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re marlins win marlins win in article lloyd lloyd uclink berkeley edu lloyd nebres writes look at all that teal bleah indeed if the color teal on a team s uniforms is any indication of the future the marlins are in dire trouble refer to the san jose sharks for proof but i have hope for the marlins i was a sometime member of the rene lachemann fan club at the oakland coliseum and have a deep respect for the guy he s a gem and of course walt weiss gives that franchise class but yeah whoever designed those uniforms was guilty of a paucity of style and imagination ugghhh maybe i m just a child of the s but i really liked the marlins uniforms the helmets shine nicely in the sun it s enough to make me a fan ted frank however teel should have mentioned that though thf kimbark uchicago edu his advice is legally sound if you follow it the u of c law school you will probably wind up in jail standard disclaimers james donald in misc legal
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mark whiten i was on vacation all last week and didn t see any news at all could somebody fill me in on how st louis ended up with mark whiten in a trade who did we give up arocha allen watson dmitri young or did dal make a decent deal russ smith i don t know anything about x s but i know about some o george gervin on being an assistant coach
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re info needed for cleveland tickets in article apr leland stanford edu bohnert leland stanford edu matthew bohnert writes i m going to be in cleveland thursday april to sunday april does anybody know if the tribe will be in town on those dates and if so who re they playing and if tickets are available the tribe will be in town from april to the th there are always tickets available though they are playing toronto and many toronto fans make the trip to cleveland as it is easier to get tickets in cleveland than in toronto either way i seriously doubt they will sell out until the end of the season doug bank private systems division dougb ecs comm mot com motorola communications sector dougb nwu edu schaumburg illinois dougb casbah acns nwu edu
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re yogi isms here s one i remember sort of yogi s asleep in a hotel room late at night and gets a call from someone after he answers the phone the person at the other end asks if he woke yogi up yogi answered no the phone did kevin one of my favorites came back in the seventies when two streakers interupted a game yogi was at dashing across the field unclad later someone who wasn t present asked yogi if they were men or women he replied i couldn t tell they had bags over their heads
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re young catchers mss netcom com mark singer said in article blue cis pitt edu genetic pitt edu david m tate writes mss netcom com mark singer said we know that very very few players at this age make much of an impact in the bigs especially when they haven t even played aaa ball yes but this is irrelevant you re talking about averages when we have lots of information about this player in particular to base our decisions on do you really have that much information on him really i don t personally but clay just posted it yes we do unfortunately it shows that lopez wasn t as good an example as nieves would have been since his last year numbers were out of line with the previous years which i didn t have access to the point remains though knowing a guy s minor league history is as good as knowing his major league history if you know how to read it why isn t lopez likely to hit that well he hit that well last year after adjusting his stats for park and league and such he hit better on an absolute scale than olson or berryhill did by a lot i don t know you tell me what percentage of players reach or exceed their mle s in their rookie season we re talking about you know the mle is not a projection it s an equivalence it s a this is how well he hit last year in major league terms rating so in essence he has already reached it i would guess bob clay that essentially half of all players surpass their previous mles in their rookie seasons maybe more than half since all of these players are young and improving if that were your purpose maybe offerman spent getting acclimated if you will the dodgers as a team paid a big price that season did they offerman may have been the difference between th or th place and last place but no more perhaps they will reap the benefits down the road do you really think they would have done what they did if they were competing for a pennant sure they didn t have anyone better i suppose they might have gutted the farm system to acquire jay bell or spike owen or somebody if they were really in contention the point was not that ab is a significant sample but rather that he hadn t done anything in spring training to cause even a blockhead manager to question whether his minor league numbers were for real or to send him down until he gets warmed up for a stat head i m amazed that you put any credence in spring training if you d read what i wrote you d be less amazed nowhere do i claim to put any credence in spring training quite the contrary i said that lopez hadn t done anything that even the bozos who do put credence in spring training could interpret as failure just because i think spring training numbers are meaningless doesn t mean that bobby cox does it s just a case of ruling out one possible explanation for sending lopez down the kid will improve playing at aaa just like keith mitchell did wait a minute i missed something here keith mitchell did very very well at aa aaa and the majors over a season then did very very poorly for a year in aaa david m tate i do not know what it is about you that closes posing as and opens only something in me understands e e can the pocket of your glove is deeper than pete rose s dy cummings nobody not even tim raines has such soft hands
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sax any more news on steve s status since he lost the starting job would be appreciated thanks gwyn
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re young catchers most of this discussion has been between mark singer and david tate with valentine weighing in on the same side as dave at various times my opinion fwiw to all mark age doesn t matter ability does i would rather have the untried rookie with great minor league numbers than the veteran who has proven himself to be average at best i don t care if he is if he plays better than what i have i want him out there sandy alomar had decent minor league numbers grossly inflated by the pcl in general and las vegas in particular he should have been projected as an average major league hitter which is good for a catcher i ll admit santiago s numbers would probably come out the same as sandy s but i don t have the league data from the mid s to check it out that being said i agree with sending lopez to richmond at least to start the season as the box below shows he has one minor league season in which he hit well he has two in which he hit very very poorly i want to see that the lopez is real olson and berryhill are not complete mediocrities for catchers especially nl catchers they are essentially average hitters with equivalent averages around if he had hit well at prior levels i would say he belongs on the braves but there is a reasonable chance that lopez last year was just as much a fluke as alomar in or santiago in one year at any level at any age doesn t satisfy my standards of evidence javier lopez bur dur grn atl maj min tot maj min tot on a similar note i don t understand why more people are not supportive of neon deion granted i thought his behavior with mccarver last year was completely bush last year was the first time he ever got ab in one place so his lines are hard to read but he has a combined ops in minor league play with his speed is more valuable than the ops alone indicates and at a still young age had a monster year with an ops he has a total major and minor eqa of above major league average and above average for cf which was about in the nl last year he has shown at least the potential of going into the s which would make him one of the best hitters in the league he has two full seasons before reaching his prime season of he should be considered as a legitimate prospect and not as a simple side show attraction deion sanders fla int eas nyy int nyy int atl ric atl maj min tot maj min tot clay d
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re giants gm quinn is a genius in article apple apple com chuq apple com chuq von rospach wrote mcmath csb nlm nih gov chuck chuck bo buck mcmath writes when the giants protected mike benjamin career average ovre pitcher pat rapp there were surprised looks in the bay area benjamin s stats ab h doubles dingers and rapp s even been sent down to aaa so it s even better than that eh of course the protected list was done by the old regime not the new so this is rosen s baby not quinn s and i ll tell you what let s look at this again at the end of the season and say in three years and see who the genius is one of the more braindead decisions by the oldgiants imho even if benjamin does improve markedly over the past and his hitting is better he s never going to be more than a utility backup if rapp might turn into a top flight arm in another year i think the next time i post something like this i obviously need to make the sarcasm a bit more obvious chuck chuck mcmath mcmath csb nlm nih gov msd inc national library of medicine national institutes of health bethesda md no noose is good noose hey batter hey batter hey batter swing anon this opinion influenced by cosmic radiation
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re reds without sleeves was re new uniforms in article apr adobe com snichols adobe com sherri nichols writes in article news duke edu fierkelab bchm biochem duke edu eric roush writes am i the only person who thinks the reds sleeveless uniforms are ugly yet another reason why they won t win the nl west if uniforms really were a deciding factor in pennant races the pirates would have never won anything those have to be the ugliest uniforms i ve ever seen particular the all yellow set sherri nichols snichols adobe com my vote goes for the indians with their all red uniforms boog powell once said he felt like a big red blood clot rich barry barry ihlpe att com
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re yogi isms in article apr bsu ucs mbstultz leo bsuvc bsu edu writes here s an interesting quote from bill veek from get that nigger off the field josh gibson was at minimum two yogi berras speaking of yogi anybody know any good yogi isms mike curious george stultz here s one i remember sort of yogi s asleep in a hotel room late at night and gets a call from someone after he answers the phone the person at the other end asks if he woke yogi up yogi answered no the phone did kevin
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my predictions for since everyone else seems to be running wild with predictions i ve decided to add my own fuel to the fire they might seem a bit normal but there are a few albeit small surprises american league east w l gb new york yankees baltimore orioles toronto blue jays cleveland indians boston red sox milwaukee brewers detroit tigers american league west w l gb minnesota twins kansas city royals texas rangers chicago white sox oakland athletics seattle mariners california angels al mvp kirby puckett al cy young kevin appier al rookie of the year tim salmon al manager of the year buck showalter al comeback player of the year ozzie guillen national league east w l gb st louis cardinals philadelphia phillies montreal expos new york mets chicago cubs pittsburgh pirates florida marlins national league west w l gb atlanta braves cincinnati reds houston astros los angeles dodgers san francisco giants san diego padres colorado rockies nl mvp barry larkin nl cy young john smoltz nl rookie of the year wil cordero nl manager of the year joe torre nl comeback player of the year eric davis nl champions st louis cardinals al champions minnesota twins world champions st louis cardinals the st louis picks are what my heart says what my brain says is they will win the division lose to the braves in the nlcs and the braves will win the series against minnesota but for now i ll stick with the cards all the way kevin
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joe robbie stadium not for baseball did anyone notice the words not for baseball printed on the picture of joe robbie stadium in the opening day season preview section in usa today any reason given for this also i just noticed something looking at the nolan ryan timeline in the preview on rickey henderson became nolan s th strikeout on he pitched his th no hitter against oakland i believe the last out in the game was made by rickey henderson and on nolan pitched his th no hitter on the same day a certain someone stole his th base which overshadowed it it seems that nolan is having a lot of publicity at rickey s expense imo rickey deserves it and it seems as most of the net agrees with me from what i ve seen on it lately they are both great players but imo nolan has outclassed rickey both in playing and more importantly in attitude just my thoughts kevin
