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That’s what no heat gets you. Burned up criminal conspiracy documents.
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"It's only clear if one can prove they were originals, not copies. I'm all for holding them accountable but you toss the baby out with the bath water. Be rational and logical.",
">\n\nI’m sure they brunt copies because that’s what you do with incriminating evidence copy it and burn the copies. Jesus man.",
">\n\nI'm just saying... rationally speaking, if you can't prove they were original documents, you cannot jump straight to \"yep that's it, hang em\". Are the odds good that they were originals? I'd say yes, but you have to prove it.",
">\n\nHe was a participant in a criminal conspiracy and he burned documents I would vote to convict.",
">\n\nWithout evidence? What you mentioned is circumstantial. If you're willing to convict someone of a specific crime without specific evidence to back it up, you're no better than they are. You would be acting on emotion and bias rather than evidence and proof. This is how lots of people end up locked up who are actually innocent of the crime in question because they are judged based on other behavior. That is not justice served.",
">\n\nIf you provably conspired to murder someone provably and we find human blood stains on your rug its ok to consider it further proof of the same crime we already proved. \nThere is ample evidence of the criminal conspiracy. There is no motivation in any possible universe where someone guilty of criminal conspiracy burns government documents and we believe that the governments were copies.\nPlease note the word reasonable in reasonable doubt.",
">\n\n\nprovably\n\nTherein lies the problem",
">\n\nWe have ample evidence of conspiracy to subvert democracy",
">\n\nThat's not what's being discussed. We're talking about Meadows burning documents.",
">\n\nLock him up.",
">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off",
">\n\nGuys can't even courtesy flush because by the time they finally get that beefroll down the hatch, it's too late--the stink is everywhere by then. Not me, of course. But Bubba, next cell over--hooWEE! Let me tell you folks, it's true. This is America, can you believe it? Maybe it's fine in Gynna. Their poops are smaller, I guess. Short little people over there. Little people, little poops. And I don't like how you have to pull down the jumpsuit to drop a deuce, either. Everyone says I wear it well, though--the warden, the CO's. No one has ever looked more presidential in a jumpsuit, they say.",
">\n\nThis women deserves the credit mike pence is getting",
">\n\nIt’s really annoying that Mike Pence keeps getting any credit for anything. He showed he had a spine on the one day it matters, and then keeps trying to play the “we just need to put this behind us and focus on the “real”* issues”. Again, Mike Pence did the only thing that mattered of him on Jan 6, good. I’m glad he was there and did that.\nIt doesnt make him a good person. It doesnt make him smart. And without verbally attacking the person who sent a far right mob to kill him, he is fine with his life being put in danger for “owning the libs”. What a spineless piece of shit.\n*real meaning anything I can make up that forces democrats to react to, and usually it has nothing to do with true policy.",
">\n\nEh, you guys are just struggling to give credit where credit is due because of the R next to his name and disagreements on previous policies. Call a spade a spade, the man made a hard decision for the moment and he should be honored for it just like those that voted not to impeach Andrew Johnson in the 1860s and others that came before us who stood to keep our country hole.",
">\n\nIt’s honestly a question of if you think certifying votes should qualify as job done. I’d argue that when you see, firsthand, a fundamental threat to our democracy as the second in command you are duty bound to do more than turn the page.",
">\n\nI agree completely. I’d just like to push back that it’s a lot easier to say this on a Reddit thread than with 60,000 people screaming hang Mike Pence on your front door from constructed gallows. Anyone who says he doesn’t deserve credit is doing so because they are unable to come down from their tower.",
">\n\nThe problem with giving Pence too much credit is that it glosses over the fact that, prior to January 6th, Pence was trying really hard to do what Trump wanted. He was looking for any legal justification to not certify the election and was even entertaining the idea without one.\nIt's like giving someone a pat on the back for finally doing the right thing after they knowingly did the wrong thing.\nIn addition, that moment of courage by Pence gets completely washed away by his intransigence to comply with the investigation. All he cares about is his political ambitions.",
">\n\nMaybe so. But history will be written with Pence as a hero and that’s okay with me.",
">\n\nAnd cassidy Hutchinson should be. My original point. Yea, his co pilot through this entire shit show is a hero for doing his job. I don't feel bad for the situation they got themselves into. There were more than enough warning signs leading allll the way up to this day.",
">\n\nWelp... That's obstruction / destruction of evidence.",
">\n\nFor all the security cameras in public places you'd think we'd also have them for public offices.",
">\n\nThe difference is the people making those decisions are in the offices.",
">\n\nIt's probably more effective than flushing them.",
">\n\nOr eating them",
">\n\nOr stealing them.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 65%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nFormer Trump White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson indicated Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, burned documents in his fireplace roughly a dozen times in the final weeks of the administration, according to newly released transcripts of her House Jan. 6 committee depositions.\n\"The Presidential Records Act only asks that you keep the original copy of a document. So, yes,\" Hutchinson said when asked if she saw Meadows use the fireplace to burn documents.\n\"I know maybe three or four times - between two and four times, he had Mr. Perry in his office right before,\" Hutchinson told the committee, although she cautioned that she did not know what documents were burned.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Hutchinson^#1 Meadows^#2 burn^#3 document^#4 fireplace^#5",
">\n\nMerrick, you're up dude, jesus.",
">\n\nabdicated to jack smith to maintain independence so that the criminal process itself cannot be attacked to avoid justice.",
">\n\nthat was locker room destruction of government property. also trump has complete immunity. ALSO (somehow) he did nothing wrong.",
">\n\nI would assume that any document given to Mark Meadows was printed off and must be on a hard drive somewhere right? It's not the olden days when records were stored only on paper. So why was MM burning them?",
">\n\nHandwritten memos, received old school faxes, typewritten single copies. \nAlthough I did buy a used fax machine years ago that came from a gov’t office and stored on the carbon roll were months of a provincial cabinet minister’s outgoing communications.",
">\n\nShe’s very brave and I hope she can continue speaking truth to this national embarrassment",
">\n\nThis seems rather early 20th century don't you think? Republicans......ever behind the times. LOL.",
">\n\nTruly the Internet Explorer of political parties.",
">\n\nThe political party of AOL dialup.",
">\n\nBrought to you by Carl’s Jr.",
">\n\nWelcome to Costco, I love you",
">\n\nArrest the shitstain and his boss already DOJ.",
">\n\nSo no one is going to prison for this presidential crime spree? Really??",
">\n\nFun little felony.",
">\n\nPence only did the right thing because after talking to his lawyers, he realized he would be on legal trouble. He only did it for his own a**",
">\n\nAND after talking with Dan Quayle, checking if there was anything Pence could legally do to stop the certification.",
">\n\nBut what about Hillary’s emails ?",
">\n\nShe was the one who basically lied about the limo issue, right?\nJust checking.",
">\n\nWho else does stuff like this? Wait... I know... Don't tell me...\nOh! The Nazis! They did stuff like this.",
">\n\nArrest him?",
">\n\nThat whole “her email” and “her server” was literally a distraction.",
">\n\nWow. I can’t wait for something to be done about this. /s",
">\n\nThis is not at all surprising. Piece of shit doing piece of shit things.",
">\n\nMeadows was part of the planners for the J6 riots. He better start cooperating before he is sentenced to decades in prison.",
">\n\nWhen do we start injecting these crooks with Sodium Pentothal?",
">\n\nPut Meadows in jail already",
">\n\nNohing will happen.",
">\n\nCool, can't wait for the DOJ to continue to do nothing.",
">\n\nPence should have been a Leader and not a Denier, if he had half the spine Cassy has, he would be the leading 2024 GOP nominee!!!",
">\n\nOh I’m sure they’re still on somebody’s hard-drive or email server somewhere. Burning docs doesn’t clear things up in today’s world.",
">\n\nThere’s no evidence. It’s just her statement. She could be saying all these things bc she don’t like trump like most of you. Ya was okay with twitter censorship. Maybe Twitter ceo with most of its employees should be in jail for censoring and interfering in the election.",
">\n\nOh no. The guy who helped plan a coup burned some documents. Whatever will we do.",
">\n\nis this the same lady that saying what happened in the limo but wasnt even in the limo?",
">\n\nIf it turns out to be true, its bad and there should be consequences though - right?",
">\n\n“once they turned his office fireplace in December 2020”\nDoes anyone copy edit this stuff? What the hell is this supposed to mean?",
">\n\nCryin’ Mark Meadows"
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Of course he did 🙄
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[
"It's only clear if one can prove they were originals, not copies. I'm all for holding them accountable but you toss the baby out with the bath water. Be rational and logical.",
">\n\nI’m sure they brunt copies because that’s what you do with incriminating evidence copy it and burn the copies. Jesus man.",
">\n\nI'm just saying... rationally speaking, if you can't prove they were original documents, you cannot jump straight to \"yep that's it, hang em\". Are the odds good that they were originals? I'd say yes, but you have to prove it.",
">\n\nHe was a participant in a criminal conspiracy and he burned documents I would vote to convict.",
">\n\nWithout evidence? What you mentioned is circumstantial. If you're willing to convict someone of a specific crime without specific evidence to back it up, you're no better than they are. You would be acting on emotion and bias rather than evidence and proof. This is how lots of people end up locked up who are actually innocent of the crime in question because they are judged based on other behavior. That is not justice served.",
">\n\nIf you provably conspired to murder someone provably and we find human blood stains on your rug its ok to consider it further proof of the same crime we already proved. \nThere is ample evidence of the criminal conspiracy. There is no motivation in any possible universe where someone guilty of criminal conspiracy burns government documents and we believe that the governments were copies.\nPlease note the word reasonable in reasonable doubt.",
">\n\n\nprovably\n\nTherein lies the problem",
">\n\nWe have ample evidence of conspiracy to subvert democracy",
">\n\nThat's not what's being discussed. We're talking about Meadows burning documents.",
">\n\nLock him up.",
">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off",
">\n\nGuys can't even courtesy flush because by the time they finally get that beefroll down the hatch, it's too late--the stink is everywhere by then. Not me, of course. But Bubba, next cell over--hooWEE! Let me tell you folks, it's true. This is America, can you believe it? Maybe it's fine in Gynna. Their poops are smaller, I guess. Short little people over there. Little people, little poops. And I don't like how you have to pull down the jumpsuit to drop a deuce, either. Everyone says I wear it well, though--the warden, the CO's. No one has ever looked more presidential in a jumpsuit, they say.",
">\n\nThis women deserves the credit mike pence is getting",
">\n\nIt’s really annoying that Mike Pence keeps getting any credit for anything. He showed he had a spine on the one day it matters, and then keeps trying to play the “we just need to put this behind us and focus on the “real”* issues”. Again, Mike Pence did the only thing that mattered of him on Jan 6, good. I’m glad he was there and did that.\nIt doesnt make him a good person. It doesnt make him smart. And without verbally attacking the person who sent a far right mob to kill him, he is fine with his life being put in danger for “owning the libs”. What a spineless piece of shit.\n*real meaning anything I can make up that forces democrats to react to, and usually it has nothing to do with true policy.",
">\n\nEh, you guys are just struggling to give credit where credit is due because of the R next to his name and disagreements on previous policies. Call a spade a spade, the man made a hard decision for the moment and he should be honored for it just like those that voted not to impeach Andrew Johnson in the 1860s and others that came before us who stood to keep our country hole.",
">\n\nIt’s honestly a question of if you think certifying votes should qualify as job done. I’d argue that when you see, firsthand, a fundamental threat to our democracy as the second in command you are duty bound to do more than turn the page.",
">\n\nI agree completely. I’d just like to push back that it’s a lot easier to say this on a Reddit thread than with 60,000 people screaming hang Mike Pence on your front door from constructed gallows. Anyone who says he doesn’t deserve credit is doing so because they are unable to come down from their tower.",
">\n\nThe problem with giving Pence too much credit is that it glosses over the fact that, prior to January 6th, Pence was trying really hard to do what Trump wanted. He was looking for any legal justification to not certify the election and was even entertaining the idea without one.\nIt's like giving someone a pat on the back for finally doing the right thing after they knowingly did the wrong thing.\nIn addition, that moment of courage by Pence gets completely washed away by his intransigence to comply with the investigation. All he cares about is his political ambitions.",
">\n\nMaybe so. But history will be written with Pence as a hero and that’s okay with me.",
">\n\nAnd cassidy Hutchinson should be. My original point. Yea, his co pilot through this entire shit show is a hero for doing his job. I don't feel bad for the situation they got themselves into. There were more than enough warning signs leading allll the way up to this day.",
">\n\nWelp... That's obstruction / destruction of evidence.",
">\n\nFor all the security cameras in public places you'd think we'd also have them for public offices.",
">\n\nThe difference is the people making those decisions are in the offices.",
">\n\nIt's probably more effective than flushing them.",
">\n\nOr eating them",
">\n\nOr stealing them.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 65%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nFormer Trump White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson indicated Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, burned documents in his fireplace roughly a dozen times in the final weeks of the administration, according to newly released transcripts of her House Jan. 6 committee depositions.\n\"The Presidential Records Act only asks that you keep the original copy of a document. So, yes,\" Hutchinson said when asked if she saw Meadows use the fireplace to burn documents.\n\"I know maybe three or four times - between two and four times, he had Mr. Perry in his office right before,\" Hutchinson told the committee, although she cautioned that she did not know what documents were burned.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Hutchinson^#1 Meadows^#2 burn^#3 document^#4 fireplace^#5",
">\n\nMerrick, you're up dude, jesus.",
">\n\nabdicated to jack smith to maintain independence so that the criminal process itself cannot be attacked to avoid justice.",
">\n\nthat was locker room destruction of government property. also trump has complete immunity. ALSO (somehow) he did nothing wrong.",
">\n\nI would assume that any document given to Mark Meadows was printed off and must be on a hard drive somewhere right? It's not the olden days when records were stored only on paper. So why was MM burning them?",
">\n\nHandwritten memos, received old school faxes, typewritten single copies. \nAlthough I did buy a used fax machine years ago that came from a gov’t office and stored on the carbon roll were months of a provincial cabinet minister’s outgoing communications.",
">\n\nShe’s very brave and I hope she can continue speaking truth to this national embarrassment",
">\n\nThis seems rather early 20th century don't you think? Republicans......ever behind the times. LOL.",
">\n\nTruly the Internet Explorer of political parties.",
">\n\nThe political party of AOL dialup.",
">\n\nBrought to you by Carl’s Jr.",
">\n\nWelcome to Costco, I love you",
">\n\nArrest the shitstain and his boss already DOJ.",
">\n\nSo no one is going to prison for this presidential crime spree? Really??",
">\n\nFun little felony.",
">\n\nPence only did the right thing because after talking to his lawyers, he realized he would be on legal trouble. He only did it for his own a**",
">\n\nAND after talking with Dan Quayle, checking if there was anything Pence could legally do to stop the certification.",
">\n\nBut what about Hillary’s emails ?",
">\n\nShe was the one who basically lied about the limo issue, right?\nJust checking.",
">\n\nWho else does stuff like this? Wait... I know... Don't tell me...\nOh! The Nazis! They did stuff like this.",
">\n\nArrest him?",
">\n\nThat whole “her email” and “her server” was literally a distraction.",
">\n\nWow. I can’t wait for something to be done about this. /s",
">\n\nThis is not at all surprising. Piece of shit doing piece of shit things.",
">\n\nMeadows was part of the planners for the J6 riots. He better start cooperating before he is sentenced to decades in prison.",
">\n\nWhen do we start injecting these crooks with Sodium Pentothal?",
">\n\nPut Meadows in jail already",
">\n\nNohing will happen.",
">\n\nCool, can't wait for the DOJ to continue to do nothing.",
">\n\nPence should have been a Leader and not a Denier, if he had half the spine Cassy has, he would be the leading 2024 GOP nominee!!!",
">\n\nOh I’m sure they’re still on somebody’s hard-drive or email server somewhere. Burning docs doesn’t clear things up in today’s world.",
">\n\nThere’s no evidence. It’s just her statement. She could be saying all these things bc she don’t like trump like most of you. Ya was okay with twitter censorship. Maybe Twitter ceo with most of its employees should be in jail for censoring and interfering in the election.",
">\n\nOh no. The guy who helped plan a coup burned some documents. Whatever will we do.",
">\n\nis this the same lady that saying what happened in the limo but wasnt even in the limo?",
">\n\nIf it turns out to be true, its bad and there should be consequences though - right?",
">\n\n“once they turned his office fireplace in December 2020”\nDoes anyone copy edit this stuff? What the hell is this supposed to mean?",
">\n\nCryin’ Mark Meadows",
">\n\nThat’s what no heat gets you. Burned up criminal conspiracy documents."
] |
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Well he has a foot above Trump. He burned documents instead of trying to flush them down the toilet.
