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Or the judge forces them to re-marry since they divorced on a bug. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Yes, it does work this way. But it *shouldn't*.
I expect those deletions to sync across devices, just like my photos and notes and reminders and contacts and and and and...
Why not messages? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Wholesome as fuck. Thanks being a nice guy bro. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Technically inept people mad when they don’t realize how tech works. They don’t like this method of deleting until they delete something by accident and then freak out and blame others for the mistake. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
And then the whole office stood up and clapped and threw $100 bills at you lmao | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
It’s user error. Not new with tech. Don’t want things synced on the cloud. Turn it off. Want to delete cause you’re cheating. Verify how to delete on device. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Post on r/technology, but tech illiterates all around. Hilarious.
Though, PCMR is in a horrible state too. Dunno where to look for a bit of a smarter discourse. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Apparently he’s doing more than laying in it | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
https://support.apple.com/guide/icloud/what-you-can-do-with-icloud-and-messages-mma17ed475f7/icloud | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Nope, if both devices are set up to use the imessage account the device will show up on both, whether or not you are storing the messages in iCloud | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Pretty shit joke lil bro | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Nah, this society is all about blaming someone else for their problems | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Nah what’s hilarious is no one giving the solution to this problem in the comments. And believe me, there is one, but I won’t be the one to let everyone know. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Does the watch get synced to iPhone? If something was deleted on a Mac, synced to icloud and then iPhone synced, the message should be deleted on iPhone. Then iPhone syncs with the watch and message gets deleted with the watch | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
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Lol, yes, apple caused his marriage to fail, just like spoons cause people to be fat.
Sad reality is, syncing messages on apple products is much like syncing a pop email account. The link is not stable and the messages may still be on the server despite being removed from the client. And a client that's not synced /out of date may have local copies of deleted messages. Seeing as he's middle aged and a business man, he should be more than familiar with these concepts as they are best known by gen-x and people who have had to use email prior to the .com boom. He was just too lazy, and she suspected issues in the marriage. He got sloppy. I hope he doesn't get a dime. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Actually, Apples explanation is even simpler. The average user has no idea of how their iPhones file system works. They would download or copy images to the Downloads folder, then delete the **copy** of the image they had in Photos app. That doesn't delete the separate copy residing in their Downloads folder.
All the bad update did was accidentally index the Downloads folder and have those images show up in Photos. The photos there were never actually deleted, not a hard nor soft delete. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
How about the wife sues Apple for distress b/c if she never had found the messages, she would have otherwise been blissfully-unaware. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Maybe the answer is stop getting married? If you know you are a segen why would you tie yourself into a wife that you will lilely to cheat? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I work in infosec. We don't really care about porn unless it comes up during an investigation and is relevant, or the person is dumb enough to go somewhere that downloads malware or it causes other issues. Once I was working on dealing with some adware someone had on their laptop. I was reviewing logs to ensure nothing worse was downloaded. I found he had been moving copious amounts of porn to and from some personal USB drives (this was before we had software that'd block USB).
I tried to warn him about doing that because it showed up in our logs, by mentioning that he may want to lay off using his work computer to transport "certain files" between drives. I didn't use air quotes, but I put a strong emphasis on it. He didn't pick up on what I was trying to say though, and he goes "Oh, I was moving that stuff for my wife. I'll stop".
I bit my tongue. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Lol imagine thinking pure open trust between married peoples is needing "salvaged" | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Any idea why some people would say you should flip them like 5 or more times to make sure? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
What do they do when they need to send messages to each other? Just throwing the letters into the abyss of solemnity of a chat? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Domestic violence black mirror episode setup | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
It says "messages going back several years" though | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
That’s insane.
