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fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
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When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcwuxe
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flcb7ma
| 1,585,049,700 | 1,585,024,960 | 13 | 9 |
As others have said, you need to be doing art for the right reasons. There will always be someone better than you and there will always be someone worse. As such, you can't compare yourself to others otherwise you will spiral into a pit of self loathing. You also can't expect others to be able to give you the answers. I can't tell you the literal steps I took to get to the point where I could draw ok, it just happened after years and years of just drawing really shitty stuff that I enjoyed drawing. All I can say is yes do the exercises but draw from life and what's around you, draw what you like and don't wait on people to give you feedback before you have another go. If drawing is something you enjoy, then do it.
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I know that feel. My personal philosophy is that every crappy drawing I do gets me closer to a good drawing. You may want to adjust your mindset when it comes to doing art because we all know motivation is a real problem for artists. I recommend a book called The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. It helped me immensely by putting things in perspective and setting tangible goals for my art.
| 1 | 24,740 | 1.444444 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcwuxe
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flclquk
| 1,585,049,700 | 1,585,035,999 | 13 | 10 |
As others have said, you need to be doing art for the right reasons. There will always be someone better than you and there will always be someone worse. As such, you can't compare yourself to others otherwise you will spiral into a pit of self loathing. You also can't expect others to be able to give you the answers. I can't tell you the literal steps I took to get to the point where I could draw ok, it just happened after years and years of just drawing really shitty stuff that I enjoyed drawing. All I can say is yes do the exercises but draw from life and what's around you, draw what you like and don't wait on people to give you feedback before you have another go. If drawing is something you enjoy, then do it.
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Maybe thats just not the way your brain learnes. You could try to just draw from life or something.
| 1 | 13,701 | 1.3 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcwuxe
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flcptwf
| 1,585,049,700 | 1,585,041,213 | 13 | 5 |
As others have said, you need to be doing art for the right reasons. There will always be someone better than you and there will always be someone worse. As such, you can't compare yourself to others otherwise you will spiral into a pit of self loathing. You also can't expect others to be able to give you the answers. I can't tell you the literal steps I took to get to the point where I could draw ok, it just happened after years and years of just drawing really shitty stuff that I enjoyed drawing. All I can say is yes do the exercises but draw from life and what's around you, draw what you like and don't wait on people to give you feedback before you have another go. If drawing is something you enjoy, then do it.
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Have you tried taking lessons? Serious question. I used to have problem also with tutorial until I started taking lessons.
| 1 | 8,487 | 2.6 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcwuxe
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flca3mj
| 1,585,049,700 | 1,585,024,019 | 13 | 5 |
As others have said, you need to be doing art for the right reasons. There will always be someone better than you and there will always be someone worse. As such, you can't compare yourself to others otherwise you will spiral into a pit of self loathing. You also can't expect others to be able to give you the answers. I can't tell you the literal steps I took to get to the point where I could draw ok, it just happened after years and years of just drawing really shitty stuff that I enjoyed drawing. All I can say is yes do the exercises but draw from life and what's around you, draw what you like and don't wait on people to give you feedback before you have another go. If drawing is something you enjoy, then do it.
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Uhm. It's gotta depend on what your goals are. Then plan milestones within that same goal. If you want, we can chat on Google Hangout, and we can figure it out. I have a bit of extra time now. Message me if you're interested. But yeah, it always comes down to clearly defined goals.
| 1 | 25,681 | 2.6 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcwuxe
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flcp9br
| 1,585,049,700 | 1,585,040,468 | 13 | 5 |
As others have said, you need to be doing art for the right reasons. There will always be someone better than you and there will always be someone worse. As such, you can't compare yourself to others otherwise you will spiral into a pit of self loathing. You also can't expect others to be able to give you the answers. I can't tell you the literal steps I took to get to the point where I could draw ok, it just happened after years and years of just drawing really shitty stuff that I enjoyed drawing. All I can say is yes do the exercises but draw from life and what's around you, draw what you like and don't wait on people to give you feedback before you have another go. If drawing is something you enjoy, then do it.
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Sometimes when I went further, id do poorly in one area and decide to go back through some sections, do it again, try to think more about it, and I found it helped a good bit. Getting frustrated that "its wrong" is natural, but its important to ask *why* and *where* its wrong, its important to think through things with drawing. Sometimes it also helps to change to a different subject/method in general. These aren't just skills you practice and master in one go, you build, build, and build them.
| 1 | 9,232 | 2.6 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcwuxe
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flbwi8b
| 1,585,049,700 | 1,585,014,235 | 13 | 4 |
As others have said, you need to be doing art for the right reasons. There will always be someone better than you and there will always be someone worse. As such, you can't compare yourself to others otherwise you will spiral into a pit of self loathing. You also can't expect others to be able to give you the answers. I can't tell you the literal steps I took to get to the point where I could draw ok, it just happened after years and years of just drawing really shitty stuff that I enjoyed drawing. All I can say is yes do the exercises but draw from life and what's around you, draw what you like and don't wait on people to give you feedback before you have another go. If drawing is something you enjoy, then do it.
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Hm... I have to think about that. I am sorry you experience it like this. Would it help if I say that I struggle, too? I still everything everyone else does is so much better. I only started with the lessons but they are hard... You know what I think? Either you are trying to hard and you need to change the way you see things or you haven't found the right medium or style, yet. Maybe you are also not able to see little improvements.. I don't know you. For me I am still at the boxes and man those are hard. Rough perspective O.O what? But hey I hit the vanishing point twice just twice in the exercise. But there were small improvements. I somehow fail to believe that someone who practises their drawing does not at least in some way improve. I wish I could look at your progress and tell you that but maybe someone who has done those lessons can help you out better. Don't be discouraged. Do the exercises but try something else. If you have never done painting - give it a try. A different technique/approach might feel like a refreshment.
| 1 | 35,465 | 3.25 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flchogu
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flcl9gh
| 1,585,031,260 | 1,585,035,409 | 10 | 12 |
I tried to do drawabox a while ago. (Using a different account than this) Sitting around doing nothing all day was starting to feel mind numbing and I felt like putting that empty time towards a skill would be worth my while. The site seems amazingly well done and I’m impressed by what the creator has accomplished and the community feedback. However, it took me multiple hours to get through one page of practice activities, and therefore multiple months to make very little progress over all. As awful as it felt to sit and stare at a wall all day, doing the activities felt even worse. As I sat there my brain turned to mushy static, my breathing became uneven, my vision got blurry and my body would start to vibrate. I wondered if the payoff at the end would eventually be worth it. I imagined myself being able to produce great art pieces but having years of THAT behind me, and continuing to do so for many more years (as they say, art is something you must constantly practice and improve on). Though, I don’t really think that this is something specific to art-I have run into the same problem when practicing any skill. Attempting to learn an instrument, to write, to do physical things with my body, etc. When I picture the payoff at the end (having whichever skill) and I compare it to the cost (which is generally gonna be experiencing THAT on a frequent and constant basis to both build, upkeep, and improve the skill), the cost seems disproportionate to the payoff. I guess that’s what I would consider the main thing to think about. Picture yourself as a highly proficient artist one day, then picture the cost to you to get there. Is the cost worth the payoff?
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I quit after the second boxes homework and started to do plant studies. While the courses are incredibly informative, I feel like there’s just too much stuff to grasp at once as another beginner myself. And way too much work on top of that. It took 40 minutes to finish one of the box homeworks and I was just done. (I do understand why he has the work and exercises set up like this, but they’re just not fun and are grueling to get through) There’s nothing wrong with Drawabox not being right for you, but I hope you don’t give up drawing. At the end of the day though, sketching, and art in general, is supposed to be fun. A major pitfall I saw with myself is I would compare my progress with that of my other art friends and would pressure myself to rush and get better myself all at once and then beat myself up when it came out looking wrong or just in a way I like. Though, I’ve since noticed everybody has a different journey with art, and with different paces of progress. And there’s nothing wrong with that. I found it helpful to take a step back from formal lessons and reading about how I can get better, to just saying screw it and drawing what I wanted to instead. Try to find something that you like to sketch. Maybe it’s random, different things or something that’s piqued your interest, or something you found in real life. And then try replicate it on your pad. Slowly but surely you’ll find yourself getting better and better at art and drawing! I personally found it helpful to make a little streak for yourself and see how many days you can go by drawing at least one thing a day!
| 0 | 4,149 | 1.2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcl9gh
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flc9pzn
| 1,585,035,409 | 1,585,023,707 | 12 | 9 |
I quit after the second boxes homework and started to do plant studies. While the courses are incredibly informative, I feel like there’s just too much stuff to grasp at once as another beginner myself. And way too much work on top of that. It took 40 minutes to finish one of the box homeworks and I was just done. (I do understand why he has the work and exercises set up like this, but they’re just not fun and are grueling to get through) There’s nothing wrong with Drawabox not being right for you, but I hope you don’t give up drawing. At the end of the day though, sketching, and art in general, is supposed to be fun. A major pitfall I saw with myself is I would compare my progress with that of my other art friends and would pressure myself to rush and get better myself all at once and then beat myself up when it came out looking wrong or just in a way I like. Though, I’ve since noticed everybody has a different journey with art, and with different paces of progress. And there’s nothing wrong with that. I found it helpful to take a step back from formal lessons and reading about how I can get better, to just saying screw it and drawing what I wanted to instead. Try to find something that you like to sketch. Maybe it’s random, different things or something that’s piqued your interest, or something you found in real life. And then try replicate it on your pad. Slowly but surely you’ll find yourself getting better and better at art and drawing! I personally found it helpful to make a little streak for yourself and see how many days you can go by drawing at least one thing a day!
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Are you also making art for fun in addition to these lessons? The drawabox content is incredibly valuable but it's pretty dry, and intended to be done alongside the practice you do for joy's sake. Do you like doing characters? Landscapes? creatures? robots? The more you do of that the more you'll see how these lessons lock into the fun art stuff. I'm also about 5 years in and it took me a long time to see my progress, but it is there! Have you looked back at your first attempts from 5 years ago? I bet you've gotten better since then!
| 1 | 11,702 | 1.333333 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcl9gh
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flcb7ma
| 1,585,035,409 | 1,585,024,960 | 12 | 9 |
I quit after the second boxes homework and started to do plant studies. While the courses are incredibly informative, I feel like there’s just too much stuff to grasp at once as another beginner myself. And way too much work on top of that. It took 40 minutes to finish one of the box homeworks and I was just done. (I do understand why he has the work and exercises set up like this, but they’re just not fun and are grueling to get through) There’s nothing wrong with Drawabox not being right for you, but I hope you don’t give up drawing. At the end of the day though, sketching, and art in general, is supposed to be fun. A major pitfall I saw with myself is I would compare my progress with that of my other art friends and would pressure myself to rush and get better myself all at once and then beat myself up when it came out looking wrong or just in a way I like. Though, I’ve since noticed everybody has a different journey with art, and with different paces of progress. And there’s nothing wrong with that. I found it helpful to take a step back from formal lessons and reading about how I can get better, to just saying screw it and drawing what I wanted to instead. Try to find something that you like to sketch. Maybe it’s random, different things or something that’s piqued your interest, or something you found in real life. And then try replicate it on your pad. Slowly but surely you’ll find yourself getting better and better at art and drawing! I personally found it helpful to make a little streak for yourself and see how many days you can go by drawing at least one thing a day!
|
I know that feel. My personal philosophy is that every crappy drawing I do gets me closer to a good drawing. You may want to adjust your mindset when it comes to doing art because we all know motivation is a real problem for artists. I recommend a book called The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. It helped me immensely by putting things in perspective and setting tangible goals for my art.
| 1 | 10,449 | 1.333333 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flca3mj
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flcl9gh
| 1,585,024,019 | 1,585,035,409 | 5 | 12 |
Uhm. It's gotta depend on what your goals are. Then plan milestones within that same goal. If you want, we can chat on Google Hangout, and we can figure it out. I have a bit of extra time now. Message me if you're interested. But yeah, it always comes down to clearly defined goals.
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I quit after the second boxes homework and started to do plant studies. While the courses are incredibly informative, I feel like there’s just too much stuff to grasp at once as another beginner myself. And way too much work on top of that. It took 40 minutes to finish one of the box homeworks and I was just done. (I do understand why he has the work and exercises set up like this, but they’re just not fun and are grueling to get through) There’s nothing wrong with Drawabox not being right for you, but I hope you don’t give up drawing. At the end of the day though, sketching, and art in general, is supposed to be fun. A major pitfall I saw with myself is I would compare my progress with that of my other art friends and would pressure myself to rush and get better myself all at once and then beat myself up when it came out looking wrong or just in a way I like. Though, I’ve since noticed everybody has a different journey with art, and with different paces of progress. And there’s nothing wrong with that. I found it helpful to take a step back from formal lessons and reading about how I can get better, to just saying screw it and drawing what I wanted to instead. Try to find something that you like to sketch. Maybe it’s random, different things or something that’s piqued your interest, or something you found in real life. And then try replicate it on your pad. Slowly but surely you’ll find yourself getting better and better at art and drawing! I personally found it helpful to make a little streak for yourself and see how many days you can go by drawing at least one thing a day!
| 0 | 11,390 | 2.4 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcl9gh
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flbwi8b
| 1,585,035,409 | 1,585,014,235 | 12 | 4 |
I quit after the second boxes homework and started to do plant studies. While the courses are incredibly informative, I feel like there’s just too much stuff to grasp at once as another beginner myself. And way too much work on top of that. It took 40 minutes to finish one of the box homeworks and I was just done. (I do understand why he has the work and exercises set up like this, but they’re just not fun and are grueling to get through) There’s nothing wrong with Drawabox not being right for you, but I hope you don’t give up drawing. At the end of the day though, sketching, and art in general, is supposed to be fun. A major pitfall I saw with myself is I would compare my progress with that of my other art friends and would pressure myself to rush and get better myself all at once and then beat myself up when it came out looking wrong or just in a way I like. Though, I’ve since noticed everybody has a different journey with art, and with different paces of progress. And there’s nothing wrong with that. I found it helpful to take a step back from formal lessons and reading about how I can get better, to just saying screw it and drawing what I wanted to instead. Try to find something that you like to sketch. Maybe it’s random, different things or something that’s piqued your interest, or something you found in real life. And then try replicate it on your pad. Slowly but surely you’ll find yourself getting better and better at art and drawing! I personally found it helpful to make a little streak for yourself and see how many days you can go by drawing at least one thing a day!
|
Hm... I have to think about that. I am sorry you experience it like this. Would it help if I say that I struggle, too? I still everything everyone else does is so much better. I only started with the lessons but they are hard... You know what I think? Either you are trying to hard and you need to change the way you see things or you haven't found the right medium or style, yet. Maybe you are also not able to see little improvements.. I don't know you. For me I am still at the boxes and man those are hard. Rough perspective O.O what? But hey I hit the vanishing point twice just twice in the exercise. But there were small improvements. I somehow fail to believe that someone who practises their drawing does not at least in some way improve. I wish I could look at your progress and tell you that but maybe someone who has done those lessons can help you out better. Don't be discouraged. Do the exercises but try something else. If you have never done painting - give it a try. A different technique/approach might feel like a refreshment.
| 1 | 21,174 | 3 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flc9pzn
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flchogu
| 1,585,023,707 | 1,585,031,260 | 9 | 10 |
Are you also making art for fun in addition to these lessons? The drawabox content is incredibly valuable but it's pretty dry, and intended to be done alongside the practice you do for joy's sake. Do you like doing characters? Landscapes? creatures? robots? The more you do of that the more you'll see how these lessons lock into the fun art stuff. I'm also about 5 years in and it took me a long time to see my progress, but it is there! Have you looked back at your first attempts from 5 years ago? I bet you've gotten better since then!