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[
"It's only clear if one can prove they were originals, not copies. I'm all for holding them accountable but you toss the baby out with the bath water. Be rational and logical.",
">\n\nI’m sure they brunt copies because that’s what you do with incriminating evidence copy it and burn the copies. Jesus man.",
">\n\nI'm just saying... rationally speaking, if you can't prove they were original documents, you cannot jump straight to \"yep that's it, hang em\". Are the odds good that they were originals? I'd say yes, but you have to prove it.",
">\n\nHe was a participant in a criminal conspiracy and he burned documents I would vote to convict.",
">\n\nWithout evidence? What you mentioned is circumstantial. If you're willing to convict someone of a specific crime without specific evidence to back it up, you're no better than they are. You would be acting on emotion and bias rather than evidence and proof. This is how lots of people end up locked up who are actually innocent of the crime in question because they are judged based on other behavior. That is not justice served.",
">\n\nIf you provably conspired to murder someone provably and we find human blood stains on your rug its ok to consider it further proof of the same crime we already proved. \nThere is ample evidence of the criminal conspiracy. There is no motivation in any possible universe where someone guilty of criminal conspiracy burns government documents and we believe that the governments were copies.\nPlease note the word reasonable in reasonable doubt.",
">\n\n\nprovably\n\nTherein lies the problem",
">\n\nWe have ample evidence of conspiracy to subvert democracy",
">\n\nThat's not what's being discussed. We're talking about Meadows burning documents.",
">\n\nLock him up.",
">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off",
">\n\nGuys can't even courtesy flush because by the time they finally get that beefroll down the hatch, it's too late--the stink is everywhere by then. Not me, of course. But Bubba, next cell over--hooWEE! Let me tell you folks, it's true. This is America, can you believe it? Maybe it's fine in Gynna. Their poops are smaller, I guess. Short little people over there. Little people, little poops. And I don't like how you have to pull down the jumpsuit to drop a deuce, either. Everyone says I wear it well, though--the warden, the CO's. No one has ever looked more presidential in a jumpsuit, they say.",
">\n\nThis women deserves the credit mike pence is getting",
">\n\nIt’s really annoying that Mike Pence keeps getting any credit for anything. He showed he had a spine on the one day it matters, and then keeps trying to play the “we just need to put this behind us and focus on the “real”* issues”. Again, Mike Pence did the only thing that mattered of him on Jan 6, good. I’m glad he was there and did that.\nIt doesnt make him a good person. It doesnt make him smart. And without verbally attacking the person who sent a far right mob to kill him, he is fine with his life being put in danger for “owning the libs”. What a spineless piece of shit.\n*real meaning anything I can make up that forces democrats to react to, and usually it has nothing to do with true policy.",
">\n\nEh, you guys are just struggling to give credit where credit is due because of the R next to his name and disagreements on previous policies. Call a spade a spade, the man made a hard decision for the moment and he should be honored for it just like those that voted not to impeach Andrew Johnson in the 1860s and others that came before us who stood to keep our country hole.",
">\n\nIt’s honestly a question of if you think certifying votes should qualify as job done. I’d argue that when you see, firsthand, a fundamental threat to our democracy as the second in command you are duty bound to do more than turn the page.",
">\n\nI agree completely. I’d just like to push back that it’s a lot easier to say this on a Reddit thread than with 60,000 people screaming hang Mike Pence on your front door from constructed gallows. Anyone who says he doesn’t deserve credit is doing so because they are unable to come down from their tower.",
">\n\nThe problem with giving Pence too much credit is that it glosses over the fact that, prior to January 6th, Pence was trying really hard to do what Trump wanted. He was looking for any legal justification to not certify the election and was even entertaining the idea without one.\nIt's like giving someone a pat on the back for finally doing the right thing after they knowingly did the wrong thing.\nIn addition, that moment of courage by Pence gets completely washed away by his intransigence to comply with the investigation. All he cares about is his political ambitions.",
">\n\nMaybe so. But history will be written with Pence as a hero and that’s okay with me.",
">\n\nAnd cassidy Hutchinson should be. My original point. Yea, his co pilot through this entire shit show is a hero for doing his job. I don't feel bad for the situation they got themselves into. There were more than enough warning signs leading allll the way up to this day.",
">\n\nWelp... That's obstruction / destruction of evidence.",
">\n\nFor all the security cameras in public places you'd think we'd also have them for public offices.",
">\n\nThe difference is the people making those decisions are in the offices.",
">\n\nIt's probably more effective than flushing them.",
">\n\nOr eating them",
">\n\nOr stealing them.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 65%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nFormer Trump White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson indicated Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, burned documents in his fireplace roughly a dozen times in the final weeks of the administration, according to newly released transcripts of her House Jan. 6 committee depositions.\n\"The Presidential Records Act only asks that you keep the original copy of a document. So, yes,\" Hutchinson said when asked if she saw Meadows use the fireplace to burn documents.\n\"I know maybe three or four times - between two and four times, he had Mr. Perry in his office right before,\" Hutchinson told the committee, although she cautioned that she did not know what documents were burned.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Hutchinson^#1 Meadows^#2 burn^#3 document^#4 fireplace^#5",
">\n\nMerrick, you're up dude, jesus.",
">\n\nabdicated to jack smith to maintain independence so that the criminal process itself cannot be attacked to avoid justice.",
">\n\nthat was locker room destruction of government property. also trump has complete immunity. ALSO (somehow) he did nothing wrong.",
">\n\nI would assume that any document given to Mark Meadows was printed off and must be on a hard drive somewhere right? It's not the olden days when records were stored only on paper. So why was MM burning them?",
">\n\nHandwritten memos, received old school faxes, typewritten single copies. \nAlthough I did buy a used fax machine years ago that came from a gov’t office and stored on the carbon roll were months of a provincial cabinet minister’s outgoing communications.",
">\n\nShe’s very brave and I hope she can continue speaking truth to this national embarrassment",
">\n\nThis seems rather early 20th century don't you think? Republicans......ever behind the times. LOL.",
">\n\nTruly the Internet Explorer of political parties.",
">\n\nThe political party of AOL dialup.",
">\n\nBrought to you by Carl’s Jr.",
">\n\nWelcome to Costco, I love you",
">\n\nArrest the shitstain and his boss already DOJ.",
">\n\nSo no one is going to prison for this presidential crime spree? Really??",
">\n\nFun little felony.",
">\n\nPence only did the right thing because after talking to his lawyers, he realized he would be on legal trouble. He only did it for his own a**",
">\n\nAND after talking with Dan Quayle, checking if there was anything Pence could legally do to stop the certification.",
">\n\nBut what about Hillary’s emails ?",
">\n\nShe was the one who basically lied about the limo issue, right?\nJust checking.",
">\n\nWho else does stuff like this? Wait... I know... Don't tell me...\nOh! The Nazis! They did stuff like this.",
">\n\nArrest him?",
">\n\nThat whole “her email” and “her server” was literally a distraction.",
">\n\nWow. I can’t wait for something to be done about this. /s",
">\n\nThis is not at all surprising. Piece of shit doing piece of shit things.",
">\n\nMeadows was part of the planners for the J6 riots. He better start cooperating before he is sentenced to decades in prison.",
">\n\nWhen do we start injecting these crooks with Sodium Pentothal?",
">\n\nPut Meadows in jail already",
">\n\nNohing will happen.",
">\n\nCool, can't wait for the DOJ to continue to do nothing.",
">\n\nPence should have been a Leader and not a Denier, if he had half the spine Cassy has, he would be the leading 2024 GOP nominee!!!",
">\n\nOh I’m sure they’re still on somebody’s hard-drive or email server somewhere. Burning docs doesn’t clear things up in today’s world.",
">\n\nThere’s no evidence. It’s just her statement. She could be saying all these things bc she don’t like trump like most of you. Ya was okay with twitter censorship. Maybe Twitter ceo with most of its employees should be in jail for censoring and interfering in the election.",
">\n\nOh no. The guy who helped plan a coup burned some documents. Whatever will we do.",
">\n\nis this the same lady that saying what happened in the limo but wasnt even in the limo?",
">\n\nIf it turns out to be true, its bad and there should be consequences though - right?",
">\n\n“once they turned his office fireplace in December 2020”\nDoes anyone copy edit this stuff? What the hell is this supposed to mean?",
">\n\nCryin’ Mark Meadows",
">\n\nThat’s what no heat gets you. Burned up criminal conspiracy documents.",
">\n\nOf course he did 🙄"
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Seems like a totally normal procedure. Nothing suspicious here! /s
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[
"It's only clear if one can prove they were originals, not copies. I'm all for holding them accountable but you toss the baby out with the bath water. Be rational and logical.",
">\n\nI’m sure they brunt copies because that’s what you do with incriminating evidence copy it and burn the copies. Jesus man.",
">\n\nI'm just saying... rationally speaking, if you can't prove they were original documents, you cannot jump straight to \"yep that's it, hang em\". Are the odds good that they were originals? I'd say yes, but you have to prove it.",
">\n\nHe was a participant in a criminal conspiracy and he burned documents I would vote to convict.",
">\n\nWithout evidence? What you mentioned is circumstantial. If you're willing to convict someone of a specific crime without specific evidence to back it up, you're no better than they are. You would be acting on emotion and bias rather than evidence and proof. This is how lots of people end up locked up who are actually innocent of the crime in question because they are judged based on other behavior. That is not justice served.",
">\n\nIf you provably conspired to murder someone provably and we find human blood stains on your rug its ok to consider it further proof of the same crime we already proved. \nThere is ample evidence of the criminal conspiracy. There is no motivation in any possible universe where someone guilty of criminal conspiracy burns government documents and we believe that the governments were copies.\nPlease note the word reasonable in reasonable doubt.",
">\n\n\nprovably\n\nTherein lies the problem",
">\n\nWe have ample evidence of conspiracy to subvert democracy",
">\n\nThat's not what's being discussed. We're talking about Meadows burning documents.",
">\n\nLock him up.",
">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off",
">\n\nGuys can't even courtesy flush because by the time they finally get that beefroll down the hatch, it's too late--the stink is everywhere by then. Not me, of course. But Bubba, next cell over--hooWEE! Let me tell you folks, it's true. This is America, can you believe it? Maybe it's fine in Gynna. Their poops are smaller, I guess. Short little people over there. Little people, little poops. And I don't like how you have to pull down the jumpsuit to drop a deuce, either. Everyone says I wear it well, though--the warden, the CO's. No one has ever looked more presidential in a jumpsuit, they say.",
">\n\nThis women deserves the credit mike pence is getting",
">\n\nIt’s really annoying that Mike Pence keeps getting any credit for anything. He showed he had a spine on the one day it matters, and then keeps trying to play the “we just need to put this behind us and focus on the “real”* issues”. Again, Mike Pence did the only thing that mattered of him on Jan 6, good. I’m glad he was there and did that.\nIt doesnt make him a good person. It doesnt make him smart. And without verbally attacking the person who sent a far right mob to kill him, he is fine with his life being put in danger for “owning the libs”. What a spineless piece of shit.\n*real meaning anything I can make up that forces democrats to react to, and usually it has nothing to do with true policy.",
">\n\nEh, you guys are just struggling to give credit where credit is due because of the R next to his name and disagreements on previous policies. Call a spade a spade, the man made a hard decision for the moment and he should be honored for it just like those that voted not to impeach Andrew Johnson in the 1860s and others that came before us who stood to keep our country hole.",
">\n\nIt’s honestly a question of if you think certifying votes should qualify as job done. I’d argue that when you see, firsthand, a fundamental threat to our democracy as the second in command you are duty bound to do more than turn the page.",
">\n\nI agree completely. I’d just like to push back that it’s a lot easier to say this on a Reddit thread than with 60,000 people screaming hang Mike Pence on your front door from constructed gallows. Anyone who says he doesn’t deserve credit is doing so because they are unable to come down from their tower.",
">\n\nThe problem with giving Pence too much credit is that it glosses over the fact that, prior to January 6th, Pence was trying really hard to do what Trump wanted. He was looking for any legal justification to not certify the election and was even entertaining the idea without one.\nIt's like giving someone a pat on the back for finally doing the right thing after they knowingly did the wrong thing.\nIn addition, that moment of courage by Pence gets completely washed away by his intransigence to comply with the investigation. All he cares about is his political ambitions.",
">\n\nMaybe so. But history will be written with Pence as a hero and that’s okay with me.",
">\n\nAnd cassidy Hutchinson should be. My original point. Yea, his co pilot through this entire shit show is a hero for doing his job. I don't feel bad for the situation they got themselves into. There were more than enough warning signs leading allll the way up to this day.",
">\n\nWelp... That's obstruction / destruction of evidence.",
">\n\nFor all the security cameras in public places you'd think we'd also have them for public offices.",
">\n\nThe difference is the people making those decisions are in the offices.",
">\n\nIt's probably more effective than flushing them.",
">\n\nOr eating them",
">\n\nOr stealing them.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 65%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nFormer Trump White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson indicated Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, burned documents in his fireplace roughly a dozen times in the final weeks of the administration, according to newly released transcripts of her House Jan. 6 committee depositions.\n\"The Presidential Records Act only asks that you keep the original copy of a document. So, yes,\" Hutchinson said when asked if she saw Meadows use the fireplace to burn documents.\n\"I know maybe three or four times - between two and four times, he had Mr. Perry in his office right before,\" Hutchinson told the committee, although she cautioned that she did not know what documents were burned.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Hutchinson^#1 Meadows^#2 burn^#3 document^#4 fireplace^#5",
">\n\nMerrick, you're up dude, jesus.",
">\n\nabdicated to jack smith to maintain independence so that the criminal process itself cannot be attacked to avoid justice.",
">\n\nthat was locker room destruction of government property. also trump has complete immunity. ALSO (somehow) he did nothing wrong.",
">\n\nI would assume that any document given to Mark Meadows was printed off and must be on a hard drive somewhere right? It's not the olden days when records were stored only on paper. So why was MM burning them?",
">\n\nHandwritten memos, received old school faxes, typewritten single copies. \nAlthough I did buy a used fax machine years ago that came from a gov’t office and stored on the carbon roll were months of a provincial cabinet minister’s outgoing communications.",
">\n\nShe’s very brave and I hope she can continue speaking truth to this national embarrassment",
">\n\nThis seems rather early 20th century don't you think? Republicans......ever behind the times. LOL.",
">\n\nTruly the Internet Explorer of political parties.",
">\n\nThe political party of AOL dialup.",
">\n\nBrought to you by Carl’s Jr.",
">\n\nWelcome to Costco, I love you",
">\n\nArrest the shitstain and his boss already DOJ.",
">\n\nSo no one is going to prison for this presidential crime spree? Really??",
">\n\nFun little felony.",
">\n\nPence only did the right thing because after talking to his lawyers, he realized he would be on legal trouble. He only did it for his own a**",
">\n\nAND after talking with Dan Quayle, checking if there was anything Pence could legally do to stop the certification.",
">\n\nBut what about Hillary’s emails ?",
">\n\nShe was the one who basically lied about the limo issue, right?\nJust checking.",
">\n\nWho else does stuff like this? Wait... I know... Don't tell me...\nOh! The Nazis! They did stuff like this.",
">\n\nArrest him?",
">\n\nThat whole “her email” and “her server” was literally a distraction.",
">\n\nWow. I can’t wait for something to be done about this. /s",
">\n\nThis is not at all surprising. Piece of shit doing piece of shit things.",
">\n\nMeadows was part of the planners for the J6 riots. He better start cooperating before he is sentenced to decades in prison.",
">\n\nWhen do we start injecting these crooks with Sodium Pentothal?",
">\n\nPut Meadows in jail already",
">\n\nNohing will happen.",
">\n\nCool, can't wait for the DOJ to continue to do nothing.",
">\n\nPence should have been a Leader and not a Denier, if he had half the spine Cassy has, he would be the leading 2024 GOP nominee!!!",
">\n\nOh I’m sure they’re still on somebody’s hard-drive or email server somewhere. Burning docs doesn’t clear things up in today’s world.",
">\n\nThere’s no evidence. It’s just her statement. She could be saying all these things bc she don’t like trump like most of you. Ya was okay with twitter censorship. Maybe Twitter ceo with most of its employees should be in jail for censoring and interfering in the election.",
">\n\nOh no. The guy who helped plan a coup burned some documents. Whatever will we do.",
">\n\nis this the same lady that saying what happened in the limo but wasnt even in the limo?",
">\n\nIf it turns out to be true, its bad and there should be consequences though - right?",
">\n\n“once they turned his office fireplace in December 2020”\nDoes anyone copy edit this stuff? What the hell is this supposed to mean?",
">\n\nCryin’ Mark Meadows",
">\n\nThat’s what no heat gets you. Burned up criminal conspiracy documents.",
">\n\nOf course he did 🙄",
">\n\nWell he has a foot above Trump. He burned documents instead of trying to flush them down the toilet."
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Treason plans?
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[
"It's only clear if one can prove they were originals, not copies. I'm all for holding them accountable but you toss the baby out with the bath water. Be rational and logical.",
">\n\nI’m sure they brunt copies because that’s what you do with incriminating evidence copy it and burn the copies. Jesus man.",
">\n\nI'm just saying... rationally speaking, if you can't prove they were original documents, you cannot jump straight to \"yep that's it, hang em\". Are the odds good that they were originals? I'd say yes, but you have to prove it.",
">\n\nHe was a participant in a criminal conspiracy and he burned documents I would vote to convict.",
">\n\nWithout evidence? What you mentioned is circumstantial. If you're willing to convict someone of a specific crime without specific evidence to back it up, you're no better than they are. You would be acting on emotion and bias rather than evidence and proof. This is how lots of people end up locked up who are actually innocent of the crime in question because they are judged based on other behavior. That is not justice served.",
">\n\nIf you provably conspired to murder someone provably and we find human blood stains on your rug its ok to consider it further proof of the same crime we already proved. \nThere is ample evidence of the criminal conspiracy. There is no motivation in any possible universe where someone guilty of criminal conspiracy burns government documents and we believe that the governments were copies.\nPlease note the word reasonable in reasonable doubt.",
">\n\n\nprovably\n\nTherein lies the problem",
">\n\nWe have ample evidence of conspiracy to subvert democracy",
">\n\nThat's not what's being discussed. We're talking about Meadows burning documents.",
">\n\nLock him up.",
">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off",
">\n\nGuys can't even courtesy flush because by the time they finally get that beefroll down the hatch, it's too late--the stink is everywhere by then. Not me, of course. But Bubba, next cell over--hooWEE! Let me tell you folks, it's true. This is America, can you believe it? Maybe it's fine in Gynna. Their poops are smaller, I guess. Short little people over there. Little people, little poops. And I don't like how you have to pull down the jumpsuit to drop a deuce, either. Everyone says I wear it well, though--the warden, the CO's. No one has ever looked more presidential in a jumpsuit, they say.",
">\n\nThis women deserves the credit mike pence is getting",
">\n\nIt’s really annoying that Mike Pence keeps getting any credit for anything. He showed he had a spine on the one day it matters, and then keeps trying to play the “we just need to put this behind us and focus on the “real”* issues”. Again, Mike Pence did the only thing that mattered of him on Jan 6, good. I’m glad he was there and did that.\nIt doesnt make him a good person. It doesnt make him smart. And without verbally attacking the person who sent a far right mob to kill him, he is fine with his life being put in danger for “owning the libs”. What a spineless piece of shit.\n*real meaning anything I can make up that forces democrats to react to, and usually it has nothing to do with true policy.",
">\n\nEh, you guys are just struggling to give credit where credit is due because of the R next to his name and disagreements on previous policies. Call a spade a spade, the man made a hard decision for the moment and he should be honored for it just like those that voted not to impeach Andrew Johnson in the 1860s and others that came before us who stood to keep our country hole.",
">\n\nIt’s honestly a question of if you think certifying votes should qualify as job done. I’d argue that when you see, firsthand, a fundamental threat to our democracy as the second in command you are duty bound to do more than turn the page.",
">\n\nI agree completely. I’d just like to push back that it’s a lot easier to say this on a Reddit thread than with 60,000 people screaming hang Mike Pence on your front door from constructed gallows. Anyone who says he doesn’t deserve credit is doing so because they are unable to come down from their tower.",
">\n\nThe problem with giving Pence too much credit is that it glosses over the fact that, prior to January 6th, Pence was trying really hard to do what Trump wanted. He was looking for any legal justification to not certify the election and was even entertaining the idea without one.\nIt's like giving someone a pat on the back for finally doing the right thing after they knowingly did the wrong thing.\nIn addition, that moment of courage by Pence gets completely washed away by his intransigence to comply with the investigation. All he cares about is his political ambitions.",
">\n\nMaybe so. But history will be written with Pence as a hero and that’s okay with me.",
">\n\nAnd cassidy Hutchinson should be. My original point. Yea, his co pilot through this entire shit show is a hero for doing his job. I don't feel bad for the situation they got themselves into. There were more than enough warning signs leading allll the way up to this day.",
">\n\nWelp... That's obstruction / destruction of evidence.",
">\n\nFor all the security cameras in public places you'd think we'd also have them for public offices.",
">\n\nThe difference is the people making those decisions are in the offices.",
">\n\nIt's probably more effective than flushing them.",
">\n\nOr eating them",
">\n\nOr stealing them.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 65%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nFormer Trump White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson indicated Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, burned documents in his fireplace roughly a dozen times in the final weeks of the administration, according to newly released transcripts of her House Jan. 6 committee depositions.\n\"The Presidential Records Act only asks that you keep the original copy of a document. So, yes,\" Hutchinson said when asked if she saw Meadows use the fireplace to burn documents.\n\"I know maybe three or four times - between two and four times, he had Mr. Perry in his office right before,\" Hutchinson told the committee, although she cautioned that she did not know what documents were burned.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Hutchinson^#1 Meadows^#2 burn^#3 document^#4 fireplace^#5",
">\n\nMerrick, you're up dude, jesus.",
">\n\nabdicated to jack smith to maintain independence so that the criminal process itself cannot be attacked to avoid justice.",
">\n\nthat was locker room destruction of government property. also trump has complete immunity. ALSO (somehow) he did nothing wrong.",
">\n\nI would assume that any document given to Mark Meadows was printed off and must be on a hard drive somewhere right? It's not the olden days when records were stored only on paper. So why was MM burning them?",
">\n\nHandwritten memos, received old school faxes, typewritten single copies. \nAlthough I did buy a used fax machine years ago that came from a gov’t office and stored on the carbon roll were months of a provincial cabinet minister’s outgoing communications.",
">\n\nShe’s very brave and I hope she can continue speaking truth to this national embarrassment",
">\n\nThis seems rather early 20th century don't you think? Republicans......ever behind the times. LOL.",
">\n\nTruly the Internet Explorer of political parties.",
">\n\nThe political party of AOL dialup.",
">\n\nBrought to you by Carl’s Jr.",
">\n\nWelcome to Costco, I love you",
">\n\nArrest the shitstain and his boss already DOJ.",
">\n\nSo no one is going to prison for this presidential crime spree? Really??",
">\n\nFun little felony.",
">\n\nPence only did the right thing because after talking to his lawyers, he realized he would be on legal trouble. He only did it for his own a**",
">\n\nAND after talking with Dan Quayle, checking if there was anything Pence could legally do to stop the certification.",
">\n\nBut what about Hillary’s emails ?",
">\n\nShe was the one who basically lied about the limo issue, right?\nJust checking.",
">\n\nWho else does stuff like this? Wait... I know... Don't tell me...\nOh! The Nazis! They did stuff like this.",
">\n\nArrest him?",
">\n\nThat whole “her email” and “her server” was literally a distraction.",
">\n\nWow. I can’t wait for something to be done about this. /s",
">\n\nThis is not at all surprising. Piece of shit doing piece of shit things.",
">\n\nMeadows was part of the planners for the J6 riots. He better start cooperating before he is sentenced to decades in prison.",
">\n\nWhen do we start injecting these crooks with Sodium Pentothal?",
">\n\nPut Meadows in jail already",
">\n\nNohing will happen.",
">\n\nCool, can't wait for the DOJ to continue to do nothing.",
">\n\nPence should have been a Leader and not a Denier, if he had half the spine Cassy has, he would be the leading 2024 GOP nominee!!!",
">\n\nOh I’m sure they’re still on somebody’s hard-drive or email server somewhere. Burning docs doesn’t clear things up in today’s world.",
">\n\nThere’s no evidence. It’s just her statement. She could be saying all these things bc she don’t like trump like most of you. Ya was okay with twitter censorship. Maybe Twitter ceo with most of its employees should be in jail for censoring and interfering in the election.",
">\n\nOh no. The guy who helped plan a coup burned some documents. Whatever will we do.",
">\n\nis this the same lady that saying what happened in the limo but wasnt even in the limo?",
">\n\nIf it turns out to be true, its bad and there should be consequences though - right?",
">\n\n“once they turned his office fireplace in December 2020”\nDoes anyone copy edit this stuff? What the hell is this supposed to mean?",
">\n\nCryin’ Mark Meadows",
">\n\nThat’s what no heat gets you. Burned up criminal conspiracy documents.",
">\n\nOf course he did 🙄",
">\n\nWell he has a foot above Trump. He burned documents instead of trying to flush them down the toilet.",
">\n\nSeems like a totally normal procedure. Nothing suspicious here! /s"
] |
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Burning documents feels like a cartoon move. Like something Peter Griffin would literally do if he was going to get in trouble. Do these folks not realize there is an electronic version of whatever they burn?
