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re pleasant yankee surprises in article apr cs cornell edu tedward cs cornell edu edward ted fischer writes in article apr alleg edu luriem alleg edu michael lurie the liberalizer writes i d be willing to make two wagers snow doesn t win roy mattingly is out of baseball within five years i m skeptical of the first because i don t think snow is that good a player and he is on a losing team i don t have a history handy but i don t recall that the preponderance of roy s come from winning teams in fact i think team performance is generally irrelevant as almost always the most deserving candidate wins am i wrong and he is not necessarily on a losing team while the angels staff is still very weak their everyday lineup is doing quite well thank you snow is playing great salmon is learning to make the adjustments easley appears fine but even if he s not flora is ready to come up between gonzales and gruber they ll manage the hot corner polonia and curtis are steady and heady even myers and orton are contributing personally i think they can finish over which makes them a winning team the beastmaster i m skeptical of the second because of his back mattingly is this year and how many players play until they are not too many and most of them didn t have chronic back problems when they were could be wrong on either or both but i think that s the smart way to bet cheers valentine mark singer mss netcom com
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music censorship survey please fill out hello i m doing a paper on censorship in music and i would appreciate it if you took the time to participate in this survey please answer as each question asks why simply means that you have room to explain your answer if you chose the last question is for any comments questions or suggestions thank you in advance please e mail to the address at the end i are you male female ii what is your age iii what is your major occupation iv what type of music do you listen to check all that apply a hard rock b metal c alternative d blues e rap f jazz g soft rock h easy listening i country j classical k hard core l dance m new age n others did i miss any do you think recordings with objectionable or offensive lyrics be labeled yes no why do you think certain recordings should be banned from minors under years of age yes no why do you think certain recordings should be banned period yes no why if yes to any of the above who should decide a parents b government c music industry d other feel free to add any comments on this do you think more less should be done for controling record sales or do you think the present labeling system is enough what is your definition of censorship also feel free to add comments suggestions questions or further explanations please e mail at mtt kepler unh edu or hit r to reply thanks matthew t thompson disclaimer if any responses are used in paper they will be anoynamous sp unless the person specifies they what their name to be used this sig is closed for repairs ution matthew t thompson rrrrrrr pound pound thud ouch duh e mail at mtt kepler unh edu or shazam unh edu
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erickson keith miller hi i was just wondering if anyone knew when erickson and keith miller are expected to come back and what exactly ails them sincerely frank s kim
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re dave kingman for the hall of fame i m no kingman fan just thought i d point out that he s the only player in history to have five three hr games joe carter has four eddie murray three mccovey and gehrig also three ruth mays foxx and dawson two each i don t think reggie s ws game counts else i believe he would also have had two the beastmaster mark singer mss netcom com
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re braves pitching updatedir in article apr ulkyvx louisville edu pjtier ulkyvx louisville edu writes if the braves continue to average runs a game then is where they will finish p tierney so if the braves run production falls to per game which is certainly where it s headed if they re lucky does that mean they ll finish first econ duke edu fls econ duke edu fls econ duke edu fls econ duke s to my correspondents my email has been changed e l my new address is fls econ duke edu d f if mail bounces try fls raphael acpub duke edu u
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re sandberg runs rbis was re notes on jays vs indians series bratt crchh a nosubdomain nodomain john bratt writes rbis and runs scored are the two most important offensive statistics actually they re pretty worthless if you want to evaluate players with stats rbis and runs scored should be banned all they do is confuse victims of mediot brainwashing like yourself you can talk about obp and slg all you want but the fact remains the team that scores more runs wins the game uh so you ve just explained why we use obp and slg to evaluate players precisely because the team that scores more runs wins the game traditional baseball stats have gotten way too far away from methods which enable fans to see who contributes to those runs scored that s where obp slg runs created linear weights etc come in these simplify matters so that we can more easily measure a player s offensive contribution to the team s runs scored thank you for making our case have a nice day greg
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re wfan no he s not nuts wip is second to none the sports station they don t have tony bruno working espn radio and al morganti doing friday night hockey because they suck i live in richmond va but i visit phila often and on the way i get wtem washington and wip i hear the fan at night wherever i go the signal used to be wnbc when they played golden oldies because you can t avoid it of those three wip has the best hosts hands down chuck cooperstein isn t a homer and neither is jody mac wtem is too generic to be placed in the catergory in fact if you have heard wtem and the fan you notice the theme music is identical same ownership i think so wip is totally original their hosts actually have a personality this is a knock at tem the team not the fan because mike and the mad dog and sommers are good i mean comparing the morning guys in philadelphia to the ones in washington is a total joke anyway i like the fan and wip but i think the edge goes to ip when i get back from philly i go into withdraw cause richmond has nada except the national sports line and those guys are totally clueless i was really mad when wcau was cancelled because they had steve fredericks doing sports phone after the phillies games wcau is another strong station now it s an oldies station but they still have the phillies i started listening to the fan because i heard he went there i finally heard him last summer and he wasn t the same guy those ny fans got to him i was glad to hear him back in philly when i went to see a few eagles games i will admit i am die hard eagles fan and wip is basically an eagles station days a year but i bet you the phillies are in control right now about the knock on g cobb i like him he knows the eagles like a book i remember the weekend before they went to play san fran when everyone thought the eagles would be blown away cobb said that the eagles usually play their best when no one believe they can win well they were inches shy of pulling the victory well that s my
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best sportwriters since someone brought up sports radio howabout sportswriting anyone give an opinion which city do you think has the best sports coverage in terms of print media these are general questions is the washington post better than the philadelphia inquier or the ny times howabout the philadelphia daily news compared to the new york daily news do you notice papers being subjective or objective to the home team
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re notes on jays vs indians series something else to consider alomar s h r splits were slg obp baerga s was and pretty clearly alomar got a huge boost from his home park not necessarily it could mean that or it could mean that he just hit a lot better at home than he did on the road see frank thomas home road splits in for an example i would guess that some of alomar s split is due to the skydome but most of it is probably due just to coincidence there s no way to be sure of course but the only hitters the skydome seems to regularly help a lot are right handed home run hitters and alomar is not a home run hitter i d say you could make a good for them being about equal right now t p rated baerga higher actually only because of t p s bogus fielding stats which rate alomar as the worst defensive second baseman in the league on a career basis i think t p s fielding stats may mean something but on a seasonal basis it comes up with ridiculous results like this alomar may not be the god of fielding the media says he is but he sure isn t the worst in baseball offensively t p rate alomar much higher last year regarding the a vs b argument i ll just say they re both very good players with different strengths and a bright future greg
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re all time best players in article apr princeton edu roger crux princeton edu roger lustig writes in article apr bsu ucs mbstultz leo bsuvc bsu edu writes i ve recently been working on project to determine the greatest players at their respective postions b career what about u johnny hodapp the greatest nd baseman in cleveland indians history hits in consistantly over a great great second baseman jon johnny hodapp jmhodapp aplcomm jhuapl edu
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re best sportwriters csc imd cabell vcu edu ian m derby writes since someone brought up sports radio howabout sportswriting i happen to be a big fan of jayson stark he is a baseball writer for the philadelphia inquirer every tuesday he writes a week in review column he writes about unusual situations that occured during the week unusual stats he has a section called kinerisms of the week which are stupid lines by mets brodcaster ralph kiner every year he has the lgtgah contest that stands for last guy to get a hit he also writes for baseball america that column is sort of a highlights of week in review if you can check his column out sometime he might make you laugh rob koffler you live day to day and rkoffler ux cso uiuc edu dream about tomorrow don henley
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re pleasant yankee surprises in article mssc k gi g netcom com mss netcom com mark singer writes i don t have a history handy but i don t recall that the preponderance of roy s come from winning teams in fact i think team performance is generally irrelevant as almost always the most deserving candidate wins am i wrong not really though i wouldn t personally say the most deserving candidate wins rarely does a player win roy when called up in mid season and there have been several duds in recent years but this is more a factor of mediot biases than anything else i wonder if amaral hits like he is capable of will he receive roty votes he s only he could have a long career ahead of him and he is not necessarily on a losing team while the angels staff is still very weak their everyday lineup is doing quite well thank you snow is playing great salmon is learning to make the adjustments easley appears fine but even if he s not flora is ready to come up between gonzales and gruber they ll manage the hot corner polonia and curtis are steady and heady even myers and orton are contributing personally i think they can finish over which makes them a winning team i think they are a second division team they should finish ahead of the royals mariners and possibly athletics but i don t think they ll be above i think the east is stronger this year last year their pitching was bad and their offense was horrible this year their offense is better but their pitching is still pretty bad even if finley returns to form he won t replace what they lost in abbott sanderson farrell i don t believe it and while their ba may be good and they have decent speed their offense lacks punch they don t have any bona fide power hitters salmon snow davis and curtis none with more than hr potential cheers valentine p s which al team had the most steals last week those go go tigers the mediots finally managed to convince them that they needed more balance in their lineup you see they were scoring too many runs too consistently gotta run more to break that up
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re survey yes i know this is not rec music as someone has already pointed out thanks i know that i m trying to get a random sample and also i m desperate for respones so please don t mail me complaining that it doesn t belong here or that it is wasting bandwidth this affects everybody not just readers of music groups please either complete the survey or hit n because i ll just bounce back complaints thank you matt matthew t thompson electrical computer engineering etallic university of new hampshire e mail mtt kepler unh edu or my evil twin at shazam unh edu