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I tried to do drawabox a while ago. (Using a different account than this) Sitting around doing nothing all day was starting to feel mind numbing and I felt like putting that empty time towards a skill would be worth my while. The site seems amazingly well done and I’m impressed by what the creator has accomplished and the community feedback. However, it took me multiple hours to get through one page of practice activities, and therefore multiple months to make very little progress over all. As awful as it felt to sit and stare at a wall all day, doing the activities felt even worse. As I sat there my brain turned to mushy static, my breathing became uneven, my vision got blurry and my body would start to vibrate. I wondered if the payoff at the end would eventually be worth it. I imagined myself being able to produce great art pieces but having years of THAT behind me, and continuing to do so for many more years (as they say, art is something you must constantly practice and improve on). Though, I don’t really think that this is something specific to art-I have run into the same problem when practicing any skill. Attempting to learn an instrument, to write, to do physical things with my body, etc. When I picture the payoff at the end (having whichever skill) and I compare it to the cost (which is generally gonna be experiencing THAT on a frequent and constant basis to both build, upkeep, and improve the skill), the cost seems disproportionate to the payoff. I guess that’s what I would consider the main thing to think about. Picture yourself as a highly proficient artist one day, then picture the cost to you to get there. Is the cost worth the payoff?
| 0 | 7,553 | 1.111111 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flchogu
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fle2hrk
| 1,585,031,260 | 1,585,076,364 | 10 | 11 |
I tried to do drawabox a while ago. (Using a different account than this) Sitting around doing nothing all day was starting to feel mind numbing and I felt like putting that empty time towards a skill would be worth my while. The site seems amazingly well done and I’m impressed by what the creator has accomplished and the community feedback. However, it took me multiple hours to get through one page of practice activities, and therefore multiple months to make very little progress over all. As awful as it felt to sit and stare at a wall all day, doing the activities felt even worse. As I sat there my brain turned to mushy static, my breathing became uneven, my vision got blurry and my body would start to vibrate. I wondered if the payoff at the end would eventually be worth it. I imagined myself being able to produce great art pieces but having years of THAT behind me, and continuing to do so for many more years (as they say, art is something you must constantly practice and improve on). Though, I don’t really think that this is something specific to art-I have run into the same problem when practicing any skill. Attempting to learn an instrument, to write, to do physical things with my body, etc. When I picture the payoff at the end (having whichever skill) and I compare it to the cost (which is generally gonna be experiencing THAT on a frequent and constant basis to both build, upkeep, and improve the skill), the cost seems disproportionate to the payoff. I guess that’s what I would consider the main thing to think about. Picture yourself as a highly proficient artist one day, then picture the cost to you to get there. Is the cost worth the payoff?
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I think I am like you. This is probably my... 8th year? I lost count. In my like... First 7 years I really disliked art. I know I wanted to draw, but I never enjoyed the process because improvement was so slow. I was good at many subjects in school, but art? I am a complete dunce at it. So, I think I relate to you a lot in wanting to draw, but not being able to learn how and also just... Getting frustrated by the process and with that, hating art. Personally, I had to reframe my approach to drawing. I'm still not the best, but I think I enjoy and improve at art better now cos of this. 1) Enjoy the process. Stop focusing on the result. Really let yourself relax and enjoy drawing. Whether that's rendering lighting or sketching the initial draft, focus on having fun and have patience. Throw out all your negative judgement. Just sit down and draw. I compare it to doing a hobby you really like. You don't think about being good at it, you just enjoy it cos it's fun and relaxing. Getting good at it is a side effect. Before, I just thought of 'making the next big piece'. Not so healthy when you put all the fun into a perfect result. Because all of us fail, a lot. 2) Have specific practice goals. It's more enjoyable when you have clear goals. Mine is usually something like: ->attempt lighting/shade studies from still-life for 15 mins And then maybe I'll draw whatever I want after that. It doesn't matter how my drawing session ends up. What matters is I reached my practice goals that day. That makes me feel more accomplished. That's my 2 cents. I'm no professional, but I felt compelled to reply cos you sound so much like me. I know it's a struggle, but if you want to make art (and if you're stubborn like me), you'll come back to that dream again and again.
| 0 | 45,104 | 1.1 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flchogu
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flcb7ma
| 1,585,031,260 | 1,585,024,960 | 10 | 9 |
I tried to do drawabox a while ago. (Using a different account than this) Sitting around doing nothing all day was starting to feel mind numbing and I felt like putting that empty time towards a skill would be worth my while. The site seems amazingly well done and I’m impressed by what the creator has accomplished and the community feedback. However, it took me multiple hours to get through one page of practice activities, and therefore multiple months to make very little progress over all. As awful as it felt to sit and stare at a wall all day, doing the activities felt even worse. As I sat there my brain turned to mushy static, my breathing became uneven, my vision got blurry and my body would start to vibrate. I wondered if the payoff at the end would eventually be worth it. I imagined myself being able to produce great art pieces but having years of THAT behind me, and continuing to do so for many more years (as they say, art is something you must constantly practice and improve on). Though, I don’t really think that this is something specific to art-I have run into the same problem when practicing any skill. Attempting to learn an instrument, to write, to do physical things with my body, etc. When I picture the payoff at the end (having whichever skill) and I compare it to the cost (which is generally gonna be experiencing THAT on a frequent and constant basis to both build, upkeep, and improve the skill), the cost seems disproportionate to the payoff. I guess that’s what I would consider the main thing to think about. Picture yourself as a highly proficient artist one day, then picture the cost to you to get there. Is the cost worth the payoff?
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I know that feel. My personal philosophy is that every crappy drawing I do gets me closer to a good drawing. You may want to adjust your mindset when it comes to doing art because we all know motivation is a real problem for artists. I recommend a book called The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. It helped me immensely by putting things in perspective and setting tangible goals for my art.
| 1 | 6,300 | 1.111111 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flchogu
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flca3mj
| 1,585,031,260 | 1,585,024,019 | 10 | 5 |
I tried to do drawabox a while ago. (Using a different account than this) Sitting around doing nothing all day was starting to feel mind numbing and I felt like putting that empty time towards a skill would be worth my while. The site seems amazingly well done and I’m impressed by what the creator has accomplished and the community feedback. However, it took me multiple hours to get through one page of practice activities, and therefore multiple months to make very little progress over all. As awful as it felt to sit and stare at a wall all day, doing the activities felt even worse. As I sat there my brain turned to mushy static, my breathing became uneven, my vision got blurry and my body would start to vibrate. I wondered if the payoff at the end would eventually be worth it. I imagined myself being able to produce great art pieces but having years of THAT behind me, and continuing to do so for many more years (as they say, art is something you must constantly practice and improve on). Though, I don’t really think that this is something specific to art-I have run into the same problem when practicing any skill. Attempting to learn an instrument, to write, to do physical things with my body, etc. When I picture the payoff at the end (having whichever skill) and I compare it to the cost (which is generally gonna be experiencing THAT on a frequent and constant basis to both build, upkeep, and improve the skill), the cost seems disproportionate to the payoff. I guess that’s what I would consider the main thing to think about. Picture yourself as a highly proficient artist one day, then picture the cost to you to get there. Is the cost worth the payoff?
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Uhm. It's gotta depend on what your goals are. Then plan milestones within that same goal. If you want, we can chat on Google Hangout, and we can figure it out. I have a bit of extra time now. Message me if you're interested. But yeah, it always comes down to clearly defined goals.
| 1 | 7,241 | 2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flbwi8b
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flchogu
| 1,585,014,235 | 1,585,031,260 | 4 | 10 |
Hm... I have to think about that. I am sorry you experience it like this. Would it help if I say that I struggle, too? I still everything everyone else does is so much better. I only started with the lessons but they are hard... You know what I think? Either you are trying to hard and you need to change the way you see things or you haven't found the right medium or style, yet. Maybe you are also not able to see little improvements.. I don't know you. For me I am still at the boxes and man those are hard. Rough perspective O.O what? But hey I hit the vanishing point twice just twice in the exercise. But there were small improvements. I somehow fail to believe that someone who practises their drawing does not at least in some way improve. I wish I could look at your progress and tell you that but maybe someone who has done those lessons can help you out better. Don't be discouraged. Do the exercises but try something else. If you have never done painting - give it a try. A different technique/approach might feel like a refreshment.
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I tried to do drawabox a while ago. (Using a different account than this) Sitting around doing nothing all day was starting to feel mind numbing and I felt like putting that empty time towards a skill would be worth my while. The site seems amazingly well done and I’m impressed by what the creator has accomplished and the community feedback. However, it took me multiple hours to get through one page of practice activities, and therefore multiple months to make very little progress over all. As awful as it felt to sit and stare at a wall all day, doing the activities felt even worse. As I sat there my brain turned to mushy static, my breathing became uneven, my vision got blurry and my body would start to vibrate. I wondered if the payoff at the end would eventually be worth it. I imagined myself being able to produce great art pieces but having years of THAT behind me, and continuing to do so for many more years (as they say, art is something you must constantly practice and improve on). Though, I don’t really think that this is something specific to art-I have run into the same problem when practicing any skill. Attempting to learn an instrument, to write, to do physical things with my body, etc. When I picture the payoff at the end (having whichever skill) and I compare it to the cost (which is generally gonna be experiencing THAT on a frequent and constant basis to both build, upkeep, and improve the skill), the cost seems disproportionate to the payoff. I guess that’s what I would consider the main thing to think about. Picture yourself as a highly proficient artist one day, then picture the cost to you to get there. Is the cost worth the payoff?
| 0 | 17,025 | 2.5 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fld322t
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flc9pzn
| 1,585,055,235 | 1,585,023,707 | 10 | 9 |
Do you enjoy drawing? Your answer to that question is the inverse my answer for whether you should quit.
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Are you also making art for fun in addition to these lessons? The drawabox content is incredibly valuable but it's pretty dry, and intended to be done alongside the practice you do for joy's sake. Do you like doing characters? Landscapes? creatures? robots? The more you do of that the more you'll see how these lessons lock into the fun art stuff. I'm also about 5 years in and it took me a long time to see my progress, but it is there! Have you looked back at your first attempts from 5 years ago? I bet you've gotten better since then!
| 1 | 31,528 | 1.111111 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fld3c9x
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flc9pzn
| 1,585,055,455 | 1,585,023,707 | 10 | 9 |
I think your in your head too much. Relax and just have fun. Find what kind of art you like doing and just do that. If you're always studying you'll get burned out quickly, and after 20 minutes of work your brain gets dimishing returns.
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Are you also making art for fun in addition to these lessons? The drawabox content is incredibly valuable but it's pretty dry, and intended to be done alongside the practice you do for joy's sake. Do you like doing characters? Landscapes? creatures? robots? The more you do of that the more you'll see how these lessons lock into the fun art stuff. I'm also about 5 years in and it took me a long time to see my progress, but it is there! Have you looked back at your first attempts from 5 years ago? I bet you've gotten better since then!
| 1 | 31,748 | 1.111111 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fle2hrk
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flc9pzn
| 1,585,076,364 | 1,585,023,707 | 11 | 9 |
I think I am like you. This is probably my... 8th year? I lost count. In my like... First 7 years I really disliked art. I know I wanted to draw, but I never enjoyed the process because improvement was so slow. I was good at many subjects in school, but art? I am a complete dunce at it. So, I think I relate to you a lot in wanting to draw, but not being able to learn how and also just... Getting frustrated by the process and with that, hating art. Personally, I had to reframe my approach to drawing. I'm still not the best, but I think I enjoy and improve at art better now cos of this. 1) Enjoy the process. Stop focusing on the result. Really let yourself relax and enjoy drawing. Whether that's rendering lighting or sketching the initial draft, focus on having fun and have patience. Throw out all your negative judgement. Just sit down and draw. I compare it to doing a hobby you really like. You don't think about being good at it, you just enjoy it cos it's fun and relaxing. Getting good at it is a side effect. Before, I just thought of 'making the next big piece'. Not so healthy when you put all the fun into a perfect result. Because all of us fail, a lot. 2) Have specific practice goals. It's more enjoyable when you have clear goals. Mine is usually something like: ->attempt lighting/shade studies from still-life for 15 mins And then maybe I'll draw whatever I want after that. It doesn't matter how my drawing session ends up. What matters is I reached my practice goals that day. That makes me feel more accomplished. That's my 2 cents. I'm no professional, but I felt compelled to reply cos you sound so much like me. I know it's a struggle, but if you want to make art (and if you're stubborn like me), you'll come back to that dream again and again.