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[
"It's only clear if one can prove they were originals, not copies. I'm all for holding them accountable but you toss the baby out with the bath water. Be rational and logical.",
">\n\nI’m sure they brunt copies because that’s what you do with incriminating evidence copy it and burn the copies. Jesus man.",
">\n\nI'm just saying... rationally speaking, if you can't prove they were original documents, you cannot jump straight to \"yep that's it, hang em\". Are the odds good that they were originals? I'd say yes, but you have to prove it.",
">\n\nHe was a participant in a criminal conspiracy and he burned documents I would vote to convict.",
">\n\nWithout evidence? What you mentioned is circumstantial. If you're willing to convict someone of a specific crime without specific evidence to back it up, you're no better than they are. You would be acting on emotion and bias rather than evidence and proof. This is how lots of people end up locked up who are actually innocent of the crime in question because they are judged based on other behavior. That is not justice served.",
">\n\nIf you provably conspired to murder someone provably and we find human blood stains on your rug its ok to consider it further proof of the same crime we already proved. \nThere is ample evidence of the criminal conspiracy. There is no motivation in any possible universe where someone guilty of criminal conspiracy burns government documents and we believe that the governments were copies.\nPlease note the word reasonable in reasonable doubt.",
">\n\n\nprovably\n\nTherein lies the problem",
">\n\nWe have ample evidence of conspiracy to subvert democracy",
">\n\nThat's not what's being discussed. We're talking about Meadows burning documents.",
">\n\nLock him up.",
">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off",
">\n\nGuys can't even courtesy flush because by the time they finally get that beefroll down the hatch, it's too late--the stink is everywhere by then. Not me, of course. But Bubba, next cell over--hooWEE! Let me tell you folks, it's true. This is America, can you believe it? Maybe it's fine in Gynna. Their poops are smaller, I guess. Short little people over there. Little people, little poops. And I don't like how you have to pull down the jumpsuit to drop a deuce, either. Everyone says I wear it well, though--the warden, the CO's. No one has ever looked more presidential in a jumpsuit, they say.",
">\n\nThis women deserves the credit mike pence is getting",
">\n\nIt’s really annoying that Mike Pence keeps getting any credit for anything. He showed he had a spine on the one day it matters, and then keeps trying to play the “we just need to put this behind us and focus on the “real”* issues”. Again, Mike Pence did the only thing that mattered of him on Jan 6, good. I’m glad he was there and did that.\nIt doesnt make him a good person. It doesnt make him smart. And without verbally attacking the person who sent a far right mob to kill him, he is fine with his life being put in danger for “owning the libs”. What a spineless piece of shit.\n*real meaning anything I can make up that forces democrats to react to, and usually it has nothing to do with true policy.",
">\n\nEh, you guys are just struggling to give credit where credit is due because of the R next to his name and disagreements on previous policies. Call a spade a spade, the man made a hard decision for the moment and he should be honored for it just like those that voted not to impeach Andrew Johnson in the 1860s and others that came before us who stood to keep our country hole.",
">\n\nIt’s honestly a question of if you think certifying votes should qualify as job done. I’d argue that when you see, firsthand, a fundamental threat to our democracy as the second in command you are duty bound to do more than turn the page.",
">\n\nI agree completely. I’d just like to push back that it’s a lot easier to say this on a Reddit thread than with 60,000 people screaming hang Mike Pence on your front door from constructed gallows. Anyone who says he doesn’t deserve credit is doing so because they are unable to come down from their tower.",
">\n\nThe problem with giving Pence too much credit is that it glosses over the fact that, prior to January 6th, Pence was trying really hard to do what Trump wanted. He was looking for any legal justification to not certify the election and was even entertaining the idea without one.\nIt's like giving someone a pat on the back for finally doing the right thing after they knowingly did the wrong thing.\nIn addition, that moment of courage by Pence gets completely washed away by his intransigence to comply with the investigation. All he cares about is his political ambitions.",
">\n\nMaybe so. But history will be written with Pence as a hero and that’s okay with me.",
">\n\nAnd cassidy Hutchinson should be. My original point. Yea, his co pilot through this entire shit show is a hero for doing his job. I don't feel bad for the situation they got themselves into. There were more than enough warning signs leading allll the way up to this day.",
">\n\nWelp... That's obstruction / destruction of evidence.",
">\n\nFor all the security cameras in public places you'd think we'd also have them for public offices.",
">\n\nThe difference is the people making those decisions are in the offices.",
">\n\nIt's probably more effective than flushing them.",
">\n\nOr eating them",
">\n\nOr stealing them.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 65%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nFormer Trump White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson indicated Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, burned documents in his fireplace roughly a dozen times in the final weeks of the administration, according to newly released transcripts of her House Jan. 6 committee depositions.\n\"The Presidential Records Act only asks that you keep the original copy of a document. So, yes,\" Hutchinson said when asked if she saw Meadows use the fireplace to burn documents.\n\"I know maybe three or four times - between two and four times, he had Mr. Perry in his office right before,\" Hutchinson told the committee, although she cautioned that she did not know what documents were burned.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Hutchinson^#1 Meadows^#2 burn^#3 document^#4 fireplace^#5",
">\n\nMerrick, you're up dude, jesus.",
">\n\nabdicated to jack smith to maintain independence so that the criminal process itself cannot be attacked to avoid justice.",
">\n\nthat was locker room destruction of government property. also trump has complete immunity. ALSO (somehow) he did nothing wrong.",
">\n\nI would assume that any document given to Mark Meadows was printed off and must be on a hard drive somewhere right? It's not the olden days when records were stored only on paper. So why was MM burning them?",
">\n\nHandwritten memos, received old school faxes, typewritten single copies. \nAlthough I did buy a used fax machine years ago that came from a gov’t office and stored on the carbon roll were months of a provincial cabinet minister’s outgoing communications.",
">\n\nShe’s very brave and I hope she can continue speaking truth to this national embarrassment",
">\n\nThis seems rather early 20th century don't you think? Republicans......ever behind the times. LOL.",
">\n\nTruly the Internet Explorer of political parties.",
">\n\nThe political party of AOL dialup.",
">\n\nBrought to you by Carl’s Jr.",
">\n\nWelcome to Costco, I love you",
">\n\nArrest the shitstain and his boss already DOJ.",
">\n\nSo no one is going to prison for this presidential crime spree? Really??",
">\n\nFun little felony.",
">\n\nPence only did the right thing because after talking to his lawyers, he realized he would be on legal trouble. He only did it for his own a**",
">\n\nAND after talking with Dan Quayle, checking if there was anything Pence could legally do to stop the certification.",
">\n\nBut what about Hillary’s emails ?",
">\n\nShe was the one who basically lied about the limo issue, right?\nJust checking.",
">\n\nWho else does stuff like this? Wait... I know... Don't tell me...\nOh! The Nazis! They did stuff like this.",
">\n\nArrest him?",
">\n\nThat whole “her email” and “her server” was literally a distraction.",
">\n\nWow. I can’t wait for something to be done about this. /s",
">\n\nThis is not at all surprising. Piece of shit doing piece of shit things.",
">\n\nMeadows was part of the planners for the J6 riots. He better start cooperating before he is sentenced to decades in prison.",
">\n\nWhen do we start injecting these crooks with Sodium Pentothal?",
">\n\nPut Meadows in jail already",
">\n\nNohing will happen.",
">\n\nCool, can't wait for the DOJ to continue to do nothing.",
">\n\nPence should have been a Leader and not a Denier, if he had half the spine Cassy has, he would be the leading 2024 GOP nominee!!!",
">\n\nOh I’m sure they’re still on somebody’s hard-drive or email server somewhere. Burning docs doesn’t clear things up in today’s world.",
">\n\nThere’s no evidence. It’s just her statement. She could be saying all these things bc she don’t like trump like most of you. Ya was okay with twitter censorship. Maybe Twitter ceo with most of its employees should be in jail for censoring and interfering in the election.",
">\n\nOh no. The guy who helped plan a coup burned some documents. Whatever will we do.",
">\n\nis this the same lady that saying what happened in the limo but wasnt even in the limo?",
">\n\nIf it turns out to be true, its bad and there should be consequences though - right?",
">\n\n“once they turned his office fireplace in December 2020”\nDoes anyone copy edit this stuff? What the hell is this supposed to mean?",
">\n\nCryin’ Mark Meadows",
">\n\nThat’s what no heat gets you. Burned up criminal conspiracy documents.",
">\n\nOf course he did 🙄",
">\n\nWell he has a foot above Trump. He burned documents instead of trying to flush them down the toilet.",
">\n\nSeems like a totally normal procedure. Nothing suspicious here! /s",
">\n\nTreason plans?"
] |
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I never thought about fireplaces in the White House. Basically every president has had a document incinerator right there in the building, just steps away and it would never be weird for it to be running. 🤔
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[
"It's only clear if one can prove they were originals, not copies. I'm all for holding them accountable but you toss the baby out with the bath water. Be rational and logical.",
">\n\nI’m sure they brunt copies because that’s what you do with incriminating evidence copy it and burn the copies. Jesus man.",
">\n\nI'm just saying... rationally speaking, if you can't prove they were original documents, you cannot jump straight to \"yep that's it, hang em\". Are the odds good that they were originals? I'd say yes, but you have to prove it.",
">\n\nHe was a participant in a criminal conspiracy and he burned documents I would vote to convict.",
">\n\nWithout evidence? What you mentioned is circumstantial. If you're willing to convict someone of a specific crime without specific evidence to back it up, you're no better than they are. You would be acting on emotion and bias rather than evidence and proof. This is how lots of people end up locked up who are actually innocent of the crime in question because they are judged based on other behavior. That is not justice served.",
">\n\nIf you provably conspired to murder someone provably and we find human blood stains on your rug its ok to consider it further proof of the same crime we already proved. \nThere is ample evidence of the criminal conspiracy. There is no motivation in any possible universe where someone guilty of criminal conspiracy burns government documents and we believe that the governments were copies.\nPlease note the word reasonable in reasonable doubt.",
">\n\n\nprovably\n\nTherein lies the problem",
">\n\nWe have ample evidence of conspiracy to subvert democracy",
">\n\nThat's not what's being discussed. We're talking about Meadows burning documents.",
">\n\nLock him up.",
">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off",
">\n\nGuys can't even courtesy flush because by the time they finally get that beefroll down the hatch, it's too late--the stink is everywhere by then. Not me, of course. But Bubba, next cell over--hooWEE! Let me tell you folks, it's true. This is America, can you believe it? Maybe it's fine in Gynna. Their poops are smaller, I guess. Short little people over there. Little people, little poops. And I don't like how you have to pull down the jumpsuit to drop a deuce, either. Everyone says I wear it well, though--the warden, the CO's. No one has ever looked more presidential in a jumpsuit, they say.",
">\n\nThis women deserves the credit mike pence is getting",
">\n\nIt’s really annoying that Mike Pence keeps getting any credit for anything. He showed he had a spine on the one day it matters, and then keeps trying to play the “we just need to put this behind us and focus on the “real”* issues”. Again, Mike Pence did the only thing that mattered of him on Jan 6, good. I’m glad he was there and did that.\nIt doesnt make him a good person. It doesnt make him smart. And without verbally attacking the person who sent a far right mob to kill him, he is fine with his life being put in danger for “owning the libs”. What a spineless piece of shit.\n*real meaning anything I can make up that forces democrats to react to, and usually it has nothing to do with true policy.",
">\n\nEh, you guys are just struggling to give credit where credit is due because of the R next to his name and disagreements on previous policies. Call a spade a spade, the man made a hard decision for the moment and he should be honored for it just like those that voted not to impeach Andrew Johnson in the 1860s and others that came before us who stood to keep our country hole.",
">\n\nIt’s honestly a question of if you think certifying votes should qualify as job done. I’d argue that when you see, firsthand, a fundamental threat to our democracy as the second in command you are duty bound to do more than turn the page.",
">\n\nI agree completely. I’d just like to push back that it’s a lot easier to say this on a Reddit thread than with 60,000 people screaming hang Mike Pence on your front door from constructed gallows. Anyone who says he doesn’t deserve credit is doing so because they are unable to come down from their tower.",
">\n\nThe problem with giving Pence too much credit is that it glosses over the fact that, prior to January 6th, Pence was trying really hard to do what Trump wanted. He was looking for any legal justification to not certify the election and was even entertaining the idea without one.\nIt's like giving someone a pat on the back for finally doing the right thing after they knowingly did the wrong thing.\nIn addition, that moment of courage by Pence gets completely washed away by his intransigence to comply with the investigation. All he cares about is his political ambitions.",
">\n\nMaybe so. But history will be written with Pence as a hero and that’s okay with me.",
">\n\nAnd cassidy Hutchinson should be. My original point. Yea, his co pilot through this entire shit show is a hero for doing his job. I don't feel bad for the situation they got themselves into. There were more than enough warning signs leading allll the way up to this day.",
">\n\nWelp... That's obstruction / destruction of evidence.",
">\n\nFor all the security cameras in public places you'd think we'd also have them for public offices.",
">\n\nThe difference is the people making those decisions are in the offices.",
">\n\nIt's probably more effective than flushing them.",
">\n\nOr eating them",
">\n\nOr stealing them.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 65%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nFormer Trump White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson indicated Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, burned documents in his fireplace roughly a dozen times in the final weeks of the administration, according to newly released transcripts of her House Jan. 6 committee depositions.\n\"The Presidential Records Act only asks that you keep the original copy of a document. So, yes,\" Hutchinson said when asked if she saw Meadows use the fireplace to burn documents.\n\"I know maybe three or four times - between two and four times, he had Mr. Perry in his office right before,\" Hutchinson told the committee, although she cautioned that she did not know what documents were burned.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Hutchinson^#1 Meadows^#2 burn^#3 document^#4 fireplace^#5",
">\n\nMerrick, you're up dude, jesus.",
">\n\nabdicated to jack smith to maintain independence so that the criminal process itself cannot be attacked to avoid justice.",
">\n\nthat was locker room destruction of government property. also trump has complete immunity. ALSO (somehow) he did nothing wrong.",
">\n\nI would assume that any document given to Mark Meadows was printed off and must be on a hard drive somewhere right? It's not the olden days when records were stored only on paper. So why was MM burning them?",
">\n\nHandwritten memos, received old school faxes, typewritten single copies. \nAlthough I did buy a used fax machine years ago that came from a gov’t office and stored on the carbon roll were months of a provincial cabinet minister’s outgoing communications.",
">\n\nShe’s very brave and I hope she can continue speaking truth to this national embarrassment",
">\n\nThis seems rather early 20th century don't you think? Republicans......ever behind the times. LOL.",
">\n\nTruly the Internet Explorer of political parties.",
">\n\nThe political party of AOL dialup.",
">\n\nBrought to you by Carl’s Jr.",
">\n\nWelcome to Costco, I love you",
">\n\nArrest the shitstain and his boss already DOJ.",
">\n\nSo no one is going to prison for this presidential crime spree? Really??",
">\n\nFun little felony.",
">\n\nPence only did the right thing because after talking to his lawyers, he realized he would be on legal trouble. He only did it for his own a**",
">\n\nAND after talking with Dan Quayle, checking if there was anything Pence could legally do to stop the certification.",
">\n\nBut what about Hillary’s emails ?",
">\n\nShe was the one who basically lied about the limo issue, right?\nJust checking.",
">\n\nWho else does stuff like this? Wait... I know... Don't tell me...\nOh! The Nazis! They did stuff like this.",
">\n\nArrest him?",
">\n\nThat whole “her email” and “her server” was literally a distraction.",
">\n\nWow. I can’t wait for something to be done about this. /s",
">\n\nThis is not at all surprising. Piece of shit doing piece of shit things.",
">\n\nMeadows was part of the planners for the J6 riots. He better start cooperating before he is sentenced to decades in prison.",
">\n\nWhen do we start injecting these crooks with Sodium Pentothal?",
">\n\nPut Meadows in jail already",
">\n\nNohing will happen.",
">\n\nCool, can't wait for the DOJ to continue to do nothing.",
">\n\nPence should have been a Leader and not a Denier, if he had half the spine Cassy has, he would be the leading 2024 GOP nominee!!!",
">\n\nOh I’m sure they’re still on somebody’s hard-drive or email server somewhere. Burning docs doesn’t clear things up in today’s world.",
">\n\nThere’s no evidence. It’s just her statement. She could be saying all these things bc she don’t like trump like most of you. Ya was okay with twitter censorship. Maybe Twitter ceo with most of its employees should be in jail for censoring and interfering in the election.",
">\n\nOh no. The guy who helped plan a coup burned some documents. Whatever will we do.",
">\n\nis this the same lady that saying what happened in the limo but wasnt even in the limo?",
">\n\nIf it turns out to be true, its bad and there should be consequences though - right?",
">\n\n“once they turned his office fireplace in December 2020”\nDoes anyone copy edit this stuff? What the hell is this supposed to mean?",
">\n\nCryin’ Mark Meadows",
">\n\nThat’s what no heat gets you. Burned up criminal conspiracy documents.",
">\n\nOf course he did 🙄",
">\n\nWell he has a foot above Trump. He burned documents instead of trying to flush them down the toilet.",
">\n\nSeems like a totally normal procedure. Nothing suspicious here! /s",
">\n\nTreason plans?",
">\n\nBurning documents feels like a cartoon move. Like something Peter Griffin would literally do if he was going to get in trouble. Do these folks not realize there is an electronic version of whatever they burn?"
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Damn, Nixon’s goons only shredded his docs. Meadows must of seen the scene in Batman returns, when The Penguin(Danny Devito) found all of Max Shrek’s documents in the sewer and tapped them all back together.
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[
"It's only clear if one can prove they were originals, not copies. I'm all for holding them accountable but you toss the baby out with the bath water. Be rational and logical.",
">\n\nI’m sure they brunt copies because that’s what you do with incriminating evidence copy it and burn the copies. Jesus man.",
">\n\nI'm just saying... rationally speaking, if you can't prove they were original documents, you cannot jump straight to \"yep that's it, hang em\". Are the odds good that they were originals? I'd say yes, but you have to prove it.",
">\n\nHe was a participant in a criminal conspiracy and he burned documents I would vote to convict.",
">\n\nWithout evidence? What you mentioned is circumstantial. If you're willing to convict someone of a specific crime without specific evidence to back it up, you're no better than they are. You would be acting on emotion and bias rather than evidence and proof. This is how lots of people end up locked up who are actually innocent of the crime in question because they are judged based on other behavior. That is not justice served.",
">\n\nIf you provably conspired to murder someone provably and we find human blood stains on your rug its ok to consider it further proof of the same crime we already proved. \nThere is ample evidence of the criminal conspiracy. There is no motivation in any possible universe where someone guilty of criminal conspiracy burns government documents and we believe that the governments were copies.\nPlease note the word reasonable in reasonable doubt.",
">\n\n\nprovably\n\nTherein lies the problem",
">\n\nWe have ample evidence of conspiracy to subvert democracy",
">\n\nThat's not what's being discussed. We're talking about Meadows burning documents.",
">\n\nLock him up.",
">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off",
">\n\nGuys can't even courtesy flush because by the time they finally get that beefroll down the hatch, it's too late--the stink is everywhere by then. Not me, of course. But Bubba, next cell over--hooWEE! Let me tell you folks, it's true. This is America, can you believe it? Maybe it's fine in Gynna. Their poops are smaller, I guess. Short little people over there. Little people, little poops. And I don't like how you have to pull down the jumpsuit to drop a deuce, either. Everyone says I wear it well, though--the warden, the CO's. No one has ever looked more presidential in a jumpsuit, they say.",
">\n\nThis women deserves the credit mike pence is getting",
">\n\nIt’s really annoying that Mike Pence keeps getting any credit for anything. He showed he had a spine on the one day it matters, and then keeps trying to play the “we just need to put this behind us and focus on the “real”* issues”. Again, Mike Pence did the only thing that mattered of him on Jan 6, good. I’m glad he was there and did that.\nIt doesnt make him a good person. It doesnt make him smart. And without verbally attacking the person who sent a far right mob to kill him, he is fine with his life being put in danger for “owning the libs”. What a spineless piece of shit.\n*real meaning anything I can make up that forces democrats to react to, and usually it has nothing to do with true policy.",
">\n\nEh, you guys are just struggling to give credit where credit is due because of the R next to his name and disagreements on previous policies. Call a spade a spade, the man made a hard decision for the moment and he should be honored for it just like those that voted not to impeach Andrew Johnson in the 1860s and others that came before us who stood to keep our country hole.",
">\n\nIt’s honestly a question of if you think certifying votes should qualify as job done. I’d argue that when you see, firsthand, a fundamental threat to our democracy as the second in command you are duty bound to do more than turn the page.",
">\n\nI agree completely. I’d just like to push back that it’s a lot easier to say this on a Reddit thread than with 60,000 people screaming hang Mike Pence on your front door from constructed gallows. Anyone who says he doesn’t deserve credit is doing so because they are unable to come down from their tower.",
">\n\nThe problem with giving Pence too much credit is that it glosses over the fact that, prior to January 6th, Pence was trying really hard to do what Trump wanted. He was looking for any legal justification to not certify the election and was even entertaining the idea without one.\nIt's like giving someone a pat on the back for finally doing the right thing after they knowingly did the wrong thing.\nIn addition, that moment of courage by Pence gets completely washed away by his intransigence to comply with the investigation. All he cares about is his political ambitions.",
">\n\nMaybe so. But history will be written with Pence as a hero and that’s okay with me.",
">\n\nAnd cassidy Hutchinson should be. My original point. Yea, his co pilot through this entire shit show is a hero for doing his job. I don't feel bad for the situation they got themselves into. There were more than enough warning signs leading allll the way up to this day.",
">\n\nWelp... That's obstruction / destruction of evidence.",
">\n\nFor all the security cameras in public places you'd think we'd also have them for public offices.",
">\n\nThe difference is the people making those decisions are in the offices.",
">\n\nIt's probably more effective than flushing them.",
">\n\nOr eating them",
">\n\nOr stealing them.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 65%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nFormer Trump White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson indicated Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, burned documents in his fireplace roughly a dozen times in the final weeks of the administration, according to newly released transcripts of her House Jan. 6 committee depositions.\n\"The Presidential Records Act only asks that you keep the original copy of a document. So, yes,\" Hutchinson said when asked if she saw Meadows use the fireplace to burn documents.\n\"I know maybe three or four times - between two and four times, he had Mr. Perry in his office right before,\" Hutchinson told the committee, although she cautioned that she did not know what documents were burned.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Hutchinson^#1 Meadows^#2 burn^#3 document^#4 fireplace^#5",
">\n\nMerrick, you're up dude, jesus.",
">\n\nabdicated to jack smith to maintain independence so that the criminal process itself cannot be attacked to avoid justice.",
">\n\nthat was locker room destruction of government property. also trump has complete immunity. ALSO (somehow) he did nothing wrong.",
">\n\nI would assume that any document given to Mark Meadows was printed off and must be on a hard drive somewhere right? It's not the olden days when records were stored only on paper. So why was MM burning them?",
">\n\nHandwritten memos, received old school faxes, typewritten single copies. \nAlthough I did buy a used fax machine years ago that came from a gov’t office and stored on the carbon roll were months of a provincial cabinet minister’s outgoing communications.",
">\n\nShe’s very brave and I hope she can continue speaking truth to this national embarrassment",
">\n\nThis seems rather early 20th century don't you think? Republicans......ever behind the times. LOL.",
">\n\nTruly the Internet Explorer of political parties.",
">\n\nThe political party of AOL dialup.",
">\n\nBrought to you by Carl’s Jr.",
">\n\nWelcome to Costco, I love you",
">\n\nArrest the shitstain and his boss already DOJ.",
">\n\nSo no one is going to prison for this presidential crime spree? Really??",
">\n\nFun little felony.",
">\n\nPence only did the right thing because after talking to his lawyers, he realized he would be on legal trouble. He only did it for his own a**",
">\n\nAND after talking with Dan Quayle, checking if there was anything Pence could legally do to stop the certification.",
">\n\nBut what about Hillary’s emails ?",
">\n\nShe was the one who basically lied about the limo issue, right?\nJust checking.",
">\n\nWho else does stuff like this? Wait... I know... Don't tell me...\nOh! The Nazis! They did stuff like this.",
">\n\nArrest him?",
">\n\nThat whole “her email” and “her server” was literally a distraction.",
">\n\nWow. I can’t wait for something to be done about this. /s",
">\n\nThis is not at all surprising. Piece of shit doing piece of shit things.",
">\n\nMeadows was part of the planners for the J6 riots. He better start cooperating before he is sentenced to decades in prison.",
">\n\nWhen do we start injecting these crooks with Sodium Pentothal?",
">\n\nPut Meadows in jail already",
">\n\nNohing will happen.",
">\n\nCool, can't wait for the DOJ to continue to do nothing.",
">\n\nPence should have been a Leader and not a Denier, if he had half the spine Cassy has, he would be the leading 2024 GOP nominee!!!",
">\n\nOh I’m sure they’re still on somebody’s hard-drive or email server somewhere. Burning docs doesn’t clear things up in today’s world.",
">\n\nThere’s no evidence. It’s just her statement. She could be saying all these things bc she don’t like trump like most of you. Ya was okay with twitter censorship. Maybe Twitter ceo with most of its employees should be in jail for censoring and interfering in the election.",
">\n\nOh no. The guy who helped plan a coup burned some documents. Whatever will we do.",
">\n\nis this the same lady that saying what happened in the limo but wasnt even in the limo?",
">\n\nIf it turns out to be true, its bad and there should be consequences though - right?",
">\n\n“once they turned his office fireplace in December 2020”\nDoes anyone copy edit this stuff? What the hell is this supposed to mean?",
">\n\nCryin’ Mark Meadows",
">\n\nThat’s what no heat gets you. Burned up criminal conspiracy documents.",
">\n\nOf course he did 🙄",
">\n\nWell he has a foot above Trump. He burned documents instead of trying to flush them down the toilet.",
">\n\nSeems like a totally normal procedure. Nothing suspicious here! /s",
">\n\nTreason plans?",
">\n\nBurning documents feels like a cartoon move. Like something Peter Griffin would literally do if he was going to get in trouble. Do these folks not realize there is an electronic version of whatever they burn?",
">\n\nI never thought about fireplaces in the White House. Basically every president has had a document incinerator right there in the building, just steps away and it would never be weird for it to be running. 🤔"
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This lady literally admitted to lying about the secret service thing didn’t she? Why should I believe this?
