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MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7wu2xm
| 1,574,046,436 | 1,574,038,088 | 71 | 3 |
Published as an undergrad in a non-undergrad publication? That's pretty nuts congrats!
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Congratulations!
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dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7wynby
| 1,574,046,436 | 1,574,041,596 | 71 | 3 |
Published as an undergrad in a non-undergrad publication? That's pretty nuts congrats!
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That's huge! Especially as an undergrad! gg, my friend
| 1 | 4,840 | 23.666667 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
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MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7x50kr
| 1,574,042,944 | 1,574,046,436 | 3 | 71 |
This is such a great feeling! Congratulations to you.
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Published as an undergrad in a non-undergrad publication? That's pretty nuts congrats!
| 0 | 3,492 | 23.666667 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7wxra9
| 1,574,034,891 | 1,574,040,921 | 16 | 22 |
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dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
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MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7wxra9
| 1,574,035,514 | 1,574,040,921 | 8 | 22 |
Gratz!!!
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Congratulations! This will be a huge help for you moving forward in your life no matter what path you choose to take.
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dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
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MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7wu2xm
| 1,574,040,921 | 1,574,038,088 | 22 | 3 |
Congratulations! This will be a huge help for you moving forward in your life no matter what path you choose to take.
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Congratulations!
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dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7xly5g
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f7yo5gp
| 1,574,063,324 | 1,574,098,187 | 4 | 5 |
Congrats. Which field? do share the paper link with us when published
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Now everyone cite it!
| 0 | 34,863 | 1.25 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7wu2xm
| 1,574,098,187 | 1,574,038,088 | 5 | 3 |
Now everyone cite it!
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Congratulations!
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dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
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MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7yo5gp
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f7wynby
| 1,574,098,187 | 1,574,041,596 | 5 | 3 |
Now everyone cite it!
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That's huge! Especially as an undergrad! gg, my friend
| 1 | 56,591 | 1.666667 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7yo5gp
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f7x0ezh
| 1,574,098,187 | 1,574,042,944 | 5 | 3 |
Now everyone cite it!
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This is such a great feeling! Congratulations to you.
| 1 | 55,243 | 1.666667 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7xhr31
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f7yo5gp
| 1,574,058,072 | 1,574,098,187 | 3 | 5 |
Congratulations!!! I’m also an undergrad student and I’ve been trying to get something published too... this is hard work, keep going!
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Now everyone cite it!
| 0 | 40,115 | 1.666667 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7yo5gp
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f7x54pn
| 1,574,098,187 | 1,574,046,526 | 5 | 2 |
Now everyone cite it!
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Congrats!
| 1 | 51,661 | 2.5 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7x55re
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f7yo5gp
| 1,574,046,548 | 1,574,098,187 | 2 | 5 |
Congratulations
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Now everyone cite it!
| 0 | 51,639 | 2.5 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7x64q5
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f7yo5gp
| 1,574,047,321 | 1,574,098,187 | 2 | 5 |
Congrats!!
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Now everyone cite it!
| 0 | 50,866 | 2.5 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7xe2hr
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f7yo5gp
| 1,574,054,148 | 1,574,098,187 | 1 | 5 |
Congrats! That's amazing!
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Now everyone cite it!
| 0 | 44,039 | 5 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7xfk2i
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f7yo5gp
| 1,574,055,663 | 1,574,098,187 | 1 | 5 |
Wow! Congratulations! That's a huge accomplishment.
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Now everyone cite it!
| 0 | 42,524 | 5 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7yo5gp
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f7y749i
| 1,574,098,187 | 1,574,088,266 | 5 | 1 |
Now everyone cite it!
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congrats!
| 1 | 9,921 | 5 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7yo5gp
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f7yckru
| 1,574,098,187 | 1,574,092,112 | 5 | 1 |
Now everyone cite it!
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What a legend you are! 🔥 Congrats!
| 1 | 6,075 | 5 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7xly5g
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f7wu2xm
| 1,574,063,324 | 1,574,038,088 | 4 | 3 |
Congrats. Which field? do share the paper link with us when published
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Congratulations!
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dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7xly5g
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f7wynby
| 1,574,063,324 | 1,574,041,596 | 4 | 3 |
Congrats. Which field? do share the paper link with us when published
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That's huge! Especially as an undergrad! gg, my friend
| 1 | 21,728 | 1.333333 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7x0ezh
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f7xly5g
| 1,574,042,944 | 1,574,063,324 | 3 | 4 |
This is such a great feeling! Congratulations to you.
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Congrats. Which field? do share the paper link with us when published
| 0 | 20,380 | 1.333333 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7xhr31
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f7xly5g
| 1,574,058,072 | 1,574,063,324 | 3 | 4 |
Congratulations!!! I’m also an undergrad student and I’ve been trying to get something published too... this is hard work, keep going!
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Congrats. Which field? do share the paper link with us when published
| 0 | 5,252 | 1.333333 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7xly5g
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f7x54pn
| 1,574,063,324 | 1,574,046,526 | 4 | 2 |
Congrats. Which field? do share the paper link with us when published
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Congrats!
| 1 | 16,798 | 2 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7x55re
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f7xly5g
| 1,574,046,548 | 1,574,063,324 | 2 | 4 |
Congratulations
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Congrats. Which field? do share the paper link with us when published
| 0 | 16,776 | 2 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7x64q5
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f7xly5g
| 1,574,047,321 | 1,574,063,324 | 2 | 4 |
Congrats!!
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Congrats. Which field? do share the paper link with us when published
| 0 | 16,003 | 2 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7xly5g
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f7xe2hr
| 1,574,063,324 | 1,574,054,148 | 4 | 1 |
Congrats. Which field? do share the paper link with us when published
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Congrats! That's amazing!
| 1 | 9,176 | 4 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7xly5g
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f7xfk2i
| 1,574,063,324 | 1,574,055,663 | 4 | 1 |
Congrats. Which field? do share the paper link with us when published
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Wow! Congratulations! That's a huge accomplishment.
| 1 | 7,661 | 4 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7x54pn
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f7xhr31
| 1,574,046,526 | 1,574,058,072 | 2 | 3 |
Congrats!
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Congratulations!!! I’m also an undergrad student and I’ve been trying to get something published too... this is hard work, keep going!
| 0 | 11,546 | 1.5 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7xhr31
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f7x55re
| 1,574,058,072 | 1,574,046,548 | 3 | 2 |
Congratulations!!! I’m also an undergrad student and I’ve been trying to get something published too... this is hard work, keep going!
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Congratulations
| 1 | 11,524 | 1.5 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7x64q5
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f7xhr31
| 1,574,047,321 | 1,574,058,072 | 2 | 3 |
Congrats!!
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Congratulations!!! I’m also an undergrad student and I’ve been trying to get something published too... this is hard work, keep going!
| 0 | 10,751 | 1.5 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7xhr31
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f7xe2hr
| 1,574,058,072 | 1,574,054,148 | 3 | 1 |
Congratulations!!! I’m also an undergrad student and I’ve been trying to get something published too... this is hard work, keep going!
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Congrats! That's amazing!
| 1 | 3,924 | 3 | ||
dxuvrq
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askacademia_train
| 0.94 |
MY FIRST PAPER WAS ACCEPTED!! The good news keep on coming! My sole-author paper was accepted. I will be published as an undergrad!
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f7xfk2i
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f7xhr31
| 1,574,055,663 | 1,574,058,072 | 1 | 3 |
Wow! Congratulations! That's a huge accomplishment.
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Congratulations!!! I’m also an undergrad student and I’ve been trying to get something published too... this is hard work, keep going!
| 0 | 2,409 | 3 | ||
m6z9m4
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askacademia_train
| 0.99 |
Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8djvb
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gr8dadm
| 1,615,986,030 | 1,615,985,875 | 273 | 91 |
YES!! It’s now at the point in my field that if you don’t have a science or nature paper AND a prestigious post doc, you’re basically SOL for any faculty positions. I have worked on meta analyses and publication bias favouring positive outcomes is completely skewing our ability to synthesis and understand actual patterns in ecological data. Which in turn is limiting our ability to apply this information accurately to evidence based policy. The business side of academia is ruining the actual utility of science.
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I've added failed experiments/negative data into papers. You unfortunately generally need some positive/interesting result as the basis for the paper, but if things failed along the way and are relevant to the main topic of the paper, you can briefly mention the negative results and add it as a supplemental figure. I believe there are journals exclusively for negative results now, too, but I'm not sure how widely indexed they are.
| 1 | 155 | 3 | ||
m6z9m4
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askacademia_train
| 0.99 |
Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8c2rf
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gr8djvb
| 1,615,985,134 | 1,615,986,030 | 22 | 273 |
Agree 100% on publishing failed experiments!