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Are you also making art for fun in addition to these lessons? The drawabox content is incredibly valuable but it's pretty dry, and intended to be done alongside the practice you do for joy's sake. Do you like doing characters? Landscapes? creatures? robots? The more you do of that the more you'll see how these lessons lock into the fun art stuff. I'm also about 5 years in and it took me a long time to see my progress, but it is there! Have you looked back at your first attempts from 5 years ago? I bet you've gotten better since then!
| 1 | 52,657 | 1.222222 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flc9pzn
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flclquk
| 1,585,023,707 | 1,585,035,999 | 9 | 10 |
Are you also making art for fun in addition to these lessons? The drawabox content is incredibly valuable but it's pretty dry, and intended to be done alongside the practice you do for joy's sake. Do you like doing characters? Landscapes? creatures? robots? The more you do of that the more you'll see how these lessons lock into the fun art stuff. I'm also about 5 years in and it took me a long time to see my progress, but it is there! Have you looked back at your first attempts from 5 years ago? I bet you've gotten better since then!
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Maybe thats just not the way your brain learnes. You could try to just draw from life or something.
| 0 | 12,292 | 1.111111 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flbwi8b
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flc9pzn
| 1,585,014,235 | 1,585,023,707 | 4 | 9 |
Hm... I have to think about that. I am sorry you experience it like this. Would it help if I say that I struggle, too? I still everything everyone else does is so much better. I only started with the lessons but they are hard... You know what I think? Either you are trying to hard and you need to change the way you see things or you haven't found the right medium or style, yet. Maybe you are also not able to see little improvements.. I don't know you. For me I am still at the boxes and man those are hard. Rough perspective O.O what? But hey I hit the vanishing point twice just twice in the exercise. But there were small improvements. I somehow fail to believe that someone who practises their drawing does not at least in some way improve. I wish I could look at your progress and tell you that but maybe someone who has done those lessons can help you out better. Don't be discouraged. Do the exercises but try something else. If you have never done painting - give it a try. A different technique/approach might feel like a refreshment.
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Are you also making art for fun in addition to these lessons? The drawabox content is incredibly valuable but it's pretty dry, and intended to be done alongside the practice you do for joy's sake. Do you like doing characters? Landscapes? creatures? robots? The more you do of that the more you'll see how these lessons lock into the fun art stuff. I'm also about 5 years in and it took me a long time to see my progress, but it is there! Have you looked back at your first attempts from 5 years ago? I bet you've gotten better since then!
| 0 | 9,472 | 2.25 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fld322t
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fle2hrk
| 1,585,055,235 | 1,585,076,364 | 10 | 11 |
Do you enjoy drawing? Your answer to that question is the inverse my answer for whether you should quit.
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I think I am like you. This is probably my... 8th year? I lost count. In my like... First 7 years I really disliked art. I know I wanted to draw, but I never enjoyed the process because improvement was so slow. I was good at many subjects in school, but art? I am a complete dunce at it. So, I think I relate to you a lot in wanting to draw, but not being able to learn how and also just... Getting frustrated by the process and with that, hating art. Personally, I had to reframe my approach to drawing. I'm still not the best, but I think I enjoy and improve at art better now cos of this. 1) Enjoy the process. Stop focusing on the result. Really let yourself relax and enjoy drawing. Whether that's rendering lighting or sketching the initial draft, focus on having fun and have patience. Throw out all your negative judgement. Just sit down and draw. I compare it to doing a hobby you really like. You don't think about being good at it, you just enjoy it cos it's fun and relaxing. Getting good at it is a side effect. Before, I just thought of 'making the next big piece'. Not so healthy when you put all the fun into a perfect result. Because all of us fail, a lot. 2) Have specific practice goals. It's more enjoyable when you have clear goals. Mine is usually something like: ->attempt lighting/shade studies from still-life for 15 mins And then maybe I'll draw whatever I want after that. It doesn't matter how my drawing session ends up. What matters is I reached my practice goals that day. That makes me feel more accomplished. That's my 2 cents. I'm no professional, but I felt compelled to reply cos you sound so much like me. I know it's a struggle, but if you want to make art (and if you're stubborn like me), you'll come back to that dream again and again.
| 0 | 21,129 | 1.1 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fld322t
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flcb7ma
| 1,585,055,235 | 1,585,024,960 | 10 | 9 |
Do you enjoy drawing? Your answer to that question is the inverse my answer for whether you should quit.
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I know that feel. My personal philosophy is that every crappy drawing I do gets me closer to a good drawing. You may want to adjust your mindset when it comes to doing art because we all know motivation is a real problem for artists. I recommend a book called The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. It helped me immensely by putting things in perspective and setting tangible goals for my art.
| 1 | 30,275 | 1.111111 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fld2q3l
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fld322t
| 1,585,054,978 | 1,585,055,235 | 6 | 10 |
I'm a painter and I stress really hard sometimes when it isn't looking right. I tell myself this like a meditation. "If it doesn't look good it's not a failure, it's just not finished yet"
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Do you enjoy drawing? Your answer to that question is the inverse my answer for whether you should quit.
| 0 | 257 | 1.666667 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcptwf
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fld322t
| 1,585,041,213 | 1,585,055,235 | 5 | 10 |
Have you tried taking lessons? Serious question. I used to have problem also with tutorial until I started taking lessons.
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Do you enjoy drawing? Your answer to that question is the inverse my answer for whether you should quit.
| 0 | 14,022 | 2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcz42g
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fld322t
| 1,585,051,927 | 1,585,055,235 | 5 | 10 |
Do you have links to your Lessons 1 & 2 submissions?
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Do you enjoy drawing? Your answer to that question is the inverse my answer for whether you should quit.
| 0 | 3,308 | 2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flca3mj
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fld322t
| 1,585,024,019 | 1,585,055,235 | 5 | 10 |
Uhm. It's gotta depend on what your goals are. Then plan milestones within that same goal. If you want, we can chat on Google Hangout, and we can figure it out. I have a bit of extra time now. Message me if you're interested. But yeah, it always comes down to clearly defined goals.
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Do you enjoy drawing? Your answer to that question is the inverse my answer for whether you should quit.
| 0 | 31,216 | 2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcp9br
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fld322t
| 1,585,040,468 | 1,585,055,235 | 5 | 10 |
Sometimes when I went further, id do poorly in one area and decide to go back through some sections, do it again, try to think more about it, and I found it helped a good bit. Getting frustrated that "its wrong" is natural, but its important to ask *why* and *where* its wrong, its important to think through things with drawing. Sometimes it also helps to change to a different subject/method in general. These aren't just skills you practice and master in one go, you build, build, and build them.
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Do you enjoy drawing? Your answer to that question is the inverse my answer for whether you should quit.
| 0 | 14,767 | 2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fld322t
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flbwi8b
| 1,585,055,235 | 1,585,014,235 | 10 | 4 |
Do you enjoy drawing? Your answer to that question is the inverse my answer for whether you should quit.
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Hm... I have to think about that. I am sorry you experience it like this. Would it help if I say that I struggle, too? I still everything everyone else does is so much better. I only started with the lessons but they are hard... You know what I think? Either you are trying to hard and you need to change the way you see things or you haven't found the right medium or style, yet. Maybe you are also not able to see little improvements.. I don't know you. For me I am still at the boxes and man those are hard. Rough perspective O.O what? But hey I hit the vanishing point twice just twice in the exercise. But there were small improvements. I somehow fail to believe that someone who practises their drawing does not at least in some way improve. I wish I could look at your progress and tell you that but maybe someone who has done those lessons can help you out better. Don't be discouraged. Do the exercises but try something else. If you have never done painting - give it a try. A different technique/approach might feel like a refreshment.
| 1 | 41,000 | 2.5 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fld3c9x
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fle2hrk
| 1,585,055,455 | 1,585,076,364 | 10 | 11 |
I think your in your head too much. Relax and just have fun. Find what kind of art you like doing and just do that. If you're always studying you'll get burned out quickly, and after 20 minutes of work your brain gets dimishing returns.
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I think I am like you. This is probably my... 8th year? I lost count. In my like... First 7 years I really disliked art. I know I wanted to draw, but I never enjoyed the process because improvement was so slow. I was good at many subjects in school, but art? I am a complete dunce at it. So, I think I relate to you a lot in wanting to draw, but not being able to learn how and also just... Getting frustrated by the process and with that, hating art. Personally, I had to reframe my approach to drawing. I'm still not the best, but I think I enjoy and improve at art better now cos of this. 1) Enjoy the process. Stop focusing on the result. Really let yourself relax and enjoy drawing. Whether that's rendering lighting or sketching the initial draft, focus on having fun and have patience. Throw out all your negative judgement. Just sit down and draw. I compare it to doing a hobby you really like. You don't think about being good at it, you just enjoy it cos it's fun and relaxing. Getting good at it is a side effect. Before, I just thought of 'making the next big piece'. Not so healthy when you put all the fun into a perfect result. Because all of us fail, a lot. 2) Have specific practice goals. It's more enjoyable when you have clear goals. Mine is usually something like: ->attempt lighting/shade studies from still-life for 15 mins And then maybe I'll draw whatever I want after that. It doesn't matter how my drawing session ends up. What matters is I reached my practice goals that day. That makes me feel more accomplished. That's my 2 cents. I'm no professional, but I felt compelled to reply cos you sound so much like me. I know it's a struggle, but if you want to make art (and if you're stubborn like me), you'll come back to that dream again and again.
| 0 | 20,909 | 1.1 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcb7ma
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fld3c9x
| 1,585,024,960 | 1,585,055,455 | 9 | 10 |
I know that feel. My personal philosophy is that every crappy drawing I do gets me closer to a good drawing. You may want to adjust your mindset when it comes to doing art because we all know motivation is a real problem for artists. I recommend a book called The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. It helped me immensely by putting things in perspective and setting tangible goals for my art.
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I think your in your head too much. Relax and just have fun. Find what kind of art you like doing and just do that. If you're always studying you'll get burned out quickly, and after 20 minutes of work your brain gets dimishing returns.
| 0 | 30,495 | 1.111111 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fld3c9x
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fld2q3l
| 1,585,055,455 | 1,585,054,978 | 10 | 6 |
I think your in your head too much. Relax and just have fun. Find what kind of art you like doing and just do that. If you're always studying you'll get burned out quickly, and after 20 minutes of work your brain gets dimishing returns.
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I'm a painter and I stress really hard sometimes when it isn't looking right. I tell myself this like a meditation. "If it doesn't look good it's not a failure, it's just not finished yet"
| 1 | 477 | 1.666667 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fld3c9x
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flcptwf
| 1,585,055,455 | 1,585,041,213 | 10 | 5 |
I think your in your head too much. Relax and just have fun. Find what kind of art you like doing and just do that. If you're always studying you'll get burned out quickly, and after 20 minutes of work your brain gets dimishing returns.
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Have you tried taking lessons? Serious question. I used to have problem also with tutorial until I started taking lessons.
| 1 | 14,242 | 2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fld3c9x
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flcz42g
| 1,585,055,455 | 1,585,051,927 | 10 | 5 |
I think your in your head too much. Relax and just have fun. Find what kind of art you like doing and just do that. If you're always studying you'll get burned out quickly, and after 20 minutes of work your brain gets dimishing returns.
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Do you have links to your Lessons 1 & 2 submissions?
| 1 | 3,528 | 2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flca3mj
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fld3c9x
| 1,585,024,019 | 1,585,055,455 | 5 | 10 |
Uhm. It's gotta depend on what your goals are. Then plan milestones within that same goal. If you want, we can chat on Google Hangout, and we can figure it out. I have a bit of extra time now. Message me if you're interested. But yeah, it always comes down to clearly defined goals.
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I think your in your head too much. Relax and just have fun. Find what kind of art you like doing and just do that. If you're always studying you'll get burned out quickly, and after 20 minutes of work your brain gets dimishing returns.
| 0 | 31,436 | 2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fld3c9x
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flcp9br
| 1,585,055,455 | 1,585,040,468 | 10 | 5 |
I think your in your head too much. Relax and just have fun. Find what kind of art you like doing and just do that. If you're always studying you'll get burned out quickly, and after 20 minutes of work your brain gets dimishing returns.
|
Sometimes when I went further, id do poorly in one area and decide to go back through some sections, do it again, try to think more about it, and I found it helped a good bit. Getting frustrated that "its wrong" is natural, but its important to ask *why* and *where* its wrong, its important to think through things with drawing. Sometimes it also helps to change to a different subject/method in general. These aren't just skills you practice and master in one go, you build, build, and build them.
| 1 | 14,987 | 2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flbwi8b
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fld3c9x
| 1,585,014,235 | 1,585,055,455 | 4 | 10 |
Hm... I have to think about that. I am sorry you experience it like this. Would it help if I say that I struggle, too? I still everything everyone else does is so much better. I only started with the lessons but they are hard... You know what I think? Either you are trying to hard and you need to change the way you see things or you haven't found the right medium or style, yet. Maybe you are also not able to see little improvements.. I don't know you. For me I am still at the boxes and man those are hard. Rough perspective O.O what? But hey I hit the vanishing point twice just twice in the exercise. But there were small improvements. I somehow fail to believe that someone who practises their drawing does not at least in some way improve. I wish I could look at your progress and tell you that but maybe someone who has done those lessons can help you out better. Don't be discouraged. Do the exercises but try something else. If you have never done painting - give it a try. A different technique/approach might feel like a refreshment.
