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re feedback requested on lowering mustang in article x xz b w w vllyoak resun com jp vllyoak resun com jeff perry writes i have found a kit advertised for lowering the front end of an early mustang installation envolves moving the upper a arm and installation of a wedge shaped spacer between the a arm and ball joint apparently shelby mustangs did a similair modification but left out the spacer i would be interested in feedback pro or con on such a modification i m no mustang head but don t the early ones have a simple strut suspension that is with no upper a arm just a strut going down to a lower control arm single bushing not an a arm with a tension compression rod locating it in the forward backward direction anyway simple strut suspensions like this can be lowered just by using shorter springs cutting the springs lowering the spring perch or shortening the strut below the perch in each of these cases the suspension geometry will suffer because the lower control arms will not be at the intended angle a spacer placed between control arm and the bottom of the strut roughly the height of the reduction will restore the suspension geometry imho the kit that includes the spacer is the only way to go ken ken r dye an optimist is a guy lachman technology inc chicago that has never had x much experience dye lachman com archy
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re warning please read in article c h qz kya boi hp com wesf boi hp com wes fujii writes brian larose larose austin cs utk edu wrote i never saw the guy the police said they thought the motive was to hit the car have us stop to check out the damage and then jump us and take the truck please be aware of folks and for your own good please don t stop sad this sort of thing is on the rise across the country south florida is getting a lot of national tv coverage on the subject where vacationers are being attacked and some killed in schemes similar to this make that worldwide coverage i know numerous people who were planning holidays to the florida and have now chosen another non us destination you expect this sort of thing perhaps in third world countries but not the us kevinh hasler ascom ch
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re sho and sc in article unisql uucp wrat unisql uucp wharfie writes in article chrissc qb d b netcom com chriss netcom com chris silvester writes wagon which i have heard is somehow slightly faster than the coupe wagon has an automatic it s slower could be due to the rear end ratio also usually automatics have different rear ends than manuals from my limited experience anyways david david w hwang m d university of michigan medical school wall street suite c telephone ann arbor michigan internet david ganglion ann arbor mi us
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the kuebelwagen sorry for the mis spelling but i forgot how to spell it after my series of exams and no on hand reference here is it still possible to get those cute wwii vw jeep wanna be s a replica would be great i think tkh if i can convert a c to a c t i can do anything not
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aussie needs info on car shows hi from australia i am a car enthusiast in australia i am particularly interested in american muscle cars of the s and s all makes amc ford chrysler mopar gm i will be in the usa for weeks from may nd to june chicago sun may thursday may denver friday may sunday may austin texas monday may friday may oklahoma city friday may monday may anaheim california tuesday may thursday may las vegas nevada friday may sunday may grand canion monday may tuesday june las angeles san diego and vicinity wednesday june sunday june june south lake tahoe cal sunday june wednesday june reno thursday june san fransisco thursday june sunday june i was wondering if anyone could send me any information of car shows swap meets drag meets model car shows etc during this period can anybody tell me when the pomona swap meet is on this year also any places to visit eg car museums private collections your collection etc any bit of information is appreciated i am also interested in finding some model cars scale models i am intersted in amc cars of particular interest is amx javelin scrambler rebel machine and others if you have any kits plastics diecast etc and are interested in selling them tell me i will be interested i can also send bring you models of australian high performance cars if you are interested please reply by email to johnt spri levels unisa edu au thanks john tsimbinos
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aussie needs info on usa car shows swap meets hi from australia i am a car enthusiast in australia i am particularly interested in american muscle cars of the s and s all makes amc ford chrysler mopar gm i will be in the usa for weeks from may nd to june chicago sun may thursday may denver friday may sunday may austin texas monday may friday may oklahoma city friday may monday may anaheim california tuesday may thursday may las vegas nevada friday may sunday may grand canion monday may tuesday june las angeles san diego and vicinity wednesday june sunday june june south lake tahoe cal sunday june wednesday june reno thursday june san fransisco thursday june sunday june i was wondering if anyone could send me any information of car shows swap meets drag meets model car shows etc during this period can anybody tell me when the pomona swap meet is on this year also any places to visit eg car museums private collections your collection etc any bit of information is appreciated i am also interested in finding some model cars scale models i am intersted in amc cars of particular interest is amx javelin scrambler rebel machine and others if you have any kits plastics diecast etc and are interested in selling them tell me i will be interested i can also send bring you models of australian high performance cars if you are interested please reply by email to johnt spri levels unisa edu au thanks john tsimbinos
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thunderbird i just bought a t bird and would like any info on a club in and around the the b c coast eric thomas
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re warning please read in article apr hasler ascom ch kevinh hslrswi hasler ascom ch kevinh writes in article c h qz kya boi hp com wesf boi hp com wes fujii writes brian larose larose austin cs utk edu wrote i never saw the guy the police said they thought the motive was to hit the car have us stop to check out the damage and then jump us and take the truck please be aware of folks and for your own good please don t stop sad this sort of thing is on the rise across the country south florida is getting a lot of national tv coverage on the subject where vacationers are being attacked and some killed in schemes similar to this make that worldwide coverage i know numerous people who were planning holidays to the florida and have now chosen another non us destination you expect this sort of thing perhaps in third world countries but not the us in response to this and other articles that have been written on this subject i would like to say that it is not just a us problem in southern ontario last summer there were several instances along the where people mainly truckers were shot at from overpasses there are many sick people out there and it makes you wonder what the worlds coming to kevinh hasler ascom ch
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re jeep wrangler opini in article db vu vlsi ee vill edu mobasser vu vlsi ee vill edu bijan mobasseri writes how do i square this with a respectable resale value easy if it s expensive to buy new it s gonna be expensive to buy used a patently false statement try this logic on an alfa in fact marketplace has a wonderufl mechanism to adjust the value of the cars that are overpriced by the manufacturer if it is expensive to buy new it is not necessarily expnesive to buy used in fact it could be real cheap to buy used depending what that car is of course note that i do not question your statements on the reliability of wrangler i have never owned one driven one or been in one i do love to have one though what i don t understand is why this apparent neglect of quality for so many years has not filtered down into the used market is jeep so intoxicating so irresistable and so seductive as to make its purchase a fatal attraction bijan yep they are popular vehicles you don t see a lot of previous model year ones sitting on dealer s lots for any lenghth of time after the new ones are out the things sell they are popular because they are popular and high priced new they are high price used very simple i knew they were overpriced when i bought it i knew they had a terrible reliability record when i bought it but i didn t expect anything like i got especially with a dealer network unable to repair it personal experience has quickly cured me of my infatuation with the machine dave
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re too fast jimf centerline com jim frost writes there are a few things to keep in mind about europe since you brought it up my autobahn knowledge is admittedly second hand but i believe the following to be true my knowledge about driving in the u s is also second hand but i think i can correct your statements about our autobahn drivers are much better disciplined in europe than they are here oh yeah that would be paradise in fact you can forget it from all i ve heard from my u s relatives drivers esp here in germany are much more agg ressive but not disciplined one of my relatives a l a resident hired a car at the nuernberg airport and went about miles to our home he said then that he grew about year older during this ride and swore he d never drive a car in germany again this was in and he kept his promise the situation now is even worse as effect of the increased volume of traffic what you mean by better disciplined should perhaps be considered cautious due to fear when driving around here you always have to take into consideration that the majority of the other drivers absolutely relies on you they expect that nobody fails or sleeps many of them exploit this by driving as fast as their car can go of course only where that is allowed you might think dream on so any mistake you make is a very high risk to your health and if you re ex posed to such a situation from your very first day as a driver you learn to handle it or you lose that s the way i and most people i know experience our traffic situation whether you think this is pleasant or efficient is up to you i think we handle a very high volume of traffic and that at high speeds with modest compared to the volume and decreasing rates of lethal accidents otoh more and more people esp women dislike driving because they feel overtaxed and threatened and each accident is one accident too much the roads comprising the autobahn are much better designed than they are here and usually include animal fences this makes them far more predictable than most us highways better designed and maintained may be but animal fences are very rare auto bahnen and many other streets have guard rails i hope that s the right word a plank made from thick steel sheet fixed on uprights it s about feet high those guard rails are designed for keeping vehicles on the road smaller animals can crawl under the plank bigger ones can easily jump over it the point is that esp larger animals are very rare in germany they tend also to be very timid accidents caused by animals are a neglegible danger not all of europe is the autobahn most places in europe have speed limits that aren t out of line with what we used to have in the us if my friends weren t lying to me they re typically not much higher than km h you re right there are speed linits even on the major part of the autobahn but the attitude towards driving see above seems to be very similar to that in germany i ve been in france switzerland italy austria spain belgium the netherlands besides that you really can t rely on the residents abiding the local speed limits i ve got quite a lot of practise k miles and i m used to travel at mph fyi with a car even smaller than a rabbit but i consider driving on the highways round paris or milano really a thrill i strongly suspect you won t find a lot of rabbit owners doing mph nearly km h on the autobahn but i could be wrong sorry but you ll find quite a lot rabbit class car or even smaller mine is a peugeot owners going that fast small cars with much hp are very hip over here and most people buying such cars aren t afraid to let them run some people have no respect for their own lives i disagree the size or weight of a car is rather irrelevant formula cars weigh less than kg and the drivers have a chance to survive accidents at mph or higher otoh when crashing against a solid object at mph it makes no difference whether you sit in a porsche a mercedes a tank or on a bicycle your re dead bye stefan stefan dalibor dalibor immd uni erlangen de and now for the next case in kangaroo court i accuse you of being the reincarnation of adolf hitler i don t think that mere denials will be sufficient you will have to submit to examinations by a parapsychologist that i personally select perry metzger pmetzger shearson com in article in news admin policy
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re ad said nissan altima best seller i too was puzzled by this obvious untruth what i think is going on is that nissan claims that the altima is the best selling new car namelplate in the us i think i have this near verbatim lee iaccoca s statistics dept would have been proud of that sentence note that the corolla prism are also new designs but hey are not new nameplates i guess nissan doesn t even sell as many altimas as toyota does corollas or there would be no nameplate qualifier
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re super mega automobile sighting s exotics together give out the address i ll drive by and take a look myself then post stephen phillips atlanta response center atlanta ga home of the braves
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re tires for ford ranger pickup i have had good luck with my ranger and yokohama s m tires the tires have been wearing well and even the few times i have hauled heavy loads they have done well
