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re tie breaker isles and devils in lrw f rpi edu wangr vccsouth its rpi edu rex wang writes are people here stupid or what it is a tie breaker of cause they have to have the same record how can people be sooooo stuppid to put win as first in the list for tie breaker if it is a tie breaker how can there be different record man i thought people in this net are good with hockey i might not be great in math but tell me how can two teams ahve the same points with different record man retard can t believe people actually put win as first in a tie breaker why not i believe both the devils and islanders got points say for example another team had this record they had which is the same as their points total the islanders and devils records are both it is simple arithmetics and involve no calculus john a computer science graduate who pretends to be a mathematican
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re bruins vs canadiens in article apr rose com jack petrilli rose com jack petrilli writes on april richard amc com richard wernick wrote or boston you know sinden s going to find some way of screwing up even this good boston team he ll fire suter or trade away a vital star admittedly his last few trades have been good ones but how long before his luck runs out and he starts making esposito for ratelle type trades again how was this trade bad i seem to recall ratelle and middleton making a pretty good centre right wing combination and the bruins also got brad park in the deal and they also lost vadnais and somebody else after the trade the bruins were in two finals and one semi final all of which of course they lost to montreal which should please you to no end i doubt however keeping esposito would have made a difference in those series as he did not for the rangers in or any of his years in boston for that matter riston riston o o
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re nhl team in milwaukee well put jason i am not from wisconsin but i have close relatives who live in port washington about minutes north of milwaukee i visit the city regularly and i have been in the bradley four times to see the admirals play and the ncaa hockey championships it is a beautiful building the pettits and the city like to promote it as the best facility for hockey in north america as to what will happen with the admirals if milwaukee does acquire a franchise word is the team will move to green bay and play in the brown county arena once again the admirals are an independent franchise and the people of milwaukee have been supporting them well the games i have been to have seen crowds anywhere from to which are numbers some nhl teams i e the islanders hartford new jersey would be envious of having on some nights plus the fact that the city is able to support a minor league franchise without the glamour of having an nhl club affiliated to it is testimony to the amount of hockey interest exists in the city sincerely martin hill rt box b sault ste marie mi home of lssu go lakers p s anybody know what the attendance figures are for the ihl and how milwaukee stacks up against other ihl cities such as atlanta phoenix san diego cleveland and cincinnati if so please reply
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re div and conf names maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca roger maynard writes in bu edu jason gibson writes i can live with the other changes that have been made e g the playoff format change but the change to the division and conference names really annoys me batman was on tsn last night saying that changing the names would make the game easier for the occasional fan to follow he should have said what he meant that changing the names will make the game easier for americans in non hockey cities to follow i don t know of too many of my friends who had a hard time following which teams were in each division even a minimal amount of exposure to the game allows a person to quickly pick up on this there is nothing wrong with making the game easier for americans to follow the more fans the merrier and even if you dislike the occasional fan there is always the chance that these fans will become fanatics i am glad that the names are being changed for another reason the names patrick smythe norris adams and campbell are all the names of so called builders of the game this is the same type of thinking that put stein in the hall of fame this is absolute nonsense the real builders of the game are richard morenz howe conacher orr etc if you are going to name the divisions after people at least name the divisions after people who deserve it i think that you are incorrect roger patrick smythe and adams all played or coached in the league before becoming front office types hence they did help build the league although they were not great players themselves i agree that a name is a name is a name and if some people have trouble with names that are not easily processed by the fans then changing them to names that are more easily processed seems like a reasonable idea if we can get people in the arena door by being uncomplicated then let s do so once we have them they will realize what a great game hockey is and we can then teach them something abotu the history of the game the history of the names can be put rather succinctly all of the aforemen tioned used the game of hockey to make money can you imagine a pocklington division a ballard division or how about a green division no i would not want to see a ballard division but to say that these owners are assholes hence all nhl management people are assholes would be fallacious conn smythe for example was a classy individual from what i have heard also isn t the point of professional hockey to make money for all those involved which would include the players what i think you might be saying is that the players have not made as much money as should have been their due and it is the players that are what make the game great not the people who put them on the ice so naming division after management people rather than players is adding insult in the form of lesser recognition to injury less money than was deserved evan pritchard number or depending on the hockey pool epritcha psych uiuc edu
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re aargh great hockey coverage devils robbie po rap psuvm psu edu writes gld cunixb cc columbia edu gary l dare says locked away waiting for the tape delay to start i think this guy is going to be just a little bit disappointed why i m calling this penguins in only that with the way things stand the only radio game at that hour is from the devils on wabc am it d be nice to have a sony watchman but no need to be paranoid robbie don t judge me by my geographic coordinates jets over nordiques in the final gld je me souviens gary l dare gld columbia edu go winnipeg jets go gld cunixc bitnet selanne domi stanley
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re div and conf names in c pdgi ljl news cso uiuc edu epritcha s psych uiuc edu evan pritchard writes i think that you are incorrect roger patrick smythe and adams all played or coached in the league before becoming front office types hence they did help build the league although they were not great players themselves punch imlach s contributions as a coach and gm were far greater than those of the above combined should we name a division or trophy after him smythe and norris and the bunch were honoured purely because they were powerful owners as owners they certainly did help to build the league but whether they developed the game is another question altogether are we going to honour those who contributed to the league s evolution or are we going to honour those who contributed to the glory of the sport itself i agree that a name is a name is a name and if some people have trouble with names that are not easily processed by the fans then changing them to names that are more easily processed seems like a reasonable idea if we can get people in the arena door by being uncomplicated then let s do so once we have them they will realize what a great game hockey is and we can then teach them something abotu the history of the game i can t disagree with you here the history of the names can be put rather succinctly all of the aforemen tioned used the game of hockey to make money can you imagine a pocklington division a ballard division or how about a green division no i would not want to see a ballard division but to say that these owners are assholes hence all nhl management people are assholes would be fallacious conn smythe for example was a classy individual from what i have heard what have you heard the major was the definitive little asshole he originated the phrase if you can t beat em in the alley you can t beat em on the ice that was his idea of hockey do you think by chance that don cherry is a classy individual also isn t the point of professional hockey to make money for all those involved which would include the players what i think you might be saying is that the players have not made as much money as should have been their due and it is the players that are what make the game great not the people who put them on the ice so naming division after management people rather than players is adding insult in the form of lesser recognition to injury less money than was deserved the money issue is irrelevant to the point that we would agree on and that is it is the players that are what make the game great and not the people who put them on the ice exactly true naming divisions and trophies after smythe and the bunch is the same kind of nepotism that put stein in the hall of fame i have always thought that this was nonsense cordially as always maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca so many morons rm and so little time
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re div and conf names epritcha s psych uiuc edu evan pritchard writes no i would not want to see a ballard division but to say that these owners are assholes hence all nhl management people are assholes would be fallacious conn smythe for example was a classy individual from what i have heard depends on what you mean by classy from what i ve heard about him he was about as classy as harold ballard only difference was that back then almost all the owners were like that so he seemed okay by comparison read the book net worth for one view of what smythe and norris and adams and campbell were like also isn t the point of professional hockey to make money for all those involved which would include the players what i think you might be saying is that the players have not made as much money as should have been their due and it is the players that are what make the game great not the people who put them on the ice so naming division after management people rather than players is adding insult in the form of lesser recognition to injury less money than was deserved even more specifically i think what roger was saying and i said it previously too is that these are not the people who made the league great so why should divisions conferences etc be named after them instead of morenz vezina howe orr etc the people who did make it great instead the nhl has chosen to immortalize the men who got rich off of the men who made the game great chris roney e mail chris roney sfu ca
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re numerical nothingness in article apr freenet carleton ca ad freenet carleton ca bob wilson writes mario averaged points per game the antigretz gretzky averaged pts game mario projected over games points beats wayne s record by check your information before posting gretzky s record is pts in games over games g a points over games gretzky s total projected points pitt s winning percentage with mario over games points would this have been a record i know mtl had one year the canadiens had percentage pts in games the bruins had a winning percentage also the canadiens had a percentage with a record bob wilson ad freenet carleton ca a l l e z l e s b l u e s joe ashkar contact for the blues saint louis jca cec wustl edu blues
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nhl playoff stats scores for updated playoff updates scores stats summaries e mail me mmilitzo skidmore edu with the subject stats
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re rangers name keenan coach clarinews clarinet com upi writes in clari sports hockey new york upi mike keenan whose nhl coaching history has been to wear out his welcome despite an impressive penchant for winning has come to the city that embraces victors above all else well i could become a fan seriously this news coming since thursday has effectively robbed the islanders and the devils of any airtime on sports talk shows almost everywhere that i ve sampled in fact the playoffs almost don t exist now ranger fans calling in to wfan or to new york one s midnight sports talk were in a mix of fury over this season and near orgasm over keenan s hiring summarizing keenan is a winner and will give the broadway bums da business in pursuing the next cup chase the chicago blackhawks cut their last tie with keenan when he was forced out as general manager in november he had given up chicago s coaching duties a year ago and his thirst for the power of a gm now increases the pressure on beleaguered rangers gm neil smith this will be an interesting combination to watch keenan has been paid enough money to put up and shut up and just be a coach but his advice on any player moves will be listened to closely a lot of big player moves will happen remember that keenan got rid of denis savard the country club days are over when keenan left chicago i couldn t help but think about him as our coach smith said there was an indication he would be taken off the market i feared that and couldn t let that happen if paramount had given smith an earlier sign of support and offered keenan the big money to put up and shut up back in january the rangers might not be heading for golf now keenan takes on a demoralized team that offers him a chance to fashion yet another of his reclamation projects at the highest salary ever commanded by an nhl coach the rangers owned by gulf western have bestowed upon keenan an unprecedented million four year deal i ve known mike a long time messier said we ve won two canada cups together he s been to the finals three times maybe we miss just one more element to win the stanley cup i don t think he s the same person he was years ago or even five years ago i think he has changed and bettered himself with experience one of keenan s first statements was a reaffirmation that mark messier will be the team s captain the timing of the move gives the rangers new coach months to prepare for the nhl draft june and neil smith may not back off the their trade happy pattern by then smith might have some bargains on keenan s advice like maybe unloading phil bourque for tie domi gld je me souviens gary l dare gld columbia edu go winnipeg jets go gld cunixc bitnet selanne domi stanley
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la on abc in canada was the abc coverage of the kings flames game supposed to be the way it was shown in bc with cbc overriding the abc coverage when i flipped to abc it was the same commentators same commercials even my question is was this the real abc coverage or did cbc just black out the abc coverage for its own comment cbc had a great chance for some double headers toronto detroit and vancouver winnipeg but today they said that the east gets the leafs and the west get the vancouver game i thought that they would show them both the godfather
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college hockey all star game does anybody know the details of the shriners all star game that featured the best seniors in college hockey in a game in orono maine if you do please reply
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corrections re playoff predictions everyone read this if you have already sent your predictions please correct the patrick division if you would like you have until midnight on monday my time you may need to correct these games pittsburgh vs new jersey new york islanders vs washington patrick division winner wales conference winner stanley cup winner please forward all corrections to richard madison rrmadiso napier uwaterloo ca st rd pens over isles in devils over caps in nd pens over devils in
