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Let people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well."
] |
>
Maybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online."
] |
>
Humans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes."
] |
>
There should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die."
] |
>
Like whining on reddit about people mourning?
Such balance. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud."
] |
>
He retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance."
] |
>
Fewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure."
] |
>
Changed the game forever. You will be missed | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport."
] |
>
I’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him.
When he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work.
I’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed"
] |
>
That’s so cool, thanks for sharing | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life."
] |
>
I remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.
RIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing"
] |
>
People who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something"
] |
>
I had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did.
Lol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other."
] |
>
He was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was"
] |
>
RIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing."
] |
>
The Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player.
Every superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.
If you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible.
He's immortal all the same. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA."
] |
>
Yep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.
He wasn't just a fantastic player.
He was an icon. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same."
] |
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His run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.
I never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title "the ace" even starts to do it justice.
Also, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon."
] |
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Same thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele."
] |
>
The One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league"
] |
>
Rest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing."
] |
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3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed."
] |
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It does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed.
But yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil."
] |
>
It does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the "greatest ever". Brazil was loaded during that era. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance"
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Brazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era."
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Oh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football"
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Rest in Peace, Legend 🔥 | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off."
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I was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!! | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥"
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Elmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.
[pause]
Elmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!"
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Was I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice? | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes."
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Was I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?
The guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?"
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it’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid"
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What a gut punch to end the year | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend"
] |
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I’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year"
] |
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Brazil is a lot less bright today..... | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele"
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The entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today....."
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An icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT"
] |
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RIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace"
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R.I.P Brazillian GOAT | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history"
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That could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT"
] |
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We will never forget you | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema."
] |
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I saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you"
] |
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The Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP."
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I dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona."
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Wow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)
RIP Pelé. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė."
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"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé."
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He was king of the soccer field.
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"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele."
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I first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper."
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RIP to a true football legend. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player."
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I highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend."
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Done at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.
Enormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(
Pele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'( | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is."
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One of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'("
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I could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé."
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Had no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend."
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The Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60."
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The only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP! | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages."
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I still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!"
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Rest in peace big guy | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game."
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The absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy"
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RiP Greatest footballer of all time | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy"
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RIP....one of the great ones | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time"
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RIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky! | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones"
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Damn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!"
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The most recognizable name in the world. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend."
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Goodbye to a Beautiful ambassador beautiful man | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend.",
">\n\nThe most recognizable name in the world."
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TIL Pelé was still alive and not a long deceased legend of the game.
As someone pointed out, I have zero interest in sports, live in New England, and still know Pelé's impact on soccer. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend.",
">\n\nThe most recognizable name in the world.",
">\n\nGoodbye to a Beautiful ambassador beautiful man"
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I read that he was battling cancer recently l | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend.",
">\n\nThe most recognizable name in the world.",
">\n\nGoodbye to a Beautiful ambassador beautiful man",
">\n\nTIL Pelé was still alive and not a long deceased legend of the game.\nAs someone pointed out, I have zero interest in sports, live in New England, and still know Pelé's impact on soccer."
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He's one of those people that, when I thought of them, I thought they died long ago. Condolences to those who cared about him, fans, friends, and family. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend.",
">\n\nThe most recognizable name in the world.",
">\n\nGoodbye to a Beautiful ambassador beautiful man",
">\n\nTIL Pelé was still alive and not a long deceased legend of the game.\nAs someone pointed out, I have zero interest in sports, live in New England, and still know Pelé's impact on soccer.",
">\n\nI read that he was battling cancer recently l"
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inventor of the Jogo bonito.. gone to that beautiful pitch in the sky..
descanse em paz, Edson Arantes do Nascimento - Pele...
you gave us a beautiful game... you gave your country much glory... rest now, king... | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend.",
">\n\nThe most recognizable name in the world.",
">\n\nGoodbye to a Beautiful ambassador beautiful man",
">\n\nTIL Pelé was still alive and not a long deceased legend of the game.\nAs someone pointed out, I have zero interest in sports, live in New England, and still know Pelé's impact on soccer.",
">\n\nI read that he was battling cancer recently l",
">\n\nHe's one of those people that, when I thought of them, I thought they died long ago. Condolences to those who cared about him, fans, friends, and family."
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Never heard of Pele, until recently searching who the best soccer player was during the FIFA World cup, and Pele always coming up #1.
I wonder what makes him the greatest soccer player. God I wish I could've watched him play. RIP. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend.",
">\n\nThe most recognizable name in the world.",
">\n\nGoodbye to a Beautiful ambassador beautiful man",
">\n\nTIL Pelé was still alive and not a long deceased legend of the game.\nAs someone pointed out, I have zero interest in sports, live in New England, and still know Pelé's impact on soccer.",
">\n\nI read that he was battling cancer recently l",
">\n\nHe's one of those people that, when I thought of them, I thought they died long ago. Condolences to those who cared about him, fans, friends, and family.",
">\n\ninventor of the Jogo bonito.. gone to that beautiful pitch in the sky..\ndescanse em paz, Edson Arantes do Nascimento - Pele...\nyou gave us a beautiful game... you gave your country much glory... rest now, king..."
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"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend.",
">\n\nThe most recognizable name in the world.",
">\n\nGoodbye to a Beautiful ambassador beautiful man",
">\n\nTIL Pelé was still alive and not a long deceased legend of the game.\nAs someone pointed out, I have zero interest in sports, live in New England, and still know Pelé's impact on soccer.",
">\n\nI read that he was battling cancer recently l",
">\n\nHe's one of those people that, when I thought of them, I thought they died long ago. Condolences to those who cared about him, fans, friends, and family.",
">\n\ninventor of the Jogo bonito.. gone to that beautiful pitch in the sky..\ndescanse em paz, Edson Arantes do Nascimento - Pele...\nyou gave us a beautiful game... you gave your country much glory... rest now, king...",
">\n\nNever heard of Pele, until recently searching who the best soccer player was during the FIFA World cup, and Pele always coming up #1. \nI wonder what makes him the greatest soccer player. God I wish I could've watched him play. RIP."
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"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend.",
">\n\nThe most recognizable name in the world.",
">\n\nGoodbye to a Beautiful ambassador beautiful man",
">\n\nTIL Pelé was still alive and not a long deceased legend of the game.\nAs someone pointed out, I have zero interest in sports, live in New England, and still know Pelé's impact on soccer.",
">\n\nI read that he was battling cancer recently l",
">\n\nHe's one of those people that, when I thought of them, I thought they died long ago. Condolences to those who cared about him, fans, friends, and family.",
">\n\ninventor of the Jogo bonito.. gone to that beautiful pitch in the sky..\ndescanse em paz, Edson Arantes do Nascimento - Pele...\nyou gave us a beautiful game... you gave your country much glory... rest now, king...",
">\n\nNever heard of Pele, until recently searching who the best soccer player was during the FIFA World cup, and Pele always coming up #1. \nI wonder what makes him the greatest soccer player. God I wish I could've watched him play. RIP.",
">\n\nIt's a terrible day for rain"
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You would have to combine the three Ronaldos to get close to one Pelé. Pelé stood head and shoulders above any player and basically invented modern futbol | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend.",
">\n\nThe most recognizable name in the world.",
">\n\nGoodbye to a Beautiful ambassador beautiful man",
">\n\nTIL Pelé was still alive and not a long deceased legend of the game.\nAs someone pointed out, I have zero interest in sports, live in New England, and still know Pelé's impact on soccer.",
">\n\nI read that he was battling cancer recently l",
">\n\nHe's one of those people that, when I thought of them, I thought they died long ago. Condolences to those who cared about him, fans, friends, and family.",
">\n\ninventor of the Jogo bonito.. gone to that beautiful pitch in the sky..\ndescanse em paz, Edson Arantes do Nascimento - Pele...\nyou gave us a beautiful game... you gave your country much glory... rest now, king...",
">\n\nNever heard of Pele, until recently searching who the best soccer player was during the FIFA World cup, and Pele always coming up #1. \nI wonder what makes him the greatest soccer player. God I wish I could've watched him play. RIP.",
">\n\nIt's a terrible day for rain",
">\n\nWho's better, him or Ronaldo?"