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[
"It's only clear if one can prove they were originals, not copies. I'm all for holding them accountable but you toss the baby out with the bath water. Be rational and logical.",
">\n\nI’m sure they brunt copies because that’s what you do with incriminating evidence copy it and burn the copies. Jesus man.",
">\n\nI'm just saying... rationally speaking, if you can't prove they were original documents, you cannot jump straight to \"yep that's it, hang em\". Are the odds good that they were originals? I'd say yes, but you have to prove it.",
">\n\nHe was a participant in a criminal conspiracy and he burned documents I would vote to convict.",
">\n\nWithout evidence? What you mentioned is circumstantial. If you're willing to convict someone of a specific crime without specific evidence to back it up, you're no better than they are. You would be acting on emotion and bias rather than evidence and proof. This is how lots of people end up locked up who are actually innocent of the crime in question because they are judged based on other behavior. That is not justice served.",
">\n\nIf you provably conspired to murder someone provably and we find human blood stains on your rug its ok to consider it further proof of the same crime we already proved. \nThere is ample evidence of the criminal conspiracy. There is no motivation in any possible universe where someone guilty of criminal conspiracy burns government documents and we believe that the governments were copies.\nPlease note the word reasonable in reasonable doubt.",
">\n\n\nprovably\n\nTherein lies the problem",
">\n\nWe have ample evidence of conspiracy to subvert democracy",
">\n\nThat's not what's being discussed. We're talking about Meadows burning documents.",
">\n\nLock him up.",
">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off",
">\n\nGuys can't even courtesy flush because by the time they finally get that beefroll down the hatch, it's too late--the stink is everywhere by then. Not me, of course. But Bubba, next cell over--hooWEE! Let me tell you folks, it's true. This is America, can you believe it? Maybe it's fine in Gynna. Their poops are smaller, I guess. Short little people over there. Little people, little poops. And I don't like how you have to pull down the jumpsuit to drop a deuce, either. Everyone says I wear it well, though--the warden, the CO's. No one has ever looked more presidential in a jumpsuit, they say.",
">\n\nThis women deserves the credit mike pence is getting",
">\n\nIt’s really annoying that Mike Pence keeps getting any credit for anything. He showed he had a spine on the one day it matters, and then keeps trying to play the “we just need to put this behind us and focus on the “real”* issues”. Again, Mike Pence did the only thing that mattered of him on Jan 6, good. I’m glad he was there and did that.\nIt doesnt make him a good person. It doesnt make him smart. And without verbally attacking the person who sent a far right mob to kill him, he is fine with his life being put in danger for “owning the libs”. What a spineless piece of shit.\n*real meaning anything I can make up that forces democrats to react to, and usually it has nothing to do with true policy.",
">\n\nEh, you guys are just struggling to give credit where credit is due because of the R next to his name and disagreements on previous policies. Call a spade a spade, the man made a hard decision for the moment and he should be honored for it just like those that voted not to impeach Andrew Johnson in the 1860s and others that came before us who stood to keep our country hole.",
">\n\nIt’s honestly a question of if you think certifying votes should qualify as job done. I’d argue that when you see, firsthand, a fundamental threat to our democracy as the second in command you are duty bound to do more than turn the page.",
">\n\nI agree completely. I’d just like to push back that it’s a lot easier to say this on a Reddit thread than with 60,000 people screaming hang Mike Pence on your front door from constructed gallows. Anyone who says he doesn’t deserve credit is doing so because they are unable to come down from their tower.",
">\n\nThe problem with giving Pence too much credit is that it glosses over the fact that, prior to January 6th, Pence was trying really hard to do what Trump wanted. He was looking for any legal justification to not certify the election and was even entertaining the idea without one.\nIt's like giving someone a pat on the back for finally doing the right thing after they knowingly did the wrong thing.\nIn addition, that moment of courage by Pence gets completely washed away by his intransigence to comply with the investigation. All he cares about is his political ambitions.",
">\n\nMaybe so. But history will be written with Pence as a hero and that’s okay with me.",
">\n\nAnd cassidy Hutchinson should be. My original point. Yea, his co pilot through this entire shit show is a hero for doing his job. I don't feel bad for the situation they got themselves into. There were more than enough warning signs leading allll the way up to this day.",
">\n\nWelp... That's obstruction / destruction of evidence.",
">\n\nFor all the security cameras in public places you'd think we'd also have them for public offices.",
">\n\nThe difference is the people making those decisions are in the offices.",
">\n\nIt's probably more effective than flushing them.",
">\n\nOr eating them",
">\n\nOr stealing them.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 65%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nFormer Trump White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson indicated Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, burned documents in his fireplace roughly a dozen times in the final weeks of the administration, according to newly released transcripts of her House Jan. 6 committee depositions.\n\"The Presidential Records Act only asks that you keep the original copy of a document. So, yes,\" Hutchinson said when asked if she saw Meadows use the fireplace to burn documents.\n\"I know maybe three or four times - between two and four times, he had Mr. Perry in his office right before,\" Hutchinson told the committee, although she cautioned that she did not know what documents were burned.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Hutchinson^#1 Meadows^#2 burn^#3 document^#4 fireplace^#5",
">\n\nMerrick, you're up dude, jesus.",
">\n\nabdicated to jack smith to maintain independence so that the criminal process itself cannot be attacked to avoid justice.",
">\n\nthat was locker room destruction of government property. also trump has complete immunity. ALSO (somehow) he did nothing wrong.",
">\n\nI would assume that any document given to Mark Meadows was printed off and must be on a hard drive somewhere right? It's not the olden days when records were stored only on paper. So why was MM burning them?",
">\n\nHandwritten memos, received old school faxes, typewritten single copies. \nAlthough I did buy a used fax machine years ago that came from a gov’t office and stored on the carbon roll were months of a provincial cabinet minister’s outgoing communications.",
">\n\nShe’s very brave and I hope she can continue speaking truth to this national embarrassment",
">\n\nThis seems rather early 20th century don't you think? Republicans......ever behind the times. LOL.",
">\n\nTruly the Internet Explorer of political parties.",
">\n\nThe political party of AOL dialup.",
">\n\nBrought to you by Carl’s Jr.",
">\n\nWelcome to Costco, I love you",
">\n\nArrest the shitstain and his boss already DOJ.",
">\n\nSo no one is going to prison for this presidential crime spree? Really??",
">\n\nFun little felony.",
">\n\nPence only did the right thing because after talking to his lawyers, he realized he would be on legal trouble. He only did it for his own a**",
">\n\nAND after talking with Dan Quayle, checking if there was anything Pence could legally do to stop the certification.",
">\n\nBut what about Hillary’s emails ?",
">\n\nShe was the one who basically lied about the limo issue, right?\nJust checking.",
">\n\nWho else does stuff like this? Wait... I know... Don't tell me...\nOh! The Nazis! They did stuff like this.",
">\n\nArrest him?",
">\n\nThat whole “her email” and “her server” was literally a distraction.",
">\n\nWow. I can’t wait for something to be done about this. /s",
">\n\nThis is not at all surprising. Piece of shit doing piece of shit things.",
">\n\nMeadows was part of the planners for the J6 riots. He better start cooperating before he is sentenced to decades in prison.",
">\n\nWhen do we start injecting these crooks with Sodium Pentothal?",
">\n\nPut Meadows in jail already",
">\n\nNohing will happen.",
">\n\nCool, can't wait for the DOJ to continue to do nothing.",
">\n\nPence should have been a Leader and not a Denier, if he had half the spine Cassy has, he would be the leading 2024 GOP nominee!!!",
">\n\nOh I’m sure they’re still on somebody’s hard-drive or email server somewhere. Burning docs doesn’t clear things up in today’s world.",
">\n\nThere’s no evidence. It’s just her statement. She could be saying all these things bc she don’t like trump like most of you. Ya was okay with twitter censorship. Maybe Twitter ceo with most of its employees should be in jail for censoring and interfering in the election.",
">\n\nOh no. The guy who helped plan a coup burned some documents. Whatever will we do.",
">\n\nis this the same lady that saying what happened in the limo but wasnt even in the limo?",
">\n\nIf it turns out to be true, its bad and there should be consequences though - right?",
">\n\n“once they turned his office fireplace in December 2020”\nDoes anyone copy edit this stuff? What the hell is this supposed to mean?",
">\n\nCryin’ Mark Meadows",
">\n\nThat’s what no heat gets you. Burned up criminal conspiracy documents.",
">\n\nOf course he did 🙄",
">\n\nWell he has a foot above Trump. He burned documents instead of trying to flush them down the toilet.",
">\n\nSeems like a totally normal procedure. Nothing suspicious here! /s",
">\n\nTreason plans?",
">\n\nBurning documents feels like a cartoon move. Like something Peter Griffin would literally do if he was going to get in trouble. Do these folks not realize there is an electronic version of whatever they burn?",
">\n\nI never thought about fireplaces in the White House. Basically every president has had a document incinerator right there in the building, just steps away and it would never be weird for it to be running. 🤔",
">\n\nDamn, Nixon’s goons only shredded his docs. Meadows must of seen the scene in Batman returns, when The Penguin(Danny Devito) found all of Max Shrek’s documents in the sewer and tapped them all back together."
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Trump's lawyers pressured her into lying and saying she hadn't heard that Trump lunged at his driver when she actually had heard that. She then immediately told her lawyer she had misled the committee and amended her testimony. I would say admitting a lie and correcting it earns her some credibility.
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[
"It's only clear if one can prove they were originals, not copies. I'm all for holding them accountable but you toss the baby out with the bath water. Be rational and logical.",
">\n\nI’m sure they brunt copies because that’s what you do with incriminating evidence copy it and burn the copies. Jesus man.",
">\n\nI'm just saying... rationally speaking, if you can't prove they were original documents, you cannot jump straight to \"yep that's it, hang em\". Are the odds good that they were originals? I'd say yes, but you have to prove it.",
">\n\nHe was a participant in a criminal conspiracy and he burned documents I would vote to convict.",
">\n\nWithout evidence? What you mentioned is circumstantial. If you're willing to convict someone of a specific crime without specific evidence to back it up, you're no better than they are. You would be acting on emotion and bias rather than evidence and proof. This is how lots of people end up locked up who are actually innocent of the crime in question because they are judged based on other behavior. That is not justice served.",
">\n\nIf you provably conspired to murder someone provably and we find human blood stains on your rug its ok to consider it further proof of the same crime we already proved. \nThere is ample evidence of the criminal conspiracy. There is no motivation in any possible universe where someone guilty of criminal conspiracy burns government documents and we believe that the governments were copies.\nPlease note the word reasonable in reasonable doubt.",
">\n\n\nprovably\n\nTherein lies the problem",
">\n\nWe have ample evidence of conspiracy to subvert democracy",
">\n\nThat's not what's being discussed. We're talking about Meadows burning documents.",
">\n\nLock him up.",
">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off",
">\n\nGuys can't even courtesy flush because by the time they finally get that beefroll down the hatch, it's too late--the stink is everywhere by then. Not me, of course. But Bubba, next cell over--hooWEE! Let me tell you folks, it's true. This is America, can you believe it? Maybe it's fine in Gynna. Their poops are smaller, I guess. Short little people over there. Little people, little poops. And I don't like how you have to pull down the jumpsuit to drop a deuce, either. Everyone says I wear it well, though--the warden, the CO's. No one has ever looked more presidential in a jumpsuit, they say.",
">\n\nThis women deserves the credit mike pence is getting",
">\n\nIt’s really annoying that Mike Pence keeps getting any credit for anything. He showed he had a spine on the one day it matters, and then keeps trying to play the “we just need to put this behind us and focus on the “real”* issues”. Again, Mike Pence did the only thing that mattered of him on Jan 6, good. I’m glad he was there and did that.\nIt doesnt make him a good person. It doesnt make him smart. And without verbally attacking the person who sent a far right mob to kill him, he is fine with his life being put in danger for “owning the libs”. What a spineless piece of shit.\n*real meaning anything I can make up that forces democrats to react to, and usually it has nothing to do with true policy.",
">\n\nEh, you guys are just struggling to give credit where credit is due because of the R next to his name and disagreements on previous policies. Call a spade a spade, the man made a hard decision for the moment and he should be honored for it just like those that voted not to impeach Andrew Johnson in the 1860s and others that came before us who stood to keep our country hole.",
">\n\nIt’s honestly a question of if you think certifying votes should qualify as job done. I’d argue that when you see, firsthand, a fundamental threat to our democracy as the second in command you are duty bound to do more than turn the page.",
">\n\nI agree completely. I’d just like to push back that it’s a lot easier to say this on a Reddit thread than with 60,000 people screaming hang Mike Pence on your front door from constructed gallows. Anyone who says he doesn’t deserve credit is doing so because they are unable to come down from their tower.",
">\n\nThe problem with giving Pence too much credit is that it glosses over the fact that, prior to January 6th, Pence was trying really hard to do what Trump wanted. He was looking for any legal justification to not certify the election and was even entertaining the idea without one.\nIt's like giving someone a pat on the back for finally doing the right thing after they knowingly did the wrong thing.\nIn addition, that moment of courage by Pence gets completely washed away by his intransigence to comply with the investigation. All he cares about is his political ambitions.",
">\n\nMaybe so. But history will be written with Pence as a hero and that’s okay with me.",
">\n\nAnd cassidy Hutchinson should be. My original point. Yea, his co pilot through this entire shit show is a hero for doing his job. I don't feel bad for the situation they got themselves into. There were more than enough warning signs leading allll the way up to this day.",
">\n\nWelp... That's obstruction / destruction of evidence.",
">\n\nFor all the security cameras in public places you'd think we'd also have them for public offices.",
">\n\nThe difference is the people making those decisions are in the offices.",
">\n\nIt's probably more effective than flushing them.",
">\n\nOr eating them",
">\n\nOr stealing them.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 65%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nFormer Trump White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson indicated Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, burned documents in his fireplace roughly a dozen times in the final weeks of the administration, according to newly released transcripts of her House Jan. 6 committee depositions.\n\"The Presidential Records Act only asks that you keep the original copy of a document. So, yes,\" Hutchinson said when asked if she saw Meadows use the fireplace to burn documents.\n\"I know maybe three or four times - between two and four times, he had Mr. Perry in his office right before,\" Hutchinson told the committee, although she cautioned that she did not know what documents were burned.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Hutchinson^#1 Meadows^#2 burn^#3 document^#4 fireplace^#5",
">\n\nMerrick, you're up dude, jesus.",
">\n\nabdicated to jack smith to maintain independence so that the criminal process itself cannot be attacked to avoid justice.",
">\n\nthat was locker room destruction of government property. also trump has complete immunity. ALSO (somehow) he did nothing wrong.",
">\n\nI would assume that any document given to Mark Meadows was printed off and must be on a hard drive somewhere right? It's not the olden days when records were stored only on paper. So why was MM burning them?",
">\n\nHandwritten memos, received old school faxes, typewritten single copies. \nAlthough I did buy a used fax machine years ago that came from a gov’t office and stored on the carbon roll were months of a provincial cabinet minister’s outgoing communications.",
">\n\nShe’s very brave and I hope she can continue speaking truth to this national embarrassment",
">\n\nThis seems rather early 20th century don't you think? Republicans......ever behind the times. LOL.",
">\n\nTruly the Internet Explorer of political parties.",
">\n\nThe political party of AOL dialup.",
">\n\nBrought to you by Carl’s Jr.",
">\n\nWelcome to Costco, I love you",
">\n\nArrest the shitstain and his boss already DOJ.",
">\n\nSo no one is going to prison for this presidential crime spree? Really??",
">\n\nFun little felony.",
">\n\nPence only did the right thing because after talking to his lawyers, he realized he would be on legal trouble. He only did it for his own a**",
">\n\nAND after talking with Dan Quayle, checking if there was anything Pence could legally do to stop the certification.",
">\n\nBut what about Hillary’s emails ?",
">\n\nShe was the one who basically lied about the limo issue, right?\nJust checking.",
">\n\nWho else does stuff like this? Wait... I know... Don't tell me...\nOh! The Nazis! They did stuff like this.",
">\n\nArrest him?",
">\n\nThat whole “her email” and “her server” was literally a distraction.",
">\n\nWow. I can’t wait for something to be done about this. /s",
">\n\nThis is not at all surprising. Piece of shit doing piece of shit things.",
">\n\nMeadows was part of the planners for the J6 riots. He better start cooperating before he is sentenced to decades in prison.",
">\n\nWhen do we start injecting these crooks with Sodium Pentothal?",
">\n\nPut Meadows in jail already",
">\n\nNohing will happen.",
">\n\nCool, can't wait for the DOJ to continue to do nothing.",
">\n\nPence should have been a Leader and not a Denier, if he had half the spine Cassy has, he would be the leading 2024 GOP nominee!!!",
">\n\nOh I’m sure they’re still on somebody’s hard-drive or email server somewhere. Burning docs doesn’t clear things up in today’s world.",
">\n\nThere’s no evidence. It’s just her statement. She could be saying all these things bc she don’t like trump like most of you. Ya was okay with twitter censorship. Maybe Twitter ceo with most of its employees should be in jail for censoring and interfering in the election.",
">\n\nOh no. The guy who helped plan a coup burned some documents. Whatever will we do.",
">\n\nis this the same lady that saying what happened in the limo but wasnt even in the limo?",
">\n\nIf it turns out to be true, its bad and there should be consequences though - right?",
">\n\n“once they turned his office fireplace in December 2020”\nDoes anyone copy edit this stuff? What the hell is this supposed to mean?",
">\n\nCryin’ Mark Meadows",
">\n\nThat’s what no heat gets you. Burned up criminal conspiracy documents.",
">\n\nOf course he did 🙄",
">\n\nWell he has a foot above Trump. He burned documents instead of trying to flush them down the toilet.",
">\n\nSeems like a totally normal procedure. Nothing suspicious here! /s",
">\n\nTreason plans?",
">\n\nBurning documents feels like a cartoon move. Like something Peter Griffin would literally do if he was going to get in trouble. Do these folks not realize there is an electronic version of whatever they burn?",
">\n\nI never thought about fireplaces in the White House. Basically every president has had a document incinerator right there in the building, just steps away and it would never be weird for it to be running. 🤔",
">\n\nDamn, Nixon’s goons only shredded his docs. Meadows must of seen the scene in Batman returns, when The Penguin(Danny Devito) found all of Max Shrek’s documents in the sewer and tapped them all back together.",
">\n\nThis lady literally admitted to lying about the secret service thing didn’t she? Why should I believe this?"
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Why weren’t paper shredders good enough for these people?