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YES!! It’s now at the point in my field that if you don’t have a science or nature paper AND a prestigious post doc, you’re basically SOL for any faculty positions. I have worked on meta analyses and publication bias favouring positive outcomes is completely skewing our ability to synthesis and understand actual patterns in ecological data. Which in turn is limiting our ability to apply this information accurately to evidence based policy. The business side of academia is ruining the actual utility of science.
| 0 | 896 | 12.409091 | ||
m6z9m4
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askacademia_train
| 0.99 |
Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8gbq0
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gr8dadm
| 1,615,987,604 | 1,615,985,875 | 97 | 91 |
It’s one of the things ruining academia. It stems from administrators wanting a way to quantify and rank researchers’ productivity. This may not even be possible, but assuming it is “number of papers” is a terrible metric. It doesn’t measure what administrators think it does and it creates perverse incentives that actually harm research output. Citations per paper is a metric I pulled out of my butt just now but it’s still a much better metric than paper count. What I don’t understand is why the publish-or-perish model still exists when everybody should know it’s not working. Who’s keeping it going? Why? Is Big Paper behind it? Is there some law?
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I've added failed experiments/negative data into papers. You unfortunately generally need some positive/interesting result as the basis for the paper, but if things failed along the way and are relevant to the main topic of the paper, you can briefly mention the negative results and add it as a supplemental figure. I believe there are journals exclusively for negative results now, too, but I'm not sure how widely indexed they are.
| 1 | 1,729 | 1.065934 | ||
m6z9m4
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askacademia_train
| 0.99 |
Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8gbq0
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gr8fzpv
| 1,615,987,604 | 1,615,987,422 | 97 | 31 |
It’s one of the things ruining academia. It stems from administrators wanting a way to quantify and rank researchers’ productivity. This may not even be possible, but assuming it is “number of papers” is a terrible metric. It doesn’t measure what administrators think it does and it creates perverse incentives that actually harm research output. Citations per paper is a metric I pulled out of my butt just now but it’s still a much better metric than paper count. What I don’t understand is why the publish-or-perish model still exists when everybody should know it’s not working. Who’s keeping it going? Why? Is Big Paper behind it? Is there some law?
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Agreed! It’s partly why I left academia: the “game” of publishing/grants. And I was good at the game! So many papers add epsilon to delta...very little meat. And the redundancy is ridiculous. Soooo many papers that don’t properly cite & document what has come before, despite it being easier than ever to check (Google). I am much happier in industry, after 20 years in academia.
| 1 | 182 | 3.129032 | ||
m6z9m4
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askacademia_train
| 0.99 |
Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8gbq0
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gr8c2rf
| 1,615,987,604 | 1,615,985,134 | 97 | 22 |
It’s one of the things ruining academia. It stems from administrators wanting a way to quantify and rank researchers’ productivity. This may not even be possible, but assuming it is “number of papers” is a terrible metric. It doesn’t measure what administrators think it does and it creates perverse incentives that actually harm research output. Citations per paper is a metric I pulled out of my butt just now but it’s still a much better metric than paper count. What I don’t understand is why the publish-or-perish model still exists when everybody should know it’s not working. Who’s keeping it going? Why? Is Big Paper behind it? Is there some law?
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Agree 100% on publishing failed experiments!
| 1 | 2,470 | 4.409091 | ||
m6z9m4
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askacademia_train
| 0.99 |
Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8dadm
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gr8c2rf
| 1,615,985,875 | 1,615,985,134 | 91 | 22 |
I've added failed experiments/negative data into papers. You unfortunately generally need some positive/interesting result as the basis for the paper, but if things failed along the way and are relevant to the main topic of the paper, you can briefly mention the negative results and add it as a supplemental figure. I believe there are journals exclusively for negative results now, too, but I'm not sure how widely indexed they are.
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Agree 100% on publishing failed experiments!
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m6z9m4
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askacademia_train
| 0.99 |
Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8fzpv
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gr8kagv
| 1,615,987,422 | 1,615,989,691 | 31 | 87 |
Agreed! It’s partly why I left academia: the “game” of publishing/grants. And I was good at the game! So many papers add epsilon to delta...very little meat. And the redundancy is ridiculous. Soooo many papers that don’t properly cite & document what has come before, despite it being easier than ever to check (Google). I am much happier in industry, after 20 years in academia.
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There's this guy in my field who published like 8 papers based on his PhD project alone by slicing and dicing the project into small portions then blowing each of them up into full papers. The intros of some of these papers read almost the same with some modifications to make them just different enough. Till this day I wonder how they got published. But he's now a professor at a top university so I guess it worked out well for him.
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m6z9m4
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askacademia_train
| 0.99 |
Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8iviq
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gr8kagv
| 1,615,988,964 | 1,615,989,691 | 30 | 87 |
I'd honestly love it if there was an "International Journal of Zany Shit we tried that didn't work but oh well here's some data." But that of course means there has to be some degree of standards for what constitutes a good failed experiment.
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There's this guy in my field who published like 8 papers based on his PhD project alone by slicing and dicing the project into small portions then blowing each of them up into full papers. The intros of some of these papers read almost the same with some modifications to make them just different enough. Till this day I wonder how they got published. But he's now a professor at a top university so I guess it worked out well for him.
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8c2rf
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There's this guy in my field who published like 8 papers based on his PhD project alone by slicing and dicing the project into small portions then blowing each of them up into full papers. The intros of some of these papers read almost the same with some modifications to make them just different enough. Till this day I wonder how they got published. But he's now a professor at a top university so I guess it worked out well for him.
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Agree 100% on publishing failed experiments!
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8iw46
| 1,615,989,691 | 1,615,988,972 | 87 | 6 |
There's this guy in my field who published like 8 papers based on his PhD project alone by slicing and dicing the project into small portions then blowing each of them up into full papers. The intros of some of these papers read almost the same with some modifications to make them just different enough. Till this day I wonder how they got published. But he's now a professor at a top university so I guess it worked out well for him.
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There are very few TT positions, and many of these have research as a moderate to major component of their appointment. Why *wouldn’t* you expect those pressures to drive up output? What would selection for a TT job look like research productivity was removed? Impact? Novelty of research program? That is very much like what midcareer and senior searches look like. How would you do that at the junior stage, without just simply replicating prestige networks?
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8fzpv
| 1,615,985,134 | 1,615,987,422 | 22 | 31 |
Agree 100% on publishing failed experiments!
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Agreed! It’s partly why I left academia: the “game” of publishing/grants. And I was good at the game! So many papers add epsilon to delta...very little meat. And the redundancy is ridiculous. Soooo many papers that don’t properly cite & document what has come before, despite it being easier than ever to check (Google). I am much happier in industry, after 20 years in academia.
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8c2rf
| 1,615,988,964 | 1,615,985,134 | 30 | 22 |
I'd honestly love it if there was an "International Journal of Zany Shit we tried that didn't work but oh well here's some data." But that of course means there has to be some degree of standards for what constitutes a good failed experiment.
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Agree 100% on publishing failed experiments!
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8nn8w
| 1,615,995,583 | 1,615,991,367 | 14 | 10 |
A perspective from the humanities: I'm in what's called a "book field," rather than an "article field." Tenure expectation is, basically, one single-authored book. These take years to research and write, so it's pretty much a one-shot deal. Thing is, only a handful of publishers publish scholarship in a given field. The most prestigious (and therefore secure for tenure purposes) publishers are university presses, and we all know the financial condition of universities these days. They're getting hit on the demand side as well, because fewer and fewer libraries are buying books (and these are the kind of books that mostly only libraries buy). So the presses might not even look at your proposal, let alone send it out for review. Universities have effectively outsourced P&T to presses that are on life support themselves.
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Publishing a negative result requires some work, but it's definitely doable and I recommend it. Towards the beginning of my career I published two papers that are mostly "*if you think this is a good idea, don't; here's why*" and "*why XYZ looks like it should work, but doesn't*". Neither exceeded a dozen citations or so, but at least I contributed towards fighting the bias. I deplore papers that are only slightly different spins on the same thing and I pity people who publish them (because otherwise they would perish). Like "*Novel method applied to material 1*". "*Novel method applied to material 2, which is very much like material 1*". Ugh.
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8o0jf
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gr8wm5s
| 1,615,991,550 | 1,615,995,583 | 9 | 14 |
h-index is by no means perfect but it's far more relevant than paper count, i.e. how many times has your work contributed to the literature.
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A perspective from the humanities: I'm in what's called a "book field," rather than an "article field." Tenure expectation is, basically, one single-authored book. These take years to research and write, so it's pretty much a one-shot deal. Thing is, only a handful of publishers publish scholarship in a given field. The most prestigious (and therefore secure for tenure purposes) publishers are university presses, and we all know the financial condition of universities these days. They're getting hit on the demand side as well, because fewer and fewer libraries are buying books (and these are the kind of books that mostly only libraries buy). So the presses might not even look at your proposal, let alone send it out for review. Universities have effectively outsourced P&T to presses that are on life support themselves.
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8wm5s
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gr8varw
| 1,615,995,583 | 1,615,994,995 | 14 | 7 |
A perspective from the humanities: I'm in what's called a "book field," rather than an "article field." Tenure expectation is, basically, one single-authored book. These take years to research and write, so it's pretty much a one-shot deal. Thing is, only a handful of publishers publish scholarship in a given field. The most prestigious (and therefore secure for tenure purposes) publishers are university presses, and we all know the financial condition of universities these days. They're getting hit on the demand side as well, because fewer and fewer libraries are buying books (and these are the kind of books that mostly only libraries buy). So the presses might not even look at your proposal, let alone send it out for review. Universities have effectively outsourced P&T to presses that are on life support themselves.
