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Been there man, hang in there. It’s hard to throw in the towel on the hard work you’ve done after the first round but great to finally make the call and put your foot down.
Cheers to brighter days ahead and finding your new level. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
This guy doesn't deserve a cent not necessarily because apple has no wrong doing I don't know if they do but because he is an idiot. Everyone knows you only contact hookers from a secondary texting app using a disposable number and a fake name, according to a friend who told me this. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
That’s not what happened here, though. He deleted them from one device, expecting them to be deleted from all his devices, but they were just deleted on one device. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
It’s not about that. It’s about the transparency and customer expectations. If it only deleted on the current device, that’s fine, but it should tell the user that the message has only been deleted on this device. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
“Scheme”? LMAO now it’s a conspiracy against men? Who have traditionally had advantages over women? You and the child up there can open DMs to talk about how you want to stay single forever and can’t trust women. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
His statement still stands. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Maybe keep shit professional in teams? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I’m pretty sure he did that wrong, too.. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
His problem wasn't Apple keeping the stuff tho | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
He could have just enabled the setting that would do that lol | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Hope they throw the case out and make him pay for Apple’s legal fees. What a stupid, cheating prick. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
This is probably the answer but years ago on my Samsung phone I experienced a glitch where I texted my now wife something, luckily something innocuous, and it sent the same message to my last 10 people that I texted, including my parents and my boss. Thank goodness it was nothing embarrassing but that was absolutely terrifying | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Lol and people are already throwing money at them praising the unseen "cloud security" for their cheap gimmicky ai garbage. Enjoy having everything on your phone constantly being sent to apple. Don't worry though. Their cloud security is magic and can't be broken lmao. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Don’t sync them across devices and back up to iCloud. This is right up there with someone using their personal Google account to sign into chrome at work and having all their porn bookmarks transferred to their work pc. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Had an acquaintance who had the same thing happen to him. All the texts were on their kids iPad. Banging the barmaid | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I’m sure it’s a “feature” cause people were un-intentionally deleting stuff. Hell, I’ve deleted photos only to find them in the “deleted” album and then restored them. I’m sure they know how to, it’s just a matter of where on the priority list it is, and what new “feature” the PMs promised the stakeholders would be ready by the next update. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Sure, but you can still get close. Otherwise cloud file sharing services like OneDrive, Box, would never exist. They can clearly sync the message to all devices so they should be able to mark it for deletion on all devices as well.
There’s a difference between implementing the functionality to delete a message and it occasionally not working due to uncertainty, and not implementing the functionality at all. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Well yeah in an ideal world. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Only his motivation is wrong, not his reason. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I swear the greatest loss of the modern era is the general idea of accountability. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
That being said the version of teams we have makes you explicitly say you want to share chat history. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
LMAO - this has got nothing to do about trust. YOU DONT NEED TO GET MARRIED. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
And you don’t need to concern yourself with others decisions? I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make. People will continue to get married and you can continue TO BE UPSET ABOUT IT | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Because Apple's platform design is terrible. It makes a ton of things easier to use one Apple ID across multiple devices as a family. We use multiple IDs in our family, and this means having to remember which ID was used to buy what app on each of the kid's iPads. And occasionally I have to walk over to have my wife enter her password, because one of the apps on "her" account on one of the iPads needs an update. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I only have my MacBook and iPhone signed into my iCloud account. I can delete messages with sync turned on both devices, and it will delete on both. But they come back after iCloud re-syncs or I reboot one of the devices. I’ve given up trying to delete old messages. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I feel like I'd stop texting that person tbh | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
i just learned how those hard drive recovery tools work cause of this, awesome comment man | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Yup. It’s apples fault! For gosh sakes man, take some responsibility | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
That's what he/she meant by metadata. That's an option, but for some things even evidence that it existed would be problematic for somebody. Hence...it's a difficult problem. Basically different users want different and sometimes incompatible behavior out of the same feature so how are you going to reconcile that? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I read somewhere (can't find it now, of course) that it wasn't a case of you deleting something and then Apple keeping them around somewhere secret. In actuality, for those pictures, what probably happened was when you tried to delete them, the records of those photos in a database on your phone got corrupted when changing their state. Normally they get marked for deletion in the database, and then they're deleted. So they were *marked* for deletion, removing them from view in your library, but the *cleanup* of removing them from the database afterward never happened because of the corrupted records, so they stuck around on the hard drive. Then, an OS update later "cleaned up" that database, effectively undeleting those previously deleted photos as an unexpected side effect.
