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> Overall Lepen way more dangerous if she stays in opposition than if she actualy gets prime minister.
??? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
And the right don't listen to anything that's said after that. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
The UK isn't lurching left. No-one really wants a Labour government, we know they will be a disaster, but we really, really don't want the Conservatives led by Sunak and Hunt the Cunt. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
in what way? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
The president is still largely in charge of foreign policy. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
I didn't say we're lurching left, my point is that every single time Europe goes hard right we get a left/centre left government in the UK. Its one of the reasons why our relationship with Europe was always a bit fractious - the UK and Europe almost never align politically | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
As soon as the Tories get a leader that seems vaguely competent, theyll be right back in there shitting all over everything again. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
US GDP is $26trillion, they can afford it all, they just choose not to. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
I was hoping for slightly more detail than "ask anyone, they will know".
Yes, I've heard that it was disastrous. But none of the usual markers or metrics seem to actually bear that out. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
That huge push in immigration from the Middle East was spearheadedin large part by Angela Merkel, and would you look at that it was just revealed she covered up that Russia could use gas to blackmail Europe.
Let me put my tinfoil hat on for a moment and say that I think she was a Russian sleeper asset, or at least a Russian sympathizer. I think Russia has its hands in significantly more European affairs than most believe. Isn't it also ironic that Europe forfeited its energy independence instead relying heavily on Russian gas and oil in a bid to lower their own emissions? Thus helping Russia further their petrol state. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
you're just doing the thing that he said doesn't work because of how stupid it is lol. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Being prime minister under cohabitation is a poisonous gift.
You can't do anything because to many people/institution can block you, and you only end up looking weak and useless which usualy costs you your political carrier, ask Balladur and Jospin about it.
The only one that actually figured it out was Chirac, which after being fucked by it in 86-88, refuse the position in 93, so that he could win in 95... and it worked.
So overall Lepen has way bigger chance to be elected in 2027 if she stays in opposition and capitalise on Macron mistakes, than if she takes power now and starts to have to deal with the consequences of her politics.
RN, just like LFI, are populist party and present themselves as messiah. What usualy happends with those parties is that as soon as they actualy get power and people actualy see what do when in power, they fall back for 10 years or so. Already happend twice for FN, which was the old name of RN.
So giving prime minister to RN isn't that stupid. It would give a taste of RN politics to the french in a safe guard environnement, whereas if LePen wins in 2027 with never having exerce power at national level before it's the unknown.
Is RN somekind of new gaulism like they try to portray themselves or are they fascists/xenophobe like the ext-left depicts them ? Giving them limited power under a cohabitation would be a good way to figure it out.
And this is the worst case scenario, because I would be very surprised if their score isn't halves between europeans election and parlementary one, since the election process for parlement doesn't favours ext parties, like the european one does.
What will most likely happend is Macron loosing, but RN not winning and some sort of coalition would need to be found. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
“Interventionism only when it suits you”
Point to a current (last 5 years) right wing pro-war stance. It’s been the establishment left that’s been the party of war in the 21st century.
The Right’s Domestic and foreign stance can be boiled down to the axiom ‘live and let live’ libertarianism by way of national unity and strength. Ask yourself if the western world is more or less unified after 20 years of neo-liberalism rule? Why has racial division increased? Has western imperialism and interventionism increased or decreased? At some point you should take a step back and think if your ideal world has got closer or further away under the current regime. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
French right wing is basically on Putin payroll | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
The problem is that the center/center left parties need the protestors votes in order to oppose the right | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
>We are leaving through a time of change, tides turn, and they do it fast. Recession, wars, inflation, climate, the greatest ever gap between the richests and the poor. Partially as a consequence, immigration.
Although you are not wrong, your analyse is missing something which might sound rather cynical. Reliable sources in the Netherlands (CBS) has shown that more than 50% of the refugees who received a residence permit did not find a job in 5 years. While migrant workers (who also don't know the Dutch language) always manage to find a job. Our constitution makes sure that all residents are entitled to welfare benefits (if their income is low), so there is little you can do.
The big difference is that a migrant worker is not entitled to social welfare benefits (not actual residents, just migrant workers), and refugees with a residence permit are entitled to those benefits.