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I think your in your head too much. Relax and just have fun. Find what kind of art you like doing and just do that. If you're always studying you'll get burned out quickly, and after 20 minutes of work your brain gets dimishing returns.
| 0 | 41,220 | 2.5 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fle2hrk
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flcb7ma
| 1,585,076,364 | 1,585,024,960 | 11 | 9 |
I think I am like you. This is probably my... 8th year? I lost count. In my like... First 7 years I really disliked art. I know I wanted to draw, but I never enjoyed the process because improvement was so slow. I was good at many subjects in school, but art? I am a complete dunce at it. So, I think I relate to you a lot in wanting to draw, but not being able to learn how and also just... Getting frustrated by the process and with that, hating art. Personally, I had to reframe my approach to drawing. I'm still not the best, but I think I enjoy and improve at art better now cos of this. 1) Enjoy the process. Stop focusing on the result. Really let yourself relax and enjoy drawing. Whether that's rendering lighting or sketching the initial draft, focus on having fun and have patience. Throw out all your negative judgement. Just sit down and draw. I compare it to doing a hobby you really like. You don't think about being good at it, you just enjoy it cos it's fun and relaxing. Getting good at it is a side effect. Before, I just thought of 'making the next big piece'. Not so healthy when you put all the fun into a perfect result. Because all of us fail, a lot. 2) Have specific practice goals. It's more enjoyable when you have clear goals. Mine is usually something like: ->attempt lighting/shade studies from still-life for 15 mins And then maybe I'll draw whatever I want after that. It doesn't matter how my drawing session ends up. What matters is I reached my practice goals that day. That makes me feel more accomplished. That's my 2 cents. I'm no professional, but I felt compelled to reply cos you sound so much like me. I know it's a struggle, but if you want to make art (and if you're stubborn like me), you'll come back to that dream again and again.
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I know that feel. My personal philosophy is that every crappy drawing I do gets me closer to a good drawing. You may want to adjust your mindset when it comes to doing art because we all know motivation is a real problem for artists. I recommend a book called The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. It helped me immensely by putting things in perspective and setting tangible goals for my art.
| 1 | 51,404 | 1.222222 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fle2hrk
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flclquk
| 1,585,076,364 | 1,585,035,999 | 11 | 10 |
I think I am like you. This is probably my... 8th year? I lost count. In my like... First 7 years I really disliked art. I know I wanted to draw, but I never enjoyed the process because improvement was so slow. I was good at many subjects in school, but art? I am a complete dunce at it. So, I think I relate to you a lot in wanting to draw, but not being able to learn how and also just... Getting frustrated by the process and with that, hating art. Personally, I had to reframe my approach to drawing. I'm still not the best, but I think I enjoy and improve at art better now cos of this. 1) Enjoy the process. Stop focusing on the result. Really let yourself relax and enjoy drawing. Whether that's rendering lighting or sketching the initial draft, focus on having fun and have patience. Throw out all your negative judgement. Just sit down and draw. I compare it to doing a hobby you really like. You don't think about being good at it, you just enjoy it cos it's fun and relaxing. Getting good at it is a side effect. Before, I just thought of 'making the next big piece'. Not so healthy when you put all the fun into a perfect result. Because all of us fail, a lot. 2) Have specific practice goals. It's more enjoyable when you have clear goals. Mine is usually something like: ->attempt lighting/shade studies from still-life for 15 mins And then maybe I'll draw whatever I want after that. It doesn't matter how my drawing session ends up. What matters is I reached my practice goals that day. That makes me feel more accomplished. That's my 2 cents. I'm no professional, but I felt compelled to reply cos you sound so much like me. I know it's a struggle, but if you want to make art (and if you're stubborn like me), you'll come back to that dream again and again.
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Maybe thats just not the way your brain learnes. You could try to just draw from life or something.
| 1 | 40,365 | 1.1 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fld2q3l
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fle2hrk
| 1,585,054,978 | 1,585,076,364 | 6 | 11 |
I'm a painter and I stress really hard sometimes when it isn't looking right. I tell myself this like a meditation. "If it doesn't look good it's not a failure, it's just not finished yet"
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I think I am like you. This is probably my... 8th year? I lost count. In my like... First 7 years I really disliked art. I know I wanted to draw, but I never enjoyed the process because improvement was so slow. I was good at many subjects in school, but art? I am a complete dunce at it. So, I think I relate to you a lot in wanting to draw, but not being able to learn how and also just... Getting frustrated by the process and with that, hating art. Personally, I had to reframe my approach to drawing. I'm still not the best, but I think I enjoy and improve at art better now cos of this. 1) Enjoy the process. Stop focusing on the result. Really let yourself relax and enjoy drawing. Whether that's rendering lighting or sketching the initial draft, focus on having fun and have patience. Throw out all your negative judgement. Just sit down and draw. I compare it to doing a hobby you really like. You don't think about being good at it, you just enjoy it cos it's fun and relaxing. Getting good at it is a side effect. Before, I just thought of 'making the next big piece'. Not so healthy when you put all the fun into a perfect result. Because all of us fail, a lot. 2) Have specific practice goals. It's more enjoyable when you have clear goals. Mine is usually something like: ->attempt lighting/shade studies from still-life for 15 mins And then maybe I'll draw whatever I want after that. It doesn't matter how my drawing session ends up. What matters is I reached my practice goals that day. That makes me feel more accomplished. That's my 2 cents. I'm no professional, but I felt compelled to reply cos you sound so much like me. I know it's a struggle, but if you want to make art (and if you're stubborn like me), you'll come back to that dream again and again.
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fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
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When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fle2hrk
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fldv3wt
| 1,585,076,364 | 1,585,072,297 | 11 | 6 |
I think I am like you. This is probably my... 8th year? I lost count. In my like... First 7 years I really disliked art. I know I wanted to draw, but I never enjoyed the process because improvement was so slow. I was good at many subjects in school, but art? I am a complete dunce at it. So, I think I relate to you a lot in wanting to draw, but not being able to learn how and also just... Getting frustrated by the process and with that, hating art. Personally, I had to reframe my approach to drawing. I'm still not the best, but I think I enjoy and improve at art better now cos of this. 1) Enjoy the process. Stop focusing on the result. Really let yourself relax and enjoy drawing. Whether that's rendering lighting or sketching the initial draft, focus on having fun and have patience. Throw out all your negative judgement. Just sit down and draw. I compare it to doing a hobby you really like. You don't think about being good at it, you just enjoy it cos it's fun and relaxing. Getting good at it is a side effect. Before, I just thought of 'making the next big piece'. Not so healthy when you put all the fun into a perfect result. Because all of us fail, a lot. 2) Have specific practice goals. It's more enjoyable when you have clear goals. Mine is usually something like: ->attempt lighting/shade studies from still-life for 15 mins And then maybe I'll draw whatever I want after that. It doesn't matter how my drawing session ends up. What matters is I reached my practice goals that day. That makes me feel more accomplished. That's my 2 cents. I'm no professional, but I felt compelled to reply cos you sound so much like me. I know it's a struggle, but if you want to make art (and if you're stubborn like me), you'll come back to that dream again and again.
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Sometimes I stop drawing for months because I’m just not feeling it. So if you really don’t feel like it, you shouldn’t force yourself. I always pick up the pencil and draw if I suddenly think of something cool or fun to draw, just for myself. Don’t draw for other people. I also struggled with the “Every time I draw it looks awful.” What I realized though is that when you achieve even one thing that looks ok, it’s super inspiring. You set really high expectations of yourself whenever you start training a new skill. You think “Why can’t I just draw like them or make something that actually looks good?”. I’ve found it important to not base your drawings off of other people’s drawings but, first just try recreating stuff you see around you. Even if its just shapes. I’d definitely recommend looking up contour drawing. The course I took started me with that and I believe it helped me get over that “I can only draw stickmen” phase.
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fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
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When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcptwf
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fle2hrk
| 1,585,041,213 | 1,585,076,364 | 5 | 11 |
Have you tried taking lessons? Serious question. I used to have problem also with tutorial until I started taking lessons.
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I think I am like you. This is probably my... 8th year? I lost count. In my like... First 7 years I really disliked art. I know I wanted to draw, but I never enjoyed the process because improvement was so slow. I was good at many subjects in school, but art? I am a complete dunce at it. So, I think I relate to you a lot in wanting to draw, but not being able to learn how and also just... Getting frustrated by the process and with that, hating art. Personally, I had to reframe my approach to drawing. I'm still not the best, but I think I enjoy and improve at art better now cos of this. 1) Enjoy the process. Stop focusing on the result. Really let yourself relax and enjoy drawing. Whether that's rendering lighting or sketching the initial draft, focus on having fun and have patience. Throw out all your negative judgement. Just sit down and draw. I compare it to doing a hobby you really like. You don't think about being good at it, you just enjoy it cos it's fun and relaxing. Getting good at it is a side effect. Before, I just thought of 'making the next big piece'. Not so healthy when you put all the fun into a perfect result. Because all of us fail, a lot. 2) Have specific practice goals. It's more enjoyable when you have clear goals. Mine is usually something like: ->attempt lighting/shade studies from still-life for 15 mins And then maybe I'll draw whatever I want after that. It doesn't matter how my drawing session ends up. What matters is I reached my practice goals that day. That makes me feel more accomplished. That's my 2 cents. I'm no professional, but I felt compelled to reply cos you sound so much like me. I know it's a struggle, but if you want to make art (and if you're stubborn like me), you'll come back to that dream again and again.
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fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
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When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fle2hrk
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flcz42g
| 1,585,076,364 | 1,585,051,927 | 11 | 5 |
I think I am like you. This is probably my... 8th year? I lost count. In my like... First 7 years I really disliked art. I know I wanted to draw, but I never enjoyed the process because improvement was so slow. I was good at many subjects in school, but art? I am a complete dunce at it. So, I think I relate to you a lot in wanting to draw, but not being able to learn how and also just... Getting frustrated by the process and with that, hating art. Personally, I had to reframe my approach to drawing. I'm still not the best, but I think I enjoy and improve at art better now cos of this. 1) Enjoy the process. Stop focusing on the result. Really let yourself relax and enjoy drawing. Whether that's rendering lighting or sketching the initial draft, focus on having fun and have patience. Throw out all your negative judgement. Just sit down and draw. I compare it to doing a hobby you really like. You don't think about being good at it, you just enjoy it cos it's fun and relaxing. Getting good at it is a side effect. Before, I just thought of 'making the next big piece'. Not so healthy when you put all the fun into a perfect result. Because all of us fail, a lot. 2) Have specific practice goals. It's more enjoyable when you have clear goals. Mine is usually something like: ->attempt lighting/shade studies from still-life for 15 mins And then maybe I'll draw whatever I want after that. It doesn't matter how my drawing session ends up. What matters is I reached my practice goals that day. That makes me feel more accomplished. That's my 2 cents. I'm no professional, but I felt compelled to reply cos you sound so much like me. I know it's a struggle, but if you want to make art (and if you're stubborn like me), you'll come back to that dream again and again.
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Do you have links to your Lessons 1 & 2 submissions?
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fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
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When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fle2hrk
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fldjqan
| 1,585,076,364 | 1,585,065,912 | 11 | 6 |
I think I am like you. This is probably my... 8th year? I lost count. In my like... First 7 years I really disliked art. I know I wanted to draw, but I never enjoyed the process because improvement was so slow. I was good at many subjects in school, but art? I am a complete dunce at it. So, I think I relate to you a lot in wanting to draw, but not being able to learn how and also just... Getting frustrated by the process and with that, hating art. Personally, I had to reframe my approach to drawing. I'm still not the best, but I think I enjoy and improve at art better now cos of this. 1) Enjoy the process. Stop focusing on the result. Really let yourself relax and enjoy drawing. Whether that's rendering lighting or sketching the initial draft, focus on having fun and have patience. Throw out all your negative judgement. Just sit down and draw. I compare it to doing a hobby you really like. You don't think about being good at it, you just enjoy it cos it's fun and relaxing. Getting good at it is a side effect. Before, I just thought of 'making the next big piece'. Not so healthy when you put all the fun into a perfect result. Because all of us fail, a lot. 2) Have specific practice goals. It's more enjoyable when you have clear goals. Mine is usually something like: ->attempt lighting/shade studies from still-life for 15 mins And then maybe I'll draw whatever I want after that. It doesn't matter how my drawing session ends up. What matters is I reached my practice goals that day. That makes me feel more accomplished. That's my 2 cents. I'm no professional, but I felt compelled to reply cos you sound so much like me. I know it's a struggle, but if you want to make art (and if you're stubborn like me), you'll come back to that dream again and again.
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I say as long as you want it, to continue to try. I've drawn since I was 6 years old. Got a degree in drawing and everything. It's not an easy thing. I'll tell you right now in college I constantly questioned if this is what I wanted and it gave me so much stress and unhappiness. After I graduated things started to click and I started to get really good. If you need help, shoot me a dm I'll try to give you some advice! Good luck!
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fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
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When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flca3mj
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fle2hrk
| 1,585,024,019 | 1,585,076,364 | 5 | 11 |
Uhm. It's gotta depend on what your goals are. Then plan milestones within that same goal. If you want, we can chat on Google Hangout, and we can figure it out. I have a bit of extra time now. Message me if you're interested. But yeah, it always comes down to clearly defined goals.
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I think I am like you. This is probably my... 8th year? I lost count. In my like... First 7 years I really disliked art. I know I wanted to draw, but I never enjoyed the process because improvement was so slow. I was good at many subjects in school, but art? I am a complete dunce at it. So, I think I relate to you a lot in wanting to draw, but not being able to learn how and also just... Getting frustrated by the process and with that, hating art. Personally, I had to reframe my approach to drawing. I'm still not the best, but I think I enjoy and improve at art better now cos of this. 1) Enjoy the process. Stop focusing on the result. Really let yourself relax and enjoy drawing. Whether that's rendering lighting or sketching the initial draft, focus on having fun and have patience. Throw out all your negative judgement. Just sit down and draw. I compare it to doing a hobby you really like. You don't think about being good at it, you just enjoy it cos it's fun and relaxing. Getting good at it is a side effect. Before, I just thought of 'making the next big piece'. Not so healthy when you put all the fun into a perfect result. Because all of us fail, a lot. 2) Have specific practice goals. It's more enjoyable when you have clear goals. Mine is usually something like: ->attempt lighting/shade studies from still-life for 15 mins And then maybe I'll draw whatever I want after that. It doesn't matter how my drawing session ends up. What matters is I reached my practice goals that day. That makes me feel more accomplished. That's my 2 cents. I'm no professional, but I felt compelled to reply cos you sound so much like me. I know it's a struggle, but if you want to make art (and if you're stubborn like me), you'll come back to that dream again and again.