I don't know if that's the case, because I don't work for Apple, but it passes the smell test for me as a tech industry worker (not BIG tech, but tech). | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
My BIL was treated like a child slave for years and years by my sister. BIL is 15 years older than my sister. He now resides in a hospital receiving care because he's had two strokes and now has Aphasia. He can't walk nor feed himself. My sister abused her husband physically, emotionally, mentally and verbally but he was extremely passive and didn't stand up to my sister. She took advantage of his kindness and everyone is sickened by what she did. My BIL was in the Navy for many years and was a Master Chief on a submarine. When he got out of the Navy he became a teacher and an ROTC instructor. My sister demanded a lot from her husband. She never had to work and got pretty much everything she wanted. Karma is coming for her though and I can't wait.
I forgot to mention that my sister didn't 'allow' my BIL to visit his adult kids and grandchildren. She never let him do anything but all the while, my sister was screwing every man she could find. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Dude cheats on his wife then plays the victim like his cheating wasn’t his fault lol. Deleted messages SHOULD be deleted, yes. But lol. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Not having other people read your texts is a fucking awesome reward, what the heck are you talking about?!?? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
My father in law was apparently getting text messages that were only supposed to go to my wife. Luckily I don't send her anything explicit but she was having conversations with some of her girlfriends about sex life etc. which he received. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Same. I have tried everything I could find online. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Oh fuck off and keep jerking it with your android, fanboy | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Redditors always out here downvoting factual statements. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
So if one person buys a song or show or whatever, everyone else gets it for free. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
He's got a point but honestly I thought everyone knew that messages only delete on your device. Which is why it was a big deal when they recently started allowing you to unsend your last message, which deletes it on all devices | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
The family that iMessages together, stays together! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
So, his devices automatically shared the messages with each other, but not the deletion?
That seems stupid. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Right on all counts except the last. If the bits are flipped it's gone gone. No lab, no multi-billion dollar NSA setup, nothing is getting it back. The trick is making sure it's actually overwritten with a full format or on an SSD having TRIM be correctly implemented by the manufacturer, in which case it'll happen automatically shortly after that file was orphaned by a deleted partition table entry. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I mean... On of the most common, if not most common operating systems since the advent of personal computing, windows, has had the recycle bin since '95, so I'm not sure that this is something that can be reasonably assumed from common vernacular. The guy may have a case, but it seems unlikely to me. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Not quite. If you just enable iMessage on your phone, it only transits through Apple's servers. In this setup Apple does not keep a "mailbox" for your messages that you can download later. If you add a separate device, it will work as an independent client receiving the same messages. If you lose both devices and don't have a backup, you lose those messages.
However if you enable "Enable Messages in iCloud" this will keep devices in sync. In this setup Apple does manage sync state between devices. It says [on this site:](https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/delete-messages-and-attachments-iph2c9c4bfcb/ios)
> If you use Messages in iCloud, deleting a message or conversation on your iPhone deletes it from all your devices where Messages in iCloud is on. See Keep your messages up to date with iCloud in the iCloud User Guide.
> Note: Deleting messages only affects your iPhone and other Apple devices where you’re signed in with the same Apple ID. You can’t delete messages, attachments, and conversations for anyone else.
> To delete everything (not just your messages), see Erase iPhone.
Sounds like the person in this lawsuit had iMessage set up on his Mac, but did not enable the "Enable Message in iCloud", causing the Mac to act like an independent client. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
This perspective is really strange to me. My husband is privy to a lot more secrets than my friends. Unless we're planning a suprise for him I don't know what I would want to keep private. Plus I prefer having him on group texts so he can reply to stuff when I don't feel like it. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
that's the apple way... | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Your boss signed the dad’s Apple ID into all the devices. Either because the dude told him to or whatever the reason but that’s really all it was | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
If you truly believe that family court and divorce court does not heavily favor women then you obviously have no firsthand experience in either. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I think eventually yes, because there is a coat associated with it. However, there is also value for AI training. So, I would expect them to wait a bit, suck out all of the value in their data, and then purge the information, to make more space on their servers.
