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re dumbest automotive concepts of all time in article c hqj unix amherst edu bhtulin unix amherst edu barak h tulin gives forth i just started reading this thread today so forgive me if it has already been mentioned but what was the deal with renault s putting the horn on the left hand turn signal stalk it was a button on the end where the washer button would be on the wiper washer stalk could the frenchies not figure out the wiring through the steering wheel or what had an alliance for a long time it was a comfortable but sluggish car i got very used to the horn on the stalk after a couple months worth of getting used to it after i bought my next car a chevy it took me for ever to get used to the horn on the steering wheel again jim grey jwg acd acd com up the irons
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re it s a rush was re too fast in a previous article crh regent e technik tu muenchen dbp de christian huebner says brad buck viewlogic com bradford kellogg writes i think he s talking about a different form of rush evidently it s fun to be terrified but hey if you want that kind of rush try bobsledding you may only get up to or so but it makes in a car feel like a stroll in the park why should a good driver be terrified at mph the only thing i fear going at are drivers who switch to the left lane without using either rear view mirror or flashers doing to ain t a rush for me but it s fun and i get where i want to go much faster but in one point you are quite right if you are terrified at you should better not drive that fast or you ll be a hazard to others btw before you flame me read my e mail address i know what i m talking about as i live in germany bk chris crh regent e technik tu muenchen de not a flame just a point i d be scared at here not because i feel i or my car couldn t handle it but because of exactly what you said drivers who are stupid like the ones who are doing also and so they pull in right behind you at maybe car lengths oh yeah real smart this scares me in cities at when i can t see enough of the car to make it recognizable they are following too close and when i see them doing this and reading a newspaper sigh this is why america has speed limits our drivers are too dumb to realise that reading the paper should be done at breakfast or work not in their car my thoughts drew
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re car buying story was christ another dealer service scam in article apr slcs slb com dcd se houston geoquest slb com dan day writes relates an experience similar to mine then comes the part i wish i could have videotaped as we go out the front door the sales manager shouts across the entire showroom customers and all go ahead you deserve to buy a nissan so my friend bought a sentra this kind of behavior is what i was shocked by in my experience for crying out loud how do these turkeys think they can talk to customers this way and still stay in business again i don t expect sales people to bow scrape and grovel in my presence but i sure don t expect to be abused either i was very surprised by the way the sales people talked to me and in other negotiating sessions i overheard in neighboring sales cubicles evidently their success rate is high enough that they continue to do business this way there must be a lot of people out there who are easy to intimidate on the other hand i m not sure about the one price no haggling approach that saturn and other are starting to use i guess if their fixed price is fair it s ok maybe the best approach is to do your homework before you go in find out the invoice prices of the car add a reasonable profit for the dealer offer them that price and stick to it if they get abusive just leave then don t let them try to screw you after the deal is agreed on mark
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re braindead drivers who don t look ahead in article apr cbnewsd cb att com hhm cbnewsd cb att com herschel h mayo writes well i guess i know for sure what i meant and it is this i don t know where you drive but around here freeways are often clogged solid with large packs of semis trucks and cars of all descriptions when i close on one of these rolling clusterf s on the highway i have no desire to add my vehicle to this rolling accident looking for a place to happen if there were any way to pass it i would be passing myself however i can t as i posted before all it takes is a blown tire or some moron tramping on the brakes to turn this pack into a cloud of shredded metal flying glass and burning vehicles i want to maintain enough free space between myself and this mess to at least have a minimal chance to avoid a mass crash that means maintaining a clear space between me and it however there is no end of shortdriving morons who are dying to pass so they can add themselves and their car to the bodycount that wouldn t bother me so much except that after letting enough of these morons pass me and glue themselves to the pack ahead my interval is filled up trying to back off further does not work because the road behind me has filled up trapping my car right into an ever increasing pack now if there was any slight possibility that there was a lane open ahead i d be glad to move over but there usually is no way in hell that anybody is going anywhere so i block the would be passers not only for my own good but theirs as well even though they are often too stupid to realize it just an comment i don t like it when people decide what s good for me if you think you re going to decide anything for me you d better be carrying a badge and a gun who made you capable of determining if there is no way in hell that anybody is going anywhere why do you find it necessary to add to the problem instead of just minding your own business if someone is minding their own business i will give them all the room they want and i ll try to make things easy for them even letting them in in front of me if they ask politely with a directional on the other hand if someone like you decides they want to block me and be a general asshole you can bet your ass that i ll make life as miserable as possible for you as long as it doesn t affect anyone else who s minding their own business they have a phrase to describe someone like you self appointed traffic police just mind your own business and stay in the right lane where you belong as a rule of philosophy i don t feel particularly sorry when somebody gets offed by his own stupidity but it does worry me when some idiot is in a position to cash in my chips too h h mayo mustang gt bob pitas ush bpita ctp com up at ned epping nh cambridge ma geddy lee in yyz disclaimer these opinions are mine obviously since they end with my sig
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re changing oil by self in article apr rtfm mlb fl us gwalker rtfm mlb fl us grays on walker writes why crawl under the car at all i have a machine i got for my boat that pulls the oil out under suction through the dip stick tube it does an excellent job and by moving the suction tube around you can get more old oil out than by using the drain plug i think i paid at e b marine the oil goes into a steel gal can wait until it cools and decant into your favorite device i use soft drink bottles easy to take them down to the local oil recycle center yeah i suppose you could do that but then you don t get the broken knuckles the rust in your eyes the oil bath and the burns from the exhaust i mean come on steve
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re changing oil by self in article apr news cs brandeis edu andyh chaos cs brandeis edu andrew j huang writes in article apr magnus acs ohio state edu sorlin magnus acs ohio state edu steven j orlin writes i take the electrodes of the amp ohm volt meter whatever and connect one to each earlobe then symmetrically insert my fingers in each of the spark plug boots no cheating guys both hands must be used i have just a couple of questions about this technique first what firing order should i use do i start with my pointer finger or my pinky left hand or right and secondly i have a cyl and there are two cylinders unaccounted for any suggestions andy how about your two big toes and while you re at it why bother with removing the drain plug when you could remove the dipstick instead and suck it out from there with your mouth and then spit it out domain bobml msd measurex com bob lagesse senior software engineer uucp uunet mxmsd bobml measurex management systems division voice x kemper meadow drive fax cincinnati ohio usa
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re arctic wheels auto show i want only two things from this world a plymouth and a small opec nation with which to fuel it this would be a good and just thing car smashers can just go home and sulk jacques brouillette manufacturing engineering
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re opel owners in c t b dg news cso uiuc edu cka uxa cso uiuc edu oriolefan uiuc writes boyle cactus org craig boyle writes in article c sxi j b news cso uiuc edu cka uxa cso uiuc edu oriolefan uiuc writes gibbonsa fraser sfu ca darren gibbons writes i m looking for information on opel cars now you ask which model well the sad truth is i m not entirely sure but it s a two seater with roll over headlights hard top and really sporty looking my friend has one sitting in his yard in really nice condition body wise but he transmission has seized up on him so it hasn t run for a while does anyone have any info on these cars the engine compartment looks really tight to work on but it is in fine shape and i am quite interested in it thanks darren gibbons gibbonsa sfu ca this would be the manta would it not sold through buick dealers in the mid s as the price leader sounds a lot more like an opel gt to me i d guess that this is on the same chassis as the kadett rather than the bigger manta but i could easily be wrong i think the later kadett s were sold here as buick opels craig i think the manta is the european name for the gt i m pretty sure that the only kadett s sold here were are the pontiac lemans i think the gt is just an early s to mid s manta chintan amin the university of illinois urbanachampaign mail llama uiuc edu sig under construction hard hat area bzzt the manta was a two door sedan in the us it had a engine was sometimes referred to as an opel manta s are also ve hot and fun cars too mliggett silver ucs indiana edu mliggett iugold bitnet junk collector toys r us kid antiauthoritarian and fan of frogs iguanas and other herps
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aftermarket exhausts for bmw i i am in the process of looking for a half decent aftermarket sport exhaust for my bmw i so far i have found a pacesetter exhaust for and an ansa exhaust for canadian funds i was wondering if anyone could tell me anyhting about either of these exhausts or any other possible exhausts that i may be interested in my main priorities are a decent horse power increase and a nice low note to go along with that added power i was also thinking of looking into both remus and leistritz exhausts has anyone got anything to say about these i am mainly looking for the muffler only but if anyone can find a good deal on a whole kit i would be willing to go after that i also would like to know how much these would cost me in the states please mail me back if you have any information mike welker
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re waxing a new car i just had my chrysler painted i was told to refrain from waxing it and to leave it out in the sun supposedly this let s the volatiles escape from the paint over a month or so i can smell it feet away on a hot day and lets any slight irregularites in the surface flow out as the paint remains a little soft for a while
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mbenz series vw passat my boss is interested in a new series mercedes benz wagon does anyone have any testimonial evidence and or strong opinions on this car or line particularly i would like to hear about power manual t only reliability feel and any unusually good or bad features of the line she currently drives a vw passat and is being plagued by its electrical problems the dealer claims there is nothing wrong even though the doors have a habit of locking and unlocking them selves while you are driving down the road the automatic shoulder restraints also like to move back and forth as you move along she does not have the new larger engine and is quite dissatisfied with its lack of power the mb wagon would have to have more power and no peculiar problems such as the passat s electrical system she is also considering a saab add some letters any comparisons between the line and the mercedes would be helpful price is not an impediment jeremy j corry churchill claimed the traditions jcorry erasure sl cc emory edu of the navy are rum mutiny and sodomy my opinions are my own but i probably got them from someone else