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[
"It's only clear if one can prove they were originals, not copies. I'm all for holding them accountable but you toss the baby out with the bath water. Be rational and logical.",
">\n\nI’m sure they brunt copies because that’s what you do with incriminating evidence copy it and burn the copies. Jesus man.",
">\n\nI'm just saying... rationally speaking, if you can't prove they were original documents, you cannot jump straight to \"yep that's it, hang em\". Are the odds good that they were originals? I'd say yes, but you have to prove it.",
">\n\nHe was a participant in a criminal conspiracy and he burned documents I would vote to convict.",
">\n\nWithout evidence? What you mentioned is circumstantial. If you're willing to convict someone of a specific crime without specific evidence to back it up, you're no better than they are. You would be acting on emotion and bias rather than evidence and proof. This is how lots of people end up locked up who are actually innocent of the crime in question because they are judged based on other behavior. That is not justice served.",
">\n\nIf you provably conspired to murder someone provably and we find human blood stains on your rug its ok to consider it further proof of the same crime we already proved. \nThere is ample evidence of the criminal conspiracy. There is no motivation in any possible universe where someone guilty of criminal conspiracy burns government documents and we believe that the governments were copies.\nPlease note the word reasonable in reasonable doubt.",
">\n\n\nprovably\n\nTherein lies the problem",
">\n\nWe have ample evidence of conspiracy to subvert democracy",
">\n\nThat's not what's being discussed. We're talking about Meadows burning documents.",
">\n\nLock him up.",
">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off",
">\n\nGuys can't even courtesy flush because by the time they finally get that beefroll down the hatch, it's too late--the stink is everywhere by then. Not me, of course. But Bubba, next cell over--hooWEE! Let me tell you folks, it's true. This is America, can you believe it? Maybe it's fine in Gynna. Their poops are smaller, I guess. Short little people over there. Little people, little poops. And I don't like how you have to pull down the jumpsuit to drop a deuce, either. Everyone says I wear it well, though--the warden, the CO's. No one has ever looked more presidential in a jumpsuit, they say.",
">\n\nThis women deserves the credit mike pence is getting",
">\n\nIt’s really annoying that Mike Pence keeps getting any credit for anything. He showed he had a spine on the one day it matters, and then keeps trying to play the “we just need to put this behind us and focus on the “real”* issues”. Again, Mike Pence did the only thing that mattered of him on Jan 6, good. I’m glad he was there and did that.\nIt doesnt make him a good person. It doesnt make him smart. And without verbally attacking the person who sent a far right mob to kill him, he is fine with his life being put in danger for “owning the libs”. What a spineless piece of shit.\n*real meaning anything I can make up that forces democrats to react to, and usually it has nothing to do with true policy.",
">\n\nEh, you guys are just struggling to give credit where credit is due because of the R next to his name and disagreements on previous policies. Call a spade a spade, the man made a hard decision for the moment and he should be honored for it just like those that voted not to impeach Andrew Johnson in the 1860s and others that came before us who stood to keep our country hole.",
">\n\nIt’s honestly a question of if you think certifying votes should qualify as job done. I’d argue that when you see, firsthand, a fundamental threat to our democracy as the second in command you are duty bound to do more than turn the page.",
">\n\nI agree completely. I’d just like to push back that it’s a lot easier to say this on a Reddit thread than with 60,000 people screaming hang Mike Pence on your front door from constructed gallows. Anyone who says he doesn’t deserve credit is doing so because they are unable to come down from their tower.",
">\n\nThe problem with giving Pence too much credit is that it glosses over the fact that, prior to January 6th, Pence was trying really hard to do what Trump wanted. He was looking for any legal justification to not certify the election and was even entertaining the idea without one.\nIt's like giving someone a pat on the back for finally doing the right thing after they knowingly did the wrong thing.\nIn addition, that moment of courage by Pence gets completely washed away by his intransigence to comply with the investigation. All he cares about is his political ambitions.",
">\n\nMaybe so. But history will be written with Pence as a hero and that’s okay with me.",
">\n\nAnd cassidy Hutchinson should be. My original point. Yea, his co pilot through this entire shit show is a hero for doing his job. I don't feel bad for the situation they got themselves into. There were more than enough warning signs leading allll the way up to this day.",
">\n\nWelp... That's obstruction / destruction of evidence.",
">\n\nFor all the security cameras in public places you'd think we'd also have them for public offices.",
">\n\nThe difference is the people making those decisions are in the offices.",
">\n\nIt's probably more effective than flushing them.",
">\n\nOr eating them",
">\n\nOr stealing them.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 65%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nFormer Trump White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson indicated Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, burned documents in his fireplace roughly a dozen times in the final weeks of the administration, according to newly released transcripts of her House Jan. 6 committee depositions.\n\"The Presidential Records Act only asks that you keep the original copy of a document. So, yes,\" Hutchinson said when asked if she saw Meadows use the fireplace to burn documents.\n\"I know maybe three or four times - between two and four times, he had Mr. Perry in his office right before,\" Hutchinson told the committee, although she cautioned that she did not know what documents were burned.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Hutchinson^#1 Meadows^#2 burn^#3 document^#4 fireplace^#5",
">\n\nMerrick, you're up dude, jesus.",
">\n\nabdicated to jack smith to maintain independence so that the criminal process itself cannot be attacked to avoid justice.",
">\n\nthat was locker room destruction of government property. also trump has complete immunity. ALSO (somehow) he did nothing wrong.",
">\n\nI would assume that any document given to Mark Meadows was printed off and must be on a hard drive somewhere right? It's not the olden days when records were stored only on paper. So why was MM burning them?",
">\n\nHandwritten memos, received old school faxes, typewritten single copies. \nAlthough I did buy a used fax machine years ago that came from a gov’t office and stored on the carbon roll were months of a provincial cabinet minister’s outgoing communications.",
">\n\nShe’s very brave and I hope she can continue speaking truth to this national embarrassment",
">\n\nThis seems rather early 20th century don't you think? Republicans......ever behind the times. LOL.",
">\n\nTruly the Internet Explorer of political parties.",
">\n\nThe political party of AOL dialup.",
">\n\nBrought to you by Carl’s Jr.",
">\n\nWelcome to Costco, I love you",
">\n\nArrest the shitstain and his boss already DOJ.",
">\n\nSo no one is going to prison for this presidential crime spree? Really??",
">\n\nFun little felony.",
">\n\nPence only did the right thing because after talking to his lawyers, he realized he would be on legal trouble. He only did it for his own a**",
">\n\nAND after talking with Dan Quayle, checking if there was anything Pence could legally do to stop the certification.",
">\n\nBut what about Hillary’s emails ?",
">\n\nShe was the one who basically lied about the limo issue, right?\nJust checking.",
">\n\nWho else does stuff like this? Wait... I know... Don't tell me...\nOh! The Nazis! They did stuff like this.",
">\n\nArrest him?",
">\n\nThat whole “her email” and “her server” was literally a distraction.",
">\n\nWow. I can’t wait for something to be done about this. /s",
">\n\nThis is not at all surprising. Piece of shit doing piece of shit things.",
">\n\nMeadows was part of the planners for the J6 riots. He better start cooperating before he is sentenced to decades in prison.",
">\n\nWhen do we start injecting these crooks with Sodium Pentothal?",
">\n\nPut Meadows in jail already",
">\n\nNohing will happen.",
">\n\nCool, can't wait for the DOJ to continue to do nothing.",
">\n\nPence should have been a Leader and not a Denier, if he had half the spine Cassy has, he would be the leading 2024 GOP nominee!!!",
">\n\nOh I’m sure they’re still on somebody’s hard-drive or email server somewhere. Burning docs doesn’t clear things up in today’s world.",
">\n\nThere’s no evidence. It’s just her statement. She could be saying all these things bc she don’t like trump like most of you. Ya was okay with twitter censorship. Maybe Twitter ceo with most of its employees should be in jail for censoring and interfering in the election.",
">\n\nOh no. The guy who helped plan a coup burned some documents. Whatever will we do.",
">\n\nis this the same lady that saying what happened in the limo but wasnt even in the limo?",
">\n\nIf it turns out to be true, its bad and there should be consequences though - right?",
">\n\n“once they turned his office fireplace in December 2020”\nDoes anyone copy edit this stuff? What the hell is this supposed to mean?",
">\n\nCryin’ Mark Meadows",
">\n\nThat’s what no heat gets you. Burned up criminal conspiracy documents.",
">\n\nOf course he did 🙄",
">\n\nWell he has a foot above Trump. He burned documents instead of trying to flush them down the toilet.",
">\n\nSeems like a totally normal procedure. Nothing suspicious here! /s",
">\n\nTreason plans?",
">\n\nBurning documents feels like a cartoon move. Like something Peter Griffin would literally do if he was going to get in trouble. Do these folks not realize there is an electronic version of whatever they burn?",
">\n\nI never thought about fireplaces in the White House. Basically every president has had a document incinerator right there in the building, just steps away and it would never be weird for it to be running. 🤔",
">\n\nDamn, Nixon’s goons only shredded his docs. Meadows must of seen the scene in Batman returns, when The Penguin(Danny Devito) found all of Max Shrek’s documents in the sewer and tapped them all back together.",
">\n\nThis lady literally admitted to lying about the secret service thing didn’t she? Why should I believe this?",
">\n\nTrump's lawyers pressured her into lying and saying she hadn't heard that Trump lunged at his driver when she actually had heard that. She then immediately told her lawyer she had misled the committee and amended her testimony. I would say admitting a lie and correcting it earns her some credibility."
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[
"It's only clear if one can prove they were originals, not copies. I'm all for holding them accountable but you toss the baby out with the bath water. Be rational and logical.",
">\n\nI’m sure they brunt copies because that’s what you do with incriminating evidence copy it and burn the copies. Jesus man.",
">\n\nI'm just saying... rationally speaking, if you can't prove they were original documents, you cannot jump straight to \"yep that's it, hang em\". Are the odds good that they were originals? I'd say yes, but you have to prove it.",
">\n\nHe was a participant in a criminal conspiracy and he burned documents I would vote to convict.",
">\n\nWithout evidence? What you mentioned is circumstantial. If you're willing to convict someone of a specific crime without specific evidence to back it up, you're no better than they are. You would be acting on emotion and bias rather than evidence and proof. This is how lots of people end up locked up who are actually innocent of the crime in question because they are judged based on other behavior. That is not justice served.",
">\n\nIf you provably conspired to murder someone provably and we find human blood stains on your rug its ok to consider it further proof of the same crime we already proved. \nThere is ample evidence of the criminal conspiracy. There is no motivation in any possible universe where someone guilty of criminal conspiracy burns government documents and we believe that the governments were copies.\nPlease note the word reasonable in reasonable doubt.",
">\n\n\nprovably\n\nTherein lies the problem",
">\n\nWe have ample evidence of conspiracy to subvert democracy",
">\n\nThat's not what's being discussed. We're talking about Meadows burning documents.",
">\n\nLock him up.",
">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off",
">\n\nGuys can't even courtesy flush because by the time they finally get that beefroll down the hatch, it's too late--the stink is everywhere by then. Not me, of course. But Bubba, next cell over--hooWEE! Let me tell you folks, it's true. This is America, can you believe it? Maybe it's fine in Gynna. Their poops are smaller, I guess. Short little people over there. Little people, little poops. And I don't like how you have to pull down the jumpsuit to drop a deuce, either. Everyone says I wear it well, though--the warden, the CO's. No one has ever looked more presidential in a jumpsuit, they say.",
">\n\nThis women deserves the credit mike pence is getting",
">\n\nIt’s really annoying that Mike Pence keeps getting any credit for anything. He showed he had a spine on the one day it matters, and then keeps trying to play the “we just need to put this behind us and focus on the “real”* issues”. Again, Mike Pence did the only thing that mattered of him on Jan 6, good. I’m glad he was there and did that.\nIt doesnt make him a good person. It doesnt make him smart. And without verbally attacking the person who sent a far right mob to kill him, he is fine with his life being put in danger for “owning the libs”. What a spineless piece of shit.\n*real meaning anything I can make up that forces democrats to react to, and usually it has nothing to do with true policy.",
">\n\nEh, you guys are just struggling to give credit where credit is due because of the R next to his name and disagreements on previous policies. Call a spade a spade, the man made a hard decision for the moment and he should be honored for it just like those that voted not to impeach Andrew Johnson in the 1860s and others that came before us who stood to keep our country hole.",
">\n\nIt’s honestly a question of if you think certifying votes should qualify as job done. I’d argue that when you see, firsthand, a fundamental threat to our democracy as the second in command you are duty bound to do more than turn the page.",
">\n\nI agree completely. I’d just like to push back that it’s a lot easier to say this on a Reddit thread than with 60,000 people screaming hang Mike Pence on your front door from constructed gallows. Anyone who says he doesn’t deserve credit is doing so because they are unable to come down from their tower.",
">\n\nThe problem with giving Pence too much credit is that it glosses over the fact that, prior to January 6th, Pence was trying really hard to do what Trump wanted. He was looking for any legal justification to not certify the election and was even entertaining the idea without one.\nIt's like giving someone a pat on the back for finally doing the right thing after they knowingly did the wrong thing.\nIn addition, that moment of courage by Pence gets completely washed away by his intransigence to comply with the investigation. All he cares about is his political ambitions.",
">\n\nMaybe so. But history will be written with Pence as a hero and that’s okay with me.",
">\n\nAnd cassidy Hutchinson should be. My original point. Yea, his co pilot through this entire shit show is a hero for doing his job. I don't feel bad for the situation they got themselves into. There were more than enough warning signs leading allll the way up to this day.",
">\n\nWelp... That's obstruction / destruction of evidence.",
">\n\nFor all the security cameras in public places you'd think we'd also have them for public offices.",
">\n\nThe difference is the people making those decisions are in the offices.",
">\n\nIt's probably more effective than flushing them.",
">\n\nOr eating them",
">\n\nOr stealing them.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 65%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nFormer Trump White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson indicated Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, burned documents in his fireplace roughly a dozen times in the final weeks of the administration, according to newly released transcripts of her House Jan. 6 committee depositions.\n\"The Presidential Records Act only asks that you keep the original copy of a document. So, yes,\" Hutchinson said when asked if she saw Meadows use the fireplace to burn documents.\n\"I know maybe three or four times - between two and four times, he had Mr. Perry in his office right before,\" Hutchinson told the committee, although she cautioned that she did not know what documents were burned.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Hutchinson^#1 Meadows^#2 burn^#3 document^#4 fireplace^#5",
">\n\nMerrick, you're up dude, jesus.",
">\n\nabdicated to jack smith to maintain independence so that the criminal process itself cannot be attacked to avoid justice.",
">\n\nthat was locker room destruction of government property. also trump has complete immunity. ALSO (somehow) he did nothing wrong.",
">\n\nI would assume that any document given to Mark Meadows was printed off and must be on a hard drive somewhere right? It's not the olden days when records were stored only on paper. So why was MM burning them?",
">\n\nHandwritten memos, received old school faxes, typewritten single copies. \nAlthough I did buy a used fax machine years ago that came from a gov’t office and stored on the carbon roll were months of a provincial cabinet minister’s outgoing communications.",
">\n\nShe’s very brave and I hope she can continue speaking truth to this national embarrassment",
">\n\nThis seems rather early 20th century don't you think? Republicans......ever behind the times. LOL.",
">\n\nTruly the Internet Explorer of political parties.",
">\n\nThe political party of AOL dialup.",
">\n\nBrought to you by Carl’s Jr.",
">\n\nWelcome to Costco, I love you",
">\n\nArrest the shitstain and his boss already DOJ.",
">\n\nSo no one is going to prison for this presidential crime spree? Really??",
">\n\nFun little felony.",
">\n\nPence only did the right thing because after talking to his lawyers, he realized he would be on legal trouble. He only did it for his own a**",
">\n\nAND after talking with Dan Quayle, checking if there was anything Pence could legally do to stop the certification.",
">\n\nBut what about Hillary’s emails ?",
">\n\nShe was the one who basically lied about the limo issue, right?\nJust checking.",
">\n\nWho else does stuff like this? Wait... I know... Don't tell me...\nOh! The Nazis! They did stuff like this.",
">\n\nArrest him?",
">\n\nThat whole “her email” and “her server” was literally a distraction.",
">\n\nWow. I can’t wait for something to be done about this. /s",
">\n\nThis is not at all surprising. Piece of shit doing piece of shit things.",
">\n\nMeadows was part of the planners for the J6 riots. He better start cooperating before he is sentenced to decades in prison.",
">\n\nWhen do we start injecting these crooks with Sodium Pentothal?",
">\n\nPut Meadows in jail already",
">\n\nNohing will happen.",
">\n\nCool, can't wait for the DOJ to continue to do nothing.",
">\n\nPence should have been a Leader and not a Denier, if he had half the spine Cassy has, he would be the leading 2024 GOP nominee!!!",
">\n\nOh I’m sure they’re still on somebody’s hard-drive or email server somewhere. Burning docs doesn’t clear things up in today’s world.",
">\n\nThere’s no evidence. It’s just her statement. She could be saying all these things bc she don’t like trump like most of you. Ya was okay with twitter censorship. Maybe Twitter ceo with most of its employees should be in jail for censoring and interfering in the election.",
">\n\nOh no. The guy who helped plan a coup burned some documents. Whatever will we do.",
">\n\nis this the same lady that saying what happened in the limo but wasnt even in the limo?",
">\n\nIf it turns out to be true, its bad and there should be consequences though - right?",
">\n\n“once they turned his office fireplace in December 2020”\nDoes anyone copy edit this stuff? What the hell is this supposed to mean?",
">\n\nCryin’ Mark Meadows",
">\n\nThat’s what no heat gets you. Burned up criminal conspiracy documents.",
">\n\nOf course he did 🙄",
">\n\nWell he has a foot above Trump. He burned documents instead of trying to flush them down the toilet.",
">\n\nSeems like a totally normal procedure. Nothing suspicious here! /s",
">\n\nTreason plans?",
">\n\nBurning documents feels like a cartoon move. Like something Peter Griffin would literally do if he was going to get in trouble. Do these folks not realize there is an electronic version of whatever they burn?",
">\n\nI never thought about fireplaces in the White House. Basically every president has had a document incinerator right there in the building, just steps away and it would never be weird for it to be running. 🤔",
">\n\nDamn, Nixon’s goons only shredded his docs. Meadows must of seen the scene in Batman returns, when The Penguin(Danny Devito) found all of Max Shrek’s documents in the sewer and tapped them all back together.",
">\n\nThis lady literally admitted to lying about the secret service thing didn’t she? Why should I believe this?",
">\n\nTrump's lawyers pressured her into lying and saying she hadn't heard that Trump lunged at his driver when she actually had heard that. She then immediately told her lawyer she had misled the committee and amended her testimony. I would say admitting a lie and correcting it earns her some credibility.",
">\n\nWhy weren’t paper shredders good enough for these people?"
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They do piss off customers. Almost as bad as CSRs who say, "I know how you feel".
Why do CSRs say such useless drivel to already annoyed customers?
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"~~Cheerful~~ Chatbots Don’t ~~Necessarily~~ Improve Customer Service"
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Worked in a call center, and we were told to “empathize” with customers. We would get random calls of ours pulled and graded and we’d listen to them with supervisors each week. If we missed out on saying things like that, we’d get graded down. I hated saying that shit, but I wasn’t trying to get fired either.
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[
"~~Cheerful~~ Chatbots Don’t ~~Necessarily~~ Improve Customer Service",
">\n\nThey do piss off customers. Almost as bad as CSRs who say, \"I know how you feel\".\nWhy do CSRs say such useless drivel to already annoyed customers?"
] |
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23 years of call center experience.
Sometimes we really do empathize with you.
“I know how you feel” is the /worst/ thing you can say to a customer in my opinion.
“Waiting on the phone for an hour to reach someone is very frustrating Ms Customer. As someone who works on a phone line 12 hours per day, I feel I understand the value of time when as a consumer, I call places to get things accomplished. Let’s get to the bottom of this so we can get your issue resolved.”
Wordier? Yes
Telling you a lie? No
And @throwawaysecretlove is right.
Depending on the size of the corporation, they listen for EVERYTHING and will terminate your employment for the stupidest reasons, including not expressing regret or empathizing with customers’ frustrations.
Edit: phrasing & punctuation on the long sentence in quotes for readability.
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"~~Cheerful~~ Chatbots Don’t ~~Necessarily~~ Improve Customer Service",
">\n\nThey do piss off customers. Almost as bad as CSRs who say, \"I know how you feel\".\nWhy do CSRs say such useless drivel to already annoyed customers?",
">\n\nWorked in a call center, and we were told to “empathize” with customers. We would get random calls of ours pulled and graded and we’d listen to them with supervisors each week. If we missed out on saying things like that, we’d get graded down. I hated saying that shit, but I wasn’t trying to get fired either."
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Fun bit is that measuring customer service is harder than ever now. Folks realize on those surveys that there are only two real options “should the csr keep their job or not” doesn’t really measure how good the service is.
|
[
"~~Cheerful~~ Chatbots Don’t ~~Necessarily~~ Improve Customer Service",
">\n\nThey do piss off customers. Almost as bad as CSRs who say, \"I know how you feel\".\nWhy do CSRs say such useless drivel to already annoyed customers?",
">\n\nWorked in a call center, and we were told to “empathize” with customers. We would get random calls of ours pulled and graded and we’d listen to them with supervisors each week. If we missed out on saying things like that, we’d get graded down. I hated saying that shit, but I wasn’t trying to get fired either.",
">\n\n23 years of call center experience.\nSometimes we really do empathize with you. \n“I know how you feel” is the /worst/ thing you can say to a customer in my opinion.\n“Waiting on the phone for an hour to reach someone is very frustrating Ms Customer. As someone who works on a phone line 12 hours per day, I feel I understand the value of time when as a consumer, I call places to get things accomplished. Let’s get to the bottom of this so we can get your issue resolved.” \nWordier? Yes\nTelling you a lie? No\nAnd @throwawaysecretlove is right.\nDepending on the size of the corporation, they listen for EVERYTHING and will terminate your employment for the stupidest reasons, including not expressing regret or empathizing with customers’ frustrations.\nEdit: phrasing & punctuation on the long sentence in quotes for readability."
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Even in retail it's the same metric. We have a group for reporting surveys that should be removed from our locations grade because it's actually for another location or it's clearly a spam/joke review. The response from the people receiving these reports is typically take the L and the review will drop off in x timeframe.
But anything below a high 9.# is a bad review
|
[
"~~Cheerful~~ Chatbots Don’t ~~Necessarily~~ Improve Customer Service",
">\n\nThey do piss off customers. Almost as bad as CSRs who say, \"I know how you feel\".\nWhy do CSRs say such useless drivel to already annoyed customers?",
">\n\nWorked in a call center, and we were told to “empathize” with customers. We would get random calls of ours pulled and graded and we’d listen to them with supervisors each week. If we missed out on saying things like that, we’d get graded down. I hated saying that shit, but I wasn’t trying to get fired either.",
">\n\n23 years of call center experience.\nSometimes we really do empathize with you. \n“I know how you feel” is the /worst/ thing you can say to a customer in my opinion.\n“Waiting on the phone for an hour to reach someone is very frustrating Ms Customer. As someone who works on a phone line 12 hours per day, I feel I understand the value of time when as a consumer, I call places to get things accomplished. Let’s get to the bottom of this so we can get your issue resolved.” \nWordier? Yes\nTelling you a lie? No\nAnd @throwawaysecretlove is right.\nDepending on the size of the corporation, they listen for EVERYTHING and will terminate your employment for the stupidest reasons, including not expressing regret or empathizing with customers’ frustrations.\nEdit: phrasing & punctuation on the long sentence in quotes for readability.",
">\n\nFun bit is that measuring customer service is harder than ever now. Folks realize on those surveys that there are only two real options “should the csr keep their job or not” doesn’t really measure how good the service is."
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Comedy sci-fi has already discussed how fucking annoying robots with fake personalities are.
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"~~Cheerful~~ Chatbots Don’t ~~Necessarily~~ Improve Customer Service",
">\n\nThey do piss off customers. Almost as bad as CSRs who say, \"I know how you feel\".\nWhy do CSRs say such useless drivel to already annoyed customers?",
">\n\nWorked in a call center, and we were told to “empathize” with customers. We would get random calls of ours pulled and graded and we’d listen to them with supervisors each week. If we missed out on saying things like that, we’d get graded down. I hated saying that shit, but I wasn’t trying to get fired either.",
">\n\n23 years of call center experience.\nSometimes we really do empathize with you. \n“I know how you feel” is the /worst/ thing you can say to a customer in my opinion.\n“Waiting on the phone for an hour to reach someone is very frustrating Ms Customer. As someone who works on a phone line 12 hours per day, I feel I understand the value of time when as a consumer, I call places to get things accomplished. Let’s get to the bottom of this so we can get your issue resolved.” \nWordier? Yes\nTelling you a lie? No\nAnd @throwawaysecretlove is right.\nDepending on the size of the corporation, they listen for EVERYTHING and will terminate your employment for the stupidest reasons, including not expressing regret or empathizing with customers’ frustrations.\nEdit: phrasing & punctuation on the long sentence in quotes for readability.",
">\n\nFun bit is that measuring customer service is harder than ever now. Folks realize on those surveys that there are only two real options “should the csr keep their job or not” doesn’t really measure how good the service is.",
">\n\nEven in retail it's the same metric. We have a group for reporting surveys that should be removed from our locations grade because it's actually for another location or it's clearly a spam/joke review. The response from the people receiving these reports is typically take the L and the review will drop off in x timeframe.\nBut anything below a high 9.# is a bad review"
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I'm shocked.