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"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend.",
">\n\nThe most recognizable name in the world.",
">\n\nGoodbye to a Beautiful ambassador beautiful man",
">\n\nTIL Pelé was still alive and not a long deceased legend of the game.\nAs someone pointed out, I have zero interest in sports, live in New England, and still know Pelé's impact on soccer.",
">\n\nI read that he was battling cancer recently l",
">\n\nHe's one of those people that, when I thought of them, I thought they died long ago. Condolences to those who cared about him, fans, friends, and family.",
">\n\ninventor of the Jogo bonito.. gone to that beautiful pitch in the sky..\ndescanse em paz, Edson Arantes do Nascimento - Pele...\nyou gave us a beautiful game... you gave your country much glory... rest now, king...",
">\n\nNever heard of Pele, until recently searching who the best soccer player was during the FIFA World cup, and Pele always coming up #1. \nI wonder what makes him the greatest soccer player. God I wish I could've watched him play. RIP.",
">\n\nIt's a terrible day for rain",
">\n\nWho's better, him or Ronaldo?",
">\n\nYou would have to combine the three Ronaldos to get close to one Pelé. Pelé stood head and shoulders above any player and basically invented modern futbol"
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"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend.",
">\n\nThe most recognizable name in the world.",
">\n\nGoodbye to a Beautiful ambassador beautiful man",
">\n\nTIL Pelé was still alive and not a long deceased legend of the game.\nAs someone pointed out, I have zero interest in sports, live in New England, and still know Pelé's impact on soccer.",
">\n\nI read that he was battling cancer recently l",
">\n\nHe's one of those people that, when I thought of them, I thought they died long ago. Condolences to those who cared about him, fans, friends, and family.",
">\n\ninventor of the Jogo bonito.. gone to that beautiful pitch in the sky..\ndescanse em paz, Edson Arantes do Nascimento - Pele...\nyou gave us a beautiful game... you gave your country much glory... rest now, king...",
">\n\nNever heard of Pele, until recently searching who the best soccer player was during the FIFA World cup, and Pele always coming up #1. \nI wonder what makes him the greatest soccer player. God I wish I could've watched him play. RIP.",
">\n\nIt's a terrible day for rain",
">\n\nWho's better, him or Ronaldo?",
">\n\nYou would have to combine the three Ronaldos to get close to one Pelé. Pelé stood head and shoulders above any player and basically invented modern futbol",
">\n\nOh cool, that's awesome. I'm not a fanboy, just didn't know anyone else to compare it to"
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I know very little about football (or as we say over on this side of the pond, soccer) beyond what I learned from watching Ted Lasso, but the name Pele is synonymous with the sport even to non fans. So many years after his retirement, and he's still a legend. My condolences to his family, his people, and his nation. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend.",
">\n\nThe most recognizable name in the world.",
">\n\nGoodbye to a Beautiful ambassador beautiful man",
">\n\nTIL Pelé was still alive and not a long deceased legend of the game.\nAs someone pointed out, I have zero interest in sports, live in New England, and still know Pelé's impact on soccer.",
">\n\nI read that he was battling cancer recently l",
">\n\nHe's one of those people that, when I thought of them, I thought they died long ago. Condolences to those who cared about him, fans, friends, and family.",
">\n\ninventor of the Jogo bonito.. gone to that beautiful pitch in the sky..\ndescanse em paz, Edson Arantes do Nascimento - Pele...\nyou gave us a beautiful game... you gave your country much glory... rest now, king...",
">\n\nNever heard of Pele, until recently searching who the best soccer player was during the FIFA World cup, and Pele always coming up #1. \nI wonder what makes him the greatest soccer player. God I wish I could've watched him play. RIP.",
">\n\nIt's a terrible day for rain",
">\n\nWho's better, him or Ronaldo?",
">\n\nYou would have to combine the three Ronaldos to get close to one Pelé. Pelé stood head and shoulders above any player and basically invented modern futbol",
">\n\nOh cool, that's awesome. I'm not a fanboy, just didn't know anyone else to compare it to",
">\n\nAnd he was in the the great football movie “Escape to Victory”"
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Pelé and the beautiful game are synonymous. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend.",
">\n\nThe most recognizable name in the world.",
">\n\nGoodbye to a Beautiful ambassador beautiful man",
">\n\nTIL Pelé was still alive and not a long deceased legend of the game.\nAs someone pointed out, I have zero interest in sports, live in New England, and still know Pelé's impact on soccer.",
">\n\nI read that he was battling cancer recently l",
">\n\nHe's one of those people that, when I thought of them, I thought they died long ago. Condolences to those who cared about him, fans, friends, and family.",
">\n\ninventor of the Jogo bonito.. gone to that beautiful pitch in the sky..\ndescanse em paz, Edson Arantes do Nascimento - Pele...\nyou gave us a beautiful game... you gave your country much glory... rest now, king...",
">\n\nNever heard of Pele, until recently searching who the best soccer player was during the FIFA World cup, and Pele always coming up #1. \nI wonder what makes him the greatest soccer player. God I wish I could've watched him play. RIP.",
">\n\nIt's a terrible day for rain",
">\n\nWho's better, him or Ronaldo?",
">\n\nYou would have to combine the three Ronaldos to get close to one Pelé. Pelé stood head and shoulders above any player and basically invented modern futbol",
">\n\nOh cool, that's awesome. I'm not a fanboy, just didn't know anyone else to compare it to",
">\n\nAnd he was in the the great football movie “Escape to Victory”",
">\n\nI know very little about football (or as we say over on this side of the pond, soccer) beyond what I learned from watching Ted Lasso, but the name Pele is synonymous with the sport even to non fans. So many years after his retirement, and he's still a legend. My condolences to his family, his people, and his nation."
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"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend.",
">\n\nThe most recognizable name in the world.",
">\n\nGoodbye to a Beautiful ambassador beautiful man",
">\n\nTIL Pelé was still alive and not a long deceased legend of the game.\nAs someone pointed out, I have zero interest in sports, live in New England, and still know Pelé's impact on soccer.",
">\n\nI read that he was battling cancer recently l",
">\n\nHe's one of those people that, when I thought of them, I thought they died long ago. Condolences to those who cared about him, fans, friends, and family.",
">\n\ninventor of the Jogo bonito.. gone to that beautiful pitch in the sky..\ndescanse em paz, Edson Arantes do Nascimento - Pele...\nyou gave us a beautiful game... you gave your country much glory... rest now, king...",
">\n\nNever heard of Pele, until recently searching who the best soccer player was during the FIFA World cup, and Pele always coming up #1. \nI wonder what makes him the greatest soccer player. God I wish I could've watched him play. RIP.",
">\n\nIt's a terrible day for rain",
">\n\nWho's better, him or Ronaldo?",
">\n\nYou would have to combine the three Ronaldos to get close to one Pelé. Pelé stood head and shoulders above any player and basically invented modern futbol",
">\n\nOh cool, that's awesome. I'm not a fanboy, just didn't know anyone else to compare it to",
">\n\nAnd he was in the the great football movie “Escape to Victory”",
">\n\nI know very little about football (or as we say over on this side of the pond, soccer) beyond what I learned from watching Ted Lasso, but the name Pele is synonymous with the sport even to non fans. So many years after his retirement, and he's still a legend. My condolences to his family, his people, and his nation.",
">\n\nPelé and the beautiful game are synonymous."