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re jewish baseball players in article apr acad drake edu sbp acad drake edu writes i remember reading somewhere that of the league was jewish during the s now there is practically nobody
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i think i am going to cry again yankees lose it again i can t believe this howe has an era in the s he is improving key pitches a great game and they screw it up again
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re jewish baseball players in article c jsxs m unix amherst edu jlroffma unix amherst edu joshua lawrence roffman writes baseball players past and present we weren t able to come up with much except for sandy koufax somebody stankowitz and maybe john lowenstein can anyone come up with any more i know it sounds pretty lame to be racking our brains over this but humor us thanks for your help john lowenstein is definately not jewish many in baltimore thought he was especially after he told the baltimore jewish times so but later he admitted that it was a joke stanky is not jewish at least i doubt it a lot of jewish people don t have jewish names
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re pleasant yankee surprises in article apr cs cornell edu tedward cs cornell edu edward ted fischer writes in article apr alleg edu luriem alleg edu michael lurie the liberalizer writes actually i kind of liked the abott trade we did trade the rookie of the year snow but with don mattingly at first for another years why bother i d be willing to make two wagers snow doesn t win roy mattingly is out of baseball within five years no you are quite correct but i was using some wishful thinking jt snow was wasting away while abbott can provide a great resourse for the team
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re jewish baseball players in article qkkodinn f jhunix hcf jhu edu pablo jhunix hcf jhu edu pablo a iglesias writes in article apr lafibm lafayette edu vb lafibm lafayette edu vb writes hank greenberg would have to be the most famous because his jewish faith actually affected his play missing late season or was it world series games because of yom kippur kofax missed world series game because of the jewish day of repentence
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re ryan out for weeks and then cs aq news uta edu cs aq quoth nolan ryan has torn cartlidge inhis right knee is having surgery and is expected to miss weeks that s too bad i really had hoped nolan could end his career with a great year i suppose there is still hope jason lee jplee oboe calpoly edu jlee cash busfac calpoly edu giants e i pi the most beautiful equation in mathematics magic for all sad words of tongue and pen the saddest are these number it might have been john greenleaf whittier
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braves offensive offense deion sanders hit a home run in his only ab today nixon was for infield single deion s batting over nixon around whom would you start wise up bobby see y all at the ballyard go braves chop chop michael mule michael andre mule georgia institute of technology atlanta georgia uucp decvax hplabs ncar purdue rutgers gatech prism gt e internet gt e prism gatech edu
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astros for real who thinks the astros are going places they re currently first place they re on the road
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re cubs expos roster questions alird msu oscs montana edu writes today cubs activated p mike harkey from dl whom did they move to make room for harkey shawn boskie
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re let s talk phillies in article apr leland stanford edu eechen leland stanford edu emery ethan chen writes one phrase for you fuck you thanks perhaps it s time to start rec sport baseball graffiti where the kiddies can go yell taunts and insults at each other and leave the rest of us in peace sherri nichols snichols adobe com
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re braves pitching updatedir in article apr acad drake edu sbp acad drake edu writes not clear to me at all i d certainly rather have a team who was winning games than games in the game luck is going to play a much bigger role than in the game but you still need the pitching staff to hold the opposing team to one run yeah but what s your point you still need the offense to score more runs than you allow too the braves do have a fine pitching staff but that s still only half the game sherri nichols snichols adobe com
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re why spanky in article ql binn s postoffice psc edu boone psc edu jon boone writes spanky is too slow if he were quicker he would still be here but with slaught and tom prince they didn t want to lose prince in order to bring up that th pitcher slaught is about as good as spanky and prince is coming along nicely tom prince is a year old no hit catcher think of him as a young dann bilardello i can t begin to fathom why the pirates have been so afraid of losing this guy who s been in aaa most of the last seasons the pirates released kirk gibson last year because prince was out of options then eventually sent prince down anyway and he cleared waivers without a peep he s another year older and still can t hit why do they think he wouldn t clear waivers now why would they care sherri nichols snichols adobe com
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re new home for the bosox i agree though i d also be happy with a stadium that looks like new comiskey the new park was also made for baseball unlike three rivers the vet riverfront etc it s not a football park in which they also play baseball while we re on the multipurpose subject let s not forget shea which was designed to accommodate both the mets jets it was the first stadium i think to have the box seats on rollers so they could be oriented at right angles for baseball in parallel for football of course with the jets gone to jersey and a truly good football stadium the mets are saddled with a multipurpose stadium where because it s circular the seats are almost always too far from the action the mets announcers kiner murphy in particular have always hyped it as beautiful shea stadium a tipoff to how unbeautiful it truly is jay
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re orioles trivia bunker mcnally were later pappas estrada steve barber and jay
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darrrrrrrrryl the media is beating the incident at dodger stadium on wednesday to death but i haven t seen anything in rsb yet gerald perry of the cardinals pinch hit in the eighth inning with two on and his club down by a run he stroked a line drive into the right field corner the ball cleared the three foot high fence and went into the crowd darryl racing over from right center got to the spot in time to reach his glove up over the short fence but he missed the ball a fan sitting in the front row wearing a mitt reached up and caught the ball home run now i ve seen the replay several times and i have concluded that darryl missed the ball and that the fan s glove was essentially behind darryl s several dodger fans with seats in the immediate vicinity have claimed that the fan unquestionably interfered with strawberry what cannot be disputed however is that the fan who caught the ball never took his eye off it he was oblivious to where the fielder was playing he was also quite exuberant as soon as he realized he had made the catch that exuberance disappeared immediately however when strawberry went into a tirade at the man all reports indicate he used a lot of profanity and accused the man of interference and therefore of costing the dodgers a game shortly afterwards other fans hurled food and beverages toward the man who made the catch dodger stadium officials started to remove him from the park but then relented and just relocated him to another area in an interview after the game lasorda blamed the fan for the loss strawberry also went into a tirade about how the fans are stupid and they don t care about winning l a times columnists similarly blasted the man who made the catch before each dodger game the public address announcer makes a speech wherein he says that fans are welcome to the souvenirs of balls that are hit into the stands as long as they do not interfere with any that are in the field of play was the fan wrong should he have been more aware of the situation and acted to avoid any possibility of interference or was he human and just reacting by the way he is a season ticket holder and on his request the dodgers have relocated his seats to another area of the stadium where future interference is impossible others have questioned why darryl should be so concerned with what the fan did when he has a grand total of rbi through the first nine games i question what he was doing in right center with a left handed pull hitter up and the game on the line had he been closer to the play he certainly would have had a much better chance of catching the ball but i guess the big debate continues as to what are the responsibilities of the fan the beastmaster mark singer mss netcom com
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gross grosses out dodger fans again went to the dodgers game tonight it was cap night astacio pitched ok but had control trouble all night in the first he walked a batter balked him to second then a single scored the run with the batter taking second on the throw home another single made the score cards lasorda tried a new line up featuring butler reed and piazza batting third darryl and eric were benched in favor of snyder and webster piazza homered in the first to make the score cards the dodgers tied the game in the second on a two out single by offerman by the fourth inning astacio had already made about pitches but the score was still the dodger defense made several impressive plays piazza looked great behind the plate gunning down a runner trying to steal second throwing a runner out at first who had strayed a bit from first base etc karros also made a spectacular play keeping a ball from going into the outfield the runner on first was so sure that ball was going through he just kept running past second karros got up and threw to third and easily got the runner at third my heart sank in the th when gross got up to warm up in the bullpen astacio was lifted for a pinch hitter and when gross entered the game with the score still dodger fans just knew it was over gross was relieving because he stunk on tuesday pitching just innings forcing lasorda to use much of his bullpen the inning game had the same effect the next night so only gross was fresh given his light work out tuesday gross lived up to his name he walked the first batter gave up a hit to the second and walked the bases loaded after a grounder resulted in a force at home zeile lifted a scoring fly ball to make it cards gross paid little attention to the runners and the next thing you knew the cards had stolen a fourth run the runner on first was eventually tagged out in the run down but the th run had scored long before that meanwhile the dodgers mounted little offense after the second inning lee smith pitched the ninth he had little trouble getting karros and wallach does anyone have trouble with wallach these days cory snyder collected his first hit as a dodger a single but that was all the offense the dodgers could mount smith got his third straight save against the dodgers and all i got was my free dodger cap and a good look at piazza if piazza keeps this up all year he will be a strong candidate for rookie of the year honors though its really early karros is already showing signs of a sophomore jinx year the final score cardinals runs on hits dodgers runs on hits dodger
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re fenway gif in article c jb d nt umassd edu acsddc smucs umassd edu writes i was wondering if anyone had any kind of fenway park gif i would appreciate it if someone could send me one thanks in advance dan me too i would like any park or action gif or jpeg about baseball geoff
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game score report just out of curiosity what happened to the weekly al and nl game score reports i used to enjoy reading them throughout the summer for the last two years inquisitively yours joel joel chan joel math toronto edu dept of mathematics university of toronto toronto blue jays world series champs history those who ignore it are condemned to repeat it math too from the comic strip betty
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jays game anyone know the outcome of tonight s jays game home runs winning pitcher eco gods at u w o