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Let me give a slightly different take on this. I completely agree with the notion that there are too many papers and definitely way too many “incremental” papers. But it is worth thinking g about the causes of this. In my mind the main driver of all of this is that the job market is ultra-competitive. Most fields produce an order of magnitude (or more!) PhDs than they have TT openings. As such there is a massive culling at the postdoctoral level and then at the Assistant Professor level. Now of course some fields are not training PhDs to necessarily go into academia but many are and in those cases this pressure applies. For example in my department we regularly get 500+ applications for every TT opening. This is very typical for my field and many others. So you need some criteria to separate people and at that scale it will obviously not be a subtle or thoughtful process. Counting pubs is obviously not an optimal algorithm but if we didn’t do that, we would need some other metric. Letters? We get 500x3 letters, how to separate those? Etc. And that’s not to mention grants and in particular final grant reports. If you are writing the final report for a $400,000 grant, you better have something listed there. Pubs is usually the thing Another issue is something that has occurred more recently, but it’s that now many places that aren’t really research schools at all now require a solid publication record for tenure. In my opinion this is unwise but faculty doing research is good for a small school’s prestige. Obviously this trend is an outgrowth of the factors mentioned above.
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8iw46
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gr8wm5s
| 1,615,988,972 | 1,615,995,583 | 6 | 14 |
There are very few TT positions, and many of these have research as a moderate to major component of their appointment. Why *wouldn’t* you expect those pressures to drive up output? What would selection for a TT job look like research productivity was removed? Impact? Novelty of research program? That is very much like what midcareer and senior searches look like. How would you do that at the junior stage, without just simply replicating prestige networks?
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A perspective from the humanities: I'm in what's called a "book field," rather than an "article field." Tenure expectation is, basically, one single-authored book. These take years to research and write, so it's pretty much a one-shot deal. Thing is, only a handful of publishers publish scholarship in a given field. The most prestigious (and therefore secure for tenure purposes) publishers are university presses, and we all know the financial condition of universities these days. They're getting hit on the demand side as well, because fewer and fewer libraries are buying books (and these are the kind of books that mostly only libraries buy). So the presses might not even look at your proposal, let alone send it out for review. Universities have effectively outsourced P&T to presses that are on life support themselves.
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8wm5s
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gr8p0ne
| 1,615,995,583 | 1,615,992,043 | 14 | 6 |
A perspective from the humanities: I'm in what's called a "book field," rather than an "article field." Tenure expectation is, basically, one single-authored book. These take years to research and write, so it's pretty much a one-shot deal. Thing is, only a handful of publishers publish scholarship in a given field. The most prestigious (and therefore secure for tenure purposes) publishers are university presses, and we all know the financial condition of universities these days. They're getting hit on the demand side as well, because fewer and fewer libraries are buying books (and these are the kind of books that mostly only libraries buy). So the presses might not even look at your proposal, let alone send it out for review. Universities have effectively outsourced P&T to presses that are on life support themselves.
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I'm a physisist, and I feel all of this as a scam... Academia became into a legal piramidal bussines: you need a degre in order to be able to teach to those who pretend to get a degree so they can teach others who pretend... All of us are guilty for accepting this unsenseless academia rules.
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8nn8w
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gr99jha
| 1,615,991,367 | 1,616,001,312 | 10 | 13 |
Publishing a negative result requires some work, but it's definitely doable and I recommend it. Towards the beginning of my career I published two papers that are mostly "*if you think this is a good idea, don't; here's why*" and "*why XYZ looks like it should work, but doesn't*". Neither exceeded a dozen citations or so, but at least I contributed towards fighting the bias. I deplore papers that are only slightly different spins on the same thing and I pity people who publish them (because otherwise they would perish). Like "*Novel method applied to material 1*". "*Novel method applied to material 2, which is very much like material 1*". Ugh.
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I know some PhD students more experienced than any other postdoc since they still do a PhD in their 8th or 9th years at the same lab and this is in Europe, where you don't have classes, exams, seminars etc. It's full time research. They aim to publish every chapter of their dissertation in famous and high impact journals, it clogs the lab for upcoming students and we invest too much money and time on limited number of projects. The sad part is to see that all about the journal names. Nobody cares about the continuity, robust data or reproducibility, they keep looking for fancy experiments to fit fancy journals. Our lab discussions don't involve around the scientific ideas, they involve around journal names (e.g. this would be a Nature paper etc.) I mean after all our PI is "ambitious" enough to keep pushing us by telling "I want that each one to have a Nature paper" and yes, this is a toxic lab environment. I think this is why many people want to quit academia. PS: This also creates a huge inequality in terms of fellowships etc. Many of us don't have luxury to do a 8 year PhD project and wait for a publication for that long.
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr99jha
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gr8o0jf
| 1,616,001,312 | 1,615,991,550 | 13 | 9 |
I know some PhD students more experienced than any other postdoc since they still do a PhD in their 8th or 9th years at the same lab and this is in Europe, where you don't have classes, exams, seminars etc. It's full time research. They aim to publish every chapter of their dissertation in famous and high impact journals, it clogs the lab for upcoming students and we invest too much money and time on limited number of projects. The sad part is to see that all about the journal names. Nobody cares about the continuity, robust data or reproducibility, they keep looking for fancy experiments to fit fancy journals. Our lab discussions don't involve around the scientific ideas, they involve around journal names (e.g. this would be a Nature paper etc.) I mean after all our PI is "ambitious" enough to keep pushing us by telling "I want that each one to have a Nature paper" and yes, this is a toxic lab environment. I think this is why many people want to quit academia. PS: This also creates a huge inequality in terms of fellowships etc. Many of us don't have luxury to do a 8 year PhD project and wait for a publication for that long.
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h-index is by no means perfect but it's far more relevant than paper count, i.e. how many times has your work contributed to the literature.
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8varw
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gr99jha
| 1,615,994,995 | 1,616,001,312 | 7 | 13 |
Let me give a slightly different take on this. I completely agree with the notion that there are too many papers and definitely way too many “incremental” papers. But it is worth thinking g about the causes of this. In my mind the main driver of all of this is that the job market is ultra-competitive. Most fields produce an order of magnitude (or more!) PhDs than they have TT openings. As such there is a massive culling at the postdoctoral level and then at the Assistant Professor level. Now of course some fields are not training PhDs to necessarily go into academia but many are and in those cases this pressure applies. For example in my department we regularly get 500+ applications for every TT opening. This is very typical for my field and many others. So you need some criteria to separate people and at that scale it will obviously not be a subtle or thoughtful process. Counting pubs is obviously not an optimal algorithm but if we didn’t do that, we would need some other metric. Letters? We get 500x3 letters, how to separate those? Etc. And that’s not to mention grants and in particular final grant reports. If you are writing the final report for a $400,000 grant, you better have something listed there. Pubs is usually the thing Another issue is something that has occurred more recently, but it’s that now many places that aren’t really research schools at all now require a solid publication record for tenure. In my opinion this is unwise but faculty doing research is good for a small school’s prestige. Obviously this trend is an outgrowth of the factors mentioned above.
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I know some PhD students more experienced than any other postdoc since they still do a PhD in their 8th or 9th years at the same lab and this is in Europe, where you don't have classes, exams, seminars etc. It's full time research. They aim to publish every chapter of their dissertation in famous and high impact journals, it clogs the lab for upcoming students and we invest too much money and time on limited number of projects. The sad part is to see that all about the journal names. Nobody cares about the continuity, robust data or reproducibility, they keep looking for fancy experiments to fit fancy journals. Our lab discussions don't involve around the scientific ideas, they involve around journal names (e.g. this would be a Nature paper etc.) I mean after all our PI is "ambitious" enough to keep pushing us by telling "I want that each one to have a Nature paper" and yes, this is a toxic lab environment. I think this is why many people want to quit academia. PS: This also creates a huge inequality in terms of fellowships etc. Many of us don't have luxury to do a 8 year PhD project and wait for a publication for that long.
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8iw46
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gr99jha
| 1,615,988,972 | 1,616,001,312 | 6 | 13 |
There are very few TT positions, and many of these have research as a moderate to major component of their appointment. Why *wouldn’t* you expect those pressures to drive up output? What would selection for a TT job look like research productivity was removed? Impact? Novelty of research program? That is very much like what midcareer and senior searches look like. How would you do that at the junior stage, without just simply replicating prestige networks?