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what are you smoking wasre my predictions of a classic playoff year norris division tor vs det tor in this like mon vs que will be another intense series to watch chi vs tor tor in potvin will be settling in nicely by this point vancouver vs toronto toronto in potvin will be series mvp this is what kills me stanley cup finals toronto maple leafs vs montreal canadiens the classic stanley cup final matchup also a dream come true montreal wins the stanley cup in the th game in double overtime roy and potvin are spectacular throughout the series and share series mvp if that is possible vincent damphouse nets game winner from a brilliant pass by brian bellows canadiens star denis savard watched his buddies play from the owners box nursing that splinter on his thumb which has left him on the disabled list since the first game of the playoffs awww shucks paul die hard habs fan living with die hard leafs fans speaking of die hard that s what i did when i read this died hard laughing toronto to the cup finals first of all has anyone on the planet heard of the team from detroit al morgani or however you spell the idiot s name must be from chicago because on espn he said it s not even close chicago will definatly win the norris division in the playoffs no other team is close everyone is picking chicago i don t get it he says it s an easy choice god chicago was against the wings and they won the division by a point or two followed closely by toronto who is also a good team as for the leafs beating detroit doubt it but even if they do they aren t going to get by chicago if even more amazingly they get past the hawks they would probably face vancouver and lose as for the habs reaching the finals forget it even i as a devoted wings fan will watch the penguins easily three peat as cup winners lemieux jagr tocchet stevens and barrasso its a done deal sorry detroit wait til next year but hey these were paul s picks and everyone has a right to their own opinnions but the leafs to the finals yeah if they make it there i ll walk to toronto to get some tickets and that s a mile walk ryan detroit red wings the forgotten team go wings let s hope the penguins go out early
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nhl team captains in the mist of the rangers soap box i e captain nemesis ier ex coach roger nebula bad blood bath and with high hopes turned to new coach mr klean commissar keenan i would like to know what procedures hockey teams use to select their captains including a s are they selected by the coaching staff do the players vote for a captain or are they appointed by management and while we are on the subject has a captain ever been traded resigned or been striped of his title during the season any other team captain trivia would be appreciated mike
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re nhl team captains in apr ann arbor applicon slb com colling ann arbor applicon slb com michael collingridge writes and while we are on the subject has a captain ever been traded resigned or been striped of his title during the season any other the leafs have always been kind of comical during the second imlach era when darryl sittler was called a cancer on the team he tore the c off his sweater and for a while the leafs didn t have a captain sittler eventually ended up in philly and he was promised the philly captaincy by new gm and sittler s friend bobby clarke instead sittler got traded to detroit rick vaive was the leaf captain for awhile but he slept in one day and they took the captaincy away from him then he was traded to chicago during doug carpenter s tenure as leaf coach in an attempt to kiss the ass of a sulking gary leeman the leafs took the a away from brad marsh to give to leeman leeman wouldn t take it and when they tried to give it back to marsh he wouldn t take it neither the best story i remember about a captain concerned mel bridgman late of the senators while he was in philadelphia bobby clarke arguably one of the great captains of all time was bumped up to the status of playing coach and so he had to relinquish the captaincy bridgman be came the new captain a reporter asked a flyer what bridgman did as a captain since clarke was still the undisputed leader amongst the players the reporter was told that bridgman was in charge of making sure that the soap dispensers in the showers were always full cordially as always maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca so many morons rm and so little time
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re tie breaker isles and devils in article lrw f rpi edu wangr rpi edu writes are people here stupid or what it is a tie breaker of cause they have to have the same record how can people be sooooo stuppid to put win as first in the list for tie breaker if it is a tie breaker how can there be different record man i thought people in this net are good with hockey i might not be great in math but tell me how can two teams ahve the same points with different record man retard can t believe people actually put win as first in a tie breaker golly i love stupid people listen rex this is hockey the nhl to be precise and in the nhl there exist these things called ties a tie occurs when a game ends with the score for each team equal each team gets one point for a tie there also exits these things called wins a win is when one team has a higher score than the opponent oh yeah only two teams play each other at a time so i can say the opponent a team gets two points for a win so let s say that a team has a record of wins losses and ties another team has a record of wins losses and ties the first team has points the second team has points wow they both have the same number of points but the number of wins is different how did they do that that s amazing so rex when people talk about wins being the first tiebreaker well then that s what it means in our example the second team would win the tiebreaker and therefore have the better record even though both teams had the same number of points if you didn t understand this post rex maybe you should go back and read it again very slowly keith keller let s go rangers let s go quakers kkeller mail sas upenn edu ivy league champs when i want your opinion i ll give it to you
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atlanta hockey hell well it s not that bad but i am still pretty pissed of at the local abc coverage they cut off the first half hour of coverage by playing david brinkley at instead of an earlier time slot i don t even understand their problem if they didnt think enough people would not watch the game why would they decide to show most of the game and if they showed the remaining hours of the game would it hurt to play david brinkley at its regular time they dont have any decent programming before noon anyway i called the sports dept and blasted them on their machine i called gain and someone picked it up when i asked him why they premepted the first half hour of the stanley cup playoffs he seemed a bit confused when i explained a bit more in detail he then said that s upto to our programming dept call back on monday weel i understand that the sports dept is not responsible for this preemption but i can t understand how someone in the sports dept can t even recognise the name of playoffs shown on the very same station he works for anyway i am going to call them tomorrow and blast them on the phone again i urge all atlanta hockey fans to call wsb and ask them not to do the same thing for the next weeks pravin ratnam oh by the way pens rule
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ooops picture if you will the habs going into the last couple minutes of the game leading the nords get a power play pull hextall and get a goal bout a minute later they get another one then they win in overtime a bad dream how s that red hot chili peppers song go give it away give it away give it away now oh well suppose i can always watch the leafs win tomorrow night smilies am i the only female hockey fan in the world susan carroll clark sclark epas utoronto ca
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nords habs in o t we was robbed aargh paul stewart is the worst and most biased ref presently in the nhl he called a total of penalties on the habs and one on the nordiques the nords penalty came in o t stewart being an ex nordique himself was looking to call penalties on the habs while letting the nords get away with murder we was robbed it was an excellent game with plenty of end to end rushes and tremendous goalkeeping the nords tied it with over minute to go while lebeau was serving a penalty i don t mind stewart calling a penalty in the last min of the game but at least be fair about it the nords were caught with their hand in the cookie jar more than once stewart turned the other cheek bastard patrick roy collapsed after letting in the tieing goal he was shaky and on his knees for the rest of the night the winning goal shouldn t have gone in don t get me wrong i m not blaming the loss on stewart the habs had plenty of chances to capitalize muller leclair haller etc but failed to put the puck in the net that s what did them in but mr stewart didn t help matters at all oh well at least the bruins lost in o t also ha ha ooo ooo the czar of mainframe computing jbe musicb mcgill ca mcgill university i m too sexy for cobol habs will beat the nords in let s go expos hickory dickory doc she took a good look at your cock it s really scary all rinkled and hairy it smells like a year old sock andrew dice clay disclaimer needless to say that the opinions expressed by the czar represent those of the faculty staff and students of mcgill university
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re truly a sad day for hockey in article alvstad mari acc admin stolaf edu mad dog reports a fine year history came to a close tonight as the minnesota north stars or norm s stars whichever you prefer lost to the red wings by a score of the stars goals were scored by mike mcphee and ulf dahlen who netted two including the final one in franchise history with less than a minute to play are there any further stories to report on the eve of norm s farewell from the twin cities in an earlier post it was announced that norm green was given until midnight of the last home game of the north stars to cleanup his belongings and turn in the keys to the arena did this happen was norm run out of town rumor has it that while he was attempting to remove the score board the score board fell to the ice and flattened mr greedy to a large piece of green paper arena management had to use the zamboni which they confiscated from norm s truck to clean up the useless remains mike
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re atlanta hockey hell mamatha devineni ratnam mr andrew cmu edu writes i can t understand how someone in the sports dept can t even recognise the name of playoffs shown on the very same station he works for you think that s bad one year we had all three new york teams in the playoffs and the cableco operator scny once shared a channel with bet but someone forgot to throw the switch at pm didn t know what i was talking about while it s nice that the nhl is back on american network tv it faces the same problems as it did with the all star game local preemptions and zero promotion okay i don t watch that much tv so i m just foaming all right the league should have made sure that it was solid on cable before going to the networks in year one of the new espn contract the saturation coverage of sca all other games shown to completion like the quebec montreal and sabres bruins overtimes is missed around here gld je me souviens gary l dare gld columbia edu go winnipeg jets go gld cunixc bitnet selanne domi stanley
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flames truly brutal in loss as the subject suggests the flames were not impressive this afternoon dropping a decision to the la kings most of the flames neglected to show up especially in their own zone as the kings hit at least five posts the flames best line was probably skrudland paslawski berube which tells how bad the flames were gary suter scored a great goal in fact all three flame goals were scored by d men yawney and dahlquist getting the others but also made some bonehead plays for the kings pat conacher was especially impressive the games was very chippy as dan mirouelli lost control early and never recovered it there were high sticks cross checks punches hits from behind fleury got a game misconduct for rubbing out warren rychel from behind flames dominated the game physically but failed to take advantage due to horrendous defensive lapses i don t think vernon can be blamed for any of the goals calgary went with d men as roger johansson played lw he looked lost imho i hope king inserts chris lindbergh paul kruse or sergei makarov for wednesday s game gretzky left the game in the nd period with a charley horse no idea how serious he didn t return i still think the flames should win this series but they better buckle down vlad the impaler
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playoff pool update well i have compiled some statistics on the entries of my pool there are unofficially entrants here are the stats on what teams were picked to win it all pittsburgh sweep in in in boston in in detroit in in montreal in in toronto in in no this wasn t roger calgary in quebec in vancouver in washington in why the hell hasn t anybody picked chicago nobody quebec got a pick detroit got but absolutely no chicago how odd here are the losers detroit chicago so there they are pittsburgh vancouver boston calgary los angeles what toronto los angeles are you out of your mind good luck to you you ll need it so pittsburgh is the consensus winner of the stanley cup they ll statistically beat detroit in games haha that s happening not as i said every one of my picks will come true and i picked chicago to lose to pittsburgh in the finals so tough luck to all you who picket detroit well tough luck to all of ya i am a genius keith keller let s go rangers let s go quakers kkeller mail sas upenn edu ivy league champs a cow is not a vegetarian dish keith keller
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re flames truly brutal in loss this game would have been great as part of a double header on abc or espn the league would have been able to push back to back wins by le magnifique and the great one unfortunately the only network that would have done that was sca seen in few areas and hard to justify as a pay channel gld je me souviens gary l dare gld columbia edu go winnipeg jets go gld cunixc bitnet selanne domi stanley
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re possible canadian wc team in article apr news columbia edu gld cunixb cc columbia edu gary l dare writes nlu xenon stanford edu nelson lu writes centers mark messier n y rangers messier was not invited due to his nagging injuries while the press made an issue of it and attempted to link it to the rangers internal political woes mike keenan repeated that to messier personally during the msg press conference it makes sense messier would probably have not declined the invitation if it were made for publicity actually messier was invited but declined due to nagging injuries keenan and messier have always gotten along keenan dumped steve yzerman from the last canada cup team even though yzerman had endured the training camp when messier who had missed essentially the entire camp recovering from injuries became available at the last moment gerald
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re daigle kariya in article qsmhtinnt l senator bedfellow mit edu ddlin athena mit edu david d lin writes i hear daigle will eb the first pick next year what is the word on kariya anybody ever seen him play on tv is he also entering the draft people are seeming to be less concerned about kariya s size as he leads teams to championships world junior and us college and collects awards everyone is watching with interest as to how he will perform on left wing with eric lindros and mark recchi at the world championships months of go chances were not very good that he would go in the top five now it has become probable a great world championship could put him in the top with daigle and pronger gerald
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re octopus in detroit in detroit the octopus is a symbol from the old days of the league in the era of the original four teams made the playoffs to win the cup a team had to win two seven game series in other words it took playoff wins to win the cup the octopus legs has become a common detroit symbol every year around playoff time people start sneaking octopus octopi into the joe louis arena and throwing them onto the ice j old e mail jold vma cc nd edu
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don cherry coach s corner summary april here is a summary of don cherry s coach s corner from april it took place in the first intermission of game of the montreal quebec series pre game comments don s pregame comments were mostly aimed at the goalies the goalie who gets back his all star form roy or hextall can win the series for his team eposode summary this episode took place rinkside don was holding a hot dog that he bought from the concession stand ron maclean started out by showing a cartoon which appeared in the toronto sun it featured a picture of don who just saw his shadow and proclaimed will you look at dat eh means another weeks of me beauty next don talked about the hot dog he was holding according to him the hot dogs at the quebec stadium are the best food in all the arenas in the nhl from there don commented on the quebec montreal game the game had great flow because referee paul stewart calls the best game in the nhl in contrast the calgary la game was terrible all stop and go over minutes of penalties called against calgary by dan marouelli its getting so that the ref who calls the most penalties gets to ref in the finals next ron showed an old picture of don when he was playing for the rochester americans of the ahl don recalled some of the wins that he had in the quebec arena during the memorial cup and the ahl championships finally don and ron discussed keenan becoming coach of the rangers the rangers were a talented team who underachieved don feels sorry for temporary coach ron smith who had several key injuries to leetch and patrick and goalies who went cold don had some criticism for the rangers team the party s over adolf keenan is there the rangers organization will no longer be a country club ny should be achamed of themselves if they go in the tank with adolf there they ll be hanging from the yardarm by their thumbs rating nothing too special in this episode i ll give it a out of allan sullivan allan cs ualberta ca department of computing science university of alberta edmonton alberta canada my opinions are mine and mine alone it is amazing how much can be accomplished if no one cares who gets the credit u of a golden bears hockey motto c drake
