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The last T-Mobile rep I got was amazing! She was in the Philippines, but had only a very slight accent, understood what I wanted, knew right away how to make it happen, and stayed on the line with me until we were sure it was working correctly. The rep I got the day before was the typical outsourced disaster, but this lady was awesome. IDK who she is, but they need more of her, and she deserves a raise.
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2024-15-06
That’s amazing, but what would really be awesome is using it to scrub accents so call center reps can be understood. That might also help fix this issue. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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2024-14-06
If you are sooooo concerned about unintended consequences, what about the unintended consequences of having the private industry go completely unchecked?
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2024-14-06
What about a government left unchecked? Go look up SB961. Look I’m not saying don’t regulate but trusting complete political, non technical people will probably leave loopholes that will be exploited enabling Ai vendors work arounds. Sort of like knowing you need the three laws at minimum but only writing two of the three into law.
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2024-14-06
What about private corporations left unchecked?
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2024-14-06
In this case, it almost seems like big tech isn't panicked about this legislation, because it create an impossible to cross moat for open source competition.
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2024-15-06
There are competing ideas about laws to pass, like for example: * The effective altruists who believe that only large corporations can safely handle AI and that legislation needs to ban open source AI. * Reasonable folks who want to ensure medical uses and things of that nature are safe, but don't want to ban open source AI. * The safety folks who've never set foot in a library before and would be horrified to learn what sort of content is present on the shelves. Their actions basically amount to a sort of puritanical culture war, that is rehashing the past few decades of fights over academic/artistic freedom and access to information.
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2024-14-06
Maybe some sort of “Weekend at Bernie’s” situation could be set up. Or perhaps a fake hand. ;)
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2024-14-06
Should be illegal for employers to monitor employees like this.
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2024-14-06
Micromanagement at its finest. Micromanagement has never once succeeded in the long run ever, but it’s easy and it makes people think ur doing something about the problem.
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2024-14-06
Un approach.
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2024-15-06
Meanwhile over here: a company is forbidden by law to surveillance activity of its worker on computers
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2024-15-06
Well Fargo wants those keyboard simulations to real theft, so they fire them for not stealing. Is this any way to a bank?
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2024-15-06
Must be nice to be able to complete one’s deliverables in half the allotted time. In my situation, it’s more that my office will always have more work to do than it can. A lot of what we do is decide on what to prioritize.
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2024-17-06
Is it gloating to say that my supervisor and I have mutual trust and respect for each other?
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2024-14-06
They're doing a Boeing
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2024-14-06
I reported some massively homophobic and transphobic stuff a few months ago. I immediately received an email saying it was reviewed and no action taken. I'm talking I hit the submit button and then received the email notification. Pretty sure all "hate speech" reports just immediately spit out that result. It's slightly surprising Google and Apple haven't removed them from their stores yet due to the obvious lack of moderation.
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2024-14-06
Remember when reddit showed upvotes and downvotes? Yet we're all still here. We the sheeple have so few options, what's a sheep to do?
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2024-14-06
And as awful as it is, Twitter is also home to a lot of "official" kinds of pages for politicians, businesses/CEOs, etc. Save for a select few celebrities and some temporary AMA usernames, reddit does not serve that purpose.
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2024-14-06
That's just taking the fun out of Twitter
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2024-14-06
It just let's them promote a post as popular when it isn't popular.
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2024-14-06
Oh fuck off with this shit
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2024-14-06
Who the fuck is still on twitter in 2024 that’s not being paid to be on there? 😂
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2024-14-06
The level of importance of having likes on twitter doesn't even register on the things I should care about. weren't you all quitting the site anyways?
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2024-14-06
Now people can like more hate posts without consequences
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2024-15-06
Good. And reddit needs to hide all up/down votes and post history. Nothing is more annoying than nosey ass, clowns on social media.
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2024-15-06
Two parties. Both funded by the same companies. Any rational, unbiased, developed adult can see what happens over the years.
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Probably means, not allowing AI to affect society at a rate faster than society can control and adapt to its impact. While there may be designs that are anti-humanitarian in nature, like automated drone armies, that governments may employ. Governments should be more concerned, if AIs adoption causes massive layoffs in certain sectors of the economy. Layoff affects you and everyone that provides you a service, their employees, continuing downward until the money disappears.You pay taxes and fees, they pay taxes and fees... So now the state and federal Governments are missing money they need to maintain and grow their own infrastructures... This will work against those corporations who implemented it, by forcing governments to implement a hefty displaced worker tax, and BMI to workers who are affected by those layoffs.
