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"Sorry but god no.\nIt burns all the way down, you like this? 🥲",
">\n\nI'm able to do that 9/10. I never understood peoples complaints about huge pills, it just goes right down.\nI wouldn't say I like it. 1/10 they feel like they get hung in my throat and I'm eating a slice of bread. So I usually take water with them.",
">\n\nI gag on anything bigger than a regular Tylenol capsule. I can't brush my tongue without gagging. When I was pregnant I didn't get my prenatal half the time when it was the prescription pill because the size of it triggered my gag reflex. I had to go get some OTC gummies instead. \nAnd God forbid I'm sick and the only cold/cough option is the huge DayQuil.",
">\n\n\"Interesting! I've never heard of anyone enjoying the sensation of swallowing pills without liquids. That's a unique perspective, and it's great that you found something that provides relief during an uncomfortable time. The human body is truly amazing in its ability to adapt and find comfort!\" -3 points",
">\n\nDamn, this has got to be one of the most unpopular opinions I've seen! Good work.",
">\n\nYou definitely win the category of “No one I’ve ever met has ever fucking done that.”",
">\n\nPills are much easier to take with food. Need to finish chewing, add to mouth, then swallow.\nCan comfortably take a really surprising number of pills in one go. But, really, don't chew them!",
">\n\nYou have to be juicey.",
">\n\nTried this and had to go to the hospital",
">\n\nI use to chew my pills despite the pill itself saying not too when I was younger, I didn't even like the taste of the pill. I also use to swallow it without water, U don't even know how I was able to do it, take my upvote.",
">\n\n\ni not u",
">\n\nThis doesn’t even make sense. Scratching your throat hurts when it’s inflamed",
">\n\nMy fiancé used to dry swallow pills until she got an ulcer from it. She was in extreme pain every time she ate or drank anything until it healed, which was like 3 weeks.",
">\n\nThere’s a story of a Dr. Max Pemberton who took tablets regularly without water and woke up with a hole burned through his esophagus."
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"Sorry but god no.\nIt burns all the way down, you like this? 🥲",
">\n\nI'm able to do that 9/10. I never understood peoples complaints about huge pills, it just goes right down.\nI wouldn't say I like it. 1/10 they feel like they get hung in my throat and I'm eating a slice of bread. So I usually take water with them.",
">\n\nI gag on anything bigger than a regular Tylenol capsule. I can't brush my tongue without gagging. When I was pregnant I didn't get my prenatal half the time when it was the prescription pill because the size of it triggered my gag reflex. I had to go get some OTC gummies instead. \nAnd God forbid I'm sick and the only cold/cough option is the huge DayQuil.",
">\n\n\"Interesting! I've never heard of anyone enjoying the sensation of swallowing pills without liquids. That's a unique perspective, and it's great that you found something that provides relief during an uncomfortable time. The human body is truly amazing in its ability to adapt and find comfort!\" -3 points",
">\n\nDamn, this has got to be one of the most unpopular opinions I've seen! Good work.",
">\n\nYou definitely win the category of “No one I’ve ever met has ever fucking done that.”",
">\n\nPills are much easier to take with food. Need to finish chewing, add to mouth, then swallow.\nCan comfortably take a really surprising number of pills in one go. But, really, don't chew them!",
">\n\nYou have to be juicey.",
">\n\nTried this and had to go to the hospital",
">\n\nI use to chew my pills despite the pill itself saying not too when I was younger, I didn't even like the taste of the pill. I also use to swallow it without water, U don't even know how I was able to do it, take my upvote.",
">\n\n\ni not u",
">\n\nThis doesn’t even make sense. Scratching your throat hurts when it’s inflamed",
">\n\nMy fiancé used to dry swallow pills until she got an ulcer from it. She was in extreme pain every time she ate or drank anything until it healed, which was like 3 weeks.",
">\n\nThere’s a story of a Dr. Max Pemberton who took tablets regularly without water and woke up with a hole burned through his esophagus.",
">\n\nSaving this post to show to atheists who think Satan isn't real"
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The White Helmets members who accepted Israel's aid had to flee Syria.
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Meh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.
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Neither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie."
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Everyone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm."
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There are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.
Source: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?"
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I always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like "I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!"
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…"
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Always liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\""
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A lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon."
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It could just take place in a kids imagination.
Disclaimer: I have not seen the movie
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh"
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No, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.
They tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie"
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Not buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.
Signed; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense."
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I feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything."
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They address this in the Lego movie.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being."
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Toy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie."
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But there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though"
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Yeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over."
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I mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo"
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Did I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it."