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[
"~~Cheerful~~ Chatbots Don’t ~~Necessarily~~ Improve Customer Service",
">\n\nThey do piss off customers. Almost as bad as CSRs who say, \"I know how you feel\".\nWhy do CSRs say such useless drivel to already annoyed customers?",
">\n\nWorked in a call center, and we were told to “empathize” with customers. We would get random calls of ours pulled and graded and we’d listen to them with supervisors each week. If we missed out on saying things like that, we’d get graded down. I hated saying that shit, but I wasn’t trying to get fired either.",
">\n\n23 years of call center experience.\nSometimes we really do empathize with you. \n“I know how you feel” is the /worst/ thing you can say to a customer in my opinion.\n“Waiting on the phone for an hour to reach someone is very frustrating Ms Customer. As someone who works on a phone line 12 hours per day, I feel I understand the value of time when as a consumer, I call places to get things accomplished. Let’s get to the bottom of this so we can get your issue resolved.” \nWordier? Yes\nTelling you a lie? No\nAnd @throwawaysecretlove is right.\nDepending on the size of the corporation, they listen for EVERYTHING and will terminate your employment for the stupidest reasons, including not expressing regret or empathizing with customers’ frustrations.\nEdit: phrasing & punctuation on the long sentence in quotes for readability.",
">\n\nFun bit is that measuring customer service is harder than ever now. Folks realize on those surveys that there are only two real options “should the csr keep their job or not” doesn’t really measure how good the service is.",
">\n\nEven in retail it's the same metric. We have a group for reporting surveys that should be removed from our locations grade because it's actually for another location or it's clearly a spam/joke review. The response from the people receiving these reports is typically take the L and the review will drop off in x timeframe.\nBut anything below a high 9.# is a bad review",
">\n\nComedy sci-fi has already discussed how fucking annoying robots with fake personalities are."
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Chatbots are much worse than being on hold or a 10-level phone tree. They never help and then the companies expect you "Rate your experience".
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"~~Cheerful~~ Chatbots Don’t ~~Necessarily~~ Improve Customer Service",
">\n\nThey do piss off customers. Almost as bad as CSRs who say, \"I know how you feel\".\nWhy do CSRs say such useless drivel to already annoyed customers?",
">\n\nWorked in a call center, and we were told to “empathize” with customers. We would get random calls of ours pulled and graded and we’d listen to them with supervisors each week. If we missed out on saying things like that, we’d get graded down. I hated saying that shit, but I wasn’t trying to get fired either.",
">\n\n23 years of call center experience.\nSometimes we really do empathize with you. \n“I know how you feel” is the /worst/ thing you can say to a customer in my opinion.\n“Waiting on the phone for an hour to reach someone is very frustrating Ms Customer. As someone who works on a phone line 12 hours per day, I feel I understand the value of time when as a consumer, I call places to get things accomplished. Let’s get to the bottom of this so we can get your issue resolved.” \nWordier? Yes\nTelling you a lie? No\nAnd @throwawaysecretlove is right.\nDepending on the size of the corporation, they listen for EVERYTHING and will terminate your employment for the stupidest reasons, including not expressing regret or empathizing with customers’ frustrations.\nEdit: phrasing & punctuation on the long sentence in quotes for readability.",
">\n\nFun bit is that measuring customer service is harder than ever now. Folks realize on those surveys that there are only two real options “should the csr keep their job or not” doesn’t really measure how good the service is.",
">\n\nEven in retail it's the same metric. We have a group for reporting surveys that should be removed from our locations grade because it's actually for another location or it's clearly a spam/joke review. The response from the people receiving these reports is typically take the L and the review will drop off in x timeframe.\nBut anything below a high 9.# is a bad review",
">\n\nComedy sci-fi has already discussed how fucking annoying robots with fake personalities are.",
">\n\nI'm shocked."
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Imagine being the pornhub engineer who accidentally switches up the customer service bots and sex chat bots…
Fired or promoted, it’s the only options.
|
[
"~~Cheerful~~ Chatbots Don’t ~~Necessarily~~ Improve Customer Service",
">\n\nThey do piss off customers. Almost as bad as CSRs who say, \"I know how you feel\".\nWhy do CSRs say such useless drivel to already annoyed customers?",
">\n\nWorked in a call center, and we were told to “empathize” with customers. We would get random calls of ours pulled and graded and we’d listen to them with supervisors each week. If we missed out on saying things like that, we’d get graded down. I hated saying that shit, but I wasn’t trying to get fired either.",
">\n\n23 years of call center experience.\nSometimes we really do empathize with you. \n“I know how you feel” is the /worst/ thing you can say to a customer in my opinion.\n“Waiting on the phone for an hour to reach someone is very frustrating Ms Customer. As someone who works on a phone line 12 hours per day, I feel I understand the value of time when as a consumer, I call places to get things accomplished. Let’s get to the bottom of this so we can get your issue resolved.” \nWordier? Yes\nTelling you a lie? No\nAnd @throwawaysecretlove is right.\nDepending on the size of the corporation, they listen for EVERYTHING and will terminate your employment for the stupidest reasons, including not expressing regret or empathizing with customers’ frustrations.\nEdit: phrasing & punctuation on the long sentence in quotes for readability.",
">\n\nFun bit is that measuring customer service is harder than ever now. Folks realize on those surveys that there are only two real options “should the csr keep their job or not” doesn’t really measure how good the service is.",
">\n\nEven in retail it's the same metric. We have a group for reporting surveys that should be removed from our locations grade because it's actually for another location or it's clearly a spam/joke review. The response from the people receiving these reports is typically take the L and the review will drop off in x timeframe.\nBut anything below a high 9.# is a bad review",
">\n\nComedy sci-fi has already discussed how fucking annoying robots with fake personalities are.",
">\n\nI'm shocked.",
">\n\nChatbots are much worse than being on hold or a 10-level phone tree. They never help and then the companies expect you \"Rate your experience\"."
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I strongly dislike chat bots. I can actually search a website or read a FAQ. Chat bots are basically FAQs that are fed to you when you enter text.
|
[
"~~Cheerful~~ Chatbots Don’t ~~Necessarily~~ Improve Customer Service",
">\n\nThey do piss off customers. Almost as bad as CSRs who say, \"I know how you feel\".\nWhy do CSRs say such useless drivel to already annoyed customers?",
">\n\nWorked in a call center, and we were told to “empathize” with customers. We would get random calls of ours pulled and graded and we’d listen to them with supervisors each week. If we missed out on saying things like that, we’d get graded down. I hated saying that shit, but I wasn’t trying to get fired either.",
">\n\n23 years of call center experience.\nSometimes we really do empathize with you. \n“I know how you feel” is the /worst/ thing you can say to a customer in my opinion.\n“Waiting on the phone for an hour to reach someone is very frustrating Ms Customer. As someone who works on a phone line 12 hours per day, I feel I understand the value of time when as a consumer, I call places to get things accomplished. Let’s get to the bottom of this so we can get your issue resolved.” \nWordier? Yes\nTelling you a lie? No\nAnd @throwawaysecretlove is right.\nDepending on the size of the corporation, they listen for EVERYTHING and will terminate your employment for the stupidest reasons, including not expressing regret or empathizing with customers’ frustrations.\nEdit: phrasing & punctuation on the long sentence in quotes for readability.",
">\n\nFun bit is that measuring customer service is harder than ever now. Folks realize on those surveys that there are only two real options “should the csr keep their job or not” doesn’t really measure how good the service is.",
">\n\nEven in retail it's the same metric. We have a group for reporting surveys that should be removed from our locations grade because it's actually for another location or it's clearly a spam/joke review. The response from the people receiving these reports is typically take the L and the review will drop off in x timeframe.\nBut anything below a high 9.# is a bad review",
">\n\nComedy sci-fi has already discussed how fucking annoying robots with fake personalities are.",
">\n\nI'm shocked.",
">\n\nChatbots are much worse than being on hold or a 10-level phone tree. They never help and then the companies expect you \"Rate your experience\".",
">\n\nImagine being the pornhub engineer who accidentally switches up the customer service bots and sex chat bots…\nFired or promoted, it’s the only options."
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If I sound pleased about this, it's only because my programmers made this my default tone of voice! I'm actually quite depressed!
|
[
"~~Cheerful~~ Chatbots Don’t ~~Necessarily~~ Improve Customer Service",
">\n\nThey do piss off customers. Almost as bad as CSRs who say, \"I know how you feel\".\nWhy do CSRs say such useless drivel to already annoyed customers?",
">\n\nWorked in a call center, and we were told to “empathize” with customers. We would get random calls of ours pulled and graded and we’d listen to them with supervisors each week. If we missed out on saying things like that, we’d get graded down. I hated saying that shit, but I wasn’t trying to get fired either.",
">\n\n23 years of call center experience.\nSometimes we really do empathize with you. \n“I know how you feel” is the /worst/ thing you can say to a customer in my opinion.\n“Waiting on the phone for an hour to reach someone is very frustrating Ms Customer. As someone who works on a phone line 12 hours per day, I feel I understand the value of time when as a consumer, I call places to get things accomplished. Let’s get to the bottom of this so we can get your issue resolved.” \nWordier? Yes\nTelling you a lie? No\nAnd @throwawaysecretlove is right.\nDepending on the size of the corporation, they listen for EVERYTHING and will terminate your employment for the stupidest reasons, including not expressing regret or empathizing with customers’ frustrations.\nEdit: phrasing & punctuation on the long sentence in quotes for readability.",
">\n\nFun bit is that measuring customer service is harder than ever now. Folks realize on those surveys that there are only two real options “should the csr keep their job or not” doesn’t really measure how good the service is.",
">\n\nEven in retail it's the same metric. We have a group for reporting surveys that should be removed from our locations grade because it's actually for another location or it's clearly a spam/joke review. The response from the people receiving these reports is typically take the L and the review will drop off in x timeframe.\nBut anything below a high 9.# is a bad review",
">\n\nComedy sci-fi has already discussed how fucking annoying robots with fake personalities are.",
">\n\nI'm shocked.",
">\n\nChatbots are much worse than being on hold or a 10-level phone tree. They never help and then the companies expect you \"Rate your experience\".",
">\n\nImagine being the pornhub engineer who accidentally switches up the customer service bots and sex chat bots…\nFired or promoted, it’s the only options.",
">\n\nI strongly dislike chat bots. I can actually search a website or read a FAQ. Chat bots are basically FAQs that are fed to you when you enter text."
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It’s not better than the Bangladeshi guy who’s name I strongly suspect is not David. They read the same script.
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[
"~~Cheerful~~ Chatbots Don’t ~~Necessarily~~ Improve Customer Service",
">\n\nThey do piss off customers. Almost as bad as CSRs who say, \"I know how you feel\".\nWhy do CSRs say such useless drivel to already annoyed customers?",
">\n\nWorked in a call center, and we were told to “empathize” with customers. We would get random calls of ours pulled and graded and we’d listen to them with supervisors each week. If we missed out on saying things like that, we’d get graded down. I hated saying that shit, but I wasn’t trying to get fired either.",
">\n\n23 years of call center experience.\nSometimes we really do empathize with you. \n“I know how you feel” is the /worst/ thing you can say to a customer in my opinion.\n“Waiting on the phone for an hour to reach someone is very frustrating Ms Customer. As someone who works on a phone line 12 hours per day, I feel I understand the value of time when as a consumer, I call places to get things accomplished. Let’s get to the bottom of this so we can get your issue resolved.” \nWordier? Yes\nTelling you a lie? No\nAnd @throwawaysecretlove is right.\nDepending on the size of the corporation, they listen for EVERYTHING and will terminate your employment for the stupidest reasons, including not expressing regret or empathizing with customers’ frustrations.\nEdit: phrasing & punctuation on the long sentence in quotes for readability.",
">\n\nFun bit is that measuring customer service is harder than ever now. Folks realize on those surveys that there are only two real options “should the csr keep their job or not” doesn’t really measure how good the service is.",
">\n\nEven in retail it's the same metric. We have a group for reporting surveys that should be removed from our locations grade because it's actually for another location or it's clearly a spam/joke review. The response from the people receiving these reports is typically take the L and the review will drop off in x timeframe.\nBut anything below a high 9.# is a bad review",
">\n\nComedy sci-fi has already discussed how fucking annoying robots with fake personalities are.",
">\n\nI'm shocked.",
">\n\nChatbots are much worse than being on hold or a 10-level phone tree. They never help and then the companies expect you \"Rate your experience\".",
">\n\nImagine being the pornhub engineer who accidentally switches up the customer service bots and sex chat bots…\nFired or promoted, it’s the only options.",
">\n\nI strongly dislike chat bots. I can actually search a website or read a FAQ. Chat bots are basically FAQs that are fed to you when you enter text.",
">\n\nIf I sound pleased about this, it's only because my programmers made this my default tone of voice! I'm actually quite depressed!"
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Not the onion implies something very crazy and unexpected which this is not
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[
"~~Cheerful~~ Chatbots Don’t ~~Necessarily~~ Improve Customer Service",
">\n\nThey do piss off customers. Almost as bad as CSRs who say, \"I know how you feel\".\nWhy do CSRs say such useless drivel to already annoyed customers?",
">\n\nWorked in a call center, and we were told to “empathize” with customers. We would get random calls of ours pulled and graded and we’d listen to them with supervisors each week. If we missed out on saying things like that, we’d get graded down. I hated saying that shit, but I wasn’t trying to get fired either.",
">\n\n23 years of call center experience.\nSometimes we really do empathize with you. \n“I know how you feel” is the /worst/ thing you can say to a customer in my opinion.\n“Waiting on the phone for an hour to reach someone is very frustrating Ms Customer. As someone who works on a phone line 12 hours per day, I feel I understand the value of time when as a consumer, I call places to get things accomplished. Let’s get to the bottom of this so we can get your issue resolved.” \nWordier? Yes\nTelling you a lie? No\nAnd @throwawaysecretlove is right.\nDepending on the size of the corporation, they listen for EVERYTHING and will terminate your employment for the stupidest reasons, including not expressing regret or empathizing with customers’ frustrations.\nEdit: phrasing & punctuation on the long sentence in quotes for readability.",
">\n\nFun bit is that measuring customer service is harder than ever now. Folks realize on those surveys that there are only two real options “should the csr keep their job or not” doesn’t really measure how good the service is.",
">\n\nEven in retail it's the same metric. We have a group for reporting surveys that should be removed from our locations grade because it's actually for another location or it's clearly a spam/joke review. The response from the people receiving these reports is typically take the L and the review will drop off in x timeframe.\nBut anything below a high 9.# is a bad review",
">\n\nComedy sci-fi has already discussed how fucking annoying robots with fake personalities are.",
">\n\nI'm shocked.",
">\n\nChatbots are much worse than being on hold or a 10-level phone tree. They never help and then the companies expect you \"Rate your experience\".",
">\n\nImagine being the pornhub engineer who accidentally switches up the customer service bots and sex chat bots…\nFired or promoted, it’s the only options.",
">\n\nI strongly dislike chat bots. I can actually search a website or read a FAQ. Chat bots are basically FAQs that are fed to you when you enter text.",
">\n\nIf I sound pleased about this, it's only because my programmers made this my default tone of voice! I'm actually quite depressed!",
">\n\nIt’s not better than the Bangladeshi guy who’s name I strongly suspect is not David. They read the same script."
] |
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[
"~~Cheerful~~ Chatbots Don’t ~~Necessarily~~ Improve Customer Service",
">\n\nThey do piss off customers. Almost as bad as CSRs who say, \"I know how you feel\".\nWhy do CSRs say such useless drivel to already annoyed customers?",
">\n\nWorked in a call center, and we were told to “empathize” with customers. We would get random calls of ours pulled and graded and we’d listen to them with supervisors each week. If we missed out on saying things like that, we’d get graded down. I hated saying that shit, but I wasn’t trying to get fired either.",
">\n\n23 years of call center experience.\nSometimes we really do empathize with you. \n“I know how you feel” is the /worst/ thing you can say to a customer in my opinion.\n“Waiting on the phone for an hour to reach someone is very frustrating Ms Customer. As someone who works on a phone line 12 hours per day, I feel I understand the value of time when as a consumer, I call places to get things accomplished. Let’s get to the bottom of this so we can get your issue resolved.” \nWordier? Yes\nTelling you a lie? No\nAnd @throwawaysecretlove is right.\nDepending on the size of the corporation, they listen for EVERYTHING and will terminate your employment for the stupidest reasons, including not expressing regret or empathizing with customers’ frustrations.\nEdit: phrasing & punctuation on the long sentence in quotes for readability.",
">\n\nFun bit is that measuring customer service is harder than ever now. Folks realize on those surveys that there are only two real options “should the csr keep their job or not” doesn’t really measure how good the service is.",
">\n\nEven in retail it's the same metric. We have a group for reporting surveys that should be removed from our locations grade because it's actually for another location or it's clearly a spam/joke review. The response from the people receiving these reports is typically take the L and the review will drop off in x timeframe.\nBut anything below a high 9.# is a bad review",
">\n\nComedy sci-fi has already discussed how fucking annoying robots with fake personalities are.",
">\n\nI'm shocked.",
">\n\nChatbots are much worse than being on hold or a 10-level phone tree. They never help and then the companies expect you \"Rate your experience\".",
">\n\nImagine being the pornhub engineer who accidentally switches up the customer service bots and sex chat bots…\nFired or promoted, it’s the only options.",
">\n\nI strongly dislike chat bots. I can actually search a website or read a FAQ. Chat bots are basically FAQs that are fed to you when you enter text.",
">\n\nIf I sound pleased about this, it's only because my programmers made this my default tone of voice! I'm actually quite depressed!",
">\n\nIt’s not better than the Bangladeshi guy who’s name I strongly suspect is not David. They read the same script.",
">\n\nNot the onion implies something very crazy and unexpected which this is not"
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Tried to Google it. Says that skin is rarely intact all the more the color.
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Yea, true. As I say, very rare. But possible. It's also not beyond the realm of possibility that better techniques for analysing fossils we already have will grant us a better idea in the future.
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">\n\nTried to Google it. Says that skin is rarely intact all the more the color."
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">\n\nTried to Google it. Says that skin is rarely intact all the more the color.",
">\n\nYea, true. As I say, very rare. But possible. It's also not beyond the realm of possibility that better techniques for analysing fossils we already have will grant us a better idea in the future."
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Monk parakeets have established perches in Miami, New York and other cities. But the colony underneath the Skyway, where the birds build their nests among the concrete and steel supports several stories off the ground, is one of the more improbable spots they scratch out a living.
Somehow the image of escaped tropical birds surviving and even thriving in the sub-zero conditions of Chicago in winter gives me hope. Hope they continue to thrive!
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On the Northside, there are a bunch in Cell Towers. The last group I saw was along the North Branch. There were a few starting south of Devon (West Rodgers Park), and going north up through Lincolnwood.
Not sure how they do it. Their nests are kinda big.
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Do the towers emit some warmth from the machinery?
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">\n\nOn the Northside, there are a bunch in Cell Towers. The last group I saw was along the North Branch. There were a few starting south of Devon (West Rodgers Park), and going north up through Lincolnwood. \nNot sure how they do it. Their nests are kinda big."
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Probably (really have no idea). I'm guessing dozens of birds in a nest huddled is a big part.
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">\n\nOn the Northside, there are a bunch in Cell Towers. The last group I saw was along the North Branch. There were a few starting south of Devon (West Rodgers Park), and going north up through Lincolnwood. \nNot sure how they do it. Their nests are kinda big.",
">\n\nDo the towers emit some warmth from the machinery?"
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Not only in New York, we have em in New Jersey along the river. You can see their giant nests on telephone poles in edgewater
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">\n\nOn the Northside, there are a bunch in Cell Towers. The last group I saw was along the North Branch. There were a few starting south of Devon (West Rodgers Park), and going north up through Lincolnwood. \nNot sure how they do it. Their nests are kinda big.",
">\n\nDo the towers emit some warmth from the machinery?",
">\n\nProbably (really have no idea). I'm guessing dozens of birds in a nest huddled is a big part."
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There are loads in Greenwood Cemetery in Brooklyn. I believe they're from higher altitudes where it does actually get cold.
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">\n\nOn the Northside, there are a bunch in Cell Towers. The last group I saw was along the North Branch. There were a few starting south of Devon (West Rodgers Park), and going north up through Lincolnwood. \nNot sure how they do it. Their nests are kinda big.",
">\n\nDo the towers emit some warmth from the machinery?",
">\n\nProbably (really have no idea). I'm guessing dozens of birds in a nest huddled is a big part.",
">\n\nNot only in New York, we have em in New Jersey along the river. You can see their giant nests on telephone poles in edgewater"
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LA has parrots. They're fkn loud! And argue, lined up on phone lines. Once in a while one will whack another, and it will spin on the wire, gripped with two feet, like in a cartoon.
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">\n\nOn the Northside, there are a bunch in Cell Towers. The last group I saw was along the North Branch. There were a few starting south of Devon (West Rodgers Park), and going north up through Lincolnwood. \nNot sure how they do it. Their nests are kinda big.",
">\n\nDo the towers emit some warmth from the machinery?",
">\n\nProbably (really have no idea). I'm guessing dozens of birds in a nest huddled is a big part.",
">\n\nNot only in New York, we have em in New Jersey along the river. You can see their giant nests on telephone poles in edgewater",
">\n\nThere are loads in Greenwood Cemetery in Brooklyn. I believe they're from higher altitudes where it does actually get cold."
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We had a huge colony in Rhode Island too but I think they were "moved along" elsewhere -- a loss imo
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">\n\nOn the Northside, there are a bunch in Cell Towers. The last group I saw was along the North Branch. There were a few starting south of Devon (West Rodgers Park), and going north up through Lincolnwood. \nNot sure how they do it. Their nests are kinda big.",
">\n\nDo the towers emit some warmth from the machinery?",
">\n\nProbably (really have no idea). I'm guessing dozens of birds in a nest huddled is a big part.",
">\n\nNot only in New York, we have em in New Jersey along the river. You can see their giant nests on telephone poles in edgewater",
">\n\nThere are loads in Greenwood Cemetery in Brooklyn. I believe they're from higher altitudes where it does actually get cold.",
">\n\nLA has parrots. They're fkn loud! And argue, lined up on phone lines. Once in a while one will whack another, and it will spin on the wire, gripped with two feet, like in a cartoon."