So tldr; refugees can easily live of welfare benefits and get nearly free housing in the western European countries, and reliable sources confirm that this happens in large numbers. Many people see this as a form of "abuse" of our social welfare system. Besides that, there's quite a number of people who are not actual refugees but still try their luck. If they fail to get a residence permit they don't leave the country and start to become an annoyance on the streets. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
The Liberal Party last held a majority in 1916, and the party was dissolved in 1988, so I doubt that's a popular viewpoint. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
“We should put the boot down on these protests”
How democracy of you | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
It’s the boogeyman that never fails with their base. Instead of thinking maybe they and their policies are wrong and unpopular | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Do you even hear irony of what you just said?
“You have to vote liberal to be a patriot” | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Tell me you're a nazi bitch without telling me you're a nazi bitch. Fuck you. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
I mean the same people you mean. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Well the big issue with european election is that most french consider the EU parlement as useless and incompetant... and recent history conforted them in that belief.
Would it be for the Muslim Brotherhood campaign "freedom in Hijab" paid by EU funds or the Scott Morton innuendo, EU parlement didn't do shit and Macron had to step in each time under *french* parlement pressure... not the EU one.
As long as EU parlement will stay consensual and only wakes up after national one does, they will not be taken seriously.
Right now EU parlement looks more as an institution who only goal is to impose it self to nation within EU than actualy control, discuss and debat what they are actually pushing upon them.
This, to me, is what I believe is responsible for the populist rise all over EU. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
What in the fuck are you talking about Macron being left | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
I have no idea why the conservatives are perceived that way. They’ve made zero statements about what they would do for immigration and historically have greatly expanded the tfw program etc. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
>compared to America politics he left wing.
Who even mentioned America? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Ignorance is bliss and yours is shining brightly. Society around me is all just like me and we're just waiting for the cleansing of the filth that has permeated our government on both sides of the aisle. We see great hope in the cleansing that is taking place all across the world right now and as far as I know, Italy, Argentina, France, Belgium, Austria, Germany and the Netherlands are all part of the big movement. It's people like you who are unable to survive on your own who will fizzle out. The rest of us are the survivors. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Would that really change anything? I didn't go vote but if I did I would have voted for the party that won anyway (far right). I don't really see how this changes anything | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
It’s easy to be appear innocent when your account is… 7 days old…
I’ll bite. Yes, I am open to a conversation. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Would that mean an end to France's support of Ukraine because Le Pen's party can block it indefinitely? Or could Macron still negotiate or work around it? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
And you say we live in a fantasy. 🙄 I'm sure you're about to take over the world when you can't even win elections without rigging them. You know, like all those convicted Republicans caught tampering with votes. The thing they accuse the left of doing. Your projection issue is getting old and transparent. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
And I am sure he is backed by major corporations but so is JT to make our population higher but the housing crisis here in Toronto is fucking insane. I hate the fact that there are so many homeless people or people struggling to keep roofs over their heads because of the rent.
I personally hate the Conservatives as a whole myself but we don’t need both especially the conservatives. We are in for a rough few years with both. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Because what you seem to be saying is that they won't be able to to anything even if they get PM, which will cause them to lose power next time. Not because of their policies, but because they CAN'T do any of their policies, which seems to be the reason for macron's strategy in the first place | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Yeah, you're right. Macron also had no choice. He was losing support fast and could lose a vote of confidence in parliament later this year. By calling elections now he hopes that it will at least weaken a Le Pen victory and in turn the amount of seats they gain. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
The problem is different in every country. I think many countries have a housing cost problem because of inflation, shortages, urbanization, etc. The Netherland straight up doesn't have enough homes for the population. The cost of homes is a related but seperate problem to that. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
sadly I do agree with the immigration restrictions myself but neither party are basically "reduce immigration to 0.10% or 1% of the population for a few years while we sort out our PR and non-PR issues and to slow down the housing bubble approaching the bursting point" because that's political suicide apparently. and no one wants to vote NDP. I wish Canada had given the NDP chances to govern. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
"Vote for the establishment or Putin wins." Shut up.
Take your lazy reductivist bullshit and cram it up your poop chute. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Or China which funds bot wings...https://www.politico.eu/newsletter/china-watcher/china-courts-eus-far-right-and-far-left/ | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
What's this? Nuance? But...but...but...Russia! If you vote outside the establishment you're supporting Russia! Won't somebody please think of the Ukrainian children???!?!
*Faints on nearest couch* | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
labour is more centrist these days, prob ever so slight leaning right.
but just an fyi, the right wing in the UK is not like the right win in USA. to put it in percepective the Democrats would be considered right win the the UK. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Why good luck?
