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Nah, the people responsible for that ending all got their cut, and moved on. They aren't in it for the long haul, thats why you see the same execs getting brought into a company only to parcel it out brick by brick until there's nothing of value left. They know this will happen, too, but the ones who bring them in also get a cut. This is the ultimate end point of most any business.
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2024-15-06
Planes fly in China, yes, but not Chinese planes.
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2024-15-06
I can venture a guess! "It's too expensive, we need to cut costs for my bonus, so put in less titanium." "Alright boss." -fin-
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2024-15-06
They ARE doing quality control of every batch of material coming in. They ARE doing regular audits as well. The problem is that there is a whole chain of supply for every single part. Many companies involved. Hundreds or even thousands. And there are many, MANY parts. But to put things into perspective. An airliner is made of 5.000.000 parts. If it would take just ONE MINUTE to verify each part, it would take 10 YEARS.
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2024-15-06
If I remember correctly, they purchased the materials from a Turkish company, which purchased them from China.
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2024-15-06
This post is randomly citing HAECO but I find no link to their involvement. Do you have data ... or a beef with HAECO?
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2024-15-06
Just shut Boeing down and arrest management
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2024-15-06
Who said anything about "a bottom-of-the-barrel Chinese manufacturer"? They bought material from a reputable manufacturer. Turns out, the material didn't come from them.
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2024-15-06
Yea bring out the burnt mettalurgic samples, dont take eyes off the manufacturer here. Companies sample and are provided the metallurgic analyses at the pouring of the metal and verify the two.
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2024-15-06
You're just spewing out bullshit without even reading the story.
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2024-15-06
Perhaps getting to the nuts and bolts of the situation will blow the door off Boeing's latest scandal? Crazy how that joke wrote itself /s
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2024-15-06
Who said it was the lowest bidder? Go for the quality bidder, get chinesium anyway. What now?
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2024-15-06
Imagine your brain exploding thinking that this could happen with the expensive titanium.
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2024-15-06
Because existing, rigorously-vetted suppliers *never* cheat.
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2024-15-06
Because expensive suppliers never cheat, right?
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2024-15-06
No....I'm pretty dead on with my breakdown.
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2024-15-06
Because you fired all of the engineers!
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2024-15-06
The companies still spend their own money on R&D from time to time to make stuff, also called independent research & development (IRAD). I think Raytheon spent a whole bunch recently after the lifting of the intermediate ballistic missile treaty to make missiles with longer ranges on the assumption that the military will buy. There are also other reasons, such as nationalization means all of the contractors are federal employees, with federal benefits, which are quite expensive & the difficulty of hiring & firing increases quite a bit.
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2024-15-06
China owned was all we needed to know
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2024-15-06
> That’s them. see, the whole reason I wanted fiber to the home in the US is so we have symmetrical capacity that is not beholden to cable companies. Is there any plan to go back and add fiber to the home, at least in the more densely populated areas?
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2024-15-06
For sure. There’s a big issue with contracts for uber specific military needs. Just from this list you can see that they defrauded the government millions upon millions for really specific systems like flare deployment and jet specific stealth radar jamming. However, the cases brought against them by the government were so strong because of this paper trail and excessive testing before anything is deemed combat worthy. The planes themselves (outside of these very niche systems installed on them) are still held up to the same standards I mentioned and are largely worked on and maintained by career mechanics (both contractors and enlisted folk). By and large, these huge defense contractors are the ones doing R&D for new systems while all of the maintenance and part assembly goes heavily through the military itself.
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2024-15-06
Yes. The cable has just rolled past my home and should be available by end of year (9 years late). 5G internet is being rolled out suburb by suburb. Real remote or mobile homes and boats have been using Starlink.
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2024-15-06
Plane in sky, western spy. Plane on ground, comrade found.
