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re mogilny must be benched in article c c r sq acsu buffalo edu v p nk ubvmsb cc buffalo edu andrew w korbut writes anyway this game continued a trend that has sadly been taking shape for a couple of weeks now i had hoped it was fatigue or an aberration but i can t snow myself any longer alex mogilny must be benched as a disciplinary action and soon his explanation for ysebaert jumping between him and lafontaine to score the winning goal yesterday wasn t my guy ask patty about it actually this stuff from mogilny doesn t surprise me all that much about or weeks ago i read in the toronto sun a quote from alex it went something like sarcastically yep patty s the man he s responsible for the team s success i m a nobody around here i was going to post it at the time i must have forgot since nobody else was talking about him being a problem if i heard that in the locker room i d beat the shit out of him on the spot patty took responsibility in the press taking the heat off of alex that s because lafontaine is the epitome of class and a consummate team player yep i d beat the shit out of him too lafontaine really must be a team player makes you wonder what the islander management was thinking my question is what the hell is muckler doing whether he wishes to admit it or not the team is his to coach and if he can t do the job then maybe the job should be given to somebody who can gee kinda like alex s spot on the team isn t it dr d the devils advocate
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re canadians another stanley cup in article mece ryevm ryerson ca mece ryevm ryerson ca writes im sorry to tell you this but unless they pull off another miracle there is no way the habs will win this year ever since they traded for ramage and since savard came off injury they have been playing shinny and you cant blame roy for the loss to washington when players could not score one goal i know you think i am a boston fan but all of my years have been dedicated to les habs david degan well it seems that the habs have been much talked about of late so here s my these guys have absolutely no concept of how to play in front of the damn net watch them in the offensive zone especially on the powerplay damphousse or lebeau will skate all over the bloody zone maybe pass to the point get it back skate some more pass it around but where s the shot answer the shot is totally useless because they lack a forward who stands in front of the net a la neely shanahan tocchet etc etc too bad demers won t put dipietro or leclair on the powerplay more often dammit even ewen would at least cause some disruptions montreal desperately needs a power forward with some talent imo then watch them in their own zone patrick roy is screened on everything say what you want about his performance imnsho he cannot stop what he cannot see and montreal s defence does a miserable job of clearing the front of the net last night against washington roy played a great game the first goal came on the most ridiculous goalmouth scramble i ve seen in a long time and he didn t have a hope in hell of stopping the shot the second goal came on a deflection of a shot he only partially saw anyway pathetic defence the third goal was en no wonder he gets pissed off at his defencemen dchhabra stpl ists ca
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re vlad s playoff picks in article vzhivov cunews vzhivov alfred carleton ca vladimir zhivov writes wales conference adams division semifinal boston vs buffalo the bruins are playing some excellent hockey and with cam neely back and moog his old self again this should be a cake walk bruins in i m hoping for a fuhr miracle but i agree that boston will likely win the series goaltending is about equal top offensive players are about equal mogilny lafontaine vs oates juneau but buffalo has no answer to neely not to imply that neely is not a top offensive player btw in fact he s one of my favourites even though he s a damn bruin and the rest of the matchup wrt lineup favours boston anyway but i think it will go six quebec vs montreal this one is very tough to call montreal certainly has the experience factor but quebec is more talented imho it ll come down to the goalies i ll go with experience and roy canadiens in agreed here but montreal will be pushed to the limit is it just me or does everything montreal does in the playoffs come down to roy go habs final boston vs montreal will bruin domination continue in this rivalry yes moog has consistently outperformed roy in the playoffs after other stuff bruins in five i can t predict a montreal victory because i ve been watching them play for weeks and imo they severly need some tougher players especially to play in the garden last time they beat the b s but boston had a clear territorial advantage the victory was roy s at the same time i can t bring myself to predict the possibility of a loss so i ll just say i will not be putting money on this series patrick division semifinal pittsburgh vs ny islanders what can i say the pens are flying high and have the most talent in the league agreed ny doesn t have the goaltending to stop the onslaught independent of the trouble they have given pittsburgh this year pens in five which is credit to ny washington vs new jersey capitals in agreed here too but i think it will go at least six jersey has a decent team and washington has done poorly against the division this year pittsburgh vs washington if the caps had bill ranford i might see an upset but don beaupre just doesn t inspire my hopes penguins in i think they will use tabaracci more after beaupre gets shelled i don t think it will go six either maybe five conference final pittsburgh vs boston a replay of last year the penguins are just as good as months ago and the bruins are much improved but penguins in if pittsburgh plays boston imo they win in likely five possibly six they own the bruins if they play montreal i think it will go to seven and once again i won t be putting money on the seventh game i say seven because the habs have played pittsburgh very tough this season campbell conference norris division semifinal chicago vs st louis or minnesota blackhawks in chicago will win but i think in at least six chicago is not that good imo and remember that they take ridiculous numbers of penalties detroit vs toronto the leafs have had an excellent season but they ve been playing playoff hockey all year the habs under burns were the same way and always wilted in the playoffs red wings in very true the leafs have much to be proud of but they will soon find out why montreal did so lousy in the playoffs toronto might win two or three at mlg though wings in six maybe even seven final chicago vs detroit this will be a war fedorov will win it in ot red wings in it will be a war possibly the most intense playoff series of them all and yes i think detroit will win probert will have to come up big though smythe division semi finals vancouver vs winnipeg canucks in our first disagreement canucks are playing like shit they don t use their size at all which may explain why they get hammered by a team chasing them calgary winnipeg in six calgary vs los angeles this would have been tough to call except for three things the kings don t have a goalie gary roberts will be back the kings shot themselves in the foot by trading a proven winner paul coffey for a proven loser jimmy carson gretzky is just too weary to carry this group flames in this is also tough for me to call because i haven t seen the smythe enough i don t think roberts will be well enough to figure in coffey is a non issue who cares what carson has done before and never underestimate gretzky la in six final vancouver vs calgary flames in if it is these two calgary will not need six games but i think it will be la winnipeg anyway and la in seven because of home ice coference final detroit vs calgary red wings in wow must ve been tough to go against your team but let s see i picked la detroit detroit will win probably in six stanley cup final pittsburgh vs detroit three in a row and official dynasty status for the pens or can the wings complete a dream season well the wings are better in goal not sufficiently so though imho and have better d men however mario and the boys can sure score look for jagr to shine in the playoffs though i sure would love to see probert beat some sense into him the pens are just too much especially since detroit will have a tougher battle to get here penguins in if pittsburgh plays detroit it will go longer than five and i wouldn t bet against the wings they are very strong imo and nobody knows how strong because they ve been underachieving most of the year if forced to choose though i d have to take the penguins a side note vlad last week you said that selanne was a better player than gilmour no way he is a more talented pure goal scorer but aside from the age difference there is no way i would take him over gilmour on my team i m not asking for flames either btw i ve spent more than enough time arguing on behalf of selanne and i still say he s a great player but while he and gilmour are both dangerous offensively give teemu an edge gilmour does it all i know a lot of gilmour bashing goes on esp from flame fans but imo you guys are letting your dislike of gilmour cloud your judgement when it comes to his skill he is easily one of the best all round players in the nhl dchhabra stpl ists ca
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nhl summary parse results for games played wed april boston ottawa first period boston roberts juneau boston wiemer juneau oates second period boston neely juneau murphy boston hughes richer kimble ottawa archibald rumble lamb third period ottawa boschman kudelski boston power play scorer g a pts hughes juneau kimble murphy neely oates richer roberts wiemer ottawa power play scorer g a pts archibald boschman kudelski lamb rumble washington ny rangers first period no scoring second period no scoring third period washington bondra pivonka cavallini washington bondra cote pivonka washington power play scorer g a pts bondra cavallini cote pivonka ny rangers power play no scoring ny islanders hartford first period ny islanders ferraro malakhov king ny islanders hogue thomas turgeon hartford yake poulin hartford yake nylander poulin second period hartford verbeek cassels weinrich pp ny islanders thomas king ferraro third period hartford burt sanderson cassels ny islanders malakhov hogue overtime hartford janssens poulin hartford power play scorer g a pts burt cassels janssens nylander poulin sanderson verbeek weinrich yake ny islanders power play scorer g a pts ferraro hogue king malakhov thomas turgeon pittsburgh new jersey first period pittsburgh daniels needham tippett new jersey lemieux semak driver pittsburgh stevens tocchet murphy pp new jersey zelepukin driver niedermayer second period pittsburgh lemieux stevens tocchet new jersey semak lemieux zelepukin pittsburgh mceachern jagr barrasso new jersey stevens guerin pellerin pittsburgh lemieux unassisted sh new jersey richer nicholls new jersey lemieux semak zelepukin third period pittsburgh mullen jagr lemieux overtime no scoring pittsburgh power play special goals pp sh total scorer g a pts barrasso daniels jagr lemieux mceachern mullen murphy needham stevens tippett tocchet new jersey power play scorer g a pts driver guerin lemieux nicholls niedermayer pellerin richer semak stevens zelepukin
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re rheaume start just a quick note about manon s immediate future rumor has it usa today s spor ts page that she will be playing with tampa bay s affiliate in the echl i thin k it s been a couple of days she will supposedly be competing for the num ber goaltender spot i think after her performance which was damn good for someone who hasn t played squat all year that we ll be seeing a lot more of h er in atlanta in the years to come ward go blades bring home the turner cup again
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re what s so bad about the new playoff format in article bu edu icop csa bu edu antonio pera writes what s so bad about the new playoff format do you really believe teams that finish fourth in their div deserve to be in the playoffs with the new format you have more of a chance to see more teams do you really want to see the bruins against the sabres umpteen times or would you rather see the bruins and the capitals in the secound round of playoffs there is really nothing inherently wrong with it but they tried it just a little over a decade ago and noone showed up for the early rounds in the playoffs whereas soon after they went to the divisional set up arenas were mostly filled in the early rounds the empirical evidence of the last two decades is that more people will show up to see the bruins play the sabre umpteen times than see the bruins play the captials in the first round maybe hockey has increased in popularity sufficiently that this will no longer be the case the experiment is worthwhile with the uneven distribution of the expansion teams but i prefer the divisional playoff gerald
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re for sale edmonton oilers in article mcm b w w ersys edmonton ab ca mbevan ersys edmonton ab ca mark bevan writes he was already offered million for them from northlands coliseum but refused the offer i don t think he is going to sale i think he may decide to move the team to the states though where he can draw more revenue from the team pocklington just wanted to wake up the powers that be holding political office in northlands and in the business community that the oilers with their current lease arrangement are in a state where on a yearly basis they will likely have an operating loss based on normal hockey revenues and expenses that he did this was a good thing it is better he complain early and make the city aware of a potential looming crisis before he begins to lose millions and millions of dollars which would truly jeopardize the franchise pocklington s first option is not to sell or to move but to sell a minority share of the team to realize some of the appreciated value of the team and to get a better arena deal either in northlands or via a new building pocklington probably isn t going to get exactly what he wants but ultimately he will probably get enough or will sell to someone who will probably get enough there are a lot of risks in moving a team also one has to remember peter puck s principle it is better to spend other people s money than one s own if at all possible gerald
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re hockey and the hispanic community in c i s bt odin corp sgi com rickc wrigley corp sgi com richard casares writes you ll have a hard time selling any sport to a community that can t play it on account of availability or financial reasons hockey is pretty much a sport for the white and well off what white yes well off definitely not hockey season ticket owners have the lowest average income of any of the four major north american sports and think of where the majority of hockey players come from from a farm out in boondock saskatchewan or weedville alberta when was the last time you saw a hockey league in the inner city the insurance alone is a big enough barrier the inner city isn t the only place that is poor i think the biggest barrier to hockey in the inner city is no ice to play on stace rick casares silicon graphics cubfan wrigley corp sgi com n shoreline blvd just wait till next year mountain view ca
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re winning streaks you might want to clarify the game winning streak that pens streak is a playoff streak tied by the chicago blackhawks who had won in a row until they met the pens in the finals last year the game unbeaten so far is a regular season unbeaten streak but hey don t take it personally i m a flyers fan and two in a row is a stretch but with a healthy lindros recchi brind amour and tommy soderstrom they ll be there next year by the way since the flyers need defenseman what kind of trade would anybody suggest from the existing flyers roster since the scuttlebutt is that terry carkner won t be there next year and apart from him a piece of notebook paper would be better defense matt weaver properly found at ajs psuvm psu edu hey at least we re not the whalers
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re washington to beat pitt in article rap psuvm psu edu robbie po rap psuvm psu edu writes in article apr mprgate mpr ca tasallot galaxy mpr ca mathew tasalloti says chances this year but it seems to me like washington is the only team that can stop the penguins from winning their next stanley cup really i think both the islanders and devils would have a better chance at the penguins than the capitals imo robbie po pgh penguins it won t be easy but it contact for the stanley cup will have greater rewards penn state lady lions champions mountains and valleys are rap psuvm psu edu straight wins better than nothing at all really what makes you think the islanders have a better shot they couldn t even beat the whalers in two games well since you re a pens fans the whole question is moot i think the teams most likely to beat the pens are the bruins nordiques and blackhawks but i don t think they can really do it tom galvin galvint taurus cs nps navy mil