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re ford and the automobile rwong eis calstate edu russel wong writes hello my name is russell wong and i am doing a research project on henry ford and his automobile i need information on whether ford is partially responsible for all of the car accidents ya he cut me off on the other day he drives like a crazy person i d have to say he s responsible for most accidents they really should pull his licence steve alan kulwicki winston cup champion
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re ford probe opinions centered around the gt in article apr sco com nathanp sco com nathan writes jeremy g mereness zonker cmu edu says can anyone offer any opinions of the ford probe ala how they do in the long run repair records reliability mileage etc i am fixing to buy a car in the next few months aiming toward something a little bigger than a typical small car and with a little more power i am considering the mx probe accord corolla and the sx i bought a probe gt with the pep a last july now at miles after debating over the sentra se r nx mx mr stealth prelude and celica the car design is different than earlier years so it s too early to see its reliability so far for what it s worth my comments my dislikes shutting door with windows up from inside rarely makes good wind seal some other owners on the ford probe world std com mailing list have commented about this problem but i haven t seen it happen on my month old probe gt i think this may be something that ford has corrected since the initial batch of cars also someone said that ford has issued a service bulletin to inform dealers about how to correct this problem so you may be able to get your dealer to fix it headlights have stuck up a few times weather air conditioning broke miles pressure cycling switch condensation around rear washer fluid container doesn t drain completely haven t seen any of these problems nor have i seen these mentioned on the mailing list so these might just be having bad luck with these crammed engine little hope for do it yourselfers typical definitely parts somewhat more expensive than normal ford parts underside plastic doesn t like sharp driveways and speedbumps typical assembly gripes tape on radiator screw fell out of dash seat seams not stitched properly hopefully just a fluke no problems like these either i haven t been able to find any obvious places where they screwed up ford only gives key with the car c mon ford spend an extra few pennies hmmm i got two keys with my car something tells me you got stiffed by your dealer on this actually if you count the credit card key that came in the owner s binder i got keys but since the credit card key doesn t have any teeth cut in it yet i guess i won t count it rear hatch has no padding on corners when up i m waiting for the day when i bash my head on the corner horn buttons behind air bag in spokes and not in center personal preference the latter is probably because of the air bag it s pretty much takes up all the space where you d expect to find the horn speaking of the horn i was surprised to find that the probe comes with one of those nice merican sounding horns instead of the japanese sounding kind the previous probes had japanese horns tires fling dirt mud onto side of car yeah not very badly but enough to be annoying sometimes my likes engine design valves sounds smoothness power mileage torque definitely handling very good for fwd understeer only at limits transmission the speed is a must usable instrumentation lovely readable analog everywhere very little torque steer at full power much better than the sho i drive stability at mph high gearing though low cowl good visibility in front heated outside mirrors nice in fog never tested in freezing weather abs air bag see above rear seats fold down i have few rear seat passengers so a trunk not important no shake rattle noises when going over bumps potholes still tires vr goodyear eagles left hoping for k i agree strongly with all of the above especially about the engine the interior is very very nice too very pleasing to the eye and ergonomically sound i drive it to and from work each day on relatively smooth roads and most noticable thing is that the probe s suspension doesn t like potholes when you test drive one find a potholed road somewhere around town and see if the jarring you get is tolerable yes this car s stiff suspension isn t for everyone i personally like it but if you find it a little harsh but otherwise like the car i d strongly suggest looking into the mx if you have passengers by all means bring them along too they ll find that they have no room in the back and you ll find that the car rides differently if that s better is up to you the problem with the back seat is that there s no leg room plenty of head room though shorter people fit back there without any complaints so long as the seat they are sitting behind is pulled forward a bit to give them a place to put their feet also there s a lot of glass around you which i wasn t expecting the temperature inside the car gets pretty hot in the summer my back seat passengers now very few complain about the lack of ventilation you may want to consider that when combined with the heat the power moonroof can greatly improve the ventilation throughout the car i really enjoy the moonroof by the way but then i ve always been a sucker for open air driving no leakage problems or anything like that yet i ve heard that the exhaust system has trouble but mine works fine i haven t heard about this one i know that some of the very early probes and maybe had problems with prematurely rusting mufflers which ford will replace at no charge but i haven t heard about anything like this concerning the probes i haven t had any real trouble with this car outside of a cv joint boot that was leaking but the dealer took care of that promptly and even gave me a free rental car for the day and a half that i was without my car i was quite happy with the way they handled especially considering that i was expecting the worst from them from what i ve heard it sounds like ford mazda had some qc problems with the probe and probably mx when they first went into production but i think these problems have mostly been corrected at this point that s almost always to be expected with a completely new car like this though hope this helps chuck chuck kesler internet chuck eos ncsu edu unix systems programmer us mail box ncsu campus engineering computer operations 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sticky lock on tailgate my toyota runner has a rolldown rear window with a keylock switch it sticky on me yesterday it was tough to get the key to work and it also happened to stick on in the up direction so the stalled motor was powered all night killing the battery i d like to try to lubricate the lock switch what should i lubricate the lock with email please thanx ken don t drink american corporate swill support you local micro brewery me
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renting from alamo hello netters i m visiting the us i m from sweden in august i will probably rent a chevy beretta from alamo i ve been quoted for a week for additional days this would include free driving distance but not local taxes baltimore they also told me all insurance thats necessary is included but i doubt that cause a friend rented a car last year and it turned out he needed a lot more insurance than what s included in the base price but on the other hand he didn t rent it from alamo does anyone have some info on this is a rip off probability that i ll be needing more insurance is the beretta a good rental car thanx markus
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re dumbest automotive concepts of all time nancy hayduke nancy feagans writes ashtrays and cigarette lighters these should be an option gm at least is heading in that direction one of the post sale questions they asked me was if i d like the choice of a cigarette liter or an accessory plug and another whether i d like the choice of an ashtray or a cup holder the geo storms have the cigarette lighter vs accessory plug option which did not exist in the i bought i m not sure about the ash tray vs cup holder it s a step in the right direction the ashtray does make a convenient change holder so it s not completely useless jim frost jimf centerline com
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re no haggle deals save you can be sure they wouldn t do it if it wasn t to their advantage mark
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re ford probe opinions centered around the gt in article apr ncsu edu chuck eos ncsu edu chuck kesler writes rear hatch has no padding on corners when up i m waiting for the day when i bash my head on the corner horn buttons behind air bag in spokes and not in center personal preference the latter is probably because of the air bag it s pretty much takes up all the space where you d expect to find the horn all toyotas have airbags with a real horn come on how hard can it be to put a little pressure plate there i hope toyota doesn t follow everyone else and make the horns little buttons that i wouldn t want to fumble for john john nielsen magnus consultant to you baldrick the renaissance was just something that happened to other people wasn t it the black adder
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re it s a rush was re too fast in article c r y f d mentor cc purdue edu marshatt feserve cc purdue edu zauberer writes i guess i wasn t clear enough here i said the roads were designed for speeds of or so and still be safe the current will add a saftey margin they were designed for speeds of upwards of i forget the exact spec but for military vehicles that s in a dodge powerwagon not in a ford taurus
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re where can i get a new york taxi in article c r a rb srgenprp sr hp com almanb sr hp com bob alman writes hose h o s e dork d o r k
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super mega automobile sighting s exotics together alright beat this automobile sighting driving along just a hair north of atlanta i noticed an old run down former car dealership which appeared to deal with and repair older rare or exotic foreign sports cars i saw ford gt the famous model from ford that seemed to win most of its races in the late s including le mans or times two jensen interceptors one a convertable one a hatchback porsche boring compared to the rest three ferarries a mondial a prepared for racing and a red s model that i couldn t identify and at the bottom a late s mg convertable outside there was a rotting rover saloon which was never regularly sold in the u s and in the showroom there was a small italian body either an alpha romeo or a lancia it was about the size of an austin mini the trunklid was missing exposing a boot with a voltage regulator in the upper left corner of the wall and a chunk of metal removed from the floor on the right hand side as if something would leave the trunk and go to the outside from here the taillights looked like they would be the round type if they were there does anyone know what the make of this one is certainly made my day graham e thomas blah blah blah blah blah georgia institute of technology blah blah blah blah blah internet grahamt oit gatech edu blah blah blah blah blah
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re mercury capri restrictions the restriction could have to do with the car being a convertible a lot of paronoid laws were passed concerning convertibles in the s these states may require greater rollover protection than the capri affords thatch harvey thatch harvey uucp no longer valid domain thatchh hplsla hp com hewlett packard lake stevens instrument division lake stevens wa merkur xr ti suzuki gsx g prince sr d sports racer
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re removing rain x coat on the front windshield any tips if you want a summer without rain you re in the wrong place you must not have been here a whole year yet keep the rain x handy my friend thatch thatch harvey uucp no longer valid domain thatchh hplsla hp com hewlett packard lake stevens instrument division lake stevens wa merkur xr ti suzuki gsx g prince sr d sports racer
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re it s a rush was re too fast in article unisql uucp wrat unisql uucp wharfie writes in article c r y f d mentor cc purdue edu marshatt feserve cc purdue edu zauberer writes i guess i wasn t clear enough here i said the roads were designed for speeds of or so and still be safe the current will add a saftey margin they were designed for speeds of upwards of i forget the exact spec but for military vehicles that s in a dodge powerwagon not in a ford taurus ah yes the powerwagon now there was a vehicle that today s cars can t touch in terms of high speed road holding ability
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re blast to the past amh ns cc lehigh edu alois m himsl writes be worthwhile or how about something like the old mgb with new technology just think about it the old style with upgraded safety features and perhaps a natural gas operated engine for less than k i think it would go over well what is your opinion al h well the mgb is currently in production for the english market built by rover it now has a v improved suspention and a slightly updated body too bad it s only available in gb and would set one of us back about graham e thomas blah blah blah blah blah georgia institute of technology blah blah blah blah blah internet grahamt oit gatech edu blah blah blah blah blah
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re zx or sc ip ns cc lehigh edu danny phornprapha writes i m getting a car in the near future i ve narrow it down to zx and sc which might be a better choice thanks for your opnion danny i ve been asking myself this same question for the past year so if when you find out would you please share the magistic answer with me the way i see it right now work twice as hard so you can have both cheers issa my suggestion is why not work twice as hard like issa suggested above then get acura nsx enjoy seb
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re grand am cyl in article holcomb apr wgermany ctron com holcomb ctron com edgar w ii holcomb writes in article apr remus rutgers edu wilmott remus rutgers edu ray wilmott writes hi all a while back i was asking for info about a few different models the grand am being one of them response was generally favorable one thing often repeated was go for the v for some real power point well taken but does anybody have any input on the cylinders both the standard ohc and the quad ray the high output quad delivers hp for the wf quad whereas the l v offered in the grand am delivers hp i own a beretta gtz ooppss the v in the grand am is the litre not the the is a downsized version of buicks litre v the v goes in the beretta and corsica