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re flames truly brutal in loss in article vzhivov cunews vzhivov superior carleton ca vladimir zhivov writes as the subject suggests the flames were not impressive this afternoon dropping a decision to the la kings most of the flames neglected to show up especially in their own zone as the kings hit at least five posts the flames best line was probably mike vernon is now wins losses plus that all star game debacle in afternoon games during his career with another afternoon game with los angeles next sunday has the abc deal doomed the flames gerald
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re goodbye good riddance get lost stars goodbye minnesota you never earned the right to have an nhl franchise in the first place hope you enjoy your twin city wide mania for high school hockey hey by the way my old pee wee team is having a reunion in regina care to come up and film the event yee haa golden gophers whatta weird town what s with you stupid dorks from the western business school first there was that cary asshole and now you don t you have anything better to do instead of being obnoxious antagonistic little shits over the network why don t you just take a hike and stop embarrasing yourself your school and canada kea
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re how to beat pittsburgh how do you beat the penguins crash the team plane ryan
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re la on abc in canada in article boora sfu ca boora kits sfu ca the godfather writes was the abc coverage of the kings flames game supposed to be the way it was shown in bc with cbc overriding the abc coverage when i flipped to abc it was the same commentators same commercials even my question is was this the real abc coverage or did cbc just black out the abc coverage for its own here in nanaimo on vancouver island for you furriners out there we got the abc coverage on komo it probably depends on your cable company i started off switching between the cbc and abc broadcasts but finally settled on abc i can t stand don whitman and al michaels was doing a decent job he followed the play pretty well knew all the players names and only made a couple of rookie mistakes that i noticed one thing that surprised me is that they never once attempted to explain the offside rule am i paranoid or is this really happening department there were no fights in the game but there were a couple of occasions where it looked like a fight was about to start both times abc cut away to show a closeup of a coach or mcnall or something has abc decided to adopt the spicer policy lorne epp epp mala bc ca
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re blackhawks win in article apr vax cns muskingum edu jbrown vax cns muskingum edu writes the hawks win jermey roenick scored his th goal and the hawks put the leafs in their place the losers column if the leafs can not even beat the hawks in a match that had little or no meaning i will hate to see them against the wings oh btw i laugh at rm that jerky go hawks jb but i gotta tell ya if the hawks can t beat the blues in a game that is significant i can t wait to see how the blues might do against toronto btw if you think that the hawks deserved to win that game i think you were not watching the same one everyone else was roar in leaf fan alfred yong jeh yim b mathematics actuarial science university of waterloo canada e mail ayim descartes waterloo edu
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re wings will win in article vela acs oakland edu ragraca vela acs oakland edu randy a graca writes i also think that they will have a hard time with pittsburgh if they face them in the finals which is what all the detroit sportswriters are predicting although i think bryan murray is probably the best gm i have ever seen in hockey how do you figure that when bryan murray took over the wings they were a pretty good team that was contending for the stanley cup but looked unlikely to win it now they are a pretty good team that is contending for the stanley cup but looks unlikely to win it a truly great gm would have been able to make the moves to push the team to the upper echelon of the nhl and maybe win the stanley cup a good gm like murray can maintain the team s success but can t push them to the next level in the history of hockey there have been several better gm s than murray way too many to name murray isn t even the best gm in the league today he fails in comparison to sinden sather savard caron fletcher and quinn in my estimation i can t imagine how bryan murray can be the best gm anyone has ever seen in hockey unless they have seen very few gm s gregmeister
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re thumbs up to espn jca cec wustl edu joseph charles achkar writes it was nice to see espn show game between the wings and leafs since the cubs and astros got rained out instead of showing another baseball game they decided on the stanley cup playoffs a classy move by espn not in indiana they showed a tape delay of chicago v boston because wgn had the rainout of the cubs so wgn showed reruns of hitchcock no hockey at least in this part of the state go aeros ian neath there are four kinds of people in this world neath psych purdue edu cretins fools morons and lunatics u eco
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re expanding to europe dusseldorf in pkortela apr lk hp hut fi pkortela snakemail hut fi writes deg has many german born forwards in the team in fact the majority of players are german born deg had average in spectator arena interesting one of our german friends here robert told me their forwards were all canadian germans perhaps somebody can sort this out for us my possible nhl european league site list switzerland berne zurich lugano and others ok this ain t north america and so on but i still doubt that any city having a pop of and below could support an nhl team of course switzerland probably should be judged as one large city because of small distances between cities but still germany dusseldorf cologne berlin munich mannheim rosenheim dusseldorf yes although the arena is an anachronism an open wall behind one of the goals essentially an outdoor arena cologne s arena only seats about berlin is about and no new facility will be built unless their olympic bid is successful munich does have an arena sweden stockholm gothenburg malmo gavle malmo is big enough but they also need a new arena the current one has seats i think finland helsinki turku tampere if we re talking about the nhl even helsinki would struggle to make it work turku despite an excellent arena and tampere are nowhere near big enough for major league hockey italy milan rome and the south are out of the question this could as well be africa to hockey fans romans were given the chance to host some wc games but showed no interest whatsoever all teams in the italian league come from milan and the smaller cities in the north france paris chamonix ruoen paris had their own volans francais sp pro team a couple of years ago i believe they even made it to the european club championship finals tournament one year but eventually folded due to lower than hoped for attendances the remaining cities seem to be too small to support a minor sport like hockey norway oslo austria vienna villach chech prag slovakia bratislava russia moscow st petersburg the easter cities lack the money and infrastructure to support pro hockey great britain perhaps most european teams will have to be like the tampa bay lightning anyway playing in a small seat arena backed by japanese money run by enthusiasts phil esposito heavy marketing fans that have difficulty telling what icing means london has been mentioned sheffield and birmingham also have large arenas and a new mega facility seats might be built in bristol in a couple of years netherlands no facilities to speak of their biggest arena in eindhoven seats fans for hockey petteri kortelainen marcu
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plus minus stat roger maynard shares his views with the masses on bob gainey and life in general in apr sol uvic ca gballent hudson uvic ca greg ballentine writes the selke candidate forwards main purpose on a shift is to prevent goals from being scored not to score them when lemieux or gilmour play their number one purpose is to score defence is secondary especially considering the line that plays against them is probably a defensive one that is why they are not selke candidates gainey is the best defensive forward ever i stand by that assessment he was a very good player who belongs in the hall of fame did you ever watch him play he never made a technical error i watched him over his entire career i have never seen a player and that includes russell courtnall and davie keon screw up as many breakaways as bob gainey and i will never forget the time denis potvin caught gainey with his head down you have been sold a bill of goods on bob gainey it was bryan trottier not denis potvin it was a vicious boarding from behind trottier was given a major but roger what the hell does this have to do with gainey s skill as a hockey player if probert smashes gilmour s head into the boards next week will that diminish your assessment of gilmour s skills gainey was a plugger and when the press runs out of things to say about the stars on dynasties they start to hype the pluggers grant fuhr essa tikkannen butch goring bob nystrom bob gainey doug jarvis derek sanderson wayne cashman bob baun bob pulford ralph backstrom henri richard dick duff and so on i would take fuhr and sanderson off of the latter i think gainey would be honoured to know that you ve included him on this list i also think you have a relatively naive view about what wins a hockey game pluggers are an integral part of any team the selke is designed to acknowledge their contribution i think that most people understand that it s not the nobel prize so settle down cordially as always rm roger maynard maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca congenially as always jd james david david student business uwo ca j david sms business uwo ca james david western business school london ontario
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rangers give nhl another blackeye news reports in toronto say that the rangers are insisting that kovalev zubov and andersson play for binghampton in the calder cup playoffs rather than return to play for their home countries in the world championships shame on the rangers another black eye for the nhl in europe gerald
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re playoff predictions here are my predictions try not to laugh hysterically somebody save this so i can laugh when i win my own pool i don t have prizes but we all love bragging rights so winner takes them also if somebody has some sort of scoring system let me know i was thinking for st round victories for second for rd for th but we may get alot of ties any ideas buffalo montreal pittsburgh washington chicago toronto winnipeg los angeles montreal pittsburgh chicago winnipeg montreal chicago montreal richard madison rrmadiso napier uwaterloo ca
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re ahl calder cup playoff preview daryl turner umturne ccu umanitoba ca wrote in article apr news clarkson edu farenebt craft camp clarkson edu droopy writes atlantic division st john s maple leafs vs moncton hawks moncton hawks see cd islanders moncton is a very similar team to cdi low scoring defensive good goaltending john leblanc and stu barnes are the only noticable guns on the team but the defense is top notch and mike o neill is the most underrated goalie in the league bri as i have tried to tell you since february michael o neill might be the most underrated goalie in the ahl but he isn t in the ahl he s on the winnipeg jets injury list as he has been since his first nhl start against the ottawa senators he s out until next year after surgery to repair a shoulder separation stu barnes might be an ahl gun for the hawks but he s now the third line center with the jets and has been since mid january or so sorry my memory is gone i thought that o neill got sent back down in february but i must have been given incorrect info i guess this says it all about moncton because barnes is still one of their top or so scorers even though he s been out since january bri farenell farenebt craft camp clarkson edu ahl and ecac contact for rec sport hockey go usa hockey adirondack red wings calder cup champs clarkson hockey ecac tournament champs glens falls high hockey ny division ii state champs ahl fans join the ahl mailing list ahl news request andrew cmu edu congrats to the boston bruins adams division champions phoenix suns pacific division champions
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individual winners was re where are the doubters now hmm well since you mentioned it in article apr jarvis csri toronto edu migod turing toronto edu mike godfrey writes lemieux is clearly the mvp no question here chip in the masterson as well selanne wins the calder yep chelios the norris if you asked me days ago i d agree with you i now give the nod to raymond bourque his play took off the same time the b s did chelios gets a close second dunno who wins the vezina but i suspect not potvin barrasso finally gets his due in a close one over eddie the eagle coach of the year is tricky burns did the most with the least raw talent king did a good job but the flames clearly underachieved last year brian sutter has done exceptionally well in his first year with a new team ditto demers page has been blessed by the ripening and acquisition of young talent darryl sutter is having a good year for a rookie coach berry made the best of a bad situation terry crisp worked minor miracles and bowman was bowman i d pick burns but i m mildly biased in your case that bias is acceptable mine shows with the norris pick so we re even i m impressed with what all the coaches you mentioned did but my pick would be al arbour not too many folks thought the isles would be in the playoffs let alone contend for rd in their division granted that they did have a little help from their cousins on broadway and i like the islanders about as much as i like mowing my lawn mike godfrey david kehrer dwk sunsrvr cci com northern telecom nas rochester new york it s nothing for me to eat six or seven pieces of pizza then go out to dinner with my wife and not remember i had the pizza jacques demers
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help wc coverage in europe vielen dank desperate fan ps sweden vs finland finished in gothenburg th apr
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espn tonight has anyone heard what game espn is showing tonight they said they will show whatever game means the most playoff wise i would assume this would be the blues tampa game or the minnesota red wings game anyone heard for sure jeff swartz
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re patrick division correction in article rap psuvm psu edu robbie po rap psuvm psu edu writes well i was a little off in those predictions one i didn t count on the devils scoring goals tonight in a tie hence there goes the streak secondly i didn t count on the islanders getting just point out of against the whalers in two games so no more isles capitals new predicitons penguins vs islanders penguins in or capitals vs devils devils in why should we pay your predictions any heed considering you couldn t even predict the proper matchups maybe you should try forecasting the weather instead frank salvatore fmsalvat eos ncsu edu