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re bruins vs canadiens talentwise in article apr amc com richard amc com richard wernick writes the bottom line is the bruins are the better team this year montreal fans have been screaming for years that their beloved canadiens deserve another cup since the removal of the french canadien rule they have been screaming foul welcome to league parity something the rest of the league has had for years even if the habs do beat boston in the playoffs they won t get by the pens i do agree with you boston is the more taleneted team the french canadian rule was an extremely short term feature when the universal draft was instituted in the sixties and only lasted for a few years and really didn t have any substantial effect during that period the canadiens stanley cup achievements were earned on a level playing field gerald
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re playoff predictions ok i ll join in the fun and give my playoff predictions st round pitt vs nyi pitt in wash vs njd wash in bos vs buf bos in que vs mon mon in chi vs stl chi in det vs tor det in van vs win win in cal vs la cal in nd round pitt vs wash pitt in bos vs mon bos in chi vs det chi in win vs cal cal in rd round pitt vs bos pitt in chi vs cal chi in finals pitt vs chi pitt in walter
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re giveaways in article apr philabs philips com jpc philabs philips com john p curcio writes that s probably because they couldn t find anyone to sponser it maybe uss could sponser the pittsburgh penguins us steel steel rod night close enough maybe in the s but not now steel is a dead industry in pgh no a giveaway night in the s for pgh would be baboon liver night sponored by the pittsburgh zoo lori
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goalie masks i m starting an informal poll on goalie masks i d like to know who s mask you think looks the best i ve always like curtis joseph s of the blues the best anyway send your nominations to me or post your vote here on r s h my e mail adress is gtd a prism gatech edu thanks for your time go skins now for the next question does emotional music have quite go braves an effect on you mike patton faith no more go hornets go capitals mike friedman hrivnak fan internet gtd a prism gatech edu
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nhlpa poll stats nd uptade nd uptade here are the standings for the poll after votes points for st for nd point for th ea nhlpa game det chi van ny mtl pit was bos que cal asw la tor ase win buf phi sj min otw atlanta to win turner cup not in the game but person vote continue to send your votes in this format until april th approximately
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re barasso the cheap shot master robert angelo pleshar rp andrew cmu edu writes after watching the pengiuns all year and as many other teams as possible i ve really noticed an increase in tom barasso s cheap shots this year and not noticed a corrsponding increase with other goaltenders have a look at ed belfour he also kicked john mclean of course he wasn t called for that belfour kicked gerrard gallant when the wings played the hawks a couple of weeks ago no penalty no review no suspension this was after he attacked bob probert in the previous period he was penalized for that there s no doubt in my mind that barasso is the dirtiest golatender since hextall he s also very good likewise belfour too bad he goes down so much ralph brian down bdown vis toronto edu
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re plus minus stat lor cbnewsk cb att com edward lor writes player points subtraction lemieux lafontaine oates yzerman selanne this is wrong among lemieux s points we do not know how many are power play points we may be able to find out how many pp goal he scored but not how many pp assist he accumulated we also don t know the times he was on the ice but not credited on the goals the pens scored that is what my point really was there is not straight dependency between the and scored points apparently most of the netters have realized it by themselves
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the hawks will return to the finals well now that the hawks have won the division the road is a little easier for the playoffs let toronto and detroit beat the hell out of each other while chicago sweeps st louis that just makes it easier in the second round with all the rest they will get and tor det getting none for the conf champ they will have a hard time versus the division but that div will be pretty battered also so the advantage goes to the hawks again then bring pitt and sure the hawks will probably lose but its better to get that far and lose than to not go brian
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re washington to beat pitt in article apr ncsu edu fmsalvat eos ncsu edu frank michae salvatore writes what makes you think so i d like to understand your reasoning from my seat the caps don t really appear to believe that they can defeat pittsburgh therefore they don t i think their spirit was broken in last year s playoffs and hasn t really recovered i don t know what the season series numbers were but i believe that the pens won it i think that either the devils or the islanders will cause more problems for what is this spirit crap i m a caps fan and hope they win if they end up facing pittsburgh but i don t think the caps lose to pitt because of lack of spirit yes the penguins won the season series against the caps they ve won eighteen games in a row for god s sake did you ever think the penguins might be good and that s why they win i re read what i wrote and it didn t say exactly what i thought sure the pens are a better team they ve got size and the best skill players in the league they ve also got the best clutch goaltending they re the best team in the league but my point was the caps have not played to their ability level vs the pens since last year s choke and that s the mental problem the one they ve had for a number of years i tried to point out spirit mental preparedness will to win whatever you want to call it it s missing when the caps play the pens actually you re right it won t make any difference george
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re mogilny must be benched dchhabra stpl ists ca deepak chhabra writes actually this stuff from mogilny doesn t surprise me all that much about or weeks ago i read in the toronto sun a quote from alex it went something like sarcastically yep patty s the man he s responsible for the team s success i m a nobody around here i was going to post it at the time i must have forgot since nobody else gee kinda like alex s spot on the team isn t it how can you assume it was a sarcastic remark for someone whose first language is not english i would interpret that comment to mean that he believes pat is the mvp on the team and that he is just one of the other normal players quite modest i might say
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re leaf slump over in apr newshub ists ca dchhabra stpl ists ca deepak chhabra writes on march roger maynard wrote in reply to an article by graham hudson you don t think he is performing under pressure now the major differences between playoff hockey and normal hockey is play ing every other night which is physically exhausting and you play the same team in a consecutive string of games is this what you mean by pressure have you even thought about what you mean by pressure or are your thoughts like most of the rest of this drivel simply half baked this was mar ramsey cs laurentian ca for anybody who would like to check he went on in another article to say paraphrased playoff hockey is just an expression used by announcers to convince simple minded folks like yourself that what you are seeing is a better product than a regular season game now however in article apr ramsey cs laurentian ca roger maynard writes with a win over a tough whaler squad the leafs showed all doubters what playoff hockey is all about so roger what exactly is playoff hockey all about or is it a convenient phrase to use in certain circumstances only you see when you spout off with flame bait too many times sooner or later it catches up with you nice try deepak but tough whaler squad should have clued you in to the fact that my leaf woofing was tongue in cheek if playoff hockey is any more intense than the regular season variety then it is because the teams are facing each other at least consecutive times in days and hockey being the contact sport that it is some things will be carried over that might dissipate during the regular season but that is only for some of the players many of the rest who have been playing with injuries who miss their families or who like grant fuhr would really rather be playing golf don t really give a damn of course i can t say this for sure but i believe that this is fairly typical of human nature and i don t think that hockey players are above having what i consider typically human attitudes with the recent salary escalations the key players are actually losing money by participating in the playoffs the ones who regard the playoff take as some kind of a bonanza are fringe players who are unlikely to consistently be a force in the playoffs now i know some of you are going to come back with winning spirit and all of that crap but these players are professionals after all while they may love to play the game that love is entirely incidental to their purpose which is to make a decent living of course the coach is a professional as well and part of what he is being paid to do is motivate the players so if the coach does his job well enough the players may respond with a winning effort the second season is after all merely an exhibition the true champions of the league are the division winners the teams that come out on top after the long struggle of the season the stanley cup playoffs merely accord victory to the team that has remained healthy and hot the emphasis on the playoffs with their sudden death appeal has been promoted by the media and the owners with profit purely in mind even if pittsburgh loses the playoffs we all know that they were really the best team in the league over the year they proved it cordially as always rm roger maynard maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca
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re playoff predictions smithw col hp com walter smith writes ok i ll join in the fun and give my playoff predictions st round pitt vs nyi pitt in wash vs njd wash in bos vs buf bos in que vs mon mon in chi vs stl chi in det vs tor det in van vs win win in cal vs la cal in nd round pitt vs wash pitt in bos vs mon bos in chi vs det chi in win vs cal cal in rd round pitt vs bos pitt in chi vs cal chi in finals pitt vs chi pitt in walter not bad you only got wrong cal over chi in and cal over pit in or to take the sc s lawren sms business uwo ca stephen lawrence western business school london ontario
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re patrick playoffs look like this in article bson apr hal gnu ai mit edu bson gnu ai mit edu jan brittenson writes in article apr sei cmu edu gjp sei cmu edu george pandelios writes the pens won t be playing montreal because boston will win adams divisional play buffalo and quebec will make decent showings boston out of sheer determination will win a game against the pens but no more they have heart but the pens have too many big guns and too many ways to win if boston does indeed win the adams nothing is certain and indeed gets to play the pens then i think you ll find a very different boston team this year boston will use every trick in the book to shut down the pens offense something they didn t even try last year the pens weak spot is defense and goaltending if boston first i enjoyed reading your post second i disagree with the pen s weak spot being defense and goaltending for a couple of reasons barrasso has had a spectacular year no slow start consistently sharp gaa and leads the league in wins tommy deserves the vezina given the lack of respect he commands though i doubt he will win it the other reason concerns the pens team defense they are hovering around rd or th in the fewest goals allowed that is a big improvement for them and it indicates that they are playing better team defense can shut down the pens offense and get an early goal then you have a real game if the pens score first then it s practically over i don t think the pens have the discipline to stick to the team game if they re held scoreless minutes into the second boston doesn t have the guns of the pens but the pens doesn t have the defense goaltending and discipline of boston still boston can put the puck in the net remember that boston is not a run and gun patrick style team although they played run and gun hockey for the better part of the regular season who doesn t even neely backchecks all the way in behind his own net if necessary penalty killing will be a big factor boston are i believe over the last something short handed situations meaning they have scored shg while giving up ppg one in a lackluster game against ottawa i d say the series will go to or but i m much less certain whether it will be in favor of the pens or the b s their styles going into the playoffs are too different to make it predictable still i d place my bets on the pens i think my prediction is that if the b s can get the first goal in four of the games they ll take the series otherwise the pens will but i d rather wait and see whether the b s will actually get out of the adams to begin with buffalo quebec and montreal aren t exactly planning to call it a game and go home jan brittenson bson gnu ai mit edu we ll see it ll be fun george george j pandelios internet gjp sei cmu edu software engineering institute usenet sei gjp fifth avenue voice pittsburgh pa fax disclaimer these opinions are my own and do not reflect those of the software engineering institute its sponsors customers clients affiliates or carnegie mellon university in fact any resemblence of these opinions to any individual living or dead fictional or real is purely coincidental so there
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re playoff telecasts in atlanta in article q noa d hsdndev harvard edu nhmas gauss med harvard edu mark shneyder writes in article iflyr y wb a f a andrew cmu edu mamatha devineni ratnam mr andrew cmu edu writes does anyone know if all the patrick division games are going to be televised on espn and abc if some games are going to be left out or blanked out by dumb southern abc affiliates i was wondering if anyone out there knows of any sports bars in atlanta which are frequented by hockey fans i don t want to miss out on any of the pens games i am sure that there are some islander fans now that the rangers are dead who would want to watch every pens islanders game in atlanta circle tuesday april th on your tv calendar espn will carry game from pittsburgh s civic arena or as they are advetising it pittsburgh vs th place partick div finisher personally bruins buffalo or montreal quebec city is a much better matchup but espn is hoping for a spoiler in the pens series which it s not likely to get the way mario has been playing for the past month or so i d personally prefer buffalo boston as a birthday gift from espn but i don t think the folks at espn will accomodate that for me espn has this inexplicable affinity for the patrick division it seems valerie hammerl some days i have to remind him he s not hammerl acsu buffalo edu mario lemieux herb brooks on claude acscvjh ubms cc buffalo edu lemieux top scorer for the devils but v pwwpz ubvms cc buffalo edu known for taking dumb penalties
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re david polie s future in article hydra gatech edu gtd a prism gatech edu hrivnak writes in article gfmod e iv owc andrew cmu edu gp f andrew cmu edu gary james patalsky writes bad news for the patrick division next year caps gm david polie is reportedly trying to get a front office job with the nhl i can t believe polie has not been fired despite years of mediocrity yes yes the idiot s gone the idiot s gone i wish this happened before he traded hrivnak anyway the idiot s gone he s not gone yet the position opening is down to polie and the sabres gm gerry meehan i think i d like to see meehan gone valerie hammerl some days i have to remind him he s not hammerl acsu buffalo edu mario lemieux herb brooks on claude acscvjh ubms cc buffalo edu lemieux top scorer for the devils but v pwwpz ubvms cc buffalo edu known for taking dumb penalties