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This is literally the whole thread
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?"
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Yes but I'm talking to you.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread"
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Sure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.
I guess, yeah, you did read it.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you."
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Or maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it."
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An AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas."
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Has to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch."
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I'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?)
When you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets."
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It "established" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.
So if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a "toy" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with.
So a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest
Edit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question..."
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Yes, that's the premise
But what when you take them appart?
Does it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR
Does it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR
Does it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore
Or whatever else you can think of
Since a lego has no "main part" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?
What if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?
Do they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?
I think I'm having a stroke.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown."
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Wait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke."
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Planes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe."
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The WW2 part has some implications I don't like
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war"
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All I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like"
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Imagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.
You're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen"
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Still better than having to live in a jar
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!"
] |
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Them MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar"
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No
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck"
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Yes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.
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[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo"
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There is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill
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[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes."
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>
‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.
|
[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill"
] |
>
The bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?
Edit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!
|
[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this."
] |
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Don’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.
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[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!"
] |
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That begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly
|
[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question."
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They did before Sid ruined them
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly"
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Toy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the "living toy" thing works.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them"
] |
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I think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.
Now, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works."
] |
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The tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts
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[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying."
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No way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.
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[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts"
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The Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?
Am I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?
Or am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.
What I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.
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[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that."
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Is everything awesome?
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[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become."
] |
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yes
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[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?"
] |
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Nah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes"
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Legos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance."
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Portuguese man o’ war.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king"
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The Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.
Plus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.
.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war."
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YOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object."
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There are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.
It's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!"
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I mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be"
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Nah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2"
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Man, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla"
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I think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together"
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I'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego."
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Maybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape."
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Lego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool."
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Disassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began."
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Exactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison"
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I imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace."
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Nah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys"
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I always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism."
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I bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole."
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Was there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will"
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There's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.
For example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.
That means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will."
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I always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move."
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In a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces
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[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works."
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Legos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces"
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The Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO
|
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own."
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That’s not canon
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO"
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According to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon"
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I’m just being a contrarian
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon",
">\n\nAccording to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon"
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No you're not
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon",
">\n\nAccording to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon",
">\n\nI’m just being a contrarian"
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"Look, I came here for a good argument!"
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon",
">\n\nAccording to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon",
">\n\nI’m just being a contrarian",
">\n\nNo you're not"
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AH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon",
">\n\nAccording to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon",
">\n\nI’m just being a contrarian",
">\n\nNo you're not",
">\n\n\"Look, I came here for a good argument!\""
] |
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They’re all individual toys and they can assemble themselves at will.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon",
">\n\nAccording to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon",
">\n\nI’m just being a contrarian",
">\n\nNo you're not",
">\n\n\"Look, I came here for a good argument!\"",
">\n\nAH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!"
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Does each piece have sentience or does the set itself have it's own identity?
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon",
">\n\nAccording to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon",
">\n\nI’m just being a contrarian",
">\n\nNo you're not",
">\n\n\"Look, I came here for a good argument!\"",
">\n\nAH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!",
">\n\nThey’re all individual toys and they can assemble themselves at will."
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Nah, each individual Lego brick is a separate being unto itself
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon",
">\n\nAccording to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon",
">\n\nI’m just being a contrarian",
">\n\nNo you're not",
">\n\n\"Look, I came here for a good argument!\"",
">\n\nAH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!",
">\n\nThey’re all individual toys and they can assemble themselves at will.",
">\n\nDoes each piece have sentience or does the set itself have it's own identity?"