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re plus minus stat in ld b w w sms business uwo ca j david sms business uwo ca james david writes it was bryan trottier not denis potvin it was a vicious boarding from behind trottier was given a major perhaps it was trottier it happened behind the habs goal if i recall gainey simply didn t have his head up as he was picking up the puck but roger what the hell does this have to do with gainey s skill as a hockey player if probert smashes gilmour s head into the boards next week will that diminish your assessment of gilmour s skills if gilmour was taken completely by surprise as gainey was then yeah i would have to say that doug wasn t playing technically smart hockey in any case to claim as greg did that gainey never made a technical mistake is absolutely ludicrous gainey was a plugger and when the press runs out of things to say about the stars on dynasties they start to hype the pluggers grant fuhr essa tikkannen butch goring bob nystrom bob gainey doug jarvis derek sanderson wayne cashman bob baun bob pulford ralph backstrom henri richard dick duff and so on i would take fuhr and sanderson off of the latter good for you you d only be displaying your ignorance of course but to each his own i think gainey would be honoured to know that you ve included him i think gainey should feel honoured to know that he is remembered at all on this list i also think you have a relatively naive view about what wins a hockey game pluggers are an integral part of certainly pluggers are an integral part of any team and that is simply because there are not enough solid two way players to go around who would you rather have as your checking centre doug gilmour or doug jarvis for that matter i would take either gretzky or mario as my checking centres do you think gretzky could cover bob gainey any team the selke is designed to acknowledge their contribution i think that most people understand that it s not the nobel prize so settle down you re wrong again the selke is awarded to the forward that does the best job defensively and this may or may not be the best plugger if gilmour does the best defensive job in the league i don t see why he should be out of the running simply because he also contributes offen sively settle down if you think that i have likened the selke to the nobel prize then i suggest that you had best settle down and if you are going to try to put words in my mouth let me suggest that you settle down before you bother following up on my postings congenially as always jd james david david student business uwo ca you might consider developing your own style after all imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and i am quite sure that flattery is not your intention cordially as always rm roger maynard maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca
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european expansion and our f cked system everyone keeps talking about european expansion by thinking wishful thoughts but being totally off the ball the league format we use here is incompatible with that in europe for those that don t know the best teams from lower divisions get promoted and the worst get demoted would european fans put up with our if you ve paid you can play attitude how long would they support teams that are run on ranger based corporate thinking i use the term lightly we don t need a good product because these duffuses in nyc would fill the arena for ottawa s record every year haha sorry had ta say it if hockey and other pro sports had a similar system to europe maybe teams like the rangers would be forced to compete or get demoted the fourth division we d have many more teams centres that aren t as big like halifax or adirondack ok so halifax isn t a good example would eventually get promoted and every team would be somewhat competetive within its own division unlike ottawa sj edmonton etc fans would eventually get rewarded for their loyalty or penalized for their neglect and the league would be more interesting and dynamic every year because of the influx of newly promoted teams and the halifax citadels win the stanley cup i can dream can t i look at british or any european soccer as an example they never have fan problems just someone who thinks our system really sucks barfly feel free to flame me my account ends today hahahaha
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re rangers top ten in netnews upenn edu kkeller mail sas upenn edu keith keller writes carol alt head coach in i wish she can be my head coach any time sorry ali back to real hockey hmmmmmm i think i ll let everyone make there own comment on this one the bad alexei kovalev what did the rangers think when they signed him did they think he was another domi just let him play and not on a th line better that he stays in the minors and gets ice time all the time whose bad it has been neilson and smith s decision to play him there if that s what you mean then that s bad but kovalev himself is a very good player you re right if he weren t stranded on the fourth line maybe he d produce sound familiar darren turcotte neilson and smith are bad kovalev is magical lets go pens the owl
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who will broadcast the wc which german satellite channels will show the world championship action from dusseldorf munich someone please tell me must be able to root for the red machine thank you russians for the world title nordiques for the cup
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re flyers re this year s biggest and worst opinion in article apr cbnewsm cb att com jmd cbnewsm cb att com joseph m dakes writes in article apr cbnewsh cb att com seth cbnewsh cb att com peter r clark jr writes so roussel was giving up almost another goal a game while facing a proportional number of shots for the number of minutes he played and while i have t actually checked i believe that he faced a lower quality of opponent make that less than half a goal a game the lower quality of opponet argument is immaterial as neither roussel nor soderstrom had any say in the matter that was dineen s decision so in other words if roussel shuts out the sharks and soderstrom shuts out the penguins that s immaterial because it was the coaches decision come on joe think about what you re saying who they played is very significant why they played them is what s irrelevent a low gaa against good teams is better than a low gaa against bad teams in the context of comparing two goaltenders a low gaa is better then a higher gaa a low gaa against good teams is much much better than a higher gaa against bad teams in the context of comparing two goaltenders the fact of the matter is that despite last nights shutout he doesn t have what it takes last night was due to an inept ranger team much more than roussel s skill a on and they don t get a shot away a on none and one guy just passes and stops the other guy shoots into roussel s pad c mon pete so the rangers were inept a shutout is a shutout during both of soderstrom s masterpieces against toronto mike emerich was quoted as saying he didn t think the leafs had much offensive firepower past their first line does that make soderstrom s shutouts less impressive because of toronto s lack of offense yes it does absolutely in the context of comparing two goaltenders of course at the end of the season points is points no matter how you get them and on the score sheets shutouts are shutouts but if you re a coach deciding between two goalies or a gm looking to make a trade you have got to look deeper than the stat sheets i didn t see the second toronto game but the first one was a defensive masterpiece there was nothing in that game to judge tommy soderstrom on because he wasn t tested the same for roussel in the ranger game two real scoring chances one he made a great play the other he was saved by a mistake from the other player if you were judging roussel on that game alone you have very little to go by but if you were to look at the tie against the habs you saw a goalie stand on his head to get that shutout that was a goalie in action roussel doesn t have a game like that in him well if you look back to november when roussel was the goalie soderstrom was being treated for his heart ailment the flyers finished november at and were overall and there s no way of knowing where the flyers would have finished if soderstom wasn t wearing the oragne n black i m glad we don t have to find out anytime soon either because he is one hell of a player i would take him over roussel right now but i still think dom has what it takes to be the guy he outperformed hextall enough during the season to make flyers management think that way too don t be so sure of that flyers management never says bad thing about roussel but they don t say too much on the good side either i ve seen at least two interviews where every time farwell was asked how happy he was to have two good goaltenders it was tommy this tommy that and oh yeah dom has played well too by the way what was the final card on monday night team picture by any chance flyers in the nhl hall of fame kinda dull really they handed out a team picture to everybody who walked in from pizza hut but it was the same picture they sold in the programs in mid season had names like benning kasper and how did the flyers choose the fans who received the shirts off our backs winning recchi s jersey after breaking the club s single season point record would have been nice but knowing your luck you would have won roussel s mostly random seat locations some were given out by having certain autographs on the team photos i don t like that method since i ve seen guards help out people get things like lindros pictures surely if they got their hands on an autographed picture they d hold em for their buddies pete clark
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re goalie masks in article hydra gatech edu gtd a prism gatech edu hrivnak writes i m starting an informal poll on goalie masks i d like to know who s mask you think looks the best i ve always like curtis joseph s of the blues the best anyway send your nominations to me or post your vote here on r s h my e mail adress is gtd a prism gatech edu thanks for your time i saw a mask once that had drawings of band aids presumably for every puck that goalie stopped with his face head i can t remember who it was or even if it was nhl i see quite a few ahl games here this is by far the funniest mask i ve seen and for me funny cool go skins now for the next question does emotional music have quite go braves an effect on you mike patton faith no more go hornets go capitals mike friedman hrivnak fan internet gtd a prism gatech edu barfly
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re plus minus stat in article ramsey cs laurentian ca maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca roger maynard writes certainly pluggers are an integral part of any team and that is simply because there are not enough solid two way players to go around who would you rather have as your checking centre doug gilmour or doug jarvis for that matter i would take either gretzky or mario as my checking centres do you think gretzky could cover bob gainey gretzky lemieux gilmour etc do not play the role of checking centreman they play an offensive role as opposed to a defensive one if they were used as defensive centres it would be a waste of their offensive abilities when you compare gretzky et al to jarvis gainey etc you are comparing apples and oranges it is like me telling you that felix potvin isn t very good because a team would be better if the had lemieux instead of him sure lemieux is a better player but he is a different type of player for a team to be successful they need to have all types of players this includes defensive forwards when compared with other defensive forwards bob gainey is the greatest defensive forward ever he is the player who s talents best suited being a defensive forward who completely dominated the game when he played maybe if a more talented player such as gretzky had decided to waste his offensive talents and play defensively he could have been a better defensive forward but he wasn t bob gainey is the best defensive forward that has ever played hockey gregmeister
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get real caps have no chance anyone who really believes that the caps can beat the pens are kidding themselves the pens may not loose one game in the playoffs geoff filinuk flyers fan
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re individual winners was re where are the doubters now hmm in apr cci cci com dwk cci cci com dave kehrer writes well since you mentioned it in article apr jarvis csri toronto edu migod turing toronto edu mike godfrey writes chelios the norris if you asked me days ago i d agree with you i now give the nod to raymond bourque his play took off the same time the b s did chelios gets a close second how about kevin hatcher scored roughly goals plays minutes a game dunno who wins the vezina but i suspect not potvin barrasso finally gets his due in a close one over eddie the eagle that s really sad when two second rate goalies barasso and belfour are the main contenders for the vezina call me crazy but how about tommy soderstrom five shutouts for a th place team that doesn t really play defense it s really unfortunate that the better goalies in the league mclean essensa vernon had unspectacular years btw if you are going to award the norris on the basis of the last days why not give the vezina to moog he has been the best goalie over the past month coach of the year is tricky burns did the most with the least raw talent king did a good job but the flames clearly underachieved last year brian sutter has done exceptionally well in his first year with a new team ditto demers page has been blessed by the ripening and acquisition of young talent darryl sutter is having a good year for a rookie coach berry made the best of a bad situation terry crisp worked minor miracles and bowman was bowman i d pick burns but i m mildly biased in your case that bias is acceptable mine shows with the norris pick so we re even i m impressed with what all the coaches you mentioned did but my pick would be al arbour not too many folks thought the isles would be in the playoffs let alone contend for rd in their division granted that they did have a little help from their cousins on broadway and i like the islanders about as much as i like mowing my lawn arbour or king burns will probably win since playoffs aren t taken into consideration he s ok in the regular season but i m not sure if he s beaten anyone other than hartford in the playoffs vlad the impaler
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re david polie s future in article apr ncsu edu fmsalvat eos ncsu edu frank michae salvatore writes bad news for the patrick division next year caps gm david polie is reportedly trying to get a front office job with the nhl i can t believe polie has not been fired despite years of mediocrity you know what frank it s not david poile s fault that the caps have mired in mediocrity for so long blame it on the owner abe polin this guy owns both the nba s bullets and the nhl s capitals how dumb and selfish could this guy be he s unwilling to spend the bucks in order to get a big star to landover no wonder both teams stink i ve heard that the capitals had a chance to get detroit s steve yzerman last summer but they pulled out at the last minute why because our good man abe is afraid to spend the cash nevertheless i m still faithful and hoping that one day this devilish dictator will be replaced frank salvatore fmsalvat eos ncsu edu tuan a van does it matter where you buy your underwear tom cruise rain man t a van a k a archmage q what s orange black and ugly george mason university and dwells in the basement electrical engineering a da philadelphia flyers tva gmuvax gmu edu tva mason gmu edu let s go cap i tals
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re winning streaks in article rap psuvm psu edu rap psuvm psu edu robbie po writes the penguins game unbeaten streak carries over to next season meaning if they start the season with another game unbeaten streak they will have eclipsed the flyers record right now the penguins are on an game winning streak as streaks carry over from one year to another hmmmm i m not sure this is true according to mike lang and good old stagie along with the rest of the tv crews in pittsburgh they winning streak could have stopped because it is a regular season mark i would think this would also hold with an unbeaten streak for regular season games however you are right that the playoff streak does carry over from last year and with more win i believe they tie an edmonton record but don t quote me on that one robbie po pgh penguins it won t be easy but it contact for the stanley cup will have greater rewards penn state lady lions champions mountains and valleys are rap psuvm psu edu straight wins better than nothing at all
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re plus minus stat in article apr sol uvic ca gballent hudson uvic ca greg ballentine writes in article tnclus tele nokia fi hahietanen tnclus tele nokia fi writes in article apr sol uvic ca gballent vancouver uvic ca greg ballentine writes is a good stat because it is the only stat that i am aware of that takes into account defensive play it isn t a measure of defensive play it takes into account offense and defence all aspects of play if we are interested of real all round players the power play stats should be considered too because the power play is also one aspect of play there is still something to be done with these player evaluation tools imo any good player should score on power plays because of the man advantage very good power play scorers tend to become overrated because their point totals are inflated by power play points tends to expose these overrated players such as brett hull john cullen and dave andreychuck given the opportunity to play power play consistently any player can inflate his totals gregmeister except for vancouver of course bure has a hard time scoring on that power play he s got shorthanded goals and pp goals i think