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re young catchers in article blue cis pitt edu genetic pitt edu david m tate writes as for rushing if there really is a qualitative difference between the minors and the majors that requires a period of adjustment and i don t believe there is then wouldn t you rather waste lopez s year old good season than his year old very good season or his year old excellent season the sooner you get him acclimated the more of his prime you get to use can anybody name a player who was rushed to the majors let s for argument s sake define rushed as brought up to the majors for more than a cup of coffee prior at age or younger and performing below expectations whose career was damaged by this rushing i m serious i tend to agree with david that bringing the player up sooner is better but i d like to look at players for whom this theory didn t work if there are any i d prefer players within the last years or so because then i can look up their minor league stats it s important to distinguish between players who legitimately had careers below what their minor league numbers would have projected as opposed to players who were hyped and failed but actually had careers not out of line with their minor league numbers let s kick it off with an example of a player who was rushed although there doesn t seem to have been any damage to his career jay bell was given pas in the major leagues at age and performed well below what you would expect from his aaa numbers the same season he got pas the next year at age and still underperformed however the next year at age his performance improved and he won the everyday shortstop job and has been there ever since it s really hard for me to see where he would have been better off staying in the minor league where he was performed quite well in aaa during this time rather than being rushed cleveland might have been better off i suppose because they might have been less likely to give up on him yes if you bring a player up early he s likely going to struggle but does that delay the time at which he stops struggling and starts performing up to expectations sherri nichols snichols adobe com
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re cubs game of april th in article apr oucsace cs ohiou edu jclark oucsace cs ohiou edu j michael clark writes otis nixion lined a single to left with two outs breaking up the no hitter cubs win on a hitter by jose guzman that s might be what it takes to beat the braves this year look at smoltz s pitching line hits walks er so and a loss
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players rushed to majors snichols adobe com sherri nichols writes can anybody name a player who was rushed to the majors let s for argument s sake define rushed as brought up to the majors for more than a cup of coffee prior at age or younger and performing below expectations whose career was damaged by this rushing i tend to agree that players are not hurt by early play in the big leagues the braves organization is a fertile ground to test this hypothesis as they had little talent on their roster for some time steve avery for example was rushed to the majors and he fared very poorly during his initial campaign his subsequent pitching has not been affected by his era during his rookie year bill james pointed out that it was relatively unusual to struggle so and then rebound bob horner was also rushed to the majors out of arizona state directly had good numbers immediately i am not certain of the ages of people like pete smith craig mcmurty and derek lilliquist the braves pitching staffs were so bad when they came up that they might have been rushed lilliquist and smith struggled but it didn t hurt ps and dl may have been overhyped i seem to recall cm pitching well initially though i don t have stats handy douglas bone internet bone luciano stanford edu standard disclaimers bitnet bone luciano stanford edu stanford apply uucp ucbvax luciano sierra stanford edu bone
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re rickey henderson in article ls d vinns appserv eng sun com str maredsous eng sun com todd rader writes stay in school you have a lot to learn learn what i know that million dollars is a lot of money i know rickey henderson doesn t have a career out of baseball i know if he didn t have baseball he wouldn t be making near the money he is now i just don t understand how some athlete who only plays a sport for a living for millions of dollars say he is not being paid enough if nobody will sign him for his asking price he will be the one hurting the a s will still win without him remeber many of these athletes have nothing if not for their athletic ability nothing they are getting paid much more than most hard working citizens and they are complaining of not enough pay i don t have a problem with them making millions my problem is when the say they aren t being paid enough when they already get million also their numbers get worse
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angels win the angels won their home opener against the brewers today before at anaheim stadium on a hitter by mark langston j t snow and gary discarcina hit home runs for the angels daniel
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re young catchers mss netcom com mark singer said most catchers need to be solid defensively players to help their clubs in the bigs those are the arguments against lopez for the braves for this year now the braves have two catchers who have demonstrated solid abilities to call games to work with the pitchers to throw out runners this is the crux of the argument to me at least both the sdcn and the non sdcn camps seem to agree on the fact that a catcher s defense is basically nonmeasurable at present you can talk about how important calling a game is or framing the pitches or blocking balls in the dirt but there is little or no way to tell exactly how various catcher s rank in defense looking at lopez specifically is there any reason to suspect that he is a bad defensive catcher other then the fact that the braves or the media has labeled him a bad defensive catcher as far as i can tell he doesn t have any particular problem in his mechanics such as sasser he might be a little rough around the edges in blocking the ball or framing the pitch to get a good call but all he needs to clear that up is playing and practice time i can t see how repetitions at aaa are any better then reps in the majors all we re left with is the calling the game aspect olsen and berryhill at always given credit for calling good games and helping the pitchering staff but this is a reputation that is given to almost all veteran catchers how is catching at aaa going to help lopez learn the major league pitching staff the only way any catcher is going to learn tom glavine s pitches is to catch tom glavine similarly i wouldn t be supprised if the pitcher s claimed to prefer pitching to olsen over pitching to lopez because they are used to pitching to olsen but given time they will say they are comfortable with lopez now since lopez can t learn how to handle the major league pitcher s while he s in aaa and since he doesn t have any glaring problem in his mechanics what is he going to learn in aaa that he can t learn just as well while in the majors dave dave bonar mebonar lsuvax sncc lsu edu
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re my picks with only one comment in article jfr ra msstate edu jfr ra msstate edu jackie f russell writes psg pitt edu paul s galvanek writes since i did so well last year here s another shot at picking the winners and losers i ll skip the commentary on why i picked who to finish where due to lack of time for flame wars kansas city i think kc has a much better shot at being in the top division than the bottom one word cone should help things tremendously i think you are way off the mark here another word offense makes them my pick for last too well there s also my policy of never picking a buck rodgers team for last florida chicago i dont know if an expansion team has ever finished not last but i think this year might be a first if it hasnt ever happened the cubs are worse the angels were game out of th the athletics and expansion senators finished tied for last the colt s finshed th ahead of the cubs the mets were last the royals finshed th ahead of the white sox the pilots in last the mariners finished th ahead of the athletics in last apparently being an expansion team with a poor a s or chicago team around is a good thing national league west cincinnati houston atlanta argh here is where you are obviously dead wrong not since the yankees of the s and s has a team been so nicely setup as this years and years to come braves i don t think that the all star team will be able to beat this may be an appropriate comparison the yankees finshed nd rd and nd finshing and games out of first in and they also finished second though they were only and games out even great teams can lose that s why they play the season on the other hand i m still picking the braves to go all the way john rickert rickert nextwork rose hulman predictions for marlins wins rockies wins and rockies fans will claim that the offense is adequate
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re jim lefebvre is an idiot in article apr bsu ucs bjgood leo bsuvc bsu edu writes i just wanted to let everyone know that i have lost what little respect i have for jim lefebvre after seeing today s cubs game a dishard cub fan if you think that s bad just wait until he tries dunston in the leadoff spot again yes i also wonder if they can win with this manager i never believed managers had that much to do with winning until i saw how much they had to do with losing rick
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re jim lefebvre is an idiot in article c uc bl news cso uiuc edu ada uxa cso uiuc edu driftwood writes i totally agree with each point you made jose viscaino looked like a single a hitter up there who swings on count with maddux pitching and your teams down by a run and you haven t touched the ball all day i also think too much is made of that lefty righty thing watching the cubs games i get the feeling steve stone knows a lot more about what the cubs should be doing than lefebre does harry said it best when he stated after another terrible vizcaino at bat we can t wait til sandberg returns i tell you steve stone is like a prophet he must be making a ton in the boradcoast booth because i can t understand why he s not actually back in the game itself the other day he called sosa s homerun against the sox and claimed the game would be going into extra innings when the score was in the th so yesterday he notices that sosa s ahead in the count against maddux and says this is a fastball situation and sosa will be looking for it but this is also the spot where maddux throws the straight change sure enough sosa gets ahead on it and pops it up to the infield stoney for cubs manager rick
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re young catchers in article mssc qmx netcom com mss netcom com mark singer writes now keith mitchell as i recall no stat books handy surprise he jumped from aa to atlanta in he did so well that he was returned to the minors where he didn t do very well at all now his career is in jeopardy so how does he fit in with your point good mle s in aa moved him right to the big club now he s one step away from being traded or moved out of baseball duh methinks you recall wrong mitchell hit close to in atlanta and continued to walk alot after his promotion he was then i think left off the playoff roster and started the next year in the minors where even the braves will tell you he underperformed because he was so mad at going back down he struggled last year no doubt but even the braves blamed part of it on the demotion i d much rather have mitchell than say mark whiten on the cards russ smith i don t know anything about x s but i know about some o george gervin on being an assistant coach
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chris webber chokes after the marvelous time out call by chris webber which resulted in a technical foul since his team had no time outs left perhaps webber will take the place of bill buckner as the master of choke at least this red sox fan hopes so ted when chelsea clinton s secret service agent had to be replaced by an active duty soldier she objected on the grounds that her family dislikes the military krueger gas uug arizona edu
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re designated hitter rule ekdfc ttacs ttu edu david coons the rules say baseball is a game between two teams of nine players each let s keep it that way niepornt phoenix princeton edu david marc nieporent not any more the rules don t say that so that s a pretty dumb argument really my little mind be boggled i don t have a rule book yet so david would you please post the new wording of rule i am mightily curious much thanks wayne hathaway domain wayne ultra com ultra network technologies uucp ames ultra wayne daggett drive phone x san jose ca fax
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camden yards i am fortunate enough to have tickets for an orioles red sox game in baltimore on saturday july st i haven t been to the new park and i was wondering if anyone out there can give me pointers or good tips or anything helpful about the place so that i can enjoy every moment spent there for instance what time do the gates open do we see the orioles take bp when will the red sox take bp anything you can tell me would be appreciated thank you in advance please respond to my e mail address i know it s still three and a half months away but i m psyched sue