Privacy is very important to me I can never live a relationship like that | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
No, jokes are funny. You're just untalented. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
This is the one thing that annoys me the most about the Apple Watch.. can’t believe it’s been like this for so long. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
My daughters photos showed up in my photo stream. Now I have pictures of all her friends randomly popping up all the time. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
It's why the "enshitification" of everything today is so large scale. Too many lazy fucks. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
«Caught my ex-wife cheating on me the same way. thank you apple ! 🫡 » | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Correct. This is why calling someone a hypocrite doesn't mean they were wrong. A hypocrite may be correct about the thing, but then do the opposite anyway. Wrong is wrong, regardless. And hypocritical just means that they are a hypocrite, too. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
That’s not what happened with the bug though. It was deleting the entries from the photo *database* while never deleting the files themselves. The update then had a “fix” for orphaned files that seemingly didn’t take the original bug into account. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Cloud synchronization should be synchronization. It's not a backup, it's sync. If receiving messages are synced, deleting messages should also be synced. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Lol this dude said again, brother why ain't you toss her after the first time???? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Isn’t this how Gwen Stefani caught her then husband Gavin Rossdale cheating? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
He’s not the hero we deserve, but he’s the hero we need | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I don't use apple so I am not sure i understand still.
If you don't have "Enable Messages in iCloud" it saves the messages to the iCloud regardless and you can only delete from the iCloud with that enabled?
If messages aren't enabled in iCloud why is it saving messages to the iCloud?
That doesn't sound very intuitive. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I mean having an affair with someone like your wifes friend or something along on the lines of where you need to say don't worry baby I will get rid of my wife soon I promise is one thing. To divorce the man for getting a blowjob on a work trip by a person that he pays for it is another. To get a divorce seems crazy to me over some paid pussy since they are not equal. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I‘m not advocating for affairs when I say this. So don‘t get it twisted.
Don‘t you love privacy? Good thing Big Brother died with the Societ Union, eh?
Because I think he’s kind of right. This is invasive, and the cynical conspiracy theorist in me says the story‘s getting traction because the tech company found the one ethical instance of its use. Since it will be encouraged, for its percieved “valliant“ efforts.
And I don‘t like it. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Narcissists do everything to avoid being called "Normies". They try so hard to be rebels that they all end up looking the same. Check out the body tattoos and piercings and how they peacock struct around with their 2-inch eyelash extenders. Its like they were subconsciously trained by a army drill sergeant to be a uniform platoon. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Imagine thinking the need to be privy to every single text is the definition of "pure open trust". | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Except most of the time they do get deleted on my AW. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
To be fair, after a certain point, its an absolute nightmare to unravel and get everyone on their own IDs. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Those services store on a central service. I don't know if imessage stores on a server or not. If it does then the parent comment doesn't apply; it's not a distributed system. If it doesn't (more likely, not even WhatsApp does) then yeah, it's pretty much impossible to guarantee deletion everywhere | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
These are fanboys, apple can do no wrong. As a developer is it easy? No, but it's also not that hard. I think it's safe to say apple has the resources to make it smooth and seamless it's just not a priority for them. That might change now or will as someone else pointed out some abused spouse ends up dead. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Eewwwww people do that?! And allow it!? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Uplifting cynicism | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Meh, living language, it'll change. 21 Jump Street was oh so long ago.
Richard Grieco is timeless tho' | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Am I on the cheaters side? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Imagine missing the entire point of that well worded post, complete with an appropriate analogy. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Interesting thanks | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Cheating wife — the husband is to blame.
Good logic. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
As an IT manger, the number of times I get mixed up in tickets due to some employee being pissed that their deleted items was deleted because they were using it as an archive is sadly way more than I would want.
Its 2024. Delete is not expected to mean delete anymore. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
One thing I’ve learned while in the investment industry: Never write something down if you’re worried about it getting out. Nothing is ever truly deleted… | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Maybe, but pretty sure that's at least illegal now with the GDPR (in Europe, don't know American law) | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Driving in your car and a text message pops up on the cars screen while the entire family is in the car 🤯 | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Wasn’t talking about the storage in phones. Of course they don’t use spinning disk drives lol. Nothing has really since the OG iPods in terms of portable devices. Was talking about desktops and laptops. But more to the point, massive clouds do use spinning drives in the mix AFAIK, at least as deep backup. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
If you aren’t doing anything wrong, why is the bathroom door closed when you poop | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Ya man. It’s actually super typical for when a person starts to lose an argument, they’ll start using big words like “orthogonal” and referencing the “dunning Kruger effect” to make them selves feel superior.