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re buick heater controls i had the exactly same problem with my lesabre it was also from cal what i did was go to the local junkyard and pick up a diaphragm from a lesabre with the same heater set up it worked for me but a little bit slow to change from vents to defogger better than nothing
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re improvements in automatic transmissions in article qugvu ai quad wfunet wfu edu hagenjd wfu edu jeff hagen writes thanx to all those who responded particularly those never driven an xxx but here s what it s like guys ok we all know that new age at s are great in traffic and do a satisfactory job in acceleration when you keep your foot buried in the carpet my question regards downshifting not downshifting to pass at s are good at this now but manually moving the lever to or at a point where you would downshift a manual e g approaching a red light or a curve or just tooling around a parking lot in st or nd w o shifting this is why i m still a manual trans bigot the downshifting for deceleration seems so natural when i try this in an automatic the tranny doesn t seem to understand what i want addendum isn t it great after downshifting while approaching that red light when the light goes green and you re already on cam or the turbo s already spooled up zippppppppppp hagen hagenjd ac wfu edu i have a grand am with auto and quad around the gear selector there is a plastic strip which covers the space so you can t see inside anyway i took the cover off and cut the end of this long strip to a specific length the strip curls up into a cirlce at one end inside anyway by doing this the strip can t feed into the lip that circles it so i can push button pull down and the gear shifter will only go back to from drive no accidental hitting first i drive around town in to keep the revs up shift to drive above and pull down to when coming up to lights if i want if i am eating food i drive in drive there are probably aftermarket shift kits that will accomplish the same thing porsche s tip tronic automatic can be driven like an auto or put into mode tip up upshift tip down downshift of course there is an override so you don t redline the engine
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re braindead drivers who don t look ahead in article tekig pen tek com jitloke tekig pen tek com jit loke lim writes in article apr cbnewsd cb att com hhm cbnewsd cb att com herschel h mayo writes anybody is going anywhere so i block the would be passers not only for my own good but theirs as well even though they are often too stupid to realize it ah we are looking for good people just like you we are a very concerned group of citizens who are absolutely disgusted at the way that the majority of drivers simply disobey traffic rules like going above the speed limit passing on our right and riding our tails while all the while we respectfully abide by the rules of this great country and maintain the mandated speed limits with our calibrated certified cruise controls while keeping the respectful car length distance mph speed how many times have you been ticked off by some moron who jumps ahead in the car lengths that you have left between you and the vehicle ahead of you while driving mph finally you have an option we are a totally member supported group that perform functions for our own good for the good of this great country but most of all for those unfortunate ones that are too stupid to realize it bless their souls for a paltry you can join citizens for rationally advanced piloting c r a p a non profit members only society but but but there is a slight hitch the initiation rite to be a full fledged member of this exclusive club you must proof that you are able to be in the fast lane of the busiest interstate in your area keep the correct car lenth mph speedand i know this can be difficult with those morons around not let anybody pass you not in the next lane not in the slow lane not in the breakdown lane not nowhere for a complete list of acceptable interstates and times send and by the way over of our members are highly regarded attorneys in the auto field and they are completely absolutely positively in the business only to serve your best interests as a testament to their virtues they will give members off the initial consultation fee feel free to drop me a line at your earliest convenience and remember only speed kills jit of course you are a bunch of arrogant lawyers who know whats best for the rest of us you are doing such a wonderful job with our judicial system getting all the criminals off i bow to your superior intellect not to mention the fees you collect from us poor slobs who get tickets from speeding state police officers so you can soak is when we go to court i just love lawyer jokes don t you c
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re alarm systems are they worthwhile in article apr news eng convex com dodson convex com dave dodson writes is it worthwhile to get an alarm system on a new car although others have in the past and will continue to disagree i think that it is worthwhile to get an alarm what features are important i think that it is important to protect your trunk engine bay all doors i d get flashing lights led s mounted on the drivers and passenger door and a relay to disable engine operation toss in a glass break sensor and shock sensor door lock and unlock two remotes and panic feature are also nice to have most important is where you have the installation done some places may cost a little more but a poorly installed alarm no matter how much it cost will be a major burden what features are unimportant imo things like engine starters voice alarms window sunroof open and close and most other conveniences dave dodson dodson convex com convex computer corporation richardson texas larry keys csmes ncsl nist gov oo v fahrvergnugen forever the fact that i need to explain it to you indicates that you probably wouldn t understand anyway
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re dumbest automotive concepts of all time in article oasys dt navy mil glouie oasys dt navy mil george louie writes in rec autos nancy hayduke nancy feagans writes ashtrays and cigarette lighters these should be an option why make it an option you can use the ashtray to store coins and other small things which come in handy use the cigarette lighter as an electrical outlet for all types of handy gadgets cd players vacuum cleaners flashlights etc i don t want to pay extra for these things and if you don t use them they don t hurt you i use the ashtray to keep change and other items in i converted the cigarette lighter into a volume control knob for my in trunk subwoofer george larry keys csmes ncsl nist gov oo v fahrvergnugen forever the fact that i need to explain it to you indicates that you probably wouldn t understand anyway
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re warning please read in article apr erich triumf ca music erich triumf ca fred w bach writes in article c r iy v ssd intel com jrowell ssd intel com janet rowell writes could we plase cease this discussion i fail to see why people feel the need to expound upon this issue for days and days on end these areas are not meant for this type of discussion if you feel the need to do such things please take your thought elsewhere thanks exactly my point there is a lot of hostility to and from teenagers if you follow the news for the northwest usa you will have heard that a group of year old boys barely out of the teens certainly their outlook was developed during their teens just shot and killed an innocent little girl riding in a car in the seattle area when her mother who was driving honked her horn at the car with the boys in it this is really upsetting and makes my stomach turn as it would any parent s doesn t your heart just go out to that poor mother teenagers both drive cars and are involved in automotive vandalism and crime maybe someone on this newsgroup has had specific experience in dealing with violent teenage offenders like these kids are at the same it seems sad that people lose all perspective when they here about a case of violence by teenagers for a little perspective how about the thousands of kind teenagers who volunteer at local agencies to help children seniors the homeless did you read about all the kids at stanford who spent their spring breaks helping out in inner city areas what about the hundreds of volunteers teenagers and others who worked to clean up the mess after the rodney king riots in la have you gone to your local high school play recently attended the school orchestra performances have you seen how many kids volunteer to pick up trash plant trees do walk a thons how many kids have tried to sell you stuff to benefit organizations they belong to how many girl scout cookies have you bought how many chocolate bars for good causes the media picks up on all the anomalies the sensational what about the wonderful teenagers all over the place who work hard at school get good grades go to college or to work and make a real contribution to our society all humans are teenagers at some time in their lives mother theresa was a teenager and so was geoffrey dahmer it is really sad to see so many people who buy the sensational reporting of the media as some kind of reflection of the world today it is a reflection of what is happening on the outer fringes of our society and nothing more rf
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re alarm systems are they worthwhile in article apr news eng convex com dave dodson dodson convex com writes is it worthwhile to get an alarm system on a new car what features are important what features are unimportant that is a question that can only be answered by yourself and where you live if you live in a place where crime is apparent then it might be a good idea to get one simply as a deterrent however if a professional thief wants your vehicle its as good as gone no matter what you do but to slow down any thieves it would be a good idea to get the basic options that would be ignition kill or fuel cut off a flashing red led these two are basic to a decent alarm system to slow down the criminal some more get a steering wheel lock that should be sufficient to persuade the thief to find an easier target but then there s always car jacking why is life so confusing i hope i helped somewhat jason yow human factors psychology program wright state university dayton oh e mail jyow desire wright edu
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fast idle on ford ranger it did it again this morning my ford ranger was idling at rpm ok so i exaggerated a little but it was idling very fast it has a liter carburated engine in it and no blipping of the throttle would cause the idle to drop back to normal i don t think the linkage is stuck what can i do to fix this problem this has been a problem from time to time but has straightened itself out until now i don t have a tach but by gauging by the sound of the engine it is idling about twice as fast as it should be this is down from what it was idling at when i pulled up at a stop light many thanks for any suggestions les les bartel i m going to live forever intergraph corporation or die trying electronics division ljbartel ingr com or ljbartel naomi b b ingr com
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re ad said nissan altima best seller i guess that makes altima the most generic car in the us
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re no haggle deals save a local dealer is advertising no negotiation necessary make you wonder
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re ford probe opinions centered around the gt jeremy g mereness zonker cmu edu says can anyone offer any opinions of the ford probe ala how they do in the long run repair records reliability mileage etc i am fixing to buy a car in the next few months aiming toward something a little bigger than a typical small car and with a little more power i am considering the mx probe accord corolla and the sx the probe is the youngest of the bunch thus my interest in opinions but every magazine and ratings book places it as an excellent value btw the sx is rear wheel drive and is due for a re design for thanks in advance while i don t read normally read this group i was looking for valentine radar information sigh maybe in the faq and came across your posting i bought a probe gt with the pep a last july now at miles after debating over the sentra se r nx mx mr stealth prelude and celica check this month s consumer reports for previous probe records my criteria a fun car with abs airbag over hp and less than k i thought about a turbo but checking with insurance people ruled that out the tri star cars eclipse talon etc were out since they don t have an air bag ditto for the mustang also no abs the se r nx m fell into the pocket rocket category a good used car buy the mx was almost there but rolled more than i liked i didn t like the prelude dash instrumentation at all too weird for me the mr has a much smaller non passenger space than i needed so out that went the celica was ok but underpowered when loaded with options and somewhat overpriced too in non turbo form i never considered the sx since it didn t have an airbag i did look at it for its rwd virtues but that s it the corolla never entered my mind i should have looked at the mitsubishi vr dodge stealth more since my list was exhausted i bought the probe the car design is different than earlier years so it s too early to see its reliability so far for what it s worth my comments my dislikes shutting door with windows up from inside rarely makes good wind seal headlights have stuck up a few times weather air conditioning broke miles pressure cycling switch condensation around rear washer fluid container doesn t drain completely crammed engine little hope for do it yourselfers typical parts somewhat more expensive than normal ford parts underside plastic doesn t like sharp driveways and speedbumps typical assembly gripes tape on radiator screw fell out of dash seat seams not stitched properly hopefully just a fluke ford only gives key with the