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re young catchers in article mssc qa dtv netcom com mss netcom com mark singer writes in article apr cs cornell edu tedward cs cornell edu edward ted fischer writes i m still catching up from spring break but bear with me in the bigs especially when they haven t even played aaa ball we certainly believe this kid is going to be very good some day but there is really no need to rush him especially since we have a mega million dollar staff that is probably well served by a battery mate who is expereienced in game calling and pitcher handling lopez time will come let s give him some time in aaa javy lopez has proven over ab in the minor leagues that he is ready to play in the majors he is not being rushed players who are clearly too good for aa and play behind stiffs at the major league level are wasting their time and may actually have a court case against major league management for keeping them at aaa no maybe i need to improve my writing skills lopez who is very ordinary defensively is not likely to hit so well at age unless lopez is me defensively i m and born to play second base he belongs in the major leagues training what does he have to do to earn a chance maybe not a full time job but at least a couple starts and a few ab for him to prove his worth gee i don t know abs sounds pretty good to me about as good as your reasoning that the kid should play a back up role rather than start every day at aaa talk about me as a gm valentine isn t saying he should back up he s saying he should be put in a position to win the job in the major leagues which imho he would if given the opportunity val if i m misinterpreting please let me know so far you have come up with two arguments against lopez he is very ordinary defensively he is young and most players suck when they are young the first is irrelevant he s trying to make the majors with his bat and the second involves seriously warped reasoning valentine ok most players are not ready for the bigs at age see current related posting on clayton one of my favorites most players benefit rather than being stagnant or hurt by playing at aaa most catchers need to be solid defensively players to help their clubs in the bigs those are the arguments against lopez for the braves for this year but the players who are ready are the best and the ones most likely to benefit from being in the majors javy lopez is not a middle of the road prospect he s the real thing now again the most important thing a player can do is hit lopez does that miles better than olson or berryhill if his defense is good enough for greenville or richmond it s good enough for atlanta if he really was awful defensively he would no longer be a catcher see sprague ed now the braves have two catchers who have demonstrated solid abilities to call games to work with the pitchers to throw out runners not superstars mind you but solid experienced veterans the braves have a very solid lineup with two big bats in the outfield an excellent platoon at first a solid mvp candidate at third and one of the better hitting shortstops the center field platoon will probably hit however good lopez what they have to offset the differential in experience and defensive ability the kid will improve playing at aaa and he probably won t being a reserve with the big club oh where to start ok first of all solid good i want good players solid is one of those words used to describe nice white guys who really aren t very good at baseball think of it as twg without the caps it s a losing strategy to say we have solid guys we don t need to improve you used it four times in that paragraph btw same for experienced i might add though that greg olson and damon berryhill aren t exactly carter and fisk olson has played three years berryhill five although and were a wash the only difference imho between olson and valle is the supporting cast two big bats hrm i like justice but i find mr gant s trend disturbing call it one and a maybe the braves platoon is ok but neither player has any value outside of the platoon bream vs lh and hunter vs rh are awful i ll leave the thirdbase comment alone pendleton has wasted too much bandwidth already if the cf platoon hits i ll retrace mr likhani s midnight run down forbes and i live in ny and la got that mike and doesn t cox call pitches anyway goodness do you believe the other poster who thinks lopez is being held down because of his future earning potential why on earth do you people thinkthe braves made this decision are they idiots who have built this ballclub jeeeesh nope they re baseball management possible the most short sighted collection of people in the nation do you not believe this goes on mark do you think frank thomas needed those three months in aaa in or cal eldred wasn t really better than ricky bones last year and i m the treasure you re mostly polite make defensible if flawed cases have wit and have in the past admitted being wrong that does qualify you on r s b we ll make an sdcn out of you yet the beastmaster mark singer mss netcom com sheehan aludra usc edu greg gohr pitching more like voice tipper gore i m afraid linda cohn sportscenter
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re best sportwriters in article c k nk tv news cso uiuc edu rkoffler ux cso uiuc edu bighelmet writes csc imd cabell vcu edu ian m derby writes since someone brought up sports radio howabout sportswriting i happen to be a big fan of jayson stark he is a baseball writer for the philadelphia inquirer every tuesday he writes a week in review column he writes about unusual situations that occured during the week unusual stats he has a section called kinerisms of the week which are stupid lines by mets brodcaster ralph kiner every year he has the lgtgah contest that stands for last guy to get a hit he also writes for baseball america that column is sort of a highlights of week in review if you can check his column out sometime he might make you laugh might you d have to have no sense of humor at all not to my favorite stuff are the zero heros players who haven t hit homers in a long time the lgtgah who is that named after i can t remember and the box score line of the week incidentally i just found out that the column has been moved to sundays i get my dad to send it to me up here in boston every week great stuff adam a phaithful phillies phan levin
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re phils nl east not so weak in apr guvax acc georgetown edu apanjabi guvax acc georgetown edu writes braves hit like a aaa club shouldn t this read braves hitters are at the aaa club dale j stephenson steph cs uiuc edu baseball fanatic it is considered good to look wise especially when not overburdened with information j golden kimball
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re jewish baseball players there was an article on jewish major leaguers in a recent issue of elysian fields what used to be the minnesota review of baseball as i recall it had an amazing amount of research with a long list of players and a large bibliography peter binkley binkley let rug nl
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early bbddd returns just curious if anyone has started to standout early in the season in the bb ddd this year i expect the phillies staff while getting the wins would have to rank up there luis gonzalez and derrick may are among the early league leaders and all of their bombs have come at the phils expense neither of them have exactly been know for their tater prowess in the past how have the rockies been early i know mile high has produced a ton of runs but is it the launching pad everyone expected yet a concerned fan of the bb ddd adam witness to the phillies lone loss of the season so far levin
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royals the royals are darkness they are the void of our time when they play shame descends upon the land like a cold front from canada they are a humiliation to all who have lived and all who shall ever live they are utterly and completely doomed other than that i guess they re ok randall rhea informix software inc project manager mis sales marketing systems uunet pyramid infmx randall
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re notes on jays vs indians series in article apr webo dg com lyford dagny webo dg com lyford beverage writes in article apr cs cornell edu tedward cs cornell edu edward ted fischer writes in article rudyc fr q cl netcom com rudy netcom com rudy wade writes in article c fmxd pm cs dal ca niguma ug cs dal ca gord niguma writes he probably didn t even have as good a season as alomar last year snip uh yes baerga has a lot of flash but alomar was the better hitter last year stats deleted we ve all seen them by now this is fascinating you say that alomar was the better hitter last year and immediately follow that up with numbers showing that baerga had a better year the only category that i see which shows an advantage for alomar is obp i nominate this last bit for anti stathead quote of the week alomar only has a point advantage in the most important offensive category while baerga who studied in the joe carter school of out burning has more impressive mediot stats largely due to opportunities rather than quality the lines are fairly close in value but edge to alomar now baerga ain t chopped liver but alomar is still the man to beat among al second basemen craig craig s richardson crichar eskimo com formerly eskimo celestial com gm pullman sleepers obfbl gm seattle rainiers ifl gm manager tacoma black adders ibl gm new jack city highlanders kl tacoma black adders a growing excited team the future begins tomorrow
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re lots of runs in rec sport baseball crosen ua vm ua edu charles rosen writes i have noticed that this year has had a lot of high scoring games at least the nl has i believe one reason are the expansion teams any thoughts except for the fact that there seems to be a lot of high scoring al games also and i don t think the expansion teams directly affect them k scott day kday oasys dt navy mil carderock division naval surface warfare center code bethesda maryland the point to remember is that what the government gives it must first take away john s coleman
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proposed catcher re sub rule a lot of teams carry catchers on their man roster but the rd catcher is seldom ever used he is only insurance in case of extra innings or the nd catcher is injured during a game so to free up this roster spot for an extra pinch hitter or reliever why not invoke a catcher re substitution rule if the last roster catcher on a team is injured during a game the team is permitted to substitute in his place for defensive purposes a catcher who has previously been yanked from the game given this rule a team wouldn t need roster catchers the rd catcher could be playing in aaa or be a non roster bullpen catcher ken
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re dopson pitches first shutout red sox win in article c r vt news cso uiuc edu cka uxa cso uiuc edu oriolefan uiuc writes jmann vineland pubs stratus com jim mann writes deleted someone told me this game started at cdt is this true who in their right mind would go to a game on monday at am keep in mind this was in massachussetts today was patriots day a state holiday i think it might be a floating holiday but given that the marathon also happens the same day most people don t go in include std disclaimer h dan s