I think eventually, that amount of information would become significant. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
The other devices were in a different state so that seems unlikely. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
You can clean recycle hin too, unless it goes somewhere hidden from the user’s eyes. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I had a similar situation on a desktop once. I had to clear up space but my deleted filed kept reappearing. It took hours for me to find the source of the issue. Horrible design. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
If you have [iCloud for Messages](https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/icloud/mma17ed475f7/icloud#:~:text=When%20you%20set%20up%20iCloud,iPad%2C%20iPod%20touch%20and%20Mac.) turned on, it does exactly that, it synchronises all of your changes across devices logged into your iCloud account.
If you have it turned off like this guy clearly did then it obviously won't synchronise your changes across the iCloud account. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Same with pics. I remember on my iPhone 4 when I would save a transparent image it would show a deleted image behind it in the thumbnail which freaked me out knowing that data is still stored somewhere. It wasn’t anything bad but it made me wonder what the hell was the reason I had such low storage yet they pull shit like that. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I only have my MacBook and iPhone signed into my iCloud account. I can delete messages with sync turned on both devices, and it will “delete” on both. But they come back after iCloud re-syncs or I reboot one of the devices.
I’ve done this with both devices right next to each other and connected to the internet. Also tried leaving the deleted items in the trash, or “permanently” deleting them. Thought I might’ve been doing something wrong, but it just doesn’t work as intended.
I’ve given up trying to delete messages. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
This is why I don’t do family nothing…. I have my own Apple ID. Period | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
All those Edward Snowden type laws meant that made mass collection of peoples info illegal only apply to Americans. Not an American? Expect all of your messages to be recorded. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I also work for Apple and I cannot tell you how many issues we have because people come in and don't understand that they should have their own individual Apple IDs.
Like, people set up their accounts incorrectly sharing an Apple ID with several other people and then get mad at us because their shit isn't working the way it's intended to. When we tell them they need to make their own individual apple IDs, they act like we're telling them they need to get kidney surgery or something. It's wild how apples entire business model is making technology accessible and easy to use, and yet somehow that only causes people to be even less technologically literate and get even more upset when they do things that make the devices work incorrectly. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Welcome to Reddit. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
In that case, you *should* probably turn on iCloud for messages if it’s not on already. This will enable deletion across all devices when you delete a conversation from one of them. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
You do realize that Apple IDs are free, right? The longer you wait to switch and separate them, the worse it's going to be when you actually need to separate them. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Going for sex work ain't cheating you christian brainwashed prude | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
My parents only have one Gmail account that they share which makes supporting their phones pretty awful | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Delete should mean delete. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
But then how would I use the data to feed you ads and build a profile of you | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
If no means no, delete should mean delete. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
If you get beaten by a controlling spouse because apple leaked your texts where you were trying to get help, I feel like there are grounds for a law suit in there. But if you get into a divorce because your own cheating gets discovered, it's still the consequences of your own actions coming to roost. You don't even have to go into the unpleasantness of this dude. This lawsuit won't go anywhere. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
A "healthy marriage" is one in which both partners can have private conversations with friends without paranoid people feeling like doing so is the equivalent of "hiding" something. It's called trust. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
eh, sorry, using shorthand from the raisedby sub. I know the more common meaning of like a snich. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
It's gotta be though, right? If I can send and receive SMS via my laptop...
I stopped being lazy and looked. Yeah Messages in iCloud is on.
e; and that thread of messages that said it'd delete everywhere is still on my phone, half hour later or whatever it's been. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Also, buying a new phone is an absolute nightmare if you don't have individual Apple IDs. Especially because a lot of the times it can cause iCloud backups to completely fuck up and not restore properly. And then they go into the Apple Store and yell at the people who work there because things don't work the way they should all because they haven't set up their accounts properly. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
This is kinda funny cause following your advice is probably what got the guy caught. Maybe he does have case. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Yes it does sync deletion. Your device could be offline, not turned on in awhile, needs your Apple ID password to re-sync, Etc. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
> They also have no friends. Literally none
I also just cut out a pair of friends out of my life (they are a couple) who I used to consider good friends for the last 4 years. They similarly had no concept of boundaries (the guy had access to all of his girlfriend’s social media accounts, banking info, tax info etc) and also had no friends other than me and my partner.