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re playoff predictions st round pitt vs nyi pitt in it looks like a safe bet nyi has been bagging it of late nyi and njd have a showdown friday night for the honour of pittsburg anyway pigsburg in wash vs njd wash in i think that njd have a solid team and will compete with wash i agree though with wash in bos vs buf bos in the b s have been playing awesome hockey in the last two weeks the only question is how long will it last fuhr is a dud bos in que vs mon mon in it seems to me that mon is much like the van no chemistry the habs seem to be not in stride que in chi vs stl chi in stl should not be in the playoffs chi in det vs tor det in i am a diehard leaf fan but it seems that the leafs offense is shutting down in the last week can they turn it around against detroit as i recall the last couple of time these two teams met the leafs were pummelled i don t know if bobbie is allowed in canada yet if he is det in if not det in van vs win win in upset in the making here another team with bad chemistry there is something gone foul among linden momesso and bure win in cal vs la cal in anybody that says that la could possibly beet cal does not watch the smythe a whole lot la is a bunch of geritols cal in nd round pitt vs wash pitt in it seems to me that pigsburg has some egos on their team their saving grace though is bowman he can put anybody in their place however if pigs have a quick first round they may be a little too high wash could be there for a surprise having said that i will say pitt in bos vs mon bos in mon will not be there bos is surprising me of late cam is great the couple of wins against que last week have sold me with the b s b s in chi vs det chi in yikes this will not be pretty but det is running like a machine of late they ve had a non busy end of the season in which they played like killers det in win vs cal cal in cal has a solid team a little weak in the nets cal will out muscle win cal in rd round pitt vs bos pitt in i hate pitt my logic eludes me the dark side will take over and give bos the extra push it needs to dump pitt there may be something to this if you think of the rivalry bos in chi vs cal chi in finals pitt vs chi pitt in no no no we have bos vs det i don t know what to say here both teams will be flying and overdue i will go with goaltending and muscle and say det in jake
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re plus minus stat in article ramsey cs laurentian ca maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca roger maynard writes in apr sol uvic ca gballent vancouver uvic ca greg ballentine writes you have completely missed the point with the selke trophy it goes to the best defensive forward this is the forward who forgoes points to help his team out defensively it is an unsung hero of sorts yes lemieux and gilmour are good defensive players but they play a more offensively oriented style than a true defensive forward this year you mean guys that check but can t score the guys who can both check and score shouldn t be candidates is that right the selke candidate forwards main purpose on a shift is to prevent goals from being scored not to score them when lemieux or gilmour play their number one purpose is to score defence is secondary especially considering the line that plays against them is probably a defensive one that is why they are not selke candidates when tarasov called bob gainey the best player in the world it was assumed that he meaned the best technical player the one who knew every intricacy about playing hockey and never made a technical error and who was it that made this assumption all of your friends maybe sorry greg but people aren t enough you can assume all that you want to but if you think tarasov was serious then you are an idiot someone posted something about this assumption being lost in translation it was a few months ago whoever this was please repost it i agree with this assessment bob gainey may have been the best technical player ever right greg did you see this in the sun or something what did you think of claude provost gainey was nothing more than a journeyman player who s outstanding abilities were entirely political he might have had a col lection of defensive skills but he had absolutely no offensive skills at all none but perhaps you think that the abilities to pass the puck shoot the puck and deke a goalie or defenseman are not technical skills gainey is the best defensive forward ever i stand by that assessment he was a very good player who belongs in the hall of fame did you ever watch him play he never made a technical error babbling deleted gee greg the pundits were calling gilmour the best two way player in the league way back when he was with st louis i would have expected you to have picked up on that who are these pundits gilmour was good with st louis but he was not the best two way player in the game when he was with them you have overhyped gilmour on this net for months he is a very good forward but hardly the best in the nhl gregmeister
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re plus minus stat in article tnclus tele nokia fi hahietanen tnclus tele nokia fi writes in article apr sol uvic ca gballent vancouver uvic ca greg ballentine writes is a good stat because it is the only stat that i am aware of that takes into account defensive play it isn t a measure of defensive play it takes into account offense and defence all aspects of play if we are interested of real all round players the power play stats should be considered too because the power play is also one aspect of play there is still something to be done with these player evaluation tools imo any good player should score on power plays because of the man advantage very good power play scorers tend to become overrated because their point totals are inflated by power play points tends to expose these overrated players such as brett hull john cullen and dave andreychuck given the opportunity to play power play consistently any player can inflate his totals gregmeister
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re plus minus stat in article mala bc ca apland mala bc ca ron apland writes in article apr sol uvic ca gballent vancouver uvic ca greg ballentine writes to adjust first calculate a teams goals scored pp goals scored goals allowed pp goals allowed when they were penalty killing divide this number by to take into account of the fact that there are players on the ice and each is responsible for the team a players adjusted is his raw team adjustment btw if anyone could calculate and post adjusted ratings it would be greatly appreciated i might find the time to do so but don t count on it i have a database filter set up for the player stats when it is posted for the end of season i ll repost the team averages you don t need to go through the complicated team adjustment you are using all you need is the team average by summing all the individual players and divide by the total number of players on the team this will be a little distorted because the players who have been traded recently will have come with scores based on their original teams this shouldn t distort it too bad though if you want to look at individual players from this perspective then go ahead you ll require the original player stats though question if a team uses players in a season do you merely divide the total by if so a player who plays in only game is considered equally valuable as a player who plays in all of them another way of looking at the same thing is to compare the deviation from the mean for the team of the player to the standard deviation for the team i ll post both since the standard deviation for each team is different i am unsure how transferable between teams that these stats are shouldn t the average standard deviation in the league be used i am interested in seeing each method but i still think that mine is the best if for no other reason than familiarity gregmeister
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minnesota recalls mcgowan help derian hatcher s game misconduct penalty was rescinded by the nhl allowing the minnesota defenseman to play in the north stars last two regular season games hatcher was given the penalty during a fight at the end of a loss at st louis on sunday april but the league didn t rescind the game misconduct penalty shane churla received the stars recalled center cal mcgowan from their top minor league club in kalamazoo mich to replace churla the above is courtesy of the washington times on line service now here s where i need help if anyone out there has a tape of tuesday s chicago minnesota game please contact me terms will be favorable also if anyone can tape tonight s minnesota detroit game please contact me this could be quite important once again i will make it worth your trouble thanks to all rec sport hockey contact for minnesota north stars and maintainer of the r s h faq file mitch mcgowan a k a kalamazoo wings minnesota north stars hamlet u washington edu st kilda saints toronto blue jays
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re helsinki stockholm nhl expansion mlindroos finabo abo fi marcus lindroos inf writes not too low perhaps but surely not as high as that of an european nhl division the finnish team for example would contain all players currently on the national team plus a top class foreigner or two they would be in an entirely different league than tps or jokerit both of whom have perhaps a dozen players of international class if even that why settle for a minor league when you could have the best it is no matter what you call the teams jokerit and tps or helsinki tornado and turku typhoon the best palyers in finland would eventually end up in those teams anyway if they were in the big league i d rather spend marks to watch the helsinki tornado play montreal the ny rangers or los angeles than marks for the privilege to see jokerit vs jypht or even djurgardens if there s nothing like the nhl period unrealistic for now maybe we should first just expand finnish league to allow teams from baltic countries to entry then others will get interested in the idea that maybe one should settle something bigger the ultimate goal as you want it would be european division in nhl btw does that make a final with an europan team against norht american
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re playoff predictions everybody please send me your predictions for the stanley cup playoffs i want to see who people think will win please send them in this format or something comparable winner of buffalo boston winner of montreal quebec winner of pittsburgh new york winner of new jersey washington winner of chicago minnesota st louis winner of toronto detroit winner of vancouver winnipeg winner of calgary los angeles winner of adams division above winner of patrick division above winner of norris division above winner of smythe division above winner of wales conference above winner of campbell conference above winner of stanley cup above i will summarize the predictions and see who is the biggest internet guru predicting guy gal send entries to richard madison rrmadiso napier uwaterloo ca ps i will send my entries to one of you folks so you know when i say i won that i won
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re the hawks will return to the finals the hawks won the norris div and sealed their fate it s bad luck to win the norris the hawks will sweep the blues in their dreams but will lose in in reality i predict that in the game with the blues belfour will go down on his knees time s and will spend the rest of the time looking behind him self butcher will pound roenick and the warthawks have no one tough enough to prevent it bye bye wart hawks
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my predictions smythe division vancouver vs winnipeg jets in the jets have played the canucks tough the last three games everyone is healthy for the jets i m biased calgary vs los angeles flames in from what i have seen the kings have looked flat lately i just can t see them getting by the flames final jets in the jets haven t lost to the flames in they will but it will be a close series that will come down to how well roberts has recovered i don t think he ll be and while it will help it won t be enough norris division chicago vs st louis minnesota chicago in against the blues against the stars detroit vs toronto wings in the wings should be able to shutdown gilmour and andreychuk chelvadae is more experienced than potvin final hawks in brutal series probert and chelios will go at it belfour is better than chelvadae imho conference final hawks in it hurts but the hawks are more experienced and that will carry them through to the final prince of wales conference adams division boston vs buffalo bruins in b s can check juneau is darn good and neely the sabres rely too much on lafontaine and mogilny quebec vs montreal montreal in classic battle the inexperience will hurt the nords this year final bruins in habs will be hurting from their series with the nords and boston has been able to control the scorers on the habs patrick division pittsburgh vs islanders devils pens in one word mario washington vs devils islanders caps in devils in i think the caps can beat the isles but not the devils tabaracci has been strong in goal and if he plays like last year he could carry the team it doesn t matter though final pens in two more words stevens jagr cup final pens in three last words tocchet murphy barrasso the only thing i don t like about this is that the pens woofers are going to be out in full force again i don t mean the regular penguin fans it s just like the bunch around here that if these predictions are true will post like nuts while the jets are winning but we won t hear from again when they lose oh yeah next year s cup prediction jets in over the nords daryl turner r s h contact for the winnipeg jets internet umturne ccu umanitoba ca fidonet or please route through tkachuk over to zhamnov up to sel nne he shoots he scores the jets win the cup the jets win the cup essensa for vezina housley for norris sel nne for calder
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re plus minus stat in apr sol uvic ca gballent hudson uvic ca greg ballentine writes the selke candidate forwards main purpose on a shift is to prevent goals from being scored not to score them when lemieux or gilmour play their number one purpose is to score defence is secondary especially considering the line that plays against them is probably a defensive one that is why they are not selke candidates gainey is the best defensive forward ever i stand by that assessment he was a very good player who belongs in the hall of fame did you ever watch him play he never made a technical error i watched him over his entire career i have never seen a player and that includes russell courtnall and davie keon screw up as many breakaways as bob gainey and i will never forget the time denis potvin caught gainey with his head down you have been sold a bill of goods on bob gainey gainey was a plugger and when the press runs out of things to say about the stars on dynasties they start to hype the pluggers grant fuhr essa tikkannen butch goring bob nystrom bob gainey doug jarvis derek sanderson wayne cashman bob baun bob pulford ralph backstrom henri richard dick duff and so on cordially as always rm roger maynard maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca
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wfan steve chief on hours greetings steve summers and the chief were on hours last night shmoozing sports i unfortunately missed it those of you who saw it can you please provide a synopsis thanx the czar of mainframe computing jbe musicb mcgill ca mcgill university i m too sexy for cobol habs it doesn t look good let s go expos peter peter pumkin eater knew a chick but couldn t meet her saw her brother one fine day sucked his cock now he s gay andrew dice clay disclaimer needless to say that the opinions expressed by the czar represent those of the faculty staff and students of mcgill university
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pens box score pens nj devils first period scoring pittsburgh daniels needham tippett nj devils c lemieux semak driver pittsburgh stevens tocchet murphy ppg nj devils zelepukin driver niedermayer penalties pgh stevens roughing njd pellerin double minor cross checking njd zelepukin tripping njd stasny holding pgh taglianetti roughing njd lemieux roughing pgh jagr tripping second period scoring pittsburgh lemieux murphy tocchet nj devils semak lemieux zelepukin pittsburgh mceachern jagr barrasso njd stevens guerin pellerin pittsburgh lemieux unassisted shg nj devils richer nicholls nj devils lemieux zelepukin penalties pgh stevens roughing njd mckay roughing pgh mullen hooking pgh tocchet roughing njd stevens slashing njd lemieux unsportsmanlike conduct pgh u samuelsson cross checking pgh barrasso double minor spearing served by mceachern njd holik cross checking njd lemieux roughing third period scoring pittsburgh mullen jagr lemieux penalties njd daneyko interference pgh stevens roughing njd holik roughing pgh match penalty game misconduct njd zelepukin tripping pgh stevens roughing njd daneyko roughing overtime scoring no scoring penalties no penalties shots on goal pittsburgh nj devils goalies barrasso shots saves billington shots saves ref devorski linesmen gauthier vines lori contact for the penguins lli cs cmu edu
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re giveaways in article qi l kqr access digex net steveg cadkey com steve gallichio wrote john p curcio jpc philabs philips com responded to my drivel steveg cadkey com steve gallichio writes i still am surprised that no one has tried giving away the goodies at the end of the game the two problems with that of course are that you would want to make sure the first people in the building would be assured of getting them probably redeemable vouchers and that the building managers want to avoid at all costs delaying people as they leave the building if for instance the goodies are given to people as they exit i went to the new jersey devils carvel ice cream puck night tm last year to see the beloved bruins play the pucks were given out at the end of the game i could just imagine what would have happened late in the third if the bruins were winning it figures after i posted the first article i found out that the whalers are going to be using coupons for the the giveaway on friday night i believe that is is the some big corporation probably a bank flying disk night i think that we could all see the potential for danger here all in all i have seen a whole bunch of giveaways land on the ice and it never ceases to amuse me i m just thankful for the players that no one has yet to sponsor lead pipe night at any arenas that s probably because they couldn t find anyone to sponser it maybe uss could sponser the pittsburgh penguins us steel steel rod night close enough naah it d probably bounce off of jay caufield sg i was at a cincinnati cyclones game a year ago when the local country station sponsored a kazoo giveaway after a particularly bad call by the underexperienced echl ref it was kazoostorm time down on the ice i thought this was a pathetic display by the fans but they were rightfully unhappy jason