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fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
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When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcp9br
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fle2hrk
| 1,585,040,468 | 1,585,076,364 | 5 | 11 |
Sometimes when I went further, id do poorly in one area and decide to go back through some sections, do it again, try to think more about it, and I found it helped a good bit. Getting frustrated that "its wrong" is natural, but its important to ask *why* and *where* its wrong, its important to think through things with drawing. Sometimes it also helps to change to a different subject/method in general. These aren't just skills you practice and master in one go, you build, build, and build them.
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I think I am like you. This is probably my... 8th year? I lost count. In my like... First 7 years I really disliked art. I know I wanted to draw, but I never enjoyed the process because improvement was so slow. I was good at many subjects in school, but art? I am a complete dunce at it. So, I think I relate to you a lot in wanting to draw, but not being able to learn how and also just... Getting frustrated by the process and with that, hating art. Personally, I had to reframe my approach to drawing. I'm still not the best, but I think I enjoy and improve at art better now cos of this. 1) Enjoy the process. Stop focusing on the result. Really let yourself relax and enjoy drawing. Whether that's rendering lighting or sketching the initial draft, focus on having fun and have patience. Throw out all your negative judgement. Just sit down and draw. I compare it to doing a hobby you really like. You don't think about being good at it, you just enjoy it cos it's fun and relaxing. Getting good at it is a side effect. Before, I just thought of 'making the next big piece'. Not so healthy when you put all the fun into a perfect result. Because all of us fail, a lot. 2) Have specific practice goals. It's more enjoyable when you have clear goals. Mine is usually something like: ->attempt lighting/shade studies from still-life for 15 mins And then maybe I'll draw whatever I want after that. It doesn't matter how my drawing session ends up. What matters is I reached my practice goals that day. That makes me feel more accomplished. That's my 2 cents. I'm no professional, but I felt compelled to reply cos you sound so much like me. I know it's a struggle, but if you want to make art (and if you're stubborn like me), you'll come back to that dream again and again.
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fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
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When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flbwi8b
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fle2hrk
| 1,585,014,235 | 1,585,076,364 | 4 | 11 |
Hm... I have to think about that. I am sorry you experience it like this. Would it help if I say that I struggle, too? I still everything everyone else does is so much better. I only started with the lessons but they are hard... You know what I think? Either you are trying to hard and you need to change the way you see things or you haven't found the right medium or style, yet. Maybe you are also not able to see little improvements.. I don't know you. For me I am still at the boxes and man those are hard. Rough perspective O.O what? But hey I hit the vanishing point twice just twice in the exercise. But there were small improvements. I somehow fail to believe that someone who practises their drawing does not at least in some way improve. I wish I could look at your progress and tell you that but maybe someone who has done those lessons can help you out better. Don't be discouraged. Do the exercises but try something else. If you have never done painting - give it a try. A different technique/approach might feel like a refreshment.
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I think I am like you. This is probably my... 8th year? I lost count. In my like... First 7 years I really disliked art. I know I wanted to draw, but I never enjoyed the process because improvement was so slow. I was good at many subjects in school, but art? I am a complete dunce at it. So, I think I relate to you a lot in wanting to draw, but not being able to learn how and also just... Getting frustrated by the process and with that, hating art. Personally, I had to reframe my approach to drawing. I'm still not the best, but I think I enjoy and improve at art better now cos of this. 1) Enjoy the process. Stop focusing on the result. Really let yourself relax and enjoy drawing. Whether that's rendering lighting or sketching the initial draft, focus on having fun and have patience. Throw out all your negative judgement. Just sit down and draw. I compare it to doing a hobby you really like. You don't think about being good at it, you just enjoy it cos it's fun and relaxing. Getting good at it is a side effect. Before, I just thought of 'making the next big piece'. Not so healthy when you put all the fun into a perfect result. Because all of us fail, a lot. 2) Have specific practice goals. It's more enjoyable when you have clear goals. Mine is usually something like: ->attempt lighting/shade studies from still-life for 15 mins And then maybe I'll draw whatever I want after that. It doesn't matter how my drawing session ends up. What matters is I reached my practice goals that day. That makes me feel more accomplished. That's my 2 cents. I'm no professional, but I felt compelled to reply cos you sound so much like me. I know it's a struggle, but if you want to make art (and if you're stubborn like me), you'll come back to that dream again and again.
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fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
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When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fld4jpa
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fle2hrk
| 1,585,056,362 | 1,585,076,364 | 3 | 11 |
Get good at analyzing your own art. Figure out *why* it "looks bad"
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I think I am like you. This is probably my... 8th year? I lost count. In my like... First 7 years I really disliked art. I know I wanted to draw, but I never enjoyed the process because improvement was so slow. I was good at many subjects in school, but art? I am a complete dunce at it. So, I think I relate to you a lot in wanting to draw, but not being able to learn how and also just... Getting frustrated by the process and with that, hating art. Personally, I had to reframe my approach to drawing. I'm still not the best, but I think I enjoy and improve at art better now cos of this. 1) Enjoy the process. Stop focusing on the result. Really let yourself relax and enjoy drawing. Whether that's rendering lighting or sketching the initial draft, focus on having fun and have patience. Throw out all your negative judgement. Just sit down and draw. I compare it to doing a hobby you really like. You don't think about being good at it, you just enjoy it cos it's fun and relaxing. Getting good at it is a side effect. Before, I just thought of 'making the next big piece'. Not so healthy when you put all the fun into a perfect result. Because all of us fail, a lot. 2) Have specific practice goals. It's more enjoyable when you have clear goals. Mine is usually something like: ->attempt lighting/shade studies from still-life for 15 mins And then maybe I'll draw whatever I want after that. It doesn't matter how my drawing session ends up. What matters is I reached my practice goals that day. That makes me feel more accomplished. That's my 2 cents. I'm no professional, but I felt compelled to reply cos you sound so much like me. I know it's a struggle, but if you want to make art (and if you're stubborn like me), you'll come back to that dream again and again.
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fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
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When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fle2hrk
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flddntg
| 1,585,076,364 | 1,585,062,378 | 11 | 4 |
I think I am like you. This is probably my... 8th year? I lost count. In my like... First 7 years I really disliked art. I know I wanted to draw, but I never enjoyed the process because improvement was so slow. I was good at many subjects in school, but art? I am a complete dunce at it. So, I think I relate to you a lot in wanting to draw, but not being able to learn how and also just... Getting frustrated by the process and with that, hating art. Personally, I had to reframe my approach to drawing. I'm still not the best, but I think I enjoy and improve at art better now cos of this. 1) Enjoy the process. Stop focusing on the result. Really let yourself relax and enjoy drawing. Whether that's rendering lighting or sketching the initial draft, focus on having fun and have patience. Throw out all your negative judgement. Just sit down and draw. I compare it to doing a hobby you really like. You don't think about being good at it, you just enjoy it cos it's fun and relaxing. Getting good at it is a side effect. Before, I just thought of 'making the next big piece'. Not so healthy when you put all the fun into a perfect result. Because all of us fail, a lot. 2) Have specific practice goals. It's more enjoyable when you have clear goals. Mine is usually something like: ->attempt lighting/shade studies from still-life for 15 mins And then maybe I'll draw whatever I want after that. It doesn't matter how my drawing session ends up. What matters is I reached my practice goals that day. That makes me feel more accomplished. That's my 2 cents. I'm no professional, but I felt compelled to reply cos you sound so much like me. I know it's a struggle, but if you want to make art (and if you're stubborn like me), you'll come back to that dream again and again.
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try other references!
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fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
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When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flclquk
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flcb7ma
| 1,585,035,999 | 1,585,024,960 | 10 | 9 |
Maybe thats just not the way your brain learnes. You could try to just draw from life or something.
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I know that feel. My personal philosophy is that every crappy drawing I do gets me closer to a good drawing. You may want to adjust your mindset when it comes to doing art because we all know motivation is a real problem for artists. I recommend a book called The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. It helped me immensely by putting things in perspective and setting tangible goals for my art.
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fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
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When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flca3mj
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flcb7ma
| 1,585,024,019 | 1,585,024,960 | 5 | 9 |
Uhm. It's gotta depend on what your goals are. Then plan milestones within that same goal. If you want, we can chat on Google Hangout, and we can figure it out. I have a bit of extra time now. Message me if you're interested. But yeah, it always comes down to clearly defined goals.
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I know that feel. My personal philosophy is that every crappy drawing I do gets me closer to a good drawing. You may want to adjust your mindset when it comes to doing art because we all know motivation is a real problem for artists. I recommend a book called The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. It helped me immensely by putting things in perspective and setting tangible goals for my art.
| 0 | 941 | 1.8 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcb7ma
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flbwi8b
| 1,585,024,960 | 1,585,014,235 | 9 | 4 |
I know that feel. My personal philosophy is that every crappy drawing I do gets me closer to a good drawing. You may want to adjust your mindset when it comes to doing art because we all know motivation is a real problem for artists. I recommend a book called The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. It helped me immensely by putting things in perspective and setting tangible goals for my art.
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Hm... I have to think about that. I am sorry you experience it like this. Would it help if I say that I struggle, too? I still everything everyone else does is so much better. I only started with the lessons but they are hard... You know what I think? Either you are trying to hard and you need to change the way you see things or you haven't found the right medium or style, yet. Maybe you are also not able to see little improvements.. I don't know you. For me I am still at the boxes and man those are hard. Rough perspective O.O what? But hey I hit the vanishing point twice just twice in the exercise. But there were small improvements. I somehow fail to believe that someone who practises their drawing does not at least in some way improve. I wish I could look at your progress and tell you that but maybe someone who has done those lessons can help you out better. Don't be discouraged. Do the exercises but try something else. If you have never done painting - give it a try. A different technique/approach might feel like a refreshment.
| 1 | 10,725 | 2.25 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flclquk
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flca3mj
| 1,585,035,999 | 1,585,024,019 | 10 | 5 |
Maybe thats just not the way your brain learnes. You could try to just draw from life or something.
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Uhm. It's gotta depend on what your goals are. Then plan milestones within that same goal. If you want, we can chat on Google Hangout, and we can figure it out. I have a bit of extra time now. Message me if you're interested. But yeah, it always comes down to clearly defined goals.
| 1 | 11,980 | 2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flbwi8b
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flclquk
| 1,585,014,235 | 1,585,035,999 | 4 | 10 |
Hm... I have to think about that. I am sorry you experience it like this. Would it help if I say that I struggle, too? I still everything everyone else does is so much better. I only started with the lessons but they are hard... You know what I think? Either you are trying to hard and you need to change the way you see things or you haven't found the right medium or style, yet. Maybe you are also not able to see little improvements.. I don't know you. For me I am still at the boxes and man those are hard. Rough perspective O.O what? But hey I hit the vanishing point twice just twice in the exercise. But there were small improvements. I somehow fail to believe that someone who practises their drawing does not at least in some way improve. I wish I could look at your progress and tell you that but maybe someone who has done those lessons can help you out better. Don't be discouraged. Do the exercises but try something else. If you have never done painting - give it a try. A different technique/approach might feel like a refreshment.
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Maybe thats just not the way your brain learnes. You could try to just draw from life or something.
| 0 | 21,764 | 2.5 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fleak2j
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fld2q3l
| 1,585,080,680 | 1,585,054,978 | 8 | 6 |
Don't do anything you don't enjoy doing.
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I'm a painter and I stress really hard sometimes when it isn't looking right. I tell myself this like a meditation. "If it doesn't look good it's not a failure, it's just not finished yet"
| 1 | 25,702 | 1.333333 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fld2q3l
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flf0p5m
| 1,585,054,978 | 1,585,095,453 | 6 | 7 |
I'm a painter and I stress really hard sometimes when it isn't looking right. I tell myself this like a meditation. "If it doesn't look good it's not a failure, it's just not finished yet"
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What made you want to start learning to draw five years ago? Was it so you could master boxes and straight lines and ellipses? Or was it that you were inspired by the art around you and you wanted a part of that? I appreciate how Draw a Box has demystified drawing into lessons that anyone can understand, but I dislike that it reduces something so personal and beautiful into it's smallest, dryest parts. Drawing is just boxes/lines in the same way that math is just numbers or music is just notes. It's an incomplete picture and honestly, I wonder if it isn't an inside out approach to learning. I say this as a professional artist by the way. If you took 12-year-old me, took away her comics and doodles, put a blank piece of paper in front of her and told her she had to master the box in perspective before she was allowed to draw anything else, I'd have quit too. Art is felt by everyone, not just artists, because it's more than the rules and lines and squares it's made of. It's ok to draw without making it into some kind of lesson/practice. It's ok to break every drawing rule you were taught. It's ok to quit for a while too. Studying art and grinding is a part of the learning process but if it's making you stressed and unhappy it's doing more harm than good. When I'm burnt out I find it helpful to take a break from being a creator and enjoy being a consumer. Reading, watching the things I like to see, looking at art without comparing it to my own. I'd also really recommend these two resources if you have time: The Mathematician's Lament and Music is a Language. They both talk about how we learn math/music, and why the standard schoolbook approach takes away from the creativity and joy each offers.
| 0 | 40,475 | 1.166667 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcptwf
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fld2q3l
| 1,585,041,213 | 1,585,054,978 | 5 | 6 |
Have you tried taking lessons? Serious question. I used to have problem also with tutorial until I started taking lessons.