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re rickey henderson and michael jackson jack nicholson and bill cosby wouldn t be making near as much money if they weren t entertainers so what s your point actually i could care less what his salary is it has something to do with the fact that we live in america and everyone is entitled to whatever he can legally obtain if sandy alderson and the haas family willingly negotiate a salary of million per year with rickey i couldn t care less but what really gets my goat is the bullshit he spouted in spring training about well sometimes i may not play as hard or might be hurt more often in a place where i m not appreciated this quote was in the chronicle about the second week of camp and strongly suggests that he was going to dog it all year if the ownership didn t kiss his butt and ante up some more money for god s sake rickey you signed a contract years ago now honor it and play say all you want to about steve garvey and believe me i hated him too but at least when he put his signature on a piece of paper he shut his mouth and played hard until the contract was up matt bohnert
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re david wells in article apr iccgcc decnet ab com carrd iccgcc decnet ab com writes has david wells landed with a team yet i d think the tigers with their anemic pitching would grab this guy pronto they did for k jim
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seer stephenson picks the a l east having run completely out of time i ve got to get my prophesies and predictions for the a l out qualifications one of the worse finishes in last year s prediction contest al east baltimore orioles why the orioles well i pondered long and hard and it all came down to this the blue jays are going the wrong direction can t bring myself to pick the yankees milwaukee was a fluke indians aren t ready to contend red sox were bad last year and didn t get any better detroit s pitching will be the new definition of replacement level but you don t really think the orioles will win do you no as a matter of fact i can t see any team in the american league winning either division on paper with the possible exception of the yankees who i hate but some body has to win so i pick the orioles you don t really think that brady anderson is going to repeat do you no i m basing the orioles prediction on the expectation of big years from cal ripken and glenn davis glenn davis that s insane yes so without further ado strong points hoiles ripken some years olson getting rid of billy ripken weak points segui may start valenzuela the original something may be the fifth starter oates puts his best hitters at the bottom of the lineup does anybody else think that might be a calculated maneuver to minimize the effect of a slumping ripken if you can t move ripken out of the spot why not move the rest of the line up would be a good sign glenn davis wins comeback player of the year would be a bad sign in a tight pennant race team trades for pecota obprediction the streak continues harold reynolds leads the team in caught stealing new york yankees strong points abbot key perez could have best pitching in american league boggs should improve on hayes weak points mattingly still considered best hitter the steinbrenner factor the yankees lost to the mets can wholesale changes be far behind never count on rookie pitchers i e wickman millitello to win a division would be a good sign boggs hits over would be a bad sign howe gets arrested again obprediction mattingly won t top a ops toronto blue jays strong points management willing to make big deals management has eerie power to convince other teams its prospects are not suspects olerud guzman alomar weak points the jackson for bell trade has shaken my faith in gillick losing stewart may hurt rotation that s really a bad sign no one in the outfield can get on base pitching is thin behind guzman and ward would be a good sign jack morris considered cy young contender in august would be a bad sign club makes no major deals in august obprediction morris will post better era and whip totals than last year and have a losing record milwaukee brewers strong points pitching staff was exceptional last year weak points molitor gone surhoff at third why eldred can t keep it up would be a good sign listach and eldred play like last year would be bad sign bones plays like last year obprediction surhoff won t finish the year at third cleveland indians strong points baerga belle nagy weak points pitching staff thin losing olin really hurts starts felix fermin would be a good sign bielecki s era is consistent with his atlanta starts would be a bad sign ted power bullpen ace obprediction alomar will be back on the dl by the all star break boston red sox strong points clemens viola clemens detroit clemens weak points most incompetent gm in baseball key free agent signing andre dawson burks is gone hatcher in center would be a good sign rainouts in between clemens starts would be a bad sign clemens on the dl obprediction russell will make sox fans forget reardon interpret that how you will detroit tigers strong points tettleton phillips whitaker weak points if fielder keeps declining he ll be a shortstop this year worst rotation in baseball entirely replaced but not necessarily better this year could be very ugly would be a good sign cecil fielder deserving the mvp would be a bad sign cecil fielder not whining about deserving an mvp obprediction cecil won t lead the league in rbis one more division to go dale j stephenson steph cs uiuc edu baseball fanatic it is considered good to look wise especially when not overburdened with information j golden kimball
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re rockies not rookies in c u kr news cso uiuc edu dbl uxa cso uiuc edu daniel brian lake writes you d think that an expansion team would be filled with young ns not guys like murphy galaragga b smith it depends if you can get your old veterans cheap and if they can perform at a higher level than your young talent can now why not the talent develop in the minors while giving the fans some familiar names to cheer if the veterans are gone in a year or two that should be just about right maybe someone should tell those renegade front office people in denver open question which was more important to the expansion clubs the expansion draft or the regular draft they ve had one of each i think dale j stephenson steph cs uiuc edu baseball fanatic it is considered good to look wise especially when not overburdened with information j golden kimball
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re cubs behind marlins how gajarsky pilot njin net writes morgan and guzman will have era s run higher than last year and the cubs will be idiots and not pitch harkey as much as hibbard castillo won t be good i think he s a stud pitcher this season so far morgan and guzman helped to lead the cubs at top in era even better than the rotation at atlanta cubs era at while braves at we know it is early in the season we cubs fans have learned how to enjoy the short triumph while it is still there
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re giants gm quinn is a genius in autodesk com trs autodesk com tom schroeder writes nlu xenon stanford edu nelson lu writes during the same time span the braves developed john smoltz tom glavine steve avery david justice ron gant and jeff blauser among others avery i believe came from the phillies jeff blauser avery was the overall pick by the braves behind mark lewis i think in john smoltz came over to the braves from the tigers but was developed by the braves jeff blauser isn t a bad player dale j stephenson steph cs uiuc edu baseball fanatic it is considered good to look wise especially when not overburdened with information j golden kimball
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best record ever in baseball of all teams i believe the cubs have the best record ever in baseball sometime way far back and something admiral steve c liu admiral steve c liu internet address admiral jhunix hcf jhu edu commander in chief of the security division of the pi club earth chapter president of the earth chapter of the pi club founded april world champions baltimore orioles why not series in the yards stanley cup champions washington capitals committee for the liberation and intergration of terrifying organisms and their rehabilitation into society the only problem is that the abbreviation is clitoris from the polymorph episode of red dwarf the bangles are the greatest female rock band that ever existed this sig has been brought to you by frungy the sport of kings my god man drilling holes through his head is not the answer dr mccoy you know susanna hoffs has a really nice ass comment by m flanagan the pi club creating the largest signatures for the past nine months
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re players rushed to majors i don t know if you could call him rushed but big ben mcdonald didn t much time at all in the minors of course that was because the balls used in aaa had seams too large and gave mcdonald blisters forcing him to go on the dl several times he s done most of his learning here in the majors of course gregg wild thing olson and mike deserved a cy young mussina didn t spend much time in the minors either i read somewhere that pitchers are less likely to need that much time in the minors anyway so maybe that has something to do with it let s go o s why not admiral steve still reliving sept liu admiral steve c liu internet address admiral jhunix hcf jhu edu commander in chief of the security division of the pi club earth chapter president of the earth chapter of the pi club founded april world champions baltimore orioles why not series in the yards stanley cup champions washington capitals committee for the liberation and intergration of terrifying organisms and their rehabilitation into society the only problem is that the abbreviation is clitoris from the polymorph episode of red dwarf the bangles are the greatest female rock band that ever existed this sig has been brought to you by frungy the sport of kings my god man drilling holes through his head is not the answer dr mccoy you know susanna hoffs has a really nice ass comment by m flanagan the pi club creating the largest signatures for the past nine months
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marlin fans i was watching the dodgers marlins game yesterday and a couple of things impressed me first is that the way the sun was shining in miami it had a summer atmosphere in early spring for baseball in comparison wrigley field in early april still has a wintry look to it with the dead ivy and bundled up fans the second and most important was the fans i like these guys gals i will admit i am a football fan first but i still enjoy baseball it was interesting because most of these fans are only accustomed to the miami dolphins the way they were cheering i thought it was the afc playoffs of course opening day may have a lot to do with it but i really got feeling of electricity that i think is lacking with a lot of baseball fans in other cities baseball certainly needs a charge and i hope these two expansion teams bring back some excitement we ll find out friday how denver bronco fans respond phillies are i better say it now before my opportunity passes by
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re best homeruns i personally will never forget mike schmidt s home run against the expos in that decided the nl east it was also his career high th another home run that i thought was totally incredible was in the alcs the ca angles had the boston red sox strike away from the pennant until don baylor hit a two strike pitch for a home run that was the most incredible turn of events i have ever seen in baseball the sox later took the pennant away only to have the same thing done to them in the ws against the mets speaking of the mets isn t it strange how the nlcs that year with the astros almost mirrored the nlcs with the phillies the astros have been painfully close twice i must admit
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re florida sucks this talk about the phillies winning the nl east is scary very scary don t get me wrong im a phillies fan but as late as last year they looked helpless the funny thing was they did have a lot of injuries in spring training that basically killed their chances of course don t forget the dykstra wrist injury in the first or second game
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the phillies deja vu after reading my local paper today i found out that the phillies started the season at i am not as old as but i ve heard many talk about the serious choke job the phillies did that season they were ahead of the cardinals by games that season in mid august they managed to lose a bunch from then on and the cardinals took the division games ahead and lost it i hope this season is much different
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re notes on jays vs indians series in article apr cs cornell edu tedward cs cornell edu edward ted fischer writes in article rudyc fr q cl netcom com rudy netcom com rudy wade writes in article c fmxd pm cs dal ca niguma ug cs dal ca gord niguma writes reference to history because he certainly didn t have the best season for second basemen in history he probably didn t even have as good a season as alomar last year what do you have some measure like popularity in toronto doesn t count that you are basing this statement on uh yes baerga has a lot of flash but alomar was the better hitter last year batters ba slg obp g ab r h tb b b hr rbi bb so sb cs e baerga c alomar r this is fascinating you say that alomar was the better hitter last year and immediately follow that up with numbers showing that baerga had a better year the only category that i see which shows an advantage for alomar is obp