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re canucks clinch bure to score playoff goals in a previous article steveg cadkey com steve gallichio says ron apland apland mala bc ca writes quinn will resign as head coach this is no secret and hopefully they will bring in someone who looks at the game spatially and institutes some team disciplined play how about keenan give him what he wants gm and coach and have quinn upstairs as president i was under the impression that rick ley was in line for the canucks job should quinn step off the bench ley coached in the canucks organization bring back harry neale at least he was witty ad freenet carleton ca rachel holme
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re hockey and the hispanic community rickc wrigley corp sgi com richard casares writes in article bu edu icop csa bu edu antonio pera writes the presence of the new team in miami i can t say south florida it s too long makes me think of an interesting question can you sell the hispanic community on hockey miami is hispanic this community has no experience and no previous exposure to hockey that i know of the teams in ny and la which also have big hispanic groups do not seem to try to woo this group what will miami do could they get spanish language tv and radio coverage you ll have a hard time selling any sport to a community that can t play it on account of availability or financial reasons hockey is pretty much a sport for the white and well off well suffice to say that it is a sport for those able to make the substantial investment in equipment etc but here s something do you think that the availability of in line skates and road hockey could contribute to a rise in awareness of ice hockey i would argue this is having an effect here kids play ice hockey in the winter and road hockey in the summer with in line skates
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re suhonen will not go to jokerit in tvartiai vipunen hut fi tvartiai vipunen hut fi tommi vartiainen writes according to the inside information alpo suhonen won t be the next headcoach of jokerit it s pretty sure that boris majorov will continue although owner of the team previously said that he will chance the coach tommi wrong information they just announced that suhonen has made a deal with jokerit tommi
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re mogilny must be benched in article wong sfu ca wong fraser sfu ca sam s wong writes about or weeks ago i read in the toronto sun a quote from alex it went something like sarcastically yep patty s the man he s responsible for the team s success i m a nobody around here how can you assume it was a sarcastic remark for someone whose first language is not english i would interpret that comment to mean that he believes pat is the mvp on the team and that he is just one of the other normal players quite modest i might say well i don t recall assuming anything except perhaps that the columnist who reported the incident was telling the truth i e the sarcastic impression came from him steve simmons besides to my knowledge alex has a pretty fair grasp of the english language and his recent comment after the detroit game would indicate that this remark is what i think it to be very low dchhabra stpl ists ca
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re plus minus stat in article ramsey cs laurentian ca maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca roger maynard writes in apr sol uvic ca gballent hudson uvic ca greg ballentine writes gainey is the best defensive forward ever i stand by that assessment he was a very good player who belongs in the hall of fame did you ever watch him play he never made a technical error i watched him over his entire career i have never seen a player and that includes russell courtnall and davie keon screw up as many breakaways as bob gainey and i will never forget the time denis potvin caught gainey with his head down you have been sold a bill of goods on bob gainey gainey was a plugger and when the press runs out of things to say about the stars on dynasties they start to hype the pluggers grant fuhr essa tikkannen butch goring bob nystrom bob gainey doug jarvis derek sanderson wayne cashman bob baun bob pulford ralph backstrom henri richard dick duff and so on these players all are pretty good players they are the depth that the dynasties had to win stanley cups they tend to be the very good second line guys who would be first liners on most weaker clubs in the nhl they were all important to their clubs probably several of these stanley cup winning teams would not have won the cups they did if it were not for the depth provided by these players they compare to rick tocchet and ron francis of the penguins very good players who can lead lesser teams francis hartford tocchet philly who provide the depth to the team that is currently best in the nhl as a defensive forward there have been none better than bob gainey that doesn t mean he was the best player or even the best forward the canadians had at that time but he was excellent at what he did gainey could dominate games with his defence he didn t need to get goals to dominate he shut down the opposition and was thus valuable there has never been anyone any better at doing this not ever gregmeister
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re washington to beat pitt in article kkq acsu buffalo edu v r w ubvmsd cc buffalo edu ralph l d ambrosio writes in article apr mprgate mpr ca tasallot galaxy mpr ca mathew tasalloti writes if the penguins get out of the patrick they will win the cup however their hardest task is to get out of that division i m sure that washington will most definitly throw a rench into the penguin plans i m a canucks fan not that i think much of their chances this year but it seems to me like washington is the only team that can stop the penguins from winning their next stanley cup i was under the impression that the penguins has had the caps number for most of the season mathew tasalloti mpr teltech ltd vancouver bc canada of course no one asked me i always interject my opinions on matters i have no concern over go islanders playoffs here we come go jets for and last year the capitals had the pens number up until about game of the playoffs john horstmann
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hockey on tv in the bay area not hi all i don t get the sport s channel and i m desparate for some playoff action especially the cannucks does anyone know of a sports bar on the bay peninsula that will be showing hockey games i m looking for something between redwood city and mountain view thanks a lot greg
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goalie mask poll here is an update on the goalie mask poll first since so many people gave me their best i decided to give pts for their favorite pts for nd for rd if you e mailed a response with only one i gave it pts please feel free to send me your other favorites if you only sent one before also votes are still welcome any mask you like will do as i have received votes for players not in the nhl please mention what team they play for though so here are the up to date results so far player team pts votes ed belfour chicago andy moog boston curtis joseph st louis brian hayward san jose grant fuhr buffalo ron hextall quebec clint malarchuk buffalo manon rheaume atlanta ihl john casey minnesota rick wamsley toronto retired thanks to all that voted and keep em coming go skins now for the next question does emotional music have quite go braves an effect on you mike patton faith no more go hornets go capitals mike friedman hrivnak fan internet gtd a prism gatech edu
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re washington to beat pitt in article c j c ged taurus cs nps navy mil galvint cs nps navy mil thomas galvin writes in article rap psuvm psu edu robbie po rap psuvm psu edu writes in article apr mprgate mpr ca tasallot galaxy mpr ca mathew tasalloti says chances this year but it seems to me like washington is the only team that can stop the penguins from winning their next stanley cup really i think both the islanders and devils would have a better chance at the penguins than the capitals imo really what makes you think the islanders have a better shot they couldn t even beat the whalers in two games yes but as has been mentioned many times before the islanders play at the talent level of their opponent since hartford is pitiful the islanders played pitiful since pittsburgh is great the isles will most likely play great this is most likely due to inexperience and very poor shooting to greg yes i have noticed that the islanders couldn t hit the broad side of a barn with the puck if they were two feet in front of it does anyone have shooting percentages i don t know if that would help since they often miss the net completely but it might shed some light on the subject and my playoff pool is running exact rules to be posted tomorrow but don t hesitate to send in picks keith keller let s go rangers let s go quakers kkeller mail sas upenn edu ivy league champs when i want your opinion i ll give it to you
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re goalie masks my vote goes to john vanbiesbrouck his mask has a skyline of new york city and on the sides there are a bunch of bees beezer it looks really sharp keith keller let s go rangers let s go quakers kkeller mail sas upenn edu ivy league champs when i want your opinion i ll give it to you
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re espn tonight swartzjh rosevc rose hulman edu writes has anyone heard what game espn is showing tonight they said they will show whatever game means the most playoff wise i would assume this would be the blues tampa game or the minnesota red wings game anyone heard for sure jeff swartz it s going to be the stars wings game
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who picks first according to the fan here in t o ottawa has won the daigle e sweepstakes they didn t mention why but san jose had more goals than the sen sens so i have a hunch this is why ottawa would pick first susan
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re stop predicting in article apr ncsu edu cdkaupan eos ncsu edu carl david kaupang writes it is really annoying to see all of these predictions on the net who really cares who you think will win please stop with the predictions we all know the caps are going to win the cup so let it go at that in the words of doktor kultur in the ottawa citizen remember to unhook the nitrous oxide before you leave the dentist chair go jets for once in the playoffs please i beg of you paul badertscher uwovax uwo ca
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re stan fischler keenan stuff in article apr news columbia edu gld cunixb cc columbia edu gary l dare writes the oilers will charge to eat in the press room next year there was an article in one of the toronto papers about this a few months ago probably the globe and mail any ethical journalist even a sports journalist should not accept free meals from a team in any case which was the one of the points the article was making admittdly most sports reporting is mostly with any ethical standards gerald
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re plus minus stat in article apr alchemy chem utoronto ca golchowy alchemy chem utoronto ca gerald olchowy writes it is meaningless to compare one player s plus minus statistic with another players out of the context of the role and the playing time of the players involved it s just as meaningless to compare goals assists pim and any other stat i can think of each player is asked to take a unique role for his team the contexts will never be the same from one player to another playing on the same team or different teams and yet awards are given and promotions received based in part on these meaningless stats the operative words are in part stats must be interpreted tempered with other information one has about the player to compare jagr s and francis s plus minus is ridiculous and absurd and comparing jagr s and francis s points is just as ridiculous and absurd but not more ridiculous and absurd as comparing goals assists points for selanne lindros juneau potvin and the other rookies in the league and yet how about looking at them for what they are and enjoy the game ron
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this year s vs next year s playoffs well since someone probably wanted to know here s this year s playoff matchups on the left and what the matchups would be next year under the new alignment and playoff matchup rules the same teams make the playoffs under next year s rules and three of the first round matchups are the same que mtl chi stl van win pit chi pit chi nj stl buf stl was det que tor nyi tor mtl cal bos van was van buf win nj win que cal bos det mtl la nyi la jim murawski sr software engineer office administrative computing and fax information services jjm andrew cmu edu carnegie mellon university office ucc forbes avenue pittsburgh pa le mieux le magnifique soixante six claude non there are days until clinton clinocchio leaves office too many
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flyers notes the flyers closed out the season last night with their th straight victory a ot winner over the hartford whalers the ot game winner came from dimitri yushkevich just his th of the season and his first game winner the flyers never led up until that point in the game for the whalers the loss marked an nhl record th ot loss this season roster move gord hynes was called to to play in place of ryan mcgill injuries ryan mcgill injured his hand in a fight and was scratched lines eklund lindros recchi beranek brind amour dineen lomakin butsayev conroy faust acton brown galley bowen yushkevich hawgood carkner hynes dominic roussel game summary i didn t get tv coverage of the game and since it was stormy in these parts i didn t have the best radio coverage either here s the box score followed by a few things i did pick up first period hartford nylander philadelphia recchi lindros brind amour pp penalties verbeek har holding carkner phi roughing houda har interference second period hartford burt cunneyworth kron philadelphia bowen eklund recchi hartford nylander zalapski sanderson penalties galley phi major game misconduct spearing verbeek har major game misconduct spearing brown phi tripping zalapski har tripping brind amour phi slashing third period hartford kron sanderson cassels pp philadelphia beranek lomakin yushkevich philadelphia faust brind amour roussel penalties houda har tripping hawgood phi holding overtime philadelphia yushkevich faust penalties none power play philadelphia of hartford of goalies philadelphia roussel shots saves hartford lenarduzzi on the first hartford goal gord hynes misplayed the puck at the flyers blue line and nylander stripped him and took off the recchi goal was a on with lindros the bowen goal was just a puck he threw at the net got a good carom and it ended up behind the goalie on the second nylander goal he got three whacks at the puck before it went in this is the most frustrating part of the flyers defense take the body and if they get one shot and beat you fine don t give them another chance carkner galley and mcgill are all terrible about this i ll bet money at least one of them was the closest flyer to the play that s all i have my radio got bad after that and i was lucky to know who it was that scored much less how from what i heard roussel had a very strong game after the game gene hart asked bobby taylor to pick the three stars of the season rather than of the game it was garry galley for his career high point total i m surprised that a former goalie wouldn t look closer at his defensive play tommy soderstrom for his team record tying shutouts in only about a season and mark recchi for his all time high team single season scoring mark but here s the odd part he couldn t decide between lindros and recchi for number if he picks recchi as after he had a hard time choosing between him and lindros doesn t that make lindros what you wanna know my three stars of the season well since you asked eric lindros eric dominates a game simply by stepping out onto the ice the difference between the team s record with him and without him is no accident i believe that the team could have been almost as successful without recchi there is no question that this team is significantly better with eric lindros on it and i think that he will deservedly wear the c on his jersey next season tommy soderstrom