car c mon ford spend an extra few pennies rear hatch has no padding on corners when up i m waiting for the day when i bash my head on the corner horn buttons behind air bag in spokes and not in center personal preference tires fling dirt mud onto side of car my likes engine design valves sounds smoothness power mileage torque definitely handling very good for fwd understeer only at limits transmission the speed is a must usable instrumentation lovely readable analog everywhere very little torque steer at full power much better than the sho i drive stability at mph high gearing though low cowl good visibility in front heated outside mirrors nice in fog never tested in freezing weather abs air bag see above rear seats fold down i have few rear seat passengers so a trunk not important no shake rattle noises when going over bumps potholes still tires vr goodyear eagles left hoping for k as you can see i m primarily interested in the engine while it doesn t have the uummmph of a big liter car or the turbo rush the big selling point for me was the all aluminum value liter engine the overall car is a good buy for the money that market segment hasn t changed much since july prelude vtec honda del sol i drive it to and from work each day on relatively smooth roads and most noticable thing is that the probe s suspension doesn t like potholes when you test drive one find a potholed road somewhere around town and see if the jarring you get is tolerable if you have passengers by all means bring them along too they ll find that they have no room in the back and you ll find that the car rides differently if that s better is up to you also there s a lot of glass around you which i wasn t expecting the temperature inside the car gets pretty hot in the summer my back seat passengers now very few complain about the lack of ventilation you may want to consider that when combined with the heat i ve heard that the exhaust system has trouble but mine works fine leather and the keyless entry system weren t available when i got the car so i can t comment on them i got the car before it was officially announced i prefer cloth to leather anyway i wouldn t want this car in the snow the suspension is too rough for the inevitable surprise potholes tires aren t meant for snow and the seats assume that you re not wearing lots of thick clothing rain is much better water generally beads off the windshield at freeway speed the windshield wiper controls are easy and understandable and i barely hydroplaned once with the eagles and i was really trying there is also a definite lack of cup holder small storage places the gt has map holders below the speakers in the door but they re rigid plastic that could fit two cassettes or cd s max the center console storage bin arm rest has cup holder and the back of the front seats have a cloth pouch but that s it no change holders quite a let down from the sho and the probe is definitely not a people mover car or an econo box car lastly don t store wet car covers in the back the foam will soak the water up and the result will not smell pleasant nathan nathan sco com jeremy mereness support ye olde disclaimer zonker cmu edu internet free the above represent my fast project cmu gsia software opinions alone b s mechanical engineering cmu ya gotta love it every silver lining s got a touch of grey this year marks the th anniversary of the bill of rights mx nathan sco com no comment they re coming to take me away 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re auto air conditioning without freon we are working on gas solid adsorption air con system for auto applications in this kind of system the energy for regenerating the adsorbent is from the exhaust gas anyone interested in this mail email me or follow up this thread we may have a discussion on prospects of this technology max max g q lu phd internet mgqlu ntu ac sg division of thermal enginerring bitnet mgqlu ntuvax bitnet school of mpe nanyang technological university phone nanyang avenue singapore fax
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re warning please read tobias convex com allen tobias writes in article apr virginia edu ejv j virginia edu erik vel this happened about a year ago on the washington dc beltway snot nosed drunken kids decided it would be really cool to throw huge rocks down on cars from an overpass four or five cars were hit there were several serious injuries and sadly a small girl sitting in the front seat of one of them was struck in the head by one of the larger rocks i don t recall if she made it but i think she was comatose for a month or so and doctors weren t holding out hope that she d live what the hell is happening to this great country of ours i can see boyhood pranks of peeing off of bridges and such but pound rocks has our society really stooped this low erik velapold society as we have known it it coming apart at the seams the basic reason is that human life has been devalued to the point were killing someone is no big deal kid s see hundreds on murderous acts on tv we can abort children on demand and kill the sick and old at will so why be surprised when some kids drop lbs rocks and kill people they don t care because the message they hear is life is cheap at well people fortunatly or unfortunatly only the us is experiencing the devaluation of human life among developed nations i am an american but i was raised in europe where the worst thing that can happen to somebody is get his car broken into or have his pocket picked by slaves or russian refugees of cource there will be some nutcases but thats extremely rare i e in greece you can walk through any neighborhood at any time during the night without even worrying in germany you can walk the sidewalks at am and not even look behind your back at the sanitation crews that clean the streets to a sparkling cleen whoever of you have been there you know what i am saying i dont have any easy answers but if we as a nation do some selfcritisism we might get somewhere of course these postings sould be in soc culture us but if we reduce crime here it ll mean less car insurance rates thus we could spend more money on modifing our cars now my posting is rec autos tech revelant vlasis theodore software engineer idb mobile communications sig under development
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re warning please read neilson seoul mpr ca robert neilson writes sorry for the auto content but that is why low abiding citizens should have the power to protect themselve and their property using deadly force if necessary anywhere a threat is imminent steve heracleous you do have the power steve you can do it why don t you why don t you go shoot some kids who are tossing rocks onto cars make sure you do a good job though don t miss cause like they have big rocks and take it from me those kids are mean ditto i you dont do it yourself nobody will unless i am behind you so both of us can shoot them bastards
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re changing oil by self in article apr rtfm mlb fl us gwalker rtfm mlb fl us grayson walker writes why crawl under the car at all i have a machine i got for my boat that pulls the oil out under suction through the dip stick tube it does an excellent job and by moving the suction tube around you can get more old oil out than by using the drain plug i think i paid at e b marine the oil goes into a steel gal can wait until it cools and decant into your favorite device i use soft drink bottles easy to take them down to the local oil recycle center this does sound good but i heard it tends to leave more grit etc in the oil pan also i ve been told to change the old when it s hot before the grit has much time to settle any opinions bryan welch amateur radio n sfg internet europa vnet ibm com best bwelch scf nmsu edu everything will perish save love and music scots gaelic proverb disclaimer it s all opinion everything so there
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re warning please read in article c joit e bcstec ca boeing com neil bcstec ca boeing com neil williams writes larose austin cs utk edu brian larose writes this just a warning to everybody on the net watch out for folks standing next to the road or on overpasses they can cause serious harm to you and your car just a cliff notes version of my story follows pm last night i was travelling on the interstate here in knoxville i was taking an offramp exit to another interstate and my wife suddenly screamed and something large hit the side of my truck we slowed down but after looking back to see the vandals standing there we drove on to the police station she did get a good look at the guy and saw him cock his arm with something the size of a cinderblock but i never saw him we are very lucky the truck sits up high on the road if it would have hit her window it would have killed her the police are looking for the guy but in all likelyhood he is gone i am a very good driver knock on wood but it was night time and i never saw the guy the police said they thought the motive was to hit the car have us stop to check out the damage and then jump us and take the truck please be aware of folks and for your own good please don t stop peace brian larose larose cs utk edu essary rd knoxville tn as long as we re on the subject several years ago myself and two others were riding in the front of a toyota pickup heading south on interstate north of seattle wa someone threw a rock of an overpass and hit our windshield not by accident i m sure it was impossible to get up to the overpass quickly to see who did it we figured it was kids reported it and left a couple of years ago it happend again and killed a guy at my company he was in his mid fourties and left behind a wife and children turned out there was a reformatory for juviniles a few blocks away they caught the year old that did it they put a cover over the overpass what else could they do i don t think i ll over forget this story in des moines iowa about a year ago some kid dropped a rock from an overpass and hit car just behind the windshield it put a dent in the roof so i guess i was lucky it hit metal it s frustrating that we can t do much bother the city government to put covers on all overpasses slow down speed up a bit when driving under all overpasses in the city i like the first better but that will take time and lots of people talking to the city governments just another bryan welch amateur radio n sfg internet europa vnet ibm com best bwelch scf nmsu edu everything will perish save love and music scots gaelic proverb disclaimer it s all opinion everything so there
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re too fast boyle cactus org craig boyle writes the quality of autobahns is something of a myth the road surface isn t much different to a typical tx freeway they are better in terms of lighting safety signs roadmarkings etc they light the highways in texas funny everywhere else i ve been they only light em at junctions i won t even get into how much road markings vary between states and localities except to say that there are some areas where markings are essentially nonexistant than most of the roads here a dip in the asphalt that you test your shocks on at will kill you at don t get me wrong i love to it would have to be quite severe i don t recall any us freeway without road damage warnings that i would regard as unsafe at in any decent well damped car i suspect you have very limited experience us freeways vary dramatically particularly between states i can name a number of interstate highways in various parts of the country where would be very optimistic in any car i m not sure what you call quite severe in terms of road deviations but i suspect every single bridge junction on i through ct would be considered so they re hard to take at mph that s not the only interstate i ve seen with such deviations but it s one i drive frequently texas is pretty much an edge case you can t assume that everywhere has roads in such good condition such flat terrain and such wide open spaces it just ain t so jim frost jimf centerline com
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re it s a rush was re too fast wharf wrat rites they were designed for speeds of upwards of i forget the exact spec but for military vehicles that s in a dodge powerwagon not in a ford taurus ever once in a while you still see a reference to the super slab system as interstate and defense highways but whether the military has much of anything that goes on the road is another matter a few of their most whomped up diesel trucks maybe load permitting the military surplus stuff i ve driven jeep classic willys kaiser amc pre independent suspension and power wagons slant in a crew cab pickup weren t exactly congenial at highway speeds and i wouldn t swear any of them would do except as a bedload on a semi you just gotta love the standard military tire too or at least the one they used to use designed circa ww ii as a compromise between traction in icky sticky goo and longevity on sharp rocks and so forth it s quite ill adapted to high speeds on civilian roadways for those who can t remember what they look like imagine a mountain bike tire with a road rib in the middle scaled up to car size oh yeah and narrow too one of the standard mods for civilizing a surplus jeep was to install tires and wheels that reflected some of the advancements made in ride and handling since d day but the point made by wharfie and others still stands if you re going to do in a mil spec power wagon or a jeep or a tank transporter or other unwieldy rubber tired vehicle anywhere i d suggest the american interstate your safe speed there tends to be limited more by your car and skills road maintenance and the swarms of fools around you the roads were designed for going like the devil naturally neither i nor my employer advocates unsafe or unlawful driving joe just another personal opinion from the people s republic of berkeley
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importing volvo well i m afraid the time has come my rice burner has finally died i d always promised my wife that we would do a scandanavian tour when my car died and pick up a volvo in sweden drive it around and then import it home can anyone give me advice on feasibility and relative costs references where i might learn more personal experience please email thanks