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">\n\nOn the Northside, there are a bunch in Cell Towers. The last group I saw was along the North Branch. There were a few starting south of Devon (West Rodgers Park), and going north up through Lincolnwood. \nNot sure how they do it. Their nests are kinda big.",
">\n\nDo the towers emit some warmth from the machinery?",
">\n\nProbably (really have no idea). I'm guessing dozens of birds in a nest huddled is a big part.",
">\n\nNot only in New York, we have em in New Jersey along the river. You can see their giant nests on telephone poles in edgewater",
">\n\nThere are loads in Greenwood Cemetery in Brooklyn. I believe they're from higher altitudes where it does actually get cold.",
">\n\nLA has parrots. They're fkn loud! And argue, lined up on phone lines. Once in a while one will whack another, and it will spin on the wire, gripped with two feet, like in a cartoon.",
">\n\nWe had a huge colony in Rhode Island too but I think they were \"moved along\" elsewhere -- a loss imo"
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They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.
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It’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.
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It only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.
I don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole "independent" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.
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Russia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.
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">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine."
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I thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?
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">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted."
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Running out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.
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"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?"
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They've been running out, according to the experts, since march.
They just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.
You're also saying the same thing.
Same with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.
It's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides.
Let's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.
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"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready."
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They've been running out, according to the experts, since march.
Not according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.
No experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March.
Likewise with this:
Same with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.
There aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid.
Look at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.
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">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked."
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People already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.
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">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line."
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We lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.
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">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job."
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Now Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.
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">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city."
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And they'll hit a military target.
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">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair."
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And 8 boats will spontaneously sink.
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[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target."
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>
And 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink."
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And 9 tank turrets will take off
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows."
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5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off"
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Omg THAT was golden.
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[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait"
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Imagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden."
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They’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow...."
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"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'"
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles"
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Amazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\""
] |
>
You miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”"
] |
>
As we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?"
] |
>
That bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery"
] |
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They were producing muffins of mass destruction!
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men"
] |
>
Russia is such a piece of shit.
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!"
] |
>
Let’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces.
Ukraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing.
Fuck Russia.
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit."
] |
>
Don't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia."
] |
>
Russia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale."
] |
>
If genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan."
] |
>
Agreed.
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population"
] |
>
Every time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed."
] |
>
Eventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child."
] |
>
Especially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour."
] |
>
I know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind)
There’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives."
] |
>
I don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing."
] |
>
An assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault..."
] |
>
I think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out."
] |
>
Give them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?"
] |
>
This pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line.
Quick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are.
The irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore.
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out."
] |
>
Is more like "we can't kill the soldiers, then try with their family". Typical mafia coward methods.
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.",
">\n\nThis pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line. \nQuick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are. \nThe irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore."
] |
>
Kill them before they become soldiers
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.",
">\n\nThis pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line. \nQuick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are. \nThe irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore.",
">\n\nIs more like \"we can't kill the soldiers, then try with their family\". Typical mafia coward methods."
] |
>
Thats how you get more volunteers to become soldiers out of vengeance 💀
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.",
">\n\nThis pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line. \nQuick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are. \nThe irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore.",
">\n\nIs more like \"we can't kill the soldiers, then try with their family\". Typical mafia coward methods.",
">\n\nKill them before they become soldiers"
] |
>
Of course. But they need to learn the same lessons we learned in the Middle East and every single war we ever fight. Apparently no one learns that lesson lol
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.",
">\n\nThis pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line. \nQuick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are. \nThe irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore.",
">\n\nIs more like \"we can't kill the soldiers, then try with their family\". Typical mafia coward methods.",
">\n\nKill them before they become soldiers",
">\n\nThats how you get more volunteers to become soldiers out of vengeance 💀"
] |
>
But remember this is not a war guyz…
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.",
">\n\nThis pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line. \nQuick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are. \nThe irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore.",
">\n\nIs more like \"we can't kill the soldiers, then try with their family\". Typical mafia coward methods.",
">\n\nKill them before they become soldiers",
">\n\nThats how you get more volunteers to become soldiers out of vengeance 💀",
">\n\nOf course. But they need to learn the same lessons we learned in the Middle East and every single war we ever fight. Apparently no one learns that lesson lol"
] |
>
It’s a terrorist attack.
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.",
">\n\nThis pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line. \nQuick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are. \nThe irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore.",
">\n\nIs more like \"we can't kill the soldiers, then try with their family\". Typical mafia coward methods.",
">\n\nKill them before they become soldiers",
">\n\nThats how you get more volunteers to become soldiers out of vengeance 💀",
">\n\nOf course. But they need to learn the same lessons we learned in the Middle East and every single war we ever fight. Apparently no one learns that lesson lol",
">\n\nBut remember this is not a war guyz…"
] |
>
I am no war expert, but wouldn't it be more effective to drop those bombs on military targets instead? Surely bombing schools and random apartments won't do shit. Just makes the people in Ukraine more pissed off.
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.",
">\n\nThis pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line. \nQuick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are. \nThe irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore.",
">\n\nIs more like \"we can't kill the soldiers, then try with their family\". Typical mafia coward methods.",
">\n\nKill them before they become soldiers",
">\n\nThats how you get more volunteers to become soldiers out of vengeance 💀",
">\n\nOf course. But they need to learn the same lessons we learned in the Middle East and every single war we ever fight. Apparently no one learns that lesson lol",
">\n\nBut remember this is not a war guyz…",
">\n\nIt’s a terrorist attack."
] |
>
It won't. The logic behind it(intimidating your opponent into giving up because the cost of continuing to fight is too high on civilians) sounds sound...but just isn't backed up by data. No bombing campaign on civilian centers or infrastructure ever made the nation give up(not even the nukes being dropped on japan directly caused it, it was just the final nail in the coffin due to Japanase already having lost militarily clearly and just couldn't agree internally on what kind of peace they want). Heck usually even it's impact on the nation's ability to produce military goods is relativly minor(some factories in germany got bombed literally dozens of times throughout the war but still continued producing, even if at reduced capacity).
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.",
">\n\nThis pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line. \nQuick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are. \nThe irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore.",
">\n\nIs more like \"we can't kill the soldiers, then try with their family\". Typical mafia coward methods.",
">\n\nKill them before they become soldiers",
">\n\nThats how you get more volunteers to become soldiers out of vengeance 💀",
">\n\nOf course. But they need to learn the same lessons we learned in the Middle East and every single war we ever fight. Apparently no one learns that lesson lol",
">\n\nBut remember this is not a war guyz…",
">\n\nIt’s a terrorist attack.",
">\n\nI am no war expert, but wouldn't it be more effective to drop those bombs on military targets instead? Surely bombing schools and random apartments won't do shit. Just makes the people in Ukraine more pissed off."
] |
>
You say this like America doesn't immediately target this kind of infrastructure during its wars, too.
This is standard wartime assholery.
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.",
">\n\nThis pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line. \nQuick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are. \nThe irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore.",
">\n\nIs more like \"we can't kill the soldiers, then try with their family\". Typical mafia coward methods.",
">\n\nKill them before they become soldiers",
">\n\nThats how you get more volunteers to become soldiers out of vengeance 💀",
">\n\nOf course. But they need to learn the same lessons we learned in the Middle East and every single war we ever fight. Apparently no one learns that lesson lol",
">\n\nBut remember this is not a war guyz…",
">\n\nIt’s a terrorist attack.",
">\n\nI am no war expert, but wouldn't it be more effective to drop those bombs on military targets instead? Surely bombing schools and random apartments won't do shit. Just makes the people in Ukraine more pissed off.",
">\n\nIt won't. The logic behind it(intimidating your opponent into giving up because the cost of continuing to fight is too high on civilians) sounds sound...but just isn't backed up by data. No bombing campaign on civilian centers or infrastructure ever made the nation give up(not even the nukes being dropped on japan directly caused it, it was just the final nail in the coffin due to Japanase already having lost militarily clearly and just couldn't agree internally on what kind of peace they want). Heck usually even it's impact on the nation's ability to produce military goods is relativly minor(some factories in germany got bombed literally dozens of times throughout the war but still continued producing, even if at reduced capacity)."
] |
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If it was just the infrastructure, fine. But they are targeting civilian buildings on purpose. That's just terrorism.
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.",
">\n\nThis pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line. \nQuick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are. \nThe irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore.",
">\n\nIs more like \"we can't kill the soldiers, then try with their family\". Typical mafia coward methods.",
">\n\nKill them before they become soldiers",
">\n\nThats how you get more volunteers to become soldiers out of vengeance 💀",
">\n\nOf course. But they need to learn the same lessons we learned in the Middle East and every single war we ever fight. Apparently no one learns that lesson lol",
">\n\nBut remember this is not a war guyz…",
">\n\nIt’s a terrorist attack.",
">\n\nI am no war expert, but wouldn't it be more effective to drop those bombs on military targets instead? Surely bombing schools and random apartments won't do shit. Just makes the people in Ukraine more pissed off.",
">\n\nIt won't. The logic behind it(intimidating your opponent into giving up because the cost of continuing to fight is too high on civilians) sounds sound...but just isn't backed up by data. No bombing campaign on civilian centers or infrastructure ever made the nation give up(not even the nukes being dropped on japan directly caused it, it was just the final nail in the coffin due to Japanase already having lost militarily clearly and just couldn't agree internally on what kind of peace they want). Heck usually even it's impact on the nation's ability to produce military goods is relativly minor(some factories in germany got bombed literally dozens of times throughout the war but still continued producing, even if at reduced capacity).",
">\n\nYou say this like America doesn't immediately target this kind of infrastructure during its wars, too.\nThis is standard wartime assholery."
] |
>
Russia doesn't have the force saturation capable of destroying or suppressing Ukrainian infrastructure at least not across the whole country nor for very long. A decently sized missile attack about 1-2 times a month will damage and disrupt the situation temporarily but most shit is either fixed, replaced or supplemented by another part of the energy grid. Not to mention if Ukraine is to be believed between 50-85% of drones and missiles are destroyed with the percentage only going up. The worst it got was October/November when 40-50% of the Grid was damaged in some way. But Ukraine is getting more air defense and the number of destroyed missiles is only getting higher.
Not to mention they can't directly blow up Ukrainian Nuclear power plants either which are also supplying a ton of electric power.
It'd would need something akin to the USAF and RAF 1944-1945 level of consistency and power to actually wear down Ukraine and even then it would take months to actually have an affect on the front.
The most this does is make Ukraine use up it's air defence systems and rockets which is why Gepard Anti air systems and western supplied air defense systems have been going into Ukraine basically negating the the losses Ukraine suffers in attrition. We need to send Ukraine more of these systems.
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.",
">\n\nThis pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line. \nQuick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are. \nThe irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore.",
">\n\nIs more like \"we can't kill the soldiers, then try with their family\". Typical mafia coward methods.",
">\n\nKill them before they become soldiers",
">\n\nThats how you get more volunteers to become soldiers out of vengeance 💀",
">\n\nOf course. But they need to learn the same lessons we learned in the Middle East and every single war we ever fight. Apparently no one learns that lesson lol",
">\n\nBut remember this is not a war guyz…",
">\n\nIt’s a terrorist attack.",
">\n\nI am no war expert, but wouldn't it be more effective to drop those bombs on military targets instead? Surely bombing schools and random apartments won't do shit. Just makes the people in Ukraine more pissed off.",
">\n\nIt won't. The logic behind it(intimidating your opponent into giving up because the cost of continuing to fight is too high on civilians) sounds sound...but just isn't backed up by data. No bombing campaign on civilian centers or infrastructure ever made the nation give up(not even the nukes being dropped on japan directly caused it, it was just the final nail in the coffin due to Japanase already having lost militarily clearly and just couldn't agree internally on what kind of peace they want). Heck usually even it's impact on the nation's ability to produce military goods is relativly minor(some factories in germany got bombed literally dozens of times throughout the war but still continued producing, even if at reduced capacity).",
">\n\nYou say this like America doesn't immediately target this kind of infrastructure during its wars, too.\nThis is standard wartime assholery.",
">\n\nIf it was just the infrastructure, fine. But they are targeting civilian buildings on purpose. That's just terrorism."
] |
>
Enough to cover all of Ukraine please. Then ruzzia has nothing left... unless they want ww3 knowing they would be decimated by NATO
|
[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.",
">\n\nThis pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line. \nQuick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are. \nThe irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore.",
">\n\nIs more like \"we can't kill the soldiers, then try with their family\". Typical mafia coward methods.",
">\n\nKill them before they become soldiers",
">\n\nThats how you get more volunteers to become soldiers out of vengeance 💀",
">\n\nOf course. But they need to learn the same lessons we learned in the Middle East and every single war we ever fight. Apparently no one learns that lesson lol",
">\n\nBut remember this is not a war guyz…",
">\n\nIt’s a terrorist attack.",
">\n\nI am no war expert, but wouldn't it be more effective to drop those bombs on military targets instead? Surely bombing schools and random apartments won't do shit. Just makes the people in Ukraine more pissed off.",
">\n\nIt won't. The logic behind it(intimidating your opponent into giving up because the cost of continuing to fight is too high on civilians) sounds sound...but just isn't backed up by data. No bombing campaign on civilian centers or infrastructure ever made the nation give up(not even the nukes being dropped on japan directly caused it, it was just the final nail in the coffin due to Japanase already having lost militarily clearly and just couldn't agree internally on what kind of peace they want). Heck usually even it's impact on the nation's ability to produce military goods is relativly minor(some factories in germany got bombed literally dozens of times throughout the war but still continued producing, even if at reduced capacity).",
">\n\nYou say this like America doesn't immediately target this kind of infrastructure during its wars, too.\nThis is standard wartime assholery.",
">\n\nIf it was just the infrastructure, fine. But they are targeting civilian buildings on purpose. That's just terrorism.",
">\n\nRussia doesn't have the force saturation capable of destroying or suppressing Ukrainian infrastructure at least not across the whole country nor for very long. A decently sized missile attack about 1-2 times a month will damage and disrupt the situation temporarily but most shit is either fixed, replaced or supplemented by another part of the energy grid. Not to mention if Ukraine is to be believed between 50-85% of drones and missiles are destroyed with the percentage only going up. The worst it got was October/November when 40-50% of the Grid was damaged in some way. But Ukraine is getting more air defense and the number of destroyed missiles is only getting higher.\nNot to mention they can't directly blow up Ukrainian Nuclear power plants either which are also supplying a ton of electric power.\nIt'd would need something akin to the USAF and RAF 1944-1945 level of consistency and power to actually wear down Ukraine and even then it would take months to actually have an affect on the front.\nThe most this does is make Ukraine use up it's air defence systems and rockets which is why Gepard Anti air systems and western supplied air defense systems have been going into Ukraine basically negating the the losses Ukraine suffers in attrition. We need to send Ukraine more of these systems."
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Ukraine needs to send the same amount of naval drone boats to Novorussysk oil ports.
Fuck Pootin.
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[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.",
">\n\nThis pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line. \nQuick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are. \nThe irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore.",
">\n\nIs more like \"we can't kill the soldiers, then try with their family\". Typical mafia coward methods.",
">\n\nKill them before they become soldiers",
">\n\nThats how you get more volunteers to become soldiers out of vengeance 💀",
">\n\nOf course. But they need to learn the same lessons we learned in the Middle East and every single war we ever fight. Apparently no one learns that lesson lol",
">\n\nBut remember this is not a war guyz…",
">\n\nIt’s a terrorist attack.",
">\n\nI am no war expert, but wouldn't it be more effective to drop those bombs on military targets instead? Surely bombing schools and random apartments won't do shit. Just makes the people in Ukraine more pissed off.",
">\n\nIt won't. The logic behind it(intimidating your opponent into giving up because the cost of continuing to fight is too high on civilians) sounds sound...but just isn't backed up by data. No bombing campaign on civilian centers or infrastructure ever made the nation give up(not even the nukes being dropped on japan directly caused it, it was just the final nail in the coffin due to Japanase already having lost militarily clearly and just couldn't agree internally on what kind of peace they want). Heck usually even it's impact on the nation's ability to produce military goods is relativly minor(some factories in germany got bombed literally dozens of times throughout the war but still continued producing, even if at reduced capacity).",
">\n\nYou say this like America doesn't immediately target this kind of infrastructure during its wars, too.\nThis is standard wartime assholery.",
">\n\nIf it was just the infrastructure, fine. But they are targeting civilian buildings on purpose. That's just terrorism.",
">\n\nRussia doesn't have the force saturation capable of destroying or suppressing Ukrainian infrastructure at least not across the whole country nor for very long. A decently sized missile attack about 1-2 times a month will damage and disrupt the situation temporarily but most shit is either fixed, replaced or supplemented by another part of the energy grid. Not to mention if Ukraine is to be believed between 50-85% of drones and missiles are destroyed with the percentage only going up. The worst it got was October/November when 40-50% of the Grid was damaged in some way. But Ukraine is getting more air defense and the number of destroyed missiles is only getting higher.\nNot to mention they can't directly blow up Ukrainian Nuclear power plants either which are also supplying a ton of electric power.\nIt'd would need something akin to the USAF and RAF 1944-1945 level of consistency and power to actually wear down Ukraine and even then it would take months to actually have an affect on the front.\nThe most this does is make Ukraine use up it's air defence systems and rockets which is why Gepard Anti air systems and western supplied air defense systems have been going into Ukraine basically negating the the losses Ukraine suffers in attrition. We need to send Ukraine more of these systems.",
">\n\nEnough to cover all of Ukraine please. Then ruzzia has nothing left... unless they want ww3 knowing they would be decimated by NATO"
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Congratulations Putin, you have only hardened Ukraine's resolve and pointed more guns at yourself.
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[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.",
">\n\nThis pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line. \nQuick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are. \nThe irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore.",
">\n\nIs more like \"we can't kill the soldiers, then try with their family\". Typical mafia coward methods.",
">\n\nKill them before they become soldiers",
">\n\nThats how you get more volunteers to become soldiers out of vengeance 💀",
">\n\nOf course. But they need to learn the same lessons we learned in the Middle East and every single war we ever fight. Apparently no one learns that lesson lol",
">\n\nBut remember this is not a war guyz…",
">\n\nIt’s a terrorist attack.",
">\n\nI am no war expert, but wouldn't it be more effective to drop those bombs on military targets instead? Surely bombing schools and random apartments won't do shit. Just makes the people in Ukraine more pissed off.",
">\n\nIt won't. The logic behind it(intimidating your opponent into giving up because the cost of continuing to fight is too high on civilians) sounds sound...but just isn't backed up by data. No bombing campaign on civilian centers or infrastructure ever made the nation give up(not even the nukes being dropped on japan directly caused it, it was just the final nail in the coffin due to Japanase already having lost militarily clearly and just couldn't agree internally on what kind of peace they want). Heck usually even it's impact on the nation's ability to produce military goods is relativly minor(some factories in germany got bombed literally dozens of times throughout the war but still continued producing, even if at reduced capacity).",
">\n\nYou say this like America doesn't immediately target this kind of infrastructure during its wars, too.\nThis is standard wartime assholery.",
">\n\nIf it was just the infrastructure, fine. But they are targeting civilian buildings on purpose. That's just terrorism.",
">\n\nRussia doesn't have the force saturation capable of destroying or suppressing Ukrainian infrastructure at least not across the whole country nor for very long. A decently sized missile attack about 1-2 times a month will damage and disrupt the situation temporarily but most shit is either fixed, replaced or supplemented by another part of the energy grid. Not to mention if Ukraine is to be believed between 50-85% of drones and missiles are destroyed with the percentage only going up. The worst it got was October/November when 40-50% of the Grid was damaged in some way. But Ukraine is getting more air defense and the number of destroyed missiles is only getting higher.\nNot to mention they can't directly blow up Ukrainian Nuclear power plants either which are also supplying a ton of electric power.\nIt'd would need something akin to the USAF and RAF 1944-1945 level of consistency and power to actually wear down Ukraine and even then it would take months to actually have an affect on the front.\nThe most this does is make Ukraine use up it's air defence systems and rockets which is why Gepard Anti air systems and western supplied air defense systems have been going into Ukraine basically negating the the losses Ukraine suffers in attrition. We need to send Ukraine more of these systems.",
">\n\nEnough to cover all of Ukraine please. Then ruzzia has nothing left... unless they want ww3 knowing they would be decimated by NATO",
">\n\nUkraine needs to send the same amount of naval drone boats to Novorussysk oil ports. \nFuck Pootin."
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Do we have a problem?
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[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.",
">\n\nThis pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line. \nQuick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are. \nThe irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore.",
">\n\nIs more like \"we can't kill the soldiers, then try with their family\". Typical mafia coward methods.",
">\n\nKill them before they become soldiers",
">\n\nThats how you get more volunteers to become soldiers out of vengeance 💀",
">\n\nOf course. But they need to learn the same lessons we learned in the Middle East and every single war we ever fight. Apparently no one learns that lesson lol",
">\n\nBut remember this is not a war guyz…",
">\n\nIt’s a terrorist attack.",
">\n\nI am no war expert, but wouldn't it be more effective to drop those bombs on military targets instead? Surely bombing schools and random apartments won't do shit. Just makes the people in Ukraine more pissed off.",
">\n\nIt won't. The logic behind it(intimidating your opponent into giving up because the cost of continuing to fight is too high on civilians) sounds sound...but just isn't backed up by data. No bombing campaign on civilian centers or infrastructure ever made the nation give up(not even the nukes being dropped on japan directly caused it, it was just the final nail in the coffin due to Japanase already having lost militarily clearly and just couldn't agree internally on what kind of peace they want). Heck usually even it's impact on the nation's ability to produce military goods is relativly minor(some factories in germany got bombed literally dozens of times throughout the war but still continued producing, even if at reduced capacity).",
">\n\nYou say this like America doesn't immediately target this kind of infrastructure during its wars, too.\nThis is standard wartime assholery.",
">\n\nIf it was just the infrastructure, fine. But they are targeting civilian buildings on purpose. That's just terrorism.",
">\n\nRussia doesn't have the force saturation capable of destroying or suppressing Ukrainian infrastructure at least not across the whole country nor for very long. A decently sized missile attack about 1-2 times a month will damage and disrupt the situation temporarily but most shit is either fixed, replaced or supplemented by another part of the energy grid. Not to mention if Ukraine is to be believed between 50-85% of drones and missiles are destroyed with the percentage only going up. The worst it got was October/November when 40-50% of the Grid was damaged in some way. But Ukraine is getting more air defense and the number of destroyed missiles is only getting higher.\nNot to mention they can't directly blow up Ukrainian Nuclear power plants either which are also supplying a ton of electric power.\nIt'd would need something akin to the USAF and RAF 1944-1945 level of consistency and power to actually wear down Ukraine and even then it would take months to actually have an affect on the front.\nThe most this does is make Ukraine use up it's air defence systems and rockets which is why Gepard Anti air systems and western supplied air defense systems have been going into Ukraine basically negating the the losses Ukraine suffers in attrition. We need to send Ukraine more of these systems.",
">\n\nEnough to cover all of Ukraine please. Then ruzzia has nothing left... unless they want ww3 knowing they would be decimated by NATO",
">\n\nUkraine needs to send the same amount of naval drone boats to Novorussysk oil ports. \nFuck Pootin.",
">\n\nCongratulations Putin, you have only hardened Ukraine's resolve and pointed more guns at yourself."