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I always thought it would be like the power rangers. each piece its own entity
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon",
">\n\nAccording to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon",
">\n\nI’m just being a contrarian",
">\n\nNo you're not",
">\n\n\"Look, I came here for a good argument!\"",
">\n\nAH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!",
">\n\nThey’re all individual toys and they can assemble themselves at will.",
">\n\nDoes each piece have sentience or does the set itself have it's own identity?",
">\n\nNah, each individual Lego brick is a separate being unto itself"
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Was it agony to be a sperm? Single Lego bricks are toy sperm in toy story cannon
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon",
">\n\nAccording to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon",
">\n\nI’m just being a contrarian",
">\n\nNo you're not",
">\n\n\"Look, I came here for a good argument!\"",
">\n\nAH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!",
">\n\nThey’re all individual toys and they can assemble themselves at will.",
">\n\nDoes each piece have sentience or does the set itself have it's own identity?",
">\n\nNah, each individual Lego brick is a separate being unto itself",
">\n\nI always thought it would be like the power rangers. each piece its own entity"
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Each piece is an individual. We do enjoy being assembled though, it gives us a sense of community.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon",
">\n\nAccording to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon",
">\n\nI’m just being a contrarian",
">\n\nNo you're not",
">\n\n\"Look, I came here for a good argument!\"",
">\n\nAH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!",
">\n\nThey’re all individual toys and they can assemble themselves at will.",
">\n\nDoes each piece have sentience or does the set itself have it's own identity?",
">\n\nNah, each individual Lego brick is a separate being unto itself",
">\n\nI always thought it would be like the power rangers. each piece its own entity",
">\n\nWas it agony to be a sperm? Single Lego bricks are toy sperm in toy story cannon"
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"I don't understand it. The more bits of me there were, the larger my capacity for the perception of pain. As I decayed into pieces smaller than living nerves could possibly distinguish, the character of the discomfort changed — from burning and aching and breaking I might relate to you in human terms — to something worse that I cannot fully articulate: a terrible, maddening stretching of every part of myself from every other part...
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon",
">\n\nAccording to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon",
">\n\nI’m just being a contrarian",
">\n\nNo you're not",
">\n\n\"Look, I came here for a good argument!\"",
">\n\nAH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!",
">\n\nThey’re all individual toys and they can assemble themselves at will.",
">\n\nDoes each piece have sentience or does the set itself have it's own identity?",
">\n\nNah, each individual Lego brick is a separate being unto itself",
">\n\nI always thought it would be like the power rangers. each piece its own entity",
">\n\nWas it agony to be a sperm? Single Lego bricks are toy sperm in toy story cannon",
">\n\nEach piece is an individual. We do enjoy being assembled though, it gives us a sense of community."
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My pet theory is that in the Toy Story universe, Lego are a collective intelligence.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon",
">\n\nAccording to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon",
">\n\nI’m just being a contrarian",
">\n\nNo you're not",
">\n\n\"Look, I came here for a good argument!\"",
">\n\nAH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!",
">\n\nThey’re all individual toys and they can assemble themselves at will.",
">\n\nDoes each piece have sentience or does the set itself have it's own identity?",
">\n\nNah, each individual Lego brick is a separate being unto itself",
">\n\nI always thought it would be like the power rangers. each piece its own entity",
">\n\nWas it agony to be a sperm? Single Lego bricks are toy sperm in toy story cannon",
">\n\nEach piece is an individual. We do enjoy being assembled though, it gives us a sense of community.",
">\n\n\"I don't understand it. The more bits of me there were, the larger my capacity for the perception of pain. As I decayed into pieces smaller than living nerves could possibly distinguish, the character of the discomfort changed — from burning and aching and breaking I might relate to you in human terms — to something worse that I cannot fully articulate: a terrible, maddening stretching of every part of myself from every other part..."
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Like, when do toys attain consciousness? When they are all added to the box? If you lose a piece and replace it does it feel like a prosthetic?
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon",
">\n\nAccording to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon",
">\n\nI’m just being a contrarian",
">\n\nNo you're not",
">\n\n\"Look, I came here for a good argument!\"",
">\n\nAH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!",
">\n\nThey’re all individual toys and they can assemble themselves at will.",
">\n\nDoes each piece have sentience or does the set itself have it's own identity?",
">\n\nNah, each individual Lego brick is a separate being unto itself",
">\n\nI always thought it would be like the power rangers. each piece its own entity",
">\n\nWas it agony to be a sperm? Single Lego bricks are toy sperm in toy story cannon",
">\n\nEach piece is an individual. We do enjoy being assembled though, it gives us a sense of community.",
">\n\n\"I don't understand it. The more bits of me there were, the larger my capacity for the perception of pain. As I decayed into pieces smaller than living nerves could possibly distinguish, the character of the discomfort changed — from burning and aching and breaking I might relate to you in human terms — to something worse that I cannot fully articulate: a terrible, maddening stretching of every part of myself from every other part...",
">\n\nMy pet theory is that in the Toy Story universe, Lego are a collective intelligence."
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What is the logical most granular object with consciousness in the toy story universe? What is the ship of Theseus in this world?
Does plastic have consciousness but no means by which to emote it?
Do all polymers?
Are the lakes of fossil fuels in the ground like Changelings lakes in Star Trek?