shutouts was second in the league to only ed belfour and tommy didn t have a chris chelios booo in front of him he also didn t play a complete season due to heart problems sentimental edge here my family has a history of heart problems there s no question in my mind that tommy soderstrom is this teams goalie of the future and if roussel complains again about being number look for him to be traded within years mark recchi again you can t argue with an all time team high single season scoring mark there are an awful lot of teams that didn t have a single player get as many points plus mark is the only flyer to play the entire season not a tough choice honorable mentions rod brind amour topped his single season high point total which he set last year the difference was that he wasn t on the top line this year and didn t get as much playing time then again he didn t get the defensive attention that he got last year from the other team either dimtri yushkevich was the teams most consistent defenseman yes he made rookie mistakes but he was usually fast enough to make up for them i have a feeling that with his shot he ll score a few more points next year without giving up anything in his own zone and i suspect that he ll be the teams top defenseman in years to come garry galley was the team s point leader from defensemen again there are some things you just can t argue with and he battled with chronic fatigue syndrome he certainly deserves kudos for only missing one game and that was against his wishes under doctors orders but his defensive play often negates his offensive contribution a little more caution and a little bit smarter in his own end will make him a much more important part of the team next year brent fedyk was the leagues biggest improvement over last years point total but consistency became a problem for him a couple misc notes mostly for mailing list members tom misnik a member of the mailing list would like to exchange e mail addresses with any list members who want to keep in touch over the summer if you re interested you can send him mail at att acr org tmisnik the flyers end the season game below in th place their best winning percentage since going in within the division th in patrick at home they finished th overall will draft th in next years entry draft quebec had the st rounder though they scored as many goals as they allowed the straight wins is the most since they won in a row in i will be sending out final stats as soon as i get the issue of the hockey news that contains them since there are no more games for me to go to i have no other way of getting them i hope you ve all enjoyed this years hockey season as much as i have knowing the future that we have coming to us made missing the playoffs one more time almost bearable flyers team record watch eric lindros goals assists points rookie records club record goals club record points eric lindros dave poulin brian propp brian propp ron flockhart eric lindros dave poulin ron flockhart bill barber pelle eklund mark recchi goals assists points club record goals club record points reggie leach mark recchi tim kerr bobby clarke tim kerr bobby clarke mark recchi bill barber rick macliesh bobby clarke bill barber rick macliesh reggie leach more than games flyers career years player points best prior season mark recchi penguins rod brind amour flyers garry galley kings brent fedyk red wings that s all for now pete clark jr rsh flyers contact and mailing list owner
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my predictions of a classic playoff year here is yet another prediction for them great playoffs you may laugh at your convenience adams division i hate the ne name divisoin bos vs buf bos in the b s are hot lately mon vs que mon in this will be the series to watch in the first round bos vs mon mon in this may be a bit biased but i feel the canadiens will smarten up and start playing they played two months ago i e bench savard patrick division pit vs njd pit in it wont be a complete cake walk there be a few lumps in the cake batter was vs nyi was in this will not be an exciting series imo pitt vs was pit in washington will be tired after the nyi norris division chi vs stl chi in stl will get a lucky game in tor vs det tor in this like mon vs que will be another intense series to watch chi vs tor tor in potvin will be settling in nicely by this point smythe division van vs win van in teemu is great but vancouver better as a team cal vs lak cal in gretzky is great but calgary has been on fire lately sorry for the pun um no i am not van vs cal van in this will be a great series but van has proven they will not lie down and get beat wales conference finals pittsburgh vs montreal montreal in montreal imho is the only team that has a chance against pittsburgh campbell conference finals vancouver vs toronto toronto in potvin will be series mvp stanley cup finals toronto maple leafs vs montreal canadiens the classic stanley cup final matchup also a dream come true montreal wins the stanley cup in the th game in double overtime roy and potvin are spectacular throughout the series and share series mvp if that is possible vincent damphouse nets game winner from a brilliant pass by brian bellows canadiens star denis savard watched his buddies play from the owners box nursing that splinter on his thumb which has left him on the disabled list since the first game of the playoffs awww shucks yee haa poof and i wake up well that is my predictions i hope and dream they come true and you can stop laughing anytime paul die hard habs fan living with die hard leafs fans
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ahl playoff results ahl calder cup playoff game s played on providence springfield ot baltimore binghamton utica rochester ot cape breton fredericton game s scheduled for capital district at adirondack providence at springfield baltimore at binghamton utica at rochester moncton vs st john s at halifax series stati plural of status adirondack leads cdi springfield leads providence baltimore leads binghamton utica leads rochester st john s leads moncton cape breton tied w fredericton full calder cup playoff schedule and results home team in caps if necesary first round springfield indians vs providence bruins gm springfield providence gm springfield providence gm providence springfield gm providence at springfield gm springfield at providence gm providence at springfield gm springfield at providence cd islanders vs adirondack red wings gm adirondack cdi gm cdi at adirondack gm adirondack at cdi gm adirondack at cdi gm cdi at adirondack gm adirondack at cdi gm cdi at adirondack baltimore skipjacks at binghamton rangers gm baltimore binghamton gm baltimore at binghamton gm binghamton at baltimore gm binghamton at baltimore gm baltimore at binghamton gm binghmaton at baltimore gm baltimore at binghamton utica devils vs rochester americans gm utica rochester ot gm utica at rochester gm rochester at utica gm rochester at utica gm utica at rochester gm rochester at utica gm utica at rochester moncton hawks vs st john s maple leafs gm st john s moncton gm moncton vs st john s at halifax gm st john s at moncton gm st john s at moncton gm moncton vs st john s at halifax gm st john s at moncton gm moncton vs st john s at halifax cape breton oilers vs fredericton canadiens gm fredericton cape breton ot gm cape breton fredericton gm fredericton at cape breton gm fredericton at cape breton gm cape breton at fredericton gm fredericton at cape breton gm cape breton at fredericton bri farenell farenebt craft camp clarkson edu ahl and ecac contact for rec sport hockey go usa hockey adirondack red wings calder cup champs clarkson hockey ecac tournament champs glens falls high hockey ny division ii state champs ahl fans join the ahl mailing list ahl news request andrew cmu edu congrats to the boston bruins adams division champions phoenix suns pacific division champions
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re this year s vs next year s playoffs let s fill in some winners here well since someone probably wanted to know here s this year s playoff matchups on the left and what the matchups would be next year under the new alignment and playoff matchup rules the same teams make the playoffs under next year s rules and three of the first round matchups are the same que mtl chi stl van win pit chi pit chi pit chi nj stl buf stl nyi det was det que tor nyi det nyi bos tor mtl cal bos det van was van bos van buf win nj win bos van que cal bos det que cal mtl la nyi la just my thoughts chris downec rpi edu
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re my predictions of a classic playoff year in article apr ac dal ca paul ac dal ca writes here is yet another prediction for them great playoffs you may laugh at your convenience adams division i hate the ne name divisoin bos vs buf bos in the b s are hot lately mon vs que mon in this will be the series to watch in the first round bos vs mon mon in this may be a bit biased but i feel the canadiens will smarten up and start playing they played two months ago i e bench savard patrick division pit vs njd pit in it wont be a complete cake walk there be a few lumps in the cake batter was vs nyi was in this will not be an exciting series imo pitt vs was pit in washington will be tired after the nyi norris division chi vs stl chi in stl will get a lucky game in tor vs det tor in this like mon vs que will be another intense series to watch chi vs tor tor in potvin will be settling in nicely by this point smythe division van vs win van in teemu is great but vancouver better as a team cal vs lak cal in gretzky is great but calgary has been on fire lately sorry for the pun um no i am not van vs cal van in this will be a great series but van has proven they will not lie down and get beat wales conference finals pittsburgh vs montreal montreal in montreal imho is the only team that has a chance against pittsburgh campbell conference finals vancouver vs toronto toronto in potvin will be series mvp stanley cup finals toronto maple leafs vs montreal canadiens the classic stanley cup final matchup also a dream come true montreal wins the stanley cup in the th game in double overtime roy and potvin are spectacular throughout the series and share series mvp if that is possible vincent damphouse nets game winner from a brilliant pass by brian bellows canadiens star denis savard watched his buddies play from the owners box nursing that splinter on his thumb which has left him on the disabled list since the first game of the playoffs awww shucks yee haa poof and i wake up well that is my predictions i hope and dream they come true and you can stop laughing anytime paul die hard habs fan living with die hard leafs fans i only have one comment on this you call this a classic playoff year and yet you don t include a chicago detroit series c mon i m a boston fan and i even realize that chicago detroit games are the most exciting games to watch chris downec rpi edu
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re who picks first ottawa picks first because they had fewer wins during the season the first tiebreaker keith keller let s go rangers let s go quakers kkeller mail sas upenn edu ivy league champs when i want your opinion i ll give it to you
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re nhl team in milwaukee newsgroups rec sport hockey subject re nhl team in milwaukee summary expires sender distribution organization marquette university department mscs keywords in article apr walter cray com cbetz radioman cray com charles betz x cf eng writes bradley center in milwaukee is home to the milwaukee admirals minor leauge hockey team the owner of the admirals sorry i can t remember his name either owns or at least shelled out the majority of the funds to build the bradley center lloyd pettit married into allen bradley corp ab com family and owns the admirals he donated the bradley center and the new pettit national ice center supposedly he was approached by the nhl about an expansion franchise but turned it down because he thought the franchise fee of million was too high this is not the way i have heard it see lloyd as he is affectionately referred to by milwaukeeans and bob uecker bought the bradley center to get the nhl to come here like i said i don t know whether this story is true or just a rumor but if it s true don t look for an nhl team in milwaukee anytime soon the admirals aren t going to be forced out of the building and you won t see an nhl club and a minor league club in the same building especially since the nba s milwaukee bucks play there as well yeah the bucks the milwaukee wave soccer the admirals the marquette warriors concerts and a bunch of other things jason hanson w wisconsin ave marquette university milwaukee wi ham radio n lea ae jason studsys mscs mu edu n lea n ary nocal ca usa na
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re finland sweden vs nhl teams was helsinki stockholm nh you mention could cut it as stars in the nhl even rexi in his prime was more of a good regular in new york edmonton than a superstar in his own right although some blamed that on lack of effort on his behalf i think that the ny management made a mistake and remember how edmonton called reksa in the middle of the season to win the cup why did they call him yeah we ve had a tendency to beat ourselves in the past i almost knifed my brother in anger when sweden scored two in the final minute of the wc semifinals back in or what about the three goals antero kivela let in with five minutes to go against the russkies in lake placid ugh o k that was bad luck if penguins have the same kind of luck this year in the playoffs they ll never win the cup they are still the best team howl howl gargle howl gargle howl howl howl gargle howl gargle howl howl gargle gargle howl gargle gargle gargle howl slurrp uuuurgh prostetnic vogon jeltz marko poutiainen mep phoenix oulu fi
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playoff pool well i looked at the scoring plan i had and have decided to modify it here is the new finalized scoring pick st round winner way off on games pick within one game pick exact games pick nd round winner way off on games pick within one game pick exact games pick conference champ way off on games pick within one game pick exact games pick stanley cup winner way off on games pick within one game pick exact games pick loser in series goes pick loser in game decided in ot these are now final anyone needing a copy of the entry sheet email me at the address below keith keller let s go rangers let s go quakers kkeller mail sas upenn edu ivy league champs when i want your opinion i ll give it to you
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re nhlpa poll partial stats results in article ofnmao iv a kyd andrew cmu edu young soo che yc andrew cmu edu writes all these people who send in their polls should take a closer look at njd they are a very deep team with two very capable goalies and excellent forwards and defensemen shooter in richer an all around do it all in todd chef stasny master of a thousand dishes power play captain stevens take a look at the numbers or play with them and see for yourselves yup i agree with ya i think devils can beat red wings easily so i think all those who send in their votes should try all these diffrent teams before voting i think islanders and quebec are much better then i had expected cobra sex is not the answer sex is the question yes is the answer e mail cobra chopin udel edu
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re finland sweden vs nhl teams was helsinki stockholm nh in article apr abo fi mlindroos finabo abo fi marcus lindroos inf writes jutila was a failure i think while makela and ari haanpaa had an on again off again career with the islanders both players had to play in the minors of course i like our players i just don t think the names you mention could cut it as stars in the nhl even rexi in his prime was more of a good regular in new york edmonton than a superstar in his own right although some blamed that on lack of effort on his behalf ruotsaleinen was a more than competent nhl er his choice of where to play when did not bear on his hockey playing ability he was crucial to the oilers stanley cup victory in the one without gretzky because he made an oiler power play which was lethargic that year until he arrived slide into overdrive the oilers missed him more the following year than kurri and i think the oilers would have make the finals if ruotsaleinen has stayed around the following season and would have beaten pittsburgh with ruotsaleinen and a healthy messier and delayed pittsburgh s dynasty by a season gerald
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re flyers notes could someone post the flyers record with and without eric lindros in the lineup i have a guy that is trying to compare the quebec flyers trade to the dallas minnesota trade in the nfl hershel walker i just need the stat to back up my point that eric will be one of the next great players thanks john
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who will be pick in nhl draft i recently bought a pack of prospect hockey cards which had various players that were coming into the nhl i got this particular card of a russian named viktor kozlov it says many scouts believe he will be the pick in another guy is quoted as saying he s as good as mario lemieux anyone know who this guy is via dlg pro v