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2024-15-06
> The cable has just rolled past my home and should be available by end of year (9 years late). That's good. Now only if they made it symmetrical. I think it is technically possible, right? I mean if there is a bottleneck to fiber outside of Australia, at least symmetrical within Australia?
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Nope IRAD is still billable to the government https://www.ndia.org/policy/issues/acquisition-reform/independent-research-and-development
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2024-15-06
Some IRAD is & others aren't.
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2024-15-06
See also "AI," which is a hype bubble. But whatever, I'm hoping people doom themselves enough that CS admissions fall more and people drop out of the industry. My kids will be ready to join the family industry when the rebound happens, instead of chasing the next influencer-driven career fad (which is currently directing people to the trades, which has high wages primarily because labor is so tight; those wages will decrease as more and more people flood into them as the next "sure thing." I remember when trades paid shit relative to tech, then the bubble burst and trades become attractive again... Then that bubble burst and people went back to tech, rinse and repeat).
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2024-15-06
My guess it was cheaper..,
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2024-15-06
But that’s exactly what they’re doing, planes are getting more and more unsafe because these companies are trying to cut costs
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2024-15-06
Imagine paying consultants millions of dollars to give you that advice. You don't need someone with an MBA to tell you that being a cheap ass will save you money.
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2024-15-06
The only thing I would clarify is that I wrote those unit tests after a month of getting us working jars. In response to those unit tests they created a separate code base with classes and methods that matched up but those methods were empty aside from a return statement that was written to satisfy the unit test. They’d run the unit test against that code and then send me the jar. I only caught on to their nonsense when I forced them to have a meeting and show me on their screen the unit tests were passing.
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2024-15-06
Airbus even warned that banning Russian titanium would hit the industry very hard. Boeing, on the other hand, has blamed aircraft mechanics and now suppliers. When does it come back on the elected officials for policy changes that affected the supply chains? (it likely won’t)
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2024-16-06
What I said applies to American corporations in general....including the supplier and sums it up with "100 stories a year for the next decade".   You for some reason have a hard on for Boeing.  Maybe your grand pappy worked for them or you're a leaching stockholder.   Regardless, it's a sick game they all played and the chickens are coming home to roost.    We are about to see what happens giving all these corporations free reign.   They destroyed our economy over penny pinching when making billions.  
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2024-16-06
How did it save the regulator agency any money? They don’t sell the titanium to the manufacturers.
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Gotta keep the people down somehow. And religion is really really good at that.
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2024-15-06
This is complete and utter horse shit. No, they didn't print an entire rocket engine, turbines, pumps and all, in one piece. At best, they did the bell/nozzle...and that's been done before. On full size specimens.
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2024-15-06
Relativity Space has been doing this already: https://www.relativityspace.com/
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> The renters should also have a class action lawsuit against these landlords. I look forward to my $14 check.
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2024-14-06
Doesn't the owner have Clarence Thomas in his pocket?
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2024-14-06
Don’t worry everyone they get a 1% fine and slap on the wrist once it’s all done and over with…
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2024-14-06
The rent fixer to corrupt judge pipeline is strong
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2024-14-06
A extremely large widespread class action lawsuit may well be in order!
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2024-14-06
Loooooooooool there will be no jail time, are you serious lmao?! I’d be shocked if they even get a fine. If Republicans win this will go literally nowhere
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2024-14-06
Wow that is amazing and horrible at the same time. Literally turds 💩 destroying things once again.
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2024-14-06
#You need to read the lawsuit before you respond to the lawsuit otherwise you sound ignorant. Seriously though like why even type out a response without reading the paperwork? It’s pretty obvious you didn’t read the paperwork because your entire summary is incorrect. You shouldn’t make such strong statements without knowing your subject matter.
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2024-15-06
There are people who can afford it and there are people who can’t. The reason for the higher prices is that there exist people who can. This is not rocket science. If you’re claiming that anyone should be able to afford it, you’re asking for the government to put in strict price controls. This path has its own consequences, intended and unintended.