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selling a car through a car hunter anybody got any good bad experience with selling their car through one of those car hunters i m selling a dodge stealth r t and i was contacted by this company called the markham group based out of illinois they said they have buyers in my area interested in my car or they wouldn t be talking to me they talked to me for a good minutes asking everything about my car and said they could sell it no problem they guaranteed that if they didn t sell my car in days i would get my money back and since i charged it i m protected by federal law which states that if i m not satisfied i would get a refund which is true they federal expressed all the paperwork to me which had a contract stating their policy about the days and such i called up the bbb in illinois and they do not have a file on them which is good news so they definitely are a legitimate company but so far it s been over week and i have gotten nothing so how effective are these types of companies anybody care to share their experiences
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re trading in a car that s not paid for pointers please in article fibercom com rrg rtp fibercom com rhonda gaines writes i m planning on purchasing a new car and will be trading in my mazda mx dx i ve still got more years to pay on it how does that get taken into account when i purchase my new car does the dealership pay off my car and add on the amount they had to pay to the purchase price of the new car someone please explain this to me if you don t already know it you should call the bank credit union finance company that holds the loan on your present car and get the current payoff cost if you are trading in your current car on the new car subtract the payoff amount from the trade in the dealer is giving you if this turns out to be a negative number you need to reconsider the deal subtract this difference from the price of the new car this is the size of the loan you will need for the new car the dealer will take care of paying off the loan on your old car out of the money you give them when you pick up your new car at least that s how it worked for me years ago in ohio thanks rhonda joseph staudt telxon corp joes telxon com p o box usenet is like tetris for people who still akron oh remember how to read x j heller
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re ford and the automobile ford and his automobile i need information on whether ford is partially responsible for all of the car accidents and the depletion of the ozone layer also any other additional information will be greatly appreciated thanks sssssoooooooooooo its all his fault thank god louis chevrolet is innocent and that guy diesel he otto feel guilty stephen phillips atlanta response center atlanta ga home of the braves
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re warning please read rfelix netcom com robbie felix writes how about the thousands of kind teenagers who volunteer at local agencies to help children seniors the homeless hear hear thanks robbie you also don t read that much about violence against teenagers such as george bush burying alive tens of thousands of unarmed iraqi year olds who were trying to surrender with bulldozers on the other hand i think it is true without singling out teenagers for blame that violence is more socially acceptable than it used to be those of us who d like to discourage violence have plenty of work to do with people of all ages
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water in trunk of probe water gradually builds up in the trunk of my friend s ford probe every once in a while we would have to remove the spare and scoop out the water under the plywood carpet cover on the trunk i would guess this usually happens after a good thunder storm a few qs is this a common problem where are the drain holes located for the hatch thanks for any info tom tom szeto no not those peanuts the ones on the tszeto sneezy ts stratus com bottom ggnuuaahuuhh include disclaimer h homer simpson
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re eagle talon tsi lemon in rec autos jay lorenzana u uicvm uic edu wrote dear netters i am looking to buy a used eagle talon or tsi awd i would be concerned about how the car was driven and how well it was maintained i own a turbocharged one and i would never buy a turbocharged vehicle unless i knew the owner and his her driving maintenance habits question is that the tsi awd was mentioned in the april consumer reports to a car to avoid i have been wondering about that myself the awd models and the s were identical except for the abs option in particular the manual transmission yes some owners had problems with the transaxles using synthetic lubricants in the transaxles solved the problem in most cases the problem was not unique to the awds however it was common to all models the galant vr and gsx had the same transaxle but i didn t see those listed in cr electrical system i don t know of any major complaints in this area except that the battery that was installed at the factory had a low current rating and brakes were below par in both models the first fwd models those built before may were recalled for brake upgrades some fwd and awd owners had problems with warped rotors those of us who insist on using manual torque wrenches every time the lug nuts are tightened have never had a problem a friend of mine ownes a tsi awd and he has had brake jobs pads i can refer you to someone who has gone through a set of pads in one day it all depends on how you drive it seems that most owners have been getting between k on a set of pads one stuck valve first time i hear about a problem with the valve train on these cars other than timing belt failures and some clutch transmission problem something about sticking grinding into second gear this doesn t seem too bad if one beats on his car if your friend beats on the car then his unit is not a representative sample of the car s reliability my suggestion is instead of listening to the useless consumer reports talk to several owners the mailing list may be the best way to reach a few of them i am willing to suffer reliability for speed and looks seems you have to pay big buck if you want all three anyway can anyone please let me know how you like your talon and any problems you may have had and if the repairs are worth it if humor impaired skip to theend no matter how much you pay you won t get all three examples nsx reliability and looks ferrari reliability h h h h h h yeah right speed and looks theend the opinions stated above are not necessarily my employer s roberto l landrau kc yp landrau mitre org rll linus mitre org the mitre corporation bedford ma rll linus uucp
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is car saftey important i was recently thumbing through the lemon aid new car guide what i found was a car would be given a recommended under the picture while a few sentences later noting how a driver and passenger were virtually guaranteed to be killed in a front end collision the most highly recommended small car the civic has the worst crash rating of all of the small cars listed there were many such cases of great vehicles where you wouldn t survive an accident is it only me or is safety not one of the most important factors when buying a car
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re renting from alamo in article apr ericsson se etxmst sta ericsson se writes hello netters i m visiting the us i m from sweden in august i will probably rent a chevy beretta from alamo i ve been quoted for a week for additional days this would include free driving distance but not local taxes baltimore they also told me all insurance thats necessary is included but i doubt that cause a friend rented a car last year and it turned out he needed a lot more insurance than what s included in the base price but on the other hand he didn t rent it from alamo does anyone have some info on this is a rip off no that sounds pretty reasonable for that car and that city probability that i ll be needing more insurance unless you have an accident you won t need more if you plan on paying for the car with a credit card check and see if your card automatically covers rental cars also your own auto insurance may cover rental cars also most rental companies here offer extra insurance when you rent and require you to initial in several spots if you don t want it the credit cards and personal auto insurance provide the same sort of coverage that the rental agency is trying to sell i have never rented from alamo so i don t know if they follow this same practice is the beretta a good rental car yes it is a compact door probably a bit dull performance and acceleration wise but very adequate it will have an automatic transmission am fm stereo air conditioning and possibly power windows and door locks joe joseph staudt telxon corp joes telxon com p o box usenet is like tetris for people who still akron oh remember how to read x j heller
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re manual shift bigots in a previous article eric youngblood says in article apr engr washington edu eliot stalfos engr washington edu eliot writes race car stuff deleted back to the f stuff for a second note that the auto tranny in f still shifts at the driver s command not some preselected schedule the driver still controls the shifting not the transmission now there is no dispute that in production cars automatics are inherently more lossy than manuals that is in theory my point all along is that whatever mechanical advantages a manual has over an automatic can very easily be lost by a driver who isn t skillful or one thing that gives an automatic an advantage at launch is the fact that it has a torque converter vs a clutch i know this sounds strange but a torque converter multiplies the engine output when launching it functions as a sort of limited continuously variable transmission typically you get a torque multiplication of to times depending on the stall speed i have yet to see a torque multiplier installed on a production automobile such systems do exist but none are presently installed in production autos that i am aware of these are commonly called viscous drive cvts or fluidic amplifiers contrasted to a clutch which merely slips when feathered result is no tq mult what the convertor does allow is for the engine to be closer to its torque peak during the launch before a clutched car can fully engage it s driveline chevy proved it many years ago with the camaro ets and terminal mile times were close enough tpo be identical for speed and auto cars note that this is also the major reason that an auto car can get away with fewer gears than a manual the slip in the convertor makes up for the fewer ratios and before everyone starts yelling about the proposed sspeed autos soon to be out note that some manufacturers are using speed manulas now once past lauch however the converter begins coupling and the tq multiplication effect is reduced but by then you should be on the cam correct al bowers dod alfa ducati hobie kottke blad iaido nasa well goodness sakes don t you know that girls can t play guitar mary chapin carpenter
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internal leak in carburetor hi my friend s toyota tercel accelerates by itself without using the gas peddel the repairman said it has a internal leak of air in the carburetor and needs a new carburetor costs she likes to know if it is possible to fix the problem without replacing the whole carburetor thank you
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bbb autoline arbitration my bbb autoline arbitration experience is over the outcome was decidedly mixed i won the battle but lost the war the arbitrator found that the car was defective but decided to offer a repurchase well below market value at the time of the hearing average retail on my truck in the nada book was but the decision was for i wrote a letter to the council of better business bureaus pointing out the fact that if you have an automobile that does not depreciate rapidly the manufacturer has no incentive to deal with you there is no way that the manufacturer can loose because they can turn around and sell the vehicle at a profit if the consumer is awarded a repurchase the attitude of chevrolet s representative at the hearing tends to support this point of view he was totally unprepared and did not seem to take the proceeding very seriously i decided to take the repurchase even though i am getting totally screwed on the price i will not have to deal with continuing repairs or selling a lemon myself and i have no case for a civil suit based on the idaho lemon law i am planning to send a letter to my elected representatives telling them how utterly ridiculous the idaho lemon law is the law allows for a use deduction equal to the irs mileage allowance as if chevrolet were buying my gas and paying for my insurance summary of the case in may i bought a new ton hd chevrolet pickup between may and december this vehicle required repair after repair systems that required attention included the transmission heater fan paint suspension and motor the main problem was the five speed manual transmission they could not install a non defective transmission in at least four attempts so in summary it is possible to get a repurchase but you are going to get screwed on the price unless you paid too much in the first place or if your car happens to be a model that depreciates rapidly jackw hpdmd boi hp com