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plus minus stat post of newsgroups rec sport hockey from j david sms business uwo ca james david subject plus minus stat organization university of western ontario date fri apr gmt nntp posting host sms business uwo ca lines i m not defending bob gainey frankly i don t care for him all that much but your dismissal of him as something less than an effective hockey player is tiresome it has no basis in anything how many calders did he win i think it was four go ooops that should read selke forgive me for my insolence congenially as always jd james david j david student business uwo ca j david sms business uwo ca james david western business school london ontario
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re stop predicting in article apr rose com jack petrilli rose com jack petrilli writes on april cdkaupan eos ncsu edu carl david kaupang wrote c it is really annoying to see all of these c predictions on the net who really cares c who you think will win please stop with c the predictions we all know the caps are c going to win the cup so let it go at that c haa that s one of the things i find most interesting in this newsgroup it s a good way of cluing into the collective wisdom of the average hockey fans that doesn t mean they re always right however for example the habs are going to come out of the adams and hardly anyone believes that right now jack it s hard to be humble when you re perfect well as long as we re being unduly cocky here it s obvious that the pens will cone out of the patrick division not the caps and also that they will win thier third stanley cup collective wisdom is a very polite way of putting it i don t know if i d be so gracious and for what it s worth probably not much i think the habs will come out of the adams too not new long absent mikey d mike dellinger computer lab consultant sutherland hall computer lab and grill university of pittsburgh
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hockey hispanic market in article saross starbase spd louisville edu saross starbase spd louisville edu stacey a ross writes in c i s bt odin corp sgi com rickc wrigley corp sgi com richard casares writes you ll have a hard time selling any sport to a community that can t play it on account of availability or financial reasons hockey is pretty much a sport for the white and well off what is this crap i m only interested in intelligent discussion if you can t answer my question just say so can anyone else answer the ques
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re hawks vs leafs lastnight in article acps ryevm ryerson ca raj ramnarace acps ryevm ryerson ca writes did anyone else see this game last night just like a playoff game lots of hitting but i was disappointed by the video goal judge on all replays joe murphy s goal shouldn t have counted it didn t go in net and according to the tsn broadcasters the video goal judge said that he saw the water bottle on top of the cage move so he assumed the puck went in this is terrible hope crap like this doesn t occur in the playoffs the game would have ended in tie i thought the red light went on thus in the review the presumption would be to find conclusive evidence that the puck did not go in the net from the replays i say even from the rear the evidence wasn t conclusive that the puck was in or out in my opinion gerald
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brown university ordered to restore two women s varsity teams i found this press release from trial lawyers for public justice on another system and thought it would be of interest on campuses where the administration or the athletics department wants to eliminate the women s ice hockey team women athletes tlp win sex discrimination ruling brown university ordered to restore two women s varsity teams to national desk sports writer contact lynette labinger home or ray marcaccio both of trial lawyers for public justice washington april the u s court of appeals for the first circuit in boston has upheld a u s district court order requiring brown university to immediately reinstate its women s gymnastics and volleyball teams to full varsity status the ruling in cohen et al v brown university is the first appeals court decision in the nation applying title ix to intercollegiate athletics trial lawyers for public justice tlpj is the national public interest law firm representing the women athletes this ruling makes clear what we have said all along if a school wants to eliminate teams before women have their fair share of opportunities to participate they can only eliminiate men s teams said tlpj executive director arthur bryant co counsel in the case the class action filed april charged brown with violating title ix of the education amendments of the federal law that prohibits sex discrimination by all educational institutions receiving federal funds brown terminated the two women s teams as university funded sports in may allowing them to continue to compete against varsity teams if they could raise their own funds for uniforms travel coaches and all other expenses they had also been denied admission preferences for use in recruiting new members this is a major victory for women and the cause of equal rights said tlpj lead counsel lynette labinger of providence s roney labinger universities across america need to reevaluate their programs quickly title ix is the law and it s going to be enforced three similar title ix appeals await decision colorado state university indiana university of pennsylvania iup and colgate university are asking federal appeals courts to overturn court orders requiring them to reinstate or establish specific women s varsity teams continuing its cutting edge title ix activities tlpj is representing women athletes at iup in addition to labinger and bryant tlpj s legal team included ray marcaccio of blish cavanagh and amato deluca of mandell deluca schwartz in providence and sandra duggan of philadelphia the national women s law center women s sports foundation and national association for girls and women in sports filed an amicus brief in support of tlpj s appeal
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re hawks vs leafs lastnight in apr alchemy chem utoronto ca golchowy alchemy chem utoronto ca gerald olchowy writes in article acps ryevm ryerson ca raj ramnarace acps ryevm ryerson ca writes did anyone else see this game last night just like a playoff game lots of hitting but i was disappointed by the video goal judge on all replays joe murphy s goal shouldn t have counted it didn t go in net and according to the tsn broadcasters the video goal judge said that he saw the water bottle on top of the cage move so he assumed the puck went in this is terrible hope crap like this doesn t occur in the playoffs the game would have ended in tie i thought the red light went on thus in the review the presumption would be to find conclusive evidence that the puck did not go in the net from the replays i say even from the rear the evidence wasn t conclusive that the puck was in or out in my opinion it seemed pretty conclusive to me the puck clearly hit the crossbar and then came down on the line and the announcers admittedly homers kept harping about how they must have had a different view upstairs because it was obvious to them and i would have thought to anyone who saw the replay that the puck didn t go in the referee originally signalled no goal but the video replay judges initiated contact with the referee to claim that a goal was in fact scored this to me is unheard of seeing stuff like this happen gives me a bad feeling about the leaf chances this year cordially as always rm roger maynard maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca
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nhl final point standings individual leaders by total points final standings note games played and points per games not accurate player team gp g a pts ppg prj pim m lemieux pit lafontaine buf oates bos yzerman det turgeon nyi selanne win mogilny buf gilmour tor robitaille la recchi phi sundin que stevens pit bure van tocchet pit roenick chi janney stl sakic que juneau bos hull stl andreychuk tor fleury cal francis pit housley win ciccarelli det damphousse mon hawerchuk buf shanahan stl muller mon jagr pit modano min messier nyr sanderson har reichel cal bellows mon fedorov det thomas nyi coffey det kurri la bradley tb brind amour phi ronning van bondra was cassels har murphy pit bourque bos granato la verbeek har ridley was duchesne que c lemieux nj suter cal lebeau mon roberts cal semak nj hatcher was d hunter was courtnall min brown stl ricci que kisio sj craven van g courtnall van nolan que king nyi amonte nyr gagner min lindros phi hogue nyi nieuwendyk cal pivonka was borschevsky tor dahlen min richer nj emerson stl nedved van chelios chi carson la zhamnov win kvartalnov bos steen win linden van mullen pit larmer chi donnelly la kovalenko que gartner nyr khristich was sheppard det garpenlov sj iafrate was gretzky la zalapski har graves nyr anderson tor zelepukin nj maciver ott dineen phi chiasson det ysebaert det galley phi mceachern pit nicholls nj keane mon flatley nyi s young que shannon win fedyk phi blake la olausson win makarov cal smith chi elynuik was stevens nj adams van tucker tb macinnis cal sutter chi bodger buf nemchinov nyr driver nj ruuttu chi yake har turcotte nyr sandstrom la malakhov nyi ward van otto cal kontos tb leach bos poulin har tkachuk win savard mon norton nyi cullen tor cote was eklund phi olczyk nyr semenov van davydov win miller stl poulin bos klima edm dionne mon baker ott rucinsky que weight edm zhitnik la maclean nj corson edm sweeney buf simpson edm hawgood phi johansson was miller was manson edm desjardins mon schneider mon goulet chi leclair mon drake det lumme van gaudreau sj gill tor turgeon ott probert det wood buf ranheim cal zamuner tb tinordi min paslawski cal ruzicka bos elik edm kudelski ott mcsorley la shaw ott lidstrom det stastny nj ellett tor tikkanen nyr niedermayer nj racine det mcphee min millen la chambers tb holik nj clark tor khmylev buf creighton tb krushelnyski tor kurvers nyi crossman stl kovalev nyr craig min krupp nyi momesso van kamensky que numminen win pearson tor graham chi leetch nyr ciger edm beers tb reid bos lapointe que sjodin min weinrich har borsato win zezel tor burr det donato bos benning edm howe det guerin nj hull ott d sweeney bos nylander har beranek phi wesley bos matteau chi broten min leeman mon dalgarno nyi mellanby edm primeau det gilbert chi mullen nyi presley buf leschyshyn que zubov nyr mironov tor bureau tb brisebois mon heinze bos smehlik buf lemieux chi yushkevich phi evason sj mcinnis nyi noonan chi gallant det kennedy det hough que gusarov que mactavish edm buchberger edm janssens har u samuelson pit sydor la duchesne min falloon sj sandlak van carpenter was kron har ferraro nyi kravchuk edm plavsic van ron sutter stl cole tb odgers sj fitzgerald nyi fetisov nj korolev stl kypreos har andersson tb huddy la rich sutter stl slegr van svoboda buf patrick nyr jones was lamb ott osborne tor may buf eagles win brunet mon t green nyi stern cal lidster van haller mon tippett pit peluso ott dimaio tb brady ott freer ott cavallini que lachance nyi shaw bos berg tor ozolinsh sj klatt min loach la todd edm ashton cal mcbain ott gelinas edm bautin win krygier was johnson min acton phi barnes win huffman que sutton buf mckay nj konstantinov det pellerin nj sillinger det volek nyi lindberg cal evans phi hamrlik tb gilchrist min churla min kasparaitis nyi loney pit courtenay sj wilson sj t pederson sj lomakin phi druce win hannan buf corriveau har bourque nyr hiller det maltais tb burt har johansson cal marchment chi diduck van podein edm berehowsky tor babych van audette buf chorske nj bassen stl hatcher min kucera chi wilson stl macoun tor king win beukeboom nyr carkner phi neely bos foligno tor christian chi errey buf gavin min mcllwain tor daigneault mon ramage mon smith edm paek pit murphy chi dipietro mon m pederson sj nattress phi carbonneau mon yawney cal kasatonov nj roberts bos macdermid was odjick van conacher la cavallini was erickson win straka pit erixon nyr murphy bos ledyard buf butsayev phi ulanov win carter sj glynn edm boschman ott rumble ott stanton pit murzyn van musil cal may was foote que odelein mon andersson nyr archibald ott taylor la lowe nyr domi win mccrimmon det konroyd det zombo stl butcher stl zmolek sj fergus van skrudland cal pantaleyev bos pearson que c j young bos smail ott hardy la broten nyr barr nj taglianetti pit ewen mon bergevin tb finn que lefebvre tor m sullivan sj ojanen nj reekie tb lindsay que ramsey pit valk van jelinek ott needham pit lowry stl rychel la mcgill phi stapleton pit richardson edm rouse tor daneyko nj ogrodnick det s king nyr joseph edm petit cal williams sj b smith min bozon stl ronan mon dirk van hunter van luongo ott berube cal wilson cal vujtek edm konowalchuk was snuggerud phi murray chi donnelly buf dahl cal kasper tb more sj quintal stl ludwig min muni chi lazaro ott norwood stl featherstone bos murphy ott debrusk edm wells nyr kimble bos corkum buf dahlquist cal gordijuk buf hurlbut nyr boivin phi moller buf cunneyworth har petrovicky har mcrae stl cirella nyr maley sj daniels pit hughes bos lalor win k samuelson pit mckenzie har kocur nyr loewen ott houlder buf t sweeney bos douris bos keczmer har greig har day har werenka edm tatarinov que mcdonough sj hill mon k brown chi loiselle nyi hudson edm hedican stl roberge mon ahola sj mcintyre nyr anderson was houda har hartman tb wilkinson sj hammond ott barrasso pit kennedy win eastwood tor quintin sj r brown chi godynyuk cal rice edm murray bos wiemer bos berezan sj marois nyi mallette nj hynes phi gilhen tb chase stl vukota nyi zettler sj lafreniere tb propp min belanger mon kerr har shuchuk la bergland tb vaske nyi carney buf dinnen ott albelin nj patterson buf ladouceur har russell chi lang la lipuma tb brown nj kozlov det savage was bruce sj byers sj conroy phi van allen edm richer bos wolanin que leach har prokhorov stl kruse cal richter nyr bawa sj osiecki min matvichuk min pedersen har jennings pit essensa win ray buf mckim bos faust phi smolinski bos fogarty pit hervey tb picard sj reese cal romaniuk win thompson la pilon nyi giles stl baron stl cheveldae det hankinson nj mcdougall edm felsner stl ruff tb petrov mon black min morris sj walter van hrivnak win wakaluk min dufresne mon cronin phi smyth cal hrudey la marsh ott casey min berry min ranford edm belfour chi rivers tb forslund cal capuano tb djoos nyr cummins det otevrel sj kolstad sj osborne tb wood sj brickley win eakins win simon que bennett chi gillis har carlyle win nylund nyi blue bos watters la woolley was whitmore van stauber la w young tb roussel phi twist que fiset que jablonski tb soderstrom phi healy nyi burke har hextall que roy mon vernon cal joseph stl brown phi grimson chi barnaby buf ratushny van zholtok bos sullivan nj duncanson nyr beaufait sj bowen phi macdonald buf esau que d smith min vial det brown buf draper buf karpa que tichy chi gosselin har fortier la hayward sj mcgill tor bergeron tb potvin la berthiaume ott racicot mon wregget pit ciccone min puppa tor hackett sj fitzpatrick nyi billington nj potvin tor vanbiesbrouk nyr mclean van moog bos beaupre was baumgartner tor bales bos burridge was chabot mon d alessio har littman tb parks nyi semchuk la st amour ott cimellaro ott cote tb marcinyshyn nyr o neill win raglan tb williams la charron mon ciavaglia buf cloutier que hamr ott wamsley tor hirsch nyr o connor nj j messier nyr knickle la chapdelaine la shannon tor agnew har waite chi langway was riendeau det hebert stl tabaracci was tugnutt edm caufield pit hasek buf pietrangelo har irbe sj terreri nj fuhr buf sidorkiewicz ott maurice richard
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re bruins vs canadiens un you better add at least another plus to the pederson for neely trade the bruins also received a number round draft pick didn t play great this year but wesley s still a decent defenseman and the bruins got pederson back eventually anyway pat ellis p s go bruins go umaine black bears number hockey east regulars season champions hockey east tournament champions paul kariya hobey baker award winner ncaa div hockey tournament champions m a i n e ggggooooooo bbbllluueeee
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keenan signs plus walsh well i just read in the boston globe that while not confirming or denying anything walsh may end up with the rangers organizations as an assistant coach keenan has talked with walsh in the past he came up to see kariya as he will be coaching him in the worlds funny i guess he got to watch the ferraro brothers as well i m not sure if walsh will go but if keenan is getting and walsh even gets that s a pay raise for walsh not to mention a nice career move anyone from new york hear anything about this pat ellis p s go bruins go umaine black bears number hockey east regulars season champions hockey east tournament champions paul kariya hobey baker award winner ncaa div hockey tournament champions m a i n e ggggooooooo bbbllluueeee
