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that's the point. It's created a whole ecosystem of "legal pirating" that helps everyone (the labels, Spotify, the consumer) *but* the artist
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2024-05-06
My ex still pays my half of our family plan. If they ever realize it and boot me, I’m not gonna bother paying for my own account. Chances are I’ll get a free ride for a while. He had been paying for an Amazon prime account for over a year but using my prime account instead. Somehow, it was *my* fault he was paying for an account he wants using. Re: ex.
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2024-05-06
Well, yeah... Do you actually think a corporation cares about your thoughts over those of it's investors?
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2024-05-06
Yeah but they seem to have kept everything in tact for the most part thankfully.
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2024-05-06
It’s gross how they endorsed Rogan’s content. Dude spreads so much bigotry. He literally supports Alex Jones
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2024-05-06
> but they don't want to pay enough to support it What do you consider enough?
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2024-05-06
I used to feel the same until I realized for pretty much the same amount of money I can get all the music I want AND no ads on YouTube as well.
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2024-05-06
I personally love Apple Music. I totally get people that don’t like Apple, but it works for me.
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2024-05-06
Spotify is my favourite app I’ve ever used. I’ve found literally thousands of artists over the years that I never would’ve found without their algorithms. I also actually like the UI and the new features that come out - the blends, jams, I’m all here for it
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2024-05-06
Some people got that TDS real bad
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2024-05-06
No user generated playlists. You can use tidal's public playlists and can't control it from your phone. It's very 2015.
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2024-05-06
I just switched from pandora… you can’t even tell it to play a song with Siri while you’re driving what gives
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2024-05-06
Uh, no, I want to pay a monthly fee to avoid ads. I have no problems with paying for a service.
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2024-05-06
Only difference to me was that the DJ shuffled better than the Spotify shuffle LOL. I'm probably going to YT music because of the Spotify Family increase since i'll also get ad free YT included. The create radio from a song feature on YT is worse but the shuffle does seem better. I hate that I cannot set a custom image for a playlist though.
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2024-05-06
Which songs are "sold at a loss"?
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2024-05-06
Start hosting your own shit. I haven't paid for a streaming service in years, own every comic book ever printed, 10k books, 2k audio books, 100k+ songs, every video game ever made up until PS2. All on two computers. They fit on one, but I have a backup in case of failure. If you think the enshittification of everything is over you are high. Once that next big thing reaches critical mass they will make that worse and charge more for it too.
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2024-05-06
No idea why someone downvoted you, I switched a few months back and in some aspects I prefer YouTube music.
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2024-05-06
[www.plex.tv](http://www.plex.tv) -- self host your music collection and stream it to any device. Rip cd's from the library, buy cd's and digital music. Add audio books. Use PlexAmp phone app for audio listening. You can, also, upload your music to youtube music for free and just listen to your music without ads.
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2024-05-06
I have never used them and will never use them
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2024-05-06
Personally, I don't understand why anyone would pay for streaming music. I mean, music and musicians are 20 dozen to a penny. There's radio, world radio, internet radio, free Youtube, yada, yada, yada. If I like an artist enough, then I'll support them through going to their concerts or buying their mp3/flac through their Bandcamp or something. But that's pretty rare. I don't need to pay to have a playlist, discover music or whatever. Music has always been free. You all are the ones shoveling money to this unchecked greed and capitalism that's exploded in the tech world.
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2024-05-06
Lmao no, customers don’t want to pay musicians. All customers has to do was pay full price, they won’t so we got streaming.
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2024-05-06
Still worth paying for, Spotify will be the last subscription I cancel.
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2024-05-06
spotify is great as a platform tho
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2024-05-06
What is with this "100% of layoffs are 100% evil" stuff that's all over Reddit?
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2024-05-06
Found the spotify bot
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2024-05-06
I’ll just go back to pirating like I did before the music streaming.
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2024-05-06
*You* would be willing to pay more, but the majority won't. Only solution would be exclusivity contracts, which sucks for the consumers. In the end it could turn into one of those "be careful what you wish for" situations, make it too expensive or complicated and you might push people to piracy.
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2024-05-06
I want a raise every year too (I actually get 2, but whatever)! I suppose my boss should be "angry" with me too. And the tax payers as well since I work for the government. (I'm pretty overpaid for how little I have to do honestly, but :) ).
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2024-05-06
Spotify was such an awesome app on mid to late 2010s and now it feels absolutely soulless.
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2024-05-06
If you go to the settings and delete the cache the shuffle will work immensely better
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2024-05-06
They took bento design and made it even more chaotic.
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2024-05-06
Line go up. That’s all that matters
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2024-05-06
Absolutely! It’s completely and utterly unsustainable. How are you going to get money from the public if the public is too damn poor to afford your products? This is where this country is headed.
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2024-05-06
He singlehandedly spread the litter boxes in schools rumor. People were screaming at school boards bc of shit he said
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2024-05-06
TIDAL. It's like Spotify, but it pays the artists better, has almost the same library, and costs about the same. AND it has better sound quality (FLAC).