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all time peak players last week i posted the all time greatest players and haphazardly misspelled several names sorry this week it s time for the greatest peak players i evaluated the following players on consectutive seasons which constituted their prime or peak years was too few seemed to many so i settled for sources as usual include total baseball and my own biased opinions here goes feel free to comment ted williams includes season after war missed actual peak years babe ruth walter johnson mickey mantle mike schmidt actual peak year shortened by strike barrry bonds currently at peak honus wagner ty cobb tris speaker willie mays lefty grove sandy koufax joe morgan ed walsh christy mathewson lou gehrig jimmie foxx cal ripken jr pete alexander cy young tim raines rickey henderson again strike year included carl yastrzemski jackie robinson joe dimaggio rogers hornsby george sisler eddie collins hank aaron stan musial joe jackson wade boggs charlie gehringer ernie banks bob gibson carl hubbell robin yount rod carew chuck klein willie mccovey frank robinson tom seaver roger clemens arguably still in peak mel ott frank baker nap lajoie peak came in suspect league dizzy trout george brett mordecai brown ryne sandberg b peak gehrig foxx sisler mccovey greenberg frank thomas projected sorry dick allen johnny mize eddie murray yes mr consistency had a peak bill terry b morgan j robinson collins hornsby gehringer carew treated as a b even though played b sandberg bobby grich nap lajoie bill herman mazeroski tough call b schmidt boggs f baker brett ed mathews ron santo harland clift ken boyer buddy bell darrell evans ss wagner ripken banks yount john lloyd estimated arky vaughan barry larkin still in peak lou boudreau ozzie smith joe sewell lf williams ba bonds raines henderson actually had peaks yastrzemski musial j jackson ralph kiner al simmons george foster willie stargell cf mantle cobb speaker mays dimaggio oscar charleston again estimated duke snider ken griffey jr personal assumption kirby puckett richie ashburn dale murphy strike season rf ruth aaron klein f robinson ott roberto clemente tony gwynn dave parker reggie jackson harry heilmann jose canseco darryl strawberry c josh gibson estimated mickey cochrane gary carter johnny bench roy campanella yogi berra bill dickey gabby hartnett elston howard ted simmons joe torre p w johnson grove koufax walsh mathewson alexander young gibson hubbell seaver clemens satchel paige estimated d trout juan marichal mordecai brown joe wood dave steib jim palmer bob lemon fergie jenkins rp who cares i hope there are some surprises here raines above muisial carter above bench ripken above banks bonds above mays check the numbers of each player in comparison to the numbers of the rest of the players that year s and you ll see that i m fairly close with this ranking system which is primarily based on total player rating for four consecutive years enjoy mike
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re jack morris in sdcc ucsd edu demers cs ucsd edu david demers writes in article apr ramsey cs laurentian ca maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca roger maynard writes the facts are that morris has shown us that he has what it takes to play on a ws winning club clemens hasn t what does it take to play on a ws winning club we have no way of knowing because we cannot separate morris contribu tion from the rest of the team s there is only one way of determin ing best in baseball and that is by looking at the scoreboard at the end of the game each game determines which team is the best that day at the end of the season the team that was the best the most often is the best in the division the playoffs determine the best of the best but the point is that the only decision making pro cess used to determine the best is the score of the game and it re lates to the teams not the individual players there is no method inherent in baseball of comparing individual performances and that is how it should be because after all baseball is a team game to say that one player is better than another is to be able to say ab solutely that player a s team would have played better with player b in their lineup sheer speculation impossible to ascertain if you want to select a group of statistics and claim that clemens has done better with those statistics as a criteria then fine but you have to be able to prove that those statistics measure the individual s contribution to winning the ws because that is the only measure of best that has any meaning in the context of base ball so until you can prove that clemens contributes to a ws cham pionship more than morris your evaluation of clemens is totally sub jective and is mere opinion i have yet to see that any of you can predict a ws winner with any greater accuracy than jeanne dixon the fact is that morris didn t win any ballgames toronto did in spite of morris contribution this has been explained to you exactly the jays won with morris pitching and boston wins with clemens pitching i am not saying that morris is better than clemens i am saying that individual comparisons between players are totally meaningless and that anyone claiming that clemens is better based on his era has missed the point of what baseball is all about many many times and you are either too stupid or too stubborn to grasp it you don t have to be rude you are completely consumed by the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy for you to say that means that you have either missed the entire point of my argument or you yourself have committed a fallacy ignoratio elenchi i am not saying that morris is better than clemens because he has more rings although i have tongue in cheek claimed that in the past i am saying that it is impossible to isolate an individual s performance from that of his team s for the purpose of comparing that individual s performance with another individual s per formance the stats are a nice hobby and that s about it there is no new knowledge being produced so when a poster claims that morris is better than clemens because he has more rings the poster is no more nor less incorrect than the rest of you baying hounds cordially as always maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca so many morons rm and so little time
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re hbp bb big cat in article c r tv s odin corp sgi com kubey sgi com ken kubey writes i don t blame players like galarraga dawson and mcgee when they swing at a strike and put the ball in play well no problem but i get pretty annoyed when they swing at non strikes and make outs especially ball four on the counts dave dave demers demers cs ucsd edu computer science engineering demers cs ucsd bitnet uc san diego ucsd cs demers la jolla ca or fax
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re jose canseco s swing vs in article c r b d u ucdavis edu ez dale ucdavis edu gary man from villanueva huckabay writes it s certainly not very easy what i do is use frame advance on the tape and simply count the frames five times and try to throw out any outliers it s not perfect but it s better than a blow to the head with a large metal object ah so you finally found a use for that super slo mo and frame advance other than scrutinizing sorority babes in heat congrats i wish i had films instead of tapes preferably at fps rather than but while i m at it i d like to have ten million dollars and be able to eat anything i want and never gain any weight either trust me you d have a helluva time manipulating them besides if you converted the film to video you d have all kinds of artifacts because of the difference in frame rate unless you re an expert at doing pulldown for a laserdisc company or something gary s list of the ten slowest bats in baseball hey no fair what about fettucine alfredo griffin the guy practically has to pivot the bat around along with his body gary s list of how the hell can he hit like that julio franco phil plantier darren daulton daulton doesn t strike me as all that strange he s a little bit quiet at the plate but like franco gets the bat through the hitting zone on a level plane the first time i watched julio franco i didn t think anyone could hit like that now i marvel at how easy he makes it look every time he makes contact it s solid he s got good power to all fields and rarely is he caught not ready for a pitch i wonder if phil plantier had a severe bout with hemorrhoids and had to practice his swing while on the throne sure looks like it how bout one to add to your list travis fryman the guy plants his front foot and seems to swing across his body he generates a lot of power but i keep thinking he could generate even more if he could get a better pivot out of his hips gary s list of i d give dave kirsch s kidneys to have a swing like that well they re already spoken for by several people but i d add robbie alomar s name to the list among others i really like dean palmer s swing for some twisted reason as well as pedro munoz s swing that s all for now i m looking at derrick may s tapes tonight along with troy neel s that guy is a serious ox a thought about may it looks like they ve taught him to turn on the ball imho he s going to fall in love with his newfound power and start pulling off the ball to the point that he s going to see lots of sinkers sliders low and away unless he adjusts quickly and starts rifling doubles to left and left center imho you re going to see a good number of weak grounders to the right side of the infield in the next month dave hung like a jim acker slider kirsch blue jays do it again in kirsch staff tc umn edu new quotes out of context not to beat a dead horse but it s been a couple o weeks this disappoints me punishments discharges jackhammering stephen lawrence
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re hispanic all star team icop csa bu edu antonio pera writes hispanic magazine april had a couple of interesting articles about hispanic players including its hispanic all star team some of the major points are npr s morning edition aired a report this morning on hispanic latin american players in mlb and how they have many of the same problems faced by black negro african american players when they first entered the league however although baseball has adjusted to the presence of black players many hispanic players still labor under the stereotype of being fireballs hot blooded flashy the report also emphasised that despite the rantings my word of jessie jackson about baseballs discrimination against black players in its upper echelons baseball has actually done much better by black players than hispanic players another interesting point was the language barrier problem the reporter elaborated on an interview with ruben sierra which he gave in spanish to a spanish speaking newspaper reporter with the fact that there are maybe major baseball writers that speak spanish despite the fact that spanish is one of if not the easiest languages to learn so easy that the author cormac mccarthy learned spanish at age in order to research his book all the pretty horses yet few mlb organizations employ spanish speaking personel one of the exceptions being the oakland a s another point nearly of latin american players have some african blood yet most report that they d never really felt black until playing ball in the us ironically enough it is the early presence of latin american baseball players in the major leagues that support the idea that baseball was integrated before the arrival of jackie robinson as many light black or brown latin americans were incorporated into baseball s i did not know the cure for the disease of images but i believed in the healing sandra vigil power of words and stories vigil esca com until the end of the world
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re braves giants in article news duke edu fls keynes econ duke edu forrest smith writes cox should ve protested the game the second time the garbage got thrown at his outfielders he should also have protested the game at the point where ron gant was assessed the second strike in the ninth on the grounds that he cox was on the field and time should have been called both protests would be denied of course the umpire s judgement determines the garbage thing although i think the game should be called but that s my personal opinion doesn t matter there is time only when the ump says so the second argument is baseless dave
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re braves giants the situation with the giants bleachers is a case in point for the need for a commissioner this is true but the main thing the commish i e selig needs to do is to suspend bobby cox you cannot allow a team to come out at the ump as the braves did i usually rip umps but in this case the players were dead wrong cox should go for games if i had ever umped a game where that happened i d have ejected every player that came out only cox and gant would have been spared and then cox would have gone in the ensuing argument dave
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re hbp bb big cat in article c r tv s odin corp sgi com kubey sgi com ken kubey writes i suppose a foul ball machine like brett butler is pretty valuable but i d rather watch and root for the lower obp guys who can actually hit the ball and i d rather watch and root for a team that scores lots of runs and wins games of course i m rooting for the rockies and andres anyway but that s for irrational hometown reaons i also root for frank thomas david paschich