You can just say “two independent things” which they aren’t. The cloud, apple’s icloud was launched in 2011. It’s 2024. Users have no excuse for not trying to understand it in that amount of time.
And like. Hilarious that you are referencing the dunning Kruger effect at all considering you clearly think you are more competent than you are.
Based. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I managed an experiential retail business that used iPod touches to scan customer tickets. The iPods required Apple ID accounts to access the ticketing app, so someone from corporate who provisioned them used her personal Apple ID. Luckily the iPods had texting and emailing turned off, so none of the underage employees saw this woman's private messages, but on some of the slower days, they'd get bored and start taking pictures on them; they still needed camera functionality to scan the tickets, but then they eventually discovered this woman's private iCloud pictures being downloaded, most of which were nudes.
Cue HR interviewing all of us to make sure the photos weren't shared anywhere else and nobody felt violated. Luckily everyone had an empathetic response and felt bad for her, and nobody got fired. The IT person was the only one who was verbally reprimanded for not securing the devices or provisioning them himself using a private service account. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
imessage is distributed by default, each device stores the messages seperately from apples servers for privacy, you can optionally enable using apples servers to sync you device state | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I'm not an Apple user but I thought iCloud was sync, not backup? A sync service should obviously sync everything, so stuff is, well, in sync. It should sync deletions too. I think Time Machine is Apple's backup service? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Blaming Apple is the least of his problems. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I get a message from onedrive frequently telling me that when a file is deleted somewhere it's deleted everywhere. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Are you talking about iMessages or text messages? iMessages are able to be synced through apple’s iMessage system. Normal text messages/SMS are not synced through iMessage, and can’t be synced through iCloud since the watch doesn’t support it. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
You know the rules and so do I
Seriously though damn everything makes so much more sense now thanks | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
He’s absolutely right. I mean, if I delete an email, it’s gone forever, right? Right? 😁 | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I mean it doesn't make Apple *wrong* though.
Think about it this way, you highlight all the porn on your computer and press Delete and comfirm that you want to delete it. And it disappears from the folder.
The your wife/husbad checks the Recycle Bin and finds it all.
Is Microsoft in the wrong there? Or are *you* in the wrong because you just don't understand how your OS works?
This situation is the exact same. He deleted them from the phone, but they weren't deleted from iCloud. This is something that lots of people know about iCloud mostly when you have to clear space on your phone so delete a ton of photos/clips/messages/etc but they're kept in iCloud. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Well if he’s not cheating or anything then I understand, maybe a lot of trust in the family and no secrets? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
the main issue with surveillance is that you cant know what would be deemed "criminal/inappropriate" in the future.
ask the jews that were living in the netherlands when hitler came into power. they were found because they dutch had documents about where the jews lived.
imagine you get put into a concentration camp in like 20 years from now because now you say something thats not an issue at all at this moment. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Good job narc, you are now acab adjacent. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
As I said, I see how it can be confusing. But where is the line between users taking accountability and responsibility for how we voluntarily use a service versus holding the companies who create those services liable for a user’s misunderstanding of the technology?
To reiterate, even if it can be confusing, I don’t think Apple should be held financially liable for this person’s misunderstanding of the tech. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
Ahhaha you never went to college | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
And use an app that actually hides your secrets/lies 😂🍿 | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
... To add this feature to your iCloud add 5.99/mo. Privacy Plus service to your cart and checkout. 👍 | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
>You will receive any messages henceforth, though. And because it’s not synced unless you enable messages in iCloud, deleting a message on one device won’t delete it on another.