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If Russians know whats good for them, they should keep what they have got
Long wars always favor the defenders
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[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.",
">\n\nThis pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line. \nQuick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are. \nThe irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore.",
">\n\nIs more like \"we can't kill the soldiers, then try with their family\". Typical mafia coward methods.",
">\n\nKill them before they become soldiers",
">\n\nThats how you get more volunteers to become soldiers out of vengeance 💀",
">\n\nOf course. But they need to learn the same lessons we learned in the Middle East and every single war we ever fight. Apparently no one learns that lesson lol",
">\n\nBut remember this is not a war guyz…",
">\n\nIt’s a terrorist attack.",
">\n\nI am no war expert, but wouldn't it be more effective to drop those bombs on military targets instead? Surely bombing schools and random apartments won't do shit. Just makes the people in Ukraine more pissed off.",
">\n\nIt won't. The logic behind it(intimidating your opponent into giving up because the cost of continuing to fight is too high on civilians) sounds sound...but just isn't backed up by data. No bombing campaign on civilian centers or infrastructure ever made the nation give up(not even the nukes being dropped on japan directly caused it, it was just the final nail in the coffin due to Japanase already having lost militarily clearly and just couldn't agree internally on what kind of peace they want). Heck usually even it's impact on the nation's ability to produce military goods is relativly minor(some factories in germany got bombed literally dozens of times throughout the war but still continued producing, even if at reduced capacity).",
">\n\nYou say this like America doesn't immediately target this kind of infrastructure during its wars, too.\nThis is standard wartime assholery.",
">\n\nIf it was just the infrastructure, fine. But they are targeting civilian buildings on purpose. That's just terrorism.",
">\n\nRussia doesn't have the force saturation capable of destroying or suppressing Ukrainian infrastructure at least not across the whole country nor for very long. A decently sized missile attack about 1-2 times a month will damage and disrupt the situation temporarily but most shit is either fixed, replaced or supplemented by another part of the energy grid. Not to mention if Ukraine is to be believed between 50-85% of drones and missiles are destroyed with the percentage only going up. The worst it got was October/November when 40-50% of the Grid was damaged in some way. But Ukraine is getting more air defense and the number of destroyed missiles is only getting higher.\nNot to mention they can't directly blow up Ukrainian Nuclear power plants either which are also supplying a ton of electric power.\nIt'd would need something akin to the USAF and RAF 1944-1945 level of consistency and power to actually wear down Ukraine and even then it would take months to actually have an affect on the front.\nThe most this does is make Ukraine use up it's air defence systems and rockets which is why Gepard Anti air systems and western supplied air defense systems have been going into Ukraine basically negating the the losses Ukraine suffers in attrition. We need to send Ukraine more of these systems.",
">\n\nEnough to cover all of Ukraine please. Then ruzzia has nothing left... unless they want ww3 knowing they would be decimated by NATO",
">\n\nUkraine needs to send the same amount of naval drone boats to Novorussysk oil ports. \nFuck Pootin.",
">\n\nCongratulations Putin, you have only hardened Ukraine's resolve and pointed more guns at yourself.",
">\n\nDo we have a problem?"
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Putin can suck my shriveled dick.
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[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.",
">\n\nThis pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line. \nQuick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are. \nThe irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore.",
">\n\nIs more like \"we can't kill the soldiers, then try with their family\". Typical mafia coward methods.",
">\n\nKill them before they become soldiers",
">\n\nThats how you get more volunteers to become soldiers out of vengeance 💀",
">\n\nOf course. But they need to learn the same lessons we learned in the Middle East and every single war we ever fight. Apparently no one learns that lesson lol",
">\n\nBut remember this is not a war guyz…",
">\n\nIt’s a terrorist attack.",
">\n\nI am no war expert, but wouldn't it be more effective to drop those bombs on military targets instead? Surely bombing schools and random apartments won't do shit. Just makes the people in Ukraine more pissed off.",
">\n\nIt won't. The logic behind it(intimidating your opponent into giving up because the cost of continuing to fight is too high on civilians) sounds sound...but just isn't backed up by data. No bombing campaign on civilian centers or infrastructure ever made the nation give up(not even the nukes being dropped on japan directly caused it, it was just the final nail in the coffin due to Japanase already having lost militarily clearly and just couldn't agree internally on what kind of peace they want). Heck usually even it's impact on the nation's ability to produce military goods is relativly minor(some factories in germany got bombed literally dozens of times throughout the war but still continued producing, even if at reduced capacity).",
">\n\nYou say this like America doesn't immediately target this kind of infrastructure during its wars, too.\nThis is standard wartime assholery.",
">\n\nIf it was just the infrastructure, fine. But they are targeting civilian buildings on purpose. That's just terrorism.",
">\n\nRussia doesn't have the force saturation capable of destroying or suppressing Ukrainian infrastructure at least not across the whole country nor for very long. A decently sized missile attack about 1-2 times a month will damage and disrupt the situation temporarily but most shit is either fixed, replaced or supplemented by another part of the energy grid. Not to mention if Ukraine is to be believed between 50-85% of drones and missiles are destroyed with the percentage only going up. The worst it got was October/November when 40-50% of the Grid was damaged in some way. But Ukraine is getting more air defense and the number of destroyed missiles is only getting higher.\nNot to mention they can't directly blow up Ukrainian Nuclear power plants either which are also supplying a ton of electric power.\nIt'd would need something akin to the USAF and RAF 1944-1945 level of consistency and power to actually wear down Ukraine and even then it would take months to actually have an affect on the front.\nThe most this does is make Ukraine use up it's air defence systems and rockets which is why Gepard Anti air systems and western supplied air defense systems have been going into Ukraine basically negating the the losses Ukraine suffers in attrition. We need to send Ukraine more of these systems.",
">\n\nEnough to cover all of Ukraine please. Then ruzzia has nothing left... unless they want ww3 knowing they would be decimated by NATO",
">\n\nUkraine needs to send the same amount of naval drone boats to Novorussysk oil ports. \nFuck Pootin.",
">\n\nCongratulations Putin, you have only hardened Ukraine's resolve and pointed more guns at yourself.",
">\n\nDo we have a problem?",
">\n\nIf Russians know whats good for them, they should keep what they have got\nLong wars always favor the defenders"
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As a Russian I think he can suck a gun barrel, shriveled or not 🤷♂️
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[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.",
">\n\nThis pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line. \nQuick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are. \nThe irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore.",
">\n\nIs more like \"we can't kill the soldiers, then try with their family\". Typical mafia coward methods.",
">\n\nKill them before they become soldiers",
">\n\nThats how you get more volunteers to become soldiers out of vengeance 💀",
">\n\nOf course. But they need to learn the same lessons we learned in the Middle East and every single war we ever fight. Apparently no one learns that lesson lol",
">\n\nBut remember this is not a war guyz…",
">\n\nIt’s a terrorist attack.",
">\n\nI am no war expert, but wouldn't it be more effective to drop those bombs on military targets instead? Surely bombing schools and random apartments won't do shit. Just makes the people in Ukraine more pissed off.",
">\n\nIt won't. The logic behind it(intimidating your opponent into giving up because the cost of continuing to fight is too high on civilians) sounds sound...but just isn't backed up by data. No bombing campaign on civilian centers or infrastructure ever made the nation give up(not even the nukes being dropped on japan directly caused it, it was just the final nail in the coffin due to Japanase already having lost militarily clearly and just couldn't agree internally on what kind of peace they want). Heck usually even it's impact on the nation's ability to produce military goods is relativly minor(some factories in germany got bombed literally dozens of times throughout the war but still continued producing, even if at reduced capacity).",
">\n\nYou say this like America doesn't immediately target this kind of infrastructure during its wars, too.\nThis is standard wartime assholery.",
">\n\nIf it was just the infrastructure, fine. But they are targeting civilian buildings on purpose. That's just terrorism.",
">\n\nRussia doesn't have the force saturation capable of destroying or suppressing Ukrainian infrastructure at least not across the whole country nor for very long. A decently sized missile attack about 1-2 times a month will damage and disrupt the situation temporarily but most shit is either fixed, replaced or supplemented by another part of the energy grid. Not to mention if Ukraine is to be believed between 50-85% of drones and missiles are destroyed with the percentage only going up. The worst it got was October/November when 40-50% of the Grid was damaged in some way. But Ukraine is getting more air defense and the number of destroyed missiles is only getting higher.\nNot to mention they can't directly blow up Ukrainian Nuclear power plants either which are also supplying a ton of electric power.\nIt'd would need something akin to the USAF and RAF 1944-1945 level of consistency and power to actually wear down Ukraine and even then it would take months to actually have an affect on the front.\nThe most this does is make Ukraine use up it's air defence systems and rockets which is why Gepard Anti air systems and western supplied air defense systems have been going into Ukraine basically negating the the losses Ukraine suffers in attrition. We need to send Ukraine more of these systems.",
">\n\nEnough to cover all of Ukraine please. Then ruzzia has nothing left... unless they want ww3 knowing they would be decimated by NATO",
">\n\nUkraine needs to send the same amount of naval drone boats to Novorussysk oil ports. \nFuck Pootin.",
">\n\nCongratulations Putin, you have only hardened Ukraine's resolve and pointed more guns at yourself.",
">\n\nDo we have a problem?",
">\n\nIf Russians know whats good for them, they should keep what they have got\nLong wars always favor the defenders",
">\n\nPutin can suck my shriveled dick."
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He should be strapped to the same missiles that are being lauched at Ukraine, except aimed and lauched at his vanity bridge (Kerch bridge that is). Two birds, one missile
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[
"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.",
">\n\nThis pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line. \nQuick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are. \nThe irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore.",
">\n\nIs more like \"we can't kill the soldiers, then try with their family\". Typical mafia coward methods.",
">\n\nKill them before they become soldiers",
">\n\nThats how you get more volunteers to become soldiers out of vengeance 💀",
">\n\nOf course. But they need to learn the same lessons we learned in the Middle East and every single war we ever fight. Apparently no one learns that lesson lol",
">\n\nBut remember this is not a war guyz…",
">\n\nIt’s a terrorist attack.",
">\n\nI am no war expert, but wouldn't it be more effective to drop those bombs on military targets instead? Surely bombing schools and random apartments won't do shit. Just makes the people in Ukraine more pissed off.",
">\n\nIt won't. The logic behind it(intimidating your opponent into giving up because the cost of continuing to fight is too high on civilians) sounds sound...but just isn't backed up by data. No bombing campaign on civilian centers or infrastructure ever made the nation give up(not even the nukes being dropped on japan directly caused it, it was just the final nail in the coffin due to Japanase already having lost militarily clearly and just couldn't agree internally on what kind of peace they want). Heck usually even it's impact on the nation's ability to produce military goods is relativly minor(some factories in germany got bombed literally dozens of times throughout the war but still continued producing, even if at reduced capacity).",
">\n\nYou say this like America doesn't immediately target this kind of infrastructure during its wars, too.\nThis is standard wartime assholery.",
">\n\nIf it was just the infrastructure, fine. But they are targeting civilian buildings on purpose. That's just terrorism.",
">\n\nRussia doesn't have the force saturation capable of destroying or suppressing Ukrainian infrastructure at least not across the whole country nor for very long. A decently sized missile attack about 1-2 times a month will damage and disrupt the situation temporarily but most shit is either fixed, replaced or supplemented by another part of the energy grid. Not to mention if Ukraine is to be believed between 50-85% of drones and missiles are destroyed with the percentage only going up. The worst it got was October/November when 40-50% of the Grid was damaged in some way. But Ukraine is getting more air defense and the number of destroyed missiles is only getting higher.\nNot to mention they can't directly blow up Ukrainian Nuclear power plants either which are also supplying a ton of electric power.\nIt'd would need something akin to the USAF and RAF 1944-1945 level of consistency and power to actually wear down Ukraine and even then it would take months to actually have an affect on the front.\nThe most this does is make Ukraine use up it's air defence systems and rockets which is why Gepard Anti air systems and western supplied air defense systems have been going into Ukraine basically negating the the losses Ukraine suffers in attrition. We need to send Ukraine more of these systems.",
">\n\nEnough to cover all of Ukraine please. Then ruzzia has nothing left... unless they want ww3 knowing they would be decimated by NATO",
">\n\nUkraine needs to send the same amount of naval drone boats to Novorussysk oil ports. \nFuck Pootin.",
">\n\nCongratulations Putin, you have only hardened Ukraine's resolve and pointed more guns at yourself.",
">\n\nDo we have a problem?",
">\n\nIf Russians know whats good for them, they should keep what they have got\nLong wars always favor the defenders",
">\n\nPutin can suck my shriveled dick.",
">\n\nAs a Russian I think he can suck a gun barrel, shriveled or not 🤷♂️"
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"They want a humanitarian crisis and weaken morale inside Ukrainian society.",
">\n\nIt’s literally never worked before. People get angry and then go back to work, production increases sometimes. Even in Japan after the nukes and Tokyo fire bombings, the population never cracked.",
">\n\nIt only works if there's already dissent for whomever is in power before the war and the attackers can be viewed as a sort of liberator.\nI don't think Russia honestly thinks the people of Western Ukraine would ever willingly concede to them. Even at the start of the invasion a lot of rumblings were about letting Lviv remain as the sole \"independent\" Ukraine with everything east of the mountains becoming occupied. This is just taking out the frustrations of Russia's ineffectiveness on the people of Ukraine.",
">\n\nRussia is wasting their dumbass missiles. 90% are getting shot down. Soon all chips from RU dishwashers will be exhausted.",
">\n\nI thought the news said they were already out of missiles and had to use shitty Iranian suicide drones. Is somebody else selling missiles to them?",
">\n\nRunning out means they are approaching what experts predict would be a safe reserve. Between shaving the margins on their reserves, and what production they can continue on their missiles they can make more. Not as fast as they are using them of course. At some point the rate of attacks will slow down as it takes longer to get a salvo ready.",
">\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\nThey just launched one of their biggest volleys and again the experts say: anytime now they're going to run out.\nYou're also saying the same thing.\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true. Or the missiles get shot down, or they hit their targets. Shot down missiles can not hit their targets but apparently, that's what's happening in Ukraine if we choose to believe these reports.\nIt's all not making sense. It's all propaganda from both sides. \nLet's just say: we don't know. Shit's fucked.",
">\n\n\nThey've been running out, according to the experts, since march.\n\nNot according to experts no. Unless you mean Reddit armchair generals.\nNo experts thought Russia was running out of missiles in March. \nLikewise with this:\n\nSame with the 80-90% shot down. Whole cities are on fire, electricity is down. Those two things can not be both true.\n\nThere aren't whole cities on fire but yes electricity is down. But how many missiles do you think it takes to knock out electricity? It isn't that many. Ukraine isn't a rich country, they don't have above average redundancy in their grid. \nLook at Texas - they had a major grid outage a year and a half ago that took hundreds of lives and causes hundreds of billions of dollars in property and economic damage. For winter storms they knew were coming - not one single missile or drone blew up a substation or transmission line.",
">\n\nPeople already forgetting that power went down in the US last month from a bunch of rednecks shooting at transformers. Seems plausible that missiles could do the job.",
">\n\nWe lost power for 24 hours this week due to 50 mph winds knocking down tens of thousands of trees across our city.",
">\n\nNow Ukraine will fire 1 missile into Russian and the Kremlin will cry foul and say that it's not fair.",
">\n\nAnd they'll hit a military target.",
">\n\nAnd 8 boats will spontaneously sink.",
">\n\nAnd 8 more Russian Oligarchs will accidentally fall out of windows.",
">\n\nAnd 9 tank turrets will take off",
">\n\n5 GOLDEN RINGS!!!! Oh wait",
">\n\nOmg THAT was golden.",
">\n\nImagine the uproar from the Kremlin if Ukraine started striking Moscow....",
">\n\nThey’d claim it was an unprovoked attack, take it as a declaration of war, and send nukes instead of just missiles",
">\n\n\"we had to, otherwise we would 'look weak'\"",
">\n\nAmazing that Russia turned out to be “Toxic Masculinity: The Country”",
">\n\nYou miss where they made domestic abuse legal in 2017?",
">\n\nAs we can see another sucessful hit on a strategic road crossing to the tactical bakery",
">\n\nThat bakery was an army barracks training hundreds of gingerbread men",
">\n\nThey were producing muffins of mass destruction!",
">\n\nRussia is such a piece of shit.",
">\n\nLet’s remember this next time a video of Russians hugging as they die in the trenches surfaces. \nUkraine doesn’t want them there. They want to just live their lives, and yet they are continually terrorized and hundreds of thousands of them have been massacre’d, just for existing. \nFuck Russia.",
">\n\nDon't forget all the kidnapped children, Russia is literally stealing kids like some horrible fairytale.",
">\n\nRussia was having a population crisis before 2022, it's rapidly been accelerated. These children are all part of the re-population plan.",
">\n\nIf genocide is part of your repopulation plan, you don’t deserve a population",
">\n\nAgreed.",
">\n\nEvery time Ukraine at the verge of making a military break through in the front line, Russia will launch everything randomly towards Ukraine. Just like the tantrum of a spoiled child.",
">\n\nEventually the impact wears off. It’s at its peak now due to being winter, once it changes momentum swings back in Ukraines favour.",
">\n\nEspecially once the ground freezes enough in the south for Ukraine to start major counter offensives.",
">\n\nI know they’ve got big eyes for Melitopol and eastern Kherson at the moment could be a massacre for the Russians pushed back into Crimea (with an assault there not too far behind) \nThere’s also talk that they’re close to taking Kremiina even without the ground freezing.",
">\n\nI don't see an assault on Crimea in the realm of possibility, who is talking about such an outcome? Liberation of Donbas seems more plausible and pre 2022 borders, but I don't see Ukraine pushing through the narrow Perekop Isthmus to say less of an amphibious assault...",
">\n\nAn assault isn't necessary if they had longer range missiles and could take out a certain bridge and some other critical supply infrastructure. They can just keep applying pressure to the supply lines until the Russians starve or run out of ammo and then just squeeze them out.",
">\n\nI think its high time that the US let's them have the longer range missiles for the HIMARS, wbu?",
">\n\nGive them that and you can knock that bridge into Crimea out.",
">\n\nThis pattern is getting depressingly familiar. Ukraine about to make a significant gain on the front line. \nQuick send in the missiles to show how “powerful” we are. \nThe irony is that Russia is just making Ukraine’s plea for additional support harder to ignore.",
">\n\nIs more like \"we can't kill the soldiers, then try with their family\". Typical mafia coward methods.",
">\n\nKill them before they become soldiers",
">\n\nThats how you get more volunteers to become soldiers out of vengeance 💀",
">\n\nOf course. But they need to learn the same lessons we learned in the Middle East and every single war we ever fight. Apparently no one learns that lesson lol",
">\n\nBut remember this is not a war guyz…",
">\n\nIt’s a terrorist attack.",
">\n\nI am no war expert, but wouldn't it be more effective to drop those bombs on military targets instead? Surely bombing schools and random apartments won't do shit. Just makes the people in Ukraine more pissed off.",
">\n\nIt won't. The logic behind it(intimidating your opponent into giving up because the cost of continuing to fight is too high on civilians) sounds sound...but just isn't backed up by data. No bombing campaign on civilian centers or infrastructure ever made the nation give up(not even the nukes being dropped on japan directly caused it, it was just the final nail in the coffin due to Japanase already having lost militarily clearly and just couldn't agree internally on what kind of peace they want). Heck usually even it's impact on the nation's ability to produce military goods is relativly minor(some factories in germany got bombed literally dozens of times throughout the war but still continued producing, even if at reduced capacity).",
">\n\nYou say this like America doesn't immediately target this kind of infrastructure during its wars, too.\nThis is standard wartime assholery.",
">\n\nIf it was just the infrastructure, fine. But they are targeting civilian buildings on purpose. That's just terrorism.",
">\n\nRussia doesn't have the force saturation capable of destroying or suppressing Ukrainian infrastructure at least not across the whole country nor for very long. A decently sized missile attack about 1-2 times a month will damage and disrupt the situation temporarily but most shit is either fixed, replaced or supplemented by another part of the energy grid. Not to mention if Ukraine is to be believed between 50-85% of drones and missiles are destroyed with the percentage only going up. The worst it got was October/November when 40-50% of the Grid was damaged in some way. But Ukraine is getting more air defense and the number of destroyed missiles is only getting higher.\nNot to mention they can't directly blow up Ukrainian Nuclear power plants either which are also supplying a ton of electric power.\nIt'd would need something akin to the USAF and RAF 1944-1945 level of consistency and power to actually wear down Ukraine and even then it would take months to actually have an affect on the front.\nThe most this does is make Ukraine use up it's air defence systems and rockets which is why Gepard Anti air systems and western supplied air defense systems have been going into Ukraine basically negating the the losses Ukraine suffers in attrition. We need to send Ukraine more of these systems.",
">\n\nEnough to cover all of Ukraine please. Then ruzzia has nothing left... unless they want ww3 knowing they would be decimated by NATO",
">\n\nUkraine needs to send the same amount of naval drone boats to Novorussysk oil ports. \nFuck Pootin.",
">\n\nCongratulations Putin, you have only hardened Ukraine's resolve and pointed more guns at yourself.",
">\n\nDo we have a problem?",
">\n\nIf Russians know whats good for them, they should keep what they have got\nLong wars always favor the defenders",
">\n\nPutin can suck my shriveled dick.",
">\n\nAs a Russian I think he can suck a gun barrel, shriveled or not 🤷♂️",
">\n\nHe should be strapped to the same missiles that are being lauched at Ukraine, except aimed and lauched at his vanity bridge (Kerch bridge that is). Two birds, one missile"
] |
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