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re jack morris maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca roger maynard writes in apr cs cornell edu tedward cs cornell edu edward ted fischer writes in article apr newshub ariel yorku ca cs ariel yorku ca shawn luddington writes hey valentine i don t see boston with any world series rings on their fingers yah so damn morris now has three and probably the hall of fame in his future he certainly didn t earn his last one how many games did he blow in the world series all of the ones he started he certainly did earn it he was a valuable member of the blue jay team not particularly in the world series during the season he was probably more valuable than say putting olerud out there to pitch but yeah he was valuable in getting them there in the postseason he sucked dirty canal water through a straw the jays won in spite of morris much more than because of him therefore i would have to say toronto easily made the best signing oh yes definitely therefore morris is better than clemens your definition of better refers to some measurement on a scale that has nothing to do with winning ws rings umm roger return with us to those halcyon days of a few postings ago where the poster valentine was replying to used of ws rings as a measure of better the concept is called context and you should really become familiar with it someday the facts are that morris has shown us that he has what it takes to play on a ws winning club clemens hasn t unless this transaltes to clemens hasn t gone into lou gorman s office with a large caliber handgun and refused to come out until he d been traded to the jays i m at a complete loss as to any possible meaning for it you can go on about what clemens has done in the past and claim that he is better than morris if you want to but the facts are that morris has shown us that he can win and clemens hasn t what on earth does this mean over their careers clemens has won of the games he s started morris per year clemens has averaged nearly wins morris just under would you grant the proposition that preventing the other team from scoring increases your chances of winning a game if so then consider that clemens allows runs innings pitched morris allows nearly a run more per nine innings in fact jack morris has never in his career had an era for a single year as good as clemens career era but i forget in the maynardverse there was obviously some mystical significance to buckner missing that grounder in had morris been on the sox it would have been a routine groundout right whether or not clemens is better by your standard of measurement is totally meaningless the object of the game is not to compile high figures in statistics that you have chosen to feel are important the object of the game is to contribute to ws victories but this has been patiently explained to you many many times and you are either too stupid or too stubborn to grasp it speaking of stupid it has been patiently and not so patiently explained to you many times that attributing greatness to players based on the accomplishments of their teams makes about as much sense as claiming that a racecar has the most attractive paint job because it won the race your continued failure to not only understand but even to intelligently reply to any of the arguments presented leads me to the conclusion that you must have spent a few too many games in goal without a mask don t give me that shit if boston had alomar olerud henke and ward while toronto had rivera jack clark jeff reardon things would have looked a little different last fall give credit where credit is due this lavishing of praise on morris makes me sick yes and the dog would have caught the rabbit too forget about what didn t happen and open your eyes for once and look out there and see what is really happening forget about how morris shouldn t have won with an era over when morris pitched last year the jays won stop crying about it and get on with life no one is crying the jays won and as a team they certainly deserved to win at least the al east they performed well in two short series and won the world series and i congratulate them for it as a red sox fan i hope they keep morris i was happy when they picked up stewart and elated when they traded for darrin jackson you see unless you believe in some mystical link between morris and the offense you can hardly help but believe that the man was credited with so many wins last year because he got lucky luck runs out just like it did in when he pitched odd more innings than gave up exactly one earned run more than in and went seriously roger i d really like to hear your explanation of the difference between the morris and the morris which one was a better pitcher and why did morris somehow learn how to win in the intervening ten years if so then why did he go in with minnesota with an era over half a run lower than mike jones aix high end development mjones donald aix kingston ibm com don t be humble you re not that great
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re jack morris maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca roger maynard writes it sure does and it all depends on the definition that you use for better yours is based on what could have been and mine is based on what really happened well actually most of ours is based on what really happened and yours is based on some fantasy of how it happened but that s ok i understand you have a hockey background stats like plus minus make rbi look good is it viola s fault that boston had no offense is it because of morris that the blue jays had such a strong offense don t tell me that morris has this magical ability to cause the offensive players to score more runs this is the perfect example of your problem you are isolating viola s contribution from the rest of the team s efforts you can only do this if you can say for sure what the team would have done without viola only then can you compare but you cannot know how the team would have done without viola your analysis is fallacious ok how about a straigh answer then here s a very simele question to which i m sure a fair number of us are very interesed in the answer to please answer yes or no roger can a pitcher cause the offensive players on his team to score more runs al only please for anyone else following along it is a well known and demonstrable fact that a team s win loss record is closely related to the number of runs the team scores and the number the team allows it s not a definite hard and fast function but there is definitely a correlation in fact as a rule of thumb if teams a and b both score x runs and team a allows y runs for every runs fewer than y that team b allows it will win another game so for instance if we look at the toronto blue jays we find that they scored runs and allowed of which morris allowed all other things being equal if frank viola with his era had replaced jack morris for the innings morris threw plausible since viola threw for boston the red jays would have allowed about fewer runs or enough for more wins now that doesn t take into account that viola pitched half his innings in fenway which is a harder park to pitch in particularly for a lefthander than skydome so um roger unless you really do believe that a pitcher can somehow affect the number of runs his team scores could you enlighten us to the fallacy in this analysis clearly it would be foolhardy to claim that viola would necessarily have put up a if he had been on the jay last year but that is not the claim we look at what the actual performances were and evaluate viola s as better than morris in the sense that had morris performed as viola did his team would have been better off it takes an open mind to really truly understand what is happening out here in the real world guys this is true but not so open that your brain falls out mike jones aix high end development mjones donald aix kingston ibm com computer if you don t open that exit hatch this moment i shall zap straight off to your major data banks and reprogram you with a very large ax got that zaphod beeblebrox
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re so far so good the red sox ec b uhura cc rochester edu wizard writes i have posted two new postings on the net since i discovered how to use it and both times i received redicule for predicting the red sox as high as third in the al east id like to hear why it is people dont think the sox can be as high as third this year here are some of my observations well had you been a bit less exuberant in both the tone and substance of your predictions the responses would probably have been a bit more measured be that as it may roger and frank are in vintage form and the sox are rresponding to them clemens is always in this form and viola isn t really performing beyond what might reasonably have been expected how do you know that the sox are responding to them and not to al bumbry hobson or my most likely suspect new hitting coach mike easler i certainly am more likely to give easler credit for mo vaughhn s hot start than clemens or viola greenwell is hitting as he did before his injuries this was the optimistic scenario but not unreasonably so he hasn t shown much power yet though dawson is providing the leadership and some hitting they need from him how can you tell that dawson is providing the leadership perhaps it s calderon perhaps it s clemens and viola maybe hobson is finally showing those people skills he was supposed to have when they hired him or maybe it s all a myth and dawson has been hitting reasonably well but not as well as greenwell vaughn cooper or fletcher russell is finishing well in three games why don t we look at this one again in say july fletcher is hitting well as a leadoff hitter a bit better than could reasonably have been expected but don t forget that zupcic looked like wade boggs lite for about ab s last year beware of small sample sizes still if fletcher hits as well as he did last year he d be a great improvement over any sox leadoff hitter from last year be aware that his career numbers seem to indicate that he puts up good numbers as long as he doesn t have to make more than ab or so in a year cooper is hitting well i think he ll be better then boggs in the field and just as good at the plate ummm sorry no i can buy the in the field part and i think he ll be better at the plate than the boggs but in general cooper while he ll be a pretty good hitter couldn t carry boggs jockstrap with a little luck he could be the fourth or fifth best b in the al martinez boggs ventura and palmer will all be better if the sox pitch like last year they have a better pitchiong staff now and hit like they are so far they coiuld run away with thee division but since i think that their hitting and pitching may not be up to the challenge of running away with the division i think that they win be over and at least third if not second or first see here is where you make that quick left turn off into the aether is plausible third is not unlikely but phrases like could run away with the division are likely to get you a visit from the men in the white coats it s not really clear that their staff is better than last year if russell does well darwin doesn t go on the dl and hesketh doesn t pitch just barely well enough to avoid losing his spot in the rotation they could be better on the other hand if hesketh pitches miserably and they re too stupid to move him to the pen and bring up conroy or somebody fossas continues to pitch dismally but they keep giving him innings becasue he s a lefty and russell explodes they could be pretty bad mike jones aix high end development mjones donald aix kingston ibm com god is a comedian playing to an audience that is afraid to laugh mark twain
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box scores i was wondering if anyone types in the box scores each day i am at college and am not able to get them till the weekend i would be thankful if someone could p mail the twins box scores every so often also i am looking for a twins schedule kesslerm columbia dsu edu
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re phillies sign mark davis i had heard the rumors about la cin hou and sd all being interested in mark davis so it doesn t surprise me that a team had to give up something and cash to actually get him lynch mob ps anyone else draft this guy i really did and got a loud cry of when will you ever give up on this guy
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re rockies spoon feed game to mets is it just me or does bichette look totally lost in the outfield he misplayed martinez fly out into a double against the expos misplayed alou s single into a triple alou tagged out at rd after over sliding the bag and now he misplays another out into a run triple add in his wonderful batting average and we have one heck of a player don boell
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rockies two more errors more walks name pos ab h b b hr rbi rs sb e avg boston of galarraga b tatum b cole cf e young b hayes b murphy of bichette rf clark lf girardi c castilla ss benavides ss g young of pitchers p totals name l r ip h r er k bb era w l s wayne l aldred l smith r ashby r neid r parrett r blair r henry l ruffin l reed r holmes r totals
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re torre the worst manager in article hydra gatech edu gt a prism gatech edu brian r landmann writes later in the ninth inning with the bases loaded and two outs he puts lankford a hitter with power in as a pinch runner and uses luis alicea a hitter with no power as a pinch hitter what the hell is he thinking didn t alicea get a hit though see y all at the ballyard go braves chop chop michael mule michael andre mule georgia institute of technology atlanta georgia uucp decvax hplabs ncar purdue rutgers gatech prism gt e internet gt e prism gatech edu