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I'm a painter and I stress really hard sometimes when it isn't looking right. I tell myself this like a meditation. "If it doesn't look good it's not a failure, it's just not finished yet"
| 0 | 13,765 | 1.2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fld2q3l
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flcz42g
| 1,585,054,978 | 1,585,051,927 | 6 | 5 |
I'm a painter and I stress really hard sometimes when it isn't looking right. I tell myself this like a meditation. "If it doesn't look good it's not a failure, it's just not finished yet"
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Do you have links to your Lessons 1 & 2 submissions?
| 1 | 3,051 | 1.2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fld2q3l
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flca3mj
| 1,585,054,978 | 1,585,024,019 | 6 | 5 |
I'm a painter and I stress really hard sometimes when it isn't looking right. I tell myself this like a meditation. "If it doesn't look good it's not a failure, it's just not finished yet"
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Uhm. It's gotta depend on what your goals are. Then plan milestones within that same goal. If you want, we can chat on Google Hangout, and we can figure it out. I have a bit of extra time now. Message me if you're interested. But yeah, it always comes down to clearly defined goals.
| 1 | 30,959 | 1.2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcp9br
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fld2q3l
| 1,585,040,468 | 1,585,054,978 | 5 | 6 |
Sometimes when I went further, id do poorly in one area and decide to go back through some sections, do it again, try to think more about it, and I found it helped a good bit. Getting frustrated that "its wrong" is natural, but its important to ask *why* and *where* its wrong, its important to think through things with drawing. Sometimes it also helps to change to a different subject/method in general. These aren't just skills you practice and master in one go, you build, build, and build them.
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I'm a painter and I stress really hard sometimes when it isn't looking right. I tell myself this like a meditation. "If it doesn't look good it's not a failure, it's just not finished yet"
| 0 | 14,510 | 1.2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fld2q3l
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flbwi8b
| 1,585,054,978 | 1,585,014,235 | 6 | 4 |
I'm a painter and I stress really hard sometimes when it isn't looking right. I tell myself this like a meditation. "If it doesn't look good it's not a failure, it's just not finished yet"
|
Hm... I have to think about that. I am sorry you experience it like this. Would it help if I say that I struggle, too? I still everything everyone else does is so much better. I only started with the lessons but they are hard... You know what I think? Either you are trying to hard and you need to change the way you see things or you haven't found the right medium or style, yet. Maybe you are also not able to see little improvements.. I don't know you. For me I am still at the boxes and man those are hard. Rough perspective O.O what? But hey I hit the vanishing point twice just twice in the exercise. But there were small improvements. I somehow fail to believe that someone who practises their drawing does not at least in some way improve. I wish I could look at your progress and tell you that but maybe someone who has done those lessons can help you out better. Don't be discouraged. Do the exercises but try something else. If you have never done painting - give it a try. A different technique/approach might feel like a refreshment.
| 1 | 40,743 | 1.5 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fleak2j
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fldv3wt
| 1,585,080,680 | 1,585,072,297 | 8 | 6 |
Don't do anything you don't enjoy doing.
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Sometimes I stop drawing for months because I’m just not feeling it. So if you really don’t feel like it, you shouldn’t force yourself. I always pick up the pencil and draw if I suddenly think of something cool or fun to draw, just for myself. Don’t draw for other people. I also struggled with the “Every time I draw it looks awful.” What I realized though is that when you achieve even one thing that looks ok, it’s super inspiring. You set really high expectations of yourself whenever you start training a new skill. You think “Why can’t I just draw like them or make something that actually looks good?”. I’ve found it important to not base your drawings off of other people’s drawings but, first just try recreating stuff you see around you. Even if its just shapes. I’d definitely recommend looking up contour drawing. The course I took started me with that and I believe it helped me get over that “I can only draw stickmen” phase.
| 1 | 8,383 | 1.333333 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fldv3wt
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flf0p5m
| 1,585,072,297 | 1,585,095,453 | 6 | 7 |
Sometimes I stop drawing for months because I’m just not feeling it. So if you really don’t feel like it, you shouldn’t force yourself. I always pick up the pencil and draw if I suddenly think of something cool or fun to draw, just for myself. Don’t draw for other people. I also struggled with the “Every time I draw it looks awful.” What I realized though is that when you achieve even one thing that looks ok, it’s super inspiring. You set really high expectations of yourself whenever you start training a new skill. You think “Why can’t I just draw like them or make something that actually looks good?”. I’ve found it important to not base your drawings off of other people’s drawings but, first just try recreating stuff you see around you. Even if its just shapes. I’d definitely recommend looking up contour drawing. The course I took started me with that and I believe it helped me get over that “I can only draw stickmen” phase.
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What made you want to start learning to draw five years ago? Was it so you could master boxes and straight lines and ellipses? Or was it that you were inspired by the art around you and you wanted a part of that? I appreciate how Draw a Box has demystified drawing into lessons that anyone can understand, but I dislike that it reduces something so personal and beautiful into it's smallest, dryest parts. Drawing is just boxes/lines in the same way that math is just numbers or music is just notes. It's an incomplete picture and honestly, I wonder if it isn't an inside out approach to learning. I say this as a professional artist by the way. If you took 12-year-old me, took away her comics and doodles, put a blank piece of paper in front of her and told her she had to master the box in perspective before she was allowed to draw anything else, I'd have quit too. Art is felt by everyone, not just artists, because it's more than the rules and lines and squares it's made of. It's ok to draw without making it into some kind of lesson/practice. It's ok to break every drawing rule you were taught. It's ok to quit for a while too. Studying art and grinding is a part of the learning process but if it's making you stressed and unhappy it's doing more harm than good. When I'm burnt out I find it helpful to take a break from being a creator and enjoy being a consumer. Reading, watching the things I like to see, looking at art without comparing it to my own. I'd also really recommend these two resources if you have time: The Mathematician's Lament and Music is a Language. They both talk about how we learn math/music, and why the standard schoolbook approach takes away from the creativity and joy each offers.
| 0 | 23,156 | 1.166667 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcptwf
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fldv3wt
| 1,585,041,213 | 1,585,072,297 | 5 | 6 |
Have you tried taking lessons? Serious question. I used to have problem also with tutorial until I started taking lessons.
|
Sometimes I stop drawing for months because I’m just not feeling it. So if you really don’t feel like it, you shouldn’t force yourself. I always pick up the pencil and draw if I suddenly think of something cool or fun to draw, just for myself. Don’t draw for other people. I also struggled with the “Every time I draw it looks awful.” What I realized though is that when you achieve even one thing that looks ok, it’s super inspiring. You set really high expectations of yourself whenever you start training a new skill. You think “Why can’t I just draw like them or make something that actually looks good?”. I’ve found it important to not base your drawings off of other people’s drawings but, first just try recreating stuff you see around you. Even if its just shapes. I’d definitely recommend looking up contour drawing. The course I took started me with that and I believe it helped me get over that “I can only draw stickmen” phase.
| 0 | 31,084 | 1.2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcz42g
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fldv3wt
| 1,585,051,927 | 1,585,072,297 | 5 | 6 |
Do you have links to your Lessons 1 & 2 submissions?
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Sometimes I stop drawing for months because I’m just not feeling it. So if you really don’t feel like it, you shouldn’t force yourself. I always pick up the pencil and draw if I suddenly think of something cool or fun to draw, just for myself. Don’t draw for other people. I also struggled with the “Every time I draw it looks awful.” What I realized though is that when you achieve even one thing that looks ok, it’s super inspiring. You set really high expectations of yourself whenever you start training a new skill. You think “Why can’t I just draw like them or make something that actually looks good?”. I’ve found it important to not base your drawings off of other people’s drawings but, first just try recreating stuff you see around you. Even if its just shapes. I’d definitely recommend looking up contour drawing. The course I took started me with that and I believe it helped me get over that “I can only draw stickmen” phase.
| 0 | 20,370 | 1.2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flca3mj
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fldv3wt
| 1,585,024,019 | 1,585,072,297 | 5 | 6 |
Uhm. It's gotta depend on what your goals are. Then plan milestones within that same goal. If you want, we can chat on Google Hangout, and we can figure it out. I have a bit of extra time now. Message me if you're interested. But yeah, it always comes down to clearly defined goals.
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Sometimes I stop drawing for months because I’m just not feeling it. So if you really don’t feel like it, you shouldn’t force yourself. I always pick up the pencil and draw if I suddenly think of something cool or fun to draw, just for myself. Don’t draw for other people. I also struggled with the “Every time I draw it looks awful.” What I realized though is that when you achieve even one thing that looks ok, it’s super inspiring. You set really high expectations of yourself whenever you start training a new skill. You think “Why can’t I just draw like them or make something that actually looks good?”. I’ve found it important to not base your drawings off of other people’s drawings but, first just try recreating stuff you see around you. Even if its just shapes. I’d definitely recommend looking up contour drawing. The course I took started me with that and I believe it helped me get over that “I can only draw stickmen” phase.
| 0 | 48,278 | 1.2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fldv3wt
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flcp9br
| 1,585,072,297 | 1,585,040,468 | 6 | 5 |
Sometimes I stop drawing for months because I’m just not feeling it. So if you really don’t feel like it, you shouldn’t force yourself. I always pick up the pencil and draw if I suddenly think of something cool or fun to draw, just for myself. Don’t draw for other people. I also struggled with the “Every time I draw it looks awful.” What I realized though is that when you achieve even one thing that looks ok, it’s super inspiring. You set really high expectations of yourself whenever you start training a new skill. You think “Why can’t I just draw like them or make something that actually looks good?”. I’ve found it important to not base your drawings off of other people’s drawings but, first just try recreating stuff you see around you. Even if its just shapes. I’d definitely recommend looking up contour drawing. The course I took started me with that and I believe it helped me get over that “I can only draw stickmen” phase.
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Sometimes when I went further, id do poorly in one area and decide to go back through some sections, do it again, try to think more about it, and I found it helped a good bit. Getting frustrated that "its wrong" is natural, but its important to ask *why* and *where* its wrong, its important to think through things with drawing. Sometimes it also helps to change to a different subject/method in general. These aren't just skills you practice and master in one go, you build, build, and build them.
| 1 | 31,829 | 1.2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flbwi8b
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fldv3wt
| 1,585,014,235 | 1,585,072,297 | 4 | 6 |
Hm... I have to think about that. I am sorry you experience it like this. Would it help if I say that I struggle, too? I still everything everyone else does is so much better. I only started with the lessons but they are hard... You know what I think? Either you are trying to hard and you need to change the way you see things or you haven't found the right medium or style, yet. Maybe you are also not able to see little improvements.. I don't know you. For me I am still at the boxes and man those are hard. Rough perspective O.O what? But hey I hit the vanishing point twice just twice in the exercise. But there were small improvements. I somehow fail to believe that someone who practises their drawing does not at least in some way improve. I wish I could look at your progress and tell you that but maybe someone who has done those lessons can help you out better. Don't be discouraged. Do the exercises but try something else. If you have never done painting - give it a try. A different technique/approach might feel like a refreshment.
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Sometimes I stop drawing for months because I’m just not feeling it. So if you really don’t feel like it, you shouldn’t force yourself. I always pick up the pencil and draw if I suddenly think of something cool or fun to draw, just for myself. Don’t draw for other people. I also struggled with the “Every time I draw it looks awful.” What I realized though is that when you achieve even one thing that looks ok, it’s super inspiring. You set really high expectations of yourself whenever you start training a new skill. You think “Why can’t I just draw like them or make something that actually looks good?”. I’ve found it important to not base your drawings off of other people’s drawings but, first just try recreating stuff you see around you. Even if its just shapes. I’d definitely recommend looking up contour drawing. The course I took started me with that and I believe it helped me get over that “I can only draw stickmen” phase.
| 0 | 58,062 | 1.5 | ||
fnwdtf
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fld4jpa
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fldv3wt
| 1,585,056,362 | 1,585,072,297 | 3 | 6 |
Get good at analyzing your own art. Figure out *why* it "looks bad"
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Sometimes I stop drawing for months because I’m just not feeling it. So if you really don’t feel like it, you shouldn’t force yourself. I always pick up the pencil and draw if I suddenly think of something cool or fun to draw, just for myself. Don’t draw for other people. I also struggled with the “Every time I draw it looks awful.” What I realized though is that when you achieve even one thing that looks ok, it’s super inspiring. You set really high expectations of yourself whenever you start training a new skill. You think “Why can’t I just draw like them or make something that actually looks good?”. I’ve found it important to not base your drawings off of other people’s drawings but, first just try recreating stuff you see around you. Even if its just shapes. I’d definitely recommend looking up contour drawing. The course I took started me with that and I believe it helped me get over that “I can only draw stickmen” phase.
| 0 | 15,935 | 2 | ||
fnwdtf
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flddntg
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fldv3wt
| 1,585,062,378 | 1,585,072,297 | 4 | 6 |
try other references!
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Sometimes I stop drawing for months because I’m just not feeling it. So if you really don’t feel like it, you shouldn’t force yourself. I always pick up the pencil and draw if I suddenly think of something cool or fun to draw, just for myself. Don’t draw for other people. I also struggled with the “Every time I draw it looks awful.” What I realized though is that when you achieve even one thing that looks ok, it’s super inspiring. You set really high expectations of yourself whenever you start training a new skill. You think “Why can’t I just draw like them or make something that actually looks good?”. I’ve found it important to not base your drawings off of other people’s drawings but, first just try recreating stuff you see around you. Even if its just shapes. I’d definitely recommend looking up contour drawing. The course I took started me with that and I believe it helped me get over that “I can only draw stickmen” phase.
| 0 | 9,919 | 1.5 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fleak2j
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flcptwf
| 1,585,080,680 | 1,585,041,213 | 8 | 5 |
Don't do anything you don't enjoy doing.
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Have you tried taking lessons? Serious question. I used to have problem also with tutorial until I started taking lessons.
| 1 | 39,467 | 1.6 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcz42g
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fleak2j
| 1,585,051,927 | 1,585,080,680 | 5 | 8 |
Do you have links to your Lessons 1 & 2 submissions?