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Met him when I was a kid at an exhibition game with the Tampa Bay Rowdies. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend.",
">\n\nThe most recognizable name in the world.",
">\n\nGoodbye to a Beautiful ambassador beautiful man",
">\n\nTIL Pelé was still alive and not a long deceased legend of the game.\nAs someone pointed out, I have zero interest in sports, live in New England, and still know Pelé's impact on soccer.",
">\n\nI read that he was battling cancer recently l",
">\n\nHe's one of those people that, when I thought of them, I thought they died long ago. Condolences to those who cared about him, fans, friends, and family.",
">\n\ninventor of the Jogo bonito.. gone to that beautiful pitch in the sky..\ndescanse em paz, Edson Arantes do Nascimento - Pele...\nyou gave us a beautiful game... you gave your country much glory... rest now, king...",
">\n\nNever heard of Pele, until recently searching who the best soccer player was during the FIFA World cup, and Pele always coming up #1. \nI wonder what makes him the greatest soccer player. God I wish I could've watched him play. RIP.",
">\n\nIt's a terrible day for rain",
">\n\nWho's better, him or Ronaldo?",
">\n\nYou would have to combine the three Ronaldos to get close to one Pelé. Pelé stood head and shoulders above any player and basically invented modern futbol",
">\n\nOh cool, that's awesome. I'm not a fanboy, just didn't know anyone else to compare it to",
">\n\nAnd he was in the the great football movie “Escape to Victory”",
">\n\nI know very little about football (or as we say over on this side of the pond, soccer) beyond what I learned from watching Ted Lasso, but the name Pele is synonymous with the sport even to non fans. So many years after his retirement, and he's still a legend. My condolences to his family, his people, and his nation.",
">\n\nPelé and the beautiful game are synonymous.",
">\n\nJust before the year ended ..2022 was truly a bad year"
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Damn, he was like Framboise of soccer. | [
"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend.",
">\n\nThe most recognizable name in the world.",
">\n\nGoodbye to a Beautiful ambassador beautiful man",
">\n\nTIL Pelé was still alive and not a long deceased legend of the game.\nAs someone pointed out, I have zero interest in sports, live in New England, and still know Pelé's impact on soccer.",
">\n\nI read that he was battling cancer recently l",
">\n\nHe's one of those people that, when I thought of them, I thought they died long ago. Condolences to those who cared about him, fans, friends, and family.",
">\n\ninventor of the Jogo bonito.. gone to that beautiful pitch in the sky..\ndescanse em paz, Edson Arantes do Nascimento - Pele...\nyou gave us a beautiful game... you gave your country much glory... rest now, king...",
">\n\nNever heard of Pele, until recently searching who the best soccer player was during the FIFA World cup, and Pele always coming up #1. \nI wonder what makes him the greatest soccer player. God I wish I could've watched him play. RIP.",
">\n\nIt's a terrible day for rain",
">\n\nWho's better, him or Ronaldo?",
">\n\nYou would have to combine the three Ronaldos to get close to one Pelé. Pelé stood head and shoulders above any player and basically invented modern futbol",
">\n\nOh cool, that's awesome. I'm not a fanboy, just didn't know anyone else to compare it to",
">\n\nAnd he was in the the great football movie “Escape to Victory”",
">\n\nI know very little about football (or as we say over on this side of the pond, soccer) beyond what I learned from watching Ted Lasso, but the name Pele is synonymous with the sport even to non fans. So many years after his retirement, and he's still a legend. My condolences to his family, his people, and his nation.",
">\n\nPelé and the beautiful game are synonymous.",
">\n\nJust before the year ended ..2022 was truly a bad year",
">\n\nMet him when I was a kid at an exhibition game with the Tampa Bay Rowdies."
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"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend.",
">\n\nThe most recognizable name in the world.",
">\n\nGoodbye to a Beautiful ambassador beautiful man",
">\n\nTIL Pelé was still alive and not a long deceased legend of the game.\nAs someone pointed out, I have zero interest in sports, live in New England, and still know Pelé's impact on soccer.",
">\n\nI read that he was battling cancer recently l",
">\n\nHe's one of those people that, when I thought of them, I thought they died long ago. Condolences to those who cared about him, fans, friends, and family.",
">\n\ninventor of the Jogo bonito.. gone to that beautiful pitch in the sky..\ndescanse em paz, Edson Arantes do Nascimento - Pele...\nyou gave us a beautiful game... you gave your country much glory... rest now, king...",
">\n\nNever heard of Pele, until recently searching who the best soccer player was during the FIFA World cup, and Pele always coming up #1. \nI wonder what makes him the greatest soccer player. God I wish I could've watched him play. RIP.",
">\n\nIt's a terrible day for rain",
">\n\nWho's better, him or Ronaldo?",
">\n\nYou would have to combine the three Ronaldos to get close to one Pelé. Pelé stood head and shoulders above any player and basically invented modern futbol",
">\n\nOh cool, that's awesome. I'm not a fanboy, just didn't know anyone else to compare it to",
">\n\nAnd he was in the the great football movie “Escape to Victory”",
">\n\nI know very little about football (or as we say over on this side of the pond, soccer) beyond what I learned from watching Ted Lasso, but the name Pele is synonymous with the sport even to non fans. So many years after his retirement, and he's still a legend. My condolences to his family, his people, and his nation.",
">\n\nPelé and the beautiful game are synonymous.",
">\n\nJust before the year ended ..2022 was truly a bad year",
">\n\nMet him when I was a kid at an exhibition game with the Tampa Bay Rowdies.",
">\n\nDamn, he was like Framboise of soccer."
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"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend.",
">\n\nThe most recognizable name in the world.",
">\n\nGoodbye to a Beautiful ambassador beautiful man",
">\n\nTIL Pelé was still alive and not a long deceased legend of the game.\nAs someone pointed out, I have zero interest in sports, live in New England, and still know Pelé's impact on soccer.",
">\n\nI read that he was battling cancer recently l",
">\n\nHe's one of those people that, when I thought of them, I thought they died long ago. Condolences to those who cared about him, fans, friends, and family.",
">\n\ninventor of the Jogo bonito.. gone to that beautiful pitch in the sky..\ndescanse em paz, Edson Arantes do Nascimento - Pele...\nyou gave us a beautiful game... you gave your country much glory... rest now, king...",
">\n\nNever heard of Pele, until recently searching who the best soccer player was during the FIFA World cup, and Pele always coming up #1. \nI wonder what makes him the greatest soccer player. God I wish I could've watched him play. RIP.",
">\n\nIt's a terrible day for rain",
">\n\nWho's better, him or Ronaldo?",
">\n\nYou would have to combine the three Ronaldos to get close to one Pelé. Pelé stood head and shoulders above any player and basically invented modern futbol",
">\n\nOh cool, that's awesome. I'm not a fanboy, just didn't know anyone else to compare it to",
">\n\nAnd he was in the the great football movie “Escape to Victory”",
">\n\nI know very little about football (or as we say over on this side of the pond, soccer) beyond what I learned from watching Ted Lasso, but the name Pele is synonymous with the sport even to non fans. So many years after his retirement, and he's still a legend. My condolences to his family, his people, and his nation.",
">\n\nPelé and the beautiful game are synonymous.",
">\n\nJust before the year ended ..2022 was truly a bad year",
">\n\nMet him when I was a kid at an exhibition game with the Tampa Bay Rowdies.",
">\n\nDamn, he was like Framboise of soccer.",
">\n\nKing, eh? Well I didn't vote for him..."