Far-right parties, including the french RN, are composed of, supported by and therefore vote in favor of the capitalist elite. Their cheap populism is just that, once elected we have seen with Italy already that they are the very opposite of a "party of the people". | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
When, not if. He's been elected twice on the basis of "it's me or the far right". Well, people have been so sick of him they've been voting to the far right. Our best hope is for our left to be smart for once and offer a single candidate per circumscription so they can be within shouting distance of the RN. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Funny how people talk about a shitshow when we have a pretty good dynamic compared to other Europeans countries. Inflation came but not as high as others, Covid was well handled economic wise 🤷♂️ | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
In Belgium it's mandatory | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Yeah I know, I'm british (p.s I hope the BWFC part of your username is for the wanderers...but let's not talk about Wembley) | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Everyone pretending like this is a good idea has again forgotten that the people who vote for far-right parties do not do so based on reason but purely out of hatred for the designated "other".
Bardella has gotten his ass handed to him in every single interaction he's had with a representative of any other party since the EU campaign started, showing on prime-time television that he is beyond incompetent and YET support for him kept on going up.
That is why countries like Belgium forbid hate-speech parties from even appearing on TV/radio. Once you give them a platform you have already lost, no matter how they use said platform. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
It's kinda funny how brexit worked out to be a sort of pressure release valve for political radicalisation. After it happened, the growing far-right absolutely tanked (still a very strong right-wing presence here with the tories, but not to the level of far-right parties/groups)
Whereas other places in the EU have just seen a gradual growth in the far-right every year
Still a stupid as fuck decision to leave, but let me snort at least one silver line of copium lmao | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Radical capitalism will only lead to a minority oppressing the majority.
Concentrating wealth and power to a small elite, without democratic mechanisms to counter their influence, will end up leading to an oligarchic form of government, even if unofficially.
If you want to guard against oppression, [Rechtsstaat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rechtsstaat) principles will be a better choice. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
This is essentially what happened with Brexit. Tory’s were playing brinkmanship and shit the bed. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Rob Ford was a crack smoking mayor who drove drunk with his kids in the back. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
So my point is there is no solution from the mainstream parties only snide remarks and telling people it's not an issue and if you think it is you're a racist or fascist. So where else will these people go? The only ones telling them solutions to their issues is these groups.
I don't believe all these people have suddenly become racist | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Exactly, there's hope. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Funny enough this kind of reduction of it to ''Were better, they're stupid peasants and their worries dont matter or arent even real'' is how it happened.
Your attitude is a very key factor into how it happened, hope you're happy. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
>Population is not shrinking anywhere.
This is objectively incorrect. I don't know where you're getting your information from but you're wrong, plain and simple.
Japan's birth rate is below replacement level and population topped out in the late 2000s and has dropped by *millions* since then. Russia's population started shrinking in the 90s, had a time period of recovery, and now it's in decline again. They're currently several million people below the peak population.
South Korea's fertility rate is even lower than Japan's, and its population just started decreasing in the last few years.
Several countries even in Europe have the same problem. Italy's population started shrinking about a decade ago. Portugal's population was declining for several years around the same time Japan's started (it's now in recovery but is still lower than peak). Spain had a period of population decline in the 2010s. Greece has a lowering population for almost 15 years now.
Taiwan. China. Thailand. Several Balkan and post-soviet states. All of these countries are actively shrinking.
There's a whole [Wikipedia page](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_decline) about this. Feel free to read up on it. Feel free to acknowledge that you were incorrect as well! | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
They need to fix their own countries. Personal responsibility and all that. We can't fit half the world into our own countries. Especially when they want to bring what turned their own countries into the messes they running away from. Amazes me how people shit on the west but then acknowledge how much worse it is where the refugees are coming from. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
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That far left policies do far more to destabilize the world. Why doesn't Putin pull this shit when Republicans hold the Presidency? Putin is socially conservative but the government's overbearing control of the government is more leftist socialism than limited government right. He is what the left wants to paint the American Right to be and they couldn't be more wrong. Didn't see the dumbass part until the end because I thought it was a conversation you petty cunt. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
I didn't say that? Just because the right is destabilising Europe now doesn't mean they always have or always will.
Anti immigration used to be for the left and pro for the right, now it's the other way around.
I think the whole left and right stuff is bullshit. It's putting people against each other through tribalism. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
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Poland doing the lords work, especially since like 30% of US senators are enamored of Russia or just outright assets. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
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It’s sort of genius. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
In Germany they call it the Hindenburg Special. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Well the benefit for Macron is that he stays president no matter what the result of elections is. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Talk about Rue Britannia. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Macron was always nothing if not brilliant. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
"I have a cunning plan!"