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon",
">\n\nAccording to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon",
">\n\nI’m just being a contrarian",
">\n\nNo you're not",
">\n\n\"Look, I came here for a good argument!\"",
">\n\nAH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!",
">\n\nThey’re all individual toys and they can assemble themselves at will.",
">\n\nDoes each piece have sentience or does the set itself have it's own identity?",
">\n\nNah, each individual Lego brick is a separate being unto itself",
">\n\nI always thought it would be like the power rangers. each piece its own entity",
">\n\nWas it agony to be a sperm? Single Lego bricks are toy sperm in toy story cannon",
">\n\nEach piece is an individual. We do enjoy being assembled though, it gives us a sense of community.",
">\n\n\"I don't understand it. The more bits of me there were, the larger my capacity for the perception of pain. As I decayed into pieces smaller than living nerves could possibly distinguish, the character of the discomfort changed — from burning and aching and breaking I might relate to you in human terms — to something worse that I cannot fully articulate: a terrible, maddening stretching of every part of myself from every other part...",
">\n\nMy pet theory is that in the Toy Story universe, Lego are a collective intelligence.",
">\n\nLike, when do toys attain consciousness? When they are all added to the box? If you lose a piece and replace it does it feel like a prosthetic?"
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You have complete and total nerve sensitivity in your feet. You can feel them. They, from time to time, will itch. You cannot scratch them.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon",
">\n\nAccording to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon",
">\n\nI’m just being a contrarian",
">\n\nNo you're not",
">\n\n\"Look, I came here for a good argument!\"",
">\n\nAH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!",
">\n\nThey’re all individual toys and they can assemble themselves at will.",
">\n\nDoes each piece have sentience or does the set itself have it's own identity?",
">\n\nNah, each individual Lego brick is a separate being unto itself",
">\n\nI always thought it would be like the power rangers. each piece its own entity",
">\n\nWas it agony to be a sperm? Single Lego bricks are toy sperm in toy story cannon",
">\n\nEach piece is an individual. We do enjoy being assembled though, it gives us a sense of community.",
">\n\n\"I don't understand it. The more bits of me there were, the larger my capacity for the perception of pain. As I decayed into pieces smaller than living nerves could possibly distinguish, the character of the discomfort changed — from burning and aching and breaking I might relate to you in human terms — to something worse that I cannot fully articulate: a terrible, maddening stretching of every part of myself from every other part...",
">\n\nMy pet theory is that in the Toy Story universe, Lego are a collective intelligence.",
">\n\nLike, when do toys attain consciousness? When they are all added to the box? If you lose a piece and replace it does it feel like a prosthetic?",
">\n\nWhat is the logical most granular object with consciousness in the toy story universe? What is the ship of Theseus in this world?\nDoes plastic have consciousness but no means by which to emote it?\nDo all polymers?\nAre the lakes of fossil fuels in the ground like Changelings lakes in Star Trek?"
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What about the sex toys? How'd you like to be the vibrator that goes in some 80 year old's arse?
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon",
">\n\nAccording to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon",
">\n\nI’m just being a contrarian",
">\n\nNo you're not",
">\n\n\"Look, I came here for a good argument!\"",
">\n\nAH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!",
">\n\nThey’re all individual toys and they can assemble themselves at will.",
">\n\nDoes each piece have sentience or does the set itself have it's own identity?",
">\n\nNah, each individual Lego brick is a separate being unto itself",
">\n\nI always thought it would be like the power rangers. each piece its own entity",
">\n\nWas it agony to be a sperm? Single Lego bricks are toy sperm in toy story cannon",
">\n\nEach piece is an individual. We do enjoy being assembled though, it gives us a sense of community.",
">\n\n\"I don't understand it. The more bits of me there were, the larger my capacity for the perception of pain. As I decayed into pieces smaller than living nerves could possibly distinguish, the character of the discomfort changed — from burning and aching and breaking I might relate to you in human terms — to something worse that I cannot fully articulate: a terrible, maddening stretching of every part of myself from every other part...",
">\n\nMy pet theory is that in the Toy Story universe, Lego are a collective intelligence.",
">\n\nLike, when do toys attain consciousness? When they are all added to the box? If you lose a piece and replace it does it feel like a prosthetic?",
">\n\nWhat is the logical most granular object with consciousness in the toy story universe? What is the ship of Theseus in this world?\nDoes plastic have consciousness but no means by which to emote it?\nDo all polymers?\nAre the lakes of fossil fuels in the ground like Changelings lakes in Star Trek?",
">\n\nYou have complete and total nerve sensitivity in your feet. You can feel them. They, from time to time, will itch. You cannot scratch them."