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Ultimately you need to know your users. If they are going to delete things and then request for them to be restored later on then you need a soft delete with a retention period. If they are going to delete and then complain about missing data and claim they never deleted it then you need either a soft delete or an audit on deletion. If your users are going to be sensible and only delete when they really want to delete them then you can have a hard delete. So far I have never experienced users like this though.
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2024-14-06
"No worries I am sure we have a backup..." "Oh no, it has been too large for the backup and erroring for months." "Guys I am going to lunch and to get some milk, so long"
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2024-14-06
I have 6 devices actually - I didn’t include the vision pro or macbook air
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2024-14-06
That's fucked up, I hope he wins.
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2024-14-06
Yeah, wild most people seem unaware of this. 
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2024-14-06
I just hope this is a scam, whereby there was no real cheating, but. Fabrication, just to sue apple xD.
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2024-14-06
Sent my wife some naughty pics one time…. A deleted them after I sent them, and sure enough, there’s a “deleted” folder in pics…. Rofl. So it’s not deleting, it’s relocating them to a folder titled “deleted” rofl.
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2024-14-06
> the device tells the cloud service hey I have this data and you don't have it so I'll just sync it back into the cloud. Why wouldn't it store some hash on icloud with a deleted yes/no tag?
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2024-14-06
I’d argue it’s a lack of understanding of terminology in general; and that’s you.
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2024-14-06
No. The article says the messages were found on a separate device that it was synced to. So the messages were deleted on his device. He just doesn’t know how syncing works.
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2024-14-06
Seems fair to me.
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2024-14-06
I feel sorry for you if you have that mentality brother. My wife and I share everything together, even private conversations when the other one wasn't around... Just like you would with your best friend because she is my best friend. I hope you find something like that one day.
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2024-14-06
This is absolutely a case of "You're not wrong, you're just an asshole".
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2024-14-06
That’s not the only possibility. I have things on my Mac that can stay because I have more storage, don’t use it for messages that much. In my phone, I clean up more. I don’t want the Mac copy to be deleted. Somebody else suggested it ask you whether it should clear from all devices or just the one you’re on, and that’s the best approach. Easy and definitive.
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> Also the reality is more likely what you described, where it's just impractical to do a proper delete. Well, once you're not doing a proper delete anyway, its a very short reach to 'hey OS team can you also keep track of the deleted things that haven't been overwritten yet and provide a function to undelete them?' This is basically what the Windows recycle bin is.
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2024-14-06
As in delete your message from someone else’s device?
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2024-14-06
Too many comments don't understand how deleted data works. If Apple or any big company that is in data didn't offer ways to recovered deleted data people would be upset the opposite way. The only person here to blame is the guy who cheated on his wife. Don't want to be in trouble for cheating, don't cheat.
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2024-14-06
Eh you make it sound simple but apple products, other than the iPhone, are shit. Like living in a cage.
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2024-14-06
The bravery to just let your family see your texts. I bet they casually swipe through photos too.
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2024-14-06
I know from experience that deleting on my phone will not delete that conversation from my Mac. But I just checked and the message does say “This conversation will be deleted”. It is misleading. I recognize the technical challenges of ensuring deletion (what if it’s on a Mac that’s no longer connected to the internet?). But they clarify this when you unsend a message. They could do the same here.
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2024-14-06
There's a difference between openness with each other and zero boundaries. One is healthy, the other isn't.
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2024-14-06
Yes? For group chats. Obviously they could have been saved as screenshots not talking unreasonably here
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2024-14-06
“We take privacy seriously”-Apple
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2024-14-06
Lol 1st world problems for sure
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2024-14-06
Spoken like someone whose sits around and rejects PRs all day and doesn’t write any code. There are no other rate engineers, so I’ll take that as a compliment. Just because the technical problem has been solved, doesn’t mean it’s easy to implement in the code base. Especially one as large as the iOS. Of course if it was a regulatory issue it would be solved, but it’s not.
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2024-14-06
So…how do I permanently delete texts?
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2024-14-06
Sounds like they're already rich, article says he lost more than 5 million in the divorce
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2024-14-06
Lol 1st world problems
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2024-14-06
iMessage is end-to-end encrypted and can’t be seen by the carrier nor apple.
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2024-14-06
"Why is your chat with him deleted? Was it about me reading your messages?????" (it was)
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2024-14-06
Yeah going to hard disagree with that one. That should constitute data theft. It’s no different than sending someone a letter in the mail. Don’t send it if you don’t want to surrender ownership.
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2024-14-06
Yes, but that MAKES SENSE, and a lot of things apple does when it comes to iCloud and file management and syncing DONT make sense. You'd be asking too much of the average user for apple implement something like this.