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re div and conf names in apr hubcap clemson edu jwodzia dlite uucp john wodziak writes sorry roger but mr basketbal should what he really means here ie he should have said that he hopes fans in the american southeast can follow the names of the divisions the odds that these people other than those who are displaced notherners who are probably already fans is on the order of the proverbial snowball s in hell i am not at all clear about what you are trying to say here if you asked somone who had never heard of hockey before if la played in the smythe division what do you think that the response would be what if you asked this person if la played in the west division the naming of divisions after long dead entrepreneurs is unnecessary obfuscation i am glad that the names are being changed for another reason the names patrick smythe norris adams and campbell are all the names of so called builders of the game this is the same type of thinking that put stein in the hall of fame this is absolute nonsense the real builders of the game are richard morenz howe conacher orr etc if you are going to name the divisions after people at least name the divisions after people who deserve it yes these people deserve recognigtion as hockey greats but the old division names took into account messers patrick norris smythe and the prince who had alot more to do with the origins of the league than people who came into an already established situation it is much easier to be an element of change hardly the established situation existed prior to smythe et al the stanley cup was a challenge trophy up for grabs to whatever team could successfully mount the challenge what our dear founders did was formalize the challenge they created a closed league an oligop olistic professional system in the interests of making money wheth er or not that system has contributed to better hockey is certainly debatable we are however stuck with their invention and that de bate is academic the point to be made however is that people played hockey and people enjoyed watching hockey long before smythe and his pals showed up or a standout in an existing situation than it is to be someone who creates a new situation if you want to honor players like bobby orr than i m sure you can find a reason to name a torphy after him such as best offensive defenseman what s wrong with best defenceman period was there ever a better defenceman was there ever a better player and if you think that bruce norris contribution was somehow more significant than bobby orr s then in the interests of education why don t you take a poll and find out how many people know who norris was but you don t have to do you no i can t for the reasons i gave above i m in the same boat as jason and i grew up with the current divisonal names and learned them when i was about years old and who played in what division if a year old american can learn this why would it be hard for an occasional fan to pick up on who plays in what division so you don t feel that you should have to make the effort to remember that vancouver plays in the west division or pacific or whatever other intuitively understandable moniker is chosen oh now i see your point your intention has been to alert us to the erosion of purity i ll bet you like hockey because it s for the most part played by whites of european extraction probably not in my case i m sure of this what you said would be like me saying that all maple leafs fans are as biased closed minded ignorant and of course you neatly deleted jason s jingoistic rant about the game losing its canadianization quoting me out of context does more to erode your credibility than it does mine my position is clearly progressive and is anything but biased closed minded ig norant arrogant i will grant you arrogant and moronic as you just because someone a doesn t like what mr basketball is doing b voices their opinion and c likes the senerio of you going to antartica does not mean that you have the right to insult them nice try john but for a flame to be truly effective you have to display at least enough intelligence to earn your target s respect cordially as always rm roger maynard maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca
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team pool tabulations thanks for the people who have entered this year s team pool here is a summary of what was picked st round pittsburgh new jersey chicago st louis boston buffalo vancouver winnipeg calgary los angeles detroit toronto washington new york islanders people picked new jersey quebec montreal nd round pittsburgh washington new york islanders boston quebec montreal detroit chicago toronto calgary vancouver los angeles winnipeg rd round pittsburgh boston quebec washington detroit chicago toronto vancouver calgary los angeles finals pittsburgh boston detroit toronto quebec los angeles chicago good luck to all mike burger my canada includes quebec ontario mmb lamar colostate edu the maritimes the prairies and florida a beginning computing ta stud four months a year over students served royal canadian air farce university of michigan colorado state university
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anyone have official shorthanded goal totals does anyone out there have the shorthanded goal totals of the nhl players for this season we re trying to finish our rotisserie stats and need shg to make it complete
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re my predictions of a classic playoff year in article ac dal ca paul ac dal ca writes stanley cup finals toronto maple leafs vs montreal canadiens the classic stanley cup final matchup also a dream come true montreal wins the stanley cup in the th game in double overtime you know after i finished laughing i thought this would be a great final two canadian teams with lots of tradition and all that don cherry nonsense behind them and a nail biter finish of course i would prefer a vancouver montreal final with vancouver scoring the final goal pity neither will happen steve holland
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re truly a sad day for hockey a fine year history came to a close tonight as the minnesota north stars or norm s stars whichever you prefer lost to the red wings by a score of the stars goals were scored by mike mcphee and ulf dahlen who netted two including the final one in franchise history with less than a minute to play yes it s a shame that the nhl lost a fine team in one of the best hockey markets in the country being a north stars fan it is sad to see all of the tradition of the last years get thrown into oblivion at the hands of a truly crappy owner hopefully the nhl will install an expansion franchise in the twin cities within the next five years even if this is the case a lot has been lost in the north stars move kea
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re possible canadian wc team nlu xenon stanford edu nelson lu writes centers mark messier n y rangers messier was not invited due to his nagging injuries while the press made an issue of it and attempted to link it to the rangers internal political woes mike keenan repeated that to messier personally during the msg press conference it makes sense messier would probably have not declined the invitation if it were made for publicity gld je me souviens gary l dare gld columbia edu go winnipeg jets go gld cunixc bitnet selanne domi stanley
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how difficult is it to get penguin tickets the subject line says it all is it terribly difficult to get tickets to penguins games especially now that they are in the playoffs would it be easy to find scalpers outside of the igloo selling tickets dean money dmoney magnus acs ohio state edu
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usenet hockey draft week standings well i m back from tokyo so here are the standings after the april update andrew usenet hockey draft standings week posn team pts proj cash last posn dave wessels bob hill gilles carmel seppo kemppainen the awesome oilers hillside raiders mak the knife paranjape jan stein this years model rangers of destiny tapio repo frank s big fish the underachievers on thin ice go flames littlest giants mopar muscle men lindros losers die penguin bandwaggoners samuel lau calgary alberta boomer s boys general accounting office delaware wombats migods menschen wellsy s buttheads dec nh rocky mountain high fife flyers gerald olchowy dave snell fluide glacial gaoler smegheads the young and the skateless sam his dogs neural netters youngbucs artic storm soft swedes jeff horvath milton keynes kings hamster from hoboken kuehn crushers le fleur de lys yan the man loke legion of hoth simmonac the finnish force ice legion streaks brian bergman goaldingers t c overachievers grant marven bozrah bruins real bad toe jam houdini s magicians skriko wolves rec sport hockey choices buffalo soldiers bemybaby lippe randy coulman lamp lighters steven and mark dream team indianapolis bennies tom bloom county all stars bruins phil and kev s karma dudes smithw iowa hockeyes doug bowles the great pumpkin non shooting seamen frank worthless aik exiles invisible inc brad gibson cougarmania kortelaisen kovat plp fools david wong john zupancic garryola gary bergman fan club staffan axelsson chubby checkers derrill s dastardly dozen chocolate rockets ken decruyenaere fisher dirtbags kodiaks no namers the campi machine bsc oranienburg the kamucks arsenal maple leafs ellis islanders mombasa mosquitos zachmans wingers edelweiss bjoern leaguen dirty white socks wormtown woosbags neil younger hurricane andrew king suke larry het schot is hard votenooct bloodgamers bruce s rented mules teem kanada frank s follies oklahoma stormchasers spuds pond slime psv dartmouth mark sanders blue talon stanford ice hawks aye carumba kokudo keikaku bunnies timo ojala haral cluster buster dirty rotten puckers apricot fuzzfaces the lost poots nesbitt gary bill pens dynasty garys team arctic circles seattle pftb late night with david letterman le groupe mi go bruins scott glenn flying kiwis team gold closet boy s boys wild hearted sons boutch andy y f wong wembley lostweekenders mckees rocks rockers book em danno s bushbabies dree hobbs go habs go goddess of fermentation tim rogers convex stars einstein s rock band princeton canucks tap hubert s hockey homeboys buttered waffles my team bob s blues furleys furies hunters collectors les nordiques satan s choice dr joel fleishman sundogs pierre mailhot slap shot marco san jose mahi mahi the leafs rule jeff nimeroff stimpy adg zeta the dreamers east city jokers daryl turner riding the pine flowers darse billings chappel s chumps lana inc spinal tap jimparker enforcers jeff bachovchin big bad bruins mike mac cormack sydney ns can bulldogs voyageurs absolut lehigh republican dirty tricksters henry s bar b q dr d and the s o d bunch of misfits robyns team yellow plague ninja turtles team melville acadien darman s dragons kuta papercuts great expectations cobra s killers cherry bombers jayson s kinky pucks killer apes kaufbeuren icebreakers umpire life roger smith firebirds those st few weeks hurt ikea wholesale outlaws the club thundering herd believe it or dont creeping death knee injuries crazy euros frack attack todd s turkeys ryan s renegades fred mckim hurricane pig vomit ice strykers fighting geordies cdn stuck in alabama dayton bomber cafall and crew chris of death swillbellies banko s beer rangers zipper heads ny flames ship s way laubsters ii oz joliet inmates ninja bunnies great scott widefield white wolves the ice holes sandy s sabres daves team south carolina tiger paws florida tech burgh team leos blue chips for xtc roadrunners mudville kings new jersey rob redliners pat phillips stewart clamen demon spawn sunnyvale storm allez les blues up for sale hockey club petes picks rinaco brenz revenge dinamo riga andrew scott andrew idacom hp com hp idacom telecom operation ext during the roman era was considered old
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usenet hockey draft week price list here is the price list for the week april to april andrew buy sell pts team player pit mario lemieux buf pat lafontaine bos adam oates det steve yzerman wpg teemu selanne nyi pierre turgeon tor doug gilmour buf alexander mogilny phi mark recchi la luc robitaille que mats sundin pit kevin stevens van pavel bure stl craig janney pit rick tocchet chi jeremy roenick que joe sakic stl brett hull cgy theoren fleury pit ron francis tor dave andreychuk bos joe juneau wpg phil housley mtl vincent damphousse mtl kirk muller det dino ciccarelli buf dale hawerchuk min mike modano nyr mark messier stl brendan shanahan pit jaromir jagr mtl brian bellows la jari kurri det sergei fedorov cgy robert reichel det paul coffey wsh peter bondra hfd geoff sanderson tb brian bradley nyi steve thomas pit larry murphy phi rod brind amour bos ray bourque que steve duchesne hfd andrew cassels la tony granato wsh dale hunter wsh mike ridley hfd pat verbeek mtl stephan lebeau cgy gary suter van cliff ronning nj claude lemieux que mike ricci van murray craven stl jeff brown wsh kevin hatcher nyr tony amonte sj kelly kisio nj alexander semak min russ courtnall min dave gagner tor nikolai borschevsky phi eric lindros la jimmy carson cgy joe nieuwendyk van geoff courtnall min ulf dahlen nyi derek king wsh michal pivonka que owen nolan bos dmitri kvartalnov stl nelson emerson chi chris chelios nyi benoit hogue nj stephane richer wpg thomas steen wpg alexei zhamnov chi steve larmer pit joe mullen nyr mike gartner van petr nedved van trevor linden la mike donnelly wsh dmitri khristich wsh al iafrate det ray sheppard que andrei kovalenko hfd zarley zalapski nyr adam graves sj johan garpenlov tor glenn anderson la wayne gretzky ott norm maciver phi garry galley det steve chiasson det paul ysebaert nj valeri zelepukin mtl mike keane phi brent fedyk pit shawn mceachern la rob blake nyi pat flatley que scott young wpg darrin shannon phi kevin dineen nj bernie nicholls cgy sergei makarov chi steve smith wsh pat elynuik van greg adams nj scott stevens tb john tucker wpg fredrik olausson nyr sergei nemchinov nyr darren turcotte cgy al macinnis chi christian ruuttu chi brent sutter hfd terry yake van dixon ward wpg keith tkachuk bos stephen leach tor john cullen mtl denis savard nyr ed olczyk van anatoli semenov wsh sylvain cote nyi vladimir malakhov nyi jeff norton hfd patrick poulin bos dave poulin la tomas sandstrom edm petr klima nj john maclean edm doug weight mtl gilbert dionne la alexei zhitnik edm shayne corson que martin rucinsky wpg evgeny davydov stl kevin miller edm craig simpson wsh kelly miller phi pelle eklund chi michel goulet edm dave manson ott sylvain turgeon cgy paul ranheim mtl mathieu schneider min mark tinordi det bob probert edm todd elik nyr esa tikkanen bos vladimir ruzicka ott bob kudelski nj peter stastny tor dave ellett ott brad shaw det niklas lidstrom nj bobby holik tor wendel clark nyr alexei kovalev buf yuri khmylev min mike mcphee tor rob pearson van sergio momesso nyr brian leetch chi dirk graham tb adam creighton que valery kamensky edm zdeno ciger la corey millen bos ted donato tor peter zezel min neal broten mtl gary leeman edm scott mellanby buf wayne presley det keith primeau nyi brian mullen phi josef beranek chi stephane matteau bos steve heinze phi dmitri yushkevich hfd mikael nylander buf richard smehlik tor dmitri mironov chi brian noonan sj pat falloon stl igor korolev wsh bob carpenter nyr james patrick buf petr svoboda ott mark lamb nyi scott lachance mtl benoit brunet tb mikael andersson edm martin gelinas wpg sergei bautin tor bill berg edm kevin todd nyi david volek nyi ray ferraro min brent gilchrist hfd yvon corriveau nyr phil bourque nyi darius kasparaitis det jim hiller phi andrei lomakin buf donald audette tb roman hamrlik bos cam neely sj mark pederson pit martin straka chi joe murphy nyr peter andersson ott tomas jelinek nj janne ojanen tb steve kasper min bobby smith sj ray whitney hfd robert petrovicky buf viktor gordijuk tor joe sacco que mikhail tatarinov sj peter ahola chi rob brown bos glen murray hfd tim kerr min brian propp wsh reggie savage stl vitali prokhorov la robert lang edm shaun van allen min dan quinn det viacheslav kozlov bos jozef stumpel pit bryan fogarty mtl olav petrov tb stan drulia wsh jason woolley nj claude vilgrain mtl patrick kjellberg ott alexei yashin wsh randy burridge edm dean mcammond cgy cory stillman tb brent gretzky buf jason dawe wsh brian sakic van igor larionov chi sergei krivokrasov que peter forsberg andrew scott andrew idacom hp com hp idacom telecom operation ext during the roman era was considered old
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aargh great hockey coverage devils locked away waiting for the tape delay to start it s nice that the devils are starting out their playoffs on network television too bad that their playoff game has been preempted on wabc am for an early season yankees baseball game it s a win by the texas rangers and they re delaying the tape delay by another half hour for the ballgame highlights gld je me souviens gary l dare gld columbia edu go winnipeg jets go gld cunixc bitnet selanne domi stanley