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van step van accessory help hello netters i would like to find out information about a device that is used on vans and trucks this device is a step that hooks onto the tire and folds up for storage i ve seen this device on tnn s shady tree mechanic i would like to know if it is a good product and i would also like the price and address of where i can purchase this product thanks george chan email syst ryevm ryerson ca
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re importing volvo there was an article in business week not more the weeks ago on this very subject in fact the volvo was one of the cars they laid out an example for andrew e page warrior poet decision and effort the archer and arrow mac consultant the difference between what we are macintosh and dsp technology and what we want to be
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re sho and sc in article qehi ork armory centerline com jimf centerline com jim frost writes ok i ll give you a few reasons neither car was designed to turn at those speeds neither car was designed to stop quickly from those speeds safety mechanisms were not designed for impacts at those speeds an uncontrolled environment leads to unpredictable circumstances where you might need to turn or stop with no notice do you by any chance own an sho or have access to one such that you would have any idea what it is designed for or how it handles just wondering tom pickett tpickett auspex com or compuserve com sho goze
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re mr noisy engine in article r vofinn usenet pa dec com tomacj opco enet dec com thunderbirds are go writes are there any mr owners or motor head gurus out there that know why my mr s engine sounds noisy the mr s engine is noisy at the best of times but not even a nice nose it s one of those very ugly noises assuming yours is a non turbo mr the gruffness is characteristic of a large inline that doesn t have balance shafts i guess toyota didn t care about little details like that when they can brag about the mid engine configuration and the flashy styling myself i automatically cross out any car from consideration or recommendation which has an inline larger than liters and no balance shafts it is a good rule of thumb to keep in mind if you ever want a halfway decent engine if the noise really bugs you there is nothing else that you can do except to sell it and get a v eliot
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re warning please read in article c joit e bcstec ca boeing com neil bcstec ca boeing com neil williams writes as long as we re on the subject several years ago myself and two others were riding in the front of a toyota pickup heading south on interstate north of seattle wa someone threw a rock of an overpass and hit our windshield not by accident i m sure it was impossible to get up to the overpass quickly to see who did it we figured it was kids reported it and left a couple of years ago it happend again and killed a guy at my company he was in his mid fourties and left behind a wife and children turned out there was a reformatory for juviniles a few blocks away they caught the year old that did it they put a cover over the overpass what else could they do execute the juvi on the grounds of the reformatory required attendendence by the rest of the inmates as soon as possible after the incident and a quick sure trial i am quite serious cause and effect nothing else will ever make a dent i don t think i ll over forget this story neil williams boeing computer services bellevue wa me neither tom mackey tomm voodoo ca boeing com boeing computer services uunet bcstec voodoo tomm m s k p o box seattle wa
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re warning please read in article neilson apr seoul mpr ca neilson seoul mpr ca robert neilson writes sorry for the auto content but that is why low abiding citizens should have the power to protect themselves and their property using deadly force if necessary anywhere a threat is imminent steve heracleous you do have the power steve you can do it why don t you why don t you go shoot some kids who are tossing rocks onto cars make sure you do a good job though don t miss cause like they have big rocks and take it from me those kids are mean that is absolutely correct they have a streak of meanness that runs much deeper and stronger than anything i ever experienced even during the height of the s racial struggles i am absolutely convinced that there are kids out there today that have no concept of right and wrong but have the human intelligence which is turning them into the greatest predators that have ever walked the earth they will prevail unless the rest of humanity decides that it is in their best interest to stand up against these feral humans and for individuals to start taking some responsibility for their own protection in a state in which the individuals turn to the authorities and police for protection the police and government is soon composed of the very feral humans that they originally sought protection from gee i guess you touched my hot button i d better go cool off somewhere tom mackey tomm voodoo ca boeing com boeing computer services uunet bcstec voodoo tomm m s k p o box seattle wa
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re impala ss going into production does that mean that they re gonna bring back the biscayne and bel air
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re warning please read mchaffee dcl nxt michael t chaffee writes significantly less than the value of many automobiles and for those who will argue that the animals out there stealing cars and everything else not to mention committing completely senseless acts of violence such as rape cannot be valued in terms of money because they are human beings i submit that they are not human beings jim callison i think is on the right track and absolutely a scratch on my car bothers me more than the death of any number of scum all of you feel the same way you just won t admit it when are people going to realise that the mere fact that a piece of flesh moves and has the approximate shape of a human being does not in itself mean that it has rights
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dirty diesels i heard the diesels are considered cleaner burning than gas engines because the emit less of carbon monoxide hydrocarbons and oxides of nitrogen co hc nox but they can put out a lot of particulate matter i heard something about legislation being discussed to clean up diesel emissions is there anything in the works to install scrubbers for diesels how about the feasibility of installing them on trucks and cars would it be any different than a catylitic converter i d assume easier since we re removing particulate matter instead of converting gasses let s hear people s opinions vel natarajan nataraja rtsg mot com motorola cellular arlington hts il
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re wife wants convertible aas po cwru edu andrew a spencer writes in a previous article dspalme mke ab com diane palme x says nuet ke pts mot com keith nuetzman x p writes help my wife has informed me that she wants a convertible for her next car jp vllyoak resun com jeff perry writes fyi just last week the pbs show motor week gave the results of what they thought were the best cars for in the convertible category the honda civic del sol achieved this honor i own a del sol and i must vouch for the interior i really looks snazzy wh the top is off i looks a lot better in person than on the television i that motorweek as well needless to say i was smiling a bit by the time it was over watch out for that darned convertible tan tho i simply must inquire how can people honestly consider this car a convertible does porsche have a patent on the targa name i mean convertible to me means top down which the del sol certainly does not do it has the center that lifts out this is what i would term a targa unless porsches was gonna sue me for doing that i know the rear window rolls down but i still can hardly consider this car to be a convertible yes however with the top off and the rear window down this car is more like a convertible than a coupe think of it as a convertible with an integrated roll bar like addition jp
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re what car is this in article apr wam umd edu lerxst wam umd edu where s my thing writes i was wondering if anyone out there could enlighten me on this car i saw the other day it was a door sports car looked to be from the late s early s it was called a bricklin the doors were really small in addition the front bumper was separate from the rest of the body this is all i know if anyone can tellme a model name engine specs years of production where this car is made history or whatever info you have on this funky looking car please e mail bricklins were manufactured in the s with engines from ford they are rather odd looking with the encased front bumper there aren t a lot of them around but hemmings motor news ususally has ten or so listed basically they are a performance ford with new styling slapped on top brought to you by your neighborhood lerxst rush fan robert seymour rseymour reed edu physics and philosophy reed college nextmail accepted artificial life project reed college reed solar energy project soltrain portland or
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mazda dx with air am fm good deal hi netters i want to know if w o tax is a good deal for mazda dx how is the performance review so far on mazda is it a good buy please reply to me as i don t read this group often thanks in advance ravi ravi kiran puvvala the purpose of education is not merely ravi merlin dev cdx mot com the assimilation of facts but blow all motorola codex boston ma the money ravi puvvala
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re opel owners in article c t b dg news cso uiuc edu cka uxa cso uiuc edu oriolefan uiuc writes boyle cactus org craig boyle writes in article c sxi j b news cso uiuc edu cka uxa cso uiuc edu oriolefan uiuc writes gibbonsa fraser sfu ca darren gibbons writes i m looking for information on opel cars now you ask which model well the sad truth is i m not entirely sure but it s a two seater with roll over headlights hard top and really sporty looking my friend has one sitting in his yard in really nice condition body wise but he transmission has seized up on him so it hasn t run for a while does anyone have any info on these cars the engine compartment looks really tight to work on but it is in fine shape and i am quite interested in it thanks darren gibbons gibbonsa sfu ca this would be the manta would it not sold through buick dealers in the mid s as the price leader sounds a lot more like an opel gt to me i d guess that this is on the same chassis as the kadett rather than the bigger manta but i could easily be wrong i think the later kadett s were sold here as buick opels craig i think the manta is the european name for the gt i m pretty sure well the european manta and us gt have entirely different bodies there is little or no chance that they are the same the manta went through several generations as the coupe version of the ascona and was ok in its time that the only kadett s sold here were are the pontiac lemans i think the not true the kadett has been in and out of the us market over the years the lemans old kadett is only the latest version craig gt is just an early s to mid s manta different cars one looks like a sports car the other is a coupe chintan amin the university of illinois urbanachampaign mail llama uiuc edu sig under construction hard hat area
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re for hail damage a record in article apr pencom com stecz pencom com writes in article apr cactus org boyle cactus org craig boyle writes my integra was hit hard in the hailstorm in austin tx the insurance company cut me a check for deductible last week is this a record anybody else had settlements from the same hailstorm yet craig rumor has it that a guy at dell computer had his miata totalled so that would be about k i guess it either had the top down or the hail ripped through the top as you could not do k worth of hail damage to a miata body craig john steczkowski stecz pencom com the constitution grants you the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness it does not attempt to guarantee that everyone will be happy
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dealer cheated me with wrong odometer reading need help here is a story i bought a car about two weeks ago i finally can get hold of the previous owner of the car and got all maintanence history of the car in between and the instrument pannel of the car has been replaced and the odometer also has been reset to zero therefore the true meter reading is the reading before replacement plus current mileage that shows mile difference comparing to the mileage on the odometer disclosure from the dealer never told me anything about that important story i hope that i can return the car with full refund do u think this is possible does anyone have similar experiences any comments will be appreciated thanks yongje u washington edu