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re wfan in article c jc z knd news udel edu philly ravel udel edu robert c hite writes from philly ravel udel edu robert c hite subject re wfan date thu apr gmt in article apr virginia edu jja h virginia edu writes does any one out there listen to wfan for those of you who do not know what i am talking about it is an all sports radio staion in new york on a clear night the signal reaches up and down the east coast in particular i want to know how len berman and mike lupica s show is i go to school in virginia so i can t listen when there are on during the day just wondering the fan is an okay sports radio station but doesn t come close to the ultimate in sports radio wip in philadelphia the signal might not be as powerful but then again only stations in new york feel obligated to pollute everyone else s airwaves with a bunch of hoodlum mets fans complaining hours a day wip took two of your best sports jockeys too jody macdonald and steve fredericks wip is rockin with sports talk from am till midnight check it out anytime your within a few hours of philadelphia if i m not mistaken wip has the highest sports talk ratings in the nation i m from dallas and you have alot of nerve saying that wfan has a bunch of hoodlum mets fans during the football season the local cowboy station here had the wip on several times for simultanious broadcasts i have never heard a bigger bunch of low intellect bed wetting obnoxious woofing cranial deformed assholes in my entire life the iq of the average eagles fan must be in the range at best and they have been known to be big droolers please no flames let s see if it works for me bob kevin p kerr kkerr mkcase dseg ti com s a b r member since go yankees go dolphins strolling through cyberspace sniffing the electric wind
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re phils nl east not so weak that s very true i live in richmond home of the aaa richmond braves and they have this guy ryan klesko who hit hr s at home last year now that doesn t sound like a whole lot but the way the diamond is built home runs are a rarity in fact ron gant brian hunter and david justice all proved they could hit in richmond when they were sent to the majors they never came back if you can hit in richmond you can hit anywhere so far after beating scranton phillies in the first game the best team in aaa history has been rather underwhelming too many expectations i guess
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re fenway gif in article c jb d nt umassd edu acsddc smucs umassd edu writes i was wondering if anyone had any kind of fenway park gif i would appreciate it if someone could send me one thanks in advance dan me too and any yankee stadium gifs as well please thanx in advance mike feszczyszyn
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re rbi s was notes on jays indians in article apr news acns nwu edu edo casbah acns nwu edu edward ouellette writes me too rbi are a worthless stat of course so is stolen bases because sometimes runners are in front of a player that would otherwise run and of course pitchers pitch differently with different people on different bases so batting average slugging and obp out too hmmm i guess homers would not count then either my point rbi might not be a perfect stat but nothing is and no stat or lack of can tell me there are no clutch hitters maybe no stat can tell me either but some people are i just know it but why would you want to use rbi rbi is an attempt to measure is some combination of clutch hitting and power hitting if you believe in clutch hitting then look at how the guy hit with risp if you want to see how good of a slugger he is then look at his slugging average in terms of evaluating players rbi totals are better than nothing but why use them when so many better stats are out there david frohardt lane dfl math wayne edu go tigers lions pistons red wings and wolverines
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re mcrae is re torre the worst manager scott mccall com scott d davis writes kc news was doing a report on that they said that mcrae is really a batting coach and not a manager but for some reason he took the job whatever the reason the royals need a new manager now while it is too late and have jesse jackson picket the stadium tim evans e i du pont de nemours co tkevans eplrx es dupont com experimental station p o box evanstk at a at esvax wilmington delaware
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re royals randall informix com randall rhea writes the royals are darkness they are the void of our time when they play shame descends upon the land like a cold front from canada they are a humiliation to all who have lived and all who shall ever live they are utterly and completely doomed other than that i guess they re ok you must not be old enough to remember the a s in kc tim evans e i du pont de nemours co tkevans eplrx es dupont com experimental station p o box evanstk at a at esvax wilmington delaware
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al stats i am looking for a source of american league baseball stats for individual players in the same format as printed in newspapers ie i do not want to provide a list of players and get back nice printed reports for a week does anyone know of such statistics availability and an idea of the cost canada remote systems toronto ontario
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re proposed catcher re sub rule the red sox usually have catchers i don t think they have a backup now but they used to use randy kutcher as a backup catcher as well as a middle infielder and outfielder you don t need a good rd catcher just a competent one so you can afford to lose a little catching ability and pick a player who can be of use elsewhere on the field john carr jfc athena mit edu
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re millitello update in article apr alleg edu millits yankee org sam millitello says uhhhh i think i spelled my name correctly sam millitello uhhhh there are only three l s bob vesterman
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re yankees win home opener in article apr alleg edu millits yankee org sam millitello says i m telling you sam three l s call up mom and ask bob vesterman
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re phillies sweep reds awful reds report in article c ialu jn usenet ucs indiana edu rstimets silver ucs indiana edu robert and stimets writes actually i m not sure that philly won but they were ahead in the bottom of the eighth i was going to post the box score but since cinci was playing so criminally bad the pub i was at had to turn the game off so here s what s up cincinnati had seven hits all singles by the end of the eighth this makes it six games with exactly one extra base hit cincinnati was with runners in scoring position now if a team is going to be completely without power they absolutely have to hit in clutch situations cincinnati starter tom browning pitched innings giving up runs and h its while striking out he was surely the loser tonight reds starters while supposedly solid have won only one game this year of course the reds have only won two clean up batter sabo went besides yesterday s homer he s sucked at the plate dibble may not actually return friday this may not mean anything since cinci may not find themselves in a save situation for a while speaking of which the reds have ha exactly one lead this week for one and a half innings after chris dinger on tuesday manager tony perez says the reds are just not swinging the bat well right now good call doggie well there s a big difference between just not swinging the bat well and what the reds are doing at the plate uuuggghhhh a reds fan on the verge of a nervous breakdown mike why is it that the prognosis on kevin mitchell is out days no matter what day you read it gary burbank i ve told you before and i ll tell you again the strong survive and the weak disappear we do not intend to disappear jimmy hoffa mtissand magnus acs ohio state edu cynically yours rstimets
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re wfan i hope that this comes off as a somewhat unbiased assesment of wfan and wip i go to school in philadelphia and i listen to both stations on a consistant basis now that the fan has mike lupica on from to noon they have a person who can get the big name guests for interviews and not just of local importance he did have dave cheketts and fred wilpon on his show but he had bob costas and magic johnson on too now here are my opinions of the two stations competing talent morning show in my opinion i think imus is much better than bruno cataldi and morganti even though i would feel different if morganti had a better crew of people to work with to me wip tries to copy imus but make it all sports as a theme in terms of sports imus lacks the blanketing of the airwaves but he interjects humor and politics into his show am to noon i think chuck cooperstein and lupica are equal in their abilities to host a radio show but i think chuck has the advantage over lupica in terms of dealing with the caller who is asking about who the local team is going to draft in the sixth round lupica and the other hosts on fan get better interview guests but i heard the pd of wip say that they were not interested in interviews with celebrities unless it was a major story i would consider this even because they are two different styles of host noon to pm at this point i would have to give a big advantage to jody mcdonald over len berman because lenny has only been on for a couple of weeks i just think jm has the ability to transcend the homer mentality of the philadelphia fan base this is most evident when the iggles philadelphia spelling play the cowboys because jm is a huge dallas fan where else can you have people call up and predict a score without the egging of the hosts re wip morning guys i do agree that jm was great on the fan weekend overnight and i miss hearing him over the current crop of rotating hosts i feel that jm is the best sportstalk host on either station by a good margin if you are in ny and you can t get wip jm does fill in on the weekends sometimes pm to pm this is the time when jm goes up against francesa and russo fatso and froot loops and i become the most divided in my loyalties mike and the dog are very entertaining but they often go an hour or so without calls or even to minutes without talking about sports matd do get great guests and that is the basis for their show so it is like the to debate another plus is the appearances by mike and chris on imus in the morning which are often hilarious pm to pm matd go up against fredericks and missanelli i like mike missanelli but i just can t stomach steve fredericks i know that sf came from philly originally but when he was at the fan he was a ny homer as much as he is a philly homer now i don t listen to wip much after pm unless there is a game on that night but you will see later for the reason that is why i give the advantage to fan pm to midnight s m are on wip until and then it is the man who makes eli that calls matd all the time seem like a novice on charges of racism g cobb this man is so grating on my nerves that if i listen to him for a few minutes i go nuts i know that is biased but listen to his show on fan there is usually a game on knicks rangers mets jets or st john s basketball if the game is on the west coast then it is usually howie rose of course i think dead air would be better than g cobb on wip but wip does air sixers and flyers games during the season if this is the sports station why did they lose the iggles to wysp home of howard stern in phil during the summer it is all talk on wip overall i would have to give the advantage to wfan with the exception of to and to where it is even and to where wip has the advantage rich you ve read the hat now see the movie imus in the morning a blurb you re a blurb seinfeld
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question about candlestick i have tickets for the tb giants and i was wondering if anybody familiar with the stadium could tell me where section in the lower level is located please e mail the response thanks rich you ve read the hat now see the movie imus in the morning a blurb you re a blurb seinfeld