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playoff pool rules entry form well the tentative rules anyway and of course since the season is not entirely over tentative entry form but who cares the real hockey season is starting here s the deal you email preferably or post your predictions and the number of games you think each series will go each round will be weighted so that the stanley cup finals will be very important but the early rounds will still be important here is the scoring pick st round winner way off on games points pick st round winner within one game points pick st round winner pick of games points pick nd round winner way off on games points pick nd round winner within one game points pick nd round winner pick of games points pick conference champ way off on games points pick conference champ within one game points pick conference champ pick of games points pick stanley cup champ way off on games points pick stanley cup champ within one game points pick stanley cup champ pick of games points pick loser in series goes points pick loser in series decided in game ot points these last two are sympathy points probably won t happen anyway obviously picking the stanley cup champion is important i will do some tests to see if the format is fair but probably i will be too lazy to modify it so the scoring will probably be like this as for entry forms well this post is getting too long so see next post keith keller let s go rangers let s go quakers kkeller mail sas upenn edu ivy league champs when i want your opinion i ll give it to you
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entry form for playoff pool okay here s the entry sheet keep in mind that not all spots are decided so it may change series your pick games division semis ny islanders pittsburgh new jersey washington buffalo boston montreal quebec st louis chicago toronto detroit winnipeg vancouver los angeles calgary division finals patrick adams norris smythe conference finals wales campbell stanley cup winner see previous post for scoring good luck keith keller let s go rangers let s go quakers kkeller mail sas upenn edu ivy league champs when i want your opinion i ll give it to you
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bridgman is out the ottwawa senators fired mel bridgman at pm today randy sexton is gonna replace him stephane lacelle s w engineer insert sig here gandalf data ltd
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re playoff telecasts in atlanta in article c jabd acsu buffalo edu hammerl acsu buffalo edu valerie s hammerl writes i d personally prefer buffalo boston as a birthday gift from espn but i don t think the folks at espn will accomodate that for me espn has this inexplicable affinity for the patrick division it seems first happy birthday val second espn s affinity with patrick has probably more to do with the travel production costs for a once a week nhn national hockey night affair espn abc owner capital cities is a company known for being quite thrifty with minimal overhead costs it s quite possible that jim schoenfeld may be working for doughnuts gary thorne and bill clement are both nj based and the rest of espn crew resides in the suburban ct with a very close proximity to tri state area plus it makes sense in terms of solid hockey following in the northeast corridor pa ny nj dc maryland whereas in the adams you have only american based teams out of which buffalo and hartford are not in top us tv markets ppv mark
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ahl season in review off ice stuff here is a review of some of the off ice things that have affected the ahl this year st john s maple leafs problems the st john s maple leafs sophomore season has been plagued by problems on ice the leafs won the atlantic division title but off ice was less happy a strike by public workers has forced the leafs out of the newfoundland city for much of the last half of the seaosn since mid jan they have played home games in places like montreal cornwall and charlottetown their playoff home games will be played in the metro center in halifax ns one demostration got violent workers attacked a leafs bus and rocked it and broke windows in the st john s memorial stadium despite the problems toronto officials insist that the leafs will return to st john s once the strike ends senators sold the new haven senators have been sold by peter shipman to the ottawa senators nhl organization they are the only canadian nhl team with an american ahl affiliate and have made it clear they intend to move the team to somewhere in the canadian atlantic provinces this sale and move has yet to be approved by the ahl head office but is expected to pass easily at the general meeting in may the quote in the story from jack butterfield made it clear the league was more interested in the stability of the ahl franchise accompanied by nhl ownership rather than maintaining the year history of the ahl in new haven the senators are currently in serious negotiations with charlottetown new brunswick and are expected to move there dallas helps hawks stay in moncton after announcing that they would pull their affiliation out of moncton the winnipeg jets changed their mind the jets announced the move when they said that they would be slashing their minor league roster from something to around a dozen and they wanted to share with an existing ahl or ihl franchise enter the dallas lone stars dallas agreed to supply the remaining or players to the moncton franchise thus keeping the hawks in the new brunswick city the deal is for one year and will be extended to three years if the season ticket base increases to over the hawks only sold for this year saint john flames official the calgary flames have officially signed a deal with the city of saint john nb the saint john blue flames will play in the exhibition center the flames still have to apply for an expansion frnachise from the ahl but are expected to have no trouble caps follow jacks to maine despite rumors to the contrary the capitals will follow the baltimore skipjacks to maine the caps current farm team the baltimore skipjacks announced that they would move to maine and become the portland pirates there was much doubt as to if the caps would follow but they announced a limited deal with portland they would supply a dozen or so players including goalies they become the third team to announce a limited farm team along with moncton and the capital district islanders ahl game of the week in early january the ahl started a game of the week the game produced by i believe pyman productions was televised across the canadian maritimes and northeastern us the first few weeks saw two games of the week one in canada and another in the us but since then there has been only one sunday afternoon and night games were covered and shown on sportschannel ny and ne in the us and i believe atlantic sports network in canada but i m not sure about that i am not sure if playoff games will be covered utica gone syracuse added there were heavy rumors that the utica devils will not be around next season there were rumors that they might be headed to a midwestern city and that the city of syracuse is trying to lure them what the ahl might look like next year one option another option northern division southern division adirondack red wings adirondack springfield indians springfield providence bruins providence cd islanders cdi portland pirates hershey binghamton southern division rochester hershey bears hamilton binghamton rangers utica rochester americans hamilton canucks atlantic division utica devils portland st john s atlantic division saint john st john s maple leafs moncton moncton hawks halifax halifax citadels fredericton cape breton oilers cape breton fredericton canadiens charlottetown saint john blue flames charlottetown senators move is unofficial as yet bri farenell farenebt craft camp clarkson edu ahl and ecac contact for rec sport hockey go usa hockey adirondack red wings calder cup champs clarkson hockey ecac tournament champ glens falls high school division ii ny state champs join the ahl mailing list ahl news request andrew cmu edu congrats to clarkson golden knights hockey ecac champions
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ahl news dallas helps hawks stay in moncton after announcing that they would pull their affiliation out of moncton the winnipeg jets changed their mind the jets announced the move when they said that they would be slashing their minor league roster from something to around a dozen and they wanted to share with an existing ahl or ihl franchise enter the dallas lone stars dallas agreed to supply the remaining or players to the moncton franchise thus keeping the hawks in the new brunswick city the deal is for one year and will be extended to three years if the season ticket base increases to over the hawks only sold for this year saint john flames official the calgary flames have officially signed a deal with the city of saint john nb the saint john blue flames will play in the exhibition center the flames still have to apply for an expansion frnachise from the ahl but are expected to have no trouble caps follow jacks to maine despite rumors to the contrary the capitals will follow the baltimore skipjacks to maine the caps current farm team the baltimore skipjacks announced that they would move to maine and become the portland pirates there was much doubt as to if the caps would follow but they announced a limited deal with portland they would supply a dozen or so players including goalies they become the third team to announce a limited farm team along with moncton and the capital district islanders bri farenell farenebt craft camp clarkson edu ahl and ecac contact for rec sport hockey go usa hockey adirondack red wings calder cup champs clarkson hockey ecac tournament champs glens falls high hockey ny division ii state champs ahl fans join the ahl mailing list ahl news request andrew cmu edu congrats to the boston bruins adams division champions phoenix suns pacific division champions
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plus minus stat post of newsgroups rec sport hockey from maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca roger maynard subject re plus minus stat organization dept of computer science laurentian university sudbury on date thu apr gmt in ld b w w sms business uwo ca j david sms business uwo ca james david writes it was bryan trottier not denis potvin it was a vicious boarding from behind trottier was given a major perhaps it was trottier it happened behind the habs goal if i recall gainey simply didn t have his head up as he was picking up the puck but roger what the hell does this have to do with gainey s skill as a hockey player if probert smashes gilmour s head into the boards next week will that diminish your assessment of gilmour s skills if gilmour was taken completely by surprise as gainey was then yeah i would have to say that doug wasn t playing technically smart hockey in any case to claim as greg did that gainey never made a technical mistake is absolutely ludicrous later on in your posting you make reference to putting words into other people s mouths i would suggest that your last paragraph can only be interpreted in one way namely that i along with greg claim that gainey never made a technical mistake if you actually read what i ve written you will find that i make no such claim soooo if logic serves me well you re contradicting yourself gainey was a plugger and when the press runs out of things to say about the stars on dynasties they start to hype the pluggers grant fuhr essa tikkannen butch goring bob nystrom bob gainey doug jarvis derek sanderson wayne cashman bob baun bob pulford ralph backstrom henri richard dick duff and so on i would take fuhr and sanderson off of the latter good for you you d only be displaying your ignorance of course but to each his own roger i m not sure here but i think ignorance is really a function of a lack of knowledge and not formulating an opinion but hey if you need to take a cheap shot then by all means go ahead that s if it makes you feel better i think gainey would be honoured to know that you ve included him i think gainey should feel honoured to know that he is remembered at all my word such vehemence against poor ol bob gainey why does he bother you so much he was an effective player for his style of play on this list i also think you have a relatively naive view about what wins a hockey game pluggers are an integral part of certainly pluggers are an integral part of any team and that is simply because there are not enough solid two way players to go around who would you rather have as your checking centre doug gilmour or doug jarvis for that matter i would take either gretzky or mario as my checking centres do you think gretzky could cover bob gainey i m really sorry roger but you have lost me completely here why don t you ask me if i would rather have jesus christ himself in nets now if you were to compare say for example bob gainey with guy carbonneau you would have a balanced comparison any team the selke is designed to acknowledge their contribution i think that most people understand that it s not the nobel prize so settle down you re wrong again the selke is awarded to the forward that does the best job defensively and this may or may not be the best plugger if gilmour does the best defensive job in the league i don t see why he should be out of the running simply because he also contributes offen sively i m wrong again hmmm let s see where was i wrong in the first place i m only guessing here rog but i have a feeling that you ve setup a you re wrong again macro key on your machine i agree that my use of the word plugger is simplistic but i think you know what i m getting at i would also like to point out that gilmour s potential as a selke winner was never part of the debate are you asking me for an opinion if so i think there are far too many other deserving players to include gilmour among the candidates settle down if you think that i have likened the selke to the nobel prize then i suggest that you had best settle down and if you are going to try to put words in my mouth let me suggest that you settle down before you bother following up on my postings i would suggest that your comment and when the press runs out of things to say about the stars on dynasties they start to hype the pluggers grant fuhr essa tikkannen butch goring bob nystrom bob gainey doug jarvis derek sanderson wayne cashman bob baun bob pulford ralph backstrom henri richard dick duff and so on demonstrates a blanket disregard for these individuals as contributors to the game so yes settle down nobody has claimed that they are hockey gods congenially as always jd james david david student business uwo ca you might consider developing your own style after all imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and i am quite sure that flattery is not your intention c mon it has a nice ring to it and admit it you had a good laugh congenially as always jd james david david student business uwo ca j david sms business uwo ca james david western business school london ontario
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nhl team items i live in the desolate midwest as far as hockey is concerned and our sports stores around here carry very little hockey stuff except for san jose tampa bay l a pittsburgh and if you re lucky chicago i would like to know if anyone knows of any m ail order phone order stores that i might be able to get in contact with i am dying for some real hockey stuff hats shirts key chains etc for some other teams edmonton montreal etc so if you have any information please e mail me directly most appreciated good luck to your teams in the stanley cup playoffs go edmonton likely not maybe next year if you assult someone you get years in hockey minutes is this a great sport or what kevin d frank kfrank magnus acs ohio state edu
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yet more crazy predictions well here it goes my crazy predictions which never come true but hey adams bos vs buf bos in cakewalk for the hot bruins que vs mon que in best series of the first round patrick pit vs nyi pit in nyi wins fourth game was vs njd njd in a grueling upset possibly ot in game norris chi vs stl chi in stl is no match for keenan s krew det vs tor tor in clark steps it up in playoffs this year smythe who cares van vs win win in so i m caught up in teemu mania sue me cal vs lak cal in la sucks imo division finals bos vs que bos in killer games watch for cam to shine pit vs njd pit in njd go insane kill all on ice but pit wins chi vs tor tor in tor defense finally get it together cal vs win cal in win too tired after st series conference finals pit vs bos bos in pit too beat up by njd to play i hope cal vs tor tor in vernon turns into a sieve stanley cup bos vs tor tor in two totally different teams who knows dreams can come true pig might one day evolve wings feel free to laugh at my predictions i always do barfly