Let me put it another way:
If you have two Apple devices with the same Apple ID, but without Messages in iCloud *send a message out*, does that *outbound message* show up on both devices? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
Apple, it just "works" | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
Long time Apple tech, dealt with too many of those. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
You jumping on this lawsuit? I smell class action….or is that leftovers? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
And I sure as fuck hope neither did you, with your utterly moronic"Users shouldn't be allowed to delete their private data stance" you shouldn't be allowed within 5 miles of a computer. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
Yeah, deletion works across all connected devices. People keep saying it needs to change. The only thing that needs to change is buggy iCloud sync that glitches. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
Deleting on my iPhone and not deleting on my watch is so fucking annoying. Plus on the watch it’s a bitch to delete lots of stuff like authorization codes, spam texts, etc. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
Probably a slow process and he slipped right into this crappy relationship, adjusting along the way. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
I don't know where the line for *legal* liability lies (especially not in the UK, where this happened). Maybe the court will agree with your take and dismiss the suit.
But "just good enough to not get sued" is not the only standard to which they should be held. I do think more broadly, in terms of ethics and competency, they haven't done a good enough job. It is explicitly the job of engineers and designers to create products where users understand what's happening to their data. In fact, it's the kind of thing Apple usually takes pride in being good at; it's even part of how they promote themselves. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
...not to judge, but one would think theyd be setup based on the company email that is given to each employee | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
Worked for Apple care for 5 years. lol Apple Watch is where it’s at. It doesn’t sync all the time with iMessage so it doesn’t delete what you delete on phone or iPad. Fun times as an escalation supervisor. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
100% just sitting here imagining the shit storm that is going to come from the Microsoft Windows recall feature they are planning on. 😅 | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
Good lord that’s a rough way to be involved. I was working an entry level tech support job years ago and we caught a guy with CP and turned him in.
But luckily for us we were running some virus scans with Linux bootable discs so all we were seeing were the file names in CLI. That was enough for us to call the cops, hand over the computer with notes of where to look and his info including credit card info etc… no one I worked with ever had to see any of the pics. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
You're correct. That being said, I'd still bet a jury would easily side with this guy's assumption being reasonable. A lot of people read nothing about their own personal tech, and a lot of people don't know how stuff works in general. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
Last i checked, For syncing between computer and phone, apple has an automatic option to sync over cloud, options for syncing over wifi, and a manual option that will only sync when connected. If he did not have his phone set up for automatic syncing, then it would be his own fault for failing to understand that he needed to connect his phone to the computer if he wanted to delete what was on the computer.
There is also the issue of back ups. Backups would NOT automatically delete the files since the entire point of back ups is to give you a way to recover lost files, and thus are something that you DON'T want automatically deleting data. Back ups are something that need to be removed or overwritten manually. If his wife found the data through the back ups on the computer, then he would be blaming the back up feature for doing its job.
If either of those is the case, then he would its his own fault for not understanding the features that were offered to him | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
So you’re saying there’s a _chance_ she was hot? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
It's not considered snitching when kids are involved you fucking twat! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
I can confirm that tickling can seriously be torture. If you’re not ticklish, then you have no idea how terrifying it is to have no control over your body, being forced into a panic state, barely able to breathe enough to beg the person to stop, and even if you do, they *keep going* because “you’re laughing, so that must mean you like it” | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
This is why I don’t sync my phone or updated in months | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
It’s clearly not that it’s about making sure when I delete data I have multiple copies of, I damn sure want the system to at least ask if I want to delete all copies
Or just this one. Goddamn people are fucking slow | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
You replied to someone saying that people should be able to permanently delete their data by saying "no" and then you complain when people assume you don't permanent data deletion to even be possible.
The only slow one here is you and your dogshit communication skills. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
I don't get people. Like a tiny bit of research into a product and its features will save you so much time and trouble | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
I worked for a phone shop and had a customer come in saying her iPhones been hacked and there are loads of dick pics suddenly in her photos. Their 20ish sons face turned white when I explained other devices sync and any device using that log in backs up by default.
Another one from a phone shop was a “hacked sim” causing £300 worth of phone charges (her account, his number). Sex lines, last i saw of the couple she’d thrown his phone at his face screaming he’s a pervert. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
I don't see how Apple is responsible for his child support | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
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