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tiger stadium gif does anybody have a gif of the tiger stadium seating chart thanks brian curran mead data central brian meaddata com i didn t think i should ve been asked to catch when the temperature was below my age carlton fisk chicago white sox catcher on playing during a degree april ball game
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re the phillies deja vu in article apr cabell vcu edu csc imd cabell vcu edu ian m derby writes after reading my local paper today i found out that the phillies started the season at i am not as old as but i ve heard many talk about the serious choke job the phillies did that season they were ahead of the cardinals by games that season in mid august they managed to lose a bunch from then on and the cardinals took the division games ahead and lost it i hope this season is much different i don t shannon cardinals fan kohl
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re braves pitching updatedir in article apr pts mot com ep dn pts mot com dave naehring x p writes in article adobe com snichols adobe com sherri nichols writes every single piece of evidence we can find points to major league baseball being offense defense a run scored is just as important as a run prevented this certainly passes the common sense test for me but is there any statistical evidence to say what percent of defense is pitching and what percent is fielding i d really like to know btw sherri thanks for the da data i find it fascinating of course a run scored is just as important as a run prevented just as a penny saved is a penny earned enough with the cliches my point is that if the braves starters are able to live up to their potential they won t need much offensive support i realize this is a big if this staff leaves the bosox in the dust there is no legitimate comparison two cy young winners and three other pitchers that most any team in the league would kill to have as their first or second starter it seems to me that when quality pitchers take the mound the other teams score less runs the team that scores the most runs wins this puts the team with the better pitching at the advantage providing they can stop the opposing team from scoring runs a low scoring game would clearly benefit the braves they should have many low scoring games due to their excellent pitching and below average hitting on the flip side if you had a starting lineup of great offensive players i would be arguing that this team would not need great pitchers they would have an advantage because they could simply outscore their opponent the name of the games is to win even ray knight knows that you do this by putting more runs up on the scoreboard all i m trying to say is that if you assemble the quality pitchers like the braves have the offense doesn t need to be as strong sam dave sherri nichols snichols adobe com
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re tigers woof woof david shapiro people can call it a monkey but i felt like shapiro david yale edu i had a piano on my back all winter long shapiro minerva cis yale edu the piano is off my back maybe a trombone will be next stan belinda
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cards mailing list count me interested in a cardinal s mailing list if anyone finds one or starts one please let me know thanks dick detweiler rdetweil hpdmd boi hp com
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re cubs expos roster questions in article apr vmsb is csupomona edu cvadrnlh vmsb is csupomona edu writes today cubs activated p mike harkey from dl whom did they move to make room for harkey also are delino deshields john wetteland of the expos on the dl thanks for anyone who can give me more info ken cal poly pomona wetteland is on the dl effective march or something like that rick
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re tigers a s in article apr sbcs sunysb edu wynblatt sbgrad cs sunysb edu michael wynblatt writes weird thing leading going into the top of the ninth sparky used his ace closer henneman the tigers have relievers and at least were rested available does sparky trust them that little i think he just wanted to get henneman some work because the tigers had days off both the day before and the day after jim
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re phillies sign mark davis does that mean they have to pay his salary didn t they wait for him to clear waivers if not why not davis will be paid by three clubs this year i think the phils are responsbible for about or so they didn t wait for him to clear waivers as three other clubs were also very interested in him a gamble yes oh it will as a royals fan i am skeptical they say he pitched well in winter ball he also pitched well at omaha while with kc he just didn t pitch well or even acceptably when in the majors i don t have his atlanta stats but he must not have impressed them very much either what about the year when he got saves in san diego did he pitch well then ok i know he was awful the next year when he went to kc but still won the cy young too for that year
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re florida sucks in article apr cabell vcu edu csc imd cabell vcu edu ian m derby writes this talk about the phillies winning the nl east is scary very scary don t get me wrong im a phillies fan but as late as last year they looked helpless the funny thing was they did have a lot of injuries in spring training that basically killed their chances of course don t forget the dykstra wrist injury in the first or second game first game first at bat
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re players rushed to majors in article c hq o g p tss com hanson tss com hanson loo writes didn t bob horner go straight from arizona state univ to the atlanta braves i remember he had one great month hitting dingers and then the next i heard he was in japan a month well he did have a short career compared to what one might have expected for such a highly touted prospect due to being injury prone overweight and having no work ethic but he certainly did not suffer from being rushed to the bigs len reed holos software inc voice ext domain lbr holos atl ga usa uucp lbr holos uucp
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sid fernandez i read this morning that sid fernandez left last nights game with stiffness in his shoulder does anyone have any information as to the extent of the injury if indeed there is one or weather the cold air in colorado just got his joints a little stiff thanks for the help ray miller disclaimer cub chopin jpl nasa gov all opinions are strictly my own i once spent a year in philadelphia i think it was on a sunday wcfields
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re yankkes game closer in article apr freenet carleton ca aa freenet carleton ca ralph timmerman writes from aa freenet carleton ca ralph timmerman subject re yankkes game closer date tue apr gmt in a previous article w axe acadiau ca jason walter works says the n y yankees are now one game closer to the a l east pennant they clobbered cleveland on a fine pitching performance by key and two homeruns by tartabull first m l baseball to go out this season and a three run homer by nokes for all of you who didn t pick boggs in your pools tough break he had a couple hits and drove in a couple runs with many more to follow the yanks beat an up and coming team of youngsters in the indians the yankees only need to win more games to get the division go yanks mattingly for g glove and mvp and abbot for cy young jason does that mean we have to read this drivel another times this season please spare us and check you facts before you post ralph timmerman there is no life after baseball aa freenet carleton ca no one says you have to read any of it ralph go play in traffic or take a nap they work for me kevin kerr kkerr mkcase dseg ti com president north texas c programmers users group bbs go yankees go dolphins strolling through cyberspace sniffing the electric wind
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let it be known i would like to make everyone aware that in winning the nl west the atlanta braves did not lead wire to wire through games of the houston astros are percentage points ahead of the unbeatable braves go astros byron t lee a native texan stuck in utah
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mlb standings and scores for thu apr th mlb standings and scores for thursday april th including yesterday s games national west won lost pct gb last streak home road houston astros won atlanta braves lost san francisco giants lost los angeles dodgers lost colorado rockies lost san diego padres lost cincinnati reds lost national east philadelphia phillies won pittsburgh pirates won st louis cardinals won new york mets won chicago cubs won montreal expos lost florida marlins won american west won lost pct gb last streak home road texas rangers lost california angels won oakland athletics lost seattle mariners won chicago white sox won minnesota twins lost kansas city royals lost american east boston red sox won new york yankees won toronto blue jays lost detroit tigers won cleveland indians lost milwaukee brewers lost baltimore orioles won yesterday s scores idle teams listed in alphabetical order national league american league houston baltimore montreal texas pittsburgh seattle san diego toronto chicago cleveland atlanta boston cincinnati california philadelphia milwaukee new york kansas city colorado new york florida minnesota ppd san francisco chicago rain st louis detroit idle los angeles oakland idle joseph hernandez rams lakers jtchern ocf berkeley edu kings dodgers raiders jtcent soda berkeley edu angels clippers
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re boog powell was re camden yards in article apr alchemy chem utoronto ca mark b says was he better than balboni this borders on blasphemy bob vesterman
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re nl vs al in article apr news yale edu sean garrison says in article rvesterm vma cc nd edu rvesterm vma cc nd edu wrote pitchers who are doing well are more likely to be taken out of the game in the nl than they are in the al so it seems to me that the al not the nl promotes pitchers duels bob vesterman on what basis do you make this statement q sean are you serious pitchers are pinch hit for in the nl they are not in the nl if a pitcher is cranking in the al he will stay in the game if he is cranking in the nl he may not especially if it s a pitchers duel and his team needs an extra run bob vesterman
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re ugliest swing in article oasys dt navy mil kiviat oasys dt navy mil brian kiviat says what i think is hotdogish about his ab s is the way he leans out over the plate to watch outside pitches etc this not done to get a better look at the pitch but to make it seem this ball is so far out i need to lean just to get near it so you better call it a ball this is my unbiased opinion of what i see your mileage will vary rickey is agreat player to watch if you forget who he is at the time a lot of batters lean in when pitches come rickey s crouch tends to exaggerate that i think a great player to watch if you forget who he is unbiased hmmm bob vesterman
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re aguilera causes cardiac arrest in article qi dinnemh phakt usc edu wagner phakt usc edu loren wagner writes in article apr bmw mayo edu bergerson mayo edu writes maybe you would rather have ron davis back the truly amazing thing was how many years this bum was the closer for the twins you d have thought they could find somebody better don daybell wagner usc edu going into the ninth with a run lead runs score runners on first and second rd throws there s a drive waaaaaayyyyyyy back puckett to the wall leaps he caught the ball what a catch by kirby twins win and rd gets the save his line ip walks hits and one robbed home run paul
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re kevin rogers rogers is the one batter lefty in the bullpen dusty has also said he trusts rogers to get the final out in a ballgame where beck is unavailable so you might see a couple of saves for kevin then again if any of the regular rotation falters rogers is a possible candidate to start though this would appear less likely now that dave burba did well in an emergency start steven
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torre the worst manager joe torre has to be the worst manager in baseball for anyone who didn t see sunday s game with a right hander pitching he decides to bench lankform a left handed hitter and play jordan and gilkey both right handers later in the ninth inning with the bases loaded and two outs he puts lankford a hitter with power in as a pinch runner and uses luis alicea a hitter with no power as a pinch hitter what the hell is he thinking earlier in the game in an interview about acquiring mark whiten he commented how fortunate the cardinals were to get whiten and that whiten would be a regular even though this meant that gilkey would be hurt but torre said he liked gilkey coming off the bench gilkey hit over last year what does he have to do to start the guy would be starting on most every team in the league furthermore in sundays game when lankford was thrown out at the plate the replay showed bucky dent the third base coach looking down the line and waving lankford home i can t take this anymore brian a very distressed cardinal fan brian landmann georgia institute of technology internet gt a prism gatech edu