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re warning please read in article apr erich triumf ca music erich triumf ca fred w bach writes xref taco alt parents teens rec autos path taco gatech howland reston ans net zaphod mps ohio state edu saimiri primate wisc edu caen destroyer cs ubc ca unixg ubc ca erich triumf ca music from music erich triumf ca fred w bach newsgroups alt parents teens rec autos subject re warning please read date apr pst organization triumf tri university meson facility lines distribution world message id apr erich triumf ca references c joit e bcstec ca boeing com apr erich triumf ca qs a f bigboote wpi edu c r iy v ssd intel com nntp posting host erich triumf ca summary violent teenagers and victims need help keywords brick rock danger gun violent teenagers news software vax vms vnews in article c r iy v ssd intel com jrowell ssd intel com janet rowell writes could we plase cease this discussion i fail to see why people feel the need to expound upon this issue for days and days on end these areas are not meant for this type of discussion if you feel the need to do such things please take your thought elsewhere thanks i just want to second this request i value this net group as one where people focus on solving problems and go out of their way to be respectful of differences the hostility expressed in the original posting feels like an assault thanks jan exactly my point there is a lot of hostility to and from teenagers look i sent these posts here to alt parents teens with a copy to rec autos since you people in this group may have the best advice for and experience with troubled teenagers if you follow the news for the northwest usa you will have heard that a group of year old boys barely out of the teens certainly their outlook was developed during their teens just shot and killed an innocent little girl riding in a car in the seattle area when her mother who was driving honked her horn at the car with the boys in it this is really upsetting and makes my stomach turn as it would any parent s doesn t your heart just go out to that poor mother yes fred my heart and prayers go out to the mother and others who have been victims of these and other senseless crimes you folks in this group have a responsibility to offer any good advice that you may have i suspect lots of people all over the world will read and appreciate your comments however i feel that you have missed the point of the previous postings see top your statement of responsibility is felt as an attack towards the members of this group you are attempting to make the members of this group be required to answer the only people who should make a statement are people who have experienced the problem and found a workable solution teenagers both drive cars and are involved in automotive vandalism and crime maybe someone on this newsgroup has had specific experience in dealing with violent teenage offenders like these kids are at the same time maybe you would have some good advice for those hostile people who sense that are now the potential victims maybe you would have some good advice for them on how not to pay back and or not make the situation worse maybe you have some good advice for local authorities or schools where this problem is prevalent but then again maybe you re not interested many people are interested but have no input i will restate that your last sentence here is seen as an attack on the members of this group if people have input they will give it if they do not you should not make them feel compelled sp to respond if you wish to continue this conversation please send e mail do not repost or attempt to bait me i will not make another post and may i make the same a suggestion to other group members on this matter thanks in advance for your help if we get any btw your welcome jerry l storrs system network manager why do you look for the living dept of chemical engineering ncsu among the dead he is not here storrs che ncsu edu preferred he is risen storrs eos ncsu edu luke the lord is risen indeed any statement made is the explicit belief of the writer and not the employer
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re wife wants convertible nuet ke pts mot com keith nuetzman x p writes help my wife has informed me that she wants a convertible for her next car jp vllyoak resun com jeff perry writes fyi just last week the pbs show motor week gave the results of what they thought were the best cars for in the convertible category the honda civic del sol achieved this honor the one down side i see with the car is its interior it looks inexpensive and dull i own a del sol and i must vouch for the interior i really looks snazzy when the top is off i looks a lot better in person than on the television i saw that motorweek as well needless to say i was smiling a bit by the time it was over watch out for that darned convertible tan tho diane dspalme mke ab comm
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re vw passat advice sought in article apr remus rutgers edu hong remus rutgers edu hyunki hong writes i am currently in the car market and would like opinions on a vw passat glx how does it compare to a toyota camry i thought the car looked very solid stable and european only disappointment so far is that that it doesn t offer an airbao my next question is why isn t vw offering automobiles with airbags should i pay the extra three thousand for a bmw is even though it is smaller and less powerful than than the passat i think vw got caught out on the airbag thing it s only been in the last year or two that airbags have become a significant selling feature vw assumed that automatic belts would satisfy govt requirements for passive restraint but didn t guess that the merican consumer would actually make buy decisions based on the presence of an airbag vw is really hurting right now in the us market check out the article in last week s autoweek about the crisis at vw golfs and jettas will be coming from the plant in mexico but they don t have the quality at that facility as per normal vw practice the us launch of the jetta iii is delayed again and again until a good chunk of the useful life of the design is spent i think that passats come from germany so there is not the same quality and availability issue it s a nice car with a nice engine whether vw will be a player in the us market in two year s time is a different question i ll leave the passat camry flamewar for someone else
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re auto air conditioning without freon in article apr ntuix ntu ac sg mgqlu ntuix ntu ac sg max lu writes we are working on gas solid adsorption air con system for auto applications in this kind of system the energy for regenerating the adsorbent is from the exhaust gas anyone interested in this mail email me or follow up this thread we may have a discussion on prospects of this technology ok i ll bite how is this supposed to work tim
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re chevy sprint in wfnmbjg wboe l c andrew cmu edu srinagesh gavirneni sg andrew cmu edu writes i have a chevy sprint with a c and doors it s odometer turned k and the sensor light started blinking i went to the dealer and he said it was a maintenance light saying i need to change the oxygen sensor he said it is to be changed every k but since i bought the car when it had k i don t know if the same thing happened at k and k he quoted for the part and to install it the part cost outside but the mechanic i went to could not fix it saying the sensor is placed too deep in the engine parts he suggested i wait till it malfunctions before i do anything if anyone out there owns a chevy sprint i want to know how they got their oxygen sensors changed also did you face any problem with fixing it without the dealer s help also what are the results of the oxygen sensor malfunction any help would be greatly apprecisted thanks i sold my sprint last april with k on it i d driven it since the previous july putting k miles on it the sensor light used to light up regularly starting about k miles after i bought it my brother and i rebuilt the engine but used all of the original equipment so i suppose the sensor could have used replacement performance hah if you could call it that did not change perhaps emissions increased but how much emissions could a ca registered cylinder engine produce that was a neat car i held the engine block easily in one hand has anyone ever driven the turbo variant just curious adam edwards awds ltd uhura cc rochester edu
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re i m getting a car i need opinions in article qqp o ba usenet ins cwru edu cf cleveland freenet edu chun h ung wan writes in a previous article ip ns cc lehigh edu danny phornprapha says i have as my budget i m looking for a sports or gt car what do you think would be the best buy i m looking for specific models thanks danny hey you programmers out there danny phornprapha please consider this ip lehigh edu bugs are another endangered earth lucc student konsultant species needing your protection work for an all out sports car i d go for the rx without the sports suspension which is too stiff for a little more practicality and more comfort the nissan zx turbo is a good buy and for a good dose of luxury the lexus sc is perfect with a manual transmission of course however the toyota supra is coming out soon and if you like it s looks the performance is supposed to be great almost race car like i don t particulary like the mitsubishi gt s or the dodge stealths as they are too heavy and aren t very nimble handlers for a sports car a motion picture major at the brooks institute of photography ca santa barbara and a foreign student from kuala lumpur malaysia the mind is the forerunner of all states the only thing about the zx turbo and new supra is they re about k or more over his budget be good and you will be lonely mark twain
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sport utility vehical comparisons any opinions i just read articals on this in road and track and car and driver is that one mag or two b and i was wondering if people out there have any opinions that differed from what these mags have to say i m looking at the following three suv s anyone who s driven all three have any strong opinions ford explorer toyota runner nissan pathfinder currently i m leaning toward the toyota cause i ve had big success with toyota trucks in the past and cause i think it s the best looking of the three but i thought i d see if anyone has any strong opinions thanks karl karl elvis macrae software release support cisco systems kmac cisco com or batman cisco com dod fj shovels and rakes and implements of destruction arlo guthrie
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re is car saftey important tcorkum bnr ca trevor corkum writes is it only me or is safety not one of the most important factors when buying a car it depends on your priorities a lot of people put higher priorities on gas mileage and cost than on safety buying unsafe econoboxes instead of volvos i personally take a middle ground the only thing i really look for is a three point seatbelt and mph bumpers i figure that mph collisions into brick walls aren t common enough for me to spend that much extra money for protection but there are lots of low speed collisions that do worry me jim frost jimf centerline com
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re warning please read in article apr magnus acs ohio state edu bqueiser magnus acs ohio state edu brian j queiser writes anything if he hadn t emptied his gun into the asshole texas it s whole other country that reminds me of one of texas s ads you hear a guy speaking in french like it s a letter home then the french moves to the background and a french accented voice come to the foreground talking about how he went walking on the beach and it felt so much like home that he decided to take his shoes off and the rest of his clothes it ended with please send bail on an rec autos note does anyone carry a gun on them or keep one in their car which is bad idea isn t it if you work in a bad part of town or regularly go through one is this a loaded question i normally have an unloaded colt delta in my glove box with a loaded magazine handy which is perfectly legal in oklahoma for those times that i m travelling inter state i keep an unloaded s w magnum revolver in the glove box with a speed loader in my pocket which is legal everywhere under federal law illinois state police be hanged as i ve said before this is stricly for defense my insurance will pay to replace my car but i only have one life james james p callison microcomputer coordinator u of oklahoma law center callison uokmax ecn uoknor edu callison aardvark ucs uoknor edu disclaimer i m not an engineer but i play one at work the forecast calls for thunder t bird sc it s a hell of a thing killing a man you take away all he has and all he s ever gonna have will munny unforgiven
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re slick any good hmmm i was listening to the local radio expert who is amazingly enough an honest to god expert tm it s amazing what he knows and he said that based on his conversations with the inventor of slick who is no longer with the comapny due to some kind of conflict he avoids it like the plague he does recommend other teflon based type oil additives though james james p callison microcomputer coordinator u of oklahoma law center callison uokmax ecn uoknor edu callison aardvark ucs uoknor edu disclaimer i m not an engineer but i play one at work the forecast calls for thunder t bird sc it s a hell of a thing killing a man you take away all he has and all he s ever gonna have will munny unforgiven
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re info opinions wanted on cars in this article in article apr magnus acs ohio state edu jnielsen magnus acs ohio state edu john f nielsen writes in article fibercom com rrg rtp fibercom com rhonda gaines writes i m in the market for a new car currently i own a mazda mx dx which has served me just fine however i d like to get a door car since i don t relish the thought of moving a carseat around in a door car my criteria are door a c am fm cassette quick acceleration cruise control decent rear seat legroom my husband is a footer it must also be under k preferably closer to the k range which will probably rule out the accord the cars that have caught my eye are toyota corolla toyata camry mazda pontiac grand am pontiac grand prix honda accord and civic if it s roomy enough and still comes in a door model hyundai sonata and maybe even a small oldsmobile although not the achieva all opinions benchmarks recommendations etc are welcome i really wouldn t consider the grand am achevia skylark all the same since they are very bad in frontal collsions and don t have any other really outstanding qualities john i really must object to that last statement having a lot of experience with a grand am coupe i can firmly state that they do have a lot of outstanding qualities very reliable throughout great layout of controls and components very roomy considering the exterior size of the car they look sharp inside and out the v that i drive has exceptional power and drivability compared to other similar cars that i have driven all in all it s a fun to drive dependable and reasonably priced vehicle please don t knock it with a statement like that unless you back it up with specific reasons why you feel that way rob bell plains nodak edu john nielsen magnus consultant to you baldrick the renaissance was just something that happened to other people wasn t it the black adder