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2024-15-06
I'd let my morals slide and condone torture in this instance.
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2024-15-06
This is a capitalistic system. We either take it or leave it. If we want more government intervention and price controls, we have to be ready as a society to deal with the consequences.
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>It’s a free market. That's exactly what RealPage has prevented from occurring. Read beyond the headline.
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2024-15-06
So home owners are not allowed to collaborate and decide their rates? If the algo gave them untenable rates with months or years of vacancies, they would drop it in a heartbeat.
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We need to be ready for the consequences of too little price control and regulation as well, because we haven’t even seen the worst of it yet.
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>There are people who can afford it and there are people who can’t. Dude. We're talking about a basic-ass apartment in a working class suburb-- working a full-time job should give you enough money to be able to afford a roof over your head without packing the apartment like a college dorm room, and the fact that it's *not* is absurd. If I'm making what I do and still need to live with a roommate, how the hell are the 48 million Americans who make less than $20/hr supposed to get by when all the landlords feel like they're entitled to an extra $100/month every year and venture funds and flippers keep Kirbying anything that hits the market, cash in hand? >If you’re claiming that anyone should be able to afford it, you’re asking for the government to put in strict price controls. No, I'm asking for the government to loosen zoning restrictions and incentivize building more housing in the places where people want to live (although it also wouldn't hurt to make efforts to revitalize our smaller cities and large towns-- right now a lot of great areas are being abandoned because there's no jobs, opioid addictions are rampant, and the only stores left are Walmart and Dollar General. Anyone who can get out does, which means the only people left behind are the ones who can't leave, leading to a death spiral where a once-vibrant town rots.) Right now we're severely understocked, which is leading rich people and venture funds into hoarding behavior. It's fucking over our economy and the lives of our working class. Reducing the pricing by increasing supply is smart economics.
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2024-15-06
Do Bozzuto next
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2024-15-06
incoming couple million dollar fine
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2024-15-06
Please explain to me how bankruptcy protects shareholders.
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2024-15-06
The other side would be that in allowing landlords to charge more, in the long term you will increase the supply of housing by making it more lucrative
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2024-15-06
That's what price fixing is, if it applies to a large enough segment of the market. If everyone agrees to set their rates in lockstep then rates will never be untenable, at least until people are forced en masse into homelessness.
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2024-15-06
A friend asked if I wanted a job there. On paper, the role was basically what I was looking for. Me: Why do I recognize the name of a real estate company in Texas? Oh. These fuckers.
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2024-15-06
Can’t be. He hasn’t raised the rent on Thomas’s mother in years.
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2024-15-06
They own Trump and a Supreme Court justice. But they didn’t own the investigative journalists at ProPublica.
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2024-15-06
Fuck Greystar.
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2024-15-06
I’m not sure you understand the legal system.
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2024-15-06
Real page takes the confidential data from 10 different landlords. They use all of the information to come up with prices. Then sends the prices back to the landlords individually. No, they don't send the confidential data back, they just use the result of the collated confidential data.
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2024-15-06
I hope they have to resort to bankruptcy after this. Considering the amount of money they’ve fucked people for. An eleven figure fine/settlement would probably be a massive profit for all the companies who benefitted from this. 
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2024-15-06
RAID Aka lawfully executed search warrant.
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2024-15-06
They seriously named themselves almost exactly the same as the term for Jamaican gangs lol.
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2024-15-06
You "don't shit about fuck" do ya?
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2024-15-06
Shareholders get to keep their house and stay out of jail. Most people who direct and fund crimes don't get to do that.
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> Not sure why analyzing rent data and pointing out the obvious is a crime. It's because RealPage was making recommendations using other landlords private rental data.
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$14? I was thinking $1.35 at best.
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We need a law , that if you operate in finance, utilities or medical. You have to have human customer service
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Must be a terrible bank with many very angry customers.