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re plus minus stat in vfq b w w sms business uwo ca j david sms business uwo ca james david writes if gilmour was taken completely by surprise as gainey was then yeah i would have to say that doug wasn t playing technically smart hockey in any case to claim as greg did that gainey never made a technical mistake is absolutely ludicrous later on in your posting you make reference to putting words into other people s mouths i would suggest that your last paragraph can only be interpreted in one way namely that i along with greg claim that gainey never made a technical mistake if you actually read what i ve written you will find that i make no such claim soooo if logic serves me well you re contradicting yourself nonsense i quite clearly state that it was greg that made the claim that gainey never made an error and he made the claim read below from rec sport hockey thu apr from gballent hudson uvic ca greg ballentine message id apr sol uvic ca nonsense deleted gainey is the best defensive forward ever i stand by that assessment he was a very good player who belongs in the hall of fame did you ever watch him play he never made a technical error more nonsense deleted good for you you d only be displaying your ignorance of course but to each his own roger i m not sure here but i think ignorance is really a function of a lack of knowledge and not formulating an opinion but hey if you need to take a cheap shot then by all means go ahead that s if it makes you feel better to knowledgeable observers of the game my meaning is obvious your hockey education is not my responsibility my word such vehemence against poor ol bob gainey why does he bother you so much he was an effective player for his style of play he was just another player to laud him as anything more i find bothersome i hated the habs i hated lafleur until i realized that he was likely the most aesthetically pleasing player to ever skate in my lifetime why would anyone talk about gainey go around who would you rather have as your checking centre doug gilmour or doug jarvis for that matter i would take either gretzky or mario as my checking centres do you think gretzky could cover bob gainey i m really sorry roger but you have lost me completely here why don t you ask me if i would rather have jesus christ himself in nets did he play hockey at a high level was he any good if not why would you bother to bring jc up i am talking about hockey players here if you can t follow the conversation don t follow up as i said previously it is not my responsibility to educate you now if you were to compare say for example bob gainey with guy carbonneau you would have a balanced comparison sure two journeymen big deal neither one of them is worth discussing i m wrong again hmmm let s see where was i wrong in the i would take fuhr and sanderson off of the latter first place i m only guessing here rog but i have a feeling that you ve setup a you re wrong again macro key on your machine that is an excellent idea and if i decide to waste any more time responding to any of your or greg s postings then i will be sure to implement that very macro i would suggest that your comment and when the press runs out of things to say about the stars on dynasties they start to hype the pluggers grant fuhr essa tikkannen butch goring bob nystrom bob gainey doug jarvis derek sanderson wayne cashman bob baun bob pulford ralph backstrom henri richard dick duff and so on demonstrates a blanket disregard for these individuals as contributors to the game so yes settle down nobody has claimed that they are hockey gods tarasov claimed that gainey was a hockey god and greg ate it up and that is what this thread is all about if you didn t know that then why are you responding and as for blanket disregard for these individuals i can remember leaf teams purely populated by such individuals winning four stanley cups teams no one ran around telling us that george armstrong was the best hockey player in the world congenially as always jd james david david student business uwo ca you might consider developing your own style after all imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and i am quite sure that flattery is not your intention c mon it has a nice ring to it and admit it you had a good laugh right i had to get to the end of your posting before i realized you were a complete joke in the future if you are going to respond to my postings i would appreciate it if you could present a cogent argument supported by facts gleaned from a version of reality that most of the rest of us would recognize cordially as always rm roger maynard maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca
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re how to beat pittsburgh in article afnkovk uhb rdtj andrew cmu edu robert angelo pleshar rp andrew cmu edu writes kfnjyea uh i vmus andrew cmu edu nntp posting host po andrew cmu edu in reply to kfnjyea uh i vmus andrew cmu edu from anna matyas now if we could just clone chelios s personality and transplant it into all of the defensemen on the islanders capitals and devils gerald in other words you want to turn them all into assholes so they will spend lots of time in the penalty box and get lots of misconducts and this comes from a chelios fan yeah and also be second in the team in scoring and play about minutes a game and play on the power play and kill penalties and be the best defenseman in the league i d take a whole team of chelioses if i could that way when one got a penalty the others could kill it ralph how to beat pittsburgh i mario lemieux a death too much kimo slash to skull ask the rangers slashing his wrist ii jaromir jagr a deportation send him back to whatever commie country he s from tell him that bill clinton is going too iii kevin stevens a fighting call bob probert call tie domi call my grandmother she d kick his ass
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re ahl news st john s news part xxxviii brifre ac dal ca writes in article apr news clarkson edu farenebt craft camp clarkson edu droopy writes pete raymond emailed me this piece of info not sure if game was intentionally or unintentionally omitted ie date not set bri begin quoted material because of the moncton win friday night halifax was eliminated thus st john s will make halifax home the first round of play offs wil take place on these dates april halifax metro center leafs home game april halifax metro center april moncton april moncton april halifax metro center april moncton this is a halifax or at least this halifax resident s dream come true the leafs are my favorite nhl team and no i don t know why i d say that this is even better than the citadels making the playoffs a quebec farm team who cares by the way for any nfld fans i m sure asn will carry some of the games they d be stupid not to but then this is asn i haven t heard any news about asn carrying any games but the local cable station here in st john s cable is carrying the games live hey it s better than nothing go leafs go dale why sex is so popular dale fraser dale odie cs mun ca is easy to see memorial university of newfoundland it contains no sodium cs undergrad class of and it s cholesterol free shelby friedman blue jays world series champs opinions expressed above do not belong to me or this institution
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re hockey and the hispanic community icop csa bu edu antonio pera writes the presence of the new team in miami i can t say south florida it s too long makes me think of an interesting question can you sell the hispanic community on hockey miami is hispanic this community has no experience and no previous exposure to hockey that i know of the teams in ny and la which also have big hispanic groups do not seem to try to woo this group what will miami do could they get spanish language tv and radio coverage i think as do the owners that hockey will do well in miami since there is a lot of people from the northeast that spend their winters in florida every year as for the coverage someone will have to come up with some money for that since broadcast rights can be expensive just my dale why sex is so popular dale fraser dale odie cs mun ca is easy to see memorial university of newfoundland it contains no sodium cs undergrad class of and it s cholesterol free shelby friedman blue jays world series champs opinions expressed above do not belong to me or this institution
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re espn tonight in qkj kinn g master cs rose hulman edu swartzjh rosevc rose hulman edu writes has anyone heard what game espn is showing tonight they said they will show whatever game means the most playoff wise i would assume this would be the blues tampa game or the minnesota red wings game anyone heard for sure jeff swartz i heard it will be the minnesota detroit game don t know the time though dave david monack e mail monack gas uug arizona edu love is the delusion that one woman differs from another h l mencken
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bruins in the playoffs well bruins fans it s playoff time again it looks like the b s have peaked at the right time getting out of the adams is going to be a cat fight to the end after what they did to montreal and quebec these teams will be out for revenge if neely can stay healthy and both bourque and moog stay sharp we should get to see neely finally take out two years of frustration on ulf i don t fight samuelson i don t agree with fighting in the nhl but if there is one guy who deserves to be taken out good it s him this is going to be a good series go bruins rchard richard amc com
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plus minus stat post of newsgroups rec sport hockey from maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca roger maynard subject re plus minus stat organization dept of computer science laurentian university sudbury on date fri apr gmt discussion deleted good for you you d only be displaying your ignorance of course but to each his own roger i m not sure here but i think ignorance is really a function of a lack of knowledge and not formulating an opinion but hey if you need to take a cheap shot then by all means go ahead that s if it makes you feel better to knowledgeable observers of the game my meaning is obvious your hockey education is not my responsibility my hockey education what the f are you talking about i m not even going to try to refute this absolutely insane statement my word such vehemence against poor ol bob gainey why does he bother you so much he was an effective player for his style of play he was just another player to laud him as anything more i find bothersome i hated the habs i hated lafleur until i realized that he was likely the most aesthetically pleasing player to ever skate in my lifetime why would anyone talk about gainey i hate the habs you sound like a year old this statement is just further exemplifies your total inability to argue objectively about hockey don t give me this crap about cogent arguments i ve yet to read something of yours that is cogent you consistently argue with emotion huge sweeping statements frankly you have a very unconvincing style i m not defending bob gainey frankly i don t care for him all that much but your dismissal of him as something less than an effective hockey player is tiresome it has no basis in anything how many calders did he win i think it was four go ahead and refresh my memory what about the conn smythe was that a fluke yeah not the makings of a hockey superstar i know but try to have a reason any reason to shoot him down go around who would you rather have as your checking centre doug gilmour or doug jarvis for that matter i would take either gretzky or mario as my checking centres do you think gretzky could cover bob gainey i m really sorry roger but you have lost me completely here why don t you ask me if i would rather have jesus christ himself in nets did he play hockey at a high level was he any good if not why would you bother to bring jc up i am talking about hockey players here if you can t follow the conversation don t follow up as i said previously it is not my responsibility to educate you hey cowboy you re the expert who introduced the idiotic comparison of gainey with gretzky and lemieux you figure it out now if you were to compare say for example bob gainey with guy carbonneau you would have a balanced comparison sure two journeymen big deal neither one of them is worth discussing how many individual awards between them eight i don t remember once again please feel free to refresh my memory and try to be as sarcastic as possible about my hockey education i m wrong again hmmm let s see where was i wrong in the i would take fuhr and sanderson off of the latter oh my god did i say that roger what s your point fuhr is a goaltender goaltender s don t plug in his prime he was one of the best sanderson was a scrapper if you stick him on you may as well include half the flyers team of the same era first place i m only guessing here rog but i have a feeling that you ve setup a you re wrong again macro key on your machine that is an excellent idea and if i decide to waste any more time responding to any of your or greg s postings then i will be sure to implement that very macro oh roger you shouldn t really i don t deserve this you are far too accomodating already i would suggest that your comment and when the press runs out of things to say about the stars on dynasties they start to hype the pluggers grant fuhr essa tikkannen butch goring bob nystrom bob gainey doug jarvis derek sanderson wayne cashman bob baun bob pulford ralph backstrom henri richard dick duff and so on demonstrates a blanket disregard for these individuals as contributors to the game so yes settle down nobody has claimed that they are hockey gods tarasov claimed that gainey was a hockey god and greg ate it up and that is what this thread is all about if you didn t know that then why are you responding you seem to have allowed all of these other players fall into your sweeping vacuous statement that s why if you want to debate gainey go ahead but why bring up everybody else how does it support your argument do you have an argument or do you just like to throw around a few names hoping to impress us and as for blanket disregard for these individuals i can remember leaf teams purely populated by such individuals winning four stanley cups teams no one ran around telling us that george armstrong was the best hockey player in the world great i couldn t agree more the flyers won two cups for the same reasons deservedly so so what i don t get it are you angry that the leafs didn t get more recognition you seem to think these pluggers are hyped i don t agree plain and simple if you re last statement is some sort of compromise fair enough you might consider developing your own style after all imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and i am quite sure that flattery is not your intention c mon it has a nice ring to it and admit it you had a good laugh right i had to get to the end of your posting before i realized you were a complete joke not a pleasant bone in your body eh rog why are you so unhappy not getting invited to enough parties what in the future if you are going to respond to my postings i would appreciate it if you could present a cogent argument supported by facts gleaned from a version of reality that most of the rest of us would recognize roger why are you under the impression that responding to your posts is some great honour you really should stop it sounds a little bit pathetic frankly it s about as honourable as a good fart congenially as always jd james david j david student business uwo ca s j david sms business uwo ca james david western business school london ontario
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re playoff predictions patrick st rd pens over isles in devils over caps in nd pens over devils in adams st rd b s over sabres in nords over habs in nd b s over nords in norris st hawks over stars blues in wings over leafs in nd hawks over wings in smythe st jets over canucks in call it a hunch flames over kings in nd jets over flames in wales pens over b s in campbell hawks over jets in stanley pens over hawks in bri farenell farenebt craft camp clarkson edu ahl and ecac contact for rec sport hockey go usa hockey adirondack red wings calder cup champs clarkson hockey ecac tournament champs glens falls high hockey ny division ii state champs ahl fans join the ahl mailing list ahl news request andrew cmu edu congrats to the boston bruins adams division champions phoenix suns pacific division champions