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2024-05-06
It’s called Apple Music
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2024-05-06
I switched to Tidal and can confirm it’s much better.
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2024-05-06
I think you are missing the point. It is not that a stockholder or CEO believes in infinite growth. It is that is the incentive structure.  The stock price going up makes the stock holder and CEO money. If you can maximize your bonus you while you are at a company, you will. This isnt about economic principles. Its about making money quickly, before you leave the company or sell the stock. The idea that you think they dont know that is absurd, if you think about it.
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2024-05-06
Which makes perfect sense. First, the most profit is made by capturing market share, once you can no longer grow the amount of customers you must grow the profit from existing customers, and when that's no longer possible you cut down on expenses. Then another competitor will surpass you and the cycle begins anew.  If you do not aim to grow, there's no reason to invest in you. This drive to grow is also what spurs competition, and is a big reason why our quality of life is better than any royalty in the past. In theory a company could stop after maximizing market share and be a profitable but stagnating company that's driven more so for ego (or altruism) than profit. However, that more or less requires the owners to have an ideological disposition (so likely a private company or someone with a controlling share of a public company).
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2024-05-06
It’s a bit like game monetization. Yeah, microtransactions suck. But you basically had to pay the equivalent of like $50 per hour to play games at arcades so compared to those “macrotransactions” a dumb skin you don’t even have to buy looks pretty good
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2024-05-06
No one is charging enough money to support artist on unlimited streaming.
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2024-05-06
It is so strange to hear people complain about Spotify in 2024. We had all of these conversations almost 15 years ago and it turns out that nobody was able to do anything about it. But $15 to get access to all that music? Nobody has come close to what Spotify offers. Artists need to pull it all from Spotify, let it die, and move to a better platform. But they won't, just like they didn't last time.
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2024-05-06
Enjoy Spotify then. I have hifi equipment and Spotify sounds like crap compared to Apple Music and my lossless media. you’re paying more and more, and they also rip off artists
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2024-05-06
Like, why don't people use Pandora? I've been using it forever, I even tried Spotify for a month and was "no thanks".
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2024-05-06
"Hasn't taken a salary" is a deceptive phrase when you are getting paid hundreds of millions.
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2024-05-06
What's wrong with Pandora?
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2024-05-06
#comprehensioncheckfail
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2024-05-06
I've gone back to MP3s. Glad I saved all of my cdrips from the past decades. 80k + songs on a drive. Spotify can lick my taint.
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2024-05-06
Charge who, artists? Distrokid, among many others at this point, can get music published to Spotify pretty cheap.
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2024-05-06
Right? Why isn't it enough to make 20% profit every year? Why does it always have to be more, more, more?
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2024-05-06
You can. You have to set Spotify as the default music app.
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2024-05-06
Also turn off Auto mix while you're in there.
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2024-05-06
Ill give it a shot.
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2024-05-06
IIRC Spotify implemented podcasts around the same time AM rolled out hi-res (or lossless? whatever it was they marketed it heavy). I was disgruntled w/ Spotify and AM was the same price, so I migrated everything. Much preferred Spotify’s UI to AM’s but could live with it. Then I found out the big lossless/hi-res feature wasn’t supported via Bluetooth - all my speakers and headphones are BT, so there was really not value. Is that still the case? For one i don’t think I’d even be able to tell the difference in a vacuum, and if none of my devices support it it’s not a difference maker.
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2024-05-06
Because I want to pick the songs.
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2024-05-06
Seems likely. Given if you ask for or like say Rumors which my wife did she gets the non album versions of every song. The six different pre takes or b sides of Break the Chain or Second Hand News.
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2024-05-06
And can take out loans against held stock, even if they never sell
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2024-05-06
It's all just speculative investing. Spotify currently has a Market cap of $65B - is there any possible way the Spotify could earn $65B? Of course not - if every single man, woman, and child on earth subscribed to Spotify you might get close though. . . but how reasonable is that? Share pricing is based on what the market views as the potential for profit - within the traded share price - in certain time period - short term, long term, etc - but it's not really based on any actual earning potential of the underling product produced. The product, itself, typically only has a nominal relation to share price. Again, if the focus on the company is increasing share price - or "shareholder value" - then the end product to the consumer will always be secondary within company strategy and operations. The actual product - which has exchangeable value - is the Share.
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2024-05-06
And yet before spotify, the artists weren't gettting paid per listen the way they do with it. I knwo the numbers are small, and i'm not saying it's fair to the artists, but for a ton of bigger artists they're making money they were never going to make otherwise with the old model.
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2024-05-06
ITT: Spotify subscribers
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2024-05-06
Musicians haven’t had a fair deal since the Stone Age. Spotify never was and will never be the revolutionary streaming service that deals fairly with musicians. Tidal is better.