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insurance question i m about to buy a new car and finance some of it since i paid cash for the last car i bought i did not have to worry about whether or not i had a good amount of insurance on it because of a bank loan i just put the amount that i wanted not what a bank would have wanted friends are telling me that banks require some kind of insurance on the car to protect it since it is collateral on loans is this true can that insurance be gotten as part of my other insurance i assume i don t have to pay a dealer for extra insurance over my regular car insurance am i correct i hear about accident health type insurance at the dealers and i am pretty sure these are just money makers for them i just want to verify that i don t have to buy these at all or any other types of extras what do i have to pay for car tax license anything else ellen
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re ad said nissan altima best seller boyle cactus org writes in article qv mn dql menudo uh edu thang harebell egr uh edu chin heng thang writes recently i saw an ad for the altima which says that it is the best seller for the past months is that true i too was puzzled by this obvious untruth what i think is going on is that nissan claims that the altima is the best selling new car namelplate in the us i think i have this near verbatim lee iaccoca s statistics dept would have been proud of that sentence what they mean i think is that of all totally new models i e cars never sold before in any form the altima is the best seller thereby eliminating accord taurus etc this is from the same people who make the claim that our minivan is outsellin theirs implying that the nissan quest murcury villager are out selling the chrysler mini vans not only is this not true at all but it was a stupid claim to make the commercial was part of the introduction campaign for the vans kind of a bold statement to make when you haven t even sold one yet eh and i thought buick and oldsmobile where bad shame on you nissan and mercury any other interpretations craig does anyone has anyhting regarding the of cars sold for the past months tony
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w rec autos there is just something disconcerting about the name of this group
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re opel owners by the way what do people think about the opel calibra
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re too fast in article qqv k e g usenet ins cwru edu aas po cwru edu andrew a spencer writes in a previous article callison uokmax ecn uoknor edu james p callison says in article qn ev g usenet ins cwru edu aas po cwru edu andrew a spencer writes in a previous article wrat unisql uucp wharfie says that shows how much you know about anything the brakes on the sho are very different inch or i forget discs all around vented in front the normal taurus setup is smaller discs front drums rear one i saw had vented rears too it was on a lot of course the sales man was a fool titanium wheels yeah right then later told me they were magnesium more believable but still crap since al is so m uch cheaper and just as good i tend to agree tho that this still doesn t take the sho up to standard for running on a regular basis the brakes should be bigger like or so take a look at the ones on the corrados where they have braking regulations well let s see my t bird sc has a computer controlled adjustable suspension wheel abs disks vented front rear point rears also vented belts sturdy passenger compartment aerodynamics good enough for nascar without too much change hp ft lb supercharged l v wheel independent suspension plus limited slip differential with a top speed in excess of mph and rides on v rated tires i have yet to find r s in any other speed rating is that up to standard if not why not james i really hate to do this but try reading the damn posts then you shouldn t ve done it try answering the damn question i am well aware of the fact that there was no mention of the sc in there never was a t bird mentioned the discussion was about sho s and stangs not being up to spec i do not know about t birds i only know that the specs quoted for the sho by previous poster sounded a little anemic for me to say that it was up to snuff this does not kn any way disencourage me from wishing to own one nor does it make it a bad car it merely means that i think ford could have added that extra bit of safety and tossed in larger brakes as the wheels are plenty large enough for them to fit if memory serves right which it may very well not and the motor plenty powerful enough to need it well my point was that the sc and the sho both have very similar characteristics front and rear disks abs on the sho high output v wheel independent suspension very good aerodynamics point harness fat rubber and mph top speed if one of them is up to standard and i think the sc is but the other isn t then why is that no flamage just curiousity james james p callison microcomputer coordinator u of oklahoma law center callison uokmax ecn uoknor edu callison aardvark ucs uoknor edu disclaimer i m not an engineer but i play one at work the forecast calls for thunder t bird sc it s a hell of a thing killing a man you take away all he has and all he s ever gonna have will munny unforgiven
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plymouth sundance dodge shadow experiences another user recently requested info about the shadow sundance cars but i haven t seen any public responses what are people s experiences with these cars daryl daryl biberdorf n gjm d biberdorf tamu edu sola gratia sola fide sola scriptura
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re changing oil by self bobml mxmsd msd measurex com bob lagesse writes long silly discussion deleted and while you re at it why bother with removing the drain plug when you could remove the dipstick instead and suck it out from there with your mouth and then spit it out this suggestion isn t as far fetched as it sounds years ago in another time and place i used to do oil changes in boats powered by automotive engines in many cases there was no way to get any sort of a tray under the oil pan because it was boxed in by the bottom of the hull and various floation chambers on each side and if you did get something there you d spill all the oil out of it for sure trying to get it back out again so we used a small pump powered by an electric drill to suck the oil out the dipstick hole there was a long thin hose on the inlet side designed to fit down the dipstick tube and another thicker shorter hose on the outlet side that you put into any convenient container i m sure these gadgets are still available from marine hardware suppliers if you want one mart l molle computer systems research institute university of toronto toronto canada m s a
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re warning please read in article c jgc ajj dove nist gov keys starchild ncsl nist gov lawrence b keys writes this isn t anything new back in i was driving under a high overpass at night on i in san diego when i caught a glimpse of someone on the overpass as i passed under a rock slammed against the metal between the winshield and right front window my girlfriend was in the seat next to it i called the police from the next exit but i doubt if they were found about five years ago in san diego someone was put into a coma from a brick being thrown through his sunroof as he was driving and subsequently crashed i don t think he ever came out of the coma and i haven t heard anything about it for a couple years i know that this isn t the group for it but since you brought it up does anyone have any idea why they haven t bombed the waco cult probably because there are many children there also the minor fact that other than defending themselves from some people attacking them they haven t threatened or attacked anyone outside the compound in years being a promiscuous religious nut does not constitute grounds for a mass murder of koresh and his followers sorry for posting this to this group but i thought the previous post needed a rebuttal if you follow up to this portion please cross post and direct follow ups to a more appropriate newsgroup boyd johnson nosc spectra com johnson san diego california intermittent newsfeed at best and only to selected groups my opinions certainly don t match those of my employer
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re used bmw question in article apr ua ix ua edu rpaturi ho eng ua edu ravi writes hi i am dying to get the answer for the pricing polocy of a dealer here in san jose california i moved to caal from al you moved from alabama to california my sympathies year model description milage price black looks good k k sp manual ac cassette sun roof white same as aboove k k make sure that they have all maintenance records oil should be changed every months the mileage on the cars is fine be sure that these have the valve engine the valve is a bmw in name only didn t you have a line on a i for k jump on it phil mueller pamuelle ingr com or pamuelle nc b ingr com ama dod suzuki bandit bmw r
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re saturn puzzled by its pricing in article mar magnus acs ohio state edu jnielsen magnus acs ohio state edu john f nielsen writes in article pcgv oj armory centerline com jimf centerline com jim frost writes jnielsen magnus acs ohio state edu john f nielsen writes because i want to get the lowest price possible it s called capitalism i have news for you capitalism is the practice of maximizing profits same difference if you lower your costs you increase your profits personally i m not at all bothered by the saturn pricing scheme if i don t want to pay as much as they re selling it for i can go buy a different car from a different dealer and they get nothing that s competition for you if the dealer can be competitive charging what they do and making that kind of profit that s capitalism at it s best and more power to em i d rather have the consumer dictate what things will cost not the dealers sorry but neither dictates the cost it s a negotiation whether it s up front at a honda dealership in an all out dickering war or more removed on a larger economic scale ie if saturn can t sell at it s price the price drops or the company stops building them it remains a negotiated value controlled by market forces to think that the consumer controls price is ludicrous if the consumer controled price then cars would be free and no one would build cars regards charles within the span of the last few weeks i have heard elements of separate threads which in that they have been conjoined in time struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing gourd unknown net person
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gm may build toyota badged car this appeared today in the the japan economic journal reported gm plans to build a toyota badged car in the us for sale in japan bruce macdonald vp of gm corporate communications yesterday confirmed that gm president and ceo jack smith had a meeting recently with tatsuro toyoda president of toyota this meeting the two discussed business opportunities to increase gm exports to japan including further component sales as well as completed vehicle sales parts sales the two presidents agreed conceptually to pursue an arrangement whereby gm would build a toyota badged right hand drive vehicle in the us for sale by toyota in japan a working group has been formed to finalize model specifications exact timing and other details
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re changing oil by self in article apr news cs brandeis edu andyh chaos cs brandei s edu andrew j huang writes in article apr magnus acs ohio state edu sorlin magnus ac s ohio state edu steven j orlin writes i take the electrodes of the amp ohm volt meter whatever and connect one to each earlobe then symmetrically insert my fingers in each of the spark plug boots no cheating guys both hands must be used i have just a couple of questions about this technique first what firing order should i use do i start with my pointer finger or my pinky left hand or right place your hands flat on a table and arrange the firing order from left to right and secondly i have a cyl and there are two cylinders unaccounted for any suggestions well you have friends don t you cylinders might be more excitement than one person can take
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re bmw series for in article qll innp r uwm edu qazi csd csd uwm edu aamir hafeez qazi writes from article eabu dialin slip nts uci edu by eabu orion oac uci edu alvin is there going to be a bmw in could be isn t the liter six supposed to be enlarged to liters in the not too distant future makes sense since the new mercedes benz engines go from l to a l nothing in between btw i beleive the numbers on those mb engines are and hp respectively the one upmanship in hp might induce bmw to create a larger six also the e has lagged behind the er for some time wrt hp i am sure the bavarians wouldn t want to be shown up by the schwabians ps those mb engines haven t been released over here yet daniel