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I know some PhD students more experienced than any other postdoc since they still do a PhD in their 8th or 9th years at the same lab and this is in Europe, where you don't have classes, exams, seminars etc. It's full time research. They aim to publish every chapter of their dissertation in famous and high impact journals, it clogs the lab for upcoming students and we invest too much money and time on limited number of projects. The sad part is to see that all about the journal names. Nobody cares about the continuity, robust data or reproducibility, they keep looking for fancy experiments to fit fancy journals. Our lab discussions don't involve around the scientific ideas, they involve around journal names (e.g. this would be a Nature paper etc.) I mean after all our PI is "ambitious" enough to keep pushing us by telling "I want that each one to have a Nature paper" and yes, this is a toxic lab environment. I think this is why many people want to quit academia. PS: This also creates a huge inequality in terms of fellowships etc. Many of us don't have luxury to do a 8 year PhD project and wait for a publication for that long.
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr99jha
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gr8p0ne
| 1,616,001,312 | 1,615,992,043 | 13 | 6 |
I know some PhD students more experienced than any other postdoc since they still do a PhD in their 8th or 9th years at the same lab and this is in Europe, where you don't have classes, exams, seminars etc. It's full time research. They aim to publish every chapter of their dissertation in famous and high impact journals, it clogs the lab for upcoming students and we invest too much money and time on limited number of projects. The sad part is to see that all about the journal names. Nobody cares about the continuity, robust data or reproducibility, they keep looking for fancy experiments to fit fancy journals. Our lab discussions don't involve around the scientific ideas, they involve around journal names (e.g. this would be a Nature paper etc.) I mean after all our PI is "ambitious" enough to keep pushing us by telling "I want that each one to have a Nature paper" and yes, this is a toxic lab environment. I think this is why many people want to quit academia. PS: This also creates a huge inequality in terms of fellowships etc. Many of us don't have luxury to do a 8 year PhD project and wait for a publication for that long.
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I'm a physisist, and I feel all of this as a scam... Academia became into a legal piramidal bussines: you need a degre in order to be able to teach to those who pretend to get a degree so they can teach others who pretend... All of us are guilty for accepting this unsenseless academia rules.
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8nn8w
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gr8iw46
| 1,615,991,367 | 1,615,988,972 | 10 | 6 |
Publishing a negative result requires some work, but it's definitely doable and I recommend it. Towards the beginning of my career I published two papers that are mostly "*if you think this is a good idea, don't; here's why*" and "*why XYZ looks like it should work, but doesn't*". Neither exceeded a dozen citations or so, but at least I contributed towards fighting the bias. I deplore papers that are only slightly different spins on the same thing and I pity people who publish them (because otherwise they would perish). Like "*Novel method applied to material 1*". "*Novel method applied to material 2, which is very much like material 1*". Ugh.
|
There are very few TT positions, and many of these have research as a moderate to major component of their appointment. Why *wouldn’t* you expect those pressures to drive up output? What would selection for a TT job look like research productivity was removed? Impact? Novelty of research program? That is very much like what midcareer and senior searches look like. How would you do that at the junior stage, without just simply replicating prestige networks?
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8o0jf
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gr9u4py
| 1,615,991,550 | 1,616,010,420 | 9 | 10 |
h-index is by no means perfect but it's far more relevant than paper count, i.e. how many times has your work contributed to the literature.
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Academic system is all fucked up. I regret sincerely that I chose this career. I hate it and it keeps getting worse. People said that all the effort of having a Phd would be fruitful with patience and perseverance. It hasn't been fruitful. I know it's a global crisis that is part of a huge generational and structural crisis, but knowing that doesn't make it better.
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr9h880
| 1,616,010,420 | 1,616,004,684 | 10 | 9 |
Academic system is all fucked up. I regret sincerely that I chose this career. I hate it and it keeps getting worse. People said that all the effort of having a Phd would be fruitful with patience and perseverance. It hasn't been fruitful. I know it's a global crisis that is part of a huge generational and structural crisis, but knowing that doesn't make it better.
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Yes indeed. This is what I think various metaresearch studies, starting with John Ioannidis' much-cited work, have been documenting that has especially affected science and social science--that the pressure to publish and the growth of various metrics for measuring not just quantity but impact factors, combined with a standard that says negative results are non-publishable, has become an incentive system that is pushing scientific knowledge towards false or misleading claims. Not because people are deliberately falsifying data but instead they are conducting studies in ways that are increasingly and perhaps often unconsciously designed to churn out publishable outcomes in a reliable way even if those outcomes turn out to be marginally significant or largely an artifact of the research design and thus not reproducible or applicable in a broader way. We are doing this to ourselves. Academics still in theory have control over the evaluation of their peers and still in many research institutions control many aspects of faculty practice. We could seriously de-escalate the standards we use to hire, tenure, promote and reward researchers and stop this race to the bottom. We could do that at the same time as taking back control over scholarly publication from predatory for-profit publishers who contribute to the overproduction of scholarship, because it's the voluntary labor of faculty that adds the important value of such scholarship (both in peer review and in doing the research in the first place). We need scholarship that has the room to breath. We need researchers to publish negative results. We need scholars to have time and space to think, to noodle around idly with ideas that aren't easily turned into an experimental design. That is how the knowledge that has mattered in the past has come into being. Many of the most important findings and arguments and ideas that we still use and value today came from long-term, slow-accumulating research of a kind that would never be fundable or publishable today, and would never survive the scrutiny of neoliberal styles of institutional management.
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8varw
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gr9u4py
| 1,615,994,995 | 1,616,010,420 | 7 | 10 |
Let me give a slightly different take on this. I completely agree with the notion that there are too many papers and definitely way too many “incremental” papers. But it is worth thinking g about the causes of this. In my mind the main driver of all of this is that the job market is ultra-competitive. Most fields produce an order of magnitude (or more!) PhDs than they have TT openings. As such there is a massive culling at the postdoctoral level and then at the Assistant Professor level. Now of course some fields are not training PhDs to necessarily go into academia but many are and in those cases this pressure applies. For example in my department we regularly get 500+ applications for every TT opening. This is very typical for my field and many others. So you need some criteria to separate people and at that scale it will obviously not be a subtle or thoughtful process. Counting pubs is obviously not an optimal algorithm but if we didn’t do that, we would need some other metric. Letters? We get 500x3 letters, how to separate those? Etc. And that’s not to mention grants and in particular final grant reports. If you are writing the final report for a $400,000 grant, you better have something listed there. Pubs is usually the thing Another issue is something that has occurred more recently, but it’s that now many places that aren’t really research schools at all now require a solid publication record for tenure. In my opinion this is unwise but faculty doing research is good for a small school’s prestige. Obviously this trend is an outgrowth of the factors mentioned above.
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Academic system is all fucked up. I regret sincerely that I chose this career. I hate it and it keeps getting worse. People said that all the effort of having a Phd would be fruitful with patience and perseverance. It hasn't been fruitful. I know it's a global crisis that is part of a huge generational and structural crisis, but knowing that doesn't make it better.
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askacademia_train
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8iw46
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gr9u4py
| 1,615,988,972 | 1,616,010,420 | 6 | 10 |
There are very few TT positions, and many of these have research as a moderate to major component of their appointment. Why *wouldn’t* you expect those pressures to drive up output? What would selection for a TT job look like research productivity was removed? Impact? Novelty of research program? That is very much like what midcareer and senior searches look like. How would you do that at the junior stage, without just simply replicating prestige networks?
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Academic system is all fucked up. I regret sincerely that I chose this career. I hate it and it keeps getting worse. People said that all the effort of having a Phd would be fruitful with patience and perseverance. It hasn't been fruitful. I know it's a global crisis that is part of a huge generational and structural crisis, but knowing that doesn't make it better.
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m6z9m4
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askacademia_train
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8p0ne
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gr9u4py
| 1,615,992,043 | 1,616,010,420 | 6 | 10 |
I'm a physisist, and I feel all of this as a scam... Academia became into a legal piramidal bussines: you need a degre in order to be able to teach to those who pretend to get a degree so they can teach others who pretend... All of us are guilty for accepting this unsenseless academia rules.
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Academic system is all fucked up. I regret sincerely that I chose this career. I hate it and it keeps getting worse. People said that all the effort of having a Phd would be fruitful with patience and perseverance. It hasn't been fruitful. I know it's a global crisis that is part of a huge generational and structural crisis, but knowing that doesn't make it better.
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m6z9m4
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askacademia_train
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8iw46
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gr8o0jf
| 1,615,988,972 | 1,615,991,550 | 6 | 9 |
There are very few TT positions, and many of these have research as a moderate to major component of their appointment. Why *wouldn’t* you expect those pressures to drive up output? What would selection for a TT job look like research productivity was removed? Impact? Novelty of research program? That is very much like what midcareer and senior searches look like. How would you do that at the junior stage, without just simply replicating prestige networks?
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h-index is by no means perfect but it's far more relevant than paper count, i.e. how many times has your work contributed to the literature.