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"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend.",
">\n\nThe most recognizable name in the world.",
">\n\nGoodbye to a Beautiful ambassador beautiful man",
">\n\nTIL Pelé was still alive and not a long deceased legend of the game.\nAs someone pointed out, I have zero interest in sports, live in New England, and still know Pelé's impact on soccer.",
">\n\nI read that he was battling cancer recently l",
">\n\nHe's one of those people that, when I thought of them, I thought they died long ago. Condolences to those who cared about him, fans, friends, and family.",
">\n\ninventor of the Jogo bonito.. gone to that beautiful pitch in the sky..\ndescanse em paz, Edson Arantes do Nascimento - Pele...\nyou gave us a beautiful game... you gave your country much glory... rest now, king...",
">\n\nNever heard of Pele, until recently searching who the best soccer player was during the FIFA World cup, and Pele always coming up #1. \nI wonder what makes him the greatest soccer player. God I wish I could've watched him play. RIP.",
">\n\nIt's a terrible day for rain",
">\n\nWho's better, him or Ronaldo?",
">\n\nYou would have to combine the three Ronaldos to get close to one Pelé. Pelé stood head and shoulders above any player and basically invented modern futbol",
">\n\nOh cool, that's awesome. I'm not a fanboy, just didn't know anyone else to compare it to",
">\n\nAnd he was in the the great football movie “Escape to Victory”",
">\n\nI know very little about football (or as we say over on this side of the pond, soccer) beyond what I learned from watching Ted Lasso, but the name Pele is synonymous with the sport even to non fans. So many years after his retirement, and he's still a legend. My condolences to his family, his people, and his nation.",
">\n\nPelé and the beautiful game are synonymous.",
">\n\nJust before the year ended ..2022 was truly a bad year",
">\n\nMet him when I was a kid at an exhibition game with the Tampa Bay Rowdies.",
">\n\nDamn, he was like Framboise of soccer.",
">\n\nKing, eh? Well I didn't vote for him...",
">\n\nfifa did"
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"RIP to the king of the game. Legend.",
">\n\nHe's arguably one of the primary reasons why soccer became the most popular sport in the world. RIP",
">\n\nRetired ~50 years ago and remained a household name.",
">\n\nSeriously though! As someone who doesn't follow sports all that much, it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized Pelé was an older man and not some present day sports superstar given how common it was to hear his name mentioned whenever soccer/football came up.",
">\n\nI am just now learning that Pele is not a 35 year old man. I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to soccer, but I knew the name Pele.",
">\n\nHaving learned about him growing up but not watching soccer I thought he played with guys like Beckham. He's to soccer what Wilt and Babe Ruth are to basketball and baseball.",
">\n\nI'm not a soccer fan, but I get the impression that Pelé is far more important to soccer than Wilt Chamberlain is to basketball or Babe Ruth is to baseball. I'm not sure American sports has an equivalent to Pelé.",
">\n\nMaybe not in importance but in complete domination of their sport setting records that still have yet to be broken.",
">\n\nI was just speaking in terms of their importance. We have had many great players in different sports but Pelé is like the Jesus Christ of soccer, no American athlete matches that. Closest one would probably be Michael Jordan, but I don't think even he is on the same level because his fame has waned a bit in the 20 years he has been retired whereas Pelé has been retired for 50 years and is just as famous as he ever was.",
">\n\nThis man was a global icon in a world before social media, the internet, etc. Even those who didn't follow sports knew his name. \nHe even was the cause of a cease fire during the Nigerian civil war so they could watch him play. \nLegend doesn't begin to describe him.",
">\n\nI know next to nothing about Soccer and even I know about him",
">\n\nPele is one of those people whose name transcended the sport. You don't have to follow the sport to know who Pele, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Venus and Serena Williams, are.",
">\n\nAt one time the most famous individual human was Muhammad Ali. Pelé was on that level, it is true.\nCouple of other names as well: Jackie Robinson and Walter Payton.\nEdit: fixed misspelled name.",
">\n\nGotta say I don’t know Walter Patton.",
">\n\nThat might be my fault here. I meant Walter Payton. Sweetness. NFL running back who played for Chicago. Rushed for 16K+ yards. The NFL man of the year award is named after him because he was always doing charity work.",
">\n\n...who?\nUnfortunately, I think stuff like NFL, Rugby, or baseball superstars can really get on the same global recognition level as soccer, basketball, tennis, or golf.",
">\n\nThis is going to be weird to some, maybe... but what i remember him most for is the movie Victory with him, Stallone, Michael Caine and Max von Sydow. Mostly a very fictionalized story about something from World War II... but it was a cool little movie where the Allies beat the Nazis at soccer.\nThey had Pelé using his skills to basically defeat the Third Reich. Sure, not all that super accurate, but it's a fun movie to watch. He was able to act at least as well as Stallone too. And it was one one of the last films directed by John Huston too.",
">\n\n\"After givin' me ball here, I do this... ...this, this, goal. Easy.\"\nMy dad would always say this quote to me before rec league soccer games as a kid. It's a great movie.",
">\n\nIt's sappy, but good. I watched it a lot as kid. The big highlight where Pelé scores a big goal. It's a fun movie.",
">\n\nIs it kind of like Gleaming the Cube but with soccer?",
">\n\n“The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning.” - Pele\nRIP",
">\n\n\"That ain't my daughter!\" (even though DNA tests confirm it)\n\nPele. Blows off her funeral as well.",
">\n\nLet people mourn. Expecting every person who did great things to be perfect people is a problem of the chronically online.",
">\n\nMaybe we should not idolize nor demonize people. Especially not athletes.",
">\n\nHumans have always had heroic figures. Even the ancient Greeks acknowledged how shitty their heroes could often be. We are capable of seeing multiple sides of issues, doesn’t mean we need to drag people through the mud as soon as they die.",
">\n\nThere should be something between idolizing and dragging through mud.",
">\n\nLike whining on reddit about people mourning?\nSuch balance.",
">\n\nHe retired nearly 50 years ago, but only a handful of players have been able to come close to him in the sport. One of the GOATS for sure.",
">\n\nFewer than a handful. Maybe two, but there's a lot of recency bias to account for in those comparisons. It wasn't until the early aughts -roughly 30 years after Pelé's last world cup- that it became 'acceptable' to openly question him as the GOAT, especially among younger people who never got to watch him play. People just got tired of hearing that the GOAT was someone not from their own era. But Pelé's utter dominance of the sport throughout his career remains unmatched. Very few athletes from any sport can compare in terms of how far ahead of the pack he was. Gretzky is one of those ultra-rare examples, but in Pelé's case, he dominated the world's single most played sport.",
">\n\nChanged the game forever. You will be missed",
">\n\nI’m an old man, 74 next month and I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo, Brasil from 1968 to 1970. I had my training to learn Português and the instructors were guys who had been missionaries in Brasil. I learned the language pretty well, and at least once a week one of them would start talking about Pelé. I’m not much into sports of any kind but I found myself interested in hearing about him. \nWhen he played in São Paulo the streets would come to a halt and when he played in other parts of the world, ALL TV’s were turned to those games so it was tough to do missionary work. \nI’ve not been a Mormon for 24+ years and when I heard the news about Pelé, I remembered some of the good memories about that time of my life.",
">\n\nThat’s so cool, thanks for sharing",
">\n\nI remember seeing him and the cosmos play at Shea stadium back when I was a kid. I didn't know it was a big deal being so young but going to the stadium was memorable for some reason.\nRIP... I will always remember going to see the cosmos play and that is something",
">\n\nPeople who have never even touched a soccer ball and know nothing about it still know how big he was in the game. A legend like no other.",
">\n\nI had no idea who this was. I scrolled through the comments to figure out what he did. \nLol really triggered some people all cause I said I had no idea who this pele guy was",