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re warning please read in article c k m ku constellation ecn uoknor edu callison uokmax ecn uoknor edu james p callison writes if i hear someone screwing with my car ie setting off the alarm and taunting me to come out you can be damn sure that my colt delta elite will also be coming with me it s not the screwing with the car that d get them shot it s the potential physical danger if they re taunting like that it s very possible that they also intend to rob me and or do other physically harmful things here in houston last year a woman heard the sound of someone in her garage so she went to investigate with a gun in her hand she found a guy in the process of stealing her bicycle she quite reasonably asked him to stop he refused began taunting her and as the woman was quoted in the police report he told me to go ahead and shoot him so i did the moron survived and no charges were filed against the woman
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re it s a rush was re too fast why should a good driver be terrified at mph the only thing i fear going at are drivers who switch to the left lane without using either rear view mirror or flashers doing to ain t a rush for me but it s fun and i get where i want to go much faster in defense of the drivers who are in the right lane here in the states people simply do not expect when they are driving to be overtaken at a speed differential of mph i don t think this is because they are stupid of course there are exceptions they are just programmed because of the mph limit do you in the states when you look in the rear view always calculate future positions of cars based on a speed differential dont get me wrong i love to drive in the left lane fast but when i overtake cars who are on the right i slow down a tad bit if i were to rely on the judgement of the other car to recognize the speed differential i would be the stupid one btw if no one else is around then go for it
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squeekin windows consumer reports once wrote about the s blazer that it shook and rattled like a tired taxi cab there is one noise that is expecially irritating the back window squeaks i believe its because the whole tailgate assembly and window are not solid anyway has anyone had the same problem and have you found any fixes arlen martin at t microelectronics att attme stcarm
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re mazda just does not feel right in article mxm msi umn edu mxm s msi umn edu ram v mohan writes i ve a mazda with about miles on it recently i do not get a good feeling of the road esp on a wet pavement when driving the car it feels as if the car is wandering and there is no grip on the road the tires are the original ones and have threads on them passes the penny head test i had the shocks and struts and alignment checked and things are fine however i feel like that i dont have the grip of the road and feel as if the car is wandering esp on turns any help in this is appreciated thanks two shots at it check the tires again if you can see the wear bars you re down to problem area and some tires pass a penny test between the bars that s no guide at all your problem in the wet is call hydroplaning you may not have enough tread left to channel water out from under the tire so it goes fishy on you as it lifts off the road tires age in particular soft tire compounds get harder as you put them thru more heat cycles harder compounds don t grip as well as soft ones effect is very noticable on tires that get very hot very often such as in competition but it hits all tires bob benson
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re it s a rush was re too fast gwm spl spl loral com gary w mahan writes why should a good driver be terrified at mph the only thing i fear going at are drivers who switch to the left lane without using either rear view mirror or flashers doing to ain t a rush for me but it s fun and i get where i want to go much faster in defense of the drivers who are in the right lane here in the states people simply do not expect when they are driving to be overtaken at a speed differential of mph i don t think this is because they are stupid of course there are exceptions they are just programmed because of the mph limit do you in the states when you look in the rear view always calculate future positions of cars based on a speed differential dont get me wrong i love to drive in the left lane fast but when i overtake cars who are on the right i slow down a tad bit if i were to rely on the judgement of the other car to recognize the speed differential i would be the stupid one btw if no one else is around then go for it keep up the good work guys afterall the cops need to be occupied with someone so that lesser mortals like us can be left alone bhaskar orion me uiuc edu
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re dumbest automotive concepts of all time in article drutx att com klf druwa att com franklinkl writes in article c hhgm rm constellation ecn uoknor edu callison uokmax ecn uoknor edu james p callison writes in article apr slcs slb com dcd se houston geoquest slb com dan day writes in article q innb ctron news ctron com smith ctron com writes it s a big aftermarket business almost no cars come from the factory with vynal any more and any fake convertible job definitely came from some aftermarket place what amazes me is how much people are willing to pay for bad taste how about those really ugly fake wheel compartments stuck onto the trunk or side or both sides of some tacky luxury cars some of em aren t fake if you re talking about the continental kit named after the lincoln continental the first car to sport one i personally would love to have a t bird with a continental kit and the supercharged v that is one of the most beautiful cars ever built imho james the continental may have been the first modern era auto to mount the spare on the rear of the car but it was hardly the first car to sport one various mounting techniques for rear mounting the spare were quite common in early automobiles both us and foreign the lincoln continental was the first car to sport the continental kit the continental kit is not to be confused with ye olde outside mounting bracket a continental kit is a very specific ornament storage compartment the continental has a neat trunk it looks rather like a laundry hamper imho james james p callison microcomputer coordinator u of oklahoma law center callison uokmax ecn uoknor edu callison aardvark ucs uoknor edu disclaimer i m not an engineer but i play one at work the forecast calls for thunder t bird sc it s a hell of a thing killing a man you take away all he has and all he s ever gonna have will munny unforgiven
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re sho and sc in article apr ganglion ann arbor mi us david ganglion ann arbor mi us david hwang writes in article unisql uucp wrat unisql uucp wharfie writes in article chrissc qb d b netcom com chriss netcom com chris silvester writes wagon which i have heard is somehow slightly faster than the coupe wagon has an automatic it s slower could be due to the rear end ratio also usually automatics have different rear ends than manuals from my limited experience anyways you ll have fun looking for the rear end gears on an sho the taurus is a front wheel drive vehicle i went back and checked the article again the sho wagon is quicker than the sho automatic but significantly slower than the real sho why anyone would order an sho with an automatic transmission is beyond me if you can t handle a stick you should stick with a regular taurus and leave the sho to real drivers that is not to say that there aren t real drivers who can t use the stick eg disabled persons but they aren t in any position to use an sho anyway i would be willing to bet that if we removed the automatic transmissions from all performance type cars like the l mustangs camaros and the like we d cut down on the number of accidents each year autos are fine for sedate little sedans but they have no business in performance cars imho james james p callison microcomputer coordinator u of oklahoma law center callison uokmax ecn uoknor edu callison aardvark ucs uoknor edu disclaimer i m not an engineer but i play one at work the forecast calls for thunder t bird sc it s a hell of a thing killing a man you take away all he has and all he s ever gonna have will munny unforgiven
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is this a good price hi everybody i will buy a honda civic ex coupe the dealer ask for it including a c installed but not including stereo tax registration fees i live in mexico so i don t have time to go to a lot of dealers and compare their prices the dealer is in mcallen tx is this a good price for that car if not how much should i pay for it please e mail asap if you don t want to post thanks a lot orlando pugliese opuglies mtecv mty itesm mx orlando pugliese n instituto tecnologico y de estudios superiores de monterrey depto de informacion academica monterrey n l mexico ext
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re plymouth sundance dodge shadow experiences in article qmq tinn l tamsun tamu edu dlb tamuts tamu edu daryl biberdorf writes another user recently requested info about the shadow sundance cars but i haven t seen any public responses what are people s experiences with these cars daryl they are pretty much junk stay away from them they will be replaced next year with all new models
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re car buying story was christ another dealer service scam from article apr newsgate sps mot com by markm bigfoot sps mot com mark monninger this kind of behavior is what i was shocked by in my experience for crying out loud how do these turkeys think they can talk to customers this way and still stay in business again i don t expect sales people to bow scrape and grovel in my presence but i sure don t expect to be abused either i was very surprised by the way the sales people talked to me and in other negotiating sessions i overheard in neighboring sales cubicles evidently their success rate is high enough that they continue to do business this way there must be a lot of people out there who are easy to intimidate a couple of months ago i went to a dealership to test drive a car afterwards we sat down to discuss prices i explained that i wanted a car just like the one i drove but in a different color he said he could get one exactly like i wanted from the dealer network within a day we then negotiated a price and signed the deal next day i get a call he explains that they goofed and they had neglected to take into account a price increase the last price increase had occurred over months prior to my visit if i still wanted the car i would have to fork over another as an alternative they would honor the price if i bought the car i test drove which had been sitting around for months and had a few miles on it i said goodbye this was a good example of how they can lowball you and still cover their butts it s too bad more people don t demand honesty or these types of dealers would no longer be in business the next dealership i went to was straightforward and honest first thing the salesman said was lets s see what you have for dealer cost and work out how much profit i should make the deal went through with no problems steve
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re electronic odometer in article c fp b co megatest com alung megatest com aaron lung writes if i m not mistaken altering the odometer is illegal furthermore i surmise it ll be tough to alter bmw s odometer if you got at it some of the newer bmw s have electronic odometers making it even more tamperproof on the cars mentioned series from the late s the electronic odometer is really a mechanical drum type odometer that is driven by pulses from a speed sensor on the rear axle these pulses are converted into mechanical pulses that turn the odometer and speedometer no way changing or erasing an eprom is going to change the mileage reading it also means the odometer is just as easy or hard to change as any other mechanical odometer on the other hand it is a bit easier to disconnect the speed sensor and run the car with no speedometer or odometer reading a simple switch will do the job it also will disable the speed limiter which will enable the car to reach it s full speed alan l peterman hm work al qiclab scn rain com it s odd how as i get older the days are longer but the years are shorter
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insurance says car is totalled on wednesday morning another driver decided to illegally turn left in front of me doing great damage to my car honda civic i have yet to pay off the car and the body shop says the insurance company wants to total the car i haven t been able to get in touch with the person handling my claim so i checked on some things my payout is blue book retail is loan value is trade in value is could anyone give me any advice on what i should could do if the insurance company does not give me a reasonable amount for the loss of the car thanks james baker baker dfwvx dallas geoquest slb com