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It’s serving a purpose in making a person happy, which seems to be the default goal of most toys.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon",
">\n\nAccording to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon",
">\n\nI’m just being a contrarian",
">\n\nNo you're not",
">\n\n\"Look, I came here for a good argument!\"",
">\n\nAH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!",
">\n\nThey’re all individual toys and they can assemble themselves at will.",
">\n\nDoes each piece have sentience or does the set itself have it's own identity?",
">\n\nNah, each individual Lego brick is a separate being unto itself",
">\n\nI always thought it would be like the power rangers. each piece its own entity",
">\n\nWas it agony to be a sperm? Single Lego bricks are toy sperm in toy story cannon",
">\n\nEach piece is an individual. We do enjoy being assembled though, it gives us a sense of community.",
">\n\n\"I don't understand it. The more bits of me there were, the larger my capacity for the perception of pain. As I decayed into pieces smaller than living nerves could possibly distinguish, the character of the discomfort changed — from burning and aching and breaking I might relate to you in human terms — to something worse that I cannot fully articulate: a terrible, maddening stretching of every part of myself from every other part...",
">\n\nMy pet theory is that in the Toy Story universe, Lego are a collective intelligence.",
">\n\nLike, when do toys attain consciousness? When they are all added to the box? If you lose a piece and replace it does it feel like a prosthetic?",
">\n\nWhat is the logical most granular object with consciousness in the toy story universe? What is the ship of Theseus in this world?\nDoes plastic have consciousness but no means by which to emote it?\nDo all polymers?\nAre the lakes of fossil fuels in the ground like Changelings lakes in Star Trek?",
">\n\nYou have complete and total nerve sensitivity in your feet. You can feel them. They, from time to time, will itch. You cannot scratch them.",
">\n\nWhat about the sex toys? How'd you like to be the vibrator that goes in some 80 year old's arse?"
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Why does Buzz Lightyear pretend to be a toy when Andy enters the room if he believes he's an actual Space Ranger?
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon",
">\n\nAccording to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon",
">\n\nI’m just being a contrarian",
">\n\nNo you're not",
">\n\n\"Look, I came here for a good argument!\"",
">\n\nAH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!",
">\n\nThey’re all individual toys and they can assemble themselves at will.",
">\n\nDoes each piece have sentience or does the set itself have it's own identity?",
">\n\nNah, each individual Lego brick is a separate being unto itself",
">\n\nI always thought it would be like the power rangers. each piece its own entity",
">\n\nWas it agony to be a sperm? Single Lego bricks are toy sperm in toy story cannon",
">\n\nEach piece is an individual. We do enjoy being assembled though, it gives us a sense of community.",
">\n\n\"I don't understand it. The more bits of me there were, the larger my capacity for the perception of pain. As I decayed into pieces smaller than living nerves could possibly distinguish, the character of the discomfort changed — from burning and aching and breaking I might relate to you in human terms — to something worse that I cannot fully articulate: a terrible, maddening stretching of every part of myself from every other part...",
">\n\nMy pet theory is that in the Toy Story universe, Lego are a collective intelligence.",
">\n\nLike, when do toys attain consciousness? When they are all added to the box? If you lose a piece and replace it does it feel like a prosthetic?",
">\n\nWhat is the logical most granular object with consciousness in the toy story universe? What is the ship of Theseus in this world?\nDoes plastic have consciousness but no means by which to emote it?\nDo all polymers?\nAre the lakes of fossil fuels in the ground like Changelings lakes in Star Trek?",
">\n\nYou have complete and total nerve sensitivity in your feet. You can feel them. They, from time to time, will itch. You cannot scratch them.",
">\n\nWhat about the sex toys? How'd you like to be the vibrator that goes in some 80 year old's arse?",
">\n\nIt’s serving a purpose in making a person happy, which seems to be the default goal of most toys."
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We are the lego, resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.