People that have no concept of boundaries find it hard to make friends. It *can* be a sign of narcissism. In my case, I found out that they did in fact have narcissistic traits that ultimately forced us to cut them out. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I worked in the store at the same time. Oh you could write an entire series of books about Tales from the Genius Bar. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
fuck apple i hope he wins even if you sign out on other machines the messages are still there and wont permanently delete for 30 days absolute bullshit | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
LOL, Maybe I misunderstood? Was he not soliciting prostitutes? Call me what you like, but I would be devastated if my husband did that. And if the guy had to do it secretively you KNOW his wife wouldn't be OK with it. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I got a new phone recently and all of my ex girlfriend's dirty pics showed back up after I clicked to import my data from my old phone. It was quite a surprise considering I had deleted them years ago. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
How do you do that? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
LPT: don’t use your personal account for a shared device. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
lol this is how I found out my partner was cheating on me, kept getting the messages sent to my kids iPad. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Apple: “There is no “i” in iMessage” | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Yep. Should be “Messages have been deleted on this device. Messages received on other devices may still be available.” Or something like that. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
You're so predictable lol. I didn't say I know what a happy relationship looks like. I don't. Nobody does. We just pretend until we can't pretend anymore. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
That's not why they want access to the devices, and not only do the carriers save them, the interchange companies also do. And the service providers that apps that send them do.
In theory, law enforcement wouldn't be able to see them without a warrant, but that's only in theory and once they have a warrant, your carrier, the interchange carrier and the destination carrier will all have records of them.
(This is something I had to explain repeatedly to customers in the past who were sending HIPAA-violating PII via SMS and MMS.)
Really, MMS is even worse because the contents of the message sit in yet another set of storage servers, not just transit servers. An MMS is logically the equivalent of your telco uploading the message to a webserver and texting a link to the recipient.
I mean, more than logically -- that's effectively exactly what it is. You just never see the link. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Yeah exactly. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Disregarding the potential for abuse and overreach, the best argument I've ever heard for curtailing surveillance and imo a perfect counter to "If you're not doing anything wrong..." is the example of shower singing:
Many of us don't like to sing in public. Maybe we are embarrassed at our skill, maybe we just don't like the attention it would bring. But a lot of the same people *will* sing in the shower, when alone.
We are simply different people when we don't feel surveilled, regardless of whether we are doing anything wrong/illegal or not.
Your brother has obviously been accustomed to always being under observation, and I cannot imagine that it hasn't had an effect on your interactions, but I also imagine it's salvable if he's able to set some boundaries. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
When that first happened, wife was using my iPad and saw texts between me and a coworker who had the hots for me. She sent me a pic of her in a bikini.
Luckily every one of my responses to that point was work related and instead of responding to the pic, I talked to her in person and said to not send me that shit because I already have a smoking hot wife. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Frivolous lawsuit much? Your incompetence with technology is nobody’s fault but your own, you absolute twat. Time to lay in the bed you’ve made.
Does the UK punish people for frivolous lawsuits? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
This isn’t just an Apple thing. It’s most tech and it’s a safety precaution. As much as one guy says “delete should be delete” many more people will want to recover accidentally deleted information. Way more technically inept people out there than you’d imagine. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
It's like finding out that Snapchat actually saves all your dick pics in a permanent database all over again. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I agree. The word delete needs to mean something. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Does person get to decide to delete the messages for the whole group? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Yeah, well, that's common knowledge for tech hobbyists.
But also, the point is, delete means the directory is gone. If it appears back as it was, without the use of a recovery software, that's extremely weird.
Also side note, typically SSDs have a lot less *extra* capacity. Compared to older HDDs.
So it's a bug where :
1. It doesn't even delete directory.
Or
2. It does a recovery level scan of the drive randomly.
Of course, managing these kind of basic system functions, is something everyone else figured out decades ago.
Apple will innovate deleting stuff in IOS 19 maybe. Just wait. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Sounds like he is in an abusive relationship. You would need to contact him in person when he is alone. Just knowing you are willing to help him escape might be enough. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
The backup syncs automatically so it deletes everything too. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Way back in the day my buddy started dating a chick who would check his phone every night and she hated me and another friend so he got a burner phone he left at the office and we only texted during business hours.
Then one day his wife shows up to go to lunch and his fucking assistant goes “hey you forgot your phone and runs up to him with it”. We didn’t hear from him for almost two years | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Ugh people who can’t take responsibility for their own actions like this are ruining the world for the rest of us. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
This is like those people whose Reddit username is something like IanBialikFromPlanoTX, when that’s their legit information. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
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