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options that would be great to have a list of options that would be useful they can be existing options on a car or things you d like to have tripmeter great little gadget lets you keep rough track of mileage makes a good second guesser for your gas gauge full size spare built in mountings and power systems for radar detectors a fitting that allows you to generate household current with the engine running and plug ins in the trunk engine compartment and cabin feel free to add on regards charles x within the span of the last few weeks i have heard elements of separate threads which in that they have been conjoined in time struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing gourd unknown net person
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dumb options list the idea here is to list pointless options you know stuff you get on a car that has no earthly use power windows add as you wish regards charles within the span of the last few weeks i have heard elements of separate threads which in that they have been conjoined in time struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing gourd unknown net person
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re it s a rush was re too fast in a previous article gwm spl spl loral com gary w mahan says why should a good driver be terrified at mph the only thing i fear going at are drivers who switch to the left lane without using either rear view mirror or flashers doing to ain t a rush for me but it s fun and i get where i want to go much faster in defense of the drivers who are in the right lane here in the states people simply do not expect when they are driving to be overtaken at a speed differential of mph i don t think this is because they are stupid of course there are exceptions they are just programmed because of the mph limit do you in the states when you look in the rear view always calculate future positions of cars based on a speed differential dont get me wrong i love to drive in the left lane fast but when i overtake cars who are on the right i slow down a tad bit if i were to rely on the judgement of the other car to recognize the speed differential i would be the stupid one just to satiate my curiosity why would this make you the stupid one it seems to me everybody should be aware enough of what is going on you do not need to calculate the future position you need to look at your mirrors a little more if you glance around you will be able to tell how much faster than you the car is going maybe not precisely but well enough to know if you should let him around before you try to pass i know what you are talking about about the other driver being startled because i myself have been startled by drivers cruising by at around mph when i m doin the problem though as i saw it was not their fault for barreling around me but my fault for not paying the attention to my task at hand that i should have been oddly enough since the nd time happened x in around mo when i d had my liscence for around mo i haven t been startled and i ve been passed by cars doing roughly twice the speed of my car another odd occurance is the fact that this only seems to happen on long trips and if i drive along with them it doesn t happen at all even on the long trips adrenaline will do that to you i ve had bad cop experiences with speeding so anything over the limit is adrenalizing for me scared i ll get caught maybe they should raise the limit so we can pay better attention just curious and my otwo drew
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re squeekin windows arlen r martin arm cbnewsm cb att com wrote consumer reports once wrote about the s blazer that it shook and rattled like a tired taxi cab there is one noise that is expecially irritating the back window squeaks i believe its because the whole tailgate assembly and window are not solid anyway has anyone had the same problem and have you found any fixes i can relate to this i ve tried everything on my greasing every point wd etc grease on the two cheap hinges on the tailgate seems to quiet it down for a time until the grease works out of the hinges hinge pins appear to be made out of penny nails another vibration seems to get worse with age and that is a vibration in the transmission in th gear my s has k miles on it i bought it new treated it very easily no fast off road stuff can t gm build chevies like they used to ford explorers look nice until you look at the price jim burrill
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re saturn s pricing policy i just ordered a saturn sl after considering a few imports frankly the saturn way of doing business and service was a very big plus i hadn t bought a new car since i bought my honda wd back in and i was unbelieveably offended by most salespeople i met saturn was indeed very different i made three different visits to the dealer where i bought my car and was never pressured saturn also had the best after sales support and the fixed pricing made it very easy for me to decide exactly what i wanted to buy another big selling point was running into my mechanic at the dealer he s been fixing imports for years and bought a saturn based on what he s seen and heard from his customers saturn also has a good extended warranty program for year k miles fully refunded if you don t use it that works out to an actual cost of or so based on the year treasury rates using savings account rates it s more like in the first three years it also buys you free rental during any warranty work without counting against the refund mike
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re sho and sc in article c l re constellation ecn uoknor edu callison uokmax ecn uoknor edu james p callison writes in article apr ganglion ann arbor mi us david ganglion ann arbor mi us david hwang writes in article unisql uucp wrat unisql uucp wharfie writes in article chrissc qb d b netcom com chriss netcom com chris silvester writes why anyone would order an sho with an automatic transmission is beyond me if you can t handle a stick you should stick with a regular taurus and leave the sho to real drivers that is not to say that there aren t real drivers who can t use the stick eg disabled persons but they aren t in any position to use an sho anyway i would be willing to bet that if we removed the automatic transmissions from all performance type cars like the l mustangs camaros and the like we d cut down on the number of accidents each year autos are fine for sedate little sedans but they have no business in performance cars imho james i have to disagree with this i have a z with a and a speed auto w overdrive and it is really better that way chevy autos are reknowned for their long life and ability to handle copious amount of power i live in the dallas area and a manual would be much harder to drive in the traffic here now if i still lived out in the sticks like i used to a manual would be more fun safety wise an auto is less distracting i would hate to have to be shifting gears while i was trying to ease into traffic in the freeways here performance wise i can hold my own against any stock mustang or camaro w a five speed all of this imho robert l loper infinity is a notion best contemplated robertll flopn dseg ti com in a warm bed texas instruments inc my opinions are my own not ti s
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re too fast in article qkon re armory centerline com jimf centerline com jim frost writes larger engine that s what the sho is a slightly modified family sedan with a powerful engine they didn t even bother improving the brakes that shows how much you know about anything the brakes on the sho are very different inch or i forget discs all around vented in front the normal taurus setup is smaller discs front drums rear your argument still boils down to an sho shouldn t be driven fast because i jim frost say it isn t designed to go fast pffffftttttt if you think so you sure don t pay attention to my postings damn straight you re one of those people who makes stuff up and tries to pawn it off as god s own truth if i want lies i can go listen to television the wharf rat
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re where can i get a new york taxi in article ncrcan canada ncr ca tnelson ncrcan canada ncr ca tim nelson writes the older ny taxis were made by the checker car company and i would love to have one or is the checker car company still in business checker motors went out of business in it s hard to get old checkers that are worth restoring since almost every one was a fleet vehicle that was driven into the ground if you can get a body in decent shape the mechanicals should all be available somewhere checker used whatever parts were around for instance i had a chevy straight six and a gmc truck radiator and a ford rear in mine the model that i am looking for is the checker marathon actually you want a checker special if you can find one good luck i m sorry i let mine go
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differences in insurance companies rates i am considering buying an new car so i called three insurance companies in california to get estimates i asked for the same coverage and same deductibles most of the companies charge you according to your zip code others charge according to your city anyhow i gave the same zip code and city to all three places here s what i found for a integra gs aaa yr state farm yr allstate yr aaa is non profit so they said i could also expect to receive about back at the end of the year still there is a huge gap between all of these companies state farm wants more than twice as much as allstate i think i should be suspicious but i ve never heard anybody else complain any comments thanks gregg l kasten gregg cs stanford edu
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re honda accord brake problem joni ciarletta writes my honda accord just hit the magic mile mark and now all sorts of things are beginning to go bad the latest problem i am experiencing is with my brakes they still stop the car fine but once i am stopped completely my brake pedal will sink another or inches all by itself if feels really strange and i am worried my brakes will quit working one of these days i checked my brake fluid and the reservoir was full but the fluid itself looked really dirty like dirty oil i called my mechanic and he told me i need a new brake master cylinder which will cost me a whopping you are not alone my honda accord with miles on it started showing the same behavior i replaced the brake master cylinder myself it took about an hour and cost about sure beats paying to have someone else do it if i wanted to rebuild my own master cylinder instead of putting in a rebuilt one it would have cost only to for the rebuild kit the honda brake master cylinder is easy to get to two bolts attach it to the engine compartment two brake lines enter the master cylinder the tricky part was that the brake lines were stuck tight my craftsmen open end wrench rounded off the bolt heads i had to use vise grips to loosen those suckers wow best invention since sliced bread after that it was very easy bolt the new part in place add new brake fluid and bleed the brakes this is quite easy even for a beginner my local auto parts store had a repair manual for the honda accord it had detailed diagrams of the master brake cylinder and a step by step procedure for replacing it
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re options that would be great to have in a previous article parr acs ucalgary ca charles parr says a list of options that would be useful they can be existing options on a car or things you d like to have tripmeter great little gadget lets you keep rough track of mileage makes a good second guesser for your gas gauge full size spare built in mountings and power systems for radar detectors a fitting that allows you to generate household current with the engine running and plug ins in the trunk engine compartment and cabin feel free to add on power windows dod darkman the significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them albert einstein the eternal champion
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manual shift bigots now my ego with regards to my shifting ability is as big as anyone else s but i just ordered my first car with an auto trans i wasn t planning on it but after driving a few i was convinced things have changed since the days of slip n slide withe powerglide they shift better than i do there s no clutch to wear out honda wanted for my wd wagon last year got it done for it only costs about in gas milage on the highway and it makes it easier to concentrate on all the radios in my car oddly enough while two of my best friends both in the auto industry here in the motor city have switched wholeheartedly to autos their wives insist on manual shift envy braggadocio aside given today s technology and the warranties they re handing out the auto trans seemed like an excellent choice call me a convert mike
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re saturn manual transmission problem in article ka crdnns crd ge com cimjfg sn utica ge com writes after many trips to the dealer who has admittedly been patient with me they are admittedly going to do nothing about it the dealer did however follow the bulletin and review proper shifing procedures with the owner my next attempt at satisfaction in the customer number but from the first round it doesn t sound too hopeful i m surprised i know of a local case where a guy took his saturn back five times to complain they hadn t properly eliminated a rattling noise so saturn gave him a new car call that number
