that they are unsure of the safety of others. | Evidence | Effective |
92b76f0966e7 | F27691AEE065 | the subject of driverless cars has always been a fascinating idea in televison and amuse thos interested and curious, but are they safe and is it also safe to safe they are? What will happen if they fails and cause someone's life? Driverless cars are said to be safe, but are they really? | Concluding Statement | Adequate |
a958611ce012 | F27957F2AC4B | I want you to tell mister president that we should keep the electoral college | Position | Adequate |
975f7dd28955 | F27957F2AC4B | Popular vote is not fair. not everyone is popular in all the states that is why people need the electoral votes so they can get a chance. | Evidence | Ineffective |
0a68cc2974b2 | F27957F2AC4B | In source 2: the indefensible electoral college: why even the besy-laid defenses of the system are wrong states "because of the winner take all system in each state, candidates dont spend time in states they know they have no chance of winning, focusing only on the tight races in the 'swing' states." | Counterclaim | Ineffective |
9f60efeaa6db | F27957F2AC4B | This is telling me that democratic presidents dont go to republican states, like california, because they already know the republican president won them over without really doing much. Now, if it was a swing state, like florida, then both candidates want to fly over to the states and make sure they give a good speech to get as many electoral votes as possible. | Evidence | Ineffective |
c3175a0d52ce | F27957F2AC4B |
In source 3: in defense of the electoral college: five reasons to keep our despised method of choosing a president it states, in reason number 2 "everyones president" | Claim | Adequate |
1ef11d80ef8b | F27957F2AC4B |
, that no region has enough electoral votes to elect a president. If the president knew they would be able to win a region because the region believes in what he chooses, the candidate will not get electoral votes because he knows he will win those states. A candidate with only the regional votes is less likely to become president. If the president tries in the harder regions-regions he might not win or the swing states- he will get more votes.
| Evidence | Adequate |
65976803b8d0 | F27957F2AC4B | In source 3 , it also states, in reason 3 "swing states"
, voters in the swing states are more likely to listen to both candidates than other states that already have who they chose. | Claim | Adequate |
ed3bfcc4b62d | F27957F2AC4B | These swing state voters are going to decide the election fairly. They are also recieving the most attention and information from the candidates, so when one of the candidates become president they know what that candidate is goignt to do for the united states. Large states stes get more attention than small states since they are most likely to get more electoral votes and help the candidates win.
| Evidence | Adequate |
80523c363187 | F27957F2AC4B |
Also the electoral college system makes sure there are no run-off elections | Claim | Adequate |
299f0b0a9c4e | F27957F2AC4B | . Run-off elections are elections where no candidate wins a majority of votes. This leaves leaves pressure. For example, if there was no electoral college system if Nixon and Clinton were in an election and were running against each other it would lead to a serious problem. Since both men had only 43 percent plurality of the popular votes, it would be hard to choose a winner since they were both tied.
| Evidence | Adequate |
105b1332d43c | F27957F2AC4B | Now you see Mister Senater, why we need the electoral college system. Without it everything willl be really stressful and everythings already stressful. | Concluding Statement | Ineffective |
97aaf38f7e50 | F283261888C7 | Many say that the Electoral College so not be used anymore, but some will come back and argue that it should be used. | Position | Ineffective |
4addd04f808b | F283261888C7 | Many people dislike the Electoral College because the say it is unfair or irrational. | Claim | Adequate |
8e0e96d765a1 | F283261888C7 | The Electoral College is way different than popular vote. Popular votes are actually done by the people and they pick who they want for president, but the Electoral College is done by a person picking someone of their state's goverment and then leaves it to them to pick their president. Te electorial votes are unfair because it deoends on how big a state's population is. Some states only have 3
Electoral votes, but if that state used its popular votes it would
A LOT
more than just three votes to one president. | Evidence | Adequate |
35469c3cad5d | F283261888C7 | Many people on the other hand do like the Electoral College. They like the Electoral College because the stae will have voted and not leave it to the people to. | Claim | Adequate |
7db493f82fc4 | F283261888C7 | In 2012 only about one-half of elgible voters did vote. The Electoral College is said to be the most effecient way of voting by some people. People like the Electoral College more than popular voting is because in popular voting you will have certain people ote for cerain people not the best candidate, but in Electoral voting the person has nothing to do with the outcame so there will be no arguing on whos fault it is. | Evidence | Adequate |
0c99c634f036 | F283261888C7 | The Electoral College
NEEDS
to stay. If we get rid of the Electoral College the amount of votes in popular voting would be low to determine who they should pick. The Electoal College is the biggest reason we do so well on presidental winners.
| Concluding Statement | Ineffective |
97205ca542f5 | F2B0AA10A7C9 | n my opinion of the Electoral College, I think we should keep it. | Position | Adequate |
a82c4acb9c66 | F2B0AA10A7C9 | Many people would most likely say I am wrong to think that way or I am just a kid and I have no idea what I am discussing | Counterclaim | Ineffective |
f977e1b8ee02 | F2B0AA10A7C9 | but I really think we should even though it has some flaws, here is my three reasons why.
| Rebuttal | Adequate |
ce941f4bd0ec | F2B0AA10A7C9 | First, it was established by our founding fathers | Claim | Adequate |
0e6991e6e68c | F2B0AA10A7C9 | The ones who fought in battle against Britan. They sacerficed their lives to get us where we are today. Its not just a law, its what connects us to our ancestors and its what makes us unique from most nations voting systems today and back then.
| Evidence | Adequate |
5f289c902a05 | F2B0AA10A7C9 | Second, Though most will complain that we are not actually voting for president, but that we are putting our time and effort into voting for a slate of electors who then vote for president. | Claim | Adequate |
3afac8aa15ff | F2B0AA10A7C9 | Even though there is no rule against them not voting for the president of your choosing, most of them will vote for him since they are on his team and have pleged themselves to him. So really there is a very high chance of them voting for the president you want. I say they have done a very good job for such a stressing carrier. | Evidence | Adequate |
f2b788624c13 | F2B0AA10A7C9 | Third, It has been going good so far. | Claim | Adequate |
0547801b8b9b | F2B0AA10A7C9 | There are'nt wars taking place outside our homes like in some countries. Our Republican and Democratic parties are gracious in victory or humble in defeat. Yes there are some flaws in the system but thats just human nature. None of us are perfect and we never will be. We will make mistakes and we just got to live with them because there going to happen whether we like it or not. | Evidence | Adequate |
b59c83d23567 | F2B0AA10A7C9 | This is my three major reasons why I think we should keep the Electoral College. I hope you found them intresting and will take the words to heart. Please dont tred on the fact that I am just a teen, but that there is a teen out there that actually cares about our nations future and government. | Concluding Statement | Adequate |
0f925b34c4f7 | F2FB7E31855B | the Electoral college have been discovred by our founding fathers in the constitution"
why distroy something that was given to us? over time we have been voting for the Electoral College not the president. | Lead | Adequate |
b10872e74dfe | F2FB7E31855B | I personally think we should be able to vote based on popular vote, | Position | Adequate |
655ee3ea6987 | F2FB7E31855B | Over years, we voted for the Electoral College it consits of voting for President and Vice President | Claim | Ineffective |
3170429fe37d | F2FB7E31855B | and the counting of the electoral votes by congress, sounds diffict right? well this is how they run things, personally I think we should vote based on popular votes because according to source 2 under "
what's wrong with the electoral college" | Evidence | Ineffective |
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