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nhl summary parse results for games played fri april philadelphia hartford first period hartford nylander unassisted philadelphia recchi lindros brind amour pp second period hartford burt cunneyworth kron philadelphia bowen eklund recchi hartford nylander zalapski sanderson third period hartford kron sanderson cassels pp philadelphia beranek lomakin yushkevich philadelphia faust brind amour roussel overtime philadelphia yushkevich faust philadelphia power play scorer g a pts beranek bowen brind amour eklund faust lindros lomakin recchi roussel yushkevich hartford power play scorer g a pts burt cassels cunneyworth kron nylander sanderson zalapski new jersey ny islanders first period ny islanders turgeon unassisted ny islanders thomas malakhov king pp ny islanders ferraro dalgarno malakhov second period new jersey niedermayer richer nicholls ny islanders mullen vaske dalgarno ny islanders thomas hogue norton new jersey zelepukin unassisted new jersey richer nicholls daneyko ny islanders hogue flatley ferraro third period ny islanders turgeon unassisted new jersey semak lemieux driver ny islanders turgeon king pilon ny islanders power play scorer g a pts dalgarno ferraro flatley hogue king malakhov mullen norton pilon thomas turgeon vaske new jersey power play scorer g a pts daneyko driver lemieux nicholls niedermayer richer semak zelepukin ny rangers washington first period ny rangers graves zubov andersson washington ridley unassisted second period washington hatcher johansson third period washington jones may washington cote khristich pivonka pp ny rangers gartner amonte andersson pp washington power play scorer g a pts cote hatcher johansson jones khristich may pivonka ridley ny rangers power play scorer g a pts amonte andersson gartner graves zubov
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re how difficult is it to get penguin tickets in article apr magnus acs ohio state edu dmoney magnus acs ohio state edu dean r money writes the subject line says it all is it terribly difficult to get tickets to penguins games especially now that they are in the playoffs would it be easy to find scalpers outside of the igloo selling tickets dean money dmoney magnus acs ohio state edu here is my traditional experience with tickets playoffs and otherwise at the civic arena scalping is illegal but nonetheless present outside the arena best strategy given that you don t mind missing the anthem which is ok if b e taylor decides to come back ever again is to wait until or when the game is rolling the scalpers are at this point desperate to sell and will reduce to near or at face value to get rid of their tickets playoffs are a little different in that good seats will go early on what s left at may be nosebleed material d e sections others can add on their opinions as well kevin l stamber purdue university penguins devils pens lead series game to none
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did the blues pull it out when i left it was blues with to go as i predicted in i was right in the first place blues in yes of course it s only one game that could be the hawks stab in the face to wake them up that s what playoffs are about on any given day robbie po pgh penguins we do what comes naturally patrick division semi s stanley cup you see now wait for the penguins devils champions possibility don t you see a penguins lead straight wins strong resemblance dg
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re playoff pool entry form well thanks to everyone who has entered so far there are at least entries and hopefully more people will enter before the deadline which is pm today sunday april in the interest of fairness since i will win anyway i feel it is only right to actually tell everyone my picks so that you all won t cry rigged after i declare myself the winner here they are series your pick games division semifinals pittsburgh new jersey pittsburgh washington ny islanders ny islanders boston buffalo boston quebec montreal quebec chicago st louis chicago detroit toronto detroit vancouver winnipeg winnipeg calgary los angeles calgary division finals patrick pittsburgh adams quebec norris chicago smythe calgary conference finals wales pittsburgh campbell chicago stanley cup winner pittsburgh keith keller let s go rangers let s go quakers kkeller mail sas upenn edu ivy league champs when i want your opinion i ll give it to you
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usenet playoff pool important i got back from my trip to discover that my email spool file got blown away i am missing all the playoff pool entries sent between april and april it looks like about entries got lost sigh therefore i would like to ask each person that sent me a team to resend it asap i am relying on your honesty to not make changes after the deadline today thanks in advance and i apologize for the problem andrew scott andrew idacom hp com hp idacom telecom operation ext during the roman era was considered old
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re aargh great hockey coverage devils in article apr news columbia edu gld cunixb cc columbia edu gary l dare wrote locked away waiting for the tape delay to start it s nice that the devils are starting out their playoffs on network television too bad that their playoff game has been preempted on wabc am for an early season yankees baseball game it s a win by the texas rangers and they re delaying the tape delay by another half hour for the ballgame highlights you think that s bad i m in bowling green oh and we get abc from toledo well the cable co decided to totally pre empt the game no tape delay no nothing for a stupid telethon hockey is very big around here too i had to listen to my penguins win on my car radio out in the parking lot i can just be thankful for a strong radio because being miles from pittsburgh the reception usually isn t good at all i can t believe i picked it up during the middle of the day george
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tie breaker isles and devils are people here stupid or what it is a tie breaker of cause they have to have the same record how can people be sooooo stuppid to put win as first in the list for tie breaker if it is a tie breaker how can there be different record man i thought people in this net are good with hockey i might not be great in math but tell me how can two teams ahve the same points with different record man retard can t believe people actually put win as first in a tie breaker
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blues steal game from hawks the blues scored two power play goals in seconds in the third period and the beat the chicago blackhawks sunday afternoon at chicago stadium brendan shanahan tied the game and brett hull scored the game winner seconds later jeff brown and denny felsner scored the other blues goals brian noonan had the hat trick for the hawks who also had some very good goaltending from ed belfour blues goalie curtis joseph was solid down the stretch to preserve the blues lead the hawks came out strong in the first period outshooting the blues and taking a lead on noonan s first goal right after an interference penalty on rick zombo had expired keith brown intercepted a clearing attempt at the blue line and passed the puck to steve larmer in the right circle larmer fired a long slap shot and noonan deflected the puck between joseph s pads after the goal the blues picked up the intensity and went on to outshoot the hawks in the first period jeff brown tied the game at of the second nelson emerson broke in on the left side got by craig muni and pushed the puck across the slot belfour came out to play the pass and shoveled it to the right boards where brown collected it and slapped it in before belfour could get back to the goal two minutes later on a hawks power play belfour stopped rich sutter on a short handed break in chris chelios picked up the puck and passed it to jeremy roenick who carried it on right wing and found an open noonan with a nice pass across the slot noonan fired it past joseph at for the lead noonan completed his hat trick later to increase the hawks lead to stephane matteau made a nice pass from the right boards to noonan who beat stephane quintal by driving to the net joseph had no chance as noonan deflected the puck in the net denny felsner reduced the blues deficit to at after picking up the rebound of basil mcrae s slap shot from the slot janney set up mcrae for the shot and the puck sailed wide of the net and bounced off the end boards to felsner felsner sticked the rebound into the partially open net the blues outshot the hawks in the second period with the blackhawks leading at of the third stephane matteau picked up a high sticking penalty just seconds into the power play steve smith was called for slashing giving the blues a on advantage for the blues didn t waste time as brendan shanahan scored just seconds into the two man advantage to tie the game janney found hull in the slot and hull fired a rocket at belfour jeff brown collected the rebound and passed it to shanahan in the left circle shanahan beat belfour from a sharp angle just seconds later hull scored the game winner for the blues nelson emerson broke in on right wing carried the puck behind the net along with two hawks defensemen emerson made a nice pass to an unchecked hull in the slot and hull beat belfour to put the blues up the hawks had several chances to tie the game in the final minutes but joseph made some brilliant saves to prevent the hawks from scoring he stopped troy murray point blank from just right of the crease with left in the game the blues killed off a late hawks power play with rich sutter clearing the puck with his hand as it was trickling along the goal line the blues held on to win the game the hawks oushot the blues in the third period totaling shots on goal for each team the blues special teams were excellent in the game the blues killed of hawks power plays and scored twice on on four power play chances the blues ranked among the best special teams in the league they rank nd in penalty killing and rd on the power play the game was carried live on abc the first time an nhl game other than an all star game has been shown on network television since may when cbs carried game of the stanley cup finals the best of seven series continues wednesday in chicago and friday and sunday in st louis box score blues blackhawks blues chicago first period chi noonan larmer k brown penalties shanahan stl holding zombo stl interference murphy chi high sticking grimson chi boarding zombo stl holding second period stl brown shanahan emerson chi ppg noonan roenick chelios chi noonan matteau sutter stl felsner mcrae janney penalties baron stl interference wilson stl tripping third period stl ppg shanahan j brown hull stl ppg hull emerson j brown penalties shanahan stl roughing matteau chi high sticking smith chi slashing baron stl roughing shots on goal blues chicago power play opportunities st louis of chicago of goaltenders st louis joseph shots saves chicago belfour referee kerry fraser linesmen kevin collins brian murphy a a l l e z l e s b l u e s joe ashkar contact for the blues saint louis jca cec wustl edu blues
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re tie breaker isles and devils in lrw f rpi edu wangr vccsouth its rpi edu rex wang writes i might not be great in math but tell me how can two teams ahve the same points with different record man retard can t believe people actually put win as first in a tie breaker well i don t see any smileys here i am trying to figure out if the poster is a dog or a wordprocessor couldn t be neither both are smarter than this i might not be great in math cordially as always maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca so many morons rm and so little time
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re aargh great hockey coverage devils in article apr news columbia edu gld cunixb cc columbia edu gary l dare says locked away waiting for the tape delay to start i think this guy is going to be just a little bit disappointed lemieux two tocchet mullen tippett and jagr i buzzed my friend because i forgot who had scored mullen s goal i said who scored lemieux two tocchet tippett jagr the funny part was i said the jagr part non chalantly as he was in the process of scoring while i was asking this question all in all abc s coverage wasn t bad on a scale of i give it about an how were the games in the chi st louis la area it s nice that the devils are starting out their playoffs on network television too bad that their playoff game has been preempted on wabc am for an early season yankees baseball game that s stupid i d complain to the television network if i were to even see a pirates game on instead of a penguins game at this time of the year i and many other pittsburghers would surely raise hell it s a win by the texas rangers and they re delaying the tape delay by another half hour for the ballgame highlights texas is off to a good start they may pull it out this year whoops that belongs in rec sport baseball robbie po pgh penguins we do what comes naturally patrick division semi s stanley cup you see now wait for the penguins devils champions possibility don t you see a penguins lead straight wins strong resemblance dg
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re i was right in the first place in article vzhivov cunews vzhivov superior carleton ca vladimir zhivov says in rap psuvm psu edu robbie po rap psuvm psu edu writes red wings vs maple leafs maple leafs in comment it s kind of tough to rely on yzerman as the team s main weapon he s a great palyer but dino knows all about choking which puts the burden on steve even more potvin s had a hell of a season and goaltending is what you need in the playoffs for a great prognosticator you seem to remember very little playoff history dino always shows up in the playoffs which is why he is a great sleeper pick in pools don t forget about fedorov one of the top players in the nhl imho and coffey who has the most stanley cup rings of any active players correct me if i m wrong wings in a cakewalk oh yeah how come dino could never take the caps out of the patrick division he choked up games to last year and got swept away in the second round two years ago he rarely if ever makes it out of the division canucks vs jets canucks in comment it s more like vancouver vs selanne king and domi for enforcing help winnipeg out a little maybe a game canucks have their number except that the canuck are playing like shit winnipeg can win this one though i think vancouver will manage to slip by so are the islanders but they can still pull it out vancouver has winnipeg s number so it really doesn t matter flames vs kings flames in comment games looks good as the kings always seem to battle it out flames are back in running and won t know memories of last year s season gretzky is on a tear but there are too many surrounding the kings kings always seem to battle it out when where kings always seem to go at least or they never play a four or five game serious there s a difference between battling it out and pulling it out as i take calgary to pull it out in robbie po pgh penguins we do what comes naturally patrick division semi s stanley cup you see now wait for the penguins devils champions possibility don t you see a penguins lead straight wins strong resemblance dg
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daigle kariya i hear daigle will eb the first pick next year what is the word on kariya anybody ever seen him play on tv is he also entering the draft
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umass big east hockey underway the mission to revive hockey at umass is now underway at the pm saturday afternoon press conference held at the new mullins center arena former boston college asst coach joe mallen was awarded the year year contract as head coach for the umass minutemen mallen was the third viable pick for the position right behind jeff jackson lake superior and second behind shawn walsh umaine previous offers for the position were rumored to have been offered to the asst coaches of brown rpi and the head coach of the ahl springfield indians umass hockey was disbanded in due to financial constraints that had undermined the team s position over a period of years in late november of last year the million mullins sports center was opened following its one year construction deadline the minutemen are slated to play an independent div ii div iii schedule this upcoming winter before officially entering hockey east for the winter season mallen has yet to comment on player recruitment strategies or potential team candidates for the minutemen it is expected that he will leverage off his inside contacts within new england the bay state and europe to draw on competitive top ice players for the university umass has slated hockey scholarships for the upcoming fall semester expect to hear more from me as i hear more from my sources j d jim doyle univ of massachusetts dept of computer science staff programmer puma dcc cnet email doyle gaia cs umass edu office lederle grc room a tel home blackberry ln tel amherst ma
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re how difficult is it to get penguin tickets in article apr magnus acs ohio state edu dmoney magnus acs ohio state edu dean r money writes the subject line says it all is it terribly difficult to get tickets to penguins games especially now that they are in the playoffs would it be easy to find scalpers outside of the igloo selling tickets there are always scalpers with tickets outside the arena you might have to pay a few bucks extra but you can always find them look on the street under the message board or out on the street in front of the hyatt or even around gate the later you buy them the less money you ll pay and during the regular season you could usually find some for near face value or below if you wait until game time might be better to pick them up earlier now though rick
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