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re too fast in a previous article wrat unisql uucp wharfie says in article qkon re armory centerline com jimf centerline com jim frost writes larger engine that s what the sho is a slightly modified family sedan with a powerful engine they didn t even bother improving the brakes that shows how much you know about anything the brakes on the sho are very different inch or i forget discs all around vented in front the normal taurus setup is smaller discs front drums rear one i saw had vented rears too it was on a lot of course the sales man was a fool titanium wheels yeah right then later told me they were magnesium more believable but still crap since al is so m uch cheaper and just as good i tend to agree tho that this still doesn t take the sho up to standard for running on a regular basis the brakes should be bigger like or so take a look at the ones on the corrados where they have braking regulations drew
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re sho and sc in a previous article a moe dseg ti com robert loper says in article c l re constellation ecn uoknor edu callison uokmax ecn uoknor edu james p callison writes in article apr ganglion ann arbor mi us david ganglion ann arbor mi us david hwang writes in article unisql uucp wrat unisql uucp wharfie writes in article chrissc qb d b netcom com chriss netcom com chris silvester writes why anyone would order an sho with an automatic transmission is beyond me if you can t handle a stick you should stick with a regular taurus and leave the sho to real drivers that is not to say that there aren t real drivers who can t use the stick eg disabled persons but they aren t in any position to use an sho anyway i would be willing to bet that if we removed the automatic transmissions from all performance type cars like the l mustangs camaros and the like we d cut down on the number of accidents each year autos are fine for sedate little sedans but they have no business in performance cars imho james i have to disagree with this i have a z with a and a speed auto w overdrive and it is really better that way chevy autos are reknowned for their long life and ability to handle copious amount of power i live in the dallas area and a manual would be much harder to drive in the traffic here now if i still lived out in the sticks like i used to a manual would be more fun safety wise an auto is less distracting i would hate to have to be shifting gears while i was trying to ease into traffic in the freeways here performance wise i can hold my own against any stock mustang or camaro w a five speed all of this imho all of my ho s disagree with your ho s i loved dallas rush hour in my stick detested it in the auto like i did any other time in the auto of course dalls rush hours are nothing from what i hear if i lived in la i might be of a different persuasion and just for the record rarely do you shift gears when merging into traffic that is what speeds are good for th is good up through around most of the time so you can just wind it out it s not going to hurt anything and keeps it in the powerband anyway only shift into top gear when you are exceeding redline in th fairly rare unless you drive a ferrari or some such i d bet or when you hit cruising speed where you feel comfortable or when my mother is sitting in the passanger seat complaining about how you wind her poor little engine way too hi just my ho s drew
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re dents on car all you have to do is turn it in to the police like you would an accident get a report and send it in to your insurance company and they will contact the other guys insurance company and they will have to pay just as they would in an accident they caused thus no need to go to court a friend of mine did this and he got the money so it does work
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re ultimate awd vehicles in article bcd b ecs umass edu sylveste ecs umass edu writes before the s became the s it was called the turbo quattro v this model did come in a wagon a very quick wagon very rare also mike sylvester umass yes i saw a turbo quattro wagon on i in nj on monday i thought audi stopped selling wagons in the us after the this is exactly the type of vehicle i would like to own i bet its price is times my car budget ron deblock rdb homxb att com that s a number in rdb not letter l at t bell labs somerset nj usa
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re legal car buying problems rboudrie chpc org rob boudrie writes in article stratus swdc stratus com bob runway swdc stratus com bob hutson writes after agreeing to terms i signed the contract and drove home in my new car later that same night i noticed that the terms in the were different from the terms i had agreed to i made the stupid mistake of not checking everything on the contract this all happened last saturday i have heard that there is a cooling off law allowing me three days to reconsider the contract is this true can anyone point me to the law the transaction happened at the dealership if it matters this cooling off period applies only in certain situations lik ewhen you are solicited at home i also think the cooling off period ends if you actually accept the merchandise if this were not the case any car buyer would have the right to return a slightly used highly devalued car days after buying it yeah that s the trick if i want to buy a new car i d have a firend buy return one then go in and negotiate a better deal on a pre owned used car however if you agree some terms and then when about to sign the dealer slips you a contract with different terms and leads you to believe that it embodies the terms you verbally agreed to that is fraud there is no day limit on restitution for fraud you may have to sue and win to get out of this you will almost certainly have to threaten to sue john oswalt jao megatest com or jao netcom com
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re legal car buying problems in article apr chpc org rboudrie chpc org rob boudrie writes in article stratus swdc stratus com bob runway swdc stratus com bob hutson writes after agreeing to terms i signed the contract and drove home in my new car later that same night i noticed that the terms in the were different from the terms i had agreed to i made the stupid mistake of not checking everything on the contract this all happened last saturday i have heard that there is a cooling off law allowing me three days to reconsider the contract is this true can anyone point me to the law the transaction happened at the dealership if it matters this cooling off period applies only in certain situations lik ewhen you are solicited at home i also think the cooling off period ends if you actually accept the merchandise if this were not the case any car buyer would have the right to return a slightly used highly devalued car days after buying it yeah that s the trick if i want to buy a new car i d have a firend buy return one then go in and negotiate a better deal on a pre owned used car for discussion purposes only on the other hand if it can be proven it s possible the changed terms could be thrown out the question will be whether the agreement contains a merger clause see ucc parol evidence if we re talking about warranties then of course ucc should be looked at but we have so little information that none of us can say anything conclusive daniel reitman the uniform commercial code protects the innocent purchaser but it is not a shield for the sly conniver the blindly naive or the hopelessly gullible atlas auto rental corp v weisberg misc d n y s d n y city civ ct
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re it s a rush was re too fast dont get me wrong i love to drive in the left lane fast but when i overtake cars who are on the right i slow down a tad bit if i were to rely on the j udgement of the other car to recognize the speed differential i would be the stupid one just to satiate my curiosity why would this make you the stupid one it seems to me everybody should be aware enough of what is going on you do not need i couldnt agree more that is how it should work people should also always see motorcycles too i constantly scan behind me i have one of those wink mirrors and two outside mirrors i actually spend just as much time checking my six cops you know i still get caught off guard every now and then maybe i didnt word it right the first time what i was trying to say was that if you plan to blow by somebody at a very high speed differential and you assume you are safe because the guy sees you you are stupid of course it depends on the circumstances i have had some very scary instances when i assumed this and i dont think all of the fault was the other guy now if he was going in a thats a whole different story
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re dumb options list in a previous article parr acs ucalgary ca charles parr says the idea here is to list pointless options you know stuff you can get on a car that has no earthly use a fitting that allows you to generate household current with the engine running and plug ins in the trunk engine compartment and cabin feel free to add on regards charles x within the span of the last few weeks i have heard elements of separate threads which in that they have been conjoined in time struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing gourd unknown net person
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re it s a rush was re too fast in a previous article gwm spl spl loral com gary w mahan says dont get me wrong i love to drive in the left lane fast but when i overtake cars who are on the right i slow down a tad bit if i were to rely on the j udgement of the other car to recognize the speed differential i would be the stupid one just to satiate my curiosity why would this make you the stupid one it seems to me everybody should be aware enough of what is going on you do not need i couldnt agree more that is how it should work people should also always see motorcycles too i constantly scan behind me i have one of those wink mirrors and two outside mirrors i actually spend just as much time checking my six cops you know i still get caught off guard every now and then maybe i didnt word it right the first time what i was trying to say was that if you plan to blow by somebody at a very high speed differential and you assume you are safe because the guy sees you you are stupid of course it depends on the circumstances i have had some very scary instances when i assumed this and i dont think all of the fault was the other guy now if he was going in a thats a whole different story ok i can agree to this because as we have both proved what is ideally supposed to happen isn t always and even though i m rearely the one doing the passing i don t see where it makes you stupid but i agree that if you think you are safe because the other guy is supposed to have been paying attention then yes you are just as dumb as the other maybe dumber hasta drew
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re dumbest automotive concepts of all time from article pq i a f news ysu edu by ak yfn ysu edu john r daker cup holders driving is an importantant enough undertaking ashtrays smokers seem to think it s just fine to use the road oh sure sorry but the absence of a cupholder is not gonna discourage anyone from eating drinking in the car let s just put one in anyway so at least they don t have the further distraction of trying not to spill it furthermore you are obviously not a smoker on a cold day it takes a certain skill to toss a butt out of a cracked window without having it wind deflect into the back seat also just cause some smokers use the window doesn t mean all of us do this reminds me of one pleasant feature in the otherwise ergonomically hellish interior of the alfa romeo milano you could ash your cigarette without even removing your hand from the wheel the tray was right there fake convertible roofs and vinyl roofs any gold trim these i will agree are abominations right along with the fake continental spare tire kit it s sad watching those little old ladies try to load their groceries into the trunk with that huge tire medallion in the way most pitiful fake convertible top on a cadillac cimarron with all the chrome door trim still visible not fooling anyone of course there was that hyundai excel i once saw a laszlo csd csd uwm edu redhead afficionado extraordinaire and v little canadia s minister of fine tobaccos o cigaret brands sampled import luxury handrolling these opinions are not necessarily mine or mine either can anyone bum me a sig