">\n\nHe was the best soccer player ever basically. I'm assuming your a bit like me, and an American. Think of him as a combination of Jackie Robinson's social importance with Michael Jordon's talent. It's a combination you don't normally see in this world. He couldn't just score goals. He could tell people how he did it what he was thinking at different fractions of the second as he drove down on a goalie. Some people have talent, but have no idea how to describe what they are doing in the moment. Pelé somehow knew what he was doing.",
">\n\nRIP. He was the first Pro Football player I ever heard of growing up in the USA.",
">\n\nThe Greatest. The King. The Beautiful Player. \nEvery superlative is absolutely warranted for the one and only Pele.\nIf you didn't watch soccer, you would have still thought of him as the greatest. If you did, you would have thought of him as invincible. \nHe's immortal all the same.",
">\n\nYep. I'm not even remotely interested in sport as a whole but my family are, and I grew up hearing brilliant things whenever he was mentioned.\nHe wasn't just a fantastic player.\nHe was an icon.",
">\n\n\nHis run with Santos stretched over three decades until he went into semi-retirement after the 1972 season. Wealthy European clubs tried to sign him, but the Brazilian government intervened to keep him from being sold, declaring him a national treasure.\n\nI never did get into soccer/futbol, but I still can't imagine just how good a player at any sport has to be for their government to prevent them from being traded to a foreign team. I don't think the title \"the ace\" even starts to do it justice.\nAlso, the article links to a short story about how Edson Arantes do Nascimento came to be called Pele.",
">\n\nSame thing happened recently when Emmanuel Macron personnaly asked a french player in Paris Saint-Germain not to leave the club for a foreign league",
">\n\nThe One all players aspire to be. His memory for a blessing.",
">\n\nRest in peace legend. Only player to ever win 3 world cups. You'll be missed.",
">\n\n3 with a *. He was out after the 2nd game in '62 and it was Garrincha that took the team on his shoulders and won it for Brazil.",
">\n\nIt does not work like that bro, he even scored in the opening game I think. No asterisk needed. \nBut yeah, Garrincha absolutely deserves to be praised for his 62 performance",
">\n\nIt does for him, considering he constantly peddled the 3 wc victories as proof that he was the \"greatest ever\". Brazil was loaded during that era.",
">\n\nBrazil was loaded and he was clear best out of everyone. The Greatest. The King of Football",
">\n\nOh ffs. He was clearly the greatest for one of them. One of them he was there for the beginning and the other he was a great player on a strong team. The third he was a non-factor. This is the problem with the Pele myth. People turned him into Paul Bunyan. If Garrincha weren't the person he was and had the marketing team behind him like Pele did then the same sort of thing could have happened with him because if you look at the film he was just as ahead of his time as Pele was. Pele was great. The greatest? There is no greatest. The sports way too big for one guy to be head and shoulders above the rest. That's the myth that pisses me off.",
">\n\nRest in Peace, Legend 🔥",
">\n\nI was an exchange student to Brazil 1970-71. First time entering country there was a ginormous traffic congestion due to pro soccer game. He was such a super star!!!",
">\n\nElmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the goddamn goalie never knew what the fuck hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.\n[pause] \nElmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-assed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty goddamned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.",
">\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?",
">\n\n\nWas I supposed to read that in a high-pitched, Sesame Street puppet voice?\n\nThe guy who wrote Vision Quest was apparently a big lover of Sesame Street as a kid",
">\n\nit’s incredible how much of an impact he left on the sport. So many decades later and his name is still remembered. Legend",
">\n\nWhat a gut punch to end the year",
">\n\nI’ve never watched soccer but even I’ve heard of Pele",
">\n\nBrazil is a lot less bright today.....",
">\n\nThe entire world is a lot less bright today my friend. RIP the real GOAT",
">\n\nAn icon of the sport, the world will never see another Pelé. Rest In Peace",
">\n\nRIP legend. One of the biggest figures in history",
">\n\nR.I.P Brazillian GOAT",
">\n\nThat could still be taken by The Girl from Ipanema.",
">\n\nWe will never forget you",
">\n\nI saw him at a NASL game in the 1970s, playing for the New York Cosmos. He was much better than anyone else on the field. Second wasn’t even close. RIP.",
">\n\nThe Michael Jordan. The Wayne Gretzky. The Babe Ruth of Soccer. The greatest of all time with all due respect to Messi and Maradona.",
">\n\nI dont know a thing about football but Ive damn sure heard of the GOAT. Rest in peace Pelė.",
">\n\nWow, that’s a blast from the past. Was never a soccer fan in any way, shape or form but even I knew Pelé was the goat. Now that’s some Messi or Beckham guy or something I think. LOL (Still not a futbol fan in any way)\nRIP Pelé.",
">\n\nThe GOAT of the most popular sport in history just died. RIP Pele.",
">\n\nHe was king of the soccer field.\nTo be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield Wax Paper.",
">\n\nI first started playing soccer in 1971 - and it was very much because of Pele. Damn, RIP to a amazing player.",
">\n\nRIP to a true football legend.",
">\n\nI highly doubt we ever have another person win three world cups. People have no idea how difficult that just is.",
">\n\nDone at time when 'Grievous Bodily Harm' against skilled players like Pele got little protection from referees.\nEnormously skilled but slightly-built players like Messi would be kicked off the field during those times. :(\nPele: One of Footballs 'Immortals', RIP. :'(",
">\n\nOne of the world's greatest sports icons of all time. It's a sad day. RIP Pelé.",
">\n\nI could name two soccer players. The other is David Beckham. Rip to the obvious legend.",
">\n\nHad no idea he was that old. For some reason in my head he was maybe 60.",
">\n\nThe Babe Ruth of soccer. Now of the ages.",
">\n\nThe only reason I knew what futbol was as a kid. RIP!",
">\n\nI still have his game for Atari 2600. I learned who he was from the game.",
">\n\nRest in peace big guy",
">\n\nThe absolute goat of soccer! Rest easy",
">\n\nRiP Greatest footballer of all time",
">\n\nRIP....one of the great ones",
">\n\nRIP to a legend. Go kick that big soccer ball in the sky!",
">\n\nDamn, RIP to the goat. Such a legend.",
">\n\nThe most recognizable name in the world.",
">\n\nGoodbye to a Beautiful ambassador beautiful man",
">\n\nTIL Pelé was still alive and not a long deceased legend of the game.\nAs someone pointed out, I have zero interest in sports, live in New England, and still know Pelé's impact on soccer.",
">\n\nI read that he was battling cancer recently l",
">\n\nHe's one of those people that, when I thought of them, I thought they died long ago. Condolences to those who cared about him, fans, friends, and family.",
">\n\ninventor of the Jogo bonito.. gone to that beautiful pitch in the sky..\ndescanse em paz, Edson Arantes do Nascimento - Pele...\nyou gave us a beautiful game... you gave your country much glory... rest now, king...",
">\n\nNever heard of Pele, until recently searching who the best soccer player was during the FIFA World cup, and Pele always coming up #1. \nI wonder what makes him the greatest soccer player. God I wish I could've watched him play. RIP.",
">\n\nIt's a terrible day for rain",
">\n\nWho's better, him or Ronaldo?",
">\n\nYou would have to combine the three Ronaldos to get close to one Pelé. Pelé stood head and shoulders above any player and basically invented modern futbol",
">\n\nOh cool, that's awesome. I'm not a fanboy, just didn't know anyone else to compare it to",
">\n\nAnd he was in the the great football movie “Escape to Victory”",
">\n\nI know very little about football (or as we say over on this side of the pond, soccer) beyond what I learned from watching Ted Lasso, but the name Pele is synonymous with the sport even to non fans. So many years after his retirement, and he's still a legend. My condolences to his family, his people, and his nation.",
">\n\nPelé and the beautiful game are synonymous.",
">\n\nJust before the year ended ..2022 was truly a bad year",
">\n\nMet him when I was a kid at an exhibition game with the Tampa Bay Rowdies.",
">\n\nDamn, he was like Framboise of soccer.",
">\n\nKing, eh? Well I didn't vote for him...",
">\n\nfifa did",
">\n\nExalt the icon. Not the person."