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Don't do anything you don't enjoy doing.
| 0 | 28,753 | 1.6 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fleak2j
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fldjqan
| 1,585,080,680 | 1,585,065,912 | 8 | 6 |
Don't do anything you don't enjoy doing.
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I say as long as you want it, to continue to try. I've drawn since I was 6 years old. Got a degree in drawing and everything. It's not an easy thing. I'll tell you right now in college I constantly questioned if this is what I wanted and it gave me so much stress and unhappiness. After I graduated things started to click and I started to get really good. If you need help, shoot me a dm I'll try to give you some advice! Good luck!
| 1 | 14,768 | 1.333333 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flca3mj
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fleak2j
| 1,585,024,019 | 1,585,080,680 | 5 | 8 |
Uhm. It's gotta depend on what your goals are. Then plan milestones within that same goal. If you want, we can chat on Google Hangout, and we can figure it out. I have a bit of extra time now. Message me if you're interested. But yeah, it always comes down to clearly defined goals.
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Don't do anything you don't enjoy doing.
| 0 | 56,661 | 1.6 | ||
fnwdtf
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcp9br
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fleak2j
| 1,585,040,468 | 1,585,080,680 | 5 | 8 |
Sometimes when I went further, id do poorly in one area and decide to go back through some sections, do it again, try to think more about it, and I found it helped a good bit. Getting frustrated that "its wrong" is natural, but its important to ask *why* and *where* its wrong, its important to think through things with drawing. Sometimes it also helps to change to a different subject/method in general. These aren't just skills you practice and master in one go, you build, build, and build them.
|
Don't do anything you don't enjoy doing.
| 0 | 40,212 | 1.6 | ||
fnwdtf
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fleak2j
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flbwi8b
| 1,585,080,680 | 1,585,014,235 | 8 | 4 |
Don't do anything you don't enjoy doing.
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Hm... I have to think about that. I am sorry you experience it like this. Would it help if I say that I struggle, too? I still everything everyone else does is so much better. I only started with the lessons but they are hard... You know what I think? Either you are trying to hard and you need to change the way you see things or you haven't found the right medium or style, yet. Maybe you are also not able to see little improvements.. I don't know you. For me I am still at the boxes and man those are hard. Rough perspective O.O what? But hey I hit the vanishing point twice just twice in the exercise. But there were small improvements. I somehow fail to believe that someone who practises their drawing does not at least in some way improve. I wish I could look at your progress and tell you that but maybe someone who has done those lessons can help you out better. Don't be discouraged. Do the exercises but try something else. If you have never done painting - give it a try. A different technique/approach might feel like a refreshment.
| 1 | 66,445 | 2 | ||
fnwdtf
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fleak2j
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fld4jpa
| 1,585,080,680 | 1,585,056,362 | 8 | 3 |
Don't do anything you don't enjoy doing.
|
Get good at analyzing your own art. Figure out *why* it "looks bad"
| 1 | 24,318 | 2.666667 | ||
fnwdtf
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flddntg
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fleak2j
| 1,585,062,378 | 1,585,080,680 | 4 | 8 |
try other references!
|
Don't do anything you don't enjoy doing.
| 0 | 18,302 | 2 | ||
fnwdtf
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
|
flcptwf
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flf0p5m
| 1,585,041,213 | 1,585,095,453 | 5 | 7 |
Have you tried taking lessons? Serious question. I used to have problem also with tutorial until I started taking lessons.
|
What made you want to start learning to draw five years ago? Was it so you could master boxes and straight lines and ellipses? Or was it that you were inspired by the art around you and you wanted a part of that? I appreciate how Draw a Box has demystified drawing into lessons that anyone can understand, but I dislike that it reduces something so personal and beautiful into it's smallest, dryest parts. Drawing is just boxes/lines in the same way that math is just numbers or music is just notes. It's an incomplete picture and honestly, I wonder if it isn't an inside out approach to learning. I say this as a professional artist by the way. If you took 12-year-old me, took away her comics and doodles, put a blank piece of paper in front of her and told her she had to master the box in perspective before she was allowed to draw anything else, I'd have quit too. Art is felt by everyone, not just artists, because it's more than the rules and lines and squares it's made of. It's ok to draw without making it into some kind of lesson/practice. It's ok to break every drawing rule you were taught. It's ok to quit for a while too. Studying art and grinding is a part of the learning process but if it's making you stressed and unhappy it's doing more harm than good. When I'm burnt out I find it helpful to take a break from being a creator and enjoy being a consumer. Reading, watching the things I like to see, looking at art without comparing it to my own. I'd also really recommend these two resources if you have time: The Mathematician's Lament and Music is a Language. They both talk about how we learn math/music, and why the standard schoolbook approach takes away from the creativity and joy each offers.
| 0 | 54,240 | 1.4 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcz42g
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flf0p5m
| 1,585,051,927 | 1,585,095,453 | 5 | 7 |
Do you have links to your Lessons 1 & 2 submissions?
|
What made you want to start learning to draw five years ago? Was it so you could master boxes and straight lines and ellipses? Or was it that you were inspired by the art around you and you wanted a part of that? I appreciate how Draw a Box has demystified drawing into lessons that anyone can understand, but I dislike that it reduces something so personal and beautiful into it's smallest, dryest parts. Drawing is just boxes/lines in the same way that math is just numbers or music is just notes. It's an incomplete picture and honestly, I wonder if it isn't an inside out approach to learning. I say this as a professional artist by the way. If you took 12-year-old me, took away her comics and doodles, put a blank piece of paper in front of her and told her she had to master the box in perspective before she was allowed to draw anything else, I'd have quit too. Art is felt by everyone, not just artists, because it's more than the rules and lines and squares it's made of. It's ok to draw without making it into some kind of lesson/practice. It's ok to break every drawing rule you were taught. It's ok to quit for a while too. Studying art and grinding is a part of the learning process but if it's making you stressed and unhappy it's doing more harm than good. When I'm burnt out I find it helpful to take a break from being a creator and enjoy being a consumer. Reading, watching the things I like to see, looking at art without comparing it to my own. I'd also really recommend these two resources if you have time: The Mathematician's Lament and Music is a Language. They both talk about how we learn math/music, and why the standard schoolbook approach takes away from the creativity and joy each offers.
| 0 | 43,526 | 1.4 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flf0p5m
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fldjqan
| 1,585,095,453 | 1,585,065,912 | 7 | 6 |
What made you want to start learning to draw five years ago? Was it so you could master boxes and straight lines and ellipses? Or was it that you were inspired by the art around you and you wanted a part of that? I appreciate how Draw a Box has demystified drawing into lessons that anyone can understand, but I dislike that it reduces something so personal and beautiful into it's smallest, dryest parts. Drawing is just boxes/lines in the same way that math is just numbers or music is just notes. It's an incomplete picture and honestly, I wonder if it isn't an inside out approach to learning. I say this as a professional artist by the way. If you took 12-year-old me, took away her comics and doodles, put a blank piece of paper in front of her and told her she had to master the box in perspective before she was allowed to draw anything else, I'd have quit too. Art is felt by everyone, not just artists, because it's more than the rules and lines and squares it's made of. It's ok to draw without making it into some kind of lesson/practice. It's ok to break every drawing rule you were taught. It's ok to quit for a while too. Studying art and grinding is a part of the learning process but if it's making you stressed and unhappy it's doing more harm than good. When I'm burnt out I find it helpful to take a break from being a creator and enjoy being a consumer. Reading, watching the things I like to see, looking at art without comparing it to my own. I'd also really recommend these two resources if you have time: The Mathematician's Lament and Music is a Language. They both talk about how we learn math/music, and why the standard schoolbook approach takes away from the creativity and joy each offers.
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I say as long as you want it, to continue to try. I've drawn since I was 6 years old. Got a degree in drawing and everything. It's not an easy thing. I'll tell you right now in college I constantly questioned if this is what I wanted and it gave me so much stress and unhappiness. After I graduated things started to click and I started to get really good. If you need help, shoot me a dm I'll try to give you some advice! Good luck!
| 1 | 29,541 | 1.166667 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flca3mj
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flf0p5m
| 1,585,024,019 | 1,585,095,453 | 5 | 7 |
Uhm. It's gotta depend on what your goals are. Then plan milestones within that same goal. If you want, we can chat on Google Hangout, and we can figure it out. I have a bit of extra time now. Message me if you're interested. But yeah, it always comes down to clearly defined goals.
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What made you want to start learning to draw five years ago? Was it so you could master boxes and straight lines and ellipses? Or was it that you were inspired by the art around you and you wanted a part of that? I appreciate how Draw a Box has demystified drawing into lessons that anyone can understand, but I dislike that it reduces something so personal and beautiful into it's smallest, dryest parts. Drawing is just boxes/lines in the same way that math is just numbers or music is just notes. It's an incomplete picture and honestly, I wonder if it isn't an inside out approach to learning. I say this as a professional artist by the way. If you took 12-year-old me, took away her comics and doodles, put a blank piece of paper in front of her and told her she had to master the box in perspective before she was allowed to draw anything else, I'd have quit too. Art is felt by everyone, not just artists, because it's more than the rules and lines and squares it's made of. It's ok to draw without making it into some kind of lesson/practice. It's ok to break every drawing rule you were taught. It's ok to quit for a while too. Studying art and grinding is a part of the learning process but if it's making you stressed and unhappy it's doing more harm than good. When I'm burnt out I find it helpful to take a break from being a creator and enjoy being a consumer. Reading, watching the things I like to see, looking at art without comparing it to my own. I'd also really recommend these two resources if you have time: The Mathematician's Lament and Music is a Language. They both talk about how we learn math/music, and why the standard schoolbook approach takes away from the creativity and joy each offers.
| 0 | 71,434 | 1.4 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flf0p5m
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flcp9br
| 1,585,095,453 | 1,585,040,468 | 7 | 5 |
What made you want to start learning to draw five years ago? Was it so you could master boxes and straight lines and ellipses? Or was it that you were inspired by the art around you and you wanted a part of that? I appreciate how Draw a Box has demystified drawing into lessons that anyone can understand, but I dislike that it reduces something so personal and beautiful into it's smallest, dryest parts. Drawing is just boxes/lines in the same way that math is just numbers or music is just notes. It's an incomplete picture and honestly, I wonder if it isn't an inside out approach to learning. I say this as a professional artist by the way. If you took 12-year-old me, took away her comics and doodles, put a blank piece of paper in front of her and told her she had to master the box in perspective before she was allowed to draw anything else, I'd have quit too. Art is felt by everyone, not just artists, because it's more than the rules and lines and squares it's made of. It's ok to draw without making it into some kind of lesson/practice. It's ok to break every drawing rule you were taught. It's ok to quit for a while too. Studying art and grinding is a part of the learning process but if it's making you stressed and unhappy it's doing more harm than good. When I'm burnt out I find it helpful to take a break from being a creator and enjoy being a consumer. Reading, watching the things I like to see, looking at art without comparing it to my own. I'd also really recommend these two resources if you have time: The Mathematician's Lament and Music is a Language. They both talk about how we learn math/music, and why the standard schoolbook approach takes away from the creativity and joy each offers.
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Sometimes when I went further, id do poorly in one area and decide to go back through some sections, do it again, try to think more about it, and I found it helped a good bit. Getting frustrated that "its wrong" is natural, but its important to ask *why* and *where* its wrong, its important to think through things with drawing. Sometimes it also helps to change to a different subject/method in general. These aren't just skills you practice and master in one go, you build, build, and build them.
| 1 | 54,985 | 1.4 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flbwi8b
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flf0p5m
| 1,585,014,235 | 1,585,095,453 | 4 | 7 |
Hm... I have to think about that. I am sorry you experience it like this. Would it help if I say that I struggle, too? I still everything everyone else does is so much better. I only started with the lessons but they are hard... You know what I think? Either you are trying to hard and you need to change the way you see things or you haven't found the right medium or style, yet. Maybe you are also not able to see little improvements.. I don't know you. For me I am still at the boxes and man those are hard. Rough perspective O.O what? But hey I hit the vanishing point twice just twice in the exercise. But there were small improvements. I somehow fail to believe that someone who practises their drawing does not at least in some way improve. I wish I could look at your progress and tell you that but maybe someone who has done those lessons can help you out better. Don't be discouraged. Do the exercises but try something else. If you have never done painting - give it a try. A different technique/approach might feel like a refreshment.
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What made you want to start learning to draw five years ago? Was it so you could master boxes and straight lines and ellipses? Or was it that you were inspired by the art around you and you wanted a part of that? I appreciate how Draw a Box has demystified drawing into lessons that anyone can understand, but I dislike that it reduces something so personal and beautiful into it's smallest, dryest parts. Drawing is just boxes/lines in the same way that math is just numbers or music is just notes. It's an incomplete picture and honestly, I wonder if it isn't an inside out approach to learning. I say this as a professional artist by the way. If you took 12-year-old me, took away her comics and doodles, put a blank piece of paper in front of her and told her she had to master the box in perspective before she was allowed to draw anything else, I'd have quit too. Art is felt by everyone, not just artists, because it's more than the rules and lines and squares it's made of. It's ok to draw without making it into some kind of lesson/practice. It's ok to break every drawing rule you were taught. It's ok to quit for a while too. Studying art and grinding is a part of the learning process but if it's making you stressed and unhappy it's doing more harm than good. When I'm burnt out I find it helpful to take a break from being a creator and enjoy being a consumer. Reading, watching the things I like to see, looking at art without comparing it to my own. I'd also really recommend these two resources if you have time: The Mathematician's Lament and Music is a Language. They both talk about how we learn math/music, and why the standard schoolbook approach takes away from the creativity and joy each offers.
| 0 | 81,218 | 1.75 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flf0p5m
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fld4jpa
| 1,585,095,453 | 1,585,056,362 | 7 | 3 |
What made you want to start learning to draw five years ago? Was it so you could master boxes and straight lines and ellipses? Or was it that you were inspired by the art around you and you wanted a part of that? I appreciate how Draw a Box has demystified drawing into lessons that anyone can understand, but I dislike that it reduces something so personal and beautiful into it's smallest, dryest parts. Drawing is just boxes/lines in the same way that math is just numbers or music is just notes. It's an incomplete picture and honestly, I wonder if it isn't an inside out approach to learning. I say this as a professional artist by the way. If you took 12-year-old me, took away her comics and doodles, put a blank piece of paper in front of her and told her she had to master the box in perspective before she was allowed to draw anything else, I'd have quit too. Art is felt by everyone, not just artists, because it's more than the rules and lines and squares it's made of. It's ok to draw without making it into some kind of lesson/practice. It's ok to break every drawing rule you were taught. It's ok to quit for a while too. Studying art and grinding is a part of the learning process but if it's making you stressed and unhappy it's doing more harm than good. When I'm burnt out I find it helpful to take a break from being a creator and enjoy being a consumer. Reading, watching the things I like to see, looking at art without comparing it to my own. I'd also really recommend these two resources if you have time: The Mathematician's Lament and Music is a Language. They both talk about how we learn math/music, and why the standard schoolbook approach takes away from the creativity and joy each offers.