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">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon",
">\n\nAccording to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon",
">\n\nI’m just being a contrarian",
">\n\nNo you're not",
">\n\n\"Look, I came here for a good argument!\"",
">\n\nAH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!",
">\n\nThey’re all individual toys and they can assemble themselves at will.",
">\n\nDoes each piece have sentience or does the set itself have it's own identity?",
">\n\nNah, each individual Lego brick is a separate being unto itself",
">\n\nI always thought it would be like the power rangers. each piece its own entity",
">\n\nWas it agony to be a sperm? Single Lego bricks are toy sperm in toy story cannon",
">\n\nEach piece is an individual. We do enjoy being assembled though, it gives us a sense of community.",
">\n\n\"I don't understand it. The more bits of me there were, the larger my capacity for the perception of pain. As I decayed into pieces smaller than living nerves could possibly distinguish, the character of the discomfort changed — from burning and aching and breaking I might relate to you in human terms — to something worse that I cannot fully articulate: a terrible, maddening stretching of every part of myself from every other part...",
">\n\nMy pet theory is that in the Toy Story universe, Lego are a collective intelligence.",
">\n\nLike, when do toys attain consciousness? When they are all added to the box? If you lose a piece and replace it does it feel like a prosthetic?",
">\n\nWhat is the logical most granular object with consciousness in the toy story universe? What is the ship of Theseus in this world?\nDoes plastic have consciousness but no means by which to emote it?\nDo all polymers?\nAre the lakes of fossil fuels in the ground like Changelings lakes in Star Trek?",
">\n\nYou have complete and total nerve sensitivity in your feet. You can feel them. They, from time to time, will itch. You cannot scratch them.",
">\n\nWhat about the sex toys? How'd you like to be the vibrator that goes in some 80 year old's arse?",
">\n\nIt’s serving a purpose in making a person happy, which seems to be the default goal of most toys.",
">\n\nWhy does Buzz Lightyear pretend to be a toy when Andy enters the room if he believes he's an actual Space Ranger?"
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Mr. and Mrs. Potato Head seem alright disassembling so I think they’re fine lol
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nMeh, Mrs. Potato Head doesnt appear to be in pain when she is missing an eye in the third movie.",
">\n\nNeither does Mr potato head when he repeatedly gets all his parts thrown everywhere. Or buzz when he loses an arm. Or woody when he loses an arm. Or Bo Peep when she loses an arm. Or cruger when he loses an arm.",
">\n\nEveryone's losing arms. What is this, Star Wars?",
">\n\nThere are several Star Wars references in Toy Story 2.\nSource: I watched it last night with my kids. And the night before that… and the night before that… and the night before that…",
">\n\nI always laugh when Zurg tells the Other Buzz that he is Buzz's father, then at the end of the movie Other Buzz is like \"I'm gonna go play catch with MY DAD!\"",
">\n\nAlways liked that part as well. Makes me irrationally angry watching the new Lightyear movie with my son that they didn't respect Zurg being Buzz's father as canon.",
">\n\nA lot of that movie didn’t make sense tbh",
">\n\nIt could just take place in a kids imagination.\nDisclaimer: I have not seen the movie",
">\n\nNo, it's canonically the movie in the toy story universe Buzz Lightyear is the merchandise of.\nThey tried a twist in which >!Zurg turns out to be not Buzz father, but Buzz from the future!< but it fell kinda flat since a lot of the stuff in the movie didn't make much sense.",
">\n\nNot buzz finds the armour, the robots already say Zurg instead of buzz (he mentions they just count say buzz). The armour comes back online in the post credit scene, not buzz isn’t the true Zurg.\nSigned; a dad to a 3 year old obsessed with lightyear anything.",
">\n\nI feel like Legos would be a hive mind creature. All acting individually but coming together to form one being.",
">\n\nThey address this in the Lego movie.",
">\n\nToy Story and Lego Movies are different franchises though",
">\n\nBut there is a Toy Story Lego set so they could cross over.",
">\n\nYeah, but these are the movies we're talking about. Merch doesn't really factor in that much imo",
">\n\nI mean, the Lego movies are about the merch and make all the crossovers a part of the story. The only reason it didn't happen is because they didn't get the license for it.",
">\n\nDid I really just read an argument about how sentient Legos function in fictional universes?",
">\n\nThis is literally the whole thread",
">\n\nYes but I'm talking to you.",
">\n\nSure, but I don't know what you are expecting several posts down in a topic that is all about overthinking sentient Legos.\nI guess, yeah, you did read it.",
">\n\nOr maybe the perfect way to be a troll. Just leave yourself lying around hallways and high traffic areas.",
">\n\nAn AI Lego set that teams up with Macaulay Culkin, trolling burglars and car jackers. A movie I might watch.",