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr9h880
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gr8varw
| 1,616,004,684 | 1,615,994,995 | 9 | 7 |
Yes indeed. This is what I think various metaresearch studies, starting with John Ioannidis' much-cited work, have been documenting that has especially affected science and social science--that the pressure to publish and the growth of various metrics for measuring not just quantity but impact factors, combined with a standard that says negative results are non-publishable, has become an incentive system that is pushing scientific knowledge towards false or misleading claims. Not because people are deliberately falsifying data but instead they are conducting studies in ways that are increasingly and perhaps often unconsciously designed to churn out publishable outcomes in a reliable way even if those outcomes turn out to be marginally significant or largely an artifact of the research design and thus not reproducible or applicable in a broader way. We are doing this to ourselves. Academics still in theory have control over the evaluation of their peers and still in many research institutions control many aspects of faculty practice. We could seriously de-escalate the standards we use to hire, tenure, promote and reward researchers and stop this race to the bottom. We could do that at the same time as taking back control over scholarly publication from predatory for-profit publishers who contribute to the overproduction of scholarship, because it's the voluntary labor of faculty that adds the important value of such scholarship (both in peer review and in doing the research in the first place). We need scholarship that has the room to breath. We need researchers to publish negative results. We need scholars to have time and space to think, to noodle around idly with ideas that aren't easily turned into an experimental design. That is how the knowledge that has mattered in the past has come into being. Many of the most important findings and arguments and ideas that we still use and value today came from long-term, slow-accumulating research of a kind that would never be fundable or publishable today, and would never survive the scrutiny of neoliberal styles of institutional management.
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Let me give a slightly different take on this. I completely agree with the notion that there are too many papers and definitely way too many “incremental” papers. But it is worth thinking g about the causes of this. In my mind the main driver of all of this is that the job market is ultra-competitive. Most fields produce an order of magnitude (or more!) PhDs than they have TT openings. As such there is a massive culling at the postdoctoral level and then at the Assistant Professor level. Now of course some fields are not training PhDs to necessarily go into academia but many are and in those cases this pressure applies. For example in my department we regularly get 500+ applications for every TT opening. This is very typical for my field and many others. So you need some criteria to separate people and at that scale it will obviously not be a subtle or thoughtful process. Counting pubs is obviously not an optimal algorithm but if we didn’t do that, we would need some other metric. Letters? We get 500x3 letters, how to separate those? Etc. And that’s not to mention grants and in particular final grant reports. If you are writing the final report for a $400,000 grant, you better have something listed there. Pubs is usually the thing Another issue is something that has occurred more recently, but it’s that now many places that aren’t really research schools at all now require a solid publication record for tenure. In my opinion this is unwise but faculty doing research is good for a small school’s prestige. Obviously this trend is an outgrowth of the factors mentioned above.
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr9h880
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gr8iw46
| 1,616,004,684 | 1,615,988,972 | 9 | 6 |
Yes indeed. This is what I think various metaresearch studies, starting with John Ioannidis' much-cited work, have been documenting that has especially affected science and social science--that the pressure to publish and the growth of various metrics for measuring not just quantity but impact factors, combined with a standard that says negative results are non-publishable, has become an incentive system that is pushing scientific knowledge towards false or misleading claims. Not because people are deliberately falsifying data but instead they are conducting studies in ways that are increasingly and perhaps often unconsciously designed to churn out publishable outcomes in a reliable way even if those outcomes turn out to be marginally significant or largely an artifact of the research design and thus not reproducible or applicable in a broader way. We are doing this to ourselves. Academics still in theory have control over the evaluation of their peers and still in many research institutions control many aspects of faculty practice. We could seriously de-escalate the standards we use to hire, tenure, promote and reward researchers and stop this race to the bottom. We could do that at the same time as taking back control over scholarly publication from predatory for-profit publishers who contribute to the overproduction of scholarship, because it's the voluntary labor of faculty that adds the important value of such scholarship (both in peer review and in doing the research in the first place). We need scholarship that has the room to breath. We need researchers to publish negative results. We need scholars to have time and space to think, to noodle around idly with ideas that aren't easily turned into an experimental design. That is how the knowledge that has mattered in the past has come into being. Many of the most important findings and arguments and ideas that we still use and value today came from long-term, slow-accumulating research of a kind that would never be fundable or publishable today, and would never survive the scrutiny of neoliberal styles of institutional management.
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There are very few TT positions, and many of these have research as a moderate to major component of their appointment. Why *wouldn’t* you expect those pressures to drive up output? What would selection for a TT job look like research productivity was removed? Impact? Novelty of research program? That is very much like what midcareer and senior searches look like. How would you do that at the junior stage, without just simply replicating prestige networks?
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8p0ne
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gr9h880
| 1,615,992,043 | 1,616,004,684 | 6 | 9 |
I'm a physisist, and I feel all of this as a scam... Academia became into a legal piramidal bussines: you need a degre in order to be able to teach to those who pretend to get a degree so they can teach others who pretend... All of us are guilty for accepting this unsenseless academia rules.
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Yes indeed. This is what I think various metaresearch studies, starting with John Ioannidis' much-cited work, have been documenting that has especially affected science and social science--that the pressure to publish and the growth of various metrics for measuring not just quantity but impact factors, combined with a standard that says negative results are non-publishable, has become an incentive system that is pushing scientific knowledge towards false or misleading claims. Not because people are deliberately falsifying data but instead they are conducting studies in ways that are increasingly and perhaps often unconsciously designed to churn out publishable outcomes in a reliable way even if those outcomes turn out to be marginally significant or largely an artifact of the research design and thus not reproducible or applicable in a broader way. We are doing this to ourselves. Academics still in theory have control over the evaluation of their peers and still in many research institutions control many aspects of faculty practice. We could seriously de-escalate the standards we use to hire, tenure, promote and reward researchers and stop this race to the bottom. We could do that at the same time as taking back control over scholarly publication from predatory for-profit publishers who contribute to the overproduction of scholarship, because it's the voluntary labor of faculty that adds the important value of such scholarship (both in peer review and in doing the research in the first place). We need scholarship that has the room to breath. We need researchers to publish negative results. We need scholars to have time and space to think, to noodle around idly with ideas that aren't easily turned into an experimental design. That is how the knowledge that has mattered in the past has come into being. Many of the most important findings and arguments and ideas that we still use and value today came from long-term, slow-accumulating research of a kind that would never be fundable or publishable today, and would never survive the scrutiny of neoliberal styles of institutional management.
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8iw46
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gr8varw
| 1,615,988,972 | 1,615,994,995 | 6 | 7 |
There are very few TT positions, and many of these have research as a moderate to major component of their appointment. Why *wouldn’t* you expect those pressures to drive up output? What would selection for a TT job look like research productivity was removed? Impact? Novelty of research program? That is very much like what midcareer and senior searches look like. How would you do that at the junior stage, without just simply replicating prestige networks?
|
Let me give a slightly different take on this. I completely agree with the notion that there are too many papers and definitely way too many “incremental” papers. But it is worth thinking g about the causes of this. In my mind the main driver of all of this is that the job market is ultra-competitive. Most fields produce an order of magnitude (or more!) PhDs than they have TT openings. As such there is a massive culling at the postdoctoral level and then at the Assistant Professor level. Now of course some fields are not training PhDs to necessarily go into academia but many are and in those cases this pressure applies. For example in my department we regularly get 500+ applications for every TT opening. This is very typical for my field and many others. So you need some criteria to separate people and at that scale it will obviously not be a subtle or thoughtful process. Counting pubs is obviously not an optimal algorithm but if we didn’t do that, we would need some other metric. Letters? We get 500x3 letters, how to separate those? Etc. And that’s not to mention grants and in particular final grant reports. If you are writing the final report for a $400,000 grant, you better have something listed there. Pubs is usually the thing Another issue is something that has occurred more recently, but it’s that now many places that aren’t really research schools at all now require a solid publication record for tenure. In my opinion this is unwise but faculty doing research is good for a small school’s prestige. Obviously this trend is an outgrowth of the factors mentioned above.
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askacademia_train
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8varw
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gr8p0ne
| 1,615,994,995 | 1,615,992,043 | 7 | 6 |
Let me give a slightly different take on this. I completely agree with the notion that there are too many papers and definitely way too many “incremental” papers. But it is worth thinking g about the causes of this. In my mind the main driver of all of this is that the job market is ultra-competitive. Most fields produce an order of magnitude (or more!) PhDs than they have TT openings. As such there is a massive culling at the postdoctoral level and then at the Assistant Professor level. Now of course some fields are not training PhDs to necessarily go into academia but many are and in those cases this pressure applies. For example in my department we regularly get 500+ applications for every TT opening. This is very typical for my field and many others. So you need some criteria to separate people and at that scale it will obviously not be a subtle or thoughtful process. Counting pubs is obviously not an optimal algorithm but if we didn’t do that, we would need some other metric. Letters? We get 500x3 letters, how to separate those? Etc. And that’s not to mention grants and in particular final grant reports. If you are writing the final report for a $400,000 grant, you better have something listed there. Pubs is usually the thing Another issue is something that has occurred more recently, but it’s that now many places that aren’t really research schools at all now require a solid publication record for tenure. In my opinion this is unwise but faculty doing research is good for a small school’s prestige. Obviously this trend is an outgrowth of the factors mentioned above.