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re dumbest automotive concepts of all tim in article mar uncavx unca edu bwillard uncavx unca edu wrote saab ignition is on floor actually this started as a great idea before steering column locks became popular saab installed a gearshift lock put the car in reverse remove the key and the car stays in reverse also suppose you get into your car and a thug comes up and demands your keys at gunpoint you hand them over he gets in and has no idea where to put the key at this he will run away or perhaps shoot you anyway i heard this actually happened somewhere btw i hear that the saab s new successor will have the ignition on the console between the seats where it belongs a laszlo csd csd uwm edu redhead afficionado extraordinaire and v little canadia s minister of fine tobaccos o cigaret brands sampled import luxury handrolling these opinions are not necessarily mine or mine either can anyone bum me a sig
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re ad said nissan altima best seller in article r vk innaft cronkite central sun com dbernard clesun central sun com writes i too was puzzled by this obvious untruth what i think is going on is that nissan claims that the altima is the best selling new car namelplate in the us i think i have this near verbatim lee iaccoca s statistics dept would have been proud of that sentence note that the corolla prism are also new designs but hey are not new nameplates i guess nissan doesn t even sell as many altimas as toyota does corollas or there would be no nameplate qualifier but waiiiiiit isn t nissan officially registering the car as far as government paperwork goes nissan stanza altima to avoid costly and lengthy paperwork i read this on the net a while ago and someone actually may have said there s a little stanza logo on the altima somewhere you can have it both ways spiros spiros triantafyllopoulos c st kocrsv delcoelect com software technology delco electronics gm hughes electronics kokomo in i post therefore i armm
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re dumbest automotive concepts of all tim in article apr exu ericsson se exulox exu ericsson se lasse ohlsson t tdt writes in article cas org sdm cas org writes imho the dumbest thing we ever did in copying the japanese was moving the dimmer switch from the floor to the lever controlling the turn signal cruise the federal government has mandated that all passenger cars by model year return to the floor mounted dimmer switch a study by the national highway traffic safety administration nhtsa has found that an unacceptable percentage of after dusk collisions were the direct result of unskilled drivers getting their left foot stuck in the steering wheel ron gaskins c reg koptsw delcoelect com automotive electronic systems delco electronics gm hughes electronics kokomo in ron gaskins c reg koptsw delcoelect com automotive electronic systems delco electronics gm hughes electronics kokomo in
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re warning please read in article r d d s agate berkeley edu bh anarres cs berkeley edu brian harvey writes rfelix netcom com robbie felix writes how about the thousands of kind teenagers who volunteer at local agencies to help children seniors the homeless hear hear thanks robbie you also don t read that much about violence against teenagers such as george bush burying alive tens of thousands of unarmed iraqi year olds who were trying to surrender with bulldozers on the other hand i think it is true without singling out teenagers for blame that violence is more socially acceptable than it used to be those of us who d like to discourage violence have plenty of work to do with people of all ages i didn t know george could drive a bulldozer
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re re toyota land cruiser worth it in response to a post about suv s i got several unsolicited recommendations to check out the land cruiser despite its astronomical price the toyota dealer told me it s a cult car if a car is good enough to create a passionate and loyal following there must be something really extraordinary about it so all you land crusher cultists here is your chance to convert me jonathan edwards edwards intranet com intranet inc based on my experience with a fj the hard top jeep style model i would definitely give a new model consideration if i were in the market the older models are very well built unless toyota lost its mind i would assume until proven otherwise that the newer models have inherited some if not all of the qualities of their ancestors two major differences in the running gear that i m aware of need study my has a solid front axle housing whereas the newer models have independant front suspension the solid axle is theoretically stronger and more reliable than the newer model but only experience will tell the independant front suspension is no doubt a compromise made to satisfy the typical user who will never need a real utility vehicle the second difference is the type of transfer case used on the newer models i m not sure but i think tioyota went to a full time wd or all wheel drive system the older landcruisers have a lock up type both have their advantages and disadvantages paul hovnanian hovnania atc boeing com std disclaimers apply
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re is car saftey important jnielsen magnus acs ohio state edu john f nielsen writes in article r jr m v armory centerline com jimf centerline com jim frost writes tcorkum bnr ca trevor corkum writes i figure that mph collisions into brick walls aren t common enough for me to spend that much extra money for protection but there are lots of low speed collisions that do worry me get into an mph accident and you may reconsider i ve been in one and it is really scarey my life is something i value more than a car s looks or handeling consider it insurance it may not happen often but when it does you ll sure be glad you got a safe car granted the tests aren t perfect but i d much rather be in a car that did well in the test than a car that did horribly you raise a valid point but again it s a tradeoff how much money do you want to spend for that kind of protection you could buy a volvo saab or benz and get really good crash protection and other luxuries but you ll pay significantly more for it in my case it s out of the question because all of those cars are beyond my budget even in high speed head on collisions the most beneficial item you can have is a good old point seatbelt nowadays at least in the us you get an airbag if you get a point belt so presumably you get an added safety benefit there as well that s something i certainly look for and which can be had in inexpensive cars my of course jim frost jimf centerline com
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re best radar detector valentine troy sequent com troy wecker writes there is no question that the valentine has good range but not significant enough to be or times as expensive as some of the others the big win with the v is not its range but rather its directionality and multiple transmitter tracking which you later called a gimmick a conclusion i disagree with since the detector incorporates multiple receivers it s not surprising that it s significantly more expensive while the added capabilities may not help you there is added value for those of us who live in areas where there are a lot of false alarms summary valentine way too expensive and not a significantly better performer i certainly call it interesting but i m another person who thinks that the added value might be coming at too high a cost very adequate radar detectors are available for less than half the cost and one of them has suited me rather well if i did more long distance travelling in areas i m not familiar with i d probably consider getting the v because it s additional information would be useful in discriminating false alarms jim frost jimf centerline com
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re dumbest automotive concepts of all time r vmcms csuohio edu writes in article c lz jus news cso uiuc edu cka uxa cso uiuc edu oriolefan uiuc writes laszlo csd csd uwm edu tyson f nuss writes from article pq i a f news ysu edu by ak yfn ysu edu john r daker fake convertible roofs and vinyl roofs any gold trim these i will agree are abominations right along with the fake continental spare tire kit it s sad watching those little old ladies try to load their groceries into the trunk with that huge tire medallion in the way most pitiful fake convertible top on a cadillac cimarron with all the chrome door trim still visible not fooling anyone of course there was that hyundai excel i once saw i have seen a cutlass supreme coupe gm with a vinyl roof ditto a taurus shoot the owners now before it s too late it gets better i ve seen them on a door escort chevy s blazer and even a chevy astro mini van a mini van w a fake convertible top is not something you want to see just after eating and better yet there s a chevette in town with wire crome wheels vinyl roof tacky paint job and a continental spare showing the wire crome wheel within of course i m scared to look on the inside and have only seen it rolling down the road and i too was glad i hadn t just ate bob martel lady luck must have been a wonderful girl bob cua csuohio edu she s never been a friend of mine r vmcms csuohio edu the alan parsons project the b lives chris t ward dod don t take life too seriously you can never come out of it alive
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re dealer cheated me with wrong odometer reading need help in article qvrnpinnnid shelley u washington edu yongje hardy u washington edu yong je lim writes subject dealer cheated me with wrong odometer reading need help here is a story i bought a car about two weeks ago i finally can get hold of the previous owner of the car and got all maintanence history of the car in between and the instrument pannel of the car has been replaced and the odometer also has been reset to zero therefore the true meter reading is the reading before replacement plus current mileage that shows mile difference comparing to the mileage on the odometer disclosure from the dealer never told me anything about that important story i hope that i can return the car with full refund do u think this is possible does anyone have similar experiences any comments will be appreciated thanks something that happened in south africa about a year ago a dealer sold a mercedes with an odometer reading of k kilometers to a lady turned out that the actual reading should have been k court case followed because lady said she wouldn t have bought a car with that much km s dealer found quilty fined and had to take back the car i think you have a case if you can get a sworn statement from the previous owner take the car back to the dealer and threaten him or something gerrit
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re is car saftey important in article apr bnr ca tcorkum bnr ca trevor corkum writes subject is car saftey important i was recently thumbing through the lemon aid new car guide what i found was a car would be given a recommended under the picture while a few sentences later noting how a driver and passenger were virtually guaranteed to be killed in a front end collision the most highly recommended small car the civic has the worst crash rating of all of the small cars listed there were many such cases of great vehicles where you wouldn t survive an accident is it only me or is safety not one of the most important factors when buying a car definitely safety is an important criterium for me when buying a car i won t buy a small car like a civic or whatever great safety handling speed for me seems to me that you would be more dead in a small car than a large car after an accident gerrit
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re manual shift bigots as a matter of interest does anyone know why autos are so popular in the us while here in europe they are rare just wondering john kissane motorola ireland ltd o o uucp uunet motcid glas kissanej mahon industrial estate internet kissanej glas rtsg mot com blackrock cork ireland u
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re warning please read in article r d d s agate berkeley edu bh anarres cs berkeley edu brian harvey writes rfelix netcom com robbie felix writes how about the thousands of kind teenagers who volunteer at local agencies to help children seniors the homeless hear hear thanks robbie you also don t read that much about violence against teenagers such as george bush burying alive tens of thousands of unarmed iraqi year olds who were trying to surrender with bulldozers i didn t know george bush could drive a bulldozer kee ripe jim grey jwg acd acd com
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re water in trunk of probe in article r crn g transfer stratus com tszeto sneezy ts stratus com tommy szeto writes water gradually builds up in the trunk of my friend s ford probe every once in a while we would have to remove the spare and scoop out the water under the plywood carpet cover on the trunk i would guess this usually happens after a good thunder storm a few qs is this a common problem where are the drain holes located for the hatch i had the same problem in my mx luckily i had it fixed under warranty i think they replaced a tail light gasket check with a dealer it s a known problem robert k abbott abbott tps enet dec com