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tv schedule for next week united states tv schedule april devils islanders at pittsburgh est abc to eastern time zone april st louis at chicago cdt abc to cent mou time zones april los angeles at calgary pdt abc to pacific time zone april devils islanders at pittsburgh espn april tba espn april tba espn if somebody would send me the cbc tsn schedule i ll post that as well mike burger my canada includes quebec ontario mmb lamar colostate edu the maritimes the prairies and florida a beginning computing ta stud four months a year over students served royal canadian air farce university of michigan colorado state university
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re hockey and the hispanic community in article c i s bt odin corp sgi com rickc wrigley corp sgi com richard casares writes when was the last time you saw a hockey league in the inner city well actually now that you mention it a few weeks ago the cbc ran a documentary on ice hockey in harlem the canadian club of new york something like that sponsors a league for kids in harlem and based on the tv report they all seemed to be having a lot of fun all playing with regular equipment jerseys etc etc on a proper outdoor rink it looked just like kids playing hockey anywhere else some of the kids were even fortunate to get a trip to a hockey camp in alberta
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re plus minus stat in article apr sol uvic ca gballent vancouver uvic ca writes what it comes down to is that jagr despite being an arrogant asshole is a very good hockey player who has had a better season this year than ron francis jagr has more points and a better jagr has a higher but francis has had more points and take it from an informed observer ronnie francis has had a much better season than jaromir jagr this is not to take anything away from jaro who had a decent year although it didn t live up to the expectations of some gregmeister dean dean j falcione badges what badges we using jrmst by permission don t need no stinkin of the owner joe mcdonald badges
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re playoff predictions st round pitt vs nyi pitt in wash vs njd wash in bos vs buf bos in que vs mon mon in i d have to take quebec in chi vs stl chi in hawks will win but it will take det vs tor det in van vs win win in cal vs la cal in cal in nd round pitt vs wash pitt in bos vs mon bos in boston will beat quebec in chi vs det chi in win vs cal cal in rd round pitt vs bos pitt in pitt in the bruins arent a pushover chi vs cal chi in the hawks havent had problems with them all year yep i agree finals pitt vs chi pitt in unless the hawks can somehow change fate you re right who knows though maybe some intensive forechecking aka normal hawks style will nullify a seemingly unbeatable team maybe the pens are due for a let down hell how could they possibly extend their record making play all the way through the playoffs walter damien endemyr the unpure knight of doom so i ve acquired a taste for blood and have adopted a nocturnal lifestyle that doesnt mean i m a vampire
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re get real caps have no chance in article apr staff dccs upenn edu filinuk staff dccs upenn edu geoff filinuk writes anyone who really believes that the caps can beat the pens are kidding themselves the pens may not loose one game in the playoffs let s be honest the pens may not loose one game as you put it but they will definitely lose one game remember the regular season doesn t mean much when it comes to playoff time the caps have a shot at least the flyers sure don t frank salvatore fmsalvat eos ncsu edu
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re individual winners was re where are the doubters now hmm in article apr cci cci com dwk cci cci com dave kehrer wrote well since you mentioned it in article apr jarvis csri toronto edu migod turing toronto edu mike godfrey writes lemieux is clearly the mvp no question here chip in the masterson as well lemieux for the masterson no doubt he had an awe inspiring season but what personal records did he set this year lemieux should have hart locked up but how about mike gartner for the masterson
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re goalie masks in article netnews upenn edu kkeller mail sas upenn edu keith keller writes my vote goes to john vanbiesbrouck his mask has a skyline of new york city and on the sides there are a bunch of bees beezer it looks really sharp doesn t it also have the statue of liberty on it or is that richter s mask the back actually has a bee followed by a z to represent the beezer it also has something that looks like the three interconnecting circles from the led zepplin album cover is that what it is supposed to be and if it is does anybody know why he would put it there ali keith keller let s go rangers when i want your opinion i ll give it to you john the official language of golf is profanity in hockey hell jwodzia eng clemson edu john r wodziak the real black and gold in memorium alan kulwicki bean will triumph over those who a polish yankee mechanical engineer town are pretenders to the crown winston cup champion a great person rocks
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re pens info needed in article apr ericsson se etxonss ufsa ericsson se staffan axelsson writes actually swedish coach curt lundmark is thinking about leaving two spots open for additions from eliminated nhlers it is mats sundin and calle johansson that curt hopes can join the team although in a late stage of the tournament technically i seem to recall that you can leave spots open until hrs before the wc final hmmm i also heard through the grapevine that team finland might try and leave a spot open for at least one nhler some guy named sel nne ever hear of him they might have to be content with kurri though i hope daryl turner r s h contact for the winnipeg jets internet umturne ccu umanitoba ca fidonet or please route through tkachuk over to zhamnov up to sel nne he shoots he scores the jets win the cup the jets win the cup essensa for vezina housley for norris sel nne for calder
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re plus minus stat in article apr ramsey cs laurentian ca maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca roger maynard writes from maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca roger maynard subject re plus minus stat date wed apr gmt in dreier apr jacobi berkeley edu dreier jacobi berkeley edu roland dreier writes selanne s leads the jets teppo numminen is who do you think is better defensively ron francis of the penguins is although he has points while jaromir jagr has only points but is is jagr really better on defense than francis and how exactly should we interpret the fact that mario lemieux has by far the highest in the league does he get the selke as well as the ross the plus minus does not measure defense alone it attempts to measure a player s total contribution to the team effort and certainly it is far from perfect and my posting never implied otherwise all that my posting suggested was that the was a better indicator of a player s effectiveness when examined in the context of that player s team s performance than mere scoring totals alone and as for mario getting the selke why not after doug gilmour i would rather have lemieux on the ice in any situation other than as an enforcer obvi ously than any player in the game i used to call the selke the bob gainey award it came about as a result of the statement made by anatoli tarasov bob gainey is the best hockey player in the world i am sure that tarasov was either misquoted originally or had a tiny bit too much vodka and was toying with a reporter in any event the nhl decided to honour one dimensional checkers along with one dimen sional scorers maybe the league should start awarding the doug gil mour award anually to the league s most effective all round player cordially as always rm roger maynard maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca hey what about the roger maynard award for the most annoying fan derrick m jewlal laurel st apt waterloo
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sharks review part goaltenders as the sharks season came to a close tonight i will start a series of posts trying to revisit the players the trades the moves etc that went through for the sharks for the past season if you are uninterested since i will have the words sharks review in the subject heading in these postings you can kill them i will first try to evaluate how the players did these ratings of course are subject to my own biases but i hope that i can try to be as objective as possible i will evalute players who finished the season with the sharks and or did not play for another nhl team this season thus then let s go to the goaltenders brian hayward season th acquired from minnesota in dispersal draft grade p d it is sad that his career has to come to this dim an end a career that featured sharing three jennings trophies with patrick roy in and it would indeed be unfair for me to do anything but give him a passing grade and skip the letter grading but he had simply been awful on ice this year save for a bright spot or two and even if he had been healthy he would not be any more than the rd string goalie but hayward was a classy individual who also figured in on the sharks first ever victory the rd game of the season last year against the calgary flames as he retires the fans will remember what a good guy he was jeff hackett season rd acquired from n y islanders in expansion draft grade c hackett after deservedly winning the team mvp honors last season simply wasted the year other than a few good spots saves against los angeles almost shutout against tampa bay etc hackett finishing with save percentage and a gaa watched his status go from the team s goalie to bench decoration at the end of the season he was expected early to carry the team along instead he apparently became frustrated but the an early injury that forced him to miss games may have been a contributing factor but upon return he simply wasn t up to the task he may not return next year wade flaherty season st still eligible as rookie acquired signed as undrafted free agent grade i a it is pretty hard to evaluate a goaltender on just one game alone thus the incomplete grade but yet in the one start that he did get against the calgary flames flaherty was nothing but sharp for at least two periods he started the season poorly in kansas city but finished strong prompting the blades owner ron parker to comment that he should be a candidate for the ihl mvp honors the upcoming ihl playoffs would be a major challenge for him as he tries to make it into the nhl last year he was a capable backup for arturs irbe in the throughout the season and in the turner cup playoffs picking up all star honors along with irbe now it s time for him to show that he can share the job with irbe next year because with prospects dan ryder trevor robins and scott cashman coming along if he doesn t make it next year he may not ever arturs irbe season st acquired from minnesota in dispersal draft grade b i may yet be overly critical of irbe in a year that he clearly established that he s a bona fide nhl goaltender perhaps a bona fide goaltender he has provided most of the little highlight footage that the sharks team had getting the team s first ever shut out against the los angeles kings on december he has been fearless in and out of the net aggressively playing the puck and making passes reminding people of a young ron hextall except of course the goonism yet he still needs to develop more consistency which is hard to do with such a bad defense in front of him but if the sharks are to challenge for a playoff spot next season irbe s the key as he demonstrated in being named as a star of the game times in starts go calgary flames al macinnis for norris gary roberts for hart and smythe go edmonton oilers go for playoffs next year stay in edmonton nelson lu claudius leland stanford edu rec sport hockey contact for the san jose sharks
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british championship playoffs apr group a group b cardiff devils bracknell bees nottingham panthers billingham humberside whitley warriors murrayfield racers fife flyers whitley bay cardiff devils billingham bombers murrayfield humberside bracknell bees nottingham panthers fife flyers cardiff devils humberside murrayfield racers nottingham bracknell bees whitley bay fife flyers billingham bracknell bees cardiff devils billingham bombers nottingham whitley bay humberside fife flyers murrayfield p w d l f a p p w d l f a p cardiff devils murrayfield racers humberside nottingham panthers whitley bay billingham bombers bracknell bees fife flyers indicates qualified for championship finals relegation promotion a relegation promotion b basingstoke swindon wildcats sheffield steelers peterborough durham wasps romford raiders slough jets mk kings basingstoke durham wasps sheffield steelers milton keynes swindon romford raiders milton keynes kings peterborough durham wasps swindon wildcats slough jets sheffield romford basingstoke peterborough slough jets romford durham wasps peterborough sheffield swindon basingstoke milton keynes kings slough jets p w d l f a p p w d l f a p basingstoke sheffield steelers durham wasps peterborough swindon milton keynes kings romford raiders slough jets o neil a mcglynn o nmcglynn axion bt co uk o british telecom laboratories martlesham heath ipswich uk
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stop predicting it is really annoying to see all of these predictions on the net who really cares who you think will win please stop with the predictions we all know the caps are going to win the cup so let it go at that david kaupang cdkaupan eos ncsu edu
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re pens info needed in article c k e m ccu umanitoba ca umturne ccu umanitoba ca daryl turner writes hmmm i also heard through the grapevine that team finland might try and leave a spot open for at least one nhler some guy named sel nne ever hear of him they might have to be content with kurri though i hope true coach matikainen is ready to keep a spot for teemu all the way until the medal games he wants teppo numminen too and kurri but for them the spots cannot be left open for too long esa tikkanen we have already even without these players i think we have pretty good team young hungry talented guys no old players that have got everything except the gold yesterday s practise game swe fin shows that the two world s best hockey teams are in prime shape the finn line riihijarvi slightly injured saarikoski viitakoski shined i bet these two teams are the best in the nhl too roger roger what do you people think about team canada with lindros brind amour burke ranford recchi dineen can they beat the finns coaching news alpo suhonen ex jets to jokerit now verified boris majorov ex jokerit to tappara vasili tichonov ex assat to san jose sharks assistant coach sakari pietila to lulea silver team in elite serien fw mikko makela ex tps to malmo if g markus ketterer jokerit still has no contract fw timo saarikoski to jokerit watch out for him in next week
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re expanding to europe dusseldorf in article apr abo fi mlindroos finabo abo fi marcus lindroos inf writes in pkortela apr lk hp hut fi pkortela snakemail hut fi writes deg has many german born forwards in the team in fact the majority of players are german born deg had average in spectator arena interesting one of our german friends here robert told me their forwards were all canadian germans perhaps somebody can sort this out for us as far as i know dusseldorf has only one canadian german forward i e a player who was born in canada but now has a german passport benoit doucet became german by marriing a german and he is going to play for germany in the wc the other canada born forwards are peter john lee has british passport chris valentine dale dercatch steve gootas earl spry at the moment there are only three german born forwards coming into my mind bernd trunschka andreas brockmann ernst koepf volker
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re suhonen will not go to jokerit in tvartiai vipunen hut fi tvartiai vipunen hut fi tommi vartiainen writes according to the inside information alpo suhonen won t be the next headcoach of jokerit it s pretty sure that boris majorov will continue although owner of the team previously said that he will chance the coach tommi wrong information they just announced that suhonen has made a deal with jokerit tommi and boris majorov has made a year deal with tappara svante