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I'm a physisist, and I feel all of this as a scam... Academia became into a legal piramidal bussines: you need a degre in order to be able to teach to those who pretend to get a degree so they can teach others who pretend... All of us are guilty for accepting this unsenseless academia rules.
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askacademia_train
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8iw46
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gr9usz3
| 1,615,988,972 | 1,616,010,723 | 6 | 7 |
There are very few TT positions, and many of these have research as a moderate to major component of their appointment. Why *wouldn’t* you expect those pressures to drive up output? What would selection for a TT job look like research productivity was removed? Impact? Novelty of research program? That is very much like what midcareer and senior searches look like. How would you do that at the junior stage, without just simply replicating prestige networks?
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Just one more data point here. I am non-tenure-track full-time with a 4/4 teaching load. To maintain my qualifications to teach under our college's accreditation requirements, I have to have the same minimum output of papers and conference presentations as a tenured professor teaching a 3/3 or less. Getting tenure, of course, requires more, but since that isn't my track, it's not relevant to me. Further, it's entirely numbers-based. I could--in theory--publish one world-changing article in a top journal in 5 years or 5 mediocre papers in an barely-non-predatory journal, and as far as the accreditation body is concerned, the 5 papers make me more qualified to teach.
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Does anybody feel like academic publication pressure is becoming unsustainable? I am becoming very frustrated with the publication culture in my field. Becoming an expert takes a long time and so is making a valuable contribution to the literature. However, publication pressure is turning many contributions into spin-offs that are slightly different from the publication before, and they are often redundant. Further, a failed experiment would never get published but it would actually provide insight to peers as to what route not to explore. I think that publication pressure is overwhelming for academics and in detriment of scientific literature. I feel like we seriously need to rethink the publication reward system. Does anybody have thoughts on this?
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gr8p0ne
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gr9usz3
| 1,615,992,043 | 1,616,010,723 | 6 | 7 |
I'm a physisist, and I feel all of this as a scam... Academia became into a legal piramidal bussines: you need a degre in order to be able to teach to those who pretend to get a degree so they can teach others who pretend... All of us are guilty for accepting this unsenseless academia rules.
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Just one more data point here. I am non-tenure-track full-time with a 4/4 teaching load. To maintain my qualifications to teach under our college's accreditation requirements, I have to have the same minimum output of papers and conference presentations as a tenured professor teaching a 3/3 or less. Getting tenure, of course, requires more, but since that isn't my track, it's not relevant to me. Further, it's entirely numbers-based. I could--in theory--publish one world-changing article in a top journal in 5 years or 5 mediocre papers in an barely-non-predatory journal, and as far as the accreditation body is concerned, the 5 papers make me more qualified to teach.
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Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
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>As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their \[paid\] hours will be reduced to a minimum. LOL. Sincerely, A staff member whose mandatory \[unpaid\] furlough days will result in $3,000 less this year
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Thankfully we're only getting everything above hard truths at my institution. But we've formed committees to look at all the options
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askacademia_train
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Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
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fqontgo
|
fqp1539
| 1,589,519,798 | 1,589,531,319 | 33 | 42 |
Ours are taking a 10% paycut and one extremely noble individual is going up to 20%.
|
Don’t forget to forget mentioning athletics! No need to cut them!
| 0 | 11,521 | 1.272727 | ||
gk10as
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askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
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fqowe30
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fqp1539
| 1,589,526,904 | 1,589,531,319 | 12 | 42 |
I was surprised to get a newsletter announcing some pay increases for staff https://www.ukrant.nl/a-bonus-and-a-3-percent-pay-increase/?lang=en
|
Don’t forget to forget mentioning athletics! No need to cut them!
| 0 | 4,415 | 3.5 | ||
gk10as
|
askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
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fqohpsx
|
fqp1539
| 1,589,515,492 | 1,589,531,319 | 10 | 42 |
Thankfully we're only getting everything above hard truths at my institution. But we've formed committees to look at all the options
|
Don’t forget to forget mentioning athletics! No need to cut them!
| 0 | 15,827 | 4.2 | ||
gk10as
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askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
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fqp1539
|
fqomm3t
| 1,589,531,319 | 1,589,518,882 | 42 | 8 |
Don’t forget to forget mentioning athletics! No need to cut them!
|
uncanny
| 1 | 12,437 | 5.25 | ||
gk10as
|
askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
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fqohpsx
|
fqontgo
| 1,589,515,492 | 1,589,519,798 | 10 | 33 |
Thankfully we're only getting everything above hard truths at my institution. But we've formed committees to look at all the options
|
Ours are taking a 10% paycut and one extremely noble individual is going up to 20%.
| 0 | 4,306 | 3.3 | ||
gk10as
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askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
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fqontgo
|
fqomm3t
| 1,589,519,798 | 1,589,518,882 | 33 | 8 |
Ours are taking a 10% paycut and one extremely noble individual is going up to 20%.
|
uncanny
| 1 | 916 | 4.125 | ||
gk10as
|
askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
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fqp703e
|
fqowe30
| 1,589,537,279 | 1,589,526,904 | 14 | 12 |
I'm happy to be a French civil servant working in a university, so I'm safe. I feel bad for all the PhD students that are waiting on more info about whether their PhD funding will be extended and by how much.
|
I was surprised to get a newsletter announcing some pay increases for staff https://www.ukrant.nl/a-bonus-and-a-3-percent-pay-increase/?lang=en
| 1 | 10,375 | 1.166667 | ||
gk10as
|
askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
|
fqohpsx
|
fqp703e
| 1,589,515,492 | 1,589,537,279 | 10 | 14 |
Thankfully we're only getting everything above hard truths at my institution. But we've formed committees to look at all the options
|
I'm happy to be a French civil servant working in a university, so I'm safe. I feel bad for all the PhD students that are waiting on more info about whether their PhD funding will be extended and by how much.
| 0 | 21,787 | 1.4 | ||
gk10as
|
askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
|
fqp703e
|
fqp6xy0
| 1,589,537,279 | 1,589,537,217 | 14 | 9 |
I'm happy to be a French civil servant working in a university, so I'm safe. I feel bad for all the PhD students that are waiting on more info about whether their PhD funding will be extended and by how much.
|
When you have wolves managing your lambs, you're gotta have a bad time.
| 1 | 62 | 1.555556 | ||
gk10as
|
askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
|
fqp703e
|
fqomm3t
| 1,589,537,279 | 1,589,518,882 | 14 | 8 |
I'm happy to be a French civil servant working in a university, so I'm safe. I feel bad for all the PhD students that are waiting on more info about whether their PhD funding will be extended and by how much.
|
uncanny
| 1 | 18,397 | 1.75 | ||
gk10as
|
askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
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fqpecw4
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fqowe30
| 1,589,544,139 | 1,589,526,904 | 13 | 12 |
My university gave a 10% paycut to staff/professors and then a "reduction in pay" (no specified amount) to senior administration. The lack of specificity was glaring to say the least.
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I was surprised to get a newsletter announcing some pay increases for staff https://www.ukrant.nl/a-bonus-and-a-3-percent-pay-increase/?lang=en
| 1 | 17,235 | 1.083333 | ||
gk10as
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askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
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fqohpsx
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fqowe30
| 1,589,515,492 | 1,589,526,904 | 10 | 12 |
Thankfully we're only getting everything above hard truths at my institution. But we've formed committees to look at all the options
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I was surprised to get a newsletter announcing some pay increases for staff https://www.ukrant.nl/a-bonus-and-a-3-percent-pay-increase/?lang=en
| 0 | 11,412 | 1.2 | ||
gk10as
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askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
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fqowe30
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fqomm3t
| 1,589,526,904 | 1,589,518,882 | 12 | 8 |
I was surprised to get a newsletter announcing some pay increases for staff https://www.ukrant.nl/a-bonus-and-a-3-percent-pay-increase/?lang=en
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uncanny
| 1 | 8,022 | 1.5 | ||
gk10as
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askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
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fqohpsx
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fqpecw4
| 1,589,515,492 | 1,589,544,139 | 10 | 13 |
Thankfully we're only getting everything above hard truths at my institution. But we've formed committees to look at all the options
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My university gave a 10% paycut to staff/professors and then a "reduction in pay" (no specified amount) to senior administration. The lack of specificity was glaring to say the least.
| 0 | 28,647 | 1.3 | ||
gk10as
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askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
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fqpecw4
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fqp6xy0
| 1,589,544,139 | 1,589,537,217 | 13 | 9 |
My university gave a 10% paycut to staff/professors and then a "reduction in pay" (no specified amount) to senior administration. The lack of specificity was glaring to say the least.
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When you have wolves managing your lambs, you're gotta have a bad time.
| 1 | 6,922 | 1.444444 | ||
gk10as
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askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
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fqomm3t
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fqpecw4
| 1,589,518,882 | 1,589,544,139 | 8 | 13 |
uncanny
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My university gave a 10% paycut to staff/professors and then a "reduction in pay" (no specified amount) to senior administration. The lack of specificity was glaring to say the least.
| 0 | 25,257 | 1.625 | ||
gk10as
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askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
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fqpecw4
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fqpafgl
| 1,589,544,139 | 1,589,540,661 | 13 | 5 |
My university gave a 10% paycut to staff/professors and then a "reduction in pay" (no specified amount) to senior administration. The lack of specificity was glaring to say the least.