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Correct. When you delete a message, you have a reasonable expectation that *it will be deleted*, not that it will be deleted kind of sort of but not really unless you go to another menu and click "Actually really for realsies super serious I mean it this time delete".
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I've broken off friendships with folks who operate like this. I don't mind being cool with their significant other, but when they start monitoring conversations or chiming in on discussions that don't include them... I'm like "peace out". Had an old friend who's wife messaged me out of the blue regarding why I didn't talk to her husband anymore. I was like..."Hey....when you let him be an adult again, maybe I'll talk to him, but chiming in on his number ain't cool".
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No this is not the thing it's like always having some one watching and analyzing everything yiu do "why did you say x", "what did yiu mean by y" its fucking insane to have someone always watching and checking on you like that. You atent "hiding your messages" just not having someone always reading and analyzing everything you do.
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It's a combination of poor understanding on the part of users and poor communication on the part of app developers. It depends on whether messages are all held on a central server and you are just seeing the contents of that server, (e.g. Telegram, Matrix) or whether the messages are stored on each individual device only (e.g. Signal, WhatsApp and I believe iMessage too). In the latter case, the app may allow 'delete everywhere' for a fixed period of time after sending a message but even that depends on devices being online and accepting such deletion commands.
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2024-14-06
Lol wow apple bois out in full force. Still don’t see an explanation to why someone would NEED this many devices. More like WANT
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2024-14-06
Ew lol oh goodness no
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Just tried this and it deleted from my phone but not my iPad. I have iMessages on all devices and there are synced. When I delete messages it only does it for one device. I’ve had this issue in my MacBook as well.
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2024-14-06
You are correct. Despite his behaviour , I think he’s got an actually decent shot at winning this.
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2024-14-06
*“You better run cause I’m gonna fuckin whoop that pussy tonight”*
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2024-14-06
I’m a developer, but I also love electronics.
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2024-14-06
The “fake” delete coined by apple has also been used by law enforcement to dig up evidence that was disposed of. But law enforcement is often shit. So there’s that.
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2024-14-06
Woah, critical thinking on Reddit.
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At&t will actually keep your texts logged for up to 7 years on their servers
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I have iCloud, all my devices have iMessage enabled and synced. If I delete messages it does not delete them off other devices.i have always had this issue and no amount of trouble shooting resolves it. It’s pretty common issue if you Google it.
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Or, is he wrong for the right reasons?
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Yup. It’s just strange. They also have no friends. Literally none. And our family has all been isolated.
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Pretty sure Narc is already taken for Narcotics Agent.
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The crazy part is that they probably can't understand why.
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You basically have to assume that privacy is minimal on computers and social media and easily pierced. People misplace their devices. Hackers break in. Cameras connected to the grid are everywhere too. So dont do anything "in secret" you dont want Mom to see on the evening news. In pre-computer days, adults would guilt children saying "God is watching you everywhere". Replace the word God by technology and you have the modern situation.
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We can criticize the man's action as long as we want to, but delete SHOULD mean delete, no matter the device/brand/settings you used. It could have been someone abused instead of someone cheating, so it's important that to make the behavior of the "delete button" clear.
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2024-14-06
That’s fucking creepy bro.
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2024-14-06
He's morally wrong. You can't sue for that Apple are morally AND contractually wrong. You can sue for that.
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You have to go to deleted txt and delete again
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2024-14-06
Yes, that's what they want you to think.
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I mean it is different, different tech makes it different. We can just disagree, people are free to save the data they want. It's not really *their* data if it's just in the group chat. I mean you could always just amend the program with a disclaimer that the messages are lent for your temporary use, as in it's never *your* data legally.
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Yup. Another simple case of stupid/user error. But ooh let’s blame someone else because it certainly couldn’t have been my stupid ass that doesn’t understand how to use technology.
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> While his situation is immorale to most, Apple's actions cannot be ignored I appriciate this is a top comment. I feel like ppl have been losing the ability to go "this is fucked up but they got a point" unless its a sexy villain in some tv show
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Delete hasn't meant Delete since computers had state memory. It's surprisingly difficult to completely clear data. Most of the time, it gets de-registered and allowed to be reused elsewhere. In order to truly wipe that data, you would need to overwrite everything.
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Teams is just as bad. Add someone to a Teams group and they can scroll through the entire chat history. Makes for some office awkwardness.
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> I will tip law enforcement agencies. tipping culture really is out of control
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2024-14-06
How does tech make it different?
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I care and I’m not in this post
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It depends on if she has custody of the children and if she was the primary bread winner. Believe it or not (you won’t, because you’re clearly too far down the hole), courts don’t always make decisions solely based on gender.
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