- David "Baldrick" Cameron | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
He's probably betting on a combination of 2 and 3, because some center-left people who reluctantly accepted the NUPES coalition in 2022 (people like Glucksmann for example) will likely refuse it this time and rally a pro-EU, liberal alliance | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
The reason why we should stick together even further | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Macron was like: Fuck it, you think you got what it takes? Then come get it. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Isn't this like, somewhat undemocratic move on its own? I get it is in his power to do so, but as a non-French person this seems like "I disagree with my party losing in a legitimate election, so I'll dissolve the parliament". Not just that but I don't see how the outcome would be different, if anything I could see him faring even worse because of this move | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Is burning the Reichstag an option if they're supported by military and police ?
Or in 2024 with Europe and allied forces it's impossible | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
There's been whispers of Macron floating the idea of resigning doing the rounds amongst political insiders for a few weeks now.
The logic being that it would legally enable him to target the next presidential election. Edit: Until tonight nobody really paid those rumours much attention but I have the feeling that's about to change.
Having le Pen or some other brownshirt in power would definitely facilitate an hypothetical comeback as the statemanlike saviour of our democracy or some bullshit to that effect.
It's not the likeliest of scenarios but the guy is so cynical and full of himself it's at least plausible. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Didnt help that pro brexit just ran campaign of pure lies based on nothing but made up numbers which the plebs ate up. Not sure how you can combat that when average joe only eats soundbites and has 0 critical thinking ability | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
That may have worked before in France, but in recent years right wing billionaires have been buying up all the media (à la Murdoch or the Sinclair group in the States) and turning them into far right mouthpieces.
If you use the US or UK as examples, extensive dishonest right wing media covering for the right keeps them from facing political consequences. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Democracy that cant protect itself is just wating for its doom. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Not clever, just cynical af. Once fascism gets its foot in the door, it won't leave by itself. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
The current theory I read from the French on other subreddits is that Macron is gambling that letting the far-right try and govern in the parliament will show how incompetent they are when they aren't in opposition. The French have a semi-presidential system and the president tends to wield quite a bit a of power (Macron is in office until 2027 IIRC) so if the far-right get into parliament then he will be able to kind of reign them in. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Macron is no Jeremy Clarkson, I'm afraid | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
And what will happen if the RN win the legislature? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
How far up your own arse and political delusion do you need to be to believe that bombing Syria and the refugee crisis comes from Russia ? Jesus Christ...
It's the US (and France) that bombed Libya and started the refugee crisis, it's the US that armed islamist groups in their regional struggle against Syria, Irak and Iran, and it's Europe and the left that have been letting the refugees in. What the f\*ck does Russia have to do with that ?!
If the far-right is progressing in Europe it's because national governments and the EU have been dealing with immigration in a horrible way and people are fed up with it. And instead of looking at reality you would rather blame the Russians for it. Will you blame the rain on Russia as well ?
I don't give a damn about Russia, for all I care the US and Russia can go to hell, what I care about is my country becoming a shithole because of decades of bad government and delusional people like you. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Seriously. How far does Putin has his claws into Europe? With Trump winning the election in October and the imminent resource crisis I fully expect a Molotov-Ribbentrop pact between Trump and Putin/China regardin the whole of Europe and Taiwan. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Cameron was going to delay the referendum until the last moment at which point remain would have likely won given how the age disparity on the voting went.
Amusingly the only reason it came so early was that John Bercow allowed the ERG to force a referendum bill onto the agenda. Given how much the ERG hate John Bercow it is amusing that Brexit probably wouldn't have happened without him. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
He doesn't have a majority in the national assembly, so his hands are already tied, kinda. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Politicians are stupid as fuck. There i fixed it for you. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
It's clever if it works, but when it doesn't it will be yet another example of neoliberal centrists essentially handing the reigns of power over the fascists. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Macron will be remembered for having the stones to stand up to Mr. Poostain! | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
*Blackadder | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
Obviously people cannot always say that because there has not been a snap national election held immediately after EU vote in France before. Something that is happening for the first time cannot be different or the same, it is be definition unique. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
French Presidential and parliamentary elections are separate, and the president appoints the prime minister. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
“I’m not the idiot!!! Everyone else is, they don’t understand!!! Every single person who’s opinion is different from mine is wrong because my opinion is absolute!!!” -You, probably | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-16-06 |
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Banning books and same sex marriage is unjust. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-10-06 |
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