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This was so spot on it was scary
| 1 | 3,478 | 2.6 | ||
gk10as
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askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
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fqp6xy0
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fqomm3t
| 1,589,537,217 | 1,589,518,882 | 9 | 8 |
When you have wolves managing your lambs, you're gotta have a bad time.
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uncanny
| 1 | 18,335 | 1.125 | ||
gk10as
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askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
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fqq0whz
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fqpkkvf
| 1,589,557,490 | 1,589,548,579 | 8 | 7 |
Serious question, why are US universities running out of money now? Did they have to pay back tuition? Is enrollment down for the next semester? From what I've heard, both seems to be... unlikely?
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Mods - I'd like to report a hack into my e-mail account.
| 1 | 8,911 | 1.142857 | ||
gk10as
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askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
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fqpafgl
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fqq0whz
| 1,589,540,661 | 1,589,557,490 | 5 | 8 |
This was so spot on it was scary
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Serious question, why are US universities running out of money now? Did they have to pay back tuition? Is enrollment down for the next semester? From what I've heard, both seems to be... unlikely?
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gk10as
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Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
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fqpkkvf
| 1,589,540,661 | 1,589,548,579 | 5 | 7 |
This was so spot on it was scary
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Mods - I'd like to report a hack into my e-mail account.
| 0 | 7,918 | 1.4 | ||
gk10as
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askacademia_train
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Have you been getting these emails from your ever-supportive senior administrators? Dear loyal workers of Flailing University, First off, let me start by making a distracting comment about how odd the situation feels and sharing what I think are some uncanny observations about “these times.” Next, I want to write something that sounds very empathic here. I want to put a lot of emphasis on saying how much I understand all your stresses now, ALL of them, every single one. I understand. Of course, I need to place some blanket praise here about how much we appreciate all that hard work and perseverance everyone has shown. Because this email is going to every single person employed at the school, these statements will feel as personal and uplifting as a sign stating: "Thank You for Not Smoking." Now, I will start to discuss the *hard truths*. I will discuss how enormous our budget shortfall is and how all the previous efforts, which I enumerate in detail, have not been enough to come even close to closing the gap. As a result, surely now you will see that we have no other option than to do the following: (1) Terminate all contract workers, non-tenure track faculty, and 65% of lower-level administrative staff. Fortunately, you will all qualify now for a special Coronavirus inspired extra unemployment bonus that, surely, will make this feel more like a glorious paid vacation if not winning the lottery. You can thank us later. (2) As for fortunate few staff allowed to remain (I bet you'd like to know if you're in this category, but let's keep the mystery), their [paid] hours will be reduced to a minimum. However, we all know their actually working hours will remain the same, maybe increase because now that they are working at home every waking hour is a potential working hour - and someone has to do the work of the 65% we’re letting go. (3) Thanks to all the tenure track faculty who are part of the Flailing University family. That’s why I know they will be more than glad to take on all the extra teaching needed (since we have purged all the teaching faculty, adjuncts, university-funded postdocs, researchers, assistants, and technicians) all while revising their curriculums to be entirely online, including lab sciences. A 25% pay cut will no doubt serve as a terrific incentive to work harder and maybe be able to get back to the barely living wage we were paying before. We all know it really doesn’t work like that, but you’ll try, won’t you! (4) All senior administration will be taking a 4.387% pay-cut. I want to close here but talking about how incredibly stressful, painful, even traumatizing it was for us - the senior administration - to make these decisions. We have screamed, we have cried, we rent our garments, we have gone up to as much as three times a week with our $300/hour shrinks. You see us being on a high perch here, but we're the ones suffering the most - always ready to take one on the chin for FU. I wish you all the best in this difficult time for everybody! We are all in this together! Sincerely, Senior Administrator
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fqqbnpz
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fqpafgl
| 1,589,562,741 | 1,589,540,661 | 7 | 5 |
Below are innumerable links to resources regarding best practices in pedagogy, technology, and social-emotional wellness. In the end, please understand that personal safety is not the college's responsibility, it is your own individual responsibility. To bond students more fully to the college, I am placing a set of funny stickers in your mailbox. Please apply these to your face shields before lecture. See you at work on Monday.
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This was so spot on it was scary
| 1 | 22,080 | 1.4 | ||
lo1vtp
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askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
So much effort about encouraging young people to do science, what about creating more jobs in academia? I am watching this increasing trend of scientists encouraging youngsters to become scientists for the last couple of years. However, whenever I visit the r/AskAcademia subreddit, I find some posts about the poor condition of the academic job market. Now, what's the point of telling young people to become scientists, when there's not much scope to really do so. Now, my question do academics reach out to the authorities to fund/ create more academic jobs or not? If yes, do you know about the details of this effort? If no, why don't academics do more to really promote science?
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go3m2ge
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go400hz
| 1,613,806,878 | 1,613,820,441 | 127 | 172 |
The academic job market is not the only market for scientists. We have challenges in the near and distant future: global climate change, human disease, energy, and too many more to list. If we're going to have a chance of solving any of these, we'll need scientists in academia, industry... and yes, policy and think tanks and government. I would hope for most science PhD programs aren't focused on one technique or one specific problem, but rather trains you on how to approach and tackle a problem given constraints and the resources you have available to you.
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I think you will find that a lot of industry is really resting on a academic foundation. The erosion of that academic foundation is a huge problem. Every paper and technique we used in the drug company and in many biotech companies were academic. Maybe you took those 100 papers and that federally funded training and those first pilots and paper and ran with it and started your own company, but you weren’t going to get that in the company. All the drug companies, including the ones that made the vaccines , are relying on years of federally funded basic and clinical research. So as more people flee the system and funding to basic science is eroded you will lose that also.
| 0 | 13,563 | 1.354331 | ||
lo1vtp
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askacademia_train
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So much effort about encouraging young people to do science, what about creating more jobs in academia? I am watching this increasing trend of scientists encouraging youngsters to become scientists for the last couple of years. However, whenever I visit the r/AskAcademia subreddit, I find some posts about the poor condition of the academic job market. Now, what's the point of telling young people to become scientists, when there's not much scope to really do so. Now, my question do academics reach out to the authorities to fund/ create more academic jobs or not? If yes, do you know about the details of this effort? If no, why don't academics do more to really promote science?
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go400hz
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go3op1f
| 1,613,820,441 | 1,613,809,266 | 172 | 33 |
I think you will find that a lot of industry is really resting on a academic foundation. The erosion of that academic foundation is a huge problem. Every paper and technique we used in the drug company and in many biotech companies were academic. Maybe you took those 100 papers and that federally funded training and those first pilots and paper and ran with it and started your own company, but you weren’t going to get that in the company. All the drug companies, including the ones that made the vaccines , are relying on years of federally funded basic and clinical research. So as more people flee the system and funding to basic science is eroded you will lose that also.
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>Now, my question do academics reach out to the authorities to fund/ create more academic jobs or not? If yes, do you know about the details of this effort? If no, why don't academics do more to really promote science? Yeah we complain about this all the time. The funding agencies (primarily NSF, NIH, but also DOE, DOD, etc) are basically the ones that determine it, and that's based on how much money they're given by the federal government... But the academic job market can't grow indefinitely and faculty turnover is greatly outpaced by the rate at which students graduate. If there is one graduate student per professor, they won't find jobs unless professors retire after six years. And they don't. But science wouldn't get done without graduate students, so we're stuck under the current model. Thankfully there are plenty of non-academic science jobs as u/drsomewhatevil points out and that's the saving grace for the academic job market.
| 1 | 11,175 | 5.212121 | ||
lo1vtp
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askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
So much effort about encouraging young people to do science, what about creating more jobs in academia? I am watching this increasing trend of scientists encouraging youngsters to become scientists for the last couple of years. However, whenever I visit the r/AskAcademia subreddit, I find some posts about the poor condition of the academic job market. Now, what's the point of telling young people to become scientists, when there's not much scope to really do so. Now, my question do academics reach out to the authorities to fund/ create more academic jobs or not? If yes, do you know about the details of this effort? If no, why don't academics do more to really promote science?
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go487xt
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go3m2ge
| 1,613,827,462 | 1,613,806,878 | 133 | 127 |
I don't think that pushing people to become scientists is the same as pushing people to become professors. That said, I do think the way that we promote science to our society is problematic. From a careers perspective, there's this myth that getting a STEM degree means that you're guaranteed a good job, when most S and M jobs are really competitive and actually don't pay very well, at least until you get a higher degree. This really fucks over, say, vanilla biology undergrads.