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Has he checked the pockets of his other coat? | [] |
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Or his nose? | [
"Has he checked the pockets of his other coat?"
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That would be my guess as to where it all went…
Up Donny Jr’s nose & his wife’s.
Those two can’t hide their Nose Candy fixation any longer. | [
"Has he checked the pockets of his other coat?",
">\n\nOr his nose?"
] |
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This kinda seems like a lot of money even for that particular habit, but I don't really know enough about it to really dispute this so I'm gonna have to go along with this theory. | [
"Has he checked the pockets of his other coat?",
">\n\nOr his nose?",
">\n\nThat would be my guess as to where it all went…\nUp Donny Jr’s nose & his wife’s.\nThose two can’t hide their Nose Candy fixation any longer."
] |
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That amount is an entire cartel shipment that expects to lose 25% on the crossing. It's not personal use....would probably kill an entire midwestern city. Figure that there was an implied /s on your post, but as much as I dislike Donnie Jr., this is a big push to place on nose candy. | [
"Has he checked the pockets of his other coat?",
">\n\nOr his nose?",
">\n\nThat would be my guess as to where it all went…\nUp Donny Jr’s nose & his wife’s.\nThose two can’t hide their Nose Candy fixation any longer.",
">\n\nThis kinda seems like a lot of money even for that particular habit, but I don't really know enough about it to really dispute this so I'm gonna have to go along with this theory."
] |
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If you’re a cashier and your drawer is $100 short, you’re likely fired and could be going to jail. When $240,000,000 goes missing everyone just shrugs. What a world. | [
"Has he checked the pockets of his other coat?",
">\n\nOr his nose?",
">\n\nThat would be my guess as to where it all went…\nUp Donny Jr’s nose & his wife’s.\nThose two can’t hide their Nose Candy fixation any longer.",
">\n\nThis kinda seems like a lot of money even for that particular habit, but I don't really know enough about it to really dispute this so I'm gonna have to go along with this theory.",
">\n\nThat amount is an entire cartel shipment that expects to lose 25% on the crossing. It's not personal use....would probably kill an entire midwestern city. Figure that there was an implied /s on your post, but as much as I dislike Donnie Jr., this is a big push to place on nose candy."
] |
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I've seen cashiers fired for being $20 short before and I've seen cashiers have to put their own money in the drawer to make it even at the end of a shift. It's crazy how micromanaged poor people are and rich people and the government can fail audit after audit and nothing happens. | [
"Has he checked the pockets of his other coat?",
">\n\nOr his nose?",
">\n\nThat would be my guess as to where it all went…\nUp Donny Jr’s nose & his wife’s.\nThose two can’t hide their Nose Candy fixation any longer.",
">\n\nThis kinda seems like a lot of money even for that particular habit, but I don't really know enough about it to really dispute this so I'm gonna have to go along with this theory.",
">\n\nThat amount is an entire cartel shipment that expects to lose 25% on the crossing. It's not personal use....would probably kill an entire midwestern city. Figure that there was an implied /s on your post, but as much as I dislike Donnie Jr., this is a big push to place on nose candy.",
">\n\nIf you’re a cashier and your drawer is $100 short, you’re likely fired and could be going to jail. When $240,000,000 goes missing everyone just shrugs. What a world."
] |
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I've seen cashiers fired for being $20 short
I've seen bartenders get fired for being $20 over. | [
"Has he checked the pockets of his other coat?",
">\n\nOr his nose?",
">\n\nThat would be my guess as to where it all went…\nUp Donny Jr’s nose & his wife’s.\nThose two can’t hide their Nose Candy fixation any longer.",
">\n\nThis kinda seems like a lot of money even for that particular habit, but I don't really know enough about it to really dispute this so I'm gonna have to go along with this theory.",
">\n\nThat amount is an entire cartel shipment that expects to lose 25% on the crossing. It's not personal use....would probably kill an entire midwestern city. Figure that there was an implied /s on your post, but as much as I dislike Donnie Jr., this is a big push to place on nose candy.",
">\n\nIf you’re a cashier and your drawer is $100 short, you’re likely fired and could be going to jail. When $240,000,000 goes missing everyone just shrugs. What a world.",
">\n\nI've seen cashiers fired for being $20 short before and I've seen cashiers have to put their own money in the drawer to make it even at the end of a shift. It's crazy how micromanaged poor people are and rich people and the government can fail audit after audit and nothing happens."
] |
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Does this mean they pour too generously? | [
"Has he checked the pockets of his other coat?",
">\n\nOr his nose?",
">\n\nThat would be my guess as to where it all went…\nUp Donny Jr’s nose & his wife’s.\nThose two can’t hide their Nose Candy fixation any longer.",
">\n\nThis kinda seems like a lot of money even for that particular habit, but I don't really know enough about it to really dispute this so I'm gonna have to go along with this theory.",
">\n\nThat amount is an entire cartel shipment that expects to lose 25% on the crossing. It's not personal use....would probably kill an entire midwestern city. Figure that there was an implied /s on your post, but as much as I dislike Donnie Jr., this is a big push to place on nose candy.",
">\n\nIf you’re a cashier and your drawer is $100 short, you’re likely fired and could be going to jail. When $240,000,000 goes missing everyone just shrugs. What a world.",
">\n\nI've seen cashiers fired for being $20 short before and I've seen cashiers have to put their own money in the drawer to make it even at the end of a shift. It's crazy how micromanaged poor people are and rich people and the government can fail audit after audit and nothing happens.",
">\n\n\nI've seen cashiers fired for being $20 short\n\nI've seen bartenders get fired for being $20 over."