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what car is this i was wondering if anyone out there could enlighten me on this car i saw the other day it was a door sports car looked to be from the late s early s it was called a bricklin the doors were really small in addition the front bumper was separate from the rest of the body this is all i know if anyone can tellme a model name engine specs years of production where this car is made history or whatever info you have on this funky looking car please e mail thanks il brought to you by your neighborhood lerxst
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re sport utility vehical comparisons any opinions i just read articals on this in road and track and car and driver is that one mag or two b and i was wondering if people out there have any opinions that differed from what these mags have to say depending on how you plan to use your suv i might recommend also browsing trailer boats and one or more of those pickup shotgun and wd magazines the car rags mostly seem to consider recently graded pea gravel to be offroading and ten sacks of redwood chips to be a bedload considering that most of these suvs seem to be used mostly as robust station wagons that s probably not a bad approach but if your applications are more demanding pick your information sources accordingly of the three vehicles on your short list explorer runner pathfinder i d recommend the runner as being closely based on a rather robust pickup and the explorer for being comfortably carlike don t know much about the pathfinder good luck joe just another personal opinion from the people s republic of berkeley
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re opel owners in article c sxi j b news cso uiuc edu cka uxa cso uiuc edu oriolefan uiuc writes gibbonsa fraser sfu ca darren gibbons writes i m looking for information on opel cars now you ask which model well the sad truth is i m not entirely sure but it s a two seater with roll over headlights hard top and really sporty looking my friend has one sitting in his yard in really nice condition body wise but he transmission has seized up on him so it hasn t run for a while does anyone have any info on these cars the engine compartment looks really tight to work on but it is in fine shape and i am quite interested in it thanks darren gibbons gibbonsa sfu ca this would be the manta would it not sold through buick dealers in the mid s as the price leader sounds a lot more like an opel gt to me i d guess that this is on the same chassis as the kadett rather than the bigger manta but i could easily be wrong i think the later kadett s were sold here as buick opels craig chintan amin llama uiuc edu chintan amin the university of illinois urbanachampaign mail llama uiuc edu sig under construction hard hat area
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mr noisy engine g day people are there any mr owners or motor head gurus out there that know why my mr s engine sounds noisy the mr s engine is noisy at the best of times but not even a nice nose it s one of those very ugly noises i do an oil change every months and for about months the engine noise sounds relatively quiet during driving and idling at around the month mark after an oil change i ve been tracking this very thoroughly for months now it starts to get that very disgusting noise not so much during driving but more so during idling what s its problem also i don t know if it s just me but if noticed a little performance drop it just hasn t got the acceleration it used to any help tips would be appreciated worried
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re super mega automobile sighting s exotics together in article qvgg innl r phantom gatech edu graham e thomas grahamt phantom gatech edu writes alright beat this automobile sighting i can top that one friday afternoon i look out my window in long beach ca what do i see but the new ferrari i looks like a mix between the ragtop testarossa sp and the batman car it seems ferrari had their annual dinner at the place downstairs sweet car j b
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re warning please read sorry about that last post my server neglected to send the message can we please keep this group to automotive topics thank you
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re opel owners boyle cactus org craig boyle writes in article c sxi j b news cso uiuc edu cka uxa cso uiuc edu oriolefan uiuc writes gibbonsa fraser sfu ca darren gibbons writes i m looking for information on opel cars now you ask which model well the sad truth is i m not entirely sure but it s a two seater with roll over headlights hard top and really sporty looking my friend has one sitting in his yard in really nice condition body wise but he transmission has seized up on him so it hasn t run for a while does anyone have any info on these cars the engine compartment looks really tight to work on but it is in fine shape and i am quite interested in it thanks darren gibbons gibbonsa sfu ca this would be the manta would it not sold through buick dealers in the mid s as the price leader sounds a lot more like an opel gt to me i d guess that this is on the same chassis as the kadett rather than the bigger manta but i could easily be wrong i think the later kadett s were sold here as buick opels craig i think the manta is the european name for the gt i m pretty sure that the only kadett s sold here were are the pontiac lemans i think the gt is just an early s to mid s manta chintan amin the university of illinois urbanachampaign mail llama uiuc edu sig under construction hard hat area
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re opel owners in article c sxi j b news cso uiuc edu cka uxa cso uiuc edu oriolefan uiuc writes gibbonsa fraser sfu ca darren gibbons writes i m looking for information on opel cars now you ask which model well the sad truth is i m not entirely sure but it s a two seater with roll over headlights hard top and really sporty looking gibbonsa sfu ca this would be the manta would it not sold through buick dealers in the mid s as the price leader chintan amin sounds more like an opel gt neat cars fun to drive sold through buick from through if i remember correctly i believe it was in that there were some engine mods made such that parts were not interchangeable with the older models parts are thus much harder to come by for the later models parts in general are not too difficult to find at one time jc whitney carried some stuff including a brand new not remfg long block either a gt or a kharman ghia hmm that spelling looks hosed will be my next project mark
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re for hail damage a record in article apr cactus org boyle cactus org craig boyle writes my integra was hit hard in the hailstorm in austin tx the insurance company cut me a check for deductible last week is this a record anybody else had settlements from the same hailstorm yet craig rumor has it that a guy at dell computer had his miata totalled so that would be about k john steczkowski stecz pencom com the constitution grants you the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness it does not attempt to guarantee that everyone will be happy
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new talon in article is there such a thing as the new eagle talon i heard from a freind that the new talons have been released is this true and if so what are the differences between the and any opinions i would appreciate any replies and i would also prefer e mail thanks hasit s mehta university of rochester primus sucks hm b uhura cc rochester edu i do believe in captain crunch for i am the frizzle fry
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re changing oil by self hanguyen megatest com ha nguyen writes in article apr progress com damelio progress com stephen d amelio writes bmoss grinch sim es com brent woody moss writes you could take a screw driver and hammer and start punching holes in various locations and when some black slippery stuff starts pouring out then you would know that the oil drain plug is nearby within a foot or two anyway close the holes with toilet paper before refileing with oil though you have to refill the engine with oil wow no wonder i can t get an engine to last more than my first oil change don t forget to punch holes in the radiator too it will spray nice refreshing water on the engine and keep it nice cool steve gee you really make me confused what is radiator where is it located what does it look like will it release any radiation since it sounds like radia tion genera tor when you punch holes of course it releases radiation thats why your car goes faster when you punch the holes in it all that radiation gets on your engine and gives it pep scientific term you get more horsepower torque too if you don t know what hp torque are you can read mile long threads on the subject but they are all wrong horsepower is how much power a horse can make pulling a subaru and torque is a name invented by craftsman for a wrench steve
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re warning please read in smn b w w cybernet cse fau edu vlasis cybernet cse fau edu vlasis theodore writes tobias convex com allen tobias writes in article apr virginia edu ejv j virginia edu erik vel this happened about a year ago on the washington dc beltway snot nosed drunken kids decided it would be really cool to throw huge rocks down on cars from an overpass four or five cars were hit there were several serious injuries and sadly a small girl sitting in the front seat of one of them was struck in the head by one of the larger rocks i don t recall if she made it but i think she was comatose for a month or so and doctors weren t holding out hope that she d live what the hell is happening to this great country of ours i can see boyhood pranks of peeing off of bridges and such but pound rocks has our society really stooped this low erik velapold society as we have known it it coming apart at the seams the basic reason is that human life has been devalued to the point were killing someone is no big deal kid s see hundreds on murderous acts on tv we can abort children on demand and kill the sick and old at will so why be surprised when some kids drop lbs rocks and kill people they don t care because the message they hear is life is cheap at well people fortunatly or unfortunatly only the us is experiencing the devaluation of human life among developed nations i am an american but i was raised in europe where the worst thing that can happen to somebody is get his car broken into or have his pocket picked by slaves or russian refugees of cource there will be some nutcases but thats extremely rare i e in greece you can walk through any neighborhood at any time during the night without even worrying in germany you can walk the sidewalks at am and not even look behind your back at the sanitation crews that clean the streets to a sparkling cleen whoever of you have been there you know what i am saying i dont have any easy answers but if we as a nation do some selfcritisism we might get somewhere of course these postings sould be in soc culture us but if we reduce crime here it ll mean less car insurance rates thus we could spend more money on modifing our cars now my posting is rec autos tech revelant vlasis theodore software engineer idb mobile communications sig under development i remember this happening on the i through michigan and ohio several years back a group of guys in an old beater would rear end a car usually out of state or canadians you stop and they smack you with a bb bat at least they didn t kill you for the sake of a car i think the cops put out decoys and this calmed down for a while vlasis are you safe walking through germany if you are a refugee
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monthly posting buick grand national regal t type mailing list monthly posting regarding the buick grand national regal t type mailing list this list is for owners and other parties interested in the buick grand nationals regal t types gnxs and other turbocharged regals discussions include technical information and parts sources particular emphasis is given to performance enhancements and racing to join or ask about the mailing list contact gnttype request srvsn monsanto com scott keller the agricultural group of monsanto company sekell bb t monsanto com ka wch packet ka wch k pfx mo usa na keeper of the buick grand national regal t type mailing list
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ignition kill i just wanted to thank all the netters out there who either posted a response or sent e mail regarding my ignition kill question now that i know how simple a procedure it is it looks like i ll be paying my local pep boys a visit this weekend mik
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re sho clutch question grinding noise in article unisql uucp wrat unisql uucp wharfie writes in article c h f ldu news rich bnr ca jcyuhn crchh nosubdomain nodomain james yuhn writes that s not the clutch you re hearing its the gearbox early shos have a lot of what is referred to as gear rollover noise you can generally i have one of the first shos built and mine doesn t make this noise geez wharfie do you have to be so difficult mine was built in december which qualifies as pretty dang early and it most certainly grinds away jim
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kubelwagen the answer to your question is sort of volkswagen had a much less robust version of this army vehicle out in the early s or thereabouts it was called the volskwagen thing and was of course a convertible i havent seen many around then or now good luck mik
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re dumbest automotive concepts of all time in apr slcs slb com dcd se houston geoquest slb com dan day writes in article c hhgm rm constellation ecn uoknor edu callison uokmax ecn uoknor edu james p callison writes in article apr slcs slb com dcd se houston geoquest slb com dan day writes how about those really ugly fake wheel compartments stuck onto the trunk or side or both sides of some tacky luxury cars some of em aren t fake if you re talking about the continental kit named after the lincoln continental the first car to sport one i personally would love to have a t bird with a continental kit and the supercharged v that is one of the most beautiful cars ever built imho i d go for a lincoln continental if i could find one sad part is that edsel ford designed it and look at the abortion they named after him ain t no justice okay i ll admit it looks nice on the t bird as a previous owner of and thunderbirds i m biased anyway