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2024-05-06
They should charge $50,000/yr per listener per band member, so every artist with even a single listener can support themselves
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2024-05-06
I bought a month of Songshift for $7 and did it with all my playlists.
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2024-05-06
Spotify announces hifi in 2020. Apple includes it at no extra cost, and Spotify cancels hifi and pays Joe Rogan millions instead. There are hi res options over Bluetooth. It’s even literally baked into android
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2024-05-06
Well, I don't think it's all that weird to call you out as entitled. Spotify has been operating at a loss for a decade, subsidizing your access to music with someone else's dime.  Obviously you're free to complain, but he has a point. Especially if you're one of the people complaining about Spotify not paying artists enough (the gall of some people simultaneously complaining about Spotify raising prices and not paying artists enough...)
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2024-05-06
Joe Rogan is to Spotify what Howard stern was to Sirius. Nothing against either of them, they are just harbingers of what is to come.
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2024-05-06
Gouging😂😂😂 they upped prices by a dollar. So melodramatic 😂😂
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2024-05-06
Corporate greed at its finest 💙😎✌️
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2024-05-06
Spotify's AI DJ could be incredible if they used their fucking brains and had it utilize the "Fans also like" tab instead of playing the same 30 songs!!!
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2024-05-06
#allshareholdersmatter
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2024-05-06
Use Apple Music and YouTube Music..not sure if they are better, but work well, and included in my subscriptions.
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2024-05-06
Bruh what does that have to do with spotify. This isnt a political issue. Holy sheet
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2024-05-06
Started my 30 day free trial of Apple Music today. I have had spotify for years. Family plan, But i just dont want to do it anymore. $20/month and none of that increase is going to artists. Its going to pay Joe Rogan and let them do shady shit like make a quick "audio book only" tier so they can reclassify their product as an "Audiobook bundle" to pay less in music royalties.
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2024-05-06
or cds from clueless yard sellers -Billy Gnosis
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2024-05-06
Why don’t you just run along and fuck off then??????
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2024-05-06
Yeah and it's an annoying thing that will only affect streaming services, like spotify. Edit: a comma
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2024-05-06
yeah 100% agreed. millennial? i was saying in another comment that artists getting screwed over is nothing new either- at least with spotify you have the opportunity to hear pretty much all of them. when big labels were in control it was damn difficult to find small indie artists unless you were in the 'scene'
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2024-05-06
And I get access to a bunch of 1+ hour long mixes. Which is perfect for lofi.
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2024-05-06
Remember when everyone was boycotting because of Joe Rogan, then Spotify paid him to do a podcast? And how everyone forgot and still uses Spotify? Yeah, why
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2024-05-06
It doesnt. I used to used amazon music and songs would get pulled all the time. Same with apple music. It affects any company that wants to use the music
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2024-05-06
Pandora used to be streaming radio only, people don't know they expanded to include playlists and picking songs (if you pay, same as Spotify.)
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2024-05-06
Aww did i hurt your fee-fees by exposing your brain rot. Youll get over it
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2024-05-06
This can go on all day
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2024-05-06
1. Stealing from musicians. You should be paying way more.
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2024-05-06
Hold strong!
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2024-05-06
Aside from the Release Radar playlist I don't give a flying fuck about Spotify and would jump to another platform. I just don't know which ones are worth it. Considering YT Music since I do YT Premium.
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2024-05-06
What is also true within that statement is the fact that the price has increased the last two years in a row. Ultimately, I just think people are concerned that yearly increases are becoming the norm.
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2024-05-06
Joe Rogan is a NAZI that’s trying to steal a superpower
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2024-05-06
There’s a playlist called Millennial Mixtape that is absolutely rad.
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2024-05-06
Proud user of cracked Spotify found on xmanager. Have never paid a cent . As spofity doesn't pay artists besides mega pop stars. But each time you play a song even in cracked version at least you are adding plays to the artist giving them 0.002 cents.
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2024-05-06
Its can but youre the one whining and spouting off dumb shit. Its more entertainment than anything for me
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2024-05-06
As soon as Amazon bought them it was game over. Stockholders are the only thing that matters in the rainforest.
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2024-05-06
NFTs still could people are just scared of actually using them. If a platform like spotify added NFT support and hid them behind their UI artists could make way more money and individuals could have actual ownership of albums again in a non physical format.
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2024-05-06
😂😂😂 take your meds homie
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2024-05-06
Exactly and I’m having fun getting in the last word
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2024-05-06
They don't even have exclusive rights to Taylor's music. They just pay her more per stream than other artists.
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2024-05-06
I guess you’re an election stealing NAZI too
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2024-05-06
No, those go to the labels.
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2024-05-06
apple music is significantly better unfortunately. I'm happy to root for the "little" guy but apple music is just objectively better in terms of station generations/playlist mixes/app design. Everything is far beyond spotify.
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2024-05-06
Wake me up when they have fixed shuffle. Until then, no interest.
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