] |
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It can mean a bunch of things. The owner might think you made a mistake while ripping off the bar by bringing in your own bottle. | [
"Has he checked the pockets of his other coat?",
">\n\nOr his nose?",
">\n\nThat would be my guess as to where it all went…\nUp Donny Jr’s nose & his wife’s.\nThose two can’t hide their Nose Candy fixation any longer.",
">\n\nThis kinda seems like a lot of money even for that particular habit, but I don't really know enough about it to really dispute this so I'm gonna have to go along with this theory.",
">\n\nThat amount is an entire cartel shipment that expects to lose 25% on the crossing. It's not personal use....would probably kill an entire midwestern city. Figure that there was an implied /s on your post, but as much as I dislike Donnie Jr., this is a big push to place on nose candy.",
">\n\nIf you’re a cashier and your drawer is $100 short, you’re likely fired and could be going to jail. When $240,000,000 goes missing everyone just shrugs. What a world.",
">\n\nI've seen cashiers fired for being $20 short before and I've seen cashiers have to put their own money in the drawer to make it even at the end of a shift. It's crazy how micromanaged poor people are and rich people and the government can fail audit after audit and nothing happens.",
">\n\n\nI've seen cashiers fired for being $20 short\n\nI've seen bartenders get fired for being $20 over.",
">\n\nDoes this mean they pour too generously?"
] |
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How do you rip off the bar by bringing in your own bottle? | [
"Has he checked the pockets of his other coat?",
">\n\nOr his nose?",
">\n\nThat would be my guess as to where it all went…\nUp Donny Jr’s nose & his wife’s.\nThose two can’t hide their Nose Candy fixation any longer.",
">\n\nThis kinda seems like a lot of money even for that particular habit, but I don't really know enough about it to really dispute this so I'm gonna have to go along with this theory.",
">\n\nThat amount is an entire cartel shipment that expects to lose 25% on the crossing. It's not personal use....would probably kill an entire midwestern city. Figure that there was an implied /s on your post, but as much as I dislike Donnie Jr., this is a big push to place on nose candy.",
">\n\nIf you’re a cashier and your drawer is $100 short, you’re likely fired and could be going to jail. When $240,000,000 goes missing everyone just shrugs. What a world.",
">\n\nI've seen cashiers fired for being $20 short before and I've seen cashiers have to put their own money in the drawer to make it even at the end of a shift. It's crazy how micromanaged poor people are and rich people and the government can fail audit after audit and nothing happens.",
">\n\n\nI've seen cashiers fired for being $20 short\n\nI've seen bartenders get fired for being $20 over.",
">\n\nDoes this mean they pour too generously?",
">\n\nIt can mean a bunch of things. The owner might think you made a mistake while ripping off the bar by bringing in your own bottle."
] |
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Someone orders a rum and coke. You charge them the full price but punch in a coke on the till. You use your bottle for the rum so the customer doesn't know. 40oz bottle= 40 drinks. Minus the difference between 40 cokes. You pocket the cash from the till. The bar does the count at the end of the shift and there's no shortage. Tale as old as time. | [
"Has he checked the pockets of his other coat?",
">\n\nOr his nose?",
">\n\nThat would be my guess as to where it all went…\nUp Donny Jr’s nose & his wife’s.\nThose two can’t hide their Nose Candy fixation any longer.",
">\n\nThis kinda seems like a lot of money even for that particular habit, but I don't really know enough about it to really dispute this so I'm gonna have to go along with this theory.",
">\n\nThat amount is an entire cartel shipment that expects to lose 25% on the crossing. It's not personal use....would probably kill an entire midwestern city. Figure that there was an implied /s on your post, but as much as I dislike Donnie Jr., this is a big push to place on nose candy.",
">\n\nIf you’re a cashier and your drawer is $100 short, you’re likely fired and could be going to jail. When $240,000,000 goes missing everyone just shrugs. What a world.",
">\n\nI've seen cashiers fired for being $20 short before and I've seen cashiers have to put their own money in the drawer to make it even at the end of a shift. It's crazy how micromanaged poor people are and rich people and the government can fail audit after audit and nothing happens.",
">\n\n\nI've seen cashiers fired for being $20 short\n\nI've seen bartenders get fired for being $20 over.",
">\n\nDoes this mean they pour too generously?",
">\n\nIt can mean a bunch of things. The owner might think you made a mistake while ripping off the bar by bringing in your own bottle.",
">\n\nHow do you rip off the bar by bringing in your own bottle?"
] |
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When I was a waiter, I had this coworker who always made sure the drawer was even—if it was over, she’d pocket the cash, if she was under, she’d pay it out of her tips. The owner suspected her of shadiness because he’d found some missing receipts that showed her drawer should have been off, so he put an extra $13 in the drawer one night, and when it was even the next day, he fired her. I was only 17 at the time, and the above scheme you describe had never occurred to me until now, and the funny part is I’m a manager and know our policy is 100% to counsel and eventually fire our front desk employees when they’re under or over because mishandling cash is mishandling cash, or so I’d thought. Totally laughing at myself right now—I’m still so naïve! | [
"Has he checked the pockets of his other coat?",
">\n\nOr his nose?",
">\n\nThat would be my guess as to where it all went…\nUp Donny Jr’s nose & his wife’s.\nThose two can’t hide their Nose Candy fixation any longer.",
">\n\nThis kinda seems like a lot of money even for that particular habit, but I don't really know enough about it to really dispute this so I'm gonna have to go along with this theory.",
">\n\nThat amount is an entire cartel shipment that expects to lose 25% on the crossing. It's not personal use....would probably kill an entire midwestern city. Figure that there was an implied /s on your post, but as much as I dislike Donnie Jr., this is a big push to place on nose candy.",
">\n\nIf you’re a cashier and your drawer is $100 short, you’re likely fired and could be going to jail. When $240,000,000 goes missing everyone just shrugs. What a world.",
">\n\nI've seen cashiers fired for being $20 short before and I've seen cashiers have to put their own money in the drawer to make it even at the end of a shift. It's crazy how micromanaged poor people are and rich people and the government can fail audit after audit and nothing happens.",
">\n\n\nI've seen cashiers fired for being $20 short\n\nI've seen bartenders get fired for being $20 over.",
">\n\nDoes this mean they pour too generously?",
">\n\nIt can mean a bunch of things. The owner might think you made a mistake while ripping off the bar by bringing in your own bottle.",
">\n\nHow do you rip off the bar by bringing in your own bottle?",
">\n\nSomeone orders a rum and coke. You charge them the full price but punch in a coke on the till. You use your bottle for the rum so the customer doesn't know. 40oz bottle= 40 drinks. Minus the difference between 40 cokes. You pocket the cash from the till. The bar does the count at the end of the shift and there's no shortage. Tale as old as time."