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mr car cover for sale for sale fitted car cover specifically for mr top of the line evolution tm fabric used for less than months the cover is in excellent condition no rips cuts stains or other blemishes it has grommets for a locking cable the color is silver price f o b will ship collect please contact wchutt monsanto com or phone at after pm cdt
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re opel owners in article c sxi j b news cso uiuc edu cka uxa cso uiuc edu oriolefan uiuc writes gibbonsa fraser sfu ca darren gibbons writes i m looking for information on opel cars now you ask which model well the sad truth is i m not entirely sure but it s a two seater with roll over headlights hard top and really sporty looking my friend has one sitting in his yard in really nice condition body wise but he transmission has seized up on him so it hasn t run for a while does anyone have any info on these cars the engine compartment looks really tight to work on but it is in fine shape and i am quite interested in it thanks darren gibbons gibbonsa sfu ca this would be the manta would it not sold through buick dealers in the mid s as the price leader chintan amin llama uiuc edu if it looks like a miniature corvette it would be an opel gt the headlights are flipped over by pulling a lever inside chintan amin the university of illinois urbanachampaign mail llama uiuc edu sig under construction hard hat area
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re mr noisy engine in a previous article eliot lanmola engr washington edu eliot says in article r vofinn usenet pa dec com tomacj opco enet dec com thunderbirds are go writes are there any mr owners or motor head gurus out there that know why my mr s engine sounds noisy the mr s engine is noisy at the best of times but not even a nice nose it s one of those very ugly noises assuming yours is a non turbo mr the gruffness is characteristic of a large inline that doesn t have balance shafts i guess toyota didn t care about little details like that when they can brag about the mid engine configuration and the flashy styling myself i automatically cross out any car from consideration or recommendation which has an inline larger than liters and no balance shafts it is a good rule of thumb to keep in mind if you ever want a halfway decent engine if the noise really bugs you there is nothing else that you can do except to sell it and get a v eliot nice theory too bad the mr s never came with a four cylinder over liters more like or did they were the nonturbo mr ii s or some such i also understand that anyone using balancing shafts on four cylinders must pay saab a royalty for using their patented design like porsche s i c ya drew
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re water in trunk of probe tszeto sneezy ts stratus com tommy szeto writes water gradually builds up in the trunk of my friend s ford probe every once in a while we would have to remove the spare and scoop out the water under the plywood carpet cover on the trunk i would guess this usually happens after a good thunder storm a few qs is this a common problem yes this is a common problem the leaks occur through the seal of the taillights unfortunately ford has this with most probes and does not have a recall for it very dissatisfying to say the least where are the drain holes located for the hatch there is no drain holes that i know of i used a margine tub to drain it regretably i waited three months as i was short cash and they wouldn t fix it under warrantee then i paid dearly as it messed up my electrical system including a balance motion sensor which is located near the fuel shutoff in the trunk this resulted in my passive restraints malfunctioning they would not retract so i ended up paying about to have the sensor replaced to have the tail lights resealed they firts replaced the hatch gasket which i insisted was not the problem so they did not charge me for that when i proved to be right not to mention the water damage to the covers to the trunk spare com partment and algae in the taillights very annoying don t let the water problem go get it fixed or you ll pay more later considering how common a problem it is i hope every one complains to ford thanks for any info tom tom szeto no not those peanuts the ones on the tszeto sneezy ts stratus com bottom ggnuuaahuuhh include disclaimer h homer simpson
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re are bmw s worth the price in article ceylon gte com hhd harvey gte com horace dediu writes in article pvjlninnckf daffy sps mot com shantanu risc sps mot com shantanu ganguly writes some comments a good performance and mid and high speeds can be obtained by adjusting the top gear and final drive ratios contrary to popular misperception a number of japanese cars have quite good performance from in top gear no problem with that the question is do they perform consistently in all conditions roads winds and curves at that speed and do so for hours on end year after year without giving the driver white knuckles from my experience on the autobahns autostrade a good touring car can be easily distinguished by its poise at mph the best stay on cruise control at for hours i ve seen the typical boy racer in a fiat try to keep up sure they hit the century mark but if the wind blows the wrong way they change lanes and if on an overpass they may fly right into a guardrail the buffeting at can be severe enough to make the hood bend tires at can melt and a pothole can kill many german cars are designed for this environment even if they can t seem to get out of their own way from a stop light mercedes come to mind in particular and another design point is fuel economy at those speeds the germans gear the car for very good high speed efficiency a typical m b e turns at almost a stall good point i have no idea how either of my hondas will handle at mph nor do they reach however using high to be mph a they are quite amenable to long high speed drives i ve done several k mile trips in my civic with no problems whatsoever the last big trip i made was driving from new york to texas i remember driving miles a day at typically mph without any problems i m sure i would have been more comfortable driving a benz but no white knuckles no problems with winds and curves then there was the trip back from new orleans after mardi gras where we were doing all the way to houston no problems b both my cars have surprising good fuel economy at high speeds i see no difference between sustained mph and sustained mph on the trip back from new orleans we got about mpg in my integra quite ok mind you the engine revs to almost k at the civic is markedly better than the integra in fuel economy k miles down the road i still get mpg at mph driving b i can t understand why these high scale european marquees are afraid to design engines that can be repeatedly revved to near redline in the low gears i have been doing that for that last k miles with my lowly civic with no detriment to either the engine or the clutch and getting excellent mpg to boot i d call this an engineering hack to cover up design deficiencies at k miles you d still be breaking in a high scale european marquee they typically are designed to last miles per engine mi per chassis the record is now over miles on a benz diesel and i ve read about transmissions lasting miles speaking of now now you can t compare a diesel with a gasoline engine i see enough bmws and gasoline mercs for sale that have k miles on them and advertise rebuilt engines if honda was to build an accord for k i d darn well expect the sucker to last k miles diesels they have very good efficiency at the cost of acceleration and are very popular in all european cars diesel is considered the green fuel from the smallest econoboxes to the luxo barges again we see a difference in mentality diesels in the us are considered slightly worse than useless and extremely dirty to boot so you can t give them away ever got caught behind a early s sdl at a stop light it s not pleasant the newer mb s are a lot better though the diesel volvos and vws are probably the smelliest offenders as for economy why should we care gas is cheap i personally wouldn t buy a diesel car for any reason what does it buy me shantanu ganguly somerset motorola phone motorola inc mail drop oe fax william cannon drive w austin tx email shantanu ibmoto com oakhill sps mot com
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re bimmer vs beamer mark monninger markm latium wrote although not in direct response to the referenced article just to set the record straight beamers are bmw motorcycles bmw cars are bimmers please let s get our terms straight actually some purists would argue that the only true bimmer is a round tail light or mark back when i was building round tail light s they were bimmers it was only when the red suspendered reganomics generated quiche eating yuppies got into the market that they became beamers and the hood ornaments started disappering andrei
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car alarm info ungo box i want to get a car alarm and i am thinking about getting an ungo box does anyone out there have any knowledge or experience with any of these alarms how about price ranges for the different models are these good car alarms please email me any responces cak ns lehigh edu chad chad
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re water in trunk of probe the rubber drain plugs under my carpet in my mazda glc leaked like the ones are doing under your spare in the probe i tooke them out and put some silicone sealant on them and put them back in
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re viper in article c jnha ib murdoch acc virginia edu rmt r faraday clas virginia edu roy matthew thigpen writes last night i had a dream that my dad bought a viper i took it out for a test drive without his knowledge and had to push it all the way home just to avoid a ticket wierd dream i wonder what it means you probably should told you dad to buy that car than your dream might come true
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re saturn s pricing policy in article qn m c s vela acs oakland edu mje pookie pass wayne edu writes i just ordered a saturn sl after considering a few imports frankly the saturn stuff deleted saturn also has a good extended warranty program for year k miles fully refunded if you don t use it that works out to an actual cost of or so based on the year treasury rates using savings account rates it s more like in the first three years it also buys you free rental during any warranty work without counting against the refund mike in general extended warranties are a ripoff this yr k is really only yr k because you get the yr k one free with the car also is there perhaps a deductible you pay each and every time you use the warranty also are certain items excluded from coverage on the extended warranty and if you use it at year for some buck job and pay a deduct and then you have used it so no refund ever again extended warranties are ripoff high profit items for the dealer
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re plymouth sundance dodge shadow experiences they are pretty much junk stay away from them they will be replaced next year with all new models junk they ve made the c d lists for years due to their excellent handling and acceleration they have been around since about oh or so they re not the newest on the lot and mileage is about five to eight mpg under the class leader you can get into a l v hp shadow for k the i turbo a bit more and a droptop for k
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re toyota land cruiser worth it my wife and i looked at and drove one last fall this was a model it was wayyyyyyyyy underpowered i could not imagine driving it in the mountains here in colorado at anything approaching highway speeds i have read that the new models have a newer improved hp engine i m quite serious that i laughed in the salesman face when he said once it s broken in it will feel more powerful i had been used to driving a jeep l hp engine i believe the s land cruisers land yachts were l the sames as the runner which is also underpowered in my own personal opinion they are big cars very roomy but nothing spectacular tom vervaeke email tvervaek cs itc hp com hewlett packard co phone i love animals they taste delicious
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questions about insurance companies esp geico i m considering switching to geico insurance but have heard that they do not assign a specific agent for each policy or claim i was worried that this might be a real pain when you make a claim i have also heard that they try to get rid of you if you have an accident i m interestend in determining whether or not these things are true has anyone out there with geico made a claim i d be interested in hearing whether or not you were satisfied with the service and whether you then had trouble renewing your policy i m also interested in any good or bad stories about liberty mutual or state farm
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