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re dumbest automotive concepts of all time in drutx att com klf druwa att com franklinkl writes in article c hhgm rm constellation ecn uoknor edu callison uokmax ecn uoknor edu james p callison writes in article apr slcs slb com dcd se houston geoquest slb com dan day writes in article q innb ctron news ctron com smith ctron com writes it s a big aftermarket business almost no cars come from the factory with vynal any more and any fake convertible job definitely came from some aftermarket place what amazes me is how much people are willing to pay for bad taste how about those really ugly fake wheel compartments stuck onto the trunk or side or both sides of some tacky luxury cars some of em aren t fake if you re talking about the continental kit named after the lincoln continental the first car to sport one i personally would love to have a t bird with a continental kit and the supercharged v that is one of the most beautiful cars ever built imho james the continental may have been the first modern era auto to mount the spare on the rear of the car but it was hardly the first car to sport one various mounting techniques for rear mounting the spare were quite common in early automobiles both us and foreign right in the thirties both buick and packard had two spares mounted in wells in the front fenders of course that was back when the front fenders were long enough to provide room there were a couple of other marques that did this as well but memory fades ken franklin they say there s a heaven for people who wait ama and some say it s better but i say it ain t gwrra i d rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints dod the sinners are lots more fun y know only the good die young
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re dumbest automotive concepts of all time in c hi b c constellation ecn uoknor edu callison uokmax ecn uoknor edu james p callison writes in article apr slcs slb com dcd se houston geoquest slb com dan day writes in article apr acs ucalgary ca parr acs ucalgary ca charles parr writes as a long time motorcyclist i have never understood what posessed auto builders to put delicate controls which must be used with skill and finesse like clutches and brakes on the floor why not hand control it s much much easier in the early days neither of these functions had power assist so only legs had enough strength to activate them since then it s been traditional and people would have a hard time getting used to anything else well where exactly would you put a hand clutch and brake on a motorcycle it s easy the handlebars have a very limited range of turning steering wheels on the other hand turn around and around and around which is fine for electrical relays like your cruise control and airbag but how many of you want to lose your clutch and or brake due to a short circuit shades of the edsel they had pushbuttons in the steering wheel hub that controlled the auto tranny it was very disconcerting to shift into reverse when turning a corner and the wires shorted there are workarounds but there s really no reason to use hand power on a car s clutch or brakes and lightening them to the point that they are finesse controls suitable for hand use would increse the mechanical complexity substantially look at power brakes and non power brakes for an example i saw an experimental car that had a joystick instead of a steering wheel that s about useless imho another automotive oddity is separate keys for trunks doors and ignitions why on earth would you want this i know i don t i want a separate trunk key for security reasons it gives me a totally separate lockable container for door and ignition ehhh the same key s ok i guess james james p callison microcomputer coordinator u of oklahoma law center callison uokmax ecn uoknor edu callison aardvark ucs uoknor edu disclaimer i m not an engineer but i play one at work the forecast calls for thunder t bird sc it s a hell of a thing killing a man you take away all he has and all he s ever gonna have will munny unforgiven
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re warning please read in article apr convex com tobias convex com allen tobias wrote society as we have known it it coming apart at the seams the basic reason is that human life has been devalued to the point were killing someone is no big deal kid s see hundreds on murderous acts on tv we can abort children on demand and kill the sick and old at will so why be surprised when some kids drop lbs rocks and kill people they don t care because the message they hear is life is cheap i think this is getting a little overheated highway robbers have been a part of life since the middle ages at least it s human nature to look at history through rose colored glasses but random acts of violence have been a ceaseless part of our heritage overall life is better now than it ever was then it s just that random individual acts of violence have never been historically significant and record keeping in the past was never good enough to retain them all steve wall
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re chevy sprint in article wfnmbjg wboe l c andrew cmu edu srinagesh gavirneni sg andrew cmu edu writes i have a chevy sprint with a c and doors it s odometer turned k and the sensor light started blinking i went to the dealer and he said it was a maintenance light saying i need to change the oxygen sensor he said it is to be changed every k but since i bought the car when it had k i don t know if the same thing happened at k and k he quoted for the part and to install it the part cost outside but the mechanic i went to could not fix it saying the sensor is placed too deep in the engine parts he suggested i wait till it malfunctions before i do anything if anyone out there owns a chevy sprint i want to know how they got their oxygen sensors changed also did you face any problem with fixing it without the dealer s help also what are the results of the oxygen sensor malfunction any help would be greatly apprecisted thanks nagesh i have owned my sprint from the beginning and that sensor light comes on every k to let you know it s time for a check up when that light goes on i just take it to the delaer tell them it s that time and they work on it for hou and you pay for parts and for labor ahh what they get for labor i currently have about k on my sprint and of all the times i took it in for service i never say on the payment sheet anything about the replacement of the oxygen sensor what the heck is an oxygen sensor as far an i know of i have never had that thing replaced in my car and the car is purring like a kitten now i don t have a c mother nature does that for me and that might have something to do with it but i still never heard of an oxygen sensor the only major service job i have had on my car besides getting the tires replaced if you want to call that a service job was getting the rotor distributor and gasket replaced and that was all done within the past months what i do at k is have a good tune up let them replace what ever they need to pay the bill about and go home and don t worry about the car for another k oh i just remembered something if that little sensor light bothers you in the fuse box right below the turn signal lever up against the dash there is a swith on the right side flip that switch and the light will go off i do that so that little light won t annoy me if you can t find it look it up in the car manuel i hope that i have helped a little and good luck with the oxygen sensor thomas e mail address give me an an army of west point tjz zeus tamu edu graduates and i ll win a battle give me a handful of texas aggies creator of mot power and i ll win a war gen george s patton
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re electronic odometers was used bmw question in article news duke edu klg mookie mc duke edu kim greer writes i was wondering if anyone can shed any light on just how it is that these electronic odometers remember the total elapsed mileage what kind of memory is stable reliable enough non volatile enough and independent enough of outside battery power to last say years or more in the life of a vehicle i m amazed that anything like this could be expected to work for this length of time especially in light of all the gizmos i work with that are doing good to work for months without breaking down somehow mk t from thomsom it has a timekeeper clock and bytes of nvram which has a lithium battery backup the battery has a life of years of poweroff operation installed in a car it could be left powered on continuously and not draw much current the battery would only be used when your auto battery was dead or had been removed side question how about the legal ramifications of selling a used car with a replaced odometer that starts over at miles after say k actual miles looks like fraud would be fairly easy for the price of a new odometer you can say it has however many miles you want to tell the buyer it has in california they have a line on the transfer of ownership form which states that the odometer mileage is correct if incorrect you are required to fill in what you know or guesstimate to be the correct mileage if you lie on this form and are caught you can be prosecuted and the buyer can sue you for the value of the mileage differential faster horses younger women older whiskey more money
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re re aftermarket a c units les bartel s comments sorry i can t help you with your question but i do have a comment to make concerning aftermarket a c units i have a frost king or frost temp forget which aftermarket unit on my cavalier and am quite unhappy with it the fan is noisy and doesn t put out much air i will never have an aftermarket a c installed in any of my vehicles again i just can t trust the quality and performance after this experience les let me add my in i had a a c installed by the ford garage and it did not work as well as the a c that was installed by the factory in pickups identical to mine i have talked to other people that have had the same result don t know if this is just a probable with ford or what ernie smith i agree never have the dealer add anything to your car if you want a c make sure it is factory installed honda s maybe excluded many can t be bought with a c installed at the factory but i think maybe they actually use all the needed parts for a true factory install when they put one in as in bigger radiator etc or are designed properly for this in the st place anyway my point is the dealer installed a c won t be anywhere near as good as factory and the service bums will mess up your car when installing it scratches screwdriver holes in seats parts not reinstalled correctly or with all the screws etc i know a guy who has been service manager at a gm dealer for years he said never have a dealer add anything to your car except maybe floormats
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master cylinder thanks to everyone who responded to my honda accord break question it does seem that the master cylinder is bad i will have my mechanic double check and be sure it isn t something simpler and cheaper first but from your responses it sounds like it is very likely to be the master cylinder thanks everyone joni
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wanted opinions on mg i was wondering if anyone out in net land have any opinions on mgs in general i know they are not the most reliable cars around but summer is approaching and they are convertibles i m interested in a mg but any opinions on mgs would be appreciated thanks dave dave kai chui chu dept of elec comp eng concordia university voice de maisonneuve w h fax montreal quebec canada h g m email davec ece concordia ca
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re another taurus sho question in article apr reed edu rseymour reed edu writes the taurus sho for those who can get it straight it is s h o as in super high output not sho as in show has a yamaha l dohc valves sho v having spoken to technical staff from ford many times i can assure you that internally at ford this car is always called the taurus show or just the show as in long o sound i still refer to it as the s h o however because it sounds better to me i assume many purist fans and owners prefer using the ford lingo tim gardner
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re the kuebelwagen in article c k co f mentor cc purdue edu thwang mentor cc purdue edu tommy hwang writes sorry for the mis spelling but i forgot how to spell it after my series of exams and no on hand reference here is it still possible to get those cute wwii vw jeep wanna be s a replica would be great i think tkh the vw thing kubelwagen lookalike is still manufactured in mexico and possibly south america good luck importing one they probably don t meet us safety and pollution requirements there are mechanics and junkyards which specialize in vw they might be helpful for finding a thing unless the wwii re enacters have grabbed them all the wwii kubelwagen was the german equivalent of the jeep but was not wheel drive one is on display at the patton museum at fort knox kentucky also the rare schwimwagen sp amphibious version in full scale dioramas highly recommended frank reid ucs indiana edu
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re auto air conditioning without freon in article apr research nj nec com behanna syl nj nec com chris behanna writes several chemists already have come up with several substitutes for r you don t hear about them because the mobile air conditioning society macs that is the people who stand to rake in that to per retrofit per automobile have mounted an organized campaign to squash those r substitutes out of existence if not ban them altogether on very shaky technical grounds at best on outright lies at worst now i m not saying you re wrong because i know that the r substitutes exist but this sounds a lot like the mpg carbs that the oil companies keep us all from getting mark
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are there any honda groups are there any honda groups out there especially ones that deal with preludes tom spencer
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