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re astros for real in article apr ccsvax sfasu edu z millerwl ccsvax sfasu edu writes who thinks the astros are going places they re currently first place they re on the road i agree lumberjack except that they re in nd they are going places san diego los angeles san francisco cincinnati denver atlanta miami philadelphia new york montreal pittsburgh chicago st louis and points in between but they re at home i m just not used to an overly enthusiastic houston fan i really shouldn t discourage it so hang in there lumberjack but get ahold of that shift key will ya obbase apparently the new owner drayton mclain sp doesn t particularly like excuses an item in our paper the austin american statesman if you read it here it was somewhere else first said that he wouldn t take injuries as an excuse for losing because that possibility should have been accounted for uh oh i don t want an owner that ll keep everybody on edge i d never gotten that feeling about him but who knows does anybody down there in the houston area have a feel for how meddling of an owner mclain is going to be marc stephenson ibm aws advanced workstations systems austin tx disclaimer the content of this posting is independent of official ibm position internet marc austin ibm com vnet marc at ausvmq ibm t l
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re defensive averages third base dale stephenson steph cs uiuc edu wrote in c jjrj em cs uiuc edu steph cs uiuc edu dale stephenson writes compiled from the last five defensive average reports here are the career das for the individual players in the reports stats are courtesy of sherri nichols players are listed in descending order and some comments with some players deleted third basemen leius scott looks good too bad he s moving to short pagliarulo mike this is an interesting line his figure was slightly below average his was pathetic and his was the next best year by anybody part of that may be his mobility was with the yankees was with the padres who appear to have a rotten infield was with the twins and judging by leius and gaetti the metrodome may be a good place to play third gaetti gary apologies if i don t know what i m talking about but as a twins fan i like to think they have good players in any park not sure if i remember completely or not but i think gaetti played with the twins in for the world series and again in note that s his lowest of the i believe the next or at least the last two were played with the angels lots of factors make a player excell i hate it when so many use the dome it may not be ideal but nice to comfortably enjoy baseball and football even when it s snowing and raining craig i m sure the company for which i work does not have all the same opinions that i do
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re phils nl east not so weak in apr guvax acc georgetown edu apanjabi guvax acc georgetown edu writes i love it how all of these people are blaming the phillies success on a weak division why don t we look at the record of the teams in each division read inter divisional play we ll see that the east is really kicking the shit out of the west i know it is early but that is all we have to go on atlanta is just so strong with their ba cincinnati is coming off a sweep at veteran s stadium in philadelphia and houston was swept in it s first three games by the phillies in the astrodome that my western division friends shows that the three best teams in your division may not be as strong as you think or you may be posting this way too early and be eating your words by mid season c mon the phillies haven t proved anything yet atlanta was similar to the phils years ago they sucked they started having a good year but didn t get any respect until they actually won the division which is how it should be so until the phils at least have a good year not just a good weeks they won t get any respect either btw atlanta s ba is actually a compliment to how good the braves really are their record is can you imagine the phils record if they were batting hahahaha and atlanta s hitting will improve dramatically no i m not a braves fan just defending a good team orin bradley u phils all the way in braves hit like a aaa club reds need marge bob i m really a jester in disguise
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re red sox lead after in article c zra n ulowell ulowell edu stwombly cs ulowell edu steve twombly writes the boston red sox lead the kc royals after innings the sox are the only undefeated team in the al east after days go jump in the lake you non believers steve as i have read this net the last few days i am continually amazed at the pronouncements of baseball prowess by many individuals especially when it comes down to saying that the bosox haven t a prayer as a long time red sox fan i will simply say the impossible dream year for those of you with short memories short lives or both to be a red sox fan is to continually be the subject of abuse and criticism from those who only follow the hot team this statement is supported based on the increased number of brave woofers out on the net a true fan of a team any team will follow that team through the good years as well as the lean years and be amply rewarded when the time is right yeah so what if buckner let a roller go through his legs in who cares if clemens told cooley to go piss up a rope and promptly earned a quick shower the fact is they were one of the best teams in the league those years and the fans supported them now that it appears that they are on lean times the number of detracters come from all over so what let them play and we will see what happens come september the red sox may not be that good but they are certainly not that bad either and they do have a chance to win the world series after all remember the mets who would have given them a chance to even make it that far let alone beat baltimore let s face it baseball is a wonderful game and is far more unpredictable than football and basketball because of this one can never say with absolute certainity what the outcome will be over the course of games joec godot cyprs rain com warning elvis impersonating can be hazardous joec ursula ee pdx edu to your health it sure won t help your reputation i bike therefore i am go red sox go celtics go seahawks go sonics
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rbi risp and slg off and on over the last several months threads about rbis and related topics have gotten me to thinking about how well we can predict a player s rbis using information about his overall performance and the number of runners in scoring position risp that he bats with in the brock model bill james calculated predicted rbis as rbi total bases home runs this completely ignores the context which was all that brock could do since context was unknown to it so i thought i d take that idea as a starting point and look how good a fit to the data you get by comparing rbi home runs to slg risp i ve started with team data using data from the elias s that i ve picked up over the years when a i could afford them and b i could stomach the thought of increasing elias s profits that gave me the years and i don t have team rbis for or i could add that year if you run a simple least squares fit to the data you get rbi home runs slg risp the correlation between the lhs and the rhs is which is significant at a ridiculously high level so i feel like the fit is good at the team level i ve no started to move on to the player level and have looked at players will clark ozzie smith joe carter and don mattingly i hope to add quite a few more during my copious free time this year it doesn t do too badly except the equation underpredicts the low hr hitter smith which may be a fault of the model or it could just be ozzie the results rbi hr years actual predicted carter clark matt ly smith i think we can make a case and i hope to make it stronger that rbis can be predicted simply from knowing how a player slugs overall and how many men are in scoring position when he comes up more later harold harold brooks hbrooks uiatma atmos uiuc edu national severe storms laboratory norman ok i used to work for a brewery too but i didn t drink on the job p bavasi on dal maxvill s view that florida can win the nl east in
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re dave kingman for the hall of fame in article mssc k w gqe netcom com mss netcom com mark singer writes i m no kingman fan just thought i d point out that he s the only player in history to have five three hr games joe carter has four eddie murray three mccovey and gehrig also three ruth mays foxx and dawson two each didn t mike schmidt also do this at least three times i can remember twice in wrigley field alone he did it the same day kong did it in a shootout and he swatted four there one day in april the month he set the april record with hr s anybody remember any of this i was just a kid
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re jewish baseball players i think you can add former a s first baseman mike epstein no relation to the list ari
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mlb standings and scores for fri apr th mlb standings and scores for friday april th including yesterday s games national west won lost pct gb last streak home road san francisco giants won houston astros lost atlanta braves lost colorado rockies won los angeles dodgers lost san diego padres lost cincinnati reds lost national east philadelphia phillies won pittsburgh pirates won st louis cardinals won new york mets lost chicago cubs won montreal expos won florida marlins won american west won lost pct gb last streak home road texas rangers lost california angels won chicago white sox won minnesota twins lost oakland athletics lost seattle mariners lost kansas city royals won american east boston red sox won toronto blue jays won new york yankees lost detroit tigers won cleveland indians lost milwaukee brewers lost baltimore orioles won yesterday s scores idle teams listed in alphabetical order national league american league houston astros seattle mariners montreal expos toronto blue jays new york mets oakland athletics colorado rockies detroit tigers pittsburgh pirates kansas city royals san diego padres new york yankees st louis cardinals cleveland indians los angeles dodgers boston red sox atlanta braves california angels ppd san francisco giants milwaukee brewers rain chicago cubs idle baltimore orioles idle cincinnati reds idle chicago white sox idle florida marlins idle minnesota twins idle philadelphia philliesidle texas rangers idle joseph hernandez rams lakers jtchern ocf berkeley edu kings dodgers raiders jtcent soda berkeley edu angels clippers
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cards sweep la mets lose life is good just a few lines about my favorite team sweeping the dodgers one of my least favorite in la sweet also the mets my other least favorite team loss to the rockies made this this a great day and a great start to the weekend as the cardinals are on the espn tonight big lee smith is having a great start and the cardinals seem to be hitting in the clutch even though they have had a few games with lots of hits and not many runs hopefully with the coaches stress on situational hitting in spring training the runners lob will be lower this year probably due to the high strikeout numbers by jose and lankford and zeile s off year i don t know why all the fuss about the fillies the media and all the filly fans on r s b forget who is right behind them in the standings give the wild thing a week or two before he starts blowing some games and we ll see who is in first then i believe the cardinal pitching staff is more complete than the filly staff and that will make the difference on a side note a few years ago a comment was made by some baseball player or manager about the dodger defense he was asked where to hit the ball against the dodgers and he replied fair i remember it being in the they said it section of sports illustrated i would like to know who said it and what issue it was in go redbirds gary wieman
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re tiger stadium gif i hate to be rude but screw the seating chart post the stadium instead the logistician reigns supreme go blue go tigers go pistons go lions go red wings ching wpi wpi edu
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re notes on jays vs indians series in article apr midway uchicago edu thf midway uchicago edu writes in article rudyc fxc deu netcom com rudy netcom com rudy wade writes in article apr csd newshost stanford edu nlu xenon stanford edu nelson lu writes guess which line is which ba obp slg ab h b b hr bb x y the walks should give it away obp s in general somewhat more valuable than slugging and alomar s edge in obp was quite a bit larger than baerga s edge in slugging i m no sdcn but what s more valuable hits w more doubles more hrs or more triples and bbs let s not forget the extra sbs how many cs alomar had cs baerga had don t forget the more outs baerga had his gidp balances out his cs and he had one more sacrifice than alomar a replacement level second baseman could have had hits walks and a couple of xbh for the additional outs baerga had a triple is little different than a home run we re talking exchanging almost walks for six or seven home runs and four doubles i would say the almost walks are more valuable also alomar got a far greater boost from his home park than baerga did from his and six or seven home runs hmm so if you wanted to pick a second baseman to play in toronto you d take alomar anywhere else and you d probably take baerga mike disclaimer these opiini h h damn h h q w q wq wq d x exit x q c quitbye ctrlaltdel q q logout save quit quit zz zzzzzz vi man vi l c e x i t help helpquit d d man help c c e help exit quit q ctrlshftdel hey what does stop l a d