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Get good at analyzing your own art. Figure out *why* it "looks bad"
| 1 | 39,091 | 2.333333 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flf0p5m
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flddntg
| 1,585,095,453 | 1,585,062,378 | 7 | 4 |
What made you want to start learning to draw five years ago? Was it so you could master boxes and straight lines and ellipses? Or was it that you were inspired by the art around you and you wanted a part of that? I appreciate how Draw a Box has demystified drawing into lessons that anyone can understand, but I dislike that it reduces something so personal and beautiful into it's smallest, dryest parts. Drawing is just boxes/lines in the same way that math is just numbers or music is just notes. It's an incomplete picture and honestly, I wonder if it isn't an inside out approach to learning. I say this as a professional artist by the way. If you took 12-year-old me, took away her comics and doodles, put a blank piece of paper in front of her and told her she had to master the box in perspective before she was allowed to draw anything else, I'd have quit too. Art is felt by everyone, not just artists, because it's more than the rules and lines and squares it's made of. It's ok to draw without making it into some kind of lesson/practice. It's ok to break every drawing rule you were taught. It's ok to quit for a while too. Studying art and grinding is a part of the learning process but if it's making you stressed and unhappy it's doing more harm than good. When I'm burnt out I find it helpful to take a break from being a creator and enjoy being a consumer. Reading, watching the things I like to see, looking at art without comparing it to my own. I'd also really recommend these two resources if you have time: The Mathematician's Lament and Music is a Language. They both talk about how we learn math/music, and why the standard schoolbook approach takes away from the creativity and joy each offers.
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try other references!
| 1 | 33,075 | 1.75 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcptwf
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fldjqan
| 1,585,041,213 | 1,585,065,912 | 5 | 6 |
Have you tried taking lessons? Serious question. I used to have problem also with tutorial until I started taking lessons.
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I say as long as you want it, to continue to try. I've drawn since I was 6 years old. Got a degree in drawing and everything. It's not an easy thing. I'll tell you right now in college I constantly questioned if this is what I wanted and it gave me so much stress and unhappiness. After I graduated things started to click and I started to get really good. If you need help, shoot me a dm I'll try to give you some advice! Good luck!
| 0 | 24,699 | 1.2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcptwf
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flbwi8b
| 1,585,041,213 | 1,585,014,235 | 5 | 4 |
Have you tried taking lessons? Serious question. I used to have problem also with tutorial until I started taking lessons.
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Hm... I have to think about that. I am sorry you experience it like this. Would it help if I say that I struggle, too? I still everything everyone else does is so much better. I only started with the lessons but they are hard... You know what I think? Either you are trying to hard and you need to change the way you see things or you haven't found the right medium or style, yet. Maybe you are also not able to see little improvements.. I don't know you. For me I am still at the boxes and man those are hard. Rough perspective O.O what? But hey I hit the vanishing point twice just twice in the exercise. But there were small improvements. I somehow fail to believe that someone who practises their drawing does not at least in some way improve. I wish I could look at your progress and tell you that but maybe someone who has done those lessons can help you out better. Don't be discouraged. Do the exercises but try something else. If you have never done painting - give it a try. A different technique/approach might feel like a refreshment.
| 1 | 26,978 | 1.25 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fldjqan
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flcz42g
| 1,585,065,912 | 1,585,051,927 | 6 | 5 |
I say as long as you want it, to continue to try. I've drawn since I was 6 years old. Got a degree in drawing and everything. It's not an easy thing. I'll tell you right now in college I constantly questioned if this is what I wanted and it gave me so much stress and unhappiness. After I graduated things started to click and I started to get really good. If you need help, shoot me a dm I'll try to give you some advice! Good luck!
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Do you have links to your Lessons 1 & 2 submissions?
| 1 | 13,985 | 1.2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flcz42g
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flbwi8b
| 1,585,051,927 | 1,585,014,235 | 5 | 4 |
Do you have links to your Lessons 1 & 2 submissions?
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Hm... I have to think about that. I am sorry you experience it like this. Would it help if I say that I struggle, too? I still everything everyone else does is so much better. I only started with the lessons but they are hard... You know what I think? Either you are trying to hard and you need to change the way you see things or you haven't found the right medium or style, yet. Maybe you are also not able to see little improvements.. I don't know you. For me I am still at the boxes and man those are hard. Rough perspective O.O what? But hey I hit the vanishing point twice just twice in the exercise. But there were small improvements. I somehow fail to believe that someone who practises their drawing does not at least in some way improve. I wish I could look at your progress and tell you that but maybe someone who has done those lessons can help you out better. Don't be discouraged. Do the exercises but try something else. If you have never done painting - give it a try. A different technique/approach might feel like a refreshment.
| 1 | 37,692 | 1.25 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flca3mj
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fldjqan
| 1,585,024,019 | 1,585,065,912 | 5 | 6 |
Uhm. It's gotta depend on what your goals are. Then plan milestones within that same goal. If you want, we can chat on Google Hangout, and we can figure it out. I have a bit of extra time now. Message me if you're interested. But yeah, it always comes down to clearly defined goals.
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I say as long as you want it, to continue to try. I've drawn since I was 6 years old. Got a degree in drawing and everything. It's not an easy thing. I'll tell you right now in college I constantly questioned if this is what I wanted and it gave me so much stress and unhappiness. After I graduated things started to click and I started to get really good. If you need help, shoot me a dm I'll try to give you some advice! Good luck!
| 0 | 41,893 | 1.2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fldjqan
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flcp9br
| 1,585,065,912 | 1,585,040,468 | 6 | 5 |
I say as long as you want it, to continue to try. I've drawn since I was 6 years old. Got a degree in drawing and everything. It's not an easy thing. I'll tell you right now in college I constantly questioned if this is what I wanted and it gave me so much stress and unhappiness. After I graduated things started to click and I started to get really good. If you need help, shoot me a dm I'll try to give you some advice! Good luck!
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Sometimes when I went further, id do poorly in one area and decide to go back through some sections, do it again, try to think more about it, and I found it helped a good bit. Getting frustrated that "its wrong" is natural, but its important to ask *why* and *where* its wrong, its important to think through things with drawing. Sometimes it also helps to change to a different subject/method in general. These aren't just skills you practice and master in one go, you build, build, and build them.
| 1 | 25,444 | 1.2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flbwi8b
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fldjqan
| 1,585,014,235 | 1,585,065,912 | 4 | 6 |
Hm... I have to think about that. I am sorry you experience it like this. Would it help if I say that I struggle, too? I still everything everyone else does is so much better. I only started with the lessons but they are hard... You know what I think? Either you are trying to hard and you need to change the way you see things or you haven't found the right medium or style, yet. Maybe you are also not able to see little improvements.. I don't know you. For me I am still at the boxes and man those are hard. Rough perspective O.O what? But hey I hit the vanishing point twice just twice in the exercise. But there were small improvements. I somehow fail to believe that someone who practises their drawing does not at least in some way improve. I wish I could look at your progress and tell you that but maybe someone who has done those lessons can help you out better. Don't be discouraged. Do the exercises but try something else. If you have never done painting - give it a try. A different technique/approach might feel like a refreshment.
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I say as long as you want it, to continue to try. I've drawn since I was 6 years old. Got a degree in drawing and everything. It's not an easy thing. I'll tell you right now in college I constantly questioned if this is what I wanted and it gave me so much stress and unhappiness. After I graduated things started to click and I started to get really good. If you need help, shoot me a dm I'll try to give you some advice! Good luck!
| 0 | 51,677 | 1.5 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fld4jpa
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fldjqan
| 1,585,056,362 | 1,585,065,912 | 3 | 6 |
Get good at analyzing your own art. Figure out *why* it "looks bad"
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I say as long as you want it, to continue to try. I've drawn since I was 6 years old. Got a degree in drawing and everything. It's not an easy thing. I'll tell you right now in college I constantly questioned if this is what I wanted and it gave me so much stress and unhappiness. After I graduated things started to click and I started to get really good. If you need help, shoot me a dm I'll try to give you some advice! Good luck!
| 0 | 9,550 | 2 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.9 |
When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flddntg
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fldjqan
| 1,585,062,378 | 1,585,065,912 | 4 | 6 |
try other references!
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I say as long as you want it, to continue to try. I've drawn since I was 6 years old. Got a degree in drawing and everything. It's not an easy thing. I'll tell you right now in college I constantly questioned if this is what I wanted and it gave me so much stress and unhappiness. After I graduated things started to click and I started to get really good. If you need help, shoot me a dm I'll try to give you some advice! Good luck!
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fnwdtf
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When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flca3mj
| 1,585,014,235 | 1,585,024,019 | 4 | 5 |
Hm... I have to think about that. I am sorry you experience it like this. Would it help if I say that I struggle, too? I still everything everyone else does is so much better. I only started with the lessons but they are hard... You know what I think? Either you are trying to hard and you need to change the way you see things or you haven't found the right medium or style, yet. Maybe you are also not able to see little improvements.. I don't know you. For me I am still at the boxes and man those are hard. Rough perspective O.O what? But hey I hit the vanishing point twice just twice in the exercise. But there were small improvements. I somehow fail to believe that someone who practises their drawing does not at least in some way improve. I wish I could look at your progress and tell you that but maybe someone who has done those lessons can help you out better. Don't be discouraged. Do the exercises but try something else. If you have never done painting - give it a try. A different technique/approach might feel like a refreshment.
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Uhm. It's gotta depend on what your goals are. Then plan milestones within that same goal. If you want, we can chat on Google Hangout, and we can figure it out. I have a bit of extra time now. Message me if you're interested. But yeah, it always comes down to clearly defined goals.
| 0 | 9,784 | 1.25 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
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When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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flbwi8b
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flcp9br
| 1,585,014,235 | 1,585,040,468 | 4 | 5 |
Hm... I have to think about that. I am sorry you experience it like this. Would it help if I say that I struggle, too? I still everything everyone else does is so much better. I only started with the lessons but they are hard... You know what I think? Either you are trying to hard and you need to change the way you see things or you haven't found the right medium or style, yet. Maybe you are also not able to see little improvements.. I don't know you. For me I am still at the boxes and man those are hard. Rough perspective O.O what? But hey I hit the vanishing point twice just twice in the exercise. But there were small improvements. I somehow fail to believe that someone who practises their drawing does not at least in some way improve. I wish I could look at your progress and tell you that but maybe someone who has done those lessons can help you out better. Don't be discouraged. Do the exercises but try something else. If you have never done painting - give it a try. A different technique/approach might feel like a refreshment.
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Sometimes when I went further, id do poorly in one area and decide to go back through some sections, do it again, try to think more about it, and I found it helped a good bit. Getting frustrated that "its wrong" is natural, but its important to ask *why* and *where* its wrong, its important to think through things with drawing. Sometimes it also helps to change to a different subject/method in general. These aren't just skills you practice and master in one go, you build, build, and build them.
| 0 | 26,233 | 1.25 | ||
fnwdtf
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artfundamentals_train
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When is it time to quit? Just finished lesson 3 daisy demo...I’m so bad at this. I don’t get a lot. Been trying to learn to draw for five years now and everything I do is still horrible. I know “anyone” can draw. I even studied the brain mechanics behind it with Drawing in the Right side of the brain...as much as I want it maybe this just isn’t for me. Maybe I just can’t. I can’t even improve properly because when ever I ask for help no one answers. I tried taking courses back when I was in college but they are to fast and ridges. I haven’t felt this lost since math in high school...and I was only lost there due to the America school system leaving me several grades behind in math because they couldn’t be asked to help me either. Trying to learn to draw is just bringing me unhappiness and stress because nothing changes no matter how I tackle the problem and I never feel like I “get it”.
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fld4jpa
| 1,585,062,378 | 1,585,056,362 | 4 | 3 |
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Get good at analyzing your own art. Figure out *why* it "looks bad"
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x4pcn7
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artfundamentals_train
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I can't draw straight lines I tried drawing from my shoulder,resting my wrist and going fast but none of that seems to make my lines go straight what should I do
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imxqsmj
| 1,662,193,601 | 1,662,219,216 | 1 | 15 |
**To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.*
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It won’t happen automatically or instantly. You have to do these exercises for a while before it clicks. Just like going to the gym and lifting weights, you don’t see instant results.
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x4pcn7
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artfundamentals_train
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I can't draw straight lines I tried drawing from my shoulder,resting my wrist and going fast but none of that seems to make my lines go straight what should I do
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imxbnes
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imwjtf3
| 1,662,212,554 | 1,662,193,601 | 13 | 1 |
Drawing straight lines is a skill, just like drawing a circle. If you want to get good at it, practice and forgive the small mistakes as things you can slowly correct!
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**To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.*
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