] |
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It would not surprise me in the least if we somehow learn that Trump has been in hock to Russian oligarchs, international banks and sovereign wealth funds that bailed him out from his multiple bankruptcies and he still owes them hundreds of millions. And that all of his grift for the past 20 years has gone primarily to just paying the interest on these debts. | [
"Has he checked the pockets of his other coat?",
">\n\nOr his nose?",
">\n\nThat would be my guess as to where it all went…\nUp Donny Jr’s nose & his wife’s.\nThose two can’t hide their Nose Candy fixation any longer.",
">\n\nThis kinda seems like a lot of money even for that particular habit, but I don't really know enough about it to really dispute this so I'm gonna have to go along with this theory.",
">\n\nThat amount is an entire cartel shipment that expects to lose 25% on the crossing. It's not personal use....would probably kill an entire midwestern city. Figure that there was an implied /s on your post, but as much as I dislike Donnie Jr., this is a big push to place on nose candy.",
">\n\nIf you’re a cashier and your drawer is $100 short, you’re likely fired and could be going to jail. When $240,000,000 goes missing everyone just shrugs. What a world.",
">\n\nI've seen cashiers fired for being $20 short before and I've seen cashiers have to put their own money in the drawer to make it even at the end of a shift. It's crazy how micromanaged poor people are and rich people and the government can fail audit after audit and nothing happens.",
">\n\n\nI've seen cashiers fired for being $20 short\n\nI've seen bartenders get fired for being $20 over.",
">\n\nDoes this mean they pour too generously?",
">\n\nIt can mean a bunch of things. The owner might think you made a mistake while ripping off the bar by bringing in your own bottle.",
">\n\nHow do you rip off the bar by bringing in your own bottle?",
">\n\nSomeone orders a rum and coke. You charge them the full price but punch in a coke on the till. You use your bottle for the rum so the customer doesn't know. 40oz bottle= 40 drinks. Minus the difference between 40 cokes. You pocket the cash from the till. The bar does the count at the end of the shift and there's no shortage. Tale as old as time.",
">\n\nWhen I was a waiter, I had this coworker who always made sure the drawer was even—if it was over, she’d pocket the cash, if she was under, she’d pay it out of her tips. The owner suspected her of shadiness because he’d found some missing receipts that showed her drawer should have been off, so he put an extra $13 in the drawer one night, and when it was even the next day, he fired her. I was only 17 at the time, and the above scheme you describe had never occurred to me until now, and the funny part is I’m a manager and know our policy is 100% to counsel and eventually fire our front desk employees when they’re under or over because mishandling cash is mishandling cash, or so I’d thought. Totally laughing at myself right now—I’m still so naïve!"
] |
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“We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”
Eric Trump in 2014
“In terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. Say, in Dubai, and certainly with our project in SoHo, and anywhere in New York. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia."
Donald Trump Jr in 2008 | [
"Has he checked the pockets of his other coat?",
">\n\nOr his nose?",
">\n\nThat would be my guess as to where it all went…\nUp Donny Jr’s nose & his wife’s.\nThose two can’t hide their Nose Candy fixation any longer.",
">\n\nThis kinda seems like a lot of money even for that particular habit, but I don't really know enough about it to really dispute this so I'm gonna have to go along with this theory.",
">\n\nThat amount is an entire cartel shipment that expects to lose 25% on the crossing. It's not personal use....would probably kill an entire midwestern city. Figure that there was an implied /s on your post, but as much as I dislike Donnie Jr., this is a big push to place on nose candy.",
">\n\nIf you’re a cashier and your drawer is $100 short, you’re likely fired and could be going to jail. When $240,000,000 goes missing everyone just shrugs. What a world.",
">\n\nI've seen cashiers fired for being $20 short before and I've seen cashiers have to put their own money in the drawer to make it even at the end of a shift. It's crazy how micromanaged poor people are and rich people and the government can fail audit after audit and nothing happens.",
">\n\n\nI've seen cashiers fired for being $20 short\n\nI've seen bartenders get fired for being $20 over.",
">\n\nDoes this mean they pour too generously?",
">\n\nIt can mean a bunch of things. The owner might think you made a mistake while ripping off the bar by bringing in your own bottle.",
">\n\nHow do you rip off the bar by bringing in your own bottle?",
">\n\nSomeone orders a rum and coke. You charge them the full price but punch in a coke on the till. You use your bottle for the rum so the customer doesn't know. 40oz bottle= 40 drinks. Minus the difference between 40 cokes. You pocket the cash from the till. The bar does the count at the end of the shift and there's no shortage. Tale as old as time.",
">\n\nWhen I was a waiter, I had this coworker who always made sure the drawer was even—if it was over, she’d pocket the cash, if she was under, she’d pay it out of her tips. The owner suspected her of shadiness because he’d found some missing receipts that showed her drawer should have been off, so he put an extra $13 in the drawer one night, and when it was even the next day, he fired her. I was only 17 at the time, and the above scheme you describe had never occurred to me until now, and the funny part is I’m a manager and know our policy is 100% to counsel and eventually fire our front desk employees when they’re under or over because mishandling cash is mishandling cash, or so I’d thought. Totally laughing at myself right now—I’m still so naïve!",
">\n\nIt would not surprise me in the least if we somehow learn that Trump has been in hock to Russian oligarchs, international banks and sovereign wealth funds that bailed him out from his multiple bankruptcies and he still owes them hundreds of millions. And that all of his grift for the past 20 years has gone primarily to just paying the interest on these debts."
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Was briefly very confused by this comment, as I thought you attributed the second quote to Donald Trump, not Jr. And I thought there's no way that he would successfully string together the words "disproportionate cross-section". | [
"Has he checked the pockets of his other coat?",
">\n\nOr his nose?",
">\n\nThat would be my guess as to where it all went…\nUp Donny Jr’s nose & his wife’s.\nThose two can’t hide their Nose Candy fixation any longer.",
">\n\nThis kinda seems like a lot of money even for that particular habit, but I don't really know enough about it to really dispute this so I'm gonna have to go along with this theory.",
">\n\nThat amount is an entire cartel shipment that expects to lose 25% on the crossing. It's not personal use....would probably kill an entire midwestern city. Figure that there was an implied /s on your post, but as much as I dislike Donnie Jr., this is a big push to place on nose candy.",
">\n\nIf you’re a cashier and your drawer is $100 short, you’re likely fired and could be going to jail. When $240,000,000 goes missing everyone just shrugs. What a world.",
">\n\nI've seen cashiers fired for being $20 short before and I've seen cashiers have to put their own money in the drawer to make it even at the end of a shift. It's crazy how micromanaged poor people are and rich people and the government can fail audit after audit and nothing happens.",
">\n\n\nI've seen cashiers fired for being $20 short\n\nI've seen bartenders get fired for being $20 over.",
">\n\nDoes this mean they pour too generously?",
">\n\nIt can mean a bunch of things. The owner might think you made a mistake while ripping off the bar by bringing in your own bottle.",
">\n\nHow do you rip off the bar by bringing in your own bottle?",
">\n\nSomeone orders a rum and coke. You charge them the full price but punch in a coke on the till. You use your bottle for the rum so the customer doesn't know. 40oz bottle= 40 drinks. Minus the difference between 40 cokes. You pocket the cash from the till. The bar does the count at the end of the shift and there's no shortage. Tale as old as time.",
">\n\nWhen I was a waiter, I had this coworker who always made sure the drawer was even—if it was over, she’d pocket the cash, if she was under, she’d pay it out of her tips. The owner suspected her of shadiness because he’d found some missing receipts that showed her drawer should have been off, so he put an extra $13 in the drawer one night, and when it was even the next day, he fired her. I was only 17 at the time, and the above scheme you describe had never occurred to me until now, and the funny part is I’m a manager and know our policy is 100% to counsel and eventually fire our front desk employees when they’re under or over because mishandling cash is mishandling cash, or so I’d thought. Totally laughing at myself right now—I’m still so naïve!",
">\n\nIt would not surprise me in the least if we somehow learn that Trump has been in hock to Russian oligarchs, international banks and sovereign wealth funds that bailed him out from his multiple bankruptcies and he still owes them hundreds of millions. And that all of his grift for the past 20 years has gone primarily to just paying the interest on these debts.",
">\n\n“We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”\n\nEric Trump in 2014\n\n“In terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. Say, in Dubai, and certainly with our project in SoHo, and anywhere in New York. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.\"\n\nDonald Trump Jr in 2008"
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