">\n\nHas to be macaulay as he is now though, just a random sorta awkward 40-something who goes on random youtubers' channel's. Could bring the brick experiment channel along for the ride to make all the gadgets.",
">\n\nI'd think that's more like a sporky thing (was that his name?) \nWhen you assemble the set, it creates a new, live toy, what happens when you disassemble is my question...",
">\n\nIt \"established\" from toystory 1, what breaths life into toys is the imagination given to them.. In short If it's a toy, it's alive.\nSo if you pull the arm off buzz light year it's just an inanimate object with no life of its own since it's the arm of a toy but not normally a toy itself, but sid can stick doll legs on a toy fishing rod and now it's alive and sentient. Anything that can be called a \"toy\" is alive. Even a spork with a face on it or stinky Pete who wasn't ever directly played with. \nSo a lego set has no life on its own in pieces, But once assembled can become alive. It's parts given form. Sure arguably a single piece could be alive.. But really it's just how the writers decide to handle it if we're being honest\nEdit: since it keeps getting commented on.. The actual reason is the script calls for it. And nothing written in the script happens ever because it's just a movie. But that's sucking all the joy out of the post and conversation and I don't think you'd be fun at any parties to argue with fan speculation based on what the movies do show.. And how it could apply to what hasn't been shown.",
">\n\nYes, that's the premise\nBut what when you take them appart?\nDoes it cease to be what it is, no longer exist, until it's again put togheter in other form, and then it becomes something else, OR\nDoes it cease to be, then when put togheter again in another form, it retains what it was in the past, and recognizes being another form, but still the same toy, OR\nDoes it not cease to be at all, like a potato head that keeps being, just not assembled anymore\nOr whatever else you can think of\nSince a lego has no \"main part\" once you take it apart, what part of it will keep being what it was?\nWhat if the set is assembled into a robot, then days after, taken apart, and assembled as two different robots?\nDo they both retain a hive mind of the first toy, or do they become two different, new toys? Or does one of them retains the giant robot being, and the new one just becomes another toy?\nI think I'm having a stroke.",
">\n\nWait till you start thinking about the Cars + Planes universe.",
">\n\nPlanes establishes that there was both a Cars WW2 and a Cars cold war",
">\n\nThe WW2 part has some implications I don't like",
">\n\nAll I'mma say is if Porsche exists then so must Volkswagen",
">\n\nImagine being in a toy collector's collection. And I'm not talking about Al here either.\nYou're just put on a shelf in a certain position and remain there for months at a time. Or just stuck in a box after finally being bought. No wonder the Prospector went nuts!",
">\n\nStill better than having to live in a jar",
">\n\nThem MLP figurines must be traumatized as fuck",
">\n\nNo",
">\n\nYes, Rainbow Dash... Oh yes.",
">\n\nThere is a Toy Story Tale of Horror or whatever it's called on Disney+ that has a lego set disassemble and reassemble at will. I think the key issue is whether or not it's been taken out of the package, so, all its parts can be together and use that assembly skill",
">\n\n‘Toy Story of Terror!’ Came here to say this.",
">\n\nThe bigger question is: does the entire Lego set come to life or just the minifigures? Do we get an animated fire truck or animated little firemen driving a functional firetruck?\nEdit: I’m loving all the deep Toy Story lore!",
">\n\nDon’t the plastic soldiers drive around a non-sentient jeep at some point? I think that answers the question.",
">\n\nThat begs the question, are eyes necessary to be sentient in Toy Story? Miss hooker didn’t have any eyes.. or a lot of Sid’s toys if my memory from 10-25 years ago serves me correctly",
">\n\nThey did before Sid ruined them",
">\n\nToy Story 3 with the tortilla and Toy Story 4 with Sporky really open up a lot of uncomfortable questions about how exactly the \"living toy\" thing works.",
">\n\nI think the implications in Legos are perfectly clear. Only the minifigures head piece is sentient and able to imbue pieces with life.\nNow, what that means in the other scheme of the tortilla or household objects....terrifying.",
">\n\nThe tortilla was never alive, only Mr potato's parts",
">\n\nNo way man. If that were true it would lay flat and he could only flop like a snake. He supports his own weight at one point. Only whatever cosmic horror animates then can do that.",
">\n\nThe Lego Philosophical Conundrum: Purpose or Potential?\nAm I made to be one thing? Am I predestined to exist only in one way not determined by me?\nOr am I free to be whatever the imagination allows me to become? Perhaps it is not perfect, but it is free choice.\nWhat I am meant to be, or what I am free to become.",
">\n\nIs everything awesome?",
">\n\nyes",
">\n\nNah, Lego's are actually a hive-mind. Individually they have little to no sentience, but when formed into colonies they take on the aspects of their appearance.",
">\n\nLegos are just rats, and when you assemble them, they become toy version of a rat king",
">\n\nPortuguese man o’ war.",