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The point that this technology misses is that sometimes anger is very justified, and you may be in a position where you have to force the person you're talking to do something about it. That doesn't mean you need to go to personal attacks, but when it's you or your loved one's health on the line, there is a point where it's justified for you to become a problem for them. Support reps may not have much power, but the person they're talking to usually has even less.
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It’s not my tone you should worry about, but my actual words that will cut through to your core as I deliver them with kind brutality.
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Or you might want to tackle the reason your customers are so infuriated with you. I have a lot of sympathy for support roles having done it way back in the day. And I had considerably more ability to take care of people too instead of this follow the script crap the worst do now. Best technique I've found for these situations where you need to chew on somebody with some power is ask the first level to give me to the manager they like the least. They laugh and are instantly sympathetic in my experience. The goal is to get to a decision maker anyway and that first level is not it. With the manager despite the implication of chewing on them, I'm polite and non-angrily tell them about the deficiency. A reasoned yet pointed interaction that makes it not personal means they're more likely to help as well. If they can't, then get it elevated again. I've ended up with the "executive action team" several times and usually you're going to get taken care of there but it means you have to sound and be reasonable.
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So when they use an overly nice voice to my anger screams Imma just calm down and not take it up a notch? Does it alter my profanity as well?
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This technology will be short lived as call centers will probably be full AI within a few years.
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Multiple things can be true. Customer service is not a monolith.
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Tbh if the reason your angry is something personal then the call center agent can't fix that either.
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I did retail at a cell phone store. It should count as a psychiatric student internship. Some of it is corporate not giving a shit, though. "The asshole customer is always right".
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2024-14-06
Why not offer better services so customers don't even have to call?
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2024-14-06
He sort of just remade the above poster's joke but with the subtlety taken away.
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Well, now we all know whose team you’re on!
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2024-14-06
Fix policies and ways of doing business that infuriate your customer base and traumatize your customers? Fuck that, let’s slap some AI “volume down” on those calls and RUN IT
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No? It actually costs less to not have a call center if your goal is to avoid customers at all costs.
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2024-15-06
Until then it’s black mirrors “Men Against Fire”
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It needs to just hang up on the screamer and close their account.
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Lowering the volume won't fix the issue. lol... Not the shitshow I wanna see.
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What a greaf way to dusconnect us even more!!
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AI game of telephone, “what, no I didn’t order a foxtrot carousel?!”
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Can I get one for my wife?
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Cool and dystopian all at once 
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Hope they realize they could make big bucks selling that, I for one would love having an AI soften my voice sometimes…
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Which is going to happen real soon according to some, but we’ll probably still use the best people for difficult cases and this might help a lot.
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I swear no customer just calls call center to get angry at the operators. From my experience lack of knowledge of their own system and plain stupidity. Once I spent hours trying to explain the operator that the two out of my three flight tickets were assigned the same seat. The operator simply couldn’t apprehend what was the problem. I spend hours explaining it like they were 5.
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Nah. Not in any way. Nav17’s joke was about AI, psilocybinenthusiast’s joke was about modems. Nav17’s comment has an air of pessimism and isn’t reaching full joke potential in the way it reads sucks the humor from my eye sockets. psilocybinenthusiast’s joke has tone and wit, and the way it’s written invites my eyes to easily lay on the words. Did you reply to the right comment? Are your eyes having trouble following the comment lines? If you would like, please explain how a joke about humans naming things and a joke about humans being lazy are the same?
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A long time ago I worked at a call center that implemented a system that rewarded people with a higher hourly rate if they got a certain number of calls per day. So everyone would just pretend they couldn't hear the customer and wait for them to hang up, or mute the call, or transfer them to another department (or even the same department)... You get the point. Other models are systems like rewarding higher numbers of ticket closings, or checkmarks for saying "rapport building lines", or selling a higher number of products. Any time a company implements some kind of game then people stop doing their jobs and play the game. It doesn't reward good behavior, the people who try to legitimately do their job get fucked, and the customers do too.
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