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hockey playoff pool last chance this will be my last post promotion of the hockey pool i will update the pool or try to every wednesday subject please join my hockey playoff pool deadline for pool midnight saturday rules read on cost none prizes none send replies to montana pinetree org note if your entries is send by midnight saturday it will be accepted please include your name rules to the acme hockey playoff pool critierias pick forwards as long as they are forwards lw rw c is okay pick defensemen arrange them in a lines forwards and two defense line and arranged them in line order which of your players would play in the first line and which plays in the second line pick designated playmaker can be any positions try a defensemen pick designated scorer can be any positions pick goal tender pick a team the one you think may win the cup note players can only be chosen once ie cannot have sakic as forward and again as designated passer calculation of points except for designated scorer and playmaker assist pt ixi goal pt ii for players in line their pt totals will be line pts line pts line pts win pt for goalies the team that wins the cup pts for the designated playmaker designated calculation will be as follows scorer goal pts every goal scored points assists pts every assists points in the event of a tie the tie will be broken by unmodified goal totals and then by game winning goals sample eg designated scorer jeremy roenick actual g a pts modified g a designated playmaker steve smith actual g a pts modified g a line j murphy g courtnall m messier dave manson iafrate total points points for that line internet montana pinetree org david wong uucp pinetree montana gordon s pinetree ottawa on canada v bis v bis
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re plus minus stat in apr ramsey cs laurentian ca maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca roger maynard writes good for you you d only be displaying your ignorance of course but to each his own roger i m not sure here but i think ignorance is really a function of a lack of knowledge and not formulating an opinion but hey if you need to take a cheap shot then by all means go ahead that s if it makes you feel better to knowledgeable observers of the game my meaning is obvious your hockey education is not my responsibility just curious roger but since you have such a vast knowledge of the game and the league how come you haven t made a living out of it there must be a lot of demand for expertise in the field i m sure you d be of great help to say the leafs as an assistant coach or a scout or maybe try a career as a reporter or tv commentator i might be wrong of course and you already have jukka a virtanen juvirtan cc helsinki fi university of helsinki
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sweden finland april played in scandinavium gothenburg april sweden finland st swe peter popovic markus naslund fin ville siren keijo sailynoja pp fin juha riihijarvi timo saarikoski vesa viitakoski pp nd fin jari korpisalo kari harila rauli raitanen swe jan larsson mikael renberg stefan nilsson swe hakan ahlund thomas rundqvist swe roger akerstrom roger hansson rd swe stefan nilsson patrik juhlin charles berglund fin keijo sailynoja fin keijo sailynoja ps swe mikael renberg hakan ahlund thomas rundqvist fin jari korpisalo shots on goal penalties attendance referee sweden min peter andersson finland min min sweden sweden opened the scoring as markus naslund made a drop pass at the finnish blue line popovic picked it up and advanced towards the finnish goal and shot a nice hard wrist shot in ketterer s top corner ville siren s slap shot from the blue line on power play made it and juha riihijarvi scored a nice goal in another power play when he close in front of goal put the puck high over aslin after the first period the finns started the second period with really good pressure korpisalo made it with another goal from close range high over aslin then during the finnish pressure sweden turned the game around in mikael renberg worked hard behind the finnish goal and passed the puck to jan larsson in front who backhanded the puck low rundqvist entered the finnish zone and passed to ahlund and the finnish defense let ahlund skate in and take a shot that ketterer dropped into the goal next roger hansson behind the goal sent the puck back to the blue line where roger akerstrom took a slap shot and ketterer didn t see the puck since there was traffic in front third period started with a nice goal by stefan the shadow nilsson stefan and patrik juhlin entered the finnish zone patrik passed the puck back to stefan who alone with ketterer made no mistake then keijo sailynoja show started he reduce and equalized the lead in only seconds first he scored the goal and after that he came in alone with aslin but was tripped by aslin to get a penalty shot sailynoja made a nice penalty shot showed forehand and put in with a low backhand shot the swedes seemed to head for a win when mikael renberg scored the goal late in the game on a nice power play combination renberg waited in the slot showed that he wanted the puck on the backhand side ahlund passed the puck and renberg took a turnaround shot low in ketterer s goal s far side but jari korpisalo had other plans as he only seconds later scored the game s final goal to make it korpisalo took a slap shot from a narrow angle that maybe aslin should have saved all in all a decent game where the defense wasn t the best both teams juggled around the lines a bit in the second and third period to try no combinations renberg and rundqvist plays well together in the swedish team larsson nilsson juhlin best line overall again it seems to be a working wc line stillman good on defense some players aren t good enough for the wc though hakan ahlund faell ner hjaelmen och jobba roger hansson challe berglund kenny jonsson will likely have to leave for nhl pros two goal scorers jari korpisalo and keijo sailynoja played well in the finnish team markus ketterer didn t have a very good game we ve seen him a lot better so lindfors is probably finland s starting goalie in the wc i heard that esa tikkanen will join the finnish team it would be inter resting to know which other pros coach matikainen counts on for the wc starting lines sweden finland peter aslin markus ketterer kenneth kennholt mikko haapakoski fredrik stillman ville siren hakan ahlund jarkko varvio thomas rundqvist mika nieminen mikael renberg keijo sailynoja roger akerstrom erik hamalainen arto blomsten kari harila jan larsson rauli raitanen stefan nilsson petri varis patrik juhlin jari korpisalo peter popovic timo jutila stefan larsson harri laurila roger hansson juha riihijarvi fredrik nilsson timo saarikoski peter ottosson vesa viitakoski pasi sormunen janne laukkanen markus naslund juha ylonen peter forsberg timo peltomaa jonas bergqvist marko palo played parts of the game charles berglund mika alatalo kenny jonsson saku koivu marko palo staffan axelsson etxonss ufsa ericsson se r s h contact for swedish hockey
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finland sweden vs nhl teams was helsinki stockholm nhl expansion in tervio katk helsinki fi tervio katk helsinki fi writes now what if the two teams were merged this has been proposed in tampere with ilves lynx and tappara axe the fans wouldn t take it they rather see their teams out of the playoffs most of the time or even relegated than merged it s not that difficult to understand it s just like here in helsinki you grow up being either a jokerit or hifk fan the other team is the last team in the world you would support i m not talking about hate but about extremely deeply rooted rivalry deeply rooted rivalry ahem jokerit have been around since and joined the top flight only in the early s helsingfors ifk have been around since but fans only started taking hockey seriously in the s so i think you re exagerating here however it s been proved that both fan groups can cheer the same team that s the finnish national team maybe that s how you could set up a huge franchise in finland no one has ever said that the team must be called after one city or play all its games on one arena just one team finland and team sweden in the nhl just wouldn t make any sense we have way more talent than th of the total of north american talent after a couple of seasons you would never see the cup going anywhere outside the nordic presuming that our teams would have the advantage in drafting local talent as prooposed that s a rather bold claim in the light of how successful the canadian american olympic teams have been and they ve had to play according to our set of rules and on international ice the olympic teams contained about as much talent as your average expansion team canada had eric lindros sean burke joe juneau and chris kontos another four or five have been deep subs in the nhl as for the yanks keith tkachuk scott lachance bret hedican shawn mceachern steve heintze ted donato joe sacco and bill guerin have been rd th line players in the nhl while robb stauber has done well for the kings in goal nothing more in fact i m sure that an all star team assembled from the best finnish league teams would do no better in the nhl than hartford or tampa bay currently are doing but what happens if all top class finnish swedish players gradually end up with helsinki stockholm as the north american based ones gradually retire and no canadian american team is allowed to draft new players from scandinavia here is what the hockey news scouts think of our nhl based players superstar star nhl regular nhl regular role player finland d jyrki lumme d teppo numminen d peter ahola c jari kurri c christian ruuttu r teemu selanne l esa tikkanen obviously selanne s ratings would be higher today than they were in january sweden d ulf samuelsson d fredrik olausson d niklas lidstrom d calle johansson d kjell samuelsson d tommy sjodin d tommy albelin c mats sundin c thomas steen r thomas sandstrom r ulf dahlen r michael nylander l per erik eklund l johan garpenlov l mikael andersson l jan erixon this would be interesting clearly finland s top five players winnipeg s selanne numminen vancouver s lumme los angeles jari kurri and new york s tikkanen are right up there with any five man unit pittsburgh co have but i have my doubts about the home based finnish players the national team did well in the canada cup and world championships largely due to the efforts of markus ketterer the goalie or the players listed above and luck there s presumably a lot of decent players in finland that wouldn t be superstars at the highest level but still valuable role players however my guess would be that the finnish canada cup team would be a team in the nhl sweden is easier to judge because they have more players in north america their points total players is seven more than ottawa s top players combined if we estimate there are six more nhl regulars back home in sweden an all swedish team would assemble about skill points deducting some points from pittsburgh ny rangers and other teams that rely on swedish players the swedish team would finish in sixth place about as high as boston vancouver calgary and montreal on paper so the dynasty talk isn t completely unfounded here an all finnish all swedish team might have an advantage because the players would be playing at home half of the time won t have to adapt to a foreign country and a foreign language and presumably play the wide open european variant of hockey rather than have to learn the north american checking game however if free agency becomes a factor the top scandinavian players still might end up playing for large market teams after a couple of years the same way edmonton s dynasty crumbled in the late s some fringe players likely will be drafted by other nhl teams as having an exclusive talent pool might be a bit unfair after all i d settle for a compromise prohibit all european teams from signing a north american during the first two rounds but allow them to keep their top two players after this the amateur draft should be open to anyone j o o j o o j o k e r i t finland over czech in the final b r u i n p o w e r bruins over blackhawks in marcu
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nhlpa poll stats rd uptade rd uptade here are the standings for the poll after votes points for st for nd point for th ea nhlpa game det chi ny van mtl pit wsh bos asw cgy que ase wpg la otw stl tor buf phi tby sj min atlanta to win turner cup not in the game but person vote edm htf li nj teams have no point continue to send your votes in this format until april th approximately keywords email iskander ayari loria fr ou ayari loria fr
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truly a sad day for hockey a fine year history came to a close tonight as the minnesota north stars or norm s stars whichever you prefer lost to the red wings by a score of the stars goals were scored by mike mcphee and ulf dahlen who netted two including the final one in franchise history with less than a minute to play tonight on the air on the stars tv telecast announcer al shaver the voice of the north stars stated basically that he will not follow the team to dallas shaver when asked by his son who was doing the broadcast with him what will you do now responded first i m going to get me a new pair of slippers then i m going to sit in my easy chair and watch the world go by thank you north stars and thank you al shaver for years of minnesota memories joel alvstad
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re new finnish star is born in article apr tnclus tele nokia fi hahietanen tnclus tele nokia fi writes i saw yesterday on tv a game between team sweden and team finland most of us might know that it was played in stockholm and the result was for the home team that s nothing very special but i was very surprised of saku koivu i must admit that he surprised me already in the finnish playoffs and now on team finland saku koivu is a light weight player if we consider his size according to my stats he is only cm and kgs and he is only but he is a real two way player skates well can score gives nice passes does even bodycheckings he is really something to watch in the wc the size isn t always everything maybe we remember harlamov and they say that saku is still growing up cm during last year saku isn t that small any longer i guess i heard he is cm tall at the moment and will still grow cm petteri kortelainen
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re helsinki stockholm nhl expansion in article apr abo fi mlindroos finabo abo fi marcus lindroos inf writes in c h wr j polaris utu fi franti polaris utu fi writes not too low perhaps but surely not as high as that of an european nhl division the finnish team for example would contain all players currently on the national team plus a top class foreigner or two they would be in an entirely different league than tps or jokerit both of whom have perhaps a dozen players of international class if even that why settle for a minor league when you could have the best how many players of international class an average nhl team has top players just play more in smaller rinks is the quality of european hockey really poor then recent years only few north american usually good farm players players have got place in finnish league or elitserien while most have been shipped back petteri kortelainen
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re radio stations in article ragraca vela acs oakland edu ragraca vela acs oakland edu randy a graca writes greanias texas mitre org steve greanias writes i do not have cable and on the nights the caps don t play i would like to tune in other games does anyone have a list of the radio stations which broadcast the games for the nhl teams thanks in advance i can give you a couple in detroit wjr will be broadcasting at least the first couple of games of the wings toronto series and since they broadcast at watts you may be able to pick it up after dark where you are at the pittsburgh penguins games used to be broadcast on kdka but i don t know whether they will be pre empted by baseball and moved to another station or not you can try those if the local baseball teams aren t playing at the same time anyway randy kdka has first rights to pirates games and will split probably in conflicts for penguins games which are preempted check out wdve fm that s right dve it is also watts kevin l stamber purdue university no funny sig today
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new franchise name the new name is florida panthers the panther is an endangered species mostly located in the everglades a couple of years ago there were license plates made with panthers on them part of the revenue were to go to some protection fund the name of the new president of the panthers should be announced today as of yesterday s paper huizenga s new hockey team will take the ice at the miami arena this fall the team has a guaranteed two year lease with the arena with four one year options that could run through it s not our choice james blosser a lawyer and huizenga aid said about ruling out the arena as a long term option the nhl told us we can t stay there it s not economically feasible one reason is because the miami heat basketball team controls skybox and advertising revenue at the arena reducing the hockey team s profit potential the hockey team is attracting arena site proposals from broward dade and palm beach counties a leading site is vacant land near joe robbie stadium where residents days ago agreed to drop their opposition to a hockey arena ending an eight year battle of wills compliments of the news sun sentinel jim g fitz sanchez castranova
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