">\n\nThe Looping/Race track was an inanimate fucking object in TS1 so I guess construct parts are not alive.\nPlus Fork from TS4 only became alive AFTER he was built.\n.... I'm sorry I called the race track an inanimate fucking object.",
">\n\nYOU’RE an inanimate FUCKING object!",
">\n\nThere are inanimate toys in the movies, we see Lincoln Logs, Mrs Nesbit and Sister, tea cup sets.\nIt's safe to assume Legos wouldn't be sentient, but the Minifigures would be",
">\n\nI mean, that zebra from TS4 in the antique shop had half his body ripped off by the cat and they seemed fine. Same for when Woody ripped his arm in TS2",
">\n\nNah, imagine the plastic models. The vehicles and airplanes, the Star Trek starships and Gunpla",
">\n\nMan, that poor person's pile of shame... Unless they don't gain sentience until put together",
">\n\nI think it is the opposite. When you assemble them they are stuck, but when apart they can become anything. Be like unassembled Lego.",
">\n\nI'd assume it feels the same as being an unassembled human long before you were born. All your molecules were here already, just not in your shape.",
">\n\nMaybe each Lego brick is sentient and they exist as a hive mind when assembled? Maybe Lego structures would try to assimilate other smaller structures? Actually this sounds pretty cool.",
">\n\nLego meets the doll house, thus the great toy war began.",
">\n\nDisassembled is the pure form, it’s bliss. Assembled into a rigid structure is a prison",
">\n\nExactly, was OP in agony before his atoms were assembled into his current being? No, that was the last time he was at peace.",
">\n\nI imagine the lego pieces as some kind of collective, like the barrel of monkeys",
">\n\nNah and yah. The individual legos are sub-sentient, and the things they build are mindful of their past lives. As a result, they tend to be attracted to Buddhism.",
">\n\nI always kinda figured Lego, or really any construction set toy, would be more like a hive mind than parts of a whole.",
">\n\nI bet Legos are a hivemind that can assemble their self at will",
">\n\nWas there not a short where there was a Lego character? They were able to disassemble and reassemble at will.",
">\n\nThere's a lot of terrifying concepts in Toy Story when you think about it for any amount of time.\nFor example, toys feel pain. And they feel heat. And they scream in agony.\nThat means every time you leave a toy in the sun and it gets hot, it's paralyzed but also in extreme pain. Oh, you put a dark toy in the sand on a hot beach? And it gets up to 140-160 degrees? Yeah, it's literally burning, unable to die, unable to move.",
">\n\nI always just assumed each piece would be its own entity. Because that's kinda how lego works.",
">\n\nIn a “Toy Story of Terror” short on Disney+ there is a Lego character which is seen to be able to self assemble like the Lego movie pieces",
">\n\nLegos are just toys for the toys. They have no life of their own.",
">\n\nThe Halloween special has a shape-shifting character made of LEGO",
">\n\nThat’s not canon",
">\n\nAccording to who? Nothing in it is contradicted by canon",
">\n\nI’m just being a contrarian",
">\n\nNo you're not",
">\n\n\"Look, I came here for a good argument!\"",
">\n\nAH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!",
">\n\nThey’re all individual toys and they can assemble themselves at will.",
">\n\nDoes each piece have sentience or does the set itself have it's own identity?",
">\n\nNah, each individual Lego brick is a separate being unto itself",
">\n\nI always thought it would be like the power rangers. each piece its own entity",
">\n\nWas it agony to be a sperm? Single Lego bricks are toy sperm in toy story cannon",
">\n\nEach piece is an individual. We do enjoy being assembled though, it gives us a sense of community.",
">\n\n\"I don't understand it. The more bits of me there were, the larger my capacity for the perception of pain. As I decayed into pieces smaller than living nerves could possibly distinguish, the character of the discomfort changed — from burning and aching and breaking I might relate to you in human terms — to something worse that I cannot fully articulate: a terrible, maddening stretching of every part of myself from every other part...",
">\n\nMy pet theory is that in the Toy Story universe, Lego are a collective intelligence.",
">\n\nLike, when do toys attain consciousness? When they are all added to the box? If you lose a piece and replace it does it feel like a prosthetic?",
">\n\nWhat is the logical most granular object with consciousness in the toy story universe? What is the ship of Theseus in this world?\nDoes plastic have consciousness but no means by which to emote it?\nDo all polymers?\nAre the lakes of fossil fuels in the ground like Changelings lakes in Star Trek?",
">\n\nYou have complete and total nerve sensitivity in your feet. You can feel them. They, from time to time, will itch. You cannot scratch them.",
">\n\nWhat about the sex toys? How'd you like to be the vibrator that goes in some 80 year old's arse?",
">\n\nIt’s serving a purpose in making a person happy, which seems to be the default goal of most toys.",
">\n\nWhy does Buzz Lightyear pretend to be a toy when Andy enters the room if he believes he's an actual Space Ranger?",
">\n\nWe are the lego, resistance is futile, you will be assimilated."
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