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re brien taylor where is he last year brein taylor was in a ball probably at tampa in the florida state league i believe he began this year in aa which is albany hopefully george won t rush him and he ll be allowed to progress at his own rate to aaa and then to the bronx this guy is the real thing jonathan alboum uva
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wfan does any one out there listen to wfan for those of you who do not know what i am talking about it is an all sports radio staion in new york on a clear night the signal reaches up and down the east coast in particular i want to know how len berman and mike lupica s show is i go to school in virginia so i can t listen when there are on during the day just wondering jonathan alboum uva ps did any one see steve sommers on hours last night the chief was on too doing rangers round up it was pretty neat shmoozing s p o r t s on tv
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orioles phillies red sox can someone send me ticket ordering information for the following teams baltimore philadelphia and boston also if you have a home schedule available can you tell me the dates for all home games between july aug and between aug sept and if any of these games are promotion nights or special discount nights thanks ron ps and also who the opponents are for these games do not reply to this account please reply to ronc vnet ibm com ibm canada lab database technology associate development analyst on astelletto tie line internal mail tor
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re pleasant yankee surprises in article netnews upenn edu sepinwal mail sas upenn edu alan sepinwall writes and now the not so pleasant surprises tartabull the book on tartabull was keep him healthy and he ll produce well he hasn t done too much so far sure he s hit a few homers but those were all solo shots and he hasn t gotten any of the big rbis that your cleanup man is supposed to give you then again he had a slow start last year once he got off the dl that is and turned into a one man wrecking crew see you in the series alan let s see april th less than at bats and you claim that he hasn t done too much so far cut this guy some slack danny will produce this year it s scary to think just how much he ll produce if he were to stay healthy all year the yanks have a lot going for them this year good starting rotation good bullpen good defense and a good lineup also i like buck showalter frank howard on st is also a good move everything sounds good so far if the yanks stay healthy they have a good chance at winning the pennant this is the most fun i ve had watching the yanks since bobby
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old predictions to laugh at oops i came across this file from last year thought you might enjoy some of these thoughts the predictions were made on the date indicated they are largely out of order june tedward cs cornell edu me what have i done i computed the expected winning percentage for each team from their obp total bases and runs allowed i use the basic rc formula and the pythagorean projection i then compare this with their actual winning percentage all stats through june team obp tb ra w l xwp diff baltimore boston toronto new york milwaukee detroit cleveland minnesota oakland texas chicago california kansas city seattle you all know how things turned out the orioles red sox and yankees all disappeared the jays and tigers continued at essentially the expected pace the brewers and indians cranked in the second half the rangers predictably took a dive that shouldn t have surprised anybody meanwhile as predicted the mariners dropped behind the angels and royals they clearly didn t deserve the record in june the white sox and a s upped their game a bit while the twins dropped off a little but for the most part things were as expected okay so there were a few blatant errors but for a predictive calculation i thought this did pretty well from cavgeoe yalevm ycc yale edu tue mar the braves insert kent mercker into the starting rotation sometime this year bielecki is traded or released lei brandt becomes the fifth starter and the best bullpen in baseball has pena berenguer stanton wohlers freeman and pete smith who spot starts as well hm pete smith made the rotation instead of mercker and bielecki wasn t released until the end of the year i won t comment on the bullpen jeff reardon blauser wins the starting shortstop job outright by the end of may bream goes on the dl and klesko goes on a nice hitting honeymoon a la gregg jefferies in platooning with hunter mitchell wins the center field job a bit later all star break and nixon stays on as a valuable pinch runner lonnie is released unless the braves find a taker in a trade right on blauser wrong on bream and mitchell a bit early on lonnie as with bielecki didn t pick sanders did anybody managers to be fired this year in chronological order fregosi showalter valentine riddoch three of them went right showalter is still around and likely to stick it seems from mattel auto trol com mattel auto trol com tue mar bonds gets traded from bucs for some young talent nope they won the division and so kept him for a shot at the playoffs mets win division well they didn t finish last atlanta repeats in the west got that one right yankees surprise everyone but finish second behind toronto nope dwight gooden wins but is surpassed by saberhagen who wins i guess this is why you picked the mets to win huh roger clemens is injured early in the season tsk tsk not nice to predict something like this strawberry fails to hit even home runs and is often injured due to dodgers drop out of race you got that right and my response from tedward tue mar hmph can tell you are a mets fan do you mind if i make some counter predictions against yours they follow mets come in third behind pittsburgh and montreal okay so the mets finished fifth but i got the pirates and expos right the yankees offense and pitching flounders dropping them to fourth place in the al east boston wins games the division the pennant and the world series first half dead on second half ummm i m a sox fan go easy on me dwight gooden rushes his comeback gets blown out and goes on the dl from may through mid july saberhagen runs a record wfan criticizes the mets for giving away that great talent jefferies who has a solid year in kc so i got my predictions for gooden and saberhagen reversed i was at least close and was right about jefferies though i don t know has wfan criticized the jefferies trade roger clemens wins another cy as well as games close no cigar in article udqceao vpeii li andrew cmu edu al x andrew cmu edu amit likhyani writes excerpts from netnews rec sport baseball apr re nl east smiley trade s cavgeoe yalevm ycc yale ops projected for hojo i will streak naked down forbes avenue if hojo does not muster more than a ops something is wrong with that projection some predictions need no introduction from navarra casbah acns nwu edu mon apr from tedward cs cornell edu do you care to put your prediction down for posterity you predict mark grace will get rbis i say you are out of your mind that is almost impossible for a hr type guy batting behind dawson who kills most of the rallies he doesn t finish why do you say that mark has driven in and last year mark was batting second primarily and it was his worse year average wise since he is batting either rd or th this year i predict he will be back up to his previous standards i think he will be better rbi s is not that much of a stretch sometimes us statheads get lucky grace didn t hit behind dawson the entire season but he also finished with only rbis from nss midway uchicago edu tue may the most ballsy prediction ever mark mcgwire will hit or more hrs this year nope he slowed down and the injury finished him off didn t even reach but a ballsy prediction nonetheless from ecaxron mars lerc nasa gov thu may baltimore will not fade they will not win the division this year but they will finish within five games i find the prospect of two orioles winning each easier to comprehend than that of two sox no offense i think their pitching is about as good as the division has to offer the orioles finished seven games out none of them won though mussina might have had a chance with better relief and more starts nobody else in the division is worth a darn they all finish a minimum of fifteen games out the tribe that s another reason to watch baltimore this year and next they won t waste many of those games against the rest of the division except for the brewers who you probably forgot you were right the rest of the division was thoroughly mediocre the yankees and indians led with wins the red sox trailed with wins none were horrible but four were five or more games below from djohnson cayley uwaterloo ca david johnson date thu aug gmt right that was me i never said the jays were a cinch to clinch it but i said that milwaukee will be more of a threat than baltimore i do think that toronto should win it but after i don t consider anything a cinch unless you have something like a game lead with games to go i do think that the jays have the best talented team in the al east and if we had a good or even average manager we might have a bigger lead right now i also think that the orioles will not play much better than baseball for the rest of the season you win from king cogsci ucsd edu thu nov in article nov cs cornell edu you write indians the first and only season ever prediction the cleveland indians will win or more games next year you were right from stvjas meteor wisc edu fri sep jose rijo will win the cy young award if he is healthy enough to go at least ip who would have thought he would try to steal a base why risk such an injury he had ip but didn t win the cy young maddux surprised all the orioles will win games in at least of the next years probably the last and their pitching staff will have a team era among the best in the al in at least of the next years but not necessarily all the same years as they win this one will take a long time to verify i don t think i want to wait that long but they won games last year and they were fifth in the league in era not a bad start ben mcdonald will not challenge for an era title in the next years nor will he have victories either year by challenge i mean finish among the leaders being among the leaders before the season is done doesn t count he will probably never be the pitcher he was hyped to be but is still a decent starter to have looks like it he wasn t bad last year just too consistent to be an ace so far this year looks like more of the same the phillies will give up many fewer walks if when they get rid of their bullpen coach ryan i am not predicting when or whether they will get rid of him and you will have to give the team a little bit of time to adjust before seeing the radical change they would have a fine pitching staff if they would just steal ray miller away from pittsburg the white sox seem to have the same problem but not as bad i honestly can t say did they get rid of him their bb totals were down last year ricky jordan will have rbi if he starts games hitting in the or or spot in any lineup or the spot in a lineup with very good obp in the hitters this applies for each of the next years i just don t think he s that good billy ripken will never again hit over with ab so far so good i m definitely not waiting to check this one from panix spira cmcl nyu edu fri sep no matter what lou gorman and his scouts say paul quantrill will never ever be an adequate major league starter never i have never seen a starting pitcher who can only strike out per innings at aaa be successful in the majors current plans seem to be to use quantrill in long relief he has a rubber arm and unusual delivery he might be decent in that role from lyle ecn purdue edu sat sep m v p a l frank thomas n l hal morris division winners a l east baltimore orioles a l west chicago white sox a l pennant chicago white sox n l east st louis cardinals n l west cincinatti reds n l pennant cincinatti reds w s champion cincinatti reds wrong on all of the above hal morris and my favorites from tedward sun oct belle will not walk as many as times in belle will hit more hr than he has walks in belle hit hr last year walking times but five of those were intentional okay so i exaggerate but i might have been right from trn strdev jhuapl edu tue mar are the o s going to sign cal of is eli s wallet welded shut outgoing money only wide open for incoming cash my prediction which you may make note of valentine is that eli jacobs will defer any serious negotiations on cal ripken s contract until the season is over eli will give cal every opportunity to have his stats tumble a bit from last year s pace before coming forth with an offer despite claims that op cy was designed to cal s strength my feeling is that the foot left center canyon will cut down on cal s power stats after all it s hard to credibly to offer million year to an all star game mvp al mvp gold glove shortstop baseball deity but it d be a lot easier to offer a similar salary to an obviously declining but above average shortstop who had a career year one full season ago of course if cal does match his numbers then eli is going to be faced with a rather huge and expensive problem how much did cal sign for when did he sign if i remember correctly he got a rather hefty contract despite a weak season and finally from jpalmer uwovax uwo ca thu sep generally because of expansion in there will be a lot of mediocre talent hanging around much of it will not make it as the expansion teams look for younger talent around which to build their teams my specific predictions as of april jim acker and cory snider will be selling aluminum siding snyder is still in sf acker is gone neither charlie kerfeld nor vance lovelace presently in tiger aa but formerly big leaguers will be playing professional ball they aren t in the majors nor will dave rozema who says he s keeping in shape with a hope for another shot with expansion never heard of him shawn hare and jody hurst will be in the major leagues they are outfielders in the tiger minor league system i don t think they are in the majors ron hassey will be a minor league manager with the yankees dunno what happened to him it will be bye bye for balboni if he s still around he s stuck in the minors bo jackson will not be a starter hm with raines out bo looks to get a lot of pt gary huckaby will have moved to alaska permanently they re on the net and dave kirsch will return to canada to live hm thanks for listening 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i ve found the secret why are the red sox in first place eight games into the season they already have two wins each from clemens and viola clemens starts again tonight on three days rest what s up are the sox going with a four man rotation is this why hesketh was used in relief last night hm cheers valentine p s i was wrong the sox have already scored runs in two games this week they should reach without trouble i still think it s a fluke