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re mlb standings and scores for fri apr th in article qmj h m h agate berkeley edu jtchern ocf berkeley edu joseph hernandez writes houston astros seattle mariners montreal expos toronto blue jays new york mets oakland athletics colorado rockies detroit tigers pittsburgh pirates kansas city royals san diego padres new york yankees st louis cardinals cleveland indians los angeles dodgers boston red sox atlanta braves california angels ppd san francisco giants milwaukee brewers rain this leads me to believe that it s not really a rabbitball year and that we ve just had a rash of high scoring games i bet this one day s worth of games pulled everything back to close to average interesting because the other day all but three games had ten or more runs scored and yesterday no game had more than nine ted frank thf kimbark uchicago edu i m sorry the card says moops the u of c law school standard disclaimers
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re young catchers in article qlnkninn sh aludra usc edu sheehan aludra usc edu joseph sheehan writes most of the points you made about lopez v berryhill olson have been made by others and realizing that lopez must be the second coming of frank thomas i have relented and praised the unmistakeable wisdom of his supporters nope they re baseball management possible the most short sighted collection of people in the nation do you not believe this goes on mark do you think frank thomas needed those three months in aaa in see this is essentially what everyone was doing comparing lopez to one of the best players in the game i m really looking forward to seeing this can t miss superstar now as for thomas i remember being an advocate of his being brought up in even though he was only or can t remember but who did the sox have at first calderon martinez kittle the spot was there the talent was there sure i say go for it i am not convinced that lopez is anywhere near as talented as thomas was after his aa season in and i am not convinced that olson berryhill are nearly as bad as kittle martinez were btw i don t think thomas was hurt by those three months or cal eldred wasn t really better than ricky bones last year well if we can t compare our guy to one of the best in the game let s compare our decision to one of the most boneshead right cal eldred was when he came up with a full season at aaa and a longer minor league career frankly i don t know why he didn t make the club in bones is a year younger with a lousy prior history and just watching him makes me think that i missed a career as a big league pitcher no one i repeat no one laughed louder than i did at the sheffield trade though i guess mieske has a future i take it back mcilvaine may have laughed louder you re mostly polite make defensible if flawed cases have wit and have in the past admitted being wrong that does qualify you on r s b we ll make an sdcn out of you yet aw gee shucks thanks guy except i missed the part where sdcn s admit they re wrong the beastmaster mark singer mss netcom com
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re early bbddd returns in article apr news cs brandeis edu st pip cc brandeis edu writes just curious if anyone has started to standout early in the season in the bb ddd this year the tater that jack morris served to griffey the younger in his first at bat this year went feet if i remember right i ll have to check my scorecard at home i think that s the longest so far in the kingdome through the first stand five games there a weak showing despite some promising taterball candidates ben mcdonald rich delucia and the rest of the mariner bullpen making appearances anyone have the tape measure value for omar vizquel s grand slam in the skydome jeff brown big enchilada of the brown bag lunches astronomy dept jbrown u washington edu u of washington jbrown phast phys washington edu
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re tigers all i can say is g o t i g e r s the logistician reigns supreme go blue go tigers go pistons go lions go red wings ching wpi wpi edu
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re notes on jays vs indians series in article c f rj bj ncoast org actuary ncoast org steven m goldman writes so who will start this year s all star game for the al probably alomar not to put him down he s a great player but it helps to have all the recognition he s had plus to play in a city which is likely to pour in the votes i like alomar but i d like to differ with your opinion about a city which is likely to pour in the votes i attended many games last year during the balloting i know that a great number of the attendees did not fill out their ballots but left them beer soaked and torn on the floor of the stands toronto gets no more and no less votes than any other city for the all star game unfortunately this is not a one time thing i ve attended games during the last four seasons and it has happened every time the apathetic attitude to all star ballots really offends me ljs
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bonilla bobby bonilla supposedly use the word faggot when he got mad at that author in the clubhouse should he be banned from baseball for a year like schott
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re torre the worst manager dak s vma smsu edu said no hal mcrae is the worst manager in baseball i ve never seen a guy who can waste talent like he can one of the best raw talent staffs in the league and he s still finding a way to lose i ll be surprised if he makes it through the next weeks unless drastic improvement is made i m confused how is it hal mcrae s fault that he can t win with a team whose best offensive player is phil hiatt i mean let s be real kansas city will have to get outstanding years from their entire staff just to end up near they have less offense than any other team in baseball even if you count the expansion teams david m tate dtate pitt edu greetings sir with bat not quick member iie orsa tims sabr hands not soft eye not discerning and in denver they call you a slugger the big catullus galarraga and compare you to my own mattingly
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re braves pitching updatedir in article blue cis pitt edu traven pitt edu neal traven writes one of the chapters in palmer and thorn s hidden game is titled pitching is of baseball implying that fielding is how do they determine that beats me it s been a long long time since i read it this was my opinion the stupidest thing in the hidden game the argument was defense or runs allowed is of the game unearned runs amount to of the runs allowed earned runs since unearned runs are the result of fielding not pitching and earned runs are the product of pitching not fielding fielding is of defense and pitching is of defense caombining with pitching is of the game fielding pete is usually sharper than that my own feel is that fielding is in the of defense range call it between fielding and pitching one also has to separate offense into batting and baserunning with the split probably somewhere around and i d give baserunning a little more credit than that maybe or even give a team of roberto alomar and a team of john oleruds identical batting stats which wouldn t be that unreasonable and even if you don t let roberto steal a single base they ll score a lot more than the oleruds by going first to third more often no offense gordon clay d
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re best homeruns i d have to say the most impressive hrs i ve ever see came from dave kingman and his infamous moon raker drives don boell
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re best sportwriters in article c k nk tv news cso uiuc edu rkoffler ux cso uiuc edu bighelmet writes csc imd cabell vcu edu ian m derby writes since someone brought up sports radio howabout sportswriting i happen to be a big fan of jayson stark he is a baseball writer for the philadelphia inquirer every tuesday he writes a week in review column he writes about unusual situations that occured during the week unusual stats he has a section called kinerisms of the week which are stupid lines by mets brodcaster ralph kiner every year he has the lgtgah contest that stands for last guy to get a hit he also writes for baseball america that column is sort of a highlights of week in review if you can check his column out sometime he might make you laugh rob koffler isn t stark that idiot who writes in baseball america twice a month he writes a who woulda thunk it article which is really the same piece every time who would have thought that buddy biancalana would have more home runs than the colorado rockies babe ruth omar vizquel and nolan ryan combined he s an idiot if it s the same guy you live day to day and rkoffler ux cso uiuc edu dream about tomorrow don henley andrew
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re jewish baseball players in article apr lafibm lafayette edu vb lafibm lafayette edu vb writes just wondering a friend and i were talking the other day and we were for some reason trying to come up with names of jewish maybe john lowenstein lowenstein is not jewish however there is a long list including hank greenberg moe berg rod carew a convert the sherry brothers art shamsky and ron blomberg barry
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re phills vs pirates as a philly fan as as a penna baseball fan i m anxious to see the penna series anyone know when it starts and where the first games will be played this is i think always good baseball to me and the pirates are also off to a good start ed doc
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world series stats does anybody else think that ws stats should become part of a player s career stats why not
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re jewish baseball players once on jeopardy the category was jewish sports heros believe it or not the answer was this pitcher had four no hitters with the dodgers in the s the contestant said who is hank aaron alex trebek said something like i don t think hank aaron was a pitcher david fry fry math harvard edu division of applied sciences fry huma bitnet harvard university harvard huma fry cambridge ma
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ind source picks baerga over alomar case closed fester island com mike fester writes i d say you could make a good for them being about equal right now t p rated baerga higher actually mike finally an objective source alomar s a great player but so is baerga nice to see the objective source cited rather than my dad s bigger than your dad posts bk
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re best homeruns on two separate occasions i saw dick allen back when he was richie homer at shea off the middle of the black centerfield hitter s background screen i think both shots would have traveled feet jay
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re why spanky boone psc edu jon boone writes on mon apr gmt in apr mnemosyne cs du edu greg spira gspira nyx cs du edu wrote does anybody in the pittsburgh area know why mike lavalliere was released last year i kept saying that slaught should get the bulk of the playing time that he was clearly the better player at this point but leyland insisted on keeping a pretty strict platoon and now he is released that doesn t make any sense to me greg the story goes like this spanky is too slow if he were quicker he would still be here but with slaught and tom prince they didn t want to lose prince in order to bring up that th pitcher slaught is about as good as spanky and prince is coming along nicely well my question still hasn t been answered if spanky was bad enough to release this year why did he get so much playing time last year yes i know he was part of a platoon and that s why he got more playing time than slaught but that doesn t answer the question if slaught was so obviously better this year wasn t this also obvious last year and shouldn t he have been taking away some of spanky s playing time against righties greg
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when is melido due back when are the yankees planning on activating melido perez his days on the dl are up today but are they bringing him back this weekend thanks for any info