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The academic job market is not the only market for scientists. We have challenges in the near and distant future: global climate change, human disease, energy, and too many more to list. If we're going to have a chance of solving any of these, we'll need scientists in academia, industry... and yes, policy and think tanks and government. I would hope for most science PhD programs aren't focused on one technique or one specific problem, but rather trains you on how to approach and tackle a problem given constraints and the resources you have available to you.
| 1 | 20,584 | 1.047244 | ||
lo1vtp
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askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
So much effort about encouraging young people to do science, what about creating more jobs in academia? I am watching this increasing trend of scientists encouraging youngsters to become scientists for the last couple of years. However, whenever I visit the r/AskAcademia subreddit, I find some posts about the poor condition of the academic job market. Now, what's the point of telling young people to become scientists, when there's not much scope to really do so. Now, my question do academics reach out to the authorities to fund/ create more academic jobs or not? If yes, do you know about the details of this effort? If no, why don't academics do more to really promote science?
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go487xt
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go41sn3
| 1,613,827,462 | 1,613,822,168 | 133 | 41 |
I don't think that pushing people to become scientists is the same as pushing people to become professors. That said, I do think the way that we promote science to our society is problematic. From a careers perspective, there's this myth that getting a STEM degree means that you're guaranteed a good job, when most S and M jobs are really competitive and actually don't pay very well, at least until you get a higher degree. This really fucks over, say, vanilla biology undergrads.
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Can people please stop spreading the idea that academia is the only path for scientists? It's utterly ridiculous and also why education is one of the slowest when it comes to innovating as we're stucl in an almost century old method of cultivating scientists.
| 1 | 5,294 | 3.243902 | ||
lo1vtp
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askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
So much effort about encouraging young people to do science, what about creating more jobs in academia? I am watching this increasing trend of scientists encouraging youngsters to become scientists for the last couple of years. However, whenever I visit the r/AskAcademia subreddit, I find some posts about the poor condition of the academic job market. Now, what's the point of telling young people to become scientists, when there's not much scope to really do so. Now, my question do academics reach out to the authorities to fund/ create more academic jobs or not? If yes, do you know about the details of this effort? If no, why don't academics do more to really promote science?
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go487xt
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go3op1f
| 1,613,827,462 | 1,613,809,266 | 133 | 33 |
I don't think that pushing people to become scientists is the same as pushing people to become professors. That said, I do think the way that we promote science to our society is problematic. From a careers perspective, there's this myth that getting a STEM degree means that you're guaranteed a good job, when most S and M jobs are really competitive and actually don't pay very well, at least until you get a higher degree. This really fucks over, say, vanilla biology undergrads.
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>Now, my question do academics reach out to the authorities to fund/ create more academic jobs or not? If yes, do you know about the details of this effort? If no, why don't academics do more to really promote science? Yeah we complain about this all the time. The funding agencies (primarily NSF, NIH, but also DOE, DOD, etc) are basically the ones that determine it, and that's based on how much money they're given by the federal government... But the academic job market can't grow indefinitely and faculty turnover is greatly outpaced by the rate at which students graduate. If there is one graduate student per professor, they won't find jobs unless professors retire after six years. And they don't. But science wouldn't get done without graduate students, so we're stuck under the current model. Thankfully there are plenty of non-academic science jobs as u/drsomewhatevil points out and that's the saving grace for the academic job market.
| 1 | 18,196 | 4.030303 | ||
lo1vtp
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askacademia_train
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So much effort about encouraging young people to do science, what about creating more jobs in academia? I am watching this increasing trend of scientists encouraging youngsters to become scientists for the last couple of years. However, whenever I visit the r/AskAcademia subreddit, I find some posts about the poor condition of the academic job market. Now, what's the point of telling young people to become scientists, when there's not much scope to really do so. Now, my question do academics reach out to the authorities to fund/ create more academic jobs or not? If yes, do you know about the details of this effort? If no, why don't academics do more to really promote science?
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go41sn3
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go3op1f
| 1,613,822,168 | 1,613,809,266 | 41 | 33 |
Can people please stop spreading the idea that academia is the only path for scientists? It's utterly ridiculous and also why education is one of the slowest when it comes to innovating as we're stucl in an almost century old method of cultivating scientists.
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>Now, my question do academics reach out to the authorities to fund/ create more academic jobs or not? If yes, do you know about the details of this effort? If no, why don't academics do more to really promote science? Yeah we complain about this all the time. The funding agencies (primarily NSF, NIH, but also DOE, DOD, etc) are basically the ones that determine it, and that's based on how much money they're given by the federal government... But the academic job market can't grow indefinitely and faculty turnover is greatly outpaced by the rate at which students graduate. If there is one graduate student per professor, they won't find jobs unless professors retire after six years. And they don't. But science wouldn't get done without graduate students, so we're stuck under the current model. Thankfully there are plenty of non-academic science jobs as u/drsomewhatevil points out and that's the saving grace for the academic job market.
| 1 | 12,902 | 1.242424 | ||
lo1vtp
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askacademia_train
| 0.98 |
So much effort about encouraging young people to do science, what about creating more jobs in academia? I am watching this increasing trend of scientists encouraging youngsters to become scientists for the last couple of years. However, whenever I visit the r/AskAcademia subreddit, I find some posts about the poor condition of the academic job market. Now, what's the point of telling young people to become scientists, when there's not much scope to really do so. Now, my question do academics reach out to the authorities to fund/ create more academic jobs or not? If yes, do you know about the details of this effort? If no, why don't academics do more to really promote science?
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go493iv
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go3op1f
| 1,613,828,093 | 1,613,809,266 | 35 | 33 |
But there's been a culture shift in incoming PhD students as well. In my STEM area it used to be that almost everyone came in with the goal to be a professor. Now half of all incoming PhD students already come in with the intention of going into industry after their doctorate.
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>Now, my question do academics reach out to the authorities to fund/ create more academic jobs or not? If yes, do you know about the details of this effort? If no, why don't academics do more to really promote science? Yeah we complain about this all the time. The funding agencies (primarily NSF, NIH, but also DOE, DOD, etc) are basically the ones that determine it, and that's based on how much money they're given by the federal government... But the academic job market can't grow indefinitely and faculty turnover is greatly outpaced by the rate at which students graduate. If there is one graduate student per professor, they won't find jobs unless professors retire after six years. And they don't. But science wouldn't get done without graduate students, so we're stuck under the current model. Thankfully there are plenty of non-academic science jobs as u/drsomewhatevil points out and that's the saving grace for the academic job market.
| 1 | 18,827 | 1.060606 | ||
lo1vtp
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askacademia_train
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So much effort about encouraging young people to do science, what about creating more jobs in academia? I am watching this increasing trend of scientists encouraging youngsters to become scientists for the last couple of years. However, whenever I visit the r/AskAcademia subreddit, I find some posts about the poor condition of the academic job market. Now, what's the point of telling young people to become scientists, when there's not much scope to really do so. Now, my question do academics reach out to the authorities to fund/ create more academic jobs or not? If yes, do you know about the details of this effort? If no, why don't academics do more to really promote science?
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go4jtl7
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go4h433
| 1,613,834,635 | 1,613,833,108 | 11 | 8 |
All I can say is that I studied biology instead of English in college because of the « study stem! You’ll have a job! » push, and when I graduated it was nearly impossible to get a job as a biologist. People that have a BA in STEM and don’t want to be a computer scientist can get a job as a teacher pretty easily. But who wants to be a science teacher? In addition to trying to do all of the things most teachers have to do (that could easily be multiple people’s jobs), they have to set up labs, get materials, organize materials, clean up labs... All of this to say I wish I had studied English, so I had at least struggled to get a job in a field I loved most...
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https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2015/article/stem-crisis-or-stem-surplus-yes-and-yes.htm This is a great article that discusses whether US has a STEM deficit or a STEM surplus
| 1 | 1,527 | 1.375 | ||
lo1vtp
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askacademia_train
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So much effort about encouraging young people to do science, what about creating more jobs in academia? I am watching this increasing trend of scientists encouraging youngsters to become scientists for the last couple of years. However, whenever I visit the r/AskAcademia subreddit, I find some posts about the poor condition of the academic job market. Now, what's the point of telling young people to become scientists, when there's not much scope to really do so. Now, my question do academics reach out to the authorities to fund/ create more academic jobs or not? If yes, do you know about the details of this effort? If no, why don't academics do more to really promote science?
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go4cbtl
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go4jtl7
| 1,613,830,253 | 1,613,834,635 | 5 | 11 |
We have to be careful as this is a slippery slope. Industry R&D positions are also saturated similar to academia, and this is beginning to spill into other career paths. Soon even biotech sales or PM positions will also require PhD at the entry level. But agreed, academia should do more to retain and employ students. Postdocs can become staff scientists or something.
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All I can say is that I studied biology instead of English in college because of the « study stem! You’ll have a job! » push, and when I graduated it was nearly impossible to get a job as a biologist. People that have a BA in STEM and don’t want to be a computer scientist can get a job as a teacher pretty easily. But who wants to be a science teacher? In addition to trying to do all of the things most teachers have to do (that could easily be multiple people’s jobs), they have to set up labs, get materials, organize materials, clean up labs... All of this to say I wish I had studied English, so I had at least struggled to get a job in a field I loved most...
| 0 | 4,382 | 2.2 |
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