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re braves pitching updatedir sbp acad drake edu said in article adobe com snichols adobe com sherri nichols writes every single piece of evidence we can find points to major league baseball being offense defense a run scored is just as important as a run prevented of course a run scored is just as important as a run prevented just as a penny saved is a penny earned enough with the cliches it s not a cliche and unlike your comments below it s not a tautology it needn t have been true if every pitcher in baseball were essentially the same in quality i e if the variance of pitching ability were much smaller than the variance of batting ability then scoring runs would be much more important than preventing them simply because the ability to actively prevent runs would be much weaker my point is that if the braves starters are able to live up to their potential they won t need much offensive support if that s your point you should have said so what you in fact said was pitching and defense win championships and later pitching is the essence of baseball neither of which says what you are now claiming was your point and neither of which is true it seems to me that when quality pitchers take the mound the other teams score less runs the team that scores the most runs wins and you accuse sherri of mouthing cliches this puts the team with the better pitching at the advantage providing they can stop the opposing team from scoring runs a low scoring game would clearly benefit the braves it s not clear to me at all that this is true in high scoring games the team with the better offense wins a high percentage of the time in low scoring games the split is essentially regardless of team ability they should have many low scoring games due to their excellent pitching and below average hitting on the flip side if you had a starting lineup of great offensive players i would be arguing that this team would not need great pitchers i thought you said pitching and defense win championships and pitching is the essence of baseball david m tate dtate pitt edu greetings sir with bat not quick member iie orsa tims sabr hands not soft eye not discerning and in denver they call you a slugger the big catullus galarraga and compare you to my own mattingly
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re notes on jays vs indians series substituting irony for brains bruce klopfenstein said dtate pitt edu david m tate writes of course they left rbis off we re comparing alomar the individual with baerga the individual so only individual stats count i forgot most runs are scored by players stealing home so rbi don t count for anything uh right you also forgot that you can t get an rbi barring a hr with nobody on base what fraction of all runs come on solo hr most runs are scored because there happened to be players on base when the batter did something good i use the phrase happened to be advisedly lots of people have tried to figure out who the players are who have the most ability to turn it up a notch in clutch rbi whatever situations and what they ve found is that there is no evidence that anyone has such an ability to any measurable extent there are no clutch hitters people who tend to do things that would cause an rbi if there were somebody on base end up getting rbis proportional to how many of their teammates obliged by being in position my mistake i agree david m tate dtate pitt edu greetings sir with bat not quick member iie orsa tims sabr hands not soft eye not discerning and in denver they call you a slugger the big catullus galarraga and compare you to my own mattingly
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re spanky released in article apr sei cmu edu wp sei cmu edu william pollak writes deletions spanky isn t very good defensively anymore he s an offensive liability and judging from his outburst this winter after the bucs failed to sign drabek he s a jerk with his head in the sand tommy prince on the other hand can t hit in the paper simmons was citing the case of tom pagnozzi who never hit in the minors or majors but suddenly somehow learned how geez dal must have slipped something into ted s drink sometime comparing prince to pagnozzi offensively is laughable prince has never hit well in the minors and he s now years old i think pagnozzi was not a bad hitter in the minors i ll bring in the numbers tomorrow assuming i don t have another brain cramp and forget he had a very good year at louisville before coming up to the majors as i recall the hype on pagnozzi coming up in the organization was good hit decent fielding when he got to the majors and didn t hit as well as expected not as much playing time he became exhibit in nichols law of catcher defense and got the reputation as an outstanding defensive catcher it s not clear he ever learned to hit his four years with more than ab born july year ab ba slg oba no power less than league average walks peak year when he turned now declining if ted is going to invoke pagnozzi as a model for prince given that prince has underperformed pagnozzi in the minors it s not a rosy picture btw i m still unhappy with moving zeile who had the same reputation coming up in the cardinal organization as pagnozzi except that he was a much much better hitter to rd where he could be an average hitter and a below average fielder instead of a well above average hitter as an average or below average fielding catcher harold harold brooks hbrooks uiatma atmos uiuc edu national severe storms laboratory norman ok i used to work for a brewery too but i didn t drink on the job p bavasi on dal maxvill s view that florida can win the nl east in
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re players rushed to majors i missed the original post but aren t the expos rushing alomost their entire team this year i am from montreal and am a fan but geez the expos rank th in salary only the rockies trail and someone at the average age would probably be in first year university corelmark
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re cubs expos roster questions in article b f c de a msu oscs montana edu alird msu oscs montana edu writes in article apr vmsb is csupomona edu cvadrnlh vmsb is csupomona edu writes today cubs activated p mike harkey from dl whom did they move to make room for harkey also are delino deshields john wetteland of the expos on the dl thanks for anyone who can give me more info ken cal poly pomona wetteland is on the dl effective march or something like that rick wetteland comes off the dl on april rd and will be evaluated on the th he is throwing well and without pain on the side deshields is not on the dl he suffered from the chicken pox and lost this is the official total pounds he will be back hopefully next week walker will be back this tonight or tomorrow corelmark from montreal
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re cubs expos roster questions to make room for harkey the cubs sent shawn boskie down to aaa
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re astros are back in article c hhwv cvk austin ibm com marc yogi austin ibm com marc j stephenson writes keeping in line with the pessimists on the net i ll hold off on the astros being all the way back they could indeed contend but that would count on atlanta encountering some unforeseen problems such as injuries or keeping up their early season abysmal hitting while atlanta has the undisputed best starting rotation i feel that their relief staff may be suspect they don t have a real closer although mike stanton saves has been used in that role didn t stanton start off great last year and then falter despite this your point is well taken atlanta doesn t seem to have the same personality as a ny team thus is unlikely to self destruct for houston to take em atlanta needs to suffer some injuries particularly to their starting rotation astros relief corps holding together if doug jones keeps his changeup effective and xavier hernandez can be effective then it s passable there s no reasonable left handed help and the middle relief is iffy tom edens was expected to take over the joe boever setup man role but he s been injured and he was an expansion team acquisition anyway houston thought that boever would demand too much money so they let him go doug jones can lose his touch he went from cleveland s all star closer to the minors in a pretty short span from what i understand boever and murphy were considered expendable by the club houston felt that their positions could be filled by a number of players art doug jones is the key to houston s success he must have another great year for houston to challenge in the nl west lousey spring closer to the minors in a pretty short span right a strong rotation will take the pressure off of the troubling bullpen bit of shakiness at the fifth starter slot but that s basically normal taubensee anthony gonzalez and cedeno fulfilling some hitting potential anthony appears to be about there taubensee s swing looks a lot better this year solid knock against expos last night gonzalez is showing some early power and cedeno still has the loopiest swing this side of tim wallach the unsuspected strength of the lower part of the order has saved the club so far biggio and finley just aren t doing their job of getting on base instead of filling his role as an rbi man bagwell has had to assume biggio and finley s job biggio concerns me since he usually starts the season very strong on a side note are you at all concerned with the rumors concerning next year s uniform there is talk that their road uniform will be blech traditional grey with the word houston written across the chest if i m not mistaken their home uniforms may totally eliminate the color orange shiver mclane s favorite color is red so i m really upset the current unforms are dull and the new ones sound horrible i d like to see the uniform of the mid s return they may not have been pretty but houston had established a long precident of wearing the ugliest uniforms in baseball and i liked it end of the bargain remember two years ago a little relief goes a long way then they could win games but i doubt it i ll project them at wins astros fan since the days of staub morgan jackson aspromonte dierker marc stephenson ibm aws advanced workstations systems austin tx disclaimer the content of this posting is independent of official ibm position internet marc austin ibm com vnet marc at ausvmq ibm t l astros fan since the days of ryan scott smith cruz davis bass hatcher david s schwam university of houston st rp jetson uh edu
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dave kingman for the hall of fame hi baseball fans so what do you say don t you think he deserves it i mean heck if dave winfield ho hum is seriously being considered for it as is lee smith ha then why don t we give dave kingman a chance or darrell evans yeah yeah after the hall of fame takes in them it can take in eddie murray and jeff reardon well in any case i am sick and tired mostly sick of everybody giving hall of fame consideration to players that are by today s standards marginal honestly ozzie smith and robin yount don t belong there they re both shortstops that just hung around for a long time big deal let s be a little more selective huh stop handing out these honors so liberally save them for the guys who really deserve it face it if something isn t done there will be little prestige in the hall of fame anymore when certain individuals believe that steve garvey or jack morris are potential candidates the absurdity is apparent gee can these guys even compare to the more likely future hall of famers like kirby puckett or nolan ryan steve
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re seeking moe berg reference info in article c hvfs dw news cis umn edu lsmith deci cs umn edu lance squiddie smith writes in article apr vax clarku edu hhenderson vax clarku edu writes david tate writes also in particular a colleague of mine is looking for any information he can find on moe berg catcher linguist espion of ww any references or anecdotes for that matter would be appreciated moe berg my hero we were just talking about him on monday at the yankee game well there s a book about him that s just been reissued i think the title is moe berg athlete scholar spy by tom sewell and two other people whose names i forget sewell wrote the chapter on berg in danny peary s book cult baseball players this is a good source for some of the more famous anecdotes about berg also excellent is the section on him in bill gilbert s book they also served about baseball during wwii i m told berg s spy activities are mentioned in the recent book heisenberg s war his sister also wrote a book about moe that she self published the title is something like my brother morris berg it s mainly some of her memories and page after page of xerox copies of pictures and letters that moe had saved copies are kinda hard to find but the smith baseball library has one for those in minneapolis we have one here at berg s alma mater class of it s kind of a sour thing she disapproved of the job that sewell et al had done roger
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texas ranger ticket info would someone please give me the address for texas ranger ticket orders thanks very much jim
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re torre the worst manager from another not so distressed but still wondering about a few things cardinal fan in article hydra gatech edu gt a prism gatech edu brian r landmann writes joe torre has to be the worst manager in baseball he s not the greatest this is true for anyone who didn t see sunday s game i saw it with a right hander pitching he decides to bench lankform a left handed hitter and play jordan and gilkey both right handers lankford was hurt although the announcer said he told torre he could pinch hit if they needed him to later in the ninth inning with the bases loaded and two outs he puts lankford a hitter with power in as a pinch runner and uses luis alicea a hitter with no power as a pinch hitter what the hell is he thinking i wondered the same thing but giving joe the benefit of the doubt i d say he was thinking that lankford is hurt enough that he didn t trust his ability to bat effectively but he wants his speed on the bases so pinch run him alicea i was completely confused about maybe he had a good record hitting against that particular pitcher i don t know anybody got an idea earlier in the game in an interview about acquiring mark whiten he commented how fortunate the cardinals were to get whiten and that whiten would be a regular even though this meant that gilkey would be hurt but torre said he liked gilkey coming off the bench gilkey hit over last year what does he have to do to start the guy would be starting on most every team in the league well so far i haven t seen much to say whiten shouldn t be playing but it is too bad that gilkey is the odd man out when they play jordan ahead of him that i don t quite understand furthermore in sundays game when lankford was thrown out at the plate the replay showed bucky dent the third base coach looking down the line and waving lankford home yup i looked for this on the replay too if i m joe torre i m going to have a talk with bucky after the game on that one he s got lankford at third with todd zeile i believe a hot hitter coming up there s no reason to risk giving lankford the go sign in that situation unless he was sure the ball is going to the stands it s his job to watch the play develop he should have known larkin was there to back up a bad throw that seemed inexcusable in my book btw i saw dent do the same thing last year with zeile rounding third and going into a sure out at home in a critical situation on the replay there s dent waving him around it looks like this might be a serious problem the card s weren t good base runners at all last year and i wonder how much of the fault lies in the base coaching i can t take this anymore well i m still hanging in there go redbirds woof woof brian a very distressed cardinal fan brian landmann georgia institute of technology internet gt a prism gatech edu dick detweiler rdetweil hpdmd boi hp com
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re dave kingman for the hall of fame in article apr news yale edu steve tomassi writes honestly ozzie smith and robin yount don t belong there they re both shortstops that just hung around for a long time big deal are you for real how many gold gloves does ozzie smith have if a guy hung around and hit homers a year for years wouldn t he be a given for the hall is defense not just as important and if robin yount couldn t hit why would he have stuck around long enough to get hits are you saying hits is a fluke hits is no big deal let s be a little more selective huh stop handing out these honors so liberally save them for the guys who really deserve it face it if something isn t done there will be little prestige in the hall of fame anymore when certain individuals believe that steve garvey or jack morris are potential candidates the absurdity is apparent gee can these guys even compare to i agree garvey and morris don t deserve it the more likely future hall of famers like kirby puckett or nolan ryan well based on your argument nolan ryan doesn t deserve the hall of fame he is just a right hander who stuck around for a long time and could throw hard very few game winning seasons lots of losing seasons lots of walks no cy young awards how does nolan ryan compare to a guy like steve carlton who dominated or major league seasons won divisons world series and won half of his teams games in he doesn t compare not even close kirby puckett hasn t done it long enough for me give me more seasons like he s been having then i ll think about it
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re wfan in article apr virginia edu jja h virginia edu writes does any one out there listen to wfan for those of you who do not know what i am talking about it is an all sports radio staion in new york on a clear night the signal reaches up and down the east coast in particular i want to know how len berman and mike lupica s show is i go to school in virginia so i can t listen when there are on during the day just wondering the fan is an okay sports radio station but doesn t come close to the ultimate in sports radio wip in philadelphia the signal might not be as powerful but then again only stations in new york feel obligated to pollute everyone else s airwaves with a bunch of hoodlum mets fans complaining hours a day wip took two of your best sports jockeys too jody macdonald and steve fredericks wip is rockin with sports talk from am till midnight check it out anytime your within a few hours of philadelphia if i m not mistaken wip has the highest sports talk ratings in the nation rob p s the only nice thing about the fan is that they talk sports all night hopefully will begin to do that somewhat soon
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re expanded nl strike zone was re a surfeit of offense it was my impression watching the mets rockies that umpires were calling strikes above the belt too but not as far up as the letters it would be nice if this were the case jay
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fenway gif i was wondering if anyone had any kind of fenway park gif i would appreciate it if someone could send me one thanks in advance dan
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re harry caray last night bill veeck cam to me in my dreams and this is what he said cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs scuk cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs cuck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck cubs suck oh yeah he aqlso added that harry is a drunken idiot who shoulda stayed in st louis where his heart is but also added that fair weathered fans all like to be together i guess this is the reason harry is now a cub fan bud man note he never really left st louis jim walker go sox cubs suck
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re old predictions to laugh at in article apr cs cornell edu tedward cs cornell edu edward ted fischer writes oops i came across this file from last year thought you might enjoy some of these thoughts the predictions were made on the date indicated they are largely out of order much crap deleted managers to be fired this year in chronological order fregosi showalter valentine riddoch three of them went right showalter is still around and likely to stick it seems dead wrong last time i checked jim fregosi was still managing the phillies and doing quite a fine job thank you best record in baseball at my prediction for jim fregosi will win manager of the year in the nl don t flame me flame the bum who thinks he got fired last year pay attention kiddo
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re dave kingman for the hall of fame steve tomassi writes hi baseball fans so what do you say don t you think he deserves it i mean heck if dave winfield ho hum is seriously being considered for it as is lee smith ha then why don t we give dave kingman a chance or darrell evans yeah yeah after the hall of fame takes in them it can take in eddie murray and jeff reardon well in any case i am sick and tired mostly sick of everybody giving hall of fame consideration to players that are by today s standards marginal honestly ozzie smith and robin yount don t belong there they re both shortstops that just hung around for a long time big deal let s be a little more selective huh stop handing out these honors so liberally save them for the guys who really deserve it face it if something isn t done there will be little prestige in the hall of fame anymore when certain individuals believe that steve garvey or jack morris are potential candidates the absurdity is apparent gee can these guys even compare to the more likely future hall of famers like kirby puckett or nolan ryan q steve what s the difference between nolan ryan and yount both have hung around for years and continue to post great stats why shouldn t dave kingman get into the hall or murray evens reardon and others what the hell do you have to do ask an opposing pitcher whether he thinks that winfield should be in the hall god pretty soon you ll be saying that cal ripken doesn t deserve to be in the hall then i ll flame you chintan amin the university of illinois urbanachampaign mail llama uiuc edu neil peart c quick to judge quick to anger slow to understand ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand
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re players rushed to majors in article apr holos uucp lbr holos uucp len reed writes in article c hq o g p tss com hanson tss com hanson loo writes didn t bob horner go straight from arizona state univ to the atlanta braves i remember he had one great month hitting dingers and then the next i heard he was in japan a month well he did have a short career compared to what one might have expected for such a highly touted prospect due to being injury prone overweight and having no work ethic but he certainly did not suffer from being rushed to the bigs sorry len this is exactly how he suffered from being rushed to the bigs being overweight and having no work ethic leading to being injury prone with nothing to loose might have been corrected in richmond did you intend a smiley after your comment this brings back the long suffering memories of pre chop braves fans who kept being promised the bob horner dale murphy back to back power slam who could stop that guess we ll never know p s rocky fans are there any yet is dale getting any playing time out there i plan to be at the game on june th they ll have to play him then read that to memory and process it russell earnest georgia institute of technology atlanta georgia uucp allegra amd hplabs seismo ut ngp gatech prism re arpa russell earnest housing gatech edu
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phillies mailing list anyone know of a phillies mailing list out there they don t get much coverage up here in grand rapids mi sob elaborate signature files are for people who aren t as busy as i am dh david hollebeek dholle ursa calvin edu
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re do people want stats in article hpfcso fc hp com dougs hpfcso fc hp com doug steele wri tes this is a top posting for the al home runs hits batter team hrs batter team hits gonzalez tex baerga cle palmer tex phillips det did anyone think that texas would have the top two home run leaders at a given point in the season and neither one would be jose canseco steve steve casburn scasburn magnus acs ohio state edu i personally despair of results from anything but violent and ruthless truth telling that will work in the end even if slowly john maynard keynes
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re white sox update i think lamont is tryin sax out in left because he is messing with his mind he is trying to stir loose the mental block that he has had sax was supposed to play in left last night but we were rained out it s not like we need to add any more outfielders to our team it s mental jimmy go sox cubs suck that s the white sox dontcha know
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re cubs expos roster questions in article apr pavo concordia ca m klein pavo concordia ca corelmark wrote in article b f c de a msu oscs montana edu alird msu oscs montana edu writes in article apr vmsb is csupomona edu cvadrnlh vmsb is csupomona edu writes today cubs activated p mike harkey from dl whom did they move to make room for harkey also are delino deshields john wetteland of the expos on the dl thanks for anyone who can give me more info ken cal poly pomona wetteland is on the dl effective march or something like that rick the cubs sent boskie to iowa to make room for harkey jeff eastman jaeastman anl gov
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re seeking moe berg reference info in article blue cis pitt edu dtate pitt edu david m tate writes i seem to have misplaced the baseball bibliography that was posted here recently that s what happens when you have to split a heap of disorganized files from one machine among two others could some kind soul repost the bibliography or mail me a copy also in particular a colleague of mine is looking for any information he can find on moe berg catcher linguist espion of ww any references or anecdotes for that matter would be appreciated dave i believe si had an in depth article on moe a while ago i remember that the article revealed some new facts regarding the secretive moe my si subscription expired this past february the second of two years that i received same therefore my guess is that the article appeared sometime in can anyone else be more definitive as to a date of the si article jerry
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re the phillies deja vu in article apr cabell vcu edu csc imd cabell vcu edu ian m derby writes after reading my local paper today i found out that the phillies started the season at i am not as old as but i ve heard many talk about the serious choke job the phillies did that season they were ahead of the cardinals by games that season in mid august they managed to lose a bunch from then on and the cardinals took the division games ahead and lost it i hope this season is much different strictly from memory i think the phillies were something like ten games up with to go lost in a row and of last to lose to the cardinals seems impossible but thats how i remember it i also felt at the time that johnny callison of the phillies lost the mvp as a by product of their swoon jerry p s in a single team out of won the pennant no divisions
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re orioles trivia in article apr hpcvaac cv hp com paula koufax cv hp com paul andresen writes in article apr galileo cc rochester edu sparky balsa lle rochester edu michael mueller writes hi all does anyone know who were the pitchers for the orioles that were referred to as the kiddy corp because they were so young steve barber chuck estrada jack fisher milt pappas this list brings to mind possible the worst trade since babe for nono nannette i e milt pappas for frank robinson i think in robinson proceeded to win the triple crown in and may have beaten out yaz in but was injured on a slide into second when he collided with the mighty al weis chisox jerry
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dumb fans was re indians woofing in article bcc ee ohstpy mps ohio state edu letizia ohstpy mps ohio state edu writes do you mean just like reds fans have you listened to wlw anytime they open up the lines for fans to call talk about clueless idiots the broadcasters are just as bad too jl the new york talk shows are just awful in this regard people are constantly calling wfan and wabc with stuff like i was thinking why don t the yankees trade kaminicki and silvestri to seattle for ken griffey jr and randy johnson that would really help the team or do you think the yankees can get roger clemens the show hosts are pretty good about handling these guys but it s still annoying the best one was at the end of one show a caller started out with i was thinking why don t the yankees trade for and then the host hung up on him i cheered michael
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re tigers in article rk vsanu miamiu bitnet ryan kearns rk vsanu miamiu bitnet writes i think that the detroit tigers are the greatest baseball organization of all time shameless woofing deleted on behalf of the rest of us tiger fans out here i appoligize for this shameless woofing we try to keep it to a minimum but we did win a game the other day so sometimes it s hard to control see phillies fans michael
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missing subject header in article hydra gatech edu gt a prism gatech edu brian r landmann writes joe torre has to be the worst manager in baseball for anyone who didn t see sunday s game with a right hander pitching he decides to bench lankform a left handed hitter and play jordan and gilkey both right handers that s because lankford had a minor injury from a couple of games before that and was day to day only available as a pinchrunner later in the ninth inning with the bases loaded and two outs he puts lankford a hitter with power in as a pinch runner and uses luis alicea a hitter with no power as a pinch hitter what the hell is he thinking see above earlier in the game in an interview about acquiring mark whiten he commented how fortunate the cardinals were to get whiten and that whiten would be a regular even though this meant that gilkey would be hurt but torre said he liked gilkey coming off the bench gilkey hit over last year what does he have to do to start the guy would be starting on most every team in the league at the beginning of the interview torre also said lankford is the one outfield guy who s in there no matter what my guess is jordan will eventually end up being odd man out due to low on base percentage whiten was a great acquisition decent offense and great defense in rightfield but don t worry gilkey will be starting as soon as jordan or whiten displays an extended period of low offensive output
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re dean palmer hurt edward ouellette edo casbah acns nwu edu wrote i think dean got hit by a pitched ball the other night he got pinch hit for and didn t play against baltimore tonight whats up with that is he hurt please tell me he s not he evidentally got hit in the elbow by a fernando pitch his arm swelled from the elbow to the wrist or something like that they took x rays of the arm and there is nothing damaged he missed the last game with the orioles but he is suppose to be ready for the next game hope this helps mike west west esd dl nec com
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scoring runs was re notes on jays vs indians series in article blue cis pitt edu dtate pitt edu david m tate writes uh right you also forgot that you can t get an rbi barring a hr with nobody on base what fraction of all runs come on solo hr actually for the padres this year so far it s they are th in the league in hrs and all have been solo shots pythagorean projection puts them at winning percentage or need some pitching help fast good news though is that hurst has been throwing curveballs w o any pain threw pitches yesterday should be back in a couple of weeks maybe we can trade him to the yankees for militello dave dave demers demers cs ucsd edu computer science engineering demers cs ucsd bitnet uc san diego ucsd cs demers la jolla ca or fax
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re pleasant yankee surprises in article netnews upenn edu sepinwal mail sas upenn edu alan sepinwall writes some pleasant and then some not so pleasant surprises about the edition of the bronx bombers so far first the pleasant spike owen all through spring training this guy was looking like the second coming of mike gallego but with even worse hitting now the guy is third in the major leagues in ba and he s ranked pretty high in total hits and runs scored i know it s still early in the season but he and pat kelly more on him in a minute have provided a lot of spark at the bottom of the order that s given the big guys mattingly tartabull o neill plenty of rbi opportunities let s hope he keeps this up pat kelly the guy is finally showing some of the ability that led stick michael to label him a star for the s i wouldn t go that far but kelly looks infinitely improved at bat i guess the tips he took from boggs in spring training really paid off huh and here i thought boggs would never do anything to help anybody besides himself and his glove like always has been terrific he and mattingly comprise the best defensive right side of the infield in all of baseball imho paul o neill we had to get rid of roberto kelly partly because he was under too much pressure in ny to be the next barry bonds he won t do that in cincy either and partly because he had this real unprofessional tendency to give up in the second half of the year i just felt that we could ve gotten more for him than o neill well so far o neill is turning out just fine he looks like he should be able to duplicate if not surpass mel hall s numbers from last year and he keeps opposing pitchers from pitching around tartabull now if only buck would play him against lefties some more to see what he can do wickman a friend made a comparison between wickman and jack morris they never have impressive stats but they always find some way to win although morris seems to be losing that ability i figured that wickman would be the least important part of the steve sax trade best trade since we got that ruth guy maybe winding up as a good middle reliever but i like what i ve seen so far he doesn t pitch pretty but he gets the job done key what s going on here key was just supposed to provide the rotation with some stability you know shore up the left side provide experience get maybe wins and here this guy is dominating everybody he faces who needs maddux or cone i ll take key any day and now the not so pleasant surprises spike owen sure he s hitting like crazy but the guy cannot field to save his life and they said he was brought in to provide defense velarde stankiewicz and even silvestri are better defensively than owen remember it s still early look for his offense to tail off and his defense to improve hopefully he has that rep because i heard that either last year or over the last years or something like that he has the third highest fielding percentage among major league shortstops behind c r and tony i m not gonna help this sorry mets team at all fernandez i do agree though that he has not looked all that impressive in the field thus far tartabull the book on tartabull was keep him healthy and he ll produce well he hasn t done too much so far sure he s hit a few homers but those were all solo shots and he hasn t gotten any of the big rbis that your cleanup man is supposed to give you then again he had a slow start last year once he got off the dl that is and turned into a one man wrecking crew late in the year so we ll see the bullpen ugh what happened we were supposed to have one of the most solid pens in the majors meanwhile the pen has already blown three saves maybe more i haven t checked the great howe farr lefty righty tandem farr s era is in the s or s and howe s is infinite i didn t think such a thing was possible but it is hopefully they ll get their acts together or else buck s gonna burn out the starters for fear that the bullpen ll blow a lead in the immortal words of the scooter holy cow seaver that johnny key guy can pitch can t he see you in the series alan
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re torre the worst manager in article hydra gatech edu gt a prism gatech edu brian r landmann writes joe torre has to be the worst manager in baseball brian a very distressed cardinal fan no hal mcrae is the worst manager in baseball i ve never seen a guy who can waste talent like he can one of the best raw talent staffs in the league and he s still finding a way to lose i ll be surprised if he makes it through the next weeks unless drastic improvement is made an even more frustrated royals fan darin j keener dak s vma smsu edu
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re dave kingman for the hall of fame in article c jbse kkk news udel edu philly ravel udel edu robert c hite writes are you for real how many gold gloves does ozzie smith have if a guy hung around and hit homers a year for years wouldn t he be a given for the hall is defense not just as important frankly no offense and defense are equally important but the pitcher is of the defense the primary role of every other player is on offense even shortstops are a bigger part of the offensive game than of the defensive game they might not do much with their part of the offense but that s another issue that being said i think both smith and yount deserve the hof they hit pretty well in addition to their defense cheers valentine
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re the phillies deja vu jerry sheldev shel isc br com gerald lanza writes p s in a single team out of won the pennant no divisions make that ten not eight the mets and astros joined the n l in eric smith erics netcom com erics infoserv com ci
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re old predictions to laugh at in article c jcrf krm news udel edu philly ravel udel edu robert c hite writes dead wrong last time i checked jim fregosi was still managing the phillies and doing quite a fine job thank you best record in baseball at look asshole i got him confused with somebody else i didn t flame you and i would appreciate it if you extended me the same courtesy no i